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Series Code: LTBW
Program Code: LTBW000012A
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00:35 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim and welcome to Live to be Well.
00:39 When you think about compromising, 00:41 you have to think about, 00:43 "Am I going to go to the left, to the right... 00:46 or stay in the middle. " 00:47 Even God says in His Holy Word, 00:50 "If you cannot make a decision, you can't just go to the left, 00:55 you can't go to the right, 00:56 He will spew you out of His mouth... " 00:58 you have to make a decision. 00:59 So, today we're going to talk about: Refusing to Compromise. 01:02 I have a special guest, 01:04 I've known her since she was a baby 01:07 and she is just now turning 18 recently 01:10 her name is: Ms. Eden Harrison 01:13 and I want to welcome her on: Live to be Well. 01:16 Eden: Thank you. 01:18 Kim: Hello Precious. Eden: Hi 01:19 Kim: I'm so excited. Eden: I'm glad to be here. 01:22 Kim: Oh my goodness, 01:23 I was so excited to get your phone call 01:25 when we were doing that assignment for your class 01:28 and we're going to talk about that a little bit later, 01:30 all right. Eden: Okay, great. 01:31 Kim: Well, let's talk about Eden I love the name, Eden... 01:33 Thank you. 01:35 And your sister's name is, Eve and Eden... I love it, all right 01:39 but Eden, you're a Seventh-day Adventist. 01:41 Yes. 01:42 And you were born in a nuclear family, mom and dad... 01:46 and I've known you all your life, 01:49 even when you were in your mother's womb... at church 01:51 so let's talk about you... your life growing up 01:54 in the Seventh-day Adventist Church... 01:57 a Seventh-day Adventist home 01:59 and yet you went to 02:01 private public school 02:03 and what were some of the challenges you had 02:06 growing up in your formative years... into high school 02:10 and then we'll talk about college. 02:12 Well, the biggest challenge I would say in high school was 02:15 my high school Detroit Country Day 02:17 they were sports based 02:20 so there were a lot of sports that you were required to play 02:23 so part of the biggest feeling I had of feeling left... 02:27 like, the biggest feeling of being left out 02:29 was when I couldn't do things on Saturdays 02:31 because a lot of the... I was good at sports 02:33 but a lot of the big tournaments 02:35 and big Track Meets were on Saturdays 02:38 and the coaches were always... 02:39 they couldn't discriminate based off of religion 02:43 but they would always be like, 02:44 "Oh well, she can't do this so don't even put her in these" 02:46 certain... 02:47 or the certain activities 02:50 that they would do for the people 02:52 who could go to those bigger things 02:54 so, that was the biggest feeling I had of being left out 02:56 that and like, not taking the ACT on Saturdays. 02:59 Okay, did you have any resentment at that point 03:01 being Adventist... that you couldn't participate? 03:04 It was annoying but it was just... 03:06 it was just... that's just what it was. 03:08 Okay, it is what it is... and your parents stood by that. 03:11 Yes. 03:12 And they would not allow... did you ever ask your mom and dad 03:14 "Can I do this... can I do that?" 03:16 No... 03:17 Because you knew that the... 03:19 the foundation of your family... your home, all right. 03:22 Now, let's talk about you 03:24 and where you are in your life right now, 03:27 you are the youngest... and are you spoiled? 03:30 A little... just a little. 03:32 How did you choose to attend Spelman... 03:37 Spelman College in Atlanta... so far from home, 03:41 you know. 03:43 Really... I did not even truly know about Spelman 03:48 until my Senior year. 03:50 I... the school I went to 03:52 really just damaged my thoughts on HBCUs 03:56 because it made me feel like HBCUs weren't good enough. 03:58 Historically Black Colleges... hmmm... 04:00 Yes, Historical Black Colleges and... 04:03 through that, I thought was going to... 04:06 I applied to University of Michigan... 04:07 University of Rochester, New York, 04:09 I wanted to go to all these big schools 04:11 but then my College Counselor was like, 04:12 why don't you think about this school... 04:14 I was like, "Uh... " but then, I didn't really get into UOM 04:17 so I had to look at my back-up options 04:19 and I had applied to Spelman 04:21 and I just said... I just prayed about it for a long time 04:24 and then God was... it just... it just... 04:26 the decision made sense all of a sudden 04:28 so I decided to go there and I have no regrets, I love it. 04:32 Did you apply to Oakwood or Andrews? 04:34 No. 04:35 Okay, why didn't you apply to a Seventh-day Adventist School? 04:37 I don't know, 04:38 it just didn't necessarily feel like the path for me 04:42 I do believe it is the path for anybody 04:44 but I do pray... I just pray a lot about every decision I make 04:47 and the decision just felt like Spelman. 04:49 Kim: Okay. Eden: Yeah. 04:51 Kim: So, how was the adjustment, being at home... 04:53 living at home and now you're there, 04:56 you had a roommate in college? 04:57 Yes. 04:59 All right, and did you know her before going to Spelman? 05:01 No, not at all. 05:02 All right, so, did you all get along well? 05:04 She is one of my best friends. 05:05 Kim: That's wonderful, all right Eden: Yes, I love her. 05:07 Kim: Now, what's your major? Eden: Psychology. 05:09 Kim: All right, so you want to be a Clinical Psychologist, 05:11 School Psychologist... what do you want to do? 05:13 I'm thinking of Clinical Psychology 05:15 but most of all, I like to follow my mother's footsteps 05:18 in her Company 05:19 and take over the Company 05:21 and hopefully work with people in this community 05:23 better the community around us. 05:25 All right, all right, 05:26 so I could look for you coming back home, maybe. 05:28 All right, or she might do a satellite 05:30 in another city, all right. 05:32 Hopefully... yes. 05:33 Hopefully, so, being there and being a Seventh-day Adventist 05:37 all right, what have the challenges been 05:39 being on a college campus 05:41 and have all these things going on 05:43 and more houses right across the way 05:45 all right, 05:46 so, how do you handle that, 05:48 how do you adjust to all of that? 05:49 Ah, well, there are... 05:52 they do a lot of stuff on Saturdays... obviously, 05:55 Saturday is the big day to do everything 05:58 so there are a lot of things I do miss out on 06:00 but I just... take it as... 06:02 well, there's an awful lot of Seventh-day Adventist in Atlanta 06:04 Okay... okay and they do attend Spelman? 06:07 Yes, Spelman, Morehouse and Clark... 06:10 so, we have a group chat where get together sometimes 06:13 we'll go to church... we'll carpool 06:15 or Uber... pool... 06:18 and do stuff like that 06:20 but, really, I just have to think to myself 06:22 "This is the day of rest... " 06:23 and just designate that day to myself 06:25 and remember, I'm not missing out 06:27 because I'm resting, so, it feels good. 06:30 It feels good... doesn't it feel great 06:32 when that Friday evening comes... approaches 06:36 and, I remember hearing Pastor Carlton Byrd say, 06:41 he was... they kept 26 hours... 06:43 an hour before... an hour after... 06:45 and but... it's just great not to do anything just to rest 06:50 I don't even take my mail out of the mailbox 06:51 until maybe Sunday... Eden: Right. 06:53 Because what can I do with it? Eden: Nothing. 06:55 So, why do I even want to open it? 06:57 Let's talk about friendships... relationships... all right. 07:00 What do you think is a good age for a young lady 07:04 or a young man your age to start dating? 07:06 Phew... 07:08 Kim: I'd say 30 okay. 07:10 Eden: I would... I'm not going to disagree, 07:14 I'm not going to... 07:15 if it were me and I were a parent with children, 07:17 I would tell my children to not date... 07:19 if they were like, 16... high school age... 07:21 but I do believe genuinely 07:24 that nobody right now is mature enough, 07:26 I've talked to my parents about this all the time. 07:28 I just deal... just seeing how many people 07:31 just don't know what they're doing 07:33 and are just in relationships to be in relationships, 07:35 I just don't think people are ready. 07:37 So, what do you do when a young... 07:38 you're so pretty... kind... 07:40 Eden: Thank you. Kim: Welcome, yes you are. 07:41 So what do you do when a young man approaches you 07:44 you know he's interested, what do you do? 07:46 If I'm interested, I'll still talk to him 07:48 and maybe we'll like, I don't know... date... 07:52 sure, but 07:53 I know I'm really focused on what I want to get done 07:57 and if you're not trying to... 07:59 if you're not going to further me in that department 08:02 or help me further that goal 08:05 then, I just don't feel like, 08:07 like, I don't feel like it's necessary 08:09 for them to be part of my life. 08:10 Right... going any further with that. 08:12 Because you're interested in going to Grad School... 08:14 Ph. D. all of that... so... Eden: Yes. 08:15 Kim: We're talking about serious focus, all right. 08:18 Now, knowing your parents and how focused they are 08:21 and I got to tell you a little story 08:23 I don't know if you know this story about your dad, all right, 08:26 I say it all the time but I'm going to let you know. 08:28 He was my Sabbath School Teacher. 08:31 Wow! 08:32 And I would rush to church and get in his class 08:37 because his class was really full 08:38 and I wanted to be right there like, okay... 08:41 and to have a teacher that knows the lesson... knows the Bible 08:45 made it fun, all right... 08:47 he gave us candy too, all right, 08:49 but... so, it was just a real connection for me 08:54 to have a Sabbath School Teacher 08:57 who loved the Lord and being a young person 09:00 I mean, here he is, your father was young 09:03 in his 20s... you're teaching Sabbath School, 09:05 you could be doing something else 09:07 but he loved us and he wanted us to stay in the church 09:10 he wanted us to be a part of the church. 09:11 What is keeping you connected? 09:14 Because we're talking about refusing to compromise 09:17 what's keeping you connected... not to just church 09:20 but to your Lord and Savior. 09:21 I think it's just the genuine fact 09:26 that I do really want to have a relationship with the Lord, 09:30 I try... or when you get... 09:32 there's a thing that happens to me... 09:34 sometimes I will get off chat... like, I'll be in school 09:38 and I'll just be doing something... 09:39 all of a sudden, like, I feel tired... 09:40 I'm irritated... I'm mad... 09:42 I'm just like, "Well, this is because I'm not 09:44 doing my studying... praying enough" 09:47 and it's just realizing how my life feels 09:50 without the Lord in it 09:51 makes me realize how much I need the Lord in my life 09:55 and I feel a constant spiritual warfare, 09:57 like, all the time just trying to make decisions, 10:01 is this right... is this wrong? 10:02 But I really just try to tell myself that this is... 10:05 a relationship and I... I'm going to mess up 10:09 but this is someone who forgives me for whatever I do 10:14 so, it's just... I can relax and love Him. 10:17 Do you believe that this is the message 10:20 that God has given his people, 10:21 the Seventh-day Adventist message, 10:22 the Three Angels' message? Eden: Yes. 10:24 Kim: Yes, and He's coming to get us, 10:26 do you believe He's coming again? 10:27 Definitely. 10:28 And the signs that we see today, you know, 10:30 um, so what about music? 10:33 All right, being a Seventh-day Adventist, 10:35 we had all kinds of music, 10:36 when I was growing up we had all kinds of music 10:38 but we didn't have the videos, 10:39 we didn't have all of the things that were pulling us in 10:43 to that... I like what you said, spiritual warfare... 10:46 every day we're in the spiritual warfare 10:48 so, how... what do you listen to, 10:51 do you listen to just gospel, 10:52 do you listen to jazz... what do you listen to? 10:55 I like to listen to R and B like, 2000 R and B. 10:59 Is that a group? 11:01 No, R and B from like from the early 2000s. 11:07 Okay. 11:08 And maybe like a few obscure artistes here and there 11:12 but I don't really like to listen to ruach music... 11:15 it makes me like, cringe. 11:16 Okay, so you don't do Hip Hop? 11:18 No really, I do appreciate people who are talented in Rap 11:21 but it's just not something I'm interested in. 11:23 What about the "Spoken Word" 11:24 I like that when they do that snap, snap, Spoken Word. 11:27 Have you ever seen that live? 11:29 Yes, I like Spoken Word but it gets kind of... 11:31 repetitive... people talk about the same things over and over, 11:35 I do really like poetry, though, but I feel like that's a loss, 11:38 people have been more drawn toward Spoken Word 11:42 and they lose like, literary devices 11:45 and all the cool things that make poetry so nice to read. 11:48 When I was student at Oakwood 11:50 and I remember they were having a guest speaker 11:54 at Alabama A and M 11:56 and they allowed us to go and visit, 11:57 they came over to our campus 11:59 and I was a Co-Op Student there... 12:01 because I was in the Speech Pathology Program 12:02 and they didn't have the Program at Oakwood 12:05 so they worked it out for us to go there 12:06 and their Theology Majors 12:08 or someone could come over to Oakwood 12:10 well, a woman there by the name of Nikki Giovanni was there 12:16 you ever heard of her? 12:17 I've heard the name. 12:18 Yes, black poet... 12:20 and she said something, 12:22 "They can take your money, take your house, 12:26 they can even injure your body 12:28 but once you put it in your mind it's there to stay. " 12:32 Hmmm... 12:34 So, as you're gaining the Word of God, 12:36 like you were saying, you felt... you were irritable 12:38 something was missing, you know, 12:40 and you knew it was the connection to Christ 12:42 and once you put it there... and the Bible even says, 12:45 "If you put it there" 12:46 He says, "I'll bring all things back to your remembrance" 12:48 so when you're sitting in that class, 12:50 before you take that test, I would pray before every test. 12:54 I do, definitely, every test... 12:57 it's become a habit since high school. 12:59 Yes, because already knows the outcome 13:02 so take me with you 13:03 and then, having that time in prayer. 13:06 Now, when you would pray and study 13:08 was your roommate a Christian? 13:10 Yes, she is. 13:11 Okay, so... and you said 13:13 there was a collective body on the campus 13:14 that you would get together with 13:16 and you would have other Seventh-day Adventists 13:17 or other Christians, you know, 13:19 I believe that it's important to have that support, 13:22 you know, how often did you call home? 13:26 I called my mom probably too often, 13:30 I call her all the time, that's my best friend, 13:32 I called my dad too to check in on them 13:35 I just like to talk to them, that makes it... 13:38 it's not necessarily hard to from home 13:40 but that's what it okay to be away from home 13:43 because I can still talk to them but I still have my own freedom. 13:45 You have your own freedom. Eden: Yes. 13:47 Kim: So you're going to return back to Spelman, 13:48 you're going to finish out your years there? 13:50 Eden: Yes. Kim: That's good, that's good 13:51 because you know when you start moving and switching, 13:55 you lose credits... lot of time and it's very expensive. 13:57 Yes. 13:59 Okay, so, when you come home, what is it like? 14:02 I know they're happy to see you, you're happy to see your sister 14:05 and your sister... if I can deviate just for a minute, 14:08 just graduated from Wayne State in Mortuary Science. 14:11 I'm so proud of her. 14:13 I am proud of her also, you know, 14:15 she looks like a Mortician, 14:17 I saw her on Sabbath and I said, "Okay" 14:20 and he said, "Well, what does a Mortician look like?" 14:22 you know, stately, reserved... 14:24 doesn't she have that? Eden: Yes. 14:25 Kim: And... I mean I don't have any fear of the dead 14:28 you know, 14:30 and she... she seems like she's going to do very well 14:32 and she's excited about it. 14:34 Absolutely, I think it is the... 14:35 you say, you don't want to say 14:37 this is the perfect profession for somebody 14:39 but Eve is made for that... 14:41 she handles it well, she's just so... 14:43 I just love her, I don't know, 14:45 I just love her, she's so good in handling the job 14:47 and she has such a passion for it 14:49 I'm just so glad that Eve found something that she loves 14:53 because not everybody does that. 14:54 Oh no, that's not everybody's calling, baby, 14:57 all right, okay, "You handle that, 14:59 all right, I'll call you, can you take care of that?" 15:02 So, what's your relationship like with your sister? 15:05 My sister and I have grown to be close, 15:07 when we were younger we weren't that close 15:10 but that's because we... 15:12 we have a bit of an age gap. 15:13 What's the age gap? Eden: Eight years. 15:15 Kim: Eight years! Okay, so that was like 15:17 Micha and Erin have 18 years... 15:19 so you all have eight years, okay. 15:21 But now we're really close, we laugh too much 15:25 you could ask our parents... 15:27 they'll... don't get us started laughing because it is just... 15:31 I love her. 15:32 So, there's something else about you, 15:35 now, I know mom sings beautifully 15:38 does dad sing? 15:39 Oh oh... 15:41 Dad sings with us, we have our little... 15:44 we'll go to visit my grandpa sometimes, 15:46 we'll all sing to him, listen to some music 15:49 that's all. 15:50 All right, now, dad was phenomenal... art and... 15:53 he was an artist, now, did you have that gift also, 15:56 do you draw and... artistic? 15:58 I do, I do like to paint, 15:59 I really like to paint 16:01 my senior year in high school I was a part of the 16:04 Fine Arts Conservatory 16:06 which is where a few of the Art students are chosen 16:10 and they are assigned to complete 16:14 a whole bunch of pieces according to a subject matter 16:20 that they wanted to do 16:22 and I chose to do "Black Woman" 16:24 because nobody in the school was doing it 16:25 and even though they really didn't get a lot of attention 16:29 from the people who were trying to buy paintings, 16:31 which they did try to buy the paintings 16:32 but I didn't... I also didn't want to sell them 16:34 because they were so valuable 16:35 but I feel like it got a message across to people 16:38 had all these big beautiful paintings of black women 16:41 all across the school, 16:42 it was just something they had never seen before 16:44 it was... 16:46 Now, you took a major risk to do that. 16:47 Eden: Yes. Kim: Definitely. 16:48 Eden: I took a lot of risks at that school, yes. 16:51 Kim: So, do you sing at Spelman? Eden: No. 16:54 Kim: Are in the choir... do they know you can sing? 16:56 Eden: A few people know that I can sing 16:59 and when they do find out, 17:00 they ask me why I didn't do the "Glee Club" 17:04 but the Glee Club has a lot of like, needs... 17:07 they ask for a lot from the students 17:08 so, I just... 17:10 I'm just trying to focus on getting my degree right now. 17:12 Okay, so you enjoy singing with your mom? 17:15 I love singing with her, yes. 17:17 All right, I see something coming... developing... 17:20 let's talk about health, 17:22 I remember sitting down with your mother and father 17:25 and truly were my inspiration years ago 17:29 becoming a vegan now, 17:31 yes, I've been a vegan 15 months. 17:34 And the Lord is so good, I didn't do it for weight loss, 17:38 you know, I've lost a lot of weight 17:40 but I feel better, I'm healthier... 17:41 I sleep better, a lot of things have happened in my life 17:46 but I do know I don't have all that weight 17:50 and your mother was educating us 17:51 and there were times when she would come 17:54 and do programs... people wouldn't listen... 17:56 you know, and it gets frustrating 17:59 so, are you... where are you with your... 18:01 your diet and your health, did you work out... 18:04 exercise.. where are you with that? 18:06 I am vegan... 18:08 Yes! Oh... oh.. Jason Bradley... give me another one... 18:12 For the most part 18:16 because sometimes at school it gets complicated 18:18 but I... I'm very vegan at school actually. 18:20 Okay, what do you eat at school? 18:22 Oh, just whatever I can get because it's hard sit down there 18:26 but a basic meal, I guess... a basic like lunch would be 18:29 a sweet potato, some garbanzo beans... 18:31 I'll ask them to like, sauté them up 18:33 with some spinach and onions, 18:35 right, I try to figure out... some rice... 18:37 I like that... 18:38 Another salad... everybody is like, 18:40 "What are you eating?" You know, 18:41 but it's to me and it gets the job done. 18:42 Kim: Yeah. Eden: Yes. 18:44 Okay and gets the job done. 18:45 And I definitely do workouts, Spelman just got a new gym 18:48 they had it before, I think, I came 18:50 and I'm always in there, 18:52 I just feel like I have to... 18:53 since I had to do all those sports in high school, 18:55 if I don't work out, it just doesn't feel right anymore. 18:58 I didn't know that you played sports... I didn't know that. 19:02 So, did you bowl, roller skate, archery, swim, track... 19:05 what did you do? 19:06 I was a cheerleader and I also ran track. 19:09 I can see that, I can see the track... 19:11 all right, but I never knew that. 19:14 So, all right, now, looking at your whole life 19:18 and the direction of your life, 19:20 you know, do you enjoy, now that you've been in Atlanta, 19:22 I know that you travel... do you enjoy traveling? 19:24 Yes, I do. 19:25 Have you been abroad? 19:27 When I was smaller, but not... 19:30 you know, just like a cruise here and there 19:33 to the Bahamas but I really, really would like 19:36 to go to France because that's my Minor. 19:38 Oh... 19:39 And when I was in high school 19:41 I had a French Exchange Student stay with us 19:43 for like a week or two... 19:45 and just... I was so fascinated, 19:47 I've been taking French since Sixth Grade 19:49 I'm very fascinated by it. 19:50 Really, bonjour... bonjour en Francais 19:53 Oh look at... give me something... 19:56 I'm being a little bit worldwide here, 19:58 you know, a little Spanish, 20:00 a little French, Sign language 20:01 yes, I took French four years in High School. 20:03 Wow! 20:04 Yes and I was able to go... to... I didn't get to France 20:07 I got over to Quebec, 20:08 that's where we went for our Senior Trip 20:10 and then... but I finally made it over to Europe 20:13 many, many years later, you know, 20:16 but it was good to know the language 20:17 and I was able to talk and shop 20:19 and I was able to translate for my husband 20:22 and he said, "You think you're grown" 20:24 I said, "I know I'm grown" all right, 20:25 you children should have taken French, all right, 20:28 and it's such a romantic language 20:31 you know, Spanish is beautiful too 20:33 but there's something about Francais 20:35 yes, "Formidable" 20:38 for those that don't know what that means, 20:39 Fantastic... 20:41 Formidable... 20:42 okay... so... being able to look at your life, 20:47 in the direction... 20:48 is Eden guiding that life or is God guiding that life? 20:52 Definitely God... because I know I could not do it by myself. 20:55 Hmmm... 20:57 And you still ask for your parents input and suggestion... 21:00 you know, now, one day you called me... 21:03 you were in a class, taking a class... 21:06 and you had to interview a Psychologist 21:08 and different things came out of that 21:11 and it was so eye-opening 21:13 for what you were doing at school 21:15 and we talked even before you left for school 21:19 and being able to help, I think, more than anything, 21:24 I was just honored that you sought me out 21:28 and I could help 21:29 and we talked about prayer, remember. 21:31 Yes. 21:32 We talked about your walk with Christ, 21:34 we prayed together. 21:35 Yes we did. 21:36 And you said you got an "A" on that paper... 21:39 you got an "A" on the Class? 21:40 I did... on the project... 21:41 Yes, yes, yeah... 21:43 and so, how many credits did you carry that semester? 21:47 I mean, the whole year, did you do 12, 14, 16? 21:51 I think the First Semester, I did 16 Credits. 21:55 Really? Your Freshman year? 21:56 I think they're counted differently at Spelman. 21:58 Oh Really? Are you on a Quarter System 21:59 or it's Semester? 22:01 I'm... oh, Semester System 22:02 but I'm not... but, because our Credits 22:06 compared to other people I think, 22:07 are like, counted differently. Kim: Oh really? 22:09 Eden: But, yeah, I took 16 in my First Semester 22:12 and I think 17 this Semester, this Semester... I just passed. 22:17 Kim: Okay, all right. Eden: Yes. 22:18 Kim: Are you in Summer School 22:20 or you're just taking it easy this summer? 22:21 Eden: I'm not taking it easy, I'm working for my mother. 22:24 Kim: Okay, you're not taking it easy. 22:26 Right... but no classes. 22:29 Okay, great, so church... 22:32 how do you stay connected 22:36 when you're not compromised with church? 22:39 Because sometimes... because our pastors change, 22:43 our officers change... the genre of music changes 22:48 our young people and it's not just our church 22:52 seems like they're disappearing, 22:53 what do you think is happening 22:55 in the Seventh-day Adventist Church with our young people? 22:58 I think it could be, perhaps... 23:01 I feel like it's a lot of things I mean, number 1 is 23:05 like a sign of the times, obviously, 23:07 but also, just the way the generations are changing 23:12 and the disconnect between the youth and the young people 23:14 and also, sometimes how conservative 23:16 feeling the church can... feel.. I guess 23:19 and a lot of people are turned off to that 23:22 and sometimes people want to hear, 23:25 like, they want to hear loud music 23:28 and want to be able to just feel more free 23:30 in the church service 23:32 yeah, feel the spirit... and sometimes 23:34 I mean, even I felt it in some churches 23:36 where you just feel like, 23:37 these people are trying to hold down 23:38 the good feeling... that you know you should just feel it 23:42 because the Lord is good 23:43 so, you should jump and scream about it. 23:45 Yes, one time we were having church downstairs 23:49 in City temple because our Sanctuary had fallen in 23:52 and they were doing all the repairs 23:54 so we were having church service downstairs 23:56 because we went to another church 23:58 but I think we were transitioning back in 24:00 but anyway, there was this pastor, 24:03 he was preaching and the music was high 24:07 and I could not keep still... I threw off my shoes 24:11 I think they came off... I don't know what happened to them 24:13 and I... and I keep over my shoes... 24:15 and I ran around that church... folk thought I had lost my mind 24:19 and Brother Nolan got a little scared, all right... 24:23 and I said to myself, 24:25 "If the world can kick their shoes off, 24:28 throw off everything 24:30 and run around for football, basketball, 24:33 a secular concert, 24:34 why can't we praise God?" 24:36 Because the Bible says, 24:38 "He inhabits those that praise Him. " 24:39 Yeah. 24:41 And I just don't believe heaven is going to be where... 24:42 Right, I don't... I don't either... 24:45 You don't say something, you don't say, "Amen" 24:47 you don't shout... 24:49 He did say, 24:50 "The praises go up... the blessings come down. " 24:52 He loves the praises, He loves... 24:55 I see God... if I could just picture in my own mind 24:59 oh, that's why... ego... Godly... 25:03 of divinity... 25:04 He says, "Thou shalt not have any other God's before me. " 25:07 He will not share His glory so, I can see, 25:10 "That's right, praise me I woke you up this morning. " 25:13 Yes. 25:15 "Started you on your way I... I am God of Israel... 25:18 I'm the same God yesterday, today and tomorrow... " 25:21 why not praise? 25:23 And I grew up in a church 25:25 where your father was my Sabbath School Teacher 25:27 that... even though it was conservative 25:31 but we were able to praise Him, you know, 25:34 we were able to... 25:36 well, I remember when we first clapped, 25:37 everybody was like... "Oooh, they're clapping" 25:39 and then we started, "Amen" 25:42 and then we started... you know, 25:43 because I remember I went to church with my father 25:46 and he was not a Seventh-day Adventist 25:48 and I came back to my church so, we were singing a hymn 25:52 and I turned to my mother, 25:53 "Oh, why can't we clap and shout and pray?" 25:56 My mama popped me... 25:57 "Girl, if you don't be quiet, 26:00 see, that's why I don't let you go to church with your father, 26:02 okay. " 26:04 But it gave me a different perspective 26:06 of praising my Lord and Savior 26:08 and so, when I'm home, 26:09 Jehovah-jireh... Jehovah-nissi... Jehovah-shalom, 26:13 He is my God... and I want to... I can't keep it to myself, 26:17 you know, 26:18 and I have even seen you cry in church, Eden, 26:21 you know, I've seen you doing Communion 26:25 and it just touched my soul 26:27 because to see a young person have that connection... 26:30 how do we pull back layers, as a future Psychologist... 26:34 how do you see that we need to address the layers 26:38 in families today... 26:40 people don't want to talk about their problems. 26:42 I know, I... 26:44 I don't necessarily know how we can attack that problem 26:48 because I'm dealing with it myself, 26:50 I just know that there are so many things 26:52 that can affect people to feel so many different ways 26:57 and it's hard to pinpoint them 26:59 but something my mom always tells me is, 27:01 "You have to talk about it to process it" 27:03 and I think that's what we have to tell these people 27:05 and there's a lot of times when people are... 27:07 don't even want to hear it but you have to process it 27:12 so you have to talk about it out loud, 27:14 you can't be uncomfortable... 27:15 you have to be comfortable with being uncomfortable. 27:17 Yes, oh, I like that, say that again. 27:19 We have to be comfortable with being uncomfortable, yes. 27:24 I like that, that's a book title. 27:25 Eden: Yes. Kim: I like that. 27:26 Eden: Yeah, that's what I used to tell everybody 27:28 in my old school, 27:29 and I had to always help those race talks 27:31 always have to be uncomfortable 27:32 talks almost... to talk about 27:34 but you have to say it out loud 27:35 if you want to start going towards resolution. 27:38 So, I think that's one of the biggest things 27:41 is just talking about it... processing it... 27:44 and let's see where we can go from there 27:46 once everybody's emotions are out on the table. 27:49 Put it out on the table... we love that domino effect 27:52 everything is going to fall down anyway 27:54 and my mom used to say, "If God knows... who cares 27:56 just... just put it out there. " 27:59 Well, Eden Harrison, I love you. 28:01 Eden: I love you. 28:02 Kim: I'm so proud, thank you sweetie pie 28:03 and I want you to continue to live to be well, 28:06 I look forward to seeing you in the Kingdom. 28:08 Kim: And I want you to look for me. 28:10 God bless you and to you... 28:12 we are going to refuse to compromise... 28:15 we will not compromise 28:16 because we are about the Kingdom of Heaven. 28:19 I'm Dr. Kim and I want to thank you 28:22 for being on Live to be Well. 28:24 God bless. |
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