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Series Code: LTBW
Program Code: LTBW000017A
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00:35 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim.
00:37 And welcome to Live to be Well. 00:39 I'm so excited to have a very special guest, 00:42 but not just a guest, my violin teacher. 00:46 Welcome Mrs. Candace Walls. 00:49 How are you today? Just wonderful. 00:51 I'm so glad to be here, Dr. Kim. 00:53 Well, listen, I want to thank you. 00:55 Well, let's talk about how long you've been playing the violin. 00:59 I've been playing the violin for over 50 years. 01:01 Really? 01:03 How did you get started playing? 01:04 My best friend started playing the violin in her school. 01:09 And I wanted to do everything that Cheryl did. 01:12 And so I asked my parents, "Can I play the violin?" 01:16 And they say, "Yes." 01:17 What grade was this? 01:19 Third grade. Third grade. 01:20 Third grade. 01:22 And you really took to it, you, 01:24 you know, was able to adapt to everything. 01:26 Was the learning process difficult for you? 01:28 Yes, it's always hard issue, you know, Dr. Kim, 01:32 to start learning to play the violin. 01:34 Yes. 01:35 Actually my friend Cheryl dropped out and I continued. 01:38 No way. 01:40 Because there was just something about it 01:42 that grabbed me. 01:44 Yes, yes. 01:45 And I wanted to play. So I continued. 01:48 Now you are Seventh-day Adventist. 01:51 You have served as minister of music at your church. 01:55 Your husband is also amazing musician 01:58 'cause he happens to be my organ teacher. 01:59 Yes, he is. My daughter's piano teacher. 02:04 What and how do you balance your music and your marriage 02:08 because you're both maestros? 02:12 Well, I think that both of us are musicians help a lot. 02:17 Because musicians understand one another 02:20 when you have to get away to practice. 02:22 When you have to go to rehearsals. 02:25 And we do a lot of music together. 02:27 Yes, you do. So that's a joy. 02:30 We spend a lot of time together doing music 02:32 and that actually strengthens our relationship. 02:36 I remember my first recital just before Arthur passed away, 02:41 he was too sick to come to the last one 02:42 when I had the organ recital. 02:45 But he was just amazed 02:47 how much Aaron and I learned in that short period of time 02:51 and how you have guided us. 02:53 Why do you sacrifice so much, 02:55 because we're talking about total sacrifice music therapy. 02:59 Why do you do this? 03:02 Actually, it started out as therapy for me. 03:07 I worked very hard. 03:10 I had a job with heavy responsibilities. 03:14 And music was an escape. 03:17 And since I was a church coworker 03:19 and love the Lord. 03:21 And my husband was doing music ministry in the church. 03:25 He encouraged me to start playing with him 03:30 and for church. 03:32 And I really wasn't ready to do that but he pushed me, 03:36 he was almost like a Svengali. 03:39 And I started playing with him. 03:43 When he was asked to play, he would say, 03:45 "Come and play a violin with me." 03:47 Or "Come and play the flute with me." 03:48 You play the flute also? Yes. 03:50 And I also... What do you play? 03:52 What other instruments do you play? 03:55 Violin, viola, flute 03:59 and English handbell. 04:01 Oh, my goodness. 04:02 I love playing English handbells, 04:04 that's most therapeutic for me. 04:06 Is that different to English handbells and chimes or... 04:09 It's a little different. What's that difference? 04:11 The chimes are the precursor to the handbells. 04:15 The handbells actually look like gold bells. 04:20 And a lot of people have seen bell choirs before, 04:24 and we're blessed to have one at our church. 04:26 And one at our schools. Yes. 04:29 And that's therapy for me. 04:32 I understand how music is therapeutic for others 04:37 because it's always been therapeutic for me. 04:39 As we're gonna ever suggested that you learn piano organ. 04:43 Actually, I played piano. Do you? 04:45 I've played for years. I didn't know that. 04:48 I played piano before I played violin. 04:51 And became very professional at it. 04:53 Really? 04:55 But why do I need to play piano 04:57 when I have Amos Walls. 04:58 Now this is the truth 'cause he is the best. 05:00 I don't need to play. 05:02 I remember when I called him and said, 05:04 "Is it any way possible 05:05 that you could take my daughter and I on as students?" 05:08 Even Arthur wanted to take lessons. 05:10 And when he said yes, I was so excited 05:13 because he is just a genius and so understanding. 05:18 I remember I wanted to back out of my organ recital. 05:21 Oh, no you're gonna do this and it's like, 05:23 how do you manage the keys, 05:25 the pedals, hitting chords 05:27 and, you know, and you won't allow me to look at music. 05:30 I mean, you won't allow me look at the instrument, 05:33 you used to look at the music. 05:35 Why is that? 05:36 That is so that your body can be trained to coordinate 05:42 between your eye what you sing on the music, 05:45 and your two hands 05:47 as you're doing two different things as you play. 05:51 If you look at the instrument, you lose focus on the music, 05:58 and also you become too focused on what you're doing 06:00 and that can throw you off. 06:02 I want you to feel the music. 06:04 Feel the music. Feel the body move from it. 06:08 Do it by touch and feel and ear and not by sight. 06:13 It's kind of like faith. 06:14 That is my faith 'cause... 06:15 We play by faith but not by sight. 06:18 But the violin is so intimidating 06:19 because all that beautiful music 06:23 can come out of those four strings. 06:24 You know, piano has all the keys 06:26 and the organs and the pedals has all of that 06:29 but the violin has four strings. 06:30 And it was amazing when I learned my first, my G, 06:35 and then I learned my D and my F. 06:37 And my, no, not my F but my A, I don't like that A and E 06:41 'cause it's over there and over the sharp 06:44 and you got to hit it and it will squeak 06:46 but you're always stays in the positioning. 06:49 I think that many times I've been at home by myself 06:55 and I would go and get my violin, 06:57 I didn't know where I was going to play. 07:00 Sometimes I just held it and cried because it helped me. 07:04 It is healing, all music is healing. 07:07 That's right. 07:08 And it gave me a sense of peace, 07:11 it gave me a sense of warmth. 07:13 And I love being able to go from the violin 07:16 to the piano to the organ, okay. 07:18 I'm like, you know, I mean, 07:20 and I may not be able to play a few songs 07:22 because I read music, I can't do by ear. 07:25 How do you... 07:26 How does one learn to play by ear, 07:28 'cause Aaron plays by ear? 07:31 Sometimes it's a talent, 07:32 sometimes you have to work at it. 07:34 Now I have to work at it because I'm a music reader. 07:38 And so I have to work at playing by ear 07:43 not because I can't do it 07:44 but because I depend on music so much. 07:47 And it's good for us as musicians 07:51 to stretch in that direction. 07:54 But, you know, Dr. Kim, when you're sad that you, 07:58 sometimes just held your violin and it's comforting. 08:03 I love music because I know its origin. 08:07 God created music. 08:08 God created it. 08:09 He created it for us. Yes. 08:12 And he created it as a vehicle by which we could praise Him 08:15 and give Him pleasure. 08:16 Yes. Oh, yes. 08:18 And once I learned that, 08:21 music became just totally different for me. 08:26 When you're young 08:28 and you're learning music, it's... 08:33 I want to play 08:34 because I want to impress my mother and father. 08:37 I want to play 08:39 because I want to play well for all those people 08:41 that are out there listening to me. 08:43 I want them to say that I'm good and I did well. 08:48 When I first learned music it was for me, 08:52 there was no spiritual meaning whatsoever in music. 08:57 But as I grew and the Lord showed me, 09:02 I created music. 09:05 It's a vehicle 09:07 by which you praise and worship Me. 09:12 It's a relationship we'll have... 09:14 Yes, it's a relationship. Together. 09:17 And that's why I teach. 09:22 And you give so much and you don't charge, 09:25 you don't charge us. 09:27 And I was just blown away 09:28 when I pulled out my checkbook and I said, "How much?" 09:31 And you said, "Nothing." 09:33 And I said, "Excuse me." I said, "It's Aaron and I." 09:35 You said, "Nothing." 09:37 And I was just, 09:38 until this day 09:39 you have never charged me for a lesson, 09:42 that's total sacrifice for the Lord. 09:45 Such a giving heart. 09:47 And then I remember the text I get, you said, 09:50 "We will hold your space as long as you need us to." 09:54 I looked at that text and I literally just cried 09:56 because I wanted to come back to my music 09:59 but I wasn't ready, I couldn't focus. 10:02 And I even pulled out my clarinet, 10:04 my mother got it for me in the sixth grade. 10:07 And I was playing my clarinet and I said, oh, my goodness, 10:11 I was doing the hymns 10:13 and I was, I couldn't do this again 10:16 'cause I didn't want to do anything 10:18 that I did prior to, out of the past, 10:21 and I didn't want to do anything, 10:22 associate anything with it. 10:24 And music, he would be upstairs, 10:26 "Okay, that's enough squeaking. 10:29 How many times you're going to play that song on the organ? 10:31 How many times you're going to hit that? 10:33 That didn't sound right. It's out of tune." 10:35 So I would walk past all the instruments, the organ, 10:39 my clarinet, piano, violin, I walked past them for a year 10:43 from when he got sick in April of 2016 till, 10:49 you know, just recently calling you, 10:51 I just walked past it, I couldn't do it, 10:54 I wouldn't even look at my instruments in the house. 10:57 And my panels in my living room, 10:59 I would deliberately look the other ways, 11:02 I wouldn't have to look at the piano 11:04 because he would go 11:05 and tinker on the piano on Sabbath 11:07 or during the day, he would sit there. 11:10 So I truly appreciate you, number one, 11:14 your love for God, your love for your... 11:19 helping others, your gift and your talent. 11:22 And you're so good. 11:24 I know last week in lesson, I was really intimidated 11:28 because you made me, you stopped playing. 11:32 And you said, "Let me hear you do this, you know." 11:34 And you watched me to make sure I was looking at the music. 11:37 And I surprised myself. 11:39 And you had me do it over and over. 11:42 But when Aaron came down and Aaron could play 11:45 and you said, "Faster, faster, faster," 11:47 I was like I'm going to get there 11:50 because I'm gonna stay with it. 11:51 You are. 11:52 I'm going to be committed 11:54 and, you know, I've changed all my appointments around 11:57 to make sure it didn't interfere my lessons now. 11:59 And I want you to know I'm committed to that. 12:02 Let's talk about your favorite hymn. 12:05 What's your favorite hymn? 12:07 Oh, I have so many. 12:10 There's a hymn "God Will Take Care of You." 12:14 And I heard that hymn in church when I was a little girl. 12:19 Probably, seven or eight years old 12:25 and that hymn stuck with me all my life, 12:28 "Be not dismayed whate'er betide, 12:32 God will take care of you. 12:35 Beneath His wings of love abide, 12:39 God will take care of you." 12:41 And right up there, there is amazing grace. 12:45 How sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me. 12:49 I once was lost, but now I'm found. 12:54 Was blind, but now I see. 12:57 That is so the condition 13:00 of all of us before we find Lord. 13:04 Would you mind playing "Amazing Grace" for us? 13:08 I would really appreciate 13:10 and I know our viewers would just love it. 13:13 Candace Walls playing "Amazing Grace." 13:52 Oh, my goodness. 13:54 Oh, my goodness. Just bravo. 13:56 Dr. Kim, you're getting there. Oh, my goodness. 13:59 I was so impressed 14:01 when you played with us for a recital 14:03 and the organ piece was beautiful. 14:06 God gave you many talents and music is one of them. 14:10 You and Aaron and I'm so thankful, 14:12 you are pursuing it. 14:14 Yes, yes. 14:15 And then it's not for the world, 14:17 it's not for any... It's for me. 14:20 You know, when I go home people say, 14:21 "Well, what's your therapy? Who do you talk to?" 14:24 And I will, I talk to my violin, 14:27 I talk to my clarinet, I talk to my organ, the piano. 14:31 And it was something when I was at the, doing... 14:33 I was the only organ student. 14:35 And I was like, "Wow! Is there anyone else?" 14:39 And your husband, "No, just you." 14:41 And I had to play some other songs 14:45 with the keyboard students, 14:47 but when I walked in, 14:49 the Oakwood Seventh-day Adventist church, 14:51 there was now three registers, 14:56 it wasn't too like it is. 14:58 You know, at my home and at your home, 15:00 there were three. 15:01 And I looked at your husband like, 15:03 "What am I supposed to do with this?" 15:05 And he said, "Just play the first two 15:09 and if you get a little happy, go to those chords." 15:12 And so my feet were here 15:15 and I'm playing the C chord and I'm playing 15:18 and there's like the Holy Spirit took over. 15:21 And I was on that third register. 15:24 And I was like, it's just beautiful 15:26 and I didn't know 15:27 all the people had come into the sanctuary 15:30 'cause we were in the vestibule with the orchestra. 15:33 And when I finished playing, 15:34 that was my first time playing in public with an organ. 15:38 And I've played with Aaron before 15:40 on the piano at Churchwood and Arthur would sing. 15:43 But at a recital I never made it to a recital. 15:46 Are you ever too old? Is it ever too late? 15:50 Never. 15:52 Dr. Kim, I remember you playing that organ 15:55 and it was so beautiful, as were the strings. 16:01 And one of the reasons I teach and I teach for nothing 16:08 is because there are so many people out there 16:11 that are giving. 16:12 All of my adult students, 16:15 you included have done wonderful things. 16:18 One is a social worker, she gives so much, 16:21 one is a nurse, 16:26 one works tirelessly in the church. 16:29 And so all the Lord is doing 16:32 is using me to give back to you. 16:37 And when I was coming up and learning music, 16:40 I had wonderful teachers. 16:43 They poured so much into me, 16:46 they took me to practice, 16:51 gave me my lessons, and made sure I was exposed. 16:56 And all I'm doing is 16:58 paying it forward with the adults 16:59 and the young people that I teach. 17:01 Paying it forward, I love that. 17:03 And even the young people that I teach. 17:06 Do you know that three of them right now 17:08 are on a missionary trip to Panama? 17:10 What? 17:12 Giving back. Giving back. 17:15 Even my smallest students are givers. 17:18 They are so cute, the little one. 17:20 My six year old beginner is a little girl 17:25 who has three little brothers. 17:27 And I see her helping her mother 17:30 with those brothers of hers, they're so precocious. 17:34 And she is just so helpful. 17:36 Yes, yes. 17:37 But I give 17:39 because it seems like, 17:41 the Lord sends people to me who are givers, 17:46 and He wants to give them back. 17:49 And I was given so much coming up as a musician. 17:54 You know, with my teachers, 17:55 they were so wonderful and kind. 17:57 And I learned from them to give back. 18:01 And I'm thankful 18:02 that I had a wonderful career 18:05 and the Lord takes care of me financially 18:08 that I don't need to charge, I don't want to charge. 18:11 And you don't. 18:12 Again, you know, and you're so compassionate, 18:14 I see your tears, 18:15 you know, I wanted to get you some tissue, 18:17 you know, 'cause... 18:18 I'm sorry, I'm very emotional person. 18:20 No. You're just you... You know... 18:22 But you love what you do and you're so giving, 18:26 you're so inspiring, you're so... 18:28 I remember the recital 18:33 and I was on the back row with the advanced violin 18:36 and I'm like, "Sister Walls, 18:38 I think you get me in the wrong seat. 18:39 Can I go up there with the first graders 18:41 or the second graders?" 18:42 You said, "No, you are in the right seat." 18:45 And you really pushed me, even with "Joyful, joyful" 18:48 I was like, "I can't do this." "Yes, you can." 18:51 And the first year you said, "Dr. Kim, you're not ready." 18:54 And I was like, okay. 18:56 But the second year, 18:58 we practice and practice, and lessons and lessons. 19:02 And you came to, Aaron and I we had to audition for you, 19:05 and you said, we were ready. 19:07 And we took our place with the advanced students 19:10 and we played "Joyful, joyful." 19:12 And again just amazed, 19:15 I was so happy, I was so excited. 19:17 And even when Arthur was becoming ill, 19:20 I said, "Would you want me to play?" 19:22 And he said, "Play for me." 19:23 And sometimes I would hit a wrong note 19:27 and he would just smile 19:29 and he would, I would walk him into the living room 19:31 and I would play the piano and he loved the organ. 19:34 And when he became ill, I left the organ in the room. 19:39 And I've brought his hospital bed in there. 19:42 And Willie Scott came over and played, 19:45 Rodney King, I played. 19:48 And we did, I would just play for him, to him. 19:50 Just say, "Honey, what do you want to hear?" 19:52 And he said, "My favorite hymn, 19:54 'Tis so Sweet to Trust in Jesus." 19:57 And I mean, it took everything I had 20:00 not to break down and cry 20:02 and to play those hymns for him. 20:04 And he would, he would tease me, 20:05 he says, "Oh, you're getting better and better." 20:08 And I said, "I'll try." 20:10 And he said, "No, you are really playing," 20:13 'cause you know when we met 20:14 I knew like three hymns and I play them everyday. 20:17 And he said, "Do we have any other hymns?" 20:20 And I just didn't push myself to learn any other hymns. 20:23 I just was lazy or I got comfortable. 20:27 Someone told me, you know, being comfortable is easier 20:30 than being... 20:32 Oh, no, being uncomfortable, I'm going to be comfortable. 20:35 So forget it, I'll just stay uncomfortable, 20:37 I'm not gonna do this. 20:39 But I need to be uncomfortable, 20:41 I need to say, I need more from myself 20:43 so that I just don't accept being comfortable. 20:46 I want more from me. 20:49 I want to talk about your children, 20:52 they all play also. 20:54 You taught your children to play? 20:56 Yes. 20:57 And these are sons and daughters, 20:59 you have two sons, one plays the what? 21:01 One plays the violin, one plays viola. 21:05 And my daughter played the piano for many years. 21:09 And as she grew up because they're older, 21:12 she stopped playing 21:13 but I have hope that she will return. 21:17 And when he serves as a police officer, 21:20 he plays viola. 21:21 He plays violin. Violin. 21:23 This is his instrument I have today. 21:25 Really? Yes. 21:26 That is amazing. 21:28 I know you are just proud of them. 21:32 People... What do people need to know? 21:34 What are the myths about, you know, music 21:37 and the therapy of music? 21:40 What are some of the myths? 21:42 Well, one of the biggest myths I see 21:49 are adults, 21:50 they don't think they can learn to play. 21:52 Can I get a witness? 21:54 Every time I do a concert, and do a performance, 21:57 People come to me and say, 21:59 I always wanted to play that instrument. 22:02 And I even have people that say, when I was 40 or 45, 22:06 I went to a music store 22:08 and I wanted to learn how to play the violin 22:09 and they told me I was too old. 22:13 And I said, "I don't think you're ever too old." 22:17 Ever. 22:18 "If you want to play an instrument, 22:21 try it, 22:23 there are ways you can try it." 22:24 Yes. I said, "I'll teach you." 22:26 Yes. 22:27 That's one of the myths. 22:30 The second myth is that 22:36 unless you are virtual soul at your instrument, 22:41 there is no place for you. 22:45 I dispel that myth. 22:47 Yes, yes. 22:48 Because we can play together 22:54 in a group 22:55 and sound beautifully. Oh, yeah. 22:58 All of my students are in at the same level. 23:01 Right, that's right. 23:02 But there is 22 of us, 23:05 and so we sound beautiful when we play together, 23:08 even if... 23:10 and I hate to his terminology, 23:13 the worst player is making a few mistakes. 23:16 Yes, yes, yes. 23:18 But I want all my students to give glory to God 23:20 and performance 23:23 so that they can understand 23:25 why they've been given that desire and that gift 23:30 is to bless the Lord. 23:31 We play for an audience of one. Yes. 23:34 But thankfully, that blessing radiates out to everyone 23:38 who is in that congregation or in that concert hall. 23:44 We can do all things through Christ 23:47 who strengthens us. 23:49 Look at the comfort you are to Arthur with your music. 23:54 I have a friend who is a music practitioner. 24:00 That's a little different from music therapy, 24:03 she's a flute player. 24:04 She and I were duet partners. 24:06 We did many concerts together. 24:08 Really? 24:10 And what she does is 24:13 she goes into hospital rooms 24:15 and plays for those who are in pain. 24:18 My goodness. 24:20 If they want her to. Yes. 24:24 And it just helps so much. 24:30 It helps the people who are in pain. 24:32 Music does soothe the savage breast. 24:35 Oh, yes. Yes, it does. 24:36 And it soothes you when you are in pain. 24:39 When you're down, whether you're playing it 24:42 or whether you're hearing it, 24:44 so wonderful gift from God. 24:45 You know, we are taught 24:49 that music is such an intricate part 24:53 of the worship service. 24:55 And, you know, there's different genres of music, 24:58 we have gospel, we have the hymns, 25:02 we have the anthems, we have different choirs, 25:05 children's choir, adult choir, youth choir 25:07 so that we can meet the needs of everyone, 25:09 even the senior choir. 25:11 But I believe 25:13 that it's going to be so much music in the kingdom. 25:16 Yes, it does. 25:17 And, you know, 25:18 do you think we're going to have instruments? 25:20 I mean, I'm never read that we're gonna have... 25:21 Absolutely. Absolutely. 25:23 If Psalms 150 says, 25:26 "Praise the Lord with the trumpet, 25:30 praise Him with stringed instruments, 25:32 praise Him with loud cymbals. 25:35 Let everything that has breath, praise the Lord." 25:38 Why wouldn't there be instruments 25:40 in the Kingdom of Heaven, in God's presence. 25:44 I'm hoping that we will all be in that heavenly orchestra. 25:47 Yes, yes. I just see myself. Praise God. 25:50 I can do every note, every note. 25:52 Every note. No wrong notes. 25:54 Yes. 25:55 No nerves, just playing and praising. 25:59 And I think that God is just giving us a taste... 26:03 Yes. 26:04 Of what is to come... That's interesting. 26:06 What is to come, definitely. 26:08 In his kingdom. 26:09 And I hope to be playing all my instruments 26:12 to be directing one of the choirs too. 26:14 All right, all right. To the glory of God. 26:17 Yes. 26:19 I don't care if I'm way back in the back section, 26:22 role whatever, seek whatever. 26:25 When I was in academy, 26:27 I was the third section of clarinet. 26:30 But my senior challenged the first clarinet, 26:33 and I became first clarinet. 26:36 And it took me about two months to learn that piece 26:39 but I was determined to do it. 26:41 And my mother was so proud 26:43 when she came to Adelphian Academy, 26:47 a Seventh-day Adventist school 26:48 and at there I was sitting in that first chair, 26:52 not just the first section but first clarinet. 26:55 And it just took me to the next level. 26:57 But my mother and father went through a divorce 27:01 and my mother got my sister flute, 27:03 my brother has saxophone, 27:05 my other brother a keyboard and me a clarinet, 27:09 that's how we began our music therapy 27:12 coping with the divorce. 27:15 We used our music to escape. 27:17 And my mother would have us come in together 27:19 and singing in the choir, 27:21 but it was such an impact. 27:23 So that's why I really started when I was just 12 years old 27:26 playing the clarinet in junior high school. 27:29 I cannot thank you enough for coming on... 27:33 Closing words, what do you say to someone, 27:36 go out there and do it, go out there and do it, 27:38 learn how to play. 27:39 What would you say to someone? 27:40 I would say, learn how to play, it is therapy. 27:46 If there's something in you 27:49 that's urging you to play an instrument, 27:54 do it 27:55 because if it's in you, 27:58 the Lord will bring it out of you 28:00 and He will channel it where He needs you to take it. 28:05 Yes, I like that. 28:07 Did you hear what Mrs. Walls said? 28:09 He will channel it to where He wants it to go. 28:12 I want to thank you 28:13 for being with us on Live to be Well. 28:15 And I will see you next week for my music lesson. 28:18 And continue to know 28:20 that God has a blessing and a place for you. 28:23 I'm Dr. Kim, Live to be Well. 28:26 God bless. |
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