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Series Code: LTBW
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00:01 The following program features real clients
00:03 discussing sensitive issues. 00:05 The views and opinions expressed in this program 00:07 don't necessarily reflect 00:09 that of 3ABN's Dare to Dream Network. 00:11 Viewer discretion is advised. 00:49 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, and welcome to Live to be Well. 00:55 What is live to be well? 00:56 Mind, body, and soul, a closer walk with God. 01:02 Many months ago, 01:03 Dr. Kim, I was diagnosed with breast cancer, 01:07 but by my faith and my trust in God 01:10 and also my excellent physicians, 01:13 I was able to overcome breast cancer. 01:16 Today, we're going to talk to someone not once, but twice 01:20 was an overcomer against all odds, 01:23 Miss Wanda Latham. Welcome, Wanda. 01:25 Thank you. Thank you. 01:27 Thank you for coming on Live to be Well. 01:29 Listen, this journey, not once, but twice with breast cancer. 01:34 Can you tell us your journey? 01:36 The first time I was diagnosed with breast cancer, 01:39 I was sitting at home watching TV. 01:42 I have to say the spirit came over me. 01:45 And the reason I say 01:46 that is because I never do self-examinations, which is, 01:49 I would not recommend women not to do that. 01:52 But I didn't, I just didn't, never did self-examinations. 01:55 I always did mammograms regularly. 01:58 This particular time 02:01 I did a self-examination of my breasts 02:04 and I'm like something isn't right. 02:06 I discovered a lump. Yes. 02:08 At that time I went to my doctor 02:10 and my doctor at first thought it was a cyst. 02:12 We were all hoping it was a cyst. 02:15 Come to find out it was a tumor. 02:17 It was a cancerous tumor. Yes. 02:19 At that time I ended up doing a surgery, a lumpectomy, 02:23 they removed it 02:24 and they removed all the cancer. 02:26 Well, the doctors recommended chemotherapy and radiation. 02:31 I was totally against chemotherapy and radiation, 02:33 totally against us. 02:34 So I didn't do it at that time. 02:36 Well, my doctors, I guess my doctor's orders, 02:40 they did state to me that my cancer will come back. 02:44 It was a high risk that my cancer would come back. 02:46 I said, 02:47 "Well, if my cancer comes back, 02:49 the spirit will let me know and he'll... 02:54 As far as God will tell you. Yes. 02:56 I will speak to you. Yes. 02:57 And I will be okay. 03:00 I feel like I will be okay. 03:02 Well, about a year later, 03:05 I was starting to open my business. 03:07 I had retired from my job, 03:09 so I was starting my own business. 03:12 Airbnb, we had, we're moving furniture. 03:15 We're doing so many different things. 03:17 One day I was sitting, 03:20 I was at church 03:21 and for some reason I felt a lump. 03:24 I'm like, oh, my, 03:26 first thing, my thinking was, 03:28 well, maybe it's for me moving, I must have pulled a muscle, 03:33 has to be, I pulled a muscle or something like that. 03:36 So I went to a muscle doctor. 03:38 Doctor said, she said, 03:39 "Well, your muscles are fine. 03:41 I don't know what that is." 03:43 So she sent me back to my oncologist, 03:45 come to find out the cancer had returned. 03:48 And at that point it was third stage. 03:50 Third stage, Wanda? 03:52 Third stage, yes. 03:54 My, my, my. 03:56 So at that point, 03:58 the tumor was just out of control. 04:01 They had to get some control of the tumor 04:02 before they could remove it. 04:04 So they suggested chemotherapy. 04:08 Oh, that was kind of heavy 04:10 because I was so, I've always been so against chemotherapy 04:13 for one reason is because I've heard so many bad things 04:16 about chemotherapy. 04:18 But at the point where I was, 04:19 there was nothing else they can do. 04:21 I had to do the chemotherapy 04:22 in order to have the tumor removed. 04:24 So I agreed to have the chemotherapy. 04:26 They had to shrink the tumor. Right. 04:28 And get some type of control over it. 04:29 Yeah, by shrinking it. Yeah. 04:31 So I've, I went, starts, 04:33 I started September 14th to February 7th. 04:38 Wow. I did chemotherapy. 04:41 It was, I will say this, 04:43 it wasn't as bad as I thought it was. 04:46 And it could be because of technology 04:48 and many things that they've done now, 04:50 as far as chemotherapy. 04:53 So I did the chemotherapy. 04:56 Once I finished that, at that point, 04:59 the tumor was at a place where they could do, 05:03 another through surgery to remove it. 05:07 So my doctor went in, 05:08 she did, she, that was, this was April. 05:11 She removed the tumor, 05:13 she removed a lot of the tissue. 05:15 So I had to have breast reconstruction 05:17 because she removed most of the tissue 05:20 from my right breast, 05:21 which is where the cancer was. 05:23 She removed my lymph nodes 05:24 because the cancer was in my lymph nodes. 05:26 No, it spreads to the lymph nodes. 05:27 It spreads to my lymph nodes. 05:29 So she removed my lymph nodes. 05:31 I had to have reconstruction of my breasts. 05:35 So after that, then after the healing, 05:39 after I healed I believe it was in July, July 2nd, 05:44 I started radiation. 05:47 So, but I went through radiation 05:49 for four weeks. 05:50 Four weeks? Yes. 05:52 But I can really say 05:54 the journey was not as bad as I thought it was. 05:57 You know, it wasn't as bad as I thought. 05:59 So I went through radiation and I was, 06:03 I rang the cancer-free bill. 06:06 Yes, I did that. 06:08 I remember, yes. 06:09 I rang the cancer-free bill. 06:11 I believe it was in August. 06:12 I can't remember the exact date. 06:14 I should never forget that date. 06:15 But I can't remember the exact date. 06:17 So I was cancer-free, 06:21 so, but that was, it has truly been a journey. 06:24 It has truly been a journey for me. 06:26 I will say from September, 06:28 almost a year, almost a year has been, 06:30 truly been a journey for me. 06:32 But God has seen you through? 06:33 Oh, yes. 06:35 It was very important because when we... 06:38 Myself, when I was diagnosed with cancer, 06:41 you kind of weed out people. 06:45 So it was, I had to bring in my family. 06:47 I had to bring them in. 06:48 Some of the friends, I didn't tell, 06:50 but I had to bring my family. 06:51 And they were, even though my children, 06:53 I know they were scared, they were there for me. 06:57 They were there, you know, 06:59 my doctor's appointments, my surgery, 07:03 after the surgery my radiation. 07:07 And then I also had close friends 07:09 that I consider family that were just right there. 07:12 I had a very, very good support system 07:14 and that's very important. 07:16 That's very important. 07:18 The bottom line here, 07:20 as I talk about Live to be Well, 07:22 and the reason I had Wanda to come on today was 07:25 that you cannot ignore symptoms or signs. 07:30 Briefly tell me about your brother? 07:32 I had a brother Kevin, 07:34 he discovered a small lump in this area. 07:38 It's a small one. 07:40 It was in this area 07:41 and he ignored it for a year 07:45 over a year. 07:46 And it wasn't until he had to go to the doctor. 07:48 I think he had the flu or he had flu like symptoms. 07:52 He went to the doctor 07:53 and at that point it was fourth-stage. 07:55 It was fourth. 07:56 How old was Kevin when that happened? 07:57 Kevin was 49 when he died. 07:59 Forty nine? 08:01 How young. Fifty, I'm sorry. 08:02 He was 50 when he died. 08:03 Oh, that's still young. Yes, yes. 08:06 So what we're trying to say you, Wanda, is 08:08 don't ignore the symptoms. 08:11 Please, go to the doctor, 08:13 have your regular mammograms, your checkups. 08:16 Make sure that you understand what's going on with your body 08:20 because you will look up it's too late. 08:23 And that's what happens to not just men, but women 08:27 don't recognize the importance of having regular checkups. 08:33 And I went for my regular checkup, 08:35 my regular mammogram. 08:37 I had the 3D 08:38 and they called me back in for another checkup, Wanda. 08:43 And I said, they said, they want to do a biopsy. 08:45 I said, "Biopsy?" 08:46 Now my mind went right to my sister. 08:49 I have cancer in my family. 08:51 I went to my daughter, Micah, who's a six year survivor now. 08:55 So I said, okay, no problem. 08:58 Because they said in the past I was cystic. 09:00 My family were cystic, 09:02 but my gynecologist called me and she was crying. 09:08 And I said, "Don't, don't, don't cry. Just tell me." 09:11 Right, right. 09:13 She said, "You have breast cancer." 09:16 And I took a deep breath. I know. 09:18 You know, and I didn't even tell, 09:19 my administrator was Anderson yet had not, 09:22 I called my daughter, Micah and she said, 09:25 "No, mommy, I didn't want this for you." 09:28 And her prayer was dear, Lord, 09:31 please don't take my mommy through what I've been through 09:34 because my daughter had the same process, 09:36 they had to shrink her tumor with the chemo, 09:40 then do the surgery, 09:41 then the radiation. 09:43 Right. Praise God. 09:44 I had the surgery, then radiation. 09:46 Now, you know the medication. 09:49 So we are sending, we're sounding the trumpet. 09:52 How loud do we have to say it, Wanda? 09:55 Don't ignore your body. 09:57 Please have regular checkups. 09:59 See your doctor. 10:01 And immediately he feels something. 10:03 If you see something, 10:04 if something's not right, go to the doctor. 10:07 I'd like to also mention after my radiation, 10:10 I felt something. 10:11 Something just didn't feel right. 10:13 And I know my breasts, 10:14 you know, with the reconstruction, 10:16 things are a little different, but it just didn't feel right. 10:19 And I called my doctor. 10:21 She called me and I had a biopsy, 10:23 come to find out it was, everything was fine. 10:24 Yes. 10:26 But you have to stay on, on those types of things. 10:28 You have to, you know, because if it gets to the point 10:31 where the doctors can't do anything... 10:34 There's nothing else to be done. 10:35 There's nothing else that can be done. 10:37 And even with our faith, praying, studying our Word. 10:40 Yes. 10:42 But I believe with all my heart, 10:43 mind and soul 10:44 that God has given us physicians 10:47 to seek counsel, to get the necessary help. 10:50 You know, the Bible says, physician heal thyself. 10:53 Look at what God needs us to do. 10:56 So now then you have come through that, 11:00 what's next for Wanda? 11:02 Well, right now I'm traveling, 11:05 just doing, trying to live life to the fullest 11:09 because I think when you come that close to 11:11 and I have to say, if you come next. 11:12 When you're diagnosed twice with cancer, 11:16 you just look at things a bit differently. 11:18 Yes, you do. 11:20 And my thing now is to be happy, 11:22 be peaceful and just, 11:27 just live life to the fullest. 11:29 You know, I'm 57. 11:31 So I just want to live my life to the fullest. 11:34 Be thankful... Yes. 11:36 Build my faith up more. 11:38 You know, that's, 11:40 that's some of my goals for life 11:41 is just to live my life to the fullest, 11:43 travel, be happy, be peaceful, be kind, 11:47 if, even if I can talk to another woman, 11:50 if I can encourage her to get in, 11:54 do the proper screening every, 11:57 if it's six months, if it's something, 11:59 it's a, if it's a year do that, 12:02 you know, encourage women to don't wait. 12:04 Yes. 12:05 If you feel something, move on that. 12:07 Move on. Yes. 12:08 Can I go back to how we met? 12:10 Yes. I can do that. 12:11 Yes, yes. Wanda was my patient. 12:14 Wanda came in to talk about her concerns 12:18 about her health. 12:20 And at that time I had not been diagnosed. 12:23 Right. 12:24 And she was very transparent, very open 12:27 about what she was going through with me. 12:30 As her therapist, giving her tools, 12:33 how to cope with her stress, 12:35 her concerns, praying with her, 12:38 helping her through certain hazards. 12:39 She was faithful to her God, her family, counseling. 12:44 She was just committed. 12:47 And, but let me tell you how God used you. 12:50 Here I was counseling you, 12:52 but God was preparing me through you 12:56 because I had not talked to anyone else 12:59 about breast cancer. 13:00 God chose you. 13:02 Allowed you to go through. 13:04 I believe it was everything I have 13:06 to save my life 13:08 because I could have ignored it. 13:10 Yeah. 13:11 And you know what? 13:13 I missed two appointments for my mammogram 13:15 because I was busy in this office. 13:17 And I said, "I'll get to it. I'll get to it." 13:19 And that's what we do, that's what we do. 13:21 We get so busy. 13:22 And that's one thing I wanna encourage women. 13:24 If you have an appointment, don't miss any appointments. 13:26 Yes. 13:27 That's something I always, 13:29 I was very dedicated to my treatment. 13:30 Yes. Very dedicated to that. 13:32 You know, once I found out, don't miss any appointments. 13:35 Yes. And I met. 13:37 And Wanda, I said, 13:38 well, I just had my mammogram a year ago, I'm fine. 13:41 I'll get it in later on during the summer. 13:43 And then Micah called, my daughter and says, 13:46 "Mom, did you have your mammogram?" 13:48 I said, "I got to schedule for next week." 13:50 "Mom, you canceled it twice. Go." 13:53 So I made sure I put it on a day 13:55 that I knew I would not miss, 13:57 went in and only, only God, only God. 14:02 And I mean, within 24 hours, 14:04 they called me back in and they said, 14:07 we need you back in this office. 14:08 And I... Well, I can't. 14:10 And she said, "This is not an option." 14:12 Right. We found something. 14:14 Yes. So I dropped everything. 14:16 And I was there that morning. 14:18 And when I was in the car, 14:19 I did like this in the car, Wanda. 14:21 And I prayed. 14:23 I said, come on, Kim, get out of the car. 14:27 And it wasn't fear as much as I don't... 14:30 I'm not prepared to go through this. 14:31 Right. 14:33 But if I have to go through it, I will. 14:34 Right. 14:35 Some people may say it was fear. 14:37 I don't, I just didn't have to... 14:38 I didn't have time in my life to deal with cancer. 14:41 I understand that. There was no room for it. 14:44 Yes, exactly. 14:45 I had just retired 14:46 and I was opening my own business. 14:48 Yes, I know. 14:50 I know, I didn't have time for it. 14:51 And I said, this is not really a good time for this right now. 14:54 Right. 14:55 I'm gonna come back in a few years. 14:56 Yes, yes. 14:58 But here it was. 14:59 And you know, going through it. 15:00 And I remember my sister and my administrator, 15:03 my cousin, Karen, was with me doing the... 15:08 My husband's cousin was with me doing the diagnosis 15:11 and different things 15:12 when I met with the surgeon, 15:13 then when I had the procedure they were there the surgery 15:17 'cause that's a very serious surgery. 15:19 Yes. 15:20 And I said, "I love you all. Thank you so much." 15:23 Next thing I know I was out. 15:26 And then they were waking me up and they were like 15:29 I said, "No, let me sleep." 15:30 They said, "No, we're waking you up." 15:32 'Cause I wanna go home. 15:34 But, and then you... 15:36 It was painful, Wanda. 15:37 It is. It's very painful. 15:39 I still have some tenderness even now. 15:41 They didn't find it in my lymph nodes, 15:43 but they had to go in to see. 15:45 Do you know, a year later it is still tender. 15:47 And I do my exercises. Yes. 15:48 Yes. 15:50 So to prevent all that, 15:52 get a regular checkup. 15:54 Yes. 15:55 'Cause there's nothing like a doctor saying, 15:56 you know, you have cancer, 15:58 but you got to us in time and it's treatable. 16:01 Yeah. That is such a good feeling. 16:04 Yes. Such, you know words. 16:06 You know, so I was like, okay. 16:08 So that's the reason I encourage women, 16:10 you know, right now from my surgery,... 16:13 I'm still, I still have swelling. 16:15 Yes. 16:16 And these are things I still go through, not major, 16:19 but just for them to tell me, you get to us in time. 16:22 Yes. So we can... 16:24 Your cancer is treatable. 16:26 That's like... 16:27 Those are sweet words. Yes, they are. Yes, they are. 16:31 So now, you know, with, you're traveling on business, 16:34 you look great? 16:35 Thank you. 16:37 You feel good? I feel really good. 16:38 My doctor has me in the gym three times a week. 16:41 Yes. 16:42 I didn't understand that at first... 16:44 Yes. 16:45 But I understand it now that's to keep weight off, 16:47 to keep my mind lifted, to keep my body strong. 16:49 Yes. 16:51 All that's important. Yes. 16:52 So I stay in a gym. I feel really good. 16:54 That's good. I feel good. 16:56 Yes. I feel good. 16:57 Yeah, live to be well. 16:59 I tell you it's all about live to be well. 17:00 Yes. 17:01 And having a perspective of you. 17:03 Yes. 17:04 And I've talked to women since then, 17:06 you know, I walk in the breast cancer walk. 17:08 I'm very active, I'm very involved. 17:10 I'm wearing pink today for Wanda. 17:13 Yes and myself. Thank you. 17:14 Yes. Yeah. 17:16 That's our color for breast cancer. 17:19 And did you know, now this amazed, 17:21 and our viewing audience may know, 17:23 I had no idea there were so many colors for cancer. 17:27 I didn't know that either. 17:28 When my husband passed away, I had pink on the program 17:32 and my daughter says, 17:33 "Mommy, why are you using pink? 17:35 That's for breast cancer." 17:36 I said, I thought it was for cancer. 17:38 She said, "Mom, go to the color chart for cancer." 17:40 I said, "What?" Oh, okay. 17:42 I went on the internet and there was a color chart. 17:46 I didn't know that. Yes. 17:47 I didn't know that. Yes. 17:48 I literally just froze in my place right there. 17:52 Right. 17:53 So this month is sickle cell. Okay. 17:56 All right? 17:57 And next month is domestic violence 18:00 and breast cancer. 18:01 You got purple and pink and I'm overwhelmed. 18:05 And my husband's cancer 18:06 bile duct cancer was teal green. 18:09 So people will see me. I love teal green. 18:11 Okay. 18:12 And if you come to my home, there's pink and teal green 18:15 breast cancer and his cancer. 18:17 Okay. 18:18 And it's just something I've done. 18:21 And I love the colors. Right. 18:22 The colors are just beautiful. Right. 18:24 And I went through a fire 18:28 and let me just share this, going through, losing my, 18:32 my daughter getting breast cancer, 18:34 my mother passing away, my building... 18:37 My former building burning down. 18:40 Then my aunt passed away. 18:42 My mother's sister that was 2015. 18:46 My husband passed away 2016. 18:48 2017, our cousin passed away. 18:51 2018, I get breast cancer. 18:54 2019, a fire in my home. 18:57 Do you hear me? 18:59 You have to have a walk with God, 19:01 or you will literally just lose your mind. 19:04 Yes, yes. 19:05 You have to be attached 19:07 to the Spirit of the living God. 19:09 You do. 19:10 And that's... 19:11 I mean, I've been connected to the Spirit 19:14 since I was a little girl. Yes. 19:16 That's all I know. Yes. 19:18 As soon as something comes on me, 19:19 go to the spiritual side. 19:21 Yes. I know a lot of times we... 19:24 We're so connected with the natural... 19:26 Yes. 19:27 But the spiritual comes first, and then the natural. 19:29 That's right. 19:30 And I've been trained since a little girl... 19:32 Yes. Go to the spiritual side. 19:33 That's right. And that's what... 19:35 Strength. That's what got... Yes... 19:36 It gives you so much. 19:38 That's what got me through my journey, 19:39 the spiritual side. 19:41 Yes. 19:42 It was a spiritual journey for me. 19:43 I learned so much about the spiritual side. 19:46 Yes. So I am high on spiritual. 19:50 Yes. Yes. That's first. 19:52 Your connection you got... Yes. 19:53 And then you... And you shared that. 19:54 Are you speaking at different 19:56 breast cancer rallies or have you been going 19:59 to the different events around to study? 20:01 I go to the walk. Yes. 20:02 It was ironic. 20:03 I was speaking to a lady, she, at the water board... 20:07 Yes. Yes. I was on the phone with her... 20:09 And I was telling her, you know, 20:10 I, I just went through breast cancer. 20:12 She was like, oh, you know, she was just saying that 20:14 she was glad we talked 20:15 because she had breast cancer... 20:17 Wow. 20:18 And she was torn between the chemotherapy. 20:20 She just didn't wanna do the chemotherapy. 20:22 So we had a really good discussion 20:24 and I gave my view on it. 20:25 Yes. 20:26 And through my experience, I helped her. 20:29 So if I can do that for women, 20:31 that's my main goal 20:32 as a result of this journey 20:34 is to uplift and motivate and encourage women. 20:39 First of all, to take care of themselves, 20:41 we have to take care of ourselves. 20:42 It's about self-care. It is. 20:45 And if you don't implement the self-care, 20:49 how can you help someone else? 20:50 Exactly. 20:51 And I wanna be able to be here for my children. 20:55 I wanna be here to minister here, 20:59 to counsel individuals. 21:01 That's how you and I met. Yes. 21:03 And being able to take this journey 21:06 into wellbeing and helping people recognize 21:09 that you don't have to live. 21:11 He has not given us a spirit of fear, 21:12 but of love, power, and a sound mind. 21:15 Sound mind means, I'm gonna have my mammogram. 21:18 Exactly. I'm gonna have my checkup. 21:19 Exactly. I'm gonna do what's necessary. 21:22 And you know, another thing is the doc... 21:24 No, God works through the doctors. 21:26 Yes. And that... 21:28 And you know, it took me a while to, 21:31 to get to that point. 21:32 But I started seeing it as my healing with my journey 21:36 and the healing, 21:38 and then recommending this 21:39 and I came through it okay, the chemotherapy, 21:43 then the surgery I came through okay. 21:44 Then the radiation and I came through it okay. 21:47 So my take from that was, 21:50 God works through the physicians. 21:52 Yes. 21:53 You know, all this stuff is put here for us. 21:54 Yes. 21:56 So don't, you know, don't set up an effect, 21:57 you know, doctors but that... 21:59 You know, that's here for us. Yes. 22:01 So we have to take advantage of that. 22:03 And I'm glad I did. 22:04 I applaud you because even your well... 22:06 Your mental health wellbeing, seeking out therapy 22:09 because people say, I... 22:11 Let's keep it in house. 22:12 Let's don't tell anyone. 22:14 We don't want our business outside the unit, 22:17 but the unit is breaking down 22:19 and we need to bring in someone, 22:21 you and I didn't know each other. 22:22 No, we didn't. 22:24 I was here to be objective... Yes. 22:25 Listen to your story, 22:27 try to understand, and provide support. 22:28 Right, exactly. 22:29 And we have to make sure, Wanda, 22:31 that we don't have negative input 22:33 coming into our space. 22:35 That's very important. 22:36 You know... That's very important. 22:37 People, you know, 22:39 people who are feeding into negativity, 22:41 do you know that causes cancer to come back? 22:45 Right. 22:47 That stress, that anxiety, depression, 22:50 and then were people watching on television. 22:53 Right. 22:54 I remember when I first started in therapy 22:57 the HIV virus was very, very popular 23:00 and I would go and visit the different patients 23:04 'cause nobody wanted to go visit them. 23:06 So I took the assignment... Okay. 23:08 And I worked for an agency 23:10 called Children's Center of Wayne County, 23:13 but still nobody wanted to work in that department 23:16 of AIDS and HIV. 23:18 And whether it was blood transfusion 23:21 or another reason. 23:23 And I remember just reaching out 23:27 and hugging individual. 23:29 Knowledge, or the lack of knowledge 23:31 will destroy your... 23:34 In a relationship with your family. 23:35 Yes. You can't touch him. 23:37 You'll get AIDS. 23:38 No, you can't get AIDS by touching. 23:40 Right. 23:41 You know, oh, don't touch that person. 23:43 You'll get breast cancer. 23:45 And I'm like, you need to have knowledge 23:48 or the stigma that, oh, you have breast cancer. 23:52 Oh, you're half a woman 23:54 because you don't have a breast... 23:55 Yes. Or you've lost it. 23:56 You've lost both your breasts. 23:58 I'm still a full woman. Exactly. 24:01 It's my mind that I'm working with here. 24:03 Yes. 24:04 And yes, that's issue 24:07 that I have to deal with every day. 24:08 So I applaud you for seeking mental health counseling... 24:12 Oh, yes. 24:13 Seeking physical counseling from your physician. 24:16 Oh, yes. 24:18 And now you're on your way out of town going to... 24:20 Where are you heading now? 24:21 I'm headed to the Southern part of Bahamas, 24:23 not the Northern part... 24:25 Northern part, the Southern part... 24:26 Yeah, the Southern part of Bahamas... 24:27 Okay. 24:29 There was destroy, destruction in the Northern part... 24:30 All right. We went to the Southern part. 24:31 So you be safe over there and have a good time. 24:34 Thank you. 24:36 You know, what's your favorite Bible scripture? 24:38 Psalms 23. Yes. 24:40 "The Lord is my shepherd. I shall not want." 24:42 Yes. 24:43 And many day I had to quote that... 24:45 Yes. 24:47 I had to quote that for me, 24:48 to get me through the chemo 24:52 and the radiation and the surgery, you know. 24:56 I don't have to walk for anything 24:57 because God is there for me. 25:00 He's there, He's there. 25:01 So that's my favorite scripture. 25:05 Yes. 25:07 "The Lord is my shepherd," Psalms 23. 25:08 I have another favorite and it's Psalms 34: 1. 25:12 "I will bless the Lord at all times. 25:15 And his praise shall continue being in my mouth. 25:18 Yes. 25:19 So while I'm praising you, 25:20 I can't curse you at the same time. 25:22 No, no. 25:23 I can't doubt the power of God and what God can do. 25:26 So I'm going to bless Him, I'm going to praise Him. 25:30 The Bible said He inhabits those 25:31 that praise Him. 25:32 And I thank Him for bringing this on 25:36 because we serve a God 25:37 who knows what He's doing. 25:38 Right. 25:40 He gives us wake up calls. Yes. 25:41 You know, I had the nerve to say, 25:43 you know, when my house was on fire, 25:46 I just said, you know what? 25:47 What more do you want? 25:49 What more do you want from me, God? 25:52 I've given you so much. 25:55 You've given me breast cancer. 25:57 My mother, my father, my husband, 25:59 my daughter, my aunt. 26:01 What more do you want? 26:02 My building is burnt. 26:03 And you know what I heard Him say to me? 26:06 I want more... Okay. 26:08 I need more because what's about to come. 26:12 You know, He said your latter days 26:13 be better than your former days, 26:14 but you have not seen, 26:17 what's going to come in these last days 26:19 and I need to gird you up. 26:21 I believe that. You've got be strong. 26:23 Yes, I believe that. 26:24 And you can't be, you know, falling apart on Me, 26:27 'cause He needs us, Wanda, to finish the work. 26:30 Yes. I believe that. 26:32 So He allowed us to go through this 26:33 and much more 26:35 so that we'll be able to be His vessels 26:38 to tell others. 26:39 Number one, God loves you. 26:41 Come to Christ 26:42 and then please don't ignore your body. 26:45 Please don't. Please don't. 26:47 Take care of your body. That's my main thing. 26:48 Don't ignore anything, don't... 26:50 Even if you don't even know... Yes. 26:52 If you think maybe this is not it, 26:54 don't question it. 26:55 Yes. 26:57 Just go and go to your doctor and get tested. 26:58 Yes. 26:59 You know, you have to, you have to. 27:01 You have to, that's just, 27:02 this is non-negotiable say that. 27:04 It is. It is non-negotiable. 27:05 It's not open for discussion. 27:07 No, it's not. No, it's not. 27:08 You have to go. Yeah. 27:09 Wanda, I wanna thank you so much 27:11 for being here today. 27:12 And I'm so happy for you and being breast cancer free. 27:16 Yes, we both are. Oh, yes. 27:19 I wanna say to my viewers that 27:21 this was not easy for Wanda, this journey, 27:24 and I've been with her on this journey. 27:27 And so recognizing 27:29 how important it is for you to get tested, 27:32 to take care of yourself, men and women, 27:34 even your children, 27:35 taking them to their physicians, 27:37 their pediatricians, 27:39 take time to take care of you 27:41 because we need you. 27:43 We need you to live to be well and be healthy and be strong. 27:46 The Bible says, 27:47 "Seek ye first the kingdom of God 27:49 and all things shall be added unto thee." 27:52 You have to seek God's will over your life 27:54 so that you will be here to serve Him 27:57 and be a conduit for Him. 28:00 Thank you for joining me on Live to be Well. 28:02 I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin. 28:04 God bless. |
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