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Series Code: LTBW
Program Code: LTBW190037S
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00:01 The following program features real clients
00:03 discussing sensitive issues. 00:05 The views and opinions expressed in this program 00:07 don't necessarily reflect 00:09 that of 3ABN's Dare to Dream Network. 00:11 Viewer discretion is advised. 00:49 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, and welcome to Live to be Well. 00:54 What is live to be well? 00:55 Mind, body, and soul, 00:58 but without God being the head of our lives, 01:01 where would we be? 01:03 When I think about a song, 01:05 if it had not been for the Lord on my side, 01:09 where would I be? 01:12 Today I have two special guests. 01:15 You know, I was blessed to have a sister 01:18 and her name is Renee Logan Humphreys, 01:21 love her dearly. 01:22 She's my baby sister, my only sister. 01:25 And I nurture her and I care for her. 01:28 She's a school principal. She lives in Virginia. 01:31 So I don't get a chance to see her often. 01:33 Then I was blessed to have my oldest child, 01:37 a baby girl. 01:39 And when she found out that 01:41 Arthur and I were expecting our second child, 01:43 mommy, you can't have a boy. 01:45 I said, well, I don't think it's up to me. 01:48 She said, well, please, mommy. 01:49 I want a sister. 01:50 And nine months later, or eight months later, 01:53 a baby sister came forth. 01:55 So it's something special. 01:58 No offense to brethren and having sons. 02:02 And I love them too, because where would we be 02:04 if we wouldn't have children? 02:06 But the bottom line is, 02:07 there's something special about a sister's love. 02:10 Today I have Annette Green 02:13 and I have Jeanette Minley, welcome ladies. 02:15 Thank you. Identical twins. 02:18 I love it. Yes. 02:19 You are my first twins on Live To Be Well. 02:23 I am really excited about this. 02:26 Well, let's talk about what is it like to be a twin? 02:30 All right. 02:32 Annette, what is it like being a twin? 02:33 It's awesome. 02:35 It's all that we know. 02:37 We do have other siblings, but the bond that we have as twins, 02:42 we've overcome so much because we have that closeness. 02:45 Yeah. 02:47 How do you keep Jeanette, that closeness? 02:49 Communication. Okay. 02:51 And it's an unspoken vibe that we have 02:55 and we're very close. 02:57 Very close. Very close. 02:59 So do you guys travel together? 03:01 Do you talk every day, 03:03 spend time together on the weekends? 03:05 You do that? We do all of it. 03:07 All of it. 03:08 Now, let me ask you this, growing up, 03:10 tell me some of the things that you had to go through, 03:12 like in school, did you matriculate all the way through 03:16 elementary, middle high school together? 03:18 Did they separate you 03:19 because you were identical twins? 03:21 Well, we started school in the 60s. 03:25 So our first class together 03:31 was a preschool 03:32 and they allowed us to sit together. 03:34 Okay. 03:36 Our first episode was kindergarten. 03:38 They separated us and that didn't go very well 03:42 while we were clinging on to each other. 03:45 My parents had to, you know, 03:47 talk to us and that was the first time 03:51 that we actually had to separate. 03:54 They separated you. Right. 03:55 That was a trauma. 03:56 It was a trauma. 03:58 And I don't think we shared any classes after that. 04:00 No. 04:02 Stayed in the same schools? 04:03 Same schools. 04:04 But no further interaction in the same classes. 04:07 Right. Different classes. 04:09 I mean, we've had some situations 04:11 where the teachers would get us mixed up. 04:14 And I think that was the first time 04:16 that we realized we were twins. 04:20 My parents had to tag us. We looked so much alike. 04:25 And you know, 04:26 I had a bracelet with my name on it. 04:29 My sister had one with her name on it 04:31 because the teachers would just pull us 04:32 when we were, you know, much younger. 04:35 So we've had some interesting situations in school. 04:38 Could your siblings tell you apart? 04:42 Our siblings could. 04:43 They could. Yeah, sometimes. 04:44 Sometimes. Yeah. 04:46 Okay. 04:47 Not over the phone. Not over the phone. 04:49 You sound just alike over the phone? 04:50 Yes. Yes. 04:51 That's like my sister and I, we try to fool our children. 04:55 Mom, we know it's you. All right. 04:57 Or she'll call, hello, hello, Micah. 04:59 Aunt Renee, what are you trying to do? 05:01 Right. Right. 05:02 So being in the same school, see each other. 05:05 Did your friends, you know, did you have the same friends, 05:08 you had different friends? 05:09 Both. 05:11 We share a lot of our friends, the majority, 05:13 but we do have individual relationships. 05:17 Friendships that we built in different classes. 05:22 Even now our friends at work. 05:25 So, but for the most part we interact. 05:28 So we share a lot of our friends 05:30 Are you best friends? 05:31 Yes. 05:33 You say it with such tenacity, yes, without a doubt. 05:36 Without a doubt. 05:38 What do you do when you do have a conflict? 05:40 What happens then? How do you handle it? 05:42 Conflict with each other. 05:44 In your relationship where you disagree. 05:45 Do you ever disagree? We always disagree. 05:47 You always disagree? Oh, yes. 05:49 But we respect each other's differences. 05:51 Okay. 05:53 Set some boundaries? Absolutely. 05:54 Okay. 05:56 And so from that, you're able to enhance the relationship. 05:59 What are some of the challenges that your parents had with you? 06:04 We were so close that 06:06 if she was scolded, I would take it personally. 06:10 And so that right there was a challenge. 06:14 Yeah. 06:15 If we, one got punished for something, 06:17 you might as well punish us both. 06:19 Yes. 06:20 It started out early like that. Oh, yeah, for sure. 06:23 So did you ever say to yourself, okay, 06:26 you're my sister, I look just like you, 06:29 you look as like me and you... 06:33 Did you ever say to yourself, 06:34 well, I look a little different than you. 06:37 Did you ever find any difference 06:39 in the way you looked as you were growing up? 06:43 Teenagers. 06:44 We that's, when we wanted to be our own individual person. 06:49 That's where the struggle happened, 06:51 where I wanted to be me 06:52 and come out of this dressing alike. 06:55 She wore dresses all the time. 06:57 I just, I had a little sporty edge 06:59 and that's when we started to fight for our individuality. 07:02 Right. 07:04 Because our parents, our grandparents raised us, 07:07 so they wanted to dress us alike 07:10 and we put our foot down. 07:12 However, it wasn't until graduation. 07:15 Graduation Day 07:16 Graduation day you stopped. 07:18 Yeah. That was the last day. 07:19 That was the last time. 07:21 Okay. Okay. 07:22 And then what happened? 07:24 We had creative. 07:27 We were just different. Just different. 07:28 Yes. Yeah. 07:30 And we started to cling on to who we were, 07:32 but it took after graduation to figure that out. 07:36 And develop our own styles. 07:38 What happened with your teachers 07:40 when they would see you all because graduation, 07:42 you graduated together? 07:43 Yes. 07:44 You know, and there you were marching in, 07:46 you came in right behind one another 07:48 when they called your names? 07:49 No, together. Together. 07:51 We held hands. You held? 07:53 Yes. Yeah. 07:54 Across the stage? That's right. 07:57 No. Yes. 08:01 Oh, my goodness. 08:02 That must have been really cute to see you all do that. 08:05 It was emotional. 08:06 It was, and it was important to us 08:08 because we moved from Michigan to California 08:12 and they gave us such a hard time 08:14 with our records. 08:16 And so when we finally graduated, 08:18 it was such a tremendous feeling. 08:22 An accomplishment. A big accomplishment. 08:24 It's something we share together 08:25 at the same time. 08:27 I'm getting emotional thinking about it. 08:29 Yes. 08:30 Because some siblings graduate before after, 08:31 but never together. 08:33 You know, my mom 08:35 my brother's name is Kirk, I'm Kim. 08:38 And I said, mom, were you trying for twins? 08:40 And she said, I think so, but it didn't work out. 08:43 My brother and I are 10 months apart. 08:47 And so we are the same age for like 29 days. 08:52 Okay. 08:53 I'm September the fifth. 08:55 He's October the 19th. 08:57 So when he calls me, we're the same age. 08:59 So we say, hey, twin. 09:00 Hi, twin. 09:02 And we do that during those 29 days 09:05 because we are the same age 09:06 and people would say, how is that possible? 09:09 And I said, you know, my mom 09:11 had me 10 months after my brother. 09:14 And so she named him Kirk and here I came Kim. 09:17 And so we, she said I wanted those twins, 09:21 but she still gave us those names. 09:23 So in that, and he and I are close. 09:25 We're very close. 09:27 The relationship, you know, that you have with God. 09:30 Tell me about that 09:31 as sisters and as an individual, 09:34 your relationship with God? 09:37 So together we've had some challenges in our past 09:42 as children. 09:43 I mentioned our grandparents raised us 09:46 and they instilled, they instilled 09:51 a lot of that in us 09:53 and we grew to understand it. 09:57 We have a strong relationship 10:01 with God separately and together. 10:05 Amen. Amen. 10:06 Yeah. 10:08 Being able to growing up and even now, 10:11 do you pray together? 10:12 Oh, yes. 10:14 You should see your faith. Your faith is right. 10:16 And you're like, lady 10:18 why are you asking me questions, 10:20 you know, my sister and I are just close 10:22 with God in everything. 10:24 So you all pray together? Oh, yes. 10:26 Yes. Why do you pray together? 10:28 Strength in numbers. 10:29 And if something's going on with me in my life, 10:33 my sister comes with me and we come, 10:36 we go to God 10:37 and we lay it all out and we pray. 10:40 And it's worked for us. 10:43 It's worked for our other siblings. 10:46 It's just what we believe in. 10:49 Yes. 10:50 When I first talked to you, Jeanette, 10:52 so sweet on the phone and just in your communication, 10:56 couldn't wait to meet you and that, and just lovely. 10:59 And you could just feel the presence of God 11:01 in your voice, 11:03 the way you took time to talk with me, 11:06 your work, 11:08 you're a coordinator in a mental health clinic. 11:11 You see people day in day out with mental health illness. 11:14 Yes. 11:15 I am a mental health specialist. 11:17 How do you handle that as a coordinator 11:19 in your job and being able to, 11:22 you know, utilize the power of prayer 11:25 and you see the turmoil in people's lives? 11:31 I have Christ in my life. 11:34 I have that. 11:36 I'm strong when it comes to that 11:38 and I have compassion 11:39 and I see that people are struggling 11:43 and I see some people don't have him in their life. 11:47 So I try to be as understanding as possible. 11:51 And it's like a guide, it guides me through. 11:54 I pray when I get to work in the morning. 11:56 I pray when I leave. 11:58 anything, I have, 11:59 I leave at the door and I pick it right back up. 12:03 Yes, yes. 12:04 You look at the climate of our world today. 12:07 We can't even walk into the supermarket 12:09 without seeing armed police officers now. 12:13 We see what happened in El Paso, Texas. 12:16 We can go into, I had gone to a mall 12:20 and just before I got there I saw the police 12:23 and I said, what's going on? 12:24 They said, there has been a robbery 12:26 in the store. 12:27 And so right now we're not letting anyone in the mall. 12:29 We're only keeping those who are inside. 12:32 I got in my car and I left, you know, 12:35 what do you see And how does it impact you 12:38 as sisters the climate of change 12:41 that's happening in our world today 12:43 with all the mass shootings, people are losing children, 12:47 people lost siblings, you know. 12:50 And I can't imagine for me to pick up the phone 12:53 and get a call my sister was at a store 12:56 and she was shot. 12:57 And I'm like, what? 12:58 I can't even fathom that. Yes. 13:00 But it's happening in our society, you know? 13:03 And that's why I think it's so important that I 13:05 talk to my sister. 13:07 I talk to my loved ones, you know? 13:08 So what do you think, or you see 13:11 is happening in our society today, 13:13 where people are at heart. 13:14 The Bible said in the last days, 13:16 hearts will wax cold. 13:18 Do we see that happening now? 13:19 Oh, yes. I see it every day. 13:23 And if, I think if I didn't have that in my life, 13:28 the strength of God in my life, 13:31 I would not be able to 13:34 go about my daily business at work. 13:39 And we talk to each other all the time 13:41 about what's going on in the world 13:43 and how... 13:45 It seems people don't have the faith 13:46 they should have. 13:48 And people ask me all the time. 13:49 Aren't you scared to work with? 13:51 No, I'm not. No. 13:52 I have no fear of it. Come on now. 13:54 I have no fear. 13:55 but of power and sound mind. That is correct. 13:57 Do you a have a buddy called like 13:59 if something happens to you, 14:01 you check in with each other at certain times? 14:03 Always. For sure. 14:04 That has been for a long time. First thing in the morning. 14:06 Check in. That's right. 14:07 Okay. 14:09 We know we're each not only do we know where each other 14:12 is, we know where our children are. 14:17 We have a strong foundation and our children, 14:21 we build that foundation with them. 14:24 My daughter lived in Europe for a while, 14:27 and that was hard. 14:29 When she was in college, she said, mother, 14:31 I'm the only one that talk to her parent every day. 14:35 I have another one. 14:36 Every day. Every day. 14:37 I said, If I had... You need to take my cell phone. 14:39 That's right. 14:40 If I had 10 children, 14:42 I would speak to each one every day. 14:43 And this is the same thing with her two sons. 14:46 And we communicate with our children. 14:49 And that's the key with us is communicating 14:52 with our other siblings. 14:54 Yes. 14:55 And I think the bond that we have, 14:57 we've given that, or the kids see that, 15:00 and they have been with each other 15:03 and their cousins. 15:04 I'm sorry. They're cousins. 15:05 Are your sons twins? 15:07 No. All right. 15:08 So no twins. No twins. 15:09 No. 15:11 Okay, you know, so that bond is there 15:13 because from generation, see now this is something 15:16 you're going to have generational curses 15:18 which I feel are generational choices 15:21 and then having that bond with God 15:23 to pass on to our children and grandchildren. 15:28 See people say, ah, that's just tradition. 15:30 No, that's a foundation 15:32 that's been, you have it laid by our families. 15:36 You know, you think about slavery 15:38 and all that our ancestors went through. 15:41 Remember they weren't allowed to read, 15:43 but they could sing the old folk hymns swing low, 15:47 sweet chariot, coming forth to carry me home. 15:50 Amen. Amen. 15:51 Amen. 15:53 But those were codes, 15:54 you know, for, so journey is on her way back. 15:57 You, you know, you need to make sure 15:59 you're at that pole, that place 16:01 where she is going to get you. 16:03 And I remember hearing a song 16:05 and it was just, you know, amazing grace, 16:08 you know, how sweet the sound. 16:10 So that same grace that God 16:12 has given you to, He's protected you. 16:14 Oh, yes. 16:16 Covered you, kept you close. 16:18 Have you ever not spoken? 16:21 You got mad at each other said, you know, a day? 16:23 Oh, yeah, for sure. 16:24 No. Five minutes. 16:25 Five minutes. 16:27 That's as long as it's gone, five minutes, it won't last? 16:29 No. 16:31 And if our children find out we've had a disagreement, 16:33 they call the other one. 16:35 Oh, yes. 16:36 They're in the business. 16:38 Her sons, hey, just checking on you. 16:40 Why? 16:42 Why? What was going on? 16:44 But they know if my daughter called me 16:47 and I don't sound the same, 16:51 she'll ask what's going on. 16:52 And even if I don't share with her 16:55 that I've had a disagreement with my sister, 16:56 she's calling my sister. 16:58 That's right. 16:59 Is all over, there's something wrong, 17:00 something not right? Absolutely. 17:03 You know, in the morning when I wake up, 17:05 I have worship. 17:06 I have devotion. I talk with God. 17:08 And when if my cell phone starts going off 17:11 and different things, I have to tell people 17:13 I need that moment or I cut it off. 17:16 Some people I had to block, 17:18 I've to literally block 17:19 because if I hear the phone buzzing, 17:21 it distracts me. 17:23 That's that kind of bond that, 17:25 you know, God wants us to have with Him, 17:27 that connection that if we're not connected, 17:30 something is off balance, 17:33 because you haven't talked to me today. 17:34 You haven't spent time with me. 17:36 I'm your Lord and savior. 17:38 I woke you up this morning, 17:39 started you on your way, you know? 17:42 So in that recognizing, now my dear sister, 17:45 you are interior designer. 17:47 I love the color, the patterns, 17:49 you know, and you've also designed 17:52 rooms or homes for celebrities, 17:55 you know, how... 17:56 Do you have to travel a lot? 17:58 Not yet. Okay. 18:00 I actually retired 18:03 as a logistics engineer a year ago, 18:06 Tell us what that is? 18:07 Tell us a little bit about that? 18:08 A logistics engineer, 18:10 I worked for United Parcel Service, 18:14 but I managed outbound for Ford Motor Company. 18:18 So when the vehicles leave the plant 18:21 until they get to the dealerships 18:23 all over the world. 18:25 So that was, 18:26 that was very different from what I'm doing now. 18:29 I retired early. 18:31 I went back to school years ago, 18:32 got a degree in interior design. 18:36 And just to back up a little bit, 18:37 when my daughter was in high school, 18:39 we had started having conversations about her future. 18:43 You know, what do you want to, 18:44 what profession do you want to go into? 18:47 And she told me she, one day she said, mother, 18:49 what do you want to do when you grow up? 18:51 And I was shocked. 18:53 Wait a minute, your daughter asked you? 18:55 My daughter asked me, 18:56 what do you want to do when you grow up? 18:58 She said, what you're doing now is what you have to do. 19:02 So I started thinking about it. 19:03 I always wanted to become an interior designer. 19:06 So I started taking steps. 19:08 I went back to school, got a degree. 19:12 And that's what I'm doing now. 19:13 Proud of you. 19:15 Thank you. I'm proud of you. 19:16 You know, let's talk about that as women 19:18 let's go there for a second? 19:19 Sure. Why are women stuck? 19:22 Why won't they make those transitions 19:24 and a paradigm shift? 19:26 What is going on? 19:28 It's not easy. 19:30 We get so caught up into working. 19:33 I had to step out on faith. 19:36 And it was a lot of prayer, 19:37 a lot of conversations with my sister. 19:40 I went to school for four years 19:42 and she was there with me, 19:44 you know, it'd be late nights 19:45 and she would have to help me to bed 19:48 because I was exhausted. 19:50 My goodness. Exhausted. 19:51 So she went through it with me, 19:53 but it's, it takes faith. 19:59 What that term stepping out on faith. 20:01 It really do. 20:03 My daughter, after she graduated from college, 20:06 she had to, you know, she thought 20:08 she was going to automatically land 20:11 that career, that job. 20:13 And she didn't. 20:14 And I talked her through that over the years. 20:17 She's just getting to where she has her, 20:19 what she calls a big girl job. 20:21 Big girl job. 20:22 And I'm doing the same thing. Oh, yes. 20:24 The same thing. 20:25 But I had a plan and I did my best. 20:29 Of course, it's all in God's hands, 20:32 you know, but I did my part. 20:34 Yes. 20:35 My grandmother used to say, man makes plans, 20:37 but God makes decisions. 20:38 Absolutely. 20:40 So, you know, faith is a substance of things 20:42 hoped for, evidence of things not seen. 20:44 But you, he said, I'll give you desires of your heart, 20:47 set up a plan, write it out, 20:50 get the blue, but God's blueprint is there, 20:53 but we must turn it over to the Lord. 20:56 And I agree with you, it's, 20:57 we have to put everything in God's hands. 20:59 Absolutely. 21:00 You know, I started getting speech pathology, 21:02 loved it because I had several speech impediments 21:05 and I wanted to understand more. 21:07 So I went to school for it, loved it. 21:10 Well, I, somehow I got transitioned 21:13 into counseling. 21:15 And I was like, well, 21:16 talking to people, counseling people. 21:19 And so they said, well, 21:21 what do you want to do your master's in? 21:22 And I said, 21:23 he said, well, do you want to do your PhD in? 21:25 And I was like, whoever said, I want to do and all that. 21:28 And next thing I know, well, we have a dual program. 21:30 I said, what's that? 21:32 Well, you can do your master's PhD, PhD. 21:34 I said, well, how many is that? A hundred? 21:37 And next thing I knew, God shifted me 21:40 because I had my own personal pain. 21:42 They say, we tend to pursue degrees that help us 21:46 filter through our pain. 21:47 And so here I am, 21:49 but this is all God from 3ABN Dare to Dream. 21:53 This is all God. 21:56 Being a therapist is all God, 21:58 you know, but being I love fashion. 22:01 I love shoes. 22:02 I love, you know, doing all 22:03 because it was given to us by my grandmother and mother 22:06 and our family. 22:07 But I know interior design is not my calling, 22:11 but it's my cousin Karen's calling. 22:13 I just had a fire in my home 22:15 and it went from wood, nothing to amazing. 22:20 So looking at all that God has done, 22:23 looking at all that God is doing for you. 22:27 What's next for you both? 22:30 Well, we're both writing books. 22:32 My book is about our life story, 22:35 our childhood from trauma to now, 22:39 you know, and how God brought us out of it. 22:42 He's always been there for us. 22:44 And so we were talking about it. 22:46 It's painful some days getting those memories, 22:51 but just as I told the twin, it's going to help somebody. 22:54 It's gonna help somebody. 22:56 Can you talk a little bit about your trauma? 22:58 What happened? 22:59 Well, my mom was 16. 23:04 She had just turned 16. 23:05 She had given birth to us. 23:08 She wasn't ready. 23:10 And she had a place on the west side of Detroit. 23:14 And let's back up, 23:16 imagine yourself, walking down the street 23:19 and something catches your eye 23:22 and you look up a two family flat 23:25 and you see a child with her head stuck 23:27 between the railing 23:30 and you go to go get that child, 23:32 but then you try to see what the child is looking at. 23:34 She's looking at another child crawling in the street. 23:37 Well, I was the child on the second floor 23:39 and Annette was the child in the street. 23:42 And so that was, 23:45 I guess our first trauma, you know, we were, 23:48 and Annette was always the go getter. 23:50 So I guess she was trying to find help. 23:54 We were about 10 months old. 23:55 We weren't quite walking yet. 23:58 And that was the first trauma. 23:59 And I think that's what we've always had each other. 24:02 We cling to each other. 24:04 And so that was the beginning of it. 24:07 And these are some of the things 24:09 that I have in my book, you know. 24:11 So we chose, we always choose 24:14 to walk with God that keeps us out of, 24:17 you know, we could have went a different way, 24:20 but it's, we're always winning, 24:22 you know, with a positive look about things. 24:26 And so that's some of the things that 24:32 that are in the book. 24:33 You know, you look at you, you look amazing, 24:37 you know, you look, your spirit is beautiful. 24:40 I don't see hardiness. 24:42 I see humility. I see kindness. 24:45 I see such a sensitivity, you know, you're just, 24:48 I feel my heart is so overwhelmed right now. 24:51 And I just thank God, 24:53 and for you all to have gone through that. 24:55 Oh, yeah, you know. It's just one thing. 24:58 Yeah. 25:01 We've been kidnapped three times. 25:03 What? 25:04 Three different situations we were in. 25:06 We were taken away from my mom 25:08 and we ended up in what do you call orphanage? 25:12 DJ Hayley. What? 25:14 You remember she was young. 25:16 Yeah. Yeah. 25:17 And so my grandmother adopted us 25:20 and that's how we ended up with my grandmother, 25:23 but my mom, she would get into trouble. 25:26 And that's where the kidnappings came 25:28 because she owed people money 25:31 and they would find those twins and kidnap us. 25:35 What? Yeah. 25:36 I can remember going to the store 25:38 for my grandmother once 25:39 and know we were so naive. 25:41 We're just birds, watching the butterflies 25:44 and the guy grabbed us 25:46 and threw us in the back of the limousine. 25:48 And we could hear it. That's when they had payphones. 25:50 We could hear him talking to my grandmother 25:51 saying, bring the money 25:53 or we're going to get these twins, you know? 25:55 And so, it's things like that. 25:57 I always tell people we've been through it. 26:00 I didn't say we were unscathed. 26:02 You know, we've been through it and we've been, 26:04 you know we have issues, 26:06 but we have God. 26:07 We've been covered a long time. 26:09 A long time, 26:10 while I was on that second floor, 26:12 and she was crawling to the street. 26:14 He always had His hands on us. 26:16 Always. That's right. 26:17 And we're thankful. 26:19 And you're thankful. That's the key. 26:20 You're both very thankful. 26:21 We have a little time left. 26:23 You know, what can you say 26:25 to women out there who may be envious 26:28 or jealous of their sisters, 26:30 or have hardened their heart against their sibling? 26:33 What can you say to, say to somebody just, 26:36 you know, come together? 26:38 Oh, learn from each other. 26:40 We share everything. Yes. 26:42 And we're so thankful 26:45 to have the relationship that we do as twins. 26:48 It's unique. 26:49 Our twin friends, same thing, 26:51 just this abundance of love, agape love. 26:55 And we share it with everybody that we talk to, 26:59 everybody that we interact with, 27:00 everybody that we touch and for women, 27:04 she talked about the books that we're writing. 27:06 I'm writing about the five generations 27:08 of the women in my family. 27:10 And then the lessons learned. 27:11 And that's what we have to do is learn from each other. 27:14 It's so much. It's so much. 27:17 I mean, I can't believe we're down to our last minute. 27:20 All I can say is I thank you both 27:23 for coming on Live To Be Well, and 27:25 we're going to keep this relationship. 27:27 Would that be all right? Oh, yes. 27:29 You know, I would love to sit down with you 27:32 and hear more about your experiences 27:34 and what you've gone through. 27:37 I want to thank them both for being here, 27:39 but I'm hoping that you gained so much 27:42 by viewing this broadcast today, 27:44 that this program will help you 27:47 to bridge the gap with your sibling. 27:49 Pick up the phone right now, call your sister, 27:52 call your brother, call your parent. 27:54 If they're still living, you're blessed 27:56 and let them know it's all right. 27:58 Let's forgive each other and let's move forward 28:01 because if you're not living well, 28:03 you can't live to be well. 28:05 I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, and God bless. |
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