Live to Be Well

Financial Accountability

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00:35 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, and welcome to Live to Be Well.
00:40 What is live to be well?
00:42 Mind, body, and soul, but without God,
00:45 we are nothing.
00:47 He helps us to be complete in our better health
00:50 and our wellness.
00:51 Today, I have a very special guest
00:53 because she's not only a friend,
00:56 but she's my personal accountant.
00:59 I want to welcome Mrs. Nicole Kirkland.
01:02 Welcome, Nicole. Thank you.
01:03 Thank you very much. How are you dear?
01:05 Oh, great. Good.
01:06 I've been doing pretty good having that?
01:08 Yes, real. Oh, yes. All right.
01:09 You look awesome. All right.
01:11 And what I mean is, you know, sometimes I was run
01:13 a little late getting my taxes filed.
01:15 So let's talk about what is a CPA?
01:19 A Certified Public Accountant
01:21 is much like a doctor who is licensed
01:23 with the state to perform their practice.
01:25 Yes.
01:26 So I'm licensed with the State
01:28 of Michigan to perform accounting services.
01:29 And those services can include audits,
01:31 any attestation services, you know, bookkeeping,
01:35 tax preparation, which you don't need a CPA for,
01:37 but it just gives you that stamp of approval
01:39 that I've gone through all the rigorous training
01:41 and classes and stay...
01:43 All of that. Right.
01:45 Now, let me ask how long have you been in
01:47 the accounting field?
01:48 And why did you feel that God led
01:50 you to the accounting field?
01:52 I've been in accounting for 27 years.
01:54 Twenty-seven years. You look 27.
01:57 Thank you very much. I started in high school.
02:00 Oh, really?
02:01 Yeah, I was fortunate enough to kind of fall in love with it
02:03 as an elective in high school.
02:04 Is that right?
02:06 And I've always known that I wanted to be in accounting.
02:08 Nicole, you know, I took accounting in high school,
02:10 it just didn't do anything for me.
02:12 I just loved it. You love it.
02:13 Pretty knows the numbers.
02:15 Now I love doing my numbers statistically,
02:17 I love statistics.
02:19 I love the bell curve, I love doing all of that.
02:21 Okay.
02:23 But accounting itself, you know,
02:24 and, but I like playing with a machine,
02:26 you know, the calculator.
02:28 Yeah...
02:30 So you are numbers I'm numbers Counting
02:31 just a little bit of different.
02:32 Right.
02:34 Those columns just kind of you all list in,
02:35 you know, line item, budgets all that.
02:37 Right.
02:38 So why is it so challenging for us as individuals to stay
02:44 on top of our accounting
02:45 and meet with you like people like me,
02:48 sometimes back in the day.
02:49 Right. 'Cause you're perfect now.
02:51 All right.
02:52 What I find a lot is that business owners are so
02:54 focused on their niche.
02:56 Yes.
02:57 What they started the business for,
02:59 the big dream of making their dreams come true.
03:01 So they're focused on the everyday technical side.
03:04 And a lot of business owners don't realize the importance
03:06 of accounting because to me, if you think about it,
03:09 it's the spine of the business.
03:11 Accounting gives you so much knowledge
03:13 as to if you're making a profit or loss.
03:16 If your profit margin is enough for you to cover your expenses,
03:19 if your cost to your point prices,
03:20 is that okay amount for you to be able to make a profit.
03:24 Wow!
03:25 And that's why I love it so much because there's a power
03:27 in understanding that.
03:28 Now I have a nonprofit and profit business.
03:32 Correct. What is the difference?
03:34 So the nonprofit it is own entity, of course,
03:38 it has no tax obligation, if you will.
03:41 The monies that come in, you know, back in the day,
03:43 it was, if the monies come in, the monies come out,
03:45 your balance zero, but that's not the case today.
03:47 Right.
03:49 Nonprofits can have a surplus because the goal
03:50 is to reinvest those funds back into the mission
03:52 of the organization.
03:54 Right.
03:55 So that's the difference between that nonprofit
03:56 just to keep it "not so technical," or for profit side,
03:59 you're in it to make money.
04:00 Okay. Right.
04:02 So your whole goal is to make a profit.
04:03 Yes. Yes. Capitalism at its finest.
04:06 You know, there's just different ways
04:07 that it's treated tax wise,
04:08 you will pay a tax on your profit.
04:10 Yes.
04:11 And your losses, you don't get a refund
04:13 like you do individual, but you do carry it forward,
04:14 and there are some benefits.
04:16 Okay.
04:17 So it's just a different treatment tax wise.
04:19 We had a client who came in and questioned you and said,
04:23 this is not adding up right,
04:25 you know, were they angry with you?
04:27 Oh, yeah. And if so, you go through that?
04:29 Yeah. I'm loved and I'm hated.
04:31 Oh. There's no in between.
04:32 But the numbers don't lie, numbers...
04:35 That's always my go-to. Yes.
04:37 Is that the numbers don't lie.
04:39 And that's the importance of being able to look
04:40 at someone's balance sheet.
04:41 Look at someone's profit and loss statement
04:43 and say, "Well, here's your problem."
04:45 But they can't see it.
04:47 So it takes not a CPA
04:49 and won't say specifically a CPA
04:50 but somebody that understands
04:52 what the financials are saying to explain it to the owner.
04:55 I understand.
04:56 You say that you love it,
04:58 you know, but it can be also stressful.
05:00 Oh, yes.
05:01 How in the field of financial accountability?
05:04 Why does it bring stress to you as a CPA
05:08 and to us who are coming to you as clients?
05:11 A lot of times as a certified accountant,
05:15 we take on the stresses of the people
05:17 that we work with.
05:19 It's just a compassion, a type of empathy,
05:22 empathy, if you will
05:24 that we have to learn to separate ourselves from that
05:28 and just focus on the resolution.
05:29 Yes.
05:31 And that, in turn, gives stress relief
05:32 to the client
05:34 as well as myself.
05:35 And I would have find is that I tend to take
05:37 my client's issues home with me
05:39 'cause I'm always in resolution mode.
05:40 Yes.
05:42 You know, that's part of what I do.
05:43 Yes.
05:44 And so that's where my stress comes from.
05:46 I hate for clients to, oh,
05:47 I hate for there to be stress in their lives
05:48 worrying about a situation.
05:50 So a lot of times me just having a session with them
05:53 brings that relief of the stress.
05:55 And then for me, like I said,
05:56 just kind of disassociating myself,
05:59 focusing on a resolution.
06:00 I can relate 'cause when I walk out that door
06:02 I still take that with me and take it home with me.
06:06 And I was exhausted leaving yesterday,
06:10 but I had several phone sessions to do
06:12 as Skype sessions to do
06:14 because people were in need.
06:16 So I'm always looking
06:17 for that resolution for them also.
06:19 Check and balance,
06:21 what is the best advice you can give us
06:23 how to be effective in our checking and balance?
06:27 You know, let's talk numbers here.
06:29 All right. Okay.
06:31 Help us. The core of it.
06:34 And I know that sounds clich,, is living within your means.
06:38 That is the core of it because you have to look at
06:42 where your money's going, cash flow as well.
06:45 Okay. Your cash flow.
06:47 All right.
06:48 What's coming in and what's going out,
06:49 and then look at where it's going out to.
06:51 Yes.
06:53 Look at that cell phone bill, look at that cable bill.
06:56 Yes.
06:57 What I say is be cost-effective.
06:59 Yeah.
07:00 And then you leave room what we call discretionary income,
07:02 to put towards savings.
07:04 And I never call savings an emergency fund
07:07 because I believe in what you speak is
07:09 kind of what you put out there.
07:10 So if you're saying you're saving for an emergency,
07:12 what's going to happen?
07:14 You're going to bring an emergency.
07:15 So I just always call it saving for a travel.
07:19 This is my travel, I have multiple accounts,
07:21 I have a travel fund,
07:22 I have just a regular savings fund
07:24 just to meet those unexpected type of things.
07:26 And even if you're just putting aside $20,
07:29 as you grow up to $50, and just on and on and on,
07:32 as it becomes more valuable to you,
07:34 you start to see the money grow.
07:36 It'll become an ongoing thing,
07:39 but the core of it is controlling
07:41 what you're spinning out.
07:42 Yes.
07:44 And that's what's individual that's what business...
07:45 That's everything.
07:46 Controlling your costs
07:48 and leaving that discretionary income and doing
07:49 something valuable with it.
07:51 Yes.
07:52 I won't say put, the typical answer
07:53 is put it in a bank.
07:55 But in a bank, you're going to get 1 to 2%.
07:57 Right.
07:58 So you have to be researching,
07:59 you have to be looking for other vehicles
08:01 that are going to get to that more percent.
08:02 All right. Even if its...
08:04 Credit union maybe?
08:05 Not so. No?
08:07 Still that 1 or 2%. Really?
08:08 They take our money and they invest it,
08:10 and they get 12%, 24% based off,
08:12 and we're getting 1 to 2%.
08:14 Wow. So it's a shuffle.
08:16 That's a whole another lesson,
08:19 but there are vehicles money market accounts,
08:22 working with financial planners,
08:23 which is separate from an accountant,
08:25 that can put your money in growth funds
08:27 that can get you that 24% over,
08:29 you know, a number of years.
08:31 So there's different things you can do,
08:32 but you have to be researching.
08:33 You have to be asking the questions.
08:35 You can't trust that our economy,
08:37 our administration is looking out for our best interest
08:39 'cause they're not.
08:41 They are not looking at our best interest, no,
08:42 they want to make money.
08:44 Exactly.
08:45 'Cause I've had clients to come to me
08:47 heavy in financial debt.
08:49 And now the stress and anxiety is there.
08:52 Yes.
08:53 Nicole, can we talk about cash advance locations,
08:56 when people go to those places, is that a danger trap?
09:00 It's definitely a danger trap.
09:02 I mean, the whole system is set up to keep you in debt,
09:04 and to keep you coming back into this cycle of paying off
09:07 the debt, and then taking the debt back out,
09:09 adding almost like 99% interest
09:12 as you try to pay it off over time.
09:14 So it's a horrible cycle that people get caught up in.
09:17 What about people who are overdrawn,
09:20 and then they have to pay those bank fees?
09:23 How can we help them, again, living within your means,
09:27 balancing your checkbook?
09:29 So what can we do as a community to look
09:32 at our accountability to our finances and being overdrawn?
09:36 Right.
09:38 You really have to zone in on your money.
09:39 I'm one of those people when I wake up in the morning
09:42 besides my everyday routine, I'm looking at my money.
09:44 I'm looking at my account.
09:46 I'm looking at my wallet and I'm arranging my money
09:47 and know how much I have for the day.
09:49 Very meticulous.
09:51 So you have to almost get to that point
09:53 because once you overdraw, which the bank wants
09:56 you to overdraw because think about it,
09:58 that's $36 per transaction.
10:00 And they have a setup in a way where they'll cover the largest
10:03 item first, which takes your account to pretty much zero,
10:08 and then whatever else comes in after that they tapped
10:10 you for that $36, right?
10:13 And you can call, and you can ask for leniency,
10:16 but they're mostly going to take off as one charge
10:18 'cause that's how they make their money.
10:20 Their money is made off of interest and fees.
10:22 And fees.
10:24 What about purchases, large purchases,
10:25 like cars or homes and, you know, RVs, boats,
10:30 you know, what should we do,
10:32 you know, when we take out a loan taken out loans?
10:35 Was this loan personal or is it business?
10:37 Yes, personal or even business, but let's start personal loans.
10:40 So anytime you're dealing with loans or financing,
10:43 you want to negotiate the interest rate,
10:45 you want to negotiate how much you're putting down
10:48 because if you can control your monthly payment
10:50 and make that as low as possible, again,
10:51 controlling costs, you can get that interest rate
10:55 down to the lowest that you can possibly
10:56 get with it is negotiable.
10:58 Just because they gave you a piece of paper
10:59 and says this is what we're offering you.
11:01 They want to sell as much as you do.
11:02 Right. Right. Right?
11:04 So you counteroffer, hey, interest rates too high.
11:07 You know, my credit, even if your credits not,
11:10 you know, where they say it should be for you to get
11:12 a certain interest rate, they're still negotiable.
11:14 Yeah.
11:15 So just take your buying power,
11:17 you will and ask some questions,
11:19 and don't just take what they give you.
11:21 What about refinancing?
11:22 You have a home, you have a high interest rate,
11:24 same thing called the bank,
11:26 let them know that you want to refinance at a lower rate?
11:30 That would definitely never refinance for a higher rate
11:32 that alleviates the whole purpose
11:35 of the refinance, right?
11:37 So if they're not offering you a lower rate,
11:38 or putting in some type of other incentive for you,
11:41 it's not worth the refy.
11:42 I see, I see, you know,
11:45 recognizing that teaching our children at an early age,
11:50 can we talk about that?
11:51 Yes.
11:52 How important is for us to train up a child
11:54 in a way to go when he is older shall not depart.
11:56 That's the Word of God. Yes.
11:58 We can't help us to train our children about finances.
12:02 There's so much out there now
12:04 about bringing up our kids understand money.
12:08 I will say to start off,
12:09 help them understand the monetary system
12:12 of our world and how it's set up.
12:13 That's the key.
12:15 Even as an adult, once you understand that piece,
12:17 it makes you think totally different.
12:19 Yes.
12:20 About everything you do because the whole trap is debt.
12:23 Our kids go to college to get these credit cards. Why?
12:26 Because they want to start them in the cycle of debt.
12:29 You come out of school owing loans, right?
12:32 Got to find a job, can't find a job,
12:33 but you still owe that student loan.
12:35 And, I mean, so
12:37 just helping them understand debt
12:39 and not getting caught up in debt
12:41 and understanding how to make their money work for them.
12:42 Your money, I always say does what you tell it to do.
12:45 All right, I like that. It does what you tell it to do.
12:48 You see, we're telling you to save it,
12:50 you're telling it to work for you.
12:51 You're telling it, you know, that's where accounting all
12:53 comes in to me because it helps you respect money.
12:55 Respect money. I like that.
12:58 So that's where I will start,
12:59 but it's so essential for our kids to know now.
13:02 Because they have the,
13:03 I want this, I want this mentality.
13:06 So we have to teach them how to budget their money.
13:08 For our next generation. Yeah.
13:10 Do we still do allowances?
13:11 I'm trying to think
13:13 I gave my children allowances.
13:15 I have not done that with my daughter,
13:16 but I thought about creating a job for her.
13:18 A job?
13:20 At home so that she can understand
13:22 that it takes work to make money,
13:24 you know, so often, we want to give to our kids
13:26 what we didn't have or,
13:28 you know, but that just stumps them now.
13:31 I have millennials that work for me
13:33 and I'm just like...
13:36 So yeah, so it's very important now.
13:38 I would say take it very seriously
13:40 and teaching our kids now,
13:41 but first learn yourself.
13:42 Right.
13:44 I know, I was doing some moving
13:45 of some merchandise with my store.
13:48 And Aaron said,
13:49 "Can we negotiate a salary for this?"
13:52 I was very impressed. That's impressive.
13:54 Very impressive.
13:56 So I made one offer and she counter offer this.
13:59 That's beautiful.
14:00 And so I said, and she said,
14:01 this is not negotiable
14:03 'cause you need my muscles to move all of this.
14:06 And she did a great job that day.
14:08 So when you see her name, you know why.
14:10 That's awesome.
14:12 But I really was impressed of that she sees me.
14:14 Another thing that I do when I'm looking at my finances
14:18 and I checked my account every day.
14:21 Why is that important?
14:23 Why is it important to check your 'cause the bank
14:25 can make a mistake.
14:26 Exactly. Yes.
14:28 The bank can make a mistake or someone that's taken money out
14:30 of your account could have made a mistake or duplicate payment.
14:34 And also there's a lot of trust out there.
14:36 That these companies and businesses are doing
14:37 what they're supposed to do with your money.
14:39 There's tons of mistakes.
14:41 That's why you have the credit reporting agencies
14:43 correcting things on your credit report,
14:46 you know, because so much can happen.
14:48 So if your eyes are on your money,
14:50 it's always going to be better.
14:52 Why are people afraid to check their credit scores?
14:55 I used to be like that. They make it so...
14:59 They make it such a failure type feeling
15:04 if your credit score is not above what is it?
15:06 Seven. Eight fifty now. What is it?
15:08 And I mean, so if your credit score is saying 420,
15:11 they make you feel like you just are not worth living
15:15 the life, you're unworthy, you know,
15:17 you're just horrible at finances, when really,
15:19 it's just an opportunity for you to correct it.
15:21 Credit reports can be corrected.
15:23 You can build up your credit score by just
15:24 doing small changes.
15:26 Is that right? In a short amount of time.
15:28 You've helped me do that 'cause I...
15:30 And Micah and Erin, my daughter was saying,
15:32 "Mom, did you check your credit report this week?"
15:33 And I was like, "No." "Mom check it."
15:37 And then it will be going up, up, up, up,
15:40 you know, but the one thing I've done,
15:43 I have also stop, I mean, I buy things here and there,
15:46 but I don't shop.
15:48 Remember I had that trap.
15:49 The shopping living over my means.
15:52 And you help me with that.
15:53 And you will say that loving wherever, you know,
15:56 check and balancing, you're trying to run a business,
15:59 you're not gonna be around in 10 years because you're not
16:02 saving, you're not investing, you're not doing what is right.
16:06 And then, you know, the one thing I have learned,
16:10 when you send me an invoice,
16:12 I make sure that I pay you.
16:14 I appreciate that. I know you do.
16:16 And people sometimes feel
16:18 and as professions that we this is our,
16:21 you know, well, that's your ministry,
16:23 but it's our profession.
16:25 And I respect that.
16:26 And people tend to feel like you don't need your money
16:29 'cause you're the accountant.
16:31 Right. But you need your money also.
16:33 I do. I do.
16:34 You know, now are you your own accountant,
16:36 or do you send your work out your own personal
16:39 and business out to someone else?
16:41 I do my own.
16:42 But I've been told by peers that I should not.
16:45 Okay.
16:46 It's like me trying to counsel myself.
16:48 Right. It's like having a second set of eyes.
16:50 I don't want to see what I want to see,
16:52 but that I think I know.
16:53 Yes.
16:54 You know what I mean. So I'm getting to that point.
16:56 There's a trust issue there, but I'm just getting to that.
16:58 I understand.
16:59 It took me a long time to find a good therapist to help
17:02 my daughters and I.
17:04 And someone that I could feel comfortable with
17:07 'cause of the work that I do.
17:08 Right.
17:09 Let's talk about how you balance,
17:12 you know, your work hours in that office.
17:15 I've come by and even your husband
17:18 has taken my yellow envelope.
17:19 All right? Right.
17:21 You text me,
17:22 "Come on, Dr. Logan, my husband is there."
17:23 You know, is he an accountant? No.
17:27 But he helps you. He's in social work.
17:29 He's a social worker.
17:30 He help, ma'am sit there.
17:33 So but he helps you in your business?
17:35 Yes. That's beautiful.
17:37 Sharing that together. Right.
17:39 So how does he handle
17:40 when he sees the stress in you 'cause tax time is coming?
17:44 Is it that January to April or does it start about now?
17:48 It's ongoing for me. Ongoing.
17:50 It's ongoing for me 'cause I do...
17:51 I am still full-time employed. Yes.
17:54 I'm a chief financial officer for nonprofit in Detroit.
17:57 And I love that position.
17:58 I have not been able to let it go
18:00 because it's for a great cause and doing what I love to do.
18:03 And then I have my practice which I gave 100% to both.
18:07 So life is crazy.
18:09 And I'm blessed to have someone that understands that.
18:12 And he tries to be a part of that
18:14 and help me even with our daughter,
18:16 he takes one on that primary role,
18:18 if you will, in those times where I am running around,
18:21 my head cut off trying to take care of everything.
18:23 So a good teammate with your vision
18:27 makes life less stressful.
18:28 That is the truth.
18:30 In accounting, let's go back to accounting for a minute,
18:33 people always ask the question I can do it myself,
18:37 it's just balancing the books, or I can get a program
18:40 or I can do it by internet.
18:42 Give us some advice about that, please?
18:45 There's a lot out there.
18:47 There's a lot of online classes,
18:49 there's a lot of QuickBook training courses
18:52 or QuickBooks software that kind of makes you feel
18:54 like if you put the numbers in, it kicks out what do you need.
18:57 And I can say that my clients that do that on their own,
19:01 it takes me extra time to fix the numbers,
19:06 fix the errors, right?
19:08 And then present to them what the actual numbers are.
19:11 So it puts more work on me, if you will
19:13 because there's not...
19:14 There wouldn't be a accounting profession
19:17 if there wasn't certain things that just needed to be known
19:20 through education and experience as it were.
19:22 And let me say when I met Mrs. Kirkland,
19:25 my taxes were a mess
19:29 'cause I trusted the wrong person
19:32 to do my accounting,
19:34 and they were CPA,
19:36 but they did not, they were not effective.
19:39 And yet I'm paying this person all this money.
19:42 And the next thing I know
19:43 Internal Revenue Service is knocking.
19:46 And I did not want to go to jail.
19:50 And I think the gentleman was like,
19:52 we know you're not doing anything you did not know,
19:56 but we have to fix this and you have to pay this penalty.
20:00 And I say, "But I didn't do this."
20:03 And they said, "But your name on these tax forms."
20:05 Exactly. "You signed these forms."
20:08 So when I met you, you came in, you looked,
20:11 you didn't say, I can't help you, you took it.
20:14 I mean, boxes and boxes of things.
20:18 And we got it straightened out, and there was a penalty.
20:21 And we paid it.
20:22 And I think this past year, I had a penalty.
20:25 And I called, you and said, "Nicole!"
20:27 And you said,
20:28 "It could have been a lot worse.
20:30 Pay it, Dr. Kim."
20:32 And so that we're current. Right.
20:34 And I was so happy and what I love about you,
20:37 anytime I get anything, I don't understand.
20:40 You say fax it to me. Let me look at it first.
20:43 Don't sign it, don't send it in.
20:45 Don't do anything. Let me look at it first.
20:47 And you go over and beyond.
20:49 And I know what you do for me.
20:50 So I can imagine all your other clients,
20:53 but I have that same spirit now.
20:54 And I believe this is why,
20:57 you know, God brought you into my life.
20:59 I know it for a fact.
21:01 And you have to have a sense of patience,
21:04 you have a lot of patience.
21:05 You have a lot with me.
21:08 And you would email me.
21:11 And you would say, "Dr. Kim, I'm missing."
21:15 You know, I look at the list.
21:17 I didn't send you that.
21:18 It'll be like ten things on the list.
21:20 And I was like, "Okay, let me go look for everything."
21:23 So now what I've done when things come in,
21:25 I put them in a file.
21:27 Awesome.
21:28 And so when all those things come in,
21:29 and so all I have to do is just bring them right to you.
21:32 Yes. Yes. That's perfect.
21:33 So I don't just lay them in a kitchen drawer anymore,
21:36 or lay them in that bowl.
21:37 I keep it all organized because when I see taxes,
21:42 or I see that coming in,
21:44 I know this is serious business.
21:47 Why do people end up in jail,
21:49 and they have the money to pay their taxes?
21:52 Why do they avoid paying taxes?
21:55 What I find is that there's a fear factor there.
21:59 The fear factor is to know how much first
22:01 of all you owe in taxes 'cause you think
22:04 why people are trying to survive on their W2
22:06 they're claiming 8 to 10 exemptions.
22:10 So they're getting most of their money
22:11 and are paying enough withholding.
22:13 They know this.
22:14 So by the end of the year, that whole tax is like,
22:16 yeah, I put it off until
22:18 I'll extend it till not realizing
22:20 even if you extended the money, the due date,
22:23 the interest goes back to April 15.
22:25 Wow.
22:26 Some, a lot of people don't know that.
22:27 They didn't. I didn't know that.
22:29 And then there's bad advice from other people.
22:31 And then just on a business perspective,
22:33 you don't know if you made a profit or loss
22:35 'cause you have a box of receipts that someone has to go
22:37 through and prepare your profit and loss
22:39 statement to tell you whether or not you owe or not,
22:42 and getting all those documents together
22:45 and organizing that takes time.
22:46 So that procrastination sets in.
22:48 I really again, let me say, I've become more organized,
22:52 more discipline, more meticulous about
22:55 having things in order because your time is valuable.
22:58 And when I bring you that envelope to you,
23:01 everything is in order.
23:03 And I like it too.
23:05 I look at it is January, February, March,
23:08 April because when you open it, it's like,
23:11 I don't want your stress level to go up.
23:14 And you care about me.
23:16 And I know you're not gonna pick up the phone and say,
23:18 you're gonna, you know, filter through it, but I know better.
23:23 And when you know better, you should do better.
23:26 And so with that, we need to do better with our finances.
23:30 We need to live within our means.
23:32 We need to sacrifice if you can,
23:36 having a certified public accountant to help you work
23:40 through your difficulty.
23:42 Check your credit scores on how often should we do that?
23:46 I would say annually. Okay.
23:48 Unless you're in the process of trying to buy a home
23:50 or like set a car, and you got out or working
23:53 on your credit to build it up.
23:55 You could check it more through the year,
23:56 but annually, it's pretty good.
23:58 Okay.
23:59 What if have you have some money
24:01 and you'd like to give it away before April 15?
24:05 How does a person go about being,
24:07 you know, giving charitable funds to someone?
24:10 If you want it to count towards your taxes,
24:12 you do it before 12/31.
24:14 12/31 before the end of year. Yeah.
24:16 Got it. Yeah.
24:18 Charitable donations have to be in the year of the tax.
24:20 I see.
24:21 So there'll be Salvation Army taking a bunch of items,
24:23 they're getting those pink slips and then you put
24:25 the value on there.
24:27 Not to be excessive, but they allow you to put
24:29 the value on there.
24:31 There a lot of places that we can donate to,
24:34 especially like Dare to Dream Network
24:37 where we are focusing on helping people.
24:41 There are people who are in need of these programs.
24:44 And I want to encourage you
24:46 to give to the 3ABN Dare to Dream Network
24:50 so that we can continue to bring quality programming,
24:53 Christian programming to you, our viewers.
24:56 So I am all on board
24:59 and helping this because I wouldn't be here
25:02 today without other people
25:04 making contributions to the 3ABN Dare to Dream.
25:08 Dare to Dream say that with me, Nicole.
25:10 Dare to Dream. Dare to Dream Network.
25:12 And we want to continue to do contributions,
25:16 charitable contributions...
25:17 Yes.
25:19 And where we must receive a receipt.
25:20 Yes.
25:22 It's required now that organization
25:23 you donate to gives you some type of receipt
25:25 or letter stating what your donation was.
25:27 Now what about tithes and offering?
25:30 Can that be written on the taxes also?
25:32 Yes.
25:34 All right, 'cause that's why I get my slip from my church.
25:35 Most churches give you that end of the year
25:38 and actually some of them that,
25:39 you know, that is coming up that time
25:41 if you want to make that nice donation maybe before 12/31,
25:44 you know, I mean, so to give you that statement.
25:46 All right. Okay.
25:48 What's the best advice you can give all of us to be better
25:51 with our finances and to keep the stress low?
25:55 Prepare, always be in preparation mode.
25:59 Okay. Always be in learning mode.
26:01 Take advantage of this vast technology
26:03 we have where you can pretty much Google anything.
26:06 Yes.
26:07 When you go to speak to a professional be it the CPA
26:10 or a financial planner understand that they're very
26:12 two different things.
26:13 Yes.
26:15 And then meet with at least three.
26:16 Yes.
26:17 And then when you base the decision based off
26:19 of how you feel and talking to the person.
26:22 Yes.
26:23 What they talk to you about,
26:24 if they're coming off the charts,
26:26 talking about what services they can provide and the costs.
26:29 It's not a good thing
26:30 'cause they need to get an understanding
26:31 of what you need.
26:33 Yes.
26:34 Now I'm very particular about who I work with
26:35 financial planner wise, if you come in not
26:37 trying to get understand what my needs are or
26:39 what I'm trying to do financially,
26:41 then you're interested in your own interest.
26:43 Wow. Right.
26:44 So that's very important. That's deep.
26:46 And just don't trust everyone,
26:49 do your own research.
26:51 Yes.
26:52 You know where your money is, where it's going.
26:54 And that's the start. And that's a start.
26:56 Start.
26:57 Well, Nicole, I really thank you,
26:59 that's a big start for being here
27:01 being a resource to Live to Be Well.
27:03 Thank you.
27:04 My personal CPA been with me for years and years,
27:07 who helped me to change my finances around.
27:10 One year asked her, "How am I doing?"
27:12 And she said, "You are doing very well."
27:14 Yes. And that's what I want to hear.
27:17 I want to encourage you to meet with your financial planner,
27:20 your certified public accountant, your accountant,
27:23 stay on top of things, don't live over your means
27:26 because God says,
27:27 "Let's do things decently and in order."
27:30 And let's be a good steward
27:32 over the treasures He has given us.
27:34 I want to encourage you not to be afraid
27:37 to check your credit score like Dr. Kim used to be,
27:40 but now I am living to be well.
27:43 May God bless you and keep you
27:45 and continue to live to be well.
27:47 God bless.


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