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Series Code: LTBW
Program Code: LTBW190050S
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00:01 The following program features
00:02 real clients discussing sensitive issues. 00:05 The views and opinions expressed in this program 00:07 don't necessarily reflect 00:09 that of 3ABN's Dare to Dream Network. 00:11 Viewer discretion is advised. 00:49 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, 00:52 and welcome to Live To Be Well. 00:54 I'm excited to be here today. 00:57 And my special guest is Miss Erica Muhammed. 01:00 Welcome, Erica, how are you? 01:02 Good. Thank you, Dr. Logan, for having me. 01:04 Listen, I'm excited, 01:06 because what you do the commitment, 01:09 the unconditional commitment to educating our children. 01:13 It's like our children are not getting 01:15 what they need. 01:17 So let's talk about what grade you teach, 01:20 where you teach, 01:21 and why you have 01:23 an unconditional commitment for education? 01:25 Okay, well, I teach eighth grade. 01:29 I teach in Detroit Public Schools. 01:33 I have an unconditional love for teaching, 01:38 because I believe God called me 01:42 to do what I do. 01:45 And I want to provide services to students 01:49 that someone along the way provided to me. 01:52 Yes. 01:53 What are some of the challenges that you face on a day to day? 01:56 What's the day to day like? And what subjects do you teach? 01:58 I teach math. 02:00 Oh, okay let me just stop right there. 02:02 Yeah. 02:04 Now, I really, really had a time. 02:05 I had to repeat geometry twice in the 10th grade. 02:09 But I got it, I passed with a C, 02:12 but the teacher was, it was because of that teacher, 02:14 very patient. 02:15 I think it's foundationally we all are born to, 02:21 we have mathematical components about us. 02:26 So understanding those components, 02:29 and having a love to teach that, 02:31 to make bring real world mathematics to a student 02:37 is one of the things that has made me successful 02:39 in the classroom. 02:41 Some of the challenges are behaviorally 02:45 because we don't have the parent networks 02:48 that we need from home 02:52 versus our generation. 02:53 When we were growing up, 02:55 you had your grandmother, 02:56 you had your mother, you had your father, 02:58 you had your neighbor, 02:59 so a lot of our youth are being raised, 03:03 raising, really raising themselves. 03:04 Yes, yes. 03:05 So that dynamic has changed so drastically for educators. 03:10 And the stress of that, 03:12 because you're not only asked to teach, 03:16 to transfer knowledge, 03:18 but you're asked to be the mother, 03:20 the father, the counselor. 03:22 There's so many more components added on to your plate, 03:26 as an educator. 03:28 So on a day to day basis, teaching eighth grade math, 03:32 because that's that transition to high school. 03:34 Yes. 03:36 You know, so they're really trying to learn themselves, 03:37 understand themselves. 03:40 That was a difficult time for me. 03:41 And then you're the top of your class, 03:44 and then you got to go back to being a freshman again. 03:47 And so looking at the importance 03:49 of all aspects of education, 03:52 but we need to look at the STEM program, 03:54 we think about science and math. 03:57 And so, how do you incorporate that 03:59 to help children to learn today? 04:02 Well, children today are when we talk about technology, 04:06 they're more technology driven than my generation was. 04:09 So you have to include those phenomenons 04:12 that they like into your subject. 04:16 How do you talk about gaming? 04:18 How does that can play a component in mathematics? 04:22 How does coding, creating your own games 04:27 or the language of it or apps? 04:30 How can I teach them about apps and relate it to mathematics? 04:34 So you have to, you can't teach today's students 04:37 with yesterday's tools. 04:39 All right. 04:40 So what you have to do is 04:42 bring that, that same energy that they have 04:44 about the things that are going on, 04:46 bring that to the classroom, 04:48 that's what you have to do. 04:49 And it is a challenge 04:51 because you have students that come in, 04:52 they're eighth graders, that's what their paper says, 04:56 but academically, they're fourth graders. 04:59 I would say in most urban, or a lot of urban districts, 05:04 students come in two years behind. 05:06 So imagine in the suburban area, 05:09 affluent area, 05:10 you have a student that enters at third grade, 05:14 versus in the urban situation, 05:17 you have a student that enters at sixth grade, 05:20 six years old. 05:22 So a third grader versus a sixth grader. 05:25 And we're talking about academia. 05:27 So by the time that third three year old, sorry, 05:31 gets to be six, 05:33 they're three years in advance 05:34 versus my six year old who enters kindergarten. 05:37 How do we have a chance? Wow. 05:40 So I would say educating our parents, 05:43 because we're not learning at the same level 05:47 that we were when we were going to school 05:49 is much more advanced than that. 05:51 And some are just not aware. 05:53 How do you deal with problems when your children you see, 05:57 they may be hungry? 05:58 They're not clean? 06:00 They are not focused? What do you do? 06:03 I mean because sometimes, do you have to stay inside 06:05 that boundary of the teacher? 06:08 That is it or do you say, 06:10 this child hasn't eaten for two or three days. 06:12 So what do you do? What role do you take on then? 06:15 You take on the mother role, or the parent role. 06:18 So what I do is they have breakfast, 06:20 I leave the breakfast out. 06:22 And I tell them, yes, there's a time 06:24 for breakfast that's allocated. 06:26 But if you're hungry, 06:27 you're gonna do a working breakfast, 06:29 or a working lunch, 06:31 and those type of things 06:33 invite the students to know this person, 06:36 she cares about me 06:38 not just about what's being taught 06:39 because you can't learn 06:41 if you're, if all that's on your mind is 06:44 when am I gonna have my next meal? 06:45 Or what's going on at home? 06:48 Those are distractions 06:50 that our children come to school 06:52 and you have to be prepared 06:54 that sometimes it might not be a teaching day 06:57 for that, that particular child, 06:59 it might be a love day 07:00 where you just love that child and allow them 07:03 to have that space in that time because they need it. 07:06 What about wellness? 07:08 As an educator stress is high. 07:11 Yes, very high. 07:12 And then your colleagues, 07:14 how do you deal with your own wellbeing 07:18 and then go to work. 07:20 And then your colleague may be in a stress situation, 07:23 may have lost a loved one, 07:25 then you're dealing with all aspects of anxiety, 07:28 insomnia, depression, 07:30 all these things going on. 07:31 How do you balance or manage that 07:34 within your own life and being an educator? 07:37 Well, you have to find an outlet. 07:40 And one of the things that I love about Dr. Kim, 07:44 is she helped me to organize my outlet. 07:47 I started exercising to release stress. 07:52 Something you have to, 07:54 it depends on you as the person, let go. 07:56 Yes. Yes, yes. Let go and let God. 08:00 Because some things you just can't take on your own. 08:05 I pray. I pray. Yes. Yes. 08:08 I stay pray. Yes. 08:09 So sometimes you might have to say, 08:11 okay, I'm gonna take a break and say a prayer. 08:14 And as far as my colleagues go, we support each other. 08:17 Yes. 08:18 That's how you have to become like a family unit. 08:21 And everybody that's in your family 08:23 doesn't mean that you don't like everybody. 08:24 Okay? 08:26 But at some point in time, we all are human. 08:29 Yes. Right. 08:31 So with that being said, 08:35 we are, we have a responsibility to each other. 08:39 I think that's how I look at things. 08:41 So I might not like everybody that I work with, 08:44 but doesn't mean that I can't work with everybody. 08:46 Erica, thank you for your kind words, 08:48 I really appreciate that. 08:50 But I look so forward to our time together 08:52 every Thursday, 2:30 pm. 08:54 Yes, I do too. 08:56 Also I want to thank you for your kind words of wisdom 08:58 regarding my daughter, Erin, 09:00 when I was in some type of conflict 09:03 about giving her a gap year, 09:05 and I told you what was happening, 09:07 because, you know, it's difficult 09:08 for me to go to people 09:10 because people come to me, 09:11 and I don't want to be a burden to anyone. 09:13 But that particular day, 09:15 you allowed me to just share 09:17 and we were talking about your children, 09:19 and I said, 09:20 "May I share something, what do I do?" 09:22 And you said, 09:23 "Give her the gap here? 09:25 What timetable are we on? 09:27 It's about her and not you." 09:29 And that was like, 09:30 you know, music to my ears 09:32 because I didn't understand 09:35 and you helped me to understand that she will get there. 09:38 But let's pace this right for her. 09:41 All right? 09:43 When we think about certain behaviors, 09:46 you said that math is in every part of our lives? 09:50 Explain that? 09:51 Math is in every area that you go into, 09:55 you have to do mathematics. 09:58 The bridge of your eyes, from your eyebrows to your nose 10:00 is directly connected to the length of your ear, 10:02 we are mathematics. 10:04 So when you look at it in those terms, 10:07 every field that you go into, if you are nurse, 10:11 if you're doing graphic designs, 10:13 all of those things have mathematical components. 10:16 But sometimes that's not something 10:19 that we even think about. 10:21 When I'm teaching my students, we talk about transformations. 10:26 So I tell them translations, 10:28 rotations, reflections, those are dance moves. 10:33 So we never think about that. 10:34 Translation slide to the left, slide to the right. 10:38 We don't think of that mathematical components 10:42 when we're teaching. 10:43 But if you teach to what the students know, 10:47 then you grasp their attention. 10:49 You know, what a teacher told me, 10:50 I was learning about music. 10:54 I was playing the clarinet. 10:56 And I wasn't well in math, I was in special education. 11:01 And so the teacher said, just put your hands right here. 11:05 And just blow and I'm... 11:08 Blow, blow and, you know, in clarinet, 11:10 you're to pull your lip back in or you'll squeak. 11:13 And so I did squeak and everyone laughed. 11:16 I said, "I'll never do it again." 11:17 Said, "Oh, pick it back up." 11:18 So I would sit there and cheat, 11:20 twinkle, twinkle, whoo, whoo, whoo. 11:22 But I wasn't playing, I was just moving my hands. 11:24 So the teacher said, 11:26 "On Monday, I need you to know, twinkle, twinkle little star." 11:29 And I said, "I can't do it." 11:31 "Yes, you can, count it out." 11:33 I didn't want to tell him I did not account. 11:35 I didn't know how to count. 11:37 Because I was in a special needs program. 11:40 But my mother saw me count 11:43 when she would sing 11:45 or my, my cousin David would play the piano. 11:49 I will do this. 11:52 And my mother said, 11:53 "Well, how many beats are in the major?" 11:55 And I said, "There's four." 11:57 That's the whole note. 11:59 And she said, "What's two plus two?" 12:00 I would say seven. 12:02 She says, "How many, hold, 12:04 how many counts in the whole note?" 12:05 I said, "Four." 12:07 How many is in that half note? 12:08 I said, "Two." 12:10 Can you put the whole note and a half note together? 12:12 I said, "That's six beats." 12:14 So my mother used music to teach me math. 12:17 Everyone learns differently. They do. 12:20 And so I thank the Lord for my music teacher 12:23 who recognized and I, I just couldn't understand 12:26 how do you get two plus two, one plus one. 12:30 It just didn't make sense to me. 12:32 It just, I couldn't fathom five plus five equals 10. 12:37 And I'm counting 1-2-3. 12:41 And then by the time I get over here, 12:42 I'm starting over here again. 12:44 And so in my brain, it wasn't registering. 12:47 So when I was diagnosed attention deficit disorder. 12:51 And when I was diagnosed, delayed, delayed language. 12:55 I was in speech therapy. 12:57 I stuttered severely. 12:59 I was tongue tied. 13:00 And, but my God is able. Yes, He is. 13:03 Is He able? Yes, He is. 13:05 Because I went right through statistics. 13:07 Come on somebody. That's right. 13:09 All right, and went right through my doctorate program. 13:12 And I still had tutors. But I did. 13:14 My mother said, 13:15 "We're not giving up. You just learn differently." 13:18 And one of the hardest things I had learning was 13:21 measuring out food. 13:22 I did not like that three-fourth, 13:25 four-eighth, one-half, 13:27 you know, and my mother was saying, 13:29 "All right, let's kind of pie in half." 13:31 That's a half. 13:32 But now when she went, she said, 13:33 "But look at the fourth, 13:35 you got four pieces of that pie." 13:37 So she used that pie. 13:38 And I used that same theory in statistics with an apple 13:42 helping my sisters, my students understand. 13:45 So I say thank you for finding unique 13:49 and creative ways to teach. 13:51 I want to go personal for a little bit. 13:53 Okay. 13:55 You have been suffering with alopecia. 13:56 Yes. 13:58 You came to me to deal with the stress of that 13:59 and dealing the stress on your job. 14:02 Your husband is a vice principal 14:04 at a school system. 14:06 Yes. 14:07 So you're dealing with all of that. 14:08 Tell us what alopecia is? 14:10 How it impacted your wellness, your health 14:14 and what's going on with it now? 14:16 Well, you know, I'm gonna start from the beginning. 14:21 When I first was diagnosed with alopecia, 14:24 my hairdresser is the one who actually found the spot. 14:29 She made me go to the laboratory 14:32 with her to show me 14:34 and I did not know. 14:35 She said, "You need to make an appointment 14:37 with the dermatologist." 14:38 So I went through, 14:40 going to the dermatologist, getting injections. 14:44 Those weren't working. 14:47 And so just looking 14:48 at the stress of everything that had happened 14:52 before the spot came, 14:54 the signs that that happened to my body, 14:58 as far as healthy wise, 15:00 being under so much stress, 15:02 you don't grasp what's going on 15:05 until something dramatic happens. 15:07 And for me having alopecia was very dramatic for me. 15:11 So I went through injections, they didn't work. 15:16 So it just, my hair started to come back during, 15:20 I guess, during my de-stress when I was coming, 15:23 you know, coming off of, 15:25 not being so stressed from that particular thing, 15:28 but what it made me realize is 15:31 sometimes you have to take time for yourself. 15:33 Yes. 15:35 Because tomorrow is not promised. 15:37 That's right. 15:38 And I look at what could I have done differently? 15:42 Well, we all have stressful triggers 15:44 that bring out something. 15:46 Yeah. 15:47 So as I was doing research, that's the other thing 15:49 that I decided to do. 15:50 Let's do a whole bunch of research on alopecia. 15:53 And it's an autoimmune disease, 15:56 which so is diabetes. 16:00 My mother has sarcoidosis. 16:02 So those things you learn that are genetically, 16:05 they're genetically, can be genetically passed down, 16:07 and they may sit dormant in your body 16:10 until something happens. 16:11 And that's usually what happens. 16:13 Stress happens to people. 16:15 And so then these things come out 16:17 and you're wondering what happened, 16:19 I turn a certain age 16:21 and just everything just goes left. 16:23 Yes. 16:24 But those are things that stress can bring on. 16:27 So I had to learn how to do research, 16:31 eat differently. 16:33 It makes you pray a whole lot more 16:37 when you're going through stress, 16:39 something that you don't have control over. 16:40 Yes, yes. 16:42 I'm so happy that, you know, your hair is growing back. 16:44 Yes. 16:46 And you are really a lot more balance. 16:49 Let's talk about relationships. 16:52 How do you and your husband balance out 16:55 being both educators 16:56 like Arthur and I being both mental health, 16:59 being in the house, 17:00 so when we get home, I didn't want to even watch 17:02 anything about mental health. 17:04 I just wanted to have downtime. 17:06 So do you and your husband have downtime 17:09 away from talking about education, 17:12 even though you have children who are in college, 17:14 you have a younger son? 17:15 Yes. And he's in what grade? 17:17 He's in the eighth grade. 17:18 He's in eighth grade, yes. Oh, private tutor is home. 17:21 So he's almost like an only child. 17:23 Okay. Okay. 17:24 So one of the ways that me and my husband, 17:28 I would say, have learned to de-stress. 17:30 We talk about stressful situations, 17:33 and then put it behind us. 17:34 Talk about it, let it go. 17:36 'Cause sometimes we hold on to all of this, 17:39 and then it blows up. 17:41 Talk about it, let it go. 17:42 And we tried to find the humor in life because life is, 17:45 you know, some of the challenges 17:47 that you take on 17:49 can be humorous when you look back 17:51 on where you came from and where you're going. 17:54 That's right. Right. 17:55 And you have to understand 17:56 where you have come 17:58 in order to know where you're going. 17:59 Yes. 18:00 You as an individual, colleagues, meetings, 18:03 parent teacher's conference. 18:05 Yes. Do they still have PTA? 18:08 They do still have PTA? PTA, parent teacher conference. 18:10 Yes. 18:12 You know, a parent teacher association. 18:13 There we go. Yes. 18:14 Right. All right. 18:16 And I remember that like yesterday, 18:18 but in that they're stressed, 18:21 because you have students 18:23 who may have been absent and not there. 18:26 You're trying to meet numbers day. 18:27 Yes. 18:29 And giving that information out to the parents. 18:31 What is the ratio of parents 18:33 coming out to parent teacher's conference? 18:35 Oh, um, it's... 18:37 I would say it's much less than 18:39 when we were sometimes 18:41 you won't get 50% of the parents coming out 18:44 because they work. 18:45 Oh, yes. 18:47 So, you know, if you're busy trying to work, 18:50 when is it that you take time into your child's education, 18:55 that's another component that hinders teachers, 19:00 because at some point in time, 19:02 you have to make that just as important as making, 19:06 you know, money or providing 19:09 because it is just as important 19:11 buying into education, 19:13 and I think that has left the field, 19:17 buy into education. 19:19 If you don't have the foundation, 19:20 how will you go anywhere else? 19:24 Yes, yes. 19:25 Teachers make your doctors, your lawyers. 19:28 Engineers. Yes. 19:30 Everyone. Yes. 19:31 You know, I remember something else too. 19:33 I went into the field of speech pathology, 19:37 my doing sign language, 19:38 and then went on my Master's in counseling 19:41 and my doctorate in counseling, psychology, 19:43 psychology of counseling, and communications. 19:47 And one thing I did in my doctoral dissertation, 19:49 I talked about 19:50 that communication is the father, 19:53 the grandfather of all disciplines, 19:56 and whether you use sign language, 19:58 if I said, okay, I want to talk sign language to you right now. 20:00 All right. 20:02 Do this, Erica. Okay. 20:04 That's hello. Hello. 20:05 Bye-bye. Bye-bye. 20:07 Thank you. Thank you. 20:08 You're still communicating even none verbally. 20:11 Yes. 20:12 But communication is the root as mathematics, English, 20:18 but we all need to learn to communicate. 20:21 And so therefore we want to empower that 20:24 through our wellness, 20:26 through the way we spend time with our family, 20:29 spend time most importantly with God. 20:32 How does God, I heard you say prayer, 20:35 the spiritual component, 20:37 you know, going into the Detroit Public Schools. 20:40 And do you all have the beams up for them 20:43 to go through the metal detectors? 20:45 They do. They do. 20:47 In a middle school? 20:48 In a middle school, in all schools. 20:50 In my school that I teach at is a K through eighth. 20:55 So they all go through metal detectors, 20:57 and that's something different to that we never had, 21:01 who could have phantom that even happening. 21:03 So yes, it's a different time. 21:05 And it's a different way of thinking about things 21:09 that you have to think about. 21:10 Yes. 21:12 And so it's very, very challenging, 21:13 but God always has a role. 21:17 He should be our center. Yes. 21:19 Our center... Yes. 21:21 Of everything that we do. Yes. 21:24 You know, I don't know how people can 21:27 and you know, what's the first thing we do 21:29 when you come in my office? 21:30 We pray. 21:31 And what's the last thing before we? 21:33 We pray. We pray. 21:34 Yes. Because I cannot do this. 21:36 I don't know, Erica, the way God knows you. 21:39 He brought you to me. 21:41 And therefore being a good steward over your life, 21:43 your time, your mental health, your wellbeing. 21:47 And when you come in, 21:49 and sometimes I may go over a little bit 21:51 with the last client or patient. 21:53 You're so patient. 21:54 And, but you come on in. 21:56 Do you remember the incident that happened when I said. 21:59 Erica, I have to end the session? 22:03 We were halfway and we were rolling. 22:04 Yes. 22:06 And I said, 22:07 "There's an incident in my lobby." 22:09 And I said, "The police are there." 22:11 I before warned you. Yes. 22:13 And you walked out. 22:15 You got a piece of candy 22:17 whether they had a piece of candy, 22:18 Erin, go get our candy. 22:19 And she said, "Excuse me." 22:21 You were so understanding. 22:24 Somebody else might have just lost their whole mental health 22:27 and just say, "Well, this is my time." 22:30 But I want to thank you for blessing my life, 22:34 to be able to do what I have to do to 22:37 talk to those two police officers 22:39 and be able to handle that particular situation. 22:43 And when you came out and again, 22:44 I'd said, 22:46 "Erica, I have a situation. 22:47 Can we continue this next week?" 22:49 Of course we can. 22:50 And you were just so precious. 22:52 And you just, you spoke to the police officers 22:54 and says hello, and walked right through them. 22:57 You know, so you saw them even 22:59 and I knew you were praying for me. 23:01 And you saw then Dr. Logan 23:03 has got to deal with something else, 23:05 something else, something else. 23:07 But we do that, that's life. 23:10 Yes. 23:11 So balancing being a woman of God first. 23:13 Yes. 23:15 Being a wife. Yes. 23:17 Being a mother. Yes. 23:19 Being a educator. Yes. 23:21 Trying to put your me time in there. 23:23 Yes. 23:25 All your other family coming to see Dr. Kim, 23:29 joins this rush day, you know. 23:32 And you were such a blessing, you are. 23:35 You know, sometimes I will say 23:38 God puts people in your life 23:41 that you didn't think 23:42 that would be the journey that you have. 23:45 But He does for a purpose, for a reason. 23:49 I thank you so much for coming into my life. 23:52 But I thank God for putting you in my life. 23:55 I appreciate that. I really do. 23:58 And I'm getting some tissue in a minute. 23:59 All right. Let's... 24:01 We've about four minutes. Okay. 24:03 How do you help your children? 24:06 You know, don't do as I do, 24:08 or don't do as I say or don't do as I do, 24:10 but do as I say? 24:12 How do you implement that 24:13 especially your daughter studying for the MCAT, 24:16 and for those that don't know, 24:17 the MCAT the exams that you take 24:20 before entrance of medical school 24:22 to be accepted into medical school. 24:24 They look at the scores 24:26 and then you apply to certain medical schools 24:28 of your choice. 24:29 So she already has her undergrad in what? 24:32 In psychology. Oh, yes. 24:34 Number two, master's degree? 24:36 In her, in medical science. 24:38 She's getting her master's in medical science, 24:40 she graduates the school year. 24:42 And she's attending an HBUC... 24:45 HBCU. 24:46 Historically black colleges and universities. 24:50 I always say it backwards. Yes. 24:51 Um, the importance of you being an example, 24:56 you and your husband. 24:58 Do they listen? 25:00 or Are they just like normal kids, 25:01 you have to deal with issues with them? 25:03 I think they listen a lot more than I would say 25:06 maybe some average children because you raise them. 25:09 The way that you raise a child 25:12 is that's the way the child shall be. 25:15 So I say that 25:17 because my daughter is a listener, 25:21 my older son is more of a challenge. 25:26 So he might not see the end of the light bulb 25:29 as we're telling him, 25:31 but they don't stray too far 25:33 if you raise your child. 25:35 The right way? Yes, the right way. 25:37 Can we talk about how your daughter 25:38 was almost taken on vacation? 25:41 Yes, we can. We can. 25:43 She was on, tell us where she was? 25:45 Okay. She went to Jamaica for a trip. 25:50 It was supposed to be a trip 25:53 for tutoring community, 25:57 what is it called? 26:01 She was given an opportunity to have community service. 26:05 That's what it was. 26:07 So her and a friend. 26:11 They were traveling, you know, they were going out. 26:14 And so, she thought she was helping a friend, 26:19 being with the friend. 26:20 And what happened was, they met some gentlemen, 26:25 who did not have the same agenda. 26:28 And so my daughter was saying that 26:31 something in her 26:34 made her wake up, just wake up. 26:36 And so she talked them into, 26:37 she said, she had to use the lavatory. 26:39 And so, you know, the gentlemen didn't want to turn around. 26:44 She said, he wanted to take her to the gas station. 26:46 She said, oh, no, 26:47 she said, that's disrespectful. 26:50 So they turned around to the resort 26:52 that they were staying at. 26:54 And she said when they got to the resort, 26:56 she jumped out the car and ran into the resort. 26:59 But I said it was no one but God, 27:02 who had warned her 27:04 there's something tragic may have happened. 27:06 Happened to her life. Yes. 27:08 See, and so we're dealing with that as mothers every day. 27:10 Yeah. 27:11 And we're talking about human trafficking. 27:13 We're talking about type of violence, 27:15 domestic violence. 27:17 Yes. 27:18 And so I praise the Lord that she came back 27:19 and I remember that therapy session. 27:21 And when you told me that 27:22 and then we went right into thanking and praising God. 27:25 Yes. 27:26 I want to thank you today for being with us 27:28 on the Dare to Dream Network, 27:29 Live To Be Well. 27:30 And may God continue to use you 27:32 and your unconditional commitment. 27:35 Let me say this that 27:37 it is not an easy profession being educators 27:40 such as Erica, 27:41 but she has made a commitment to God 27:44 and to the parents and to the children. 27:46 Let us make that same commitment to God 27:49 in service with all our gifts and talents. 27:52 Let it be said well done my good and faithful servant, 27:56 enter into the joy of My Father's kingdom. 27:59 I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, and live to be well. 28:02 God bless. |
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