Live to Be Well

Unconditional Commitment

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Series Code: LTBW

Program Code: LTBW190050S

00:01 The following program features
00:02 real clients discussing sensitive issues.
00:05 The views and opinions expressed in this program
00:07 don't necessarily reflect
00:09 that of 3ABN's Dare to Dream Network.
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00:49 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin,
00:52 and welcome to Live To Be Well.
00:54 I'm excited to be here today.
00:57 And my special guest is Miss Erica Muhammed.
01:00 Welcome, Erica, how are you?
01:02 Good. Thank you, Dr. Logan, for having me.
01:04 Listen, I'm excited,
01:06 because what you do the commitment,
01:09 the unconditional commitment to educating our children.
01:13 It's like our children are not getting
01:15 what they need.
01:17 So let's talk about what grade you teach,
01:20 where you teach,
01:21 and why you have
01:23 an unconditional commitment for education?
01:25 Okay, well, I teach eighth grade.
01:29 I teach in Detroit Public Schools.
01:33 I have an unconditional love for teaching,
01:38 because I believe God called me
01:42 to do what I do.
01:45 And I want to provide services to students
01:49 that someone along the way provided to me.
01:52 Yes.
01:53 What are some of the challenges that you face on a day to day?
01:56 What's the day to day like? And what subjects do you teach?
01:58 I teach math.
02:00 Oh, okay let me just stop right there.
02:02 Yeah.
02:04 Now, I really, really had a time.
02:05 I had to repeat geometry twice in the 10th grade.
02:09 But I got it, I passed with a C,
02:12 but the teacher was, it was because of that teacher,
02:14 very patient.
02:15 I think it's foundationally we all are born to,
02:21 we have mathematical components about us.
02:26 So understanding those components,
02:29 and having a love to teach that,
02:31 to make bring real world mathematics to a student
02:37 is one of the things that has made me successful
02:39 in the classroom.
02:41 Some of the challenges are behaviorally
02:45 because we don't have the parent networks
02:48 that we need from home
02:52 versus our generation.
02:53 When we were growing up,
02:55 you had your grandmother,
02:56 you had your mother, you had your father,
02:58 you had your neighbor,
02:59 so a lot of our youth are being raised,
03:03 raising, really raising themselves.
03:04 Yes, yes.
03:05 So that dynamic has changed so drastically for educators.
03:10 And the stress of that,
03:12 because you're not only asked to teach,
03:16 to transfer knowledge,
03:18 but you're asked to be the mother,
03:20 the father, the counselor.
03:22 There's so many more components added on to your plate,
03:26 as an educator.
03:28 So on a day to day basis, teaching eighth grade math,
03:32 because that's that transition to high school.
03:34 Yes.
03:36 You know, so they're really trying to learn themselves,
03:37 understand themselves.
03:40 That was a difficult time for me.
03:41 And then you're the top of your class,
03:44 and then you got to go back to being a freshman again.
03:47 And so looking at the importance
03:49 of all aspects of education,
03:52 but we need to look at the STEM program,
03:54 we think about science and math.
03:57 And so, how do you incorporate that
03:59 to help children to learn today?
04:02 Well, children today are when we talk about technology,
04:06 they're more technology driven than my generation was.
04:09 So you have to include those phenomenons
04:12 that they like into your subject.
04:16 How do you talk about gaming?
04:18 How does that can play a component in mathematics?
04:22 How does coding, creating your own games
04:27 or the language of it or apps?
04:30 How can I teach them about apps and relate it to mathematics?
04:34 So you have to, you can't teach today's students
04:37 with yesterday's tools.
04:39 All right.
04:40 So what you have to do is
04:42 bring that, that same energy that they have
04:44 about the things that are going on,
04:46 bring that to the classroom,
04:48 that's what you have to do.
04:49 And it is a challenge
04:51 because you have students that come in,
04:52 they're eighth graders, that's what their paper says,
04:56 but academically, they're fourth graders.
04:59 I would say in most urban, or a lot of urban districts,
05:04 students come in two years behind.
05:06 So imagine in the suburban area,
05:09 affluent area,
05:10 you have a student that enters at third grade,
05:14 versus in the urban situation,
05:17 you have a student that enters at sixth grade,
05:20 six years old.
05:22 So a third grader versus a sixth grader.
05:25 And we're talking about academia.
05:27 So by the time that third three year old, sorry,
05:31 gets to be six,
05:33 they're three years in advance
05:34 versus my six year old who enters kindergarten.
05:37 How do we have a chance? Wow.
05:40 So I would say educating our parents,
05:43 because we're not learning at the same level
05:47 that we were when we were going to school
05:49 is much more advanced than that.
05:51 And some are just not aware.
05:53 How do you deal with problems when your children you see,
05:57 they may be hungry?
05:58 They're not clean?
06:00 They are not focused? What do you do?
06:03 I mean because sometimes, do you have to stay inside
06:05 that boundary of the teacher?
06:08 That is it or do you say,
06:10 this child hasn't eaten for two or three days.
06:12 So what do you do? What role do you take on then?
06:15 You take on the mother role, or the parent role.
06:18 So what I do is they have breakfast,
06:20 I leave the breakfast out.
06:22 And I tell them, yes, there's a time
06:24 for breakfast that's allocated.
06:26 But if you're hungry,
06:27 you're gonna do a working breakfast,
06:29 or a working lunch,
06:31 and those type of things
06:33 invite the students to know this person,
06:36 she cares about me
06:38 not just about what's being taught
06:39 because you can't learn
06:41 if you're, if all that's on your mind is
06:44 when am I gonna have my next meal?
06:45 Or what's going on at home?
06:48 Those are distractions
06:50 that our children come to school
06:52 and you have to be prepared
06:54 that sometimes it might not be a teaching day
06:57 for that, that particular child,
06:59 it might be a love day
07:00 where you just love that child and allow them
07:03 to have that space in that time because they need it.
07:06 What about wellness?
07:08 As an educator stress is high.
07:11 Yes, very high.
07:12 And then your colleagues,
07:14 how do you deal with your own wellbeing
07:18 and then go to work.
07:20 And then your colleague may be in a stress situation,
07:23 may have lost a loved one,
07:25 then you're dealing with all aspects of anxiety,
07:28 insomnia, depression,
07:30 all these things going on.
07:31 How do you balance or manage that
07:34 within your own life and being an educator?
07:37 Well, you have to find an outlet.
07:40 And one of the things that I love about Dr. Kim,
07:44 is she helped me to organize my outlet.
07:47 I started exercising to release stress.
07:52 Something you have to,
07:54 it depends on you as the person, let go.
07:56 Yes. Yes, yes. Let go and let God.
08:00 Because some things you just can't take on your own.
08:05 I pray. I pray. Yes. Yes.
08:08 I stay pray. Yes.
08:09 So sometimes you might have to say,
08:11 okay, I'm gonna take a break and say a prayer.
08:14 And as far as my colleagues go, we support each other.
08:17 Yes.
08:18 That's how you have to become like a family unit.
08:21 And everybody that's in your family
08:23 doesn't mean that you don't like everybody.
08:24 Okay?
08:26 But at some point in time, we all are human.
08:29 Yes. Right.
08:31 So with that being said,
08:35 we are, we have a responsibility to each other.
08:39 I think that's how I look at things.
08:41 So I might not like everybody that I work with,
08:44 but doesn't mean that I can't work with everybody.
08:46 Erica, thank you for your kind words,
08:48 I really appreciate that.
08:50 But I look so forward to our time together
08:52 every Thursday, 2:30 pm.
08:54 Yes, I do too.
08:56 Also I want to thank you for your kind words of wisdom
08:58 regarding my daughter, Erin,
09:00 when I was in some type of conflict
09:03 about giving her a gap year,
09:05 and I told you what was happening,
09:07 because, you know, it's difficult
09:08 for me to go to people
09:10 because people come to me,
09:11 and I don't want to be a burden to anyone.
09:13 But that particular day,
09:15 you allowed me to just share
09:17 and we were talking about your children,
09:19 and I said,
09:20 "May I share something, what do I do?"
09:22 And you said,
09:23 "Give her the gap here?
09:25 What timetable are we on?
09:27 It's about her and not you."
09:29 And that was like,
09:30 you know, music to my ears
09:32 because I didn't understand
09:35 and you helped me to understand that she will get there.
09:38 But let's pace this right for her.
09:41 All right?
09:43 When we think about certain behaviors,
09:46 you said that math is in every part of our lives?
09:50 Explain that?
09:51 Math is in every area that you go into,
09:55 you have to do mathematics.
09:58 The bridge of your eyes, from your eyebrows to your nose
10:00 is directly connected to the length of your ear,
10:02 we are mathematics.
10:04 So when you look at it in those terms,
10:07 every field that you go into, if you are nurse,
10:11 if you're doing graphic designs,
10:13 all of those things have mathematical components.
10:16 But sometimes that's not something
10:19 that we even think about.
10:21 When I'm teaching my students, we talk about transformations.
10:26 So I tell them translations,
10:28 rotations, reflections, those are dance moves.
10:33 So we never think about that.
10:34 Translation slide to the left, slide to the right.
10:38 We don't think of that mathematical components
10:42 when we're teaching.
10:43 But if you teach to what the students know,
10:47 then you grasp their attention.
10:49 You know, what a teacher told me,
10:50 I was learning about music.
10:54 I was playing the clarinet.
10:56 And I wasn't well in math, I was in special education.
11:01 And so the teacher said, just put your hands right here.
11:05 And just blow and I'm...
11:08 Blow, blow and, you know, in clarinet,
11:10 you're to pull your lip back in or you'll squeak.
11:13 And so I did squeak and everyone laughed.
11:16 I said, "I'll never do it again."
11:17 Said, "Oh, pick it back up."
11:18 So I would sit there and cheat,
11:20 twinkle, twinkle, whoo, whoo, whoo.
11:22 But I wasn't playing, I was just moving my hands.
11:24 So the teacher said,
11:26 "On Monday, I need you to know, twinkle, twinkle little star."
11:29 And I said, "I can't do it."
11:31 "Yes, you can, count it out."
11:33 I didn't want to tell him I did not account.
11:35 I didn't know how to count.
11:37 Because I was in a special needs program.
11:40 But my mother saw me count
11:43 when she would sing
11:45 or my, my cousin David would play the piano.
11:49 I will do this.
11:52 And my mother said,
11:53 "Well, how many beats are in the major?"
11:55 And I said, "There's four."
11:57 That's the whole note.
11:59 And she said, "What's two plus two?"
12:00 I would say seven.
12:02 She says, "How many, hold,
12:04 how many counts in the whole note?"
12:05 I said, "Four."
12:07 How many is in that half note?
12:08 I said, "Two."
12:10 Can you put the whole note and a half note together?
12:12 I said, "That's six beats."
12:14 So my mother used music to teach me math.
12:17 Everyone learns differently. They do.
12:20 And so I thank the Lord for my music teacher
12:23 who recognized and I, I just couldn't understand
12:26 how do you get two plus two, one plus one.
12:30 It just didn't make sense to me.
12:32 It just, I couldn't fathom five plus five equals 10.
12:37 And I'm counting 1-2-3.
12:41 And then by the time I get over here,
12:42 I'm starting over here again.
12:44 And so in my brain, it wasn't registering.
12:47 So when I was diagnosed attention deficit disorder.
12:51 And when I was diagnosed, delayed, delayed language.
12:55 I was in speech therapy.
12:57 I stuttered severely.
12:59 I was tongue tied.
13:00 And, but my God is able. Yes, He is.
13:03 Is He able? Yes, He is.
13:05 Because I went right through statistics.
13:07 Come on somebody. That's right.
13:09 All right, and went right through my doctorate program.
13:12 And I still had tutors. But I did.
13:14 My mother said,
13:15 "We're not giving up. You just learn differently."
13:18 And one of the hardest things I had learning was
13:21 measuring out food.
13:22 I did not like that three-fourth,
13:25 four-eighth, one-half,
13:27 you know, and my mother was saying,
13:29 "All right, let's kind of pie in half."
13:31 That's a half.
13:32 But now when she went, she said,
13:33 "But look at the fourth,
13:35 you got four pieces of that pie."
13:37 So she used that pie.
13:38 And I used that same theory in statistics with an apple
13:42 helping my sisters, my students understand.
13:45 So I say thank you for finding unique
13:49 and creative ways to teach.
13:51 I want to go personal for a little bit.
13:53 Okay.
13:55 You have been suffering with alopecia.
13:56 Yes.
13:58 You came to me to deal with the stress of that
13:59 and dealing the stress on your job.
14:02 Your husband is a vice principal
14:04 at a school system.
14:06 Yes.
14:07 So you're dealing with all of that.
14:08 Tell us what alopecia is?
14:10 How it impacted your wellness, your health
14:14 and what's going on with it now?
14:16 Well, you know, I'm gonna start from the beginning.
14:21 When I first was diagnosed with alopecia,
14:24 my hairdresser is the one who actually found the spot.
14:29 She made me go to the laboratory
14:32 with her to show me
14:34 and I did not know.
14:35 She said, "You need to make an appointment
14:37 with the dermatologist."
14:38 So I went through,
14:40 going to the dermatologist, getting injections.
14:44 Those weren't working.
14:47 And so just looking
14:48 at the stress of everything that had happened
14:52 before the spot came,
14:54 the signs that that happened to my body,
14:58 as far as healthy wise,
15:00 being under so much stress,
15:02 you don't grasp what's going on
15:05 until something dramatic happens.
15:07 And for me having alopecia was very dramatic for me.
15:11 So I went through injections, they didn't work.
15:16 So it just, my hair started to come back during,
15:20 I guess, during my de-stress when I was coming,
15:23 you know, coming off of,
15:25 not being so stressed from that particular thing,
15:28 but what it made me realize is
15:31 sometimes you have to take time for yourself.
15:33 Yes.
15:35 Because tomorrow is not promised.
15:37 That's right.
15:38 And I look at what could I have done differently?
15:42 Well, we all have stressful triggers
15:44 that bring out something.
15:46 Yeah.
15:47 So as I was doing research, that's the other thing
15:49 that I decided to do.
15:50 Let's do a whole bunch of research on alopecia.
15:53 And it's an autoimmune disease,
15:56 which so is diabetes.
16:00 My mother has sarcoidosis.
16:02 So those things you learn that are genetically,
16:05 they're genetically, can be genetically passed down,
16:07 and they may sit dormant in your body
16:10 until something happens.
16:11 And that's usually what happens.
16:13 Stress happens to people.
16:15 And so then these things come out
16:17 and you're wondering what happened,
16:19 I turn a certain age
16:21 and just everything just goes left.
16:23 Yes.
16:24 But those are things that stress can bring on.
16:27 So I had to learn how to do research,
16:31 eat differently.
16:33 It makes you pray a whole lot more
16:37 when you're going through stress,
16:39 something that you don't have control over.
16:40 Yes, yes.
16:42 I'm so happy that, you know, your hair is growing back.
16:44 Yes.
16:46 And you are really a lot more balance.
16:49 Let's talk about relationships.
16:52 How do you and your husband balance out
16:55 being both educators
16:56 like Arthur and I being both mental health,
16:59 being in the house,
17:00 so when we get home, I didn't want to even watch
17:02 anything about mental health.
17:04 I just wanted to have downtime.
17:06 So do you and your husband have downtime
17:09 away from talking about education,
17:12 even though you have children who are in college,
17:14 you have a younger son?
17:15 Yes. And he's in what grade?
17:17 He's in the eighth grade.
17:18 He's in eighth grade, yes. Oh, private tutor is home.
17:21 So he's almost like an only child.
17:23 Okay. Okay.
17:24 So one of the ways that me and my husband,
17:28 I would say, have learned to de-stress.
17:30 We talk about stressful situations,
17:33 and then put it behind us.
17:34 Talk about it, let it go.
17:36 'Cause sometimes we hold on to all of this,
17:39 and then it blows up.
17:41 Talk about it, let it go.
17:42 And we tried to find the humor in life because life is,
17:45 you know, some of the challenges
17:47 that you take on
17:49 can be humorous when you look back
17:51 on where you came from and where you're going.
17:54 That's right. Right.
17:55 And you have to understand
17:56 where you have come
17:58 in order to know where you're going.
17:59 Yes.
18:00 You as an individual, colleagues, meetings,
18:03 parent teacher's conference.
18:05 Yes. Do they still have PTA?
18:08 They do still have PTA? PTA, parent teacher conference.
18:10 Yes.
18:12 You know, a parent teacher association.
18:13 There we go. Yes.
18:14 Right. All right.
18:16 And I remember that like yesterday,
18:18 but in that they're stressed,
18:21 because you have students
18:23 who may have been absent and not there.
18:26 You're trying to meet numbers day.
18:27 Yes.
18:29 And giving that information out to the parents.
18:31 What is the ratio of parents
18:33 coming out to parent teacher's conference?
18:35 Oh, um, it's...
18:37 I would say it's much less than
18:39 when we were sometimes
18:41 you won't get 50% of the parents coming out
18:44 because they work.
18:45 Oh, yes.
18:47 So, you know, if you're busy trying to work,
18:50 when is it that you take time into your child's education,
18:55 that's another component that hinders teachers,
19:00 because at some point in time,
19:02 you have to make that just as important as making,
19:06 you know, money or providing
19:09 because it is just as important
19:11 buying into education,
19:13 and I think that has left the field,
19:17 buy into education.
19:19 If you don't have the foundation,
19:20 how will you go anywhere else?
19:24 Yes, yes.
19:25 Teachers make your doctors, your lawyers.
19:28 Engineers. Yes.
19:30 Everyone. Yes.
19:31 You know, I remember something else too.
19:33 I went into the field of speech pathology,
19:37 my doing sign language,
19:38 and then went on my Master's in counseling
19:41 and my doctorate in counseling, psychology,
19:43 psychology of counseling, and communications.
19:47 And one thing I did in my doctoral dissertation,
19:49 I talked about
19:50 that communication is the father,
19:53 the grandfather of all disciplines,
19:56 and whether you use sign language,
19:58 if I said, okay, I want to talk sign language to you right now.
20:00 All right.
20:02 Do this, Erica. Okay.
20:04 That's hello. Hello.
20:05 Bye-bye. Bye-bye.
20:07 Thank you. Thank you.
20:08 You're still communicating even none verbally.
20:11 Yes.
20:12 But communication is the root as mathematics, English,
20:18 but we all need to learn to communicate.
20:21 And so therefore we want to empower that
20:24 through our wellness,
20:26 through the way we spend time with our family,
20:29 spend time most importantly with God.
20:32 How does God, I heard you say prayer,
20:35 the spiritual component,
20:37 you know, going into the Detroit Public Schools.
20:40 And do you all have the beams up for them
20:43 to go through the metal detectors?
20:45 They do. They do.
20:47 In a middle school?
20:48 In a middle school, in all schools.
20:50 In my school that I teach at is a K through eighth.
20:55 So they all go through metal detectors,
20:57 and that's something different to that we never had,
21:01 who could have phantom that even happening.
21:03 So yes, it's a different time.
21:05 And it's a different way of thinking about things
21:09 that you have to think about.
21:10 Yes.
21:12 And so it's very, very challenging,
21:13 but God always has a role.
21:17 He should be our center. Yes.
21:19 Our center... Yes.
21:21 Of everything that we do. Yes.
21:24 You know, I don't know how people can
21:27 and you know, what's the first thing we do
21:29 when you come in my office?
21:30 We pray.
21:31 And what's the last thing before we?
21:33 We pray. We pray.
21:34 Yes. Because I cannot do this.
21:36 I don't know, Erica, the way God knows you.
21:39 He brought you to me.
21:41 And therefore being a good steward over your life,
21:43 your time, your mental health, your wellbeing.
21:47 And when you come in,
21:49 and sometimes I may go over a little bit
21:51 with the last client or patient.
21:53 You're so patient.
21:54 And, but you come on in.
21:56 Do you remember the incident that happened when I said.
21:59 Erica, I have to end the session?
22:03 We were halfway and we were rolling.
22:04 Yes.
22:06 And I said,
22:07 "There's an incident in my lobby."
22:09 And I said, "The police are there."
22:11 I before warned you. Yes.
22:13 And you walked out.
22:15 You got a piece of candy
22:17 whether they had a piece of candy,
22:18 Erin, go get our candy.
22:19 And she said, "Excuse me."
22:21 You were so understanding.
22:24 Somebody else might have just lost their whole mental health
22:27 and just say, "Well, this is my time."
22:30 But I want to thank you for blessing my life,
22:34 to be able to do what I have to do to
22:37 talk to those two police officers
22:39 and be able to handle that particular situation.
22:43 And when you came out and again,
22:44 I'd said,
22:46 "Erica, I have a situation.
22:47 Can we continue this next week?"
22:49 Of course we can.
22:50 And you were just so precious.
22:52 And you just, you spoke to the police officers
22:54 and says hello, and walked right through them.
22:57 You know, so you saw them even
22:59 and I knew you were praying for me.
23:01 And you saw then Dr. Logan
23:03 has got to deal with something else,
23:05 something else, something else.
23:07 But we do that, that's life.
23:10 Yes.
23:11 So balancing being a woman of God first.
23:13 Yes.
23:15 Being a wife. Yes.
23:17 Being a mother. Yes.
23:19 Being a educator. Yes.
23:21 Trying to put your me time in there.
23:23 Yes.
23:25 All your other family coming to see Dr. Kim,
23:29 joins this rush day, you know.
23:32 And you were such a blessing, you are.
23:35 You know, sometimes I will say
23:38 God puts people in your life
23:41 that you didn't think
23:42 that would be the journey that you have.
23:45 But He does for a purpose, for a reason.
23:49 I thank you so much for coming into my life.
23:52 But I thank God for putting you in my life.
23:55 I appreciate that. I really do.
23:58 And I'm getting some tissue in a minute.
23:59 All right. Let's...
24:01 We've about four minutes. Okay.
24:03 How do you help your children?
24:06 You know, don't do as I do,
24:08 or don't do as I say or don't do as I do,
24:10 but do as I say?
24:12 How do you implement that
24:13 especially your daughter studying for the MCAT,
24:16 and for those that don't know,
24:17 the MCAT the exams that you take
24:20 before entrance of medical school
24:22 to be accepted into medical school.
24:24 They look at the scores
24:26 and then you apply to certain medical schools
24:28 of your choice.
24:29 So she already has her undergrad in what?
24:32 In psychology. Oh, yes.
24:34 Number two, master's degree?
24:36 In her, in medical science.
24:38 She's getting her master's in medical science,
24:40 she graduates the school year.
24:42 And she's attending an HBUC...
24:45 HBCU.
24:46 Historically black colleges and universities.
24:50 I always say it backwards. Yes.
24:51 Um, the importance of you being an example,
24:56 you and your husband.
24:58 Do they listen?
25:00 or Are they just like normal kids,
25:01 you have to deal with issues with them?
25:03 I think they listen a lot more than I would say
25:06 maybe some average children because you raise them.
25:09 The way that you raise a child
25:12 is that's the way the child shall be.
25:15 So I say that
25:17 because my daughter is a listener,
25:21 my older son is more of a challenge.
25:26 So he might not see the end of the light bulb
25:29 as we're telling him,
25:31 but they don't stray too far
25:33 if you raise your child.
25:35 The right way? Yes, the right way.
25:37 Can we talk about how your daughter
25:38 was almost taken on vacation?
25:41 Yes, we can. We can.
25:43 She was on, tell us where she was?
25:45 Okay. She went to Jamaica for a trip.
25:50 It was supposed to be a trip
25:53 for tutoring community,
25:57 what is it called?
26:01 She was given an opportunity to have community service.
26:05 That's what it was.
26:07 So her and a friend.
26:11 They were traveling, you know, they were going out.
26:14 And so, she thought she was helping a friend,
26:19 being with the friend.
26:20 And what happened was, they met some gentlemen,
26:25 who did not have the same agenda.
26:28 And so my daughter was saying that
26:31 something in her
26:34 made her wake up, just wake up.
26:36 And so she talked them into,
26:37 she said, she had to use the lavatory.
26:39 And so, you know, the gentlemen didn't want to turn around.
26:44 She said, he wanted to take her to the gas station.
26:46 She said, oh, no,
26:47 she said, that's disrespectful.
26:50 So they turned around to the resort
26:52 that they were staying at.
26:54 And she said when they got to the resort,
26:56 she jumped out the car and ran into the resort.
26:59 But I said it was no one but God,
27:02 who had warned her
27:04 there's something tragic may have happened.
27:06 Happened to her life. Yes.
27:08 See, and so we're dealing with that as mothers every day.
27:10 Yeah.
27:11 And we're talking about human trafficking.
27:13 We're talking about type of violence,
27:15 domestic violence.
27:17 Yes.
27:18 And so I praise the Lord that she came back
27:19 and I remember that therapy session.
27:21 And when you told me that
27:22 and then we went right into thanking and praising God.
27:25 Yes.
27:26 I want to thank you today for being with us
27:28 on the Dare to Dream Network,
27:29 Live To Be Well.
27:30 And may God continue to use you
27:32 and your unconditional commitment.
27:35 Let me say this that
27:37 it is not an easy profession being educators
27:40 such as Erica,
27:41 but she has made a commitment to God
27:44 and to the parents and to the children.
27:46 Let us make that same commitment to God
27:49 in service with all our gifts and talents.
27:52 Let it be said well done my good and faithful servant,
27:56 enter into the joy of My Father's kingdom.
27:59 I'm Dr. Kim Logan-Nowlin, and live to be well.
28:02 God bless.


Revised 2021-08-20