Participants: Duawne Starling (Host), Yvonne Lewis (Host), John Lomacang, Monique Griffiths
Series Code: MGNH
Program Code: MGNH000009
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00:01 Magnify the Lord with me
00:04 Magnify the Lord 00:08 Jesus alone is worthy 00:11 Magnify Him 00:17 Welcome to Magnify Him. My name is Yvonne Lewis. 00:21 I'm really excited about our program today. 00:24 I believe that God has a special blessing 00:26 in store for you. 00:28 Stay tuned for some amazing God given talent. 00:31 We're going to lift up the name of Jesus 00:33 and magnify Him. 00:35 Magnify the Lord with me 00:38 Magnify Him 00:44 I'm sitting here with one of my absolute favourite people 00:48 on the planet, Pastor John Lomacang. 00:51 Welcome to Magnify Him, Pastor John. 00:53 Thank you, Dr. Lewis. 00:54 It is so good to have you here. May I call you John? 00:56 Yes, may I call you Yvonne. 00:58 Absolutely. 00:59 Let's get comfortable with each other. 01:01 Let's just be comfortable. As we already are. 01:02 I know, absolutely. 01:03 I have been so blessed by your music over the years 01:07 and I know that two of the songs that 01:09 you're gonna sing today are about trials and-- 01:12 What can you tell us about trials 01:14 and how does this kinds of relate to your ministry? 01:16 Well, you know, in the many years of pastoring 01:20 and 28 years of marriage, 25 years of pastoral ministry, 01:23 I've learned one constant truth. 01:26 Many are the afflictions of the righteous. 01:29 You know, the Christian's life 01:30 is often beset by trials and tribulations 01:33 and sometimes we come to church 01:35 and we try to hide those behind the canopy 01:37 of praise God it's a happy Sabbath or-- 01:39 You know, God is good all the time. 01:41 We get into these clichés 01:42 but deep within we're going through 01:44 a valley of difficulties. 01:46 And so what I did is I began to look 01:48 through the Bible and began to see 01:50 what the purpose of those trials are. 01:52 You know, the Bible tells us first of all, 01:54 don't think it's strange concerning 01:56 the fiery trials that will try you 01:59 as though some strange thing happened to you. 02:01 Yes. 02:03 And then you know, the Bible also says in Revelation, 02:04 we're gold tried in the fire. 02:08 And so-- then the Bible talks about 02:11 the fiery darts of the wicked one. 02:13 And truly we can go through a week 02:15 and feel those fiery darts. 02:17 We can go through and go to the valley 02:19 of the fiery trials. 02:20 And I always wondered, "Why would God allow 02:23 His children to go through that?" 02:25 And then I came to the conclusion that 02:27 God does not allow anything 02:28 that's not valuable to go through the fire. 02:32 And he doesn't say, "If you go through the fire 02:36 but when-- " 02:38 That's right. 02:39 And so we know that He's with us 02:40 when we go through the fire. 02:42 That's right, when you pass through the waters, 02:43 they will not overflow you. 02:44 Exactly. Yes, and through rivers. 02:46 And through the rivers. 02:48 And so, so a lot of times we have to face that in reality 02:52 and say, well, the one encouraging thing 02:54 about trials is, as we'd say in the, 02:58 in the, in the, in the Arabian Sea, 02:59 "It ain't gonna last always. 03:01 That's right. That's right. 03:02 You know, what I found in trials, 03:04 Pastor John, is that-- 03:05 See I slipped back to pastor format-- 03:07 What I found is that through suffering, 03:12 though you would not want to repeat it, 03:14 there's a sweetness because you can almost 03:17 sense God's presence. 03:19 If you press into Him, you can sense His presence. 03:22 You can sense His comfort. 03:24 You know, it's like it brings you strong-- 03:27 It makes you stronger in Him. 03:29 And there's a sweetness about that. 03:32 There's something about trials and suffering that-- 03:35 Again though you don't request it 03:38 when you're going through it, 03:39 it can just draw you closer to the Lord. 03:42 I met a person once who said-- 03:44 she prayed for the Lord to give her patience. 03:46 She said, "That was a terrible request." 03:49 Because patience doesn't come unless 03:52 what you're praying for hasn't come-- 03:53 Hasn't arrived yet. 03:55 Sometimes patience comes at a time where you're saying, 03:57 "Okay, Lord, I've been up-- 03:59 Okay, Lord I've been up here on the cross long enough-- " 04:01 Yes. 04:02 "I have the patience I need now. 04:04 Let me come down." 04:05 But our heavenly Father knows when enough is enough. 04:07 Yes. 04:09 You know, we look at the trial of Job 04:10 and we always say, 04:11 "Well, I know I haven't gone through it. 04:13 Job has gone through. 04:14 But in every one of our lives, we have a little Job moment. 04:16 We do. 04:17 Because God knows exactly what we're able to bear. 04:19 Yes. 04:20 He never, and I've read a statement 04:22 in Ellen White's writings where she says, 04:23 "God measures the trials." 04:25 Yes. 04:26 "He measures and like the faithful person. 04:28 You know, if you, if you're loading a moving van 04:31 and you have your little four year old son or daughter. 04:34 You're not gonna say, 04:35 "Carry the couch into the truck." 04:37 Exactly. Because they can't do it. 04:38 But you say, "Well"-- 04:40 You look around the room and say, 04:41 "I know they can carry that." 04:42 You give it to them. 04:44 And to them it may be really heavy. 04:45 But you know they can make it. 04:47 Yes. He has to mould us. 04:48 We can't just you know, our experience, 04:51 we have to grow in Him. 04:53 And He has to mould us. 04:54 And that can't be done without melting us a bit. 04:58 Oh, that's true. Through that fire. 05:00 I'm glad you said melting, 05:01 because gold that is smelted comes out pure. 05:06 Yes. God does not-- 05:08 As one of my favourite lady said Sister L. J. Hughes. 05:12 She was a Bible worker in our church 05:13 and also the president of the Bible Instructors-- 05:15 Instructors given Pacific Union. 05:17 She'd always say, "God don't make junk." 05:21 And that's true 05:22 because God sees what we can be. 05:25 I often came up with a favourite saying 05:28 that I use in the sermon once, "If God is melting you, 05:32 He's getting ready to mould you into the shape 05:34 that He want you to be eternal." 05:35 Exactly. 05:37 And so that's what happens to gold. 05:38 They melt all that raw material that draws the dirt-- 05:41 The valueless material rises and they'll just scoop it off 05:46 and that pure gold bar comes out. 05:48 And if the gold could take, it would say, 05:50 "Man that was hot." 05:51 Yeah. 05:52 "But I worth a whole lot more now." 05:54 Exactly. So those are fiery trials. 05:55 Yes, yes. 05:57 The song "Just Be There" 05:59 that you're going to sing has such significance to me 06:03 as a mother whose children were-- 06:05 had strayed from the Lord and I think that when in-- 06:08 If any mother is listening this evening, 06:11 mother or father, listen to the lyrics of this song 06:15 and know that God is going to restore your children. 06:20 I've had many tears and sorrows 06:23 I've had questions for tomorrow 06:27 There were times I didn't know right from wrong 06:33 But in every situation 06:36 God gave blessed consolation 06:40 That my trials come to only make me strong 06:48 I've been a lot of places 06:50 And I've seen so many faces 06:55 But there were times that I felt so all alone 07:01 But in that lonely hour 07:04 Yes, that precious, lonely hour 07:08 Jesus let me know that I was His own 07:13 That's the reason I say that 07:16 Through it all 07:18 Yes, through it all 07:22 Oh, I've learned to trust in Jesus 07:26 I've learned to trust in God 07:28 And it's been 07:30 Through it all 07:32 Oh, yes, through it all 07:36 Oh, I've learned to depend upon His Word 07:43 So I thank God for the mountains 07:47 And I thank Him for the valleys 07:51 I thank Him for the storms 07:54 He's brought me through 07:58 'Cause if I never had a problem 08:02 I'd never know that He could solve them 08:05 Never know what faith in His Word can do 08:10 That's the reason I say that 08:12 Through it all 08:14 Yes, through it all 08:18 Oh, I've learned to trust in Jesus 08:22 I've learned to trust in God 08:25 And it's been through it all 08:28 Oh, yes it's been, yeah 08:30 Through it all 08:32 Oh, I've learned to depend upon His Word 08:38 That's the reason I'm walking 08:40 Through it all 08:42 Oh, yes it's been, yeah 08:44 Through it all 08:46 Oh, I've learned to trust in Jesus 08:50 I've learned to trust in God 08:53 And it's been through it all 08:56 Yes! Through it all 09:00 Oh, I've learned to depend upon His Word 09:08 Yes, I've learned to depend upon God's Word 09:14 Oh yes, I've learned 09:17 To depend upon God's Word! 09:37 You know, trials often outline 09:39 the paths of Christians in this world 09:41 and the Bible says, 09:43 "Many are the afflictions of the righteous. 09:45 But the Lord delivers him out of them all." 09:48 No matter how many trials you go through, friends, 09:50 just remember this. 09:51 When all the trials are over and they're all behind us, 09:54 don't forget the number one thing is to just be there. 10:16 Cradled in my arms I held you 10:22 And I loved you more with each day passing by 10:30 Sharing joy, sharing pain 10:35 Through the sunshine and the rain 10:40 I can't believe 10:41 It's time to say goodbye 10:48 I don't know what the future brings you 10:54 But I hope that you'll keep Heaven 10:58 As your goal 11:02 For I taught you how to pray 11:06 And I made sure you knew the way 11:10 So remember my request 11:15 Before you go 11:18 Just be there 11:22 When we finally make it home 11:26 And when we stand before the throne 11:30 Just be there 11:34 So when I turn around to see 11:38 If you'll be standing next to me 11:46 Just be there 12:04 It's not an easy road 12:07 You're travelling 12:10 But every place that you go Jesus has been 12:18 So if you find you've made a turn 12:23 Forgetting what you've learned 12:27 You may have to start all over again 12:36 It's not an easy load you're bearing 12:42 But the trials of your faith 12:46 Will make you strong 12:50 Facing danger unaware 12:54 He won't allow what you can't bear 12:58 So my prayer is that your faith 13:03 Will lead you home 13:06 Just be there 13:10 When we finally make it home 13:14 And when we stand before God's throne 13:18 Just be there 13:22 So when I turn around to see 13:26 If you'll standing next to me 13:34 Just be there 13:42 Will you be standing next to me? 13:50 Just be there 13:58 Just be there 14:11 Magnify the Lord with me 14:14 Magnify Him 14:20 I like to welcome Monique Griffiths 14:22 to Magnify Him. 14:24 Thank you. I'm so glad you're here. 14:26 What a blessing your music is. I head you earlier and... 14:30 My! 14:31 I mean, God has blessed so incredibly. 14:34 Tell me a little bit about your music ministry? 14:37 What've you been doing? 14:38 Well... 14:41 Recently I've been ministering a lot more 14:46 because I was afraid to go out 14:49 and spread the gospel through music 14:51 because I lost my voice. 14:53 Really? Tell us about that? 14:55 Well, I had my son, a wonderful musician. 14:59 How old is your son? 15:00 He's seven years old. Okay. 15:02 And I ended up having to have a c-section. 15:06 And from that c-section I lost my voice completely. 15:09 I couldn't sing. Tenor was too high. 15:12 My, my and from what I've heard 15:15 your range is expansive. 15:17 I mean it's just incredible so God restores. 15:20 He does. 15:21 How long after you lost the voice did you recover? 15:24 Well, I started singing tenor around 15:28 may be when he was two years old. 15:30 Okay. 15:31 And so I got together with my vocal teacher 15:35 and with prayer and support from my husband, of course. 15:38 Yes. 15:40 The encouragement helped me to built into-- 15:43 And gain it back. 15:45 And God really restored my voice. 15:48 And He even changed the color of my voice. 15:51 Really? How so? 15:53 Its more, its more of a gospel warmer sound 15:56 than it was before. 15:57 Really? Yes. 15:59 So not only-- Is God amazing or what? 16:02 Not only did He restore it, but He made it better. 16:05 Yes, He did. God is incredible, isn't He? 16:07 He is. 16:09 You have a music ministry with your husband 16:11 and that's a blessing as well. 16:13 Tell us a little bit about that too? 16:16 Our ministry started when we were dating. 16:19 And it grew when we got married. 16:21 And so now we just praise God together. 16:24 Amen. 16:26 What a blessing it is to have a companion 16:27 that you can minister with. 16:29 I mean, I just think that 16:30 that's one of the greatest blessings 16:32 that we can possibly have. 16:34 And speaking of blessings, 16:36 I just know that you're going to be amazingly blessed 16:40 by the ministry of my sister here. 16:43 She is... 16:45 A phenomenal woman of God, an anointed songstress, 16:49 Sister Monique Griffiths, listen to her. 17:09 There are burdens that 17:12 I carry everyday 17:17 Sometimes they make me want to cry 17:26 Hopeless feelings harbored 17:29 Deep inside my heart 17:32 And I find it hard 17:36 To hold my head up high 17:44 In the middle of the darkness in my life 17:51 I find a strength to carry on 18:00 I am holding 18:04 To a promise Jesus made 18:07 And I know it won't be long 18:11 'Til we'll be gone 18:17 'Cause in a while we'll be gone 18:25 And we won't have to cry anymore 18:34 All our sorrows left behind 18:43 And that's the day 18:45 That I am waiting for 18:51 And that's the day 18:53 That I am longing for 19:07 If you feel there is 19:10 No meaning in your life 19:14 And you'll feel 19:18 That you've lost your way 19:21 All you got to do is 19:23 Just listen closely 19:27 To the voice that's deep inside 19:31 And remember 19:33 What the Savior has to say 19:41 'Cause in a while 19:44 We'll be gone 19:47 And we won't have 19:49 To cry anymore 19:58 All our sorrows left behind 20:06 And that's the day 20:07 That I am waiting for 20:14 Oh, that's the day 20:16 That I am longing for 20:29 Coming again 20:33 Coming again 20:36 My Jesus is coming again 20:44 Yeah, yes! 20:46 He's coming again 20:52 Coming again 20:55 My Jesus, yeah, yeah 21:00 He is coming again 21:11 And that's the day 21:13 That I am waiting for 21:20 Oh, that's the day 21:23 That I am longing for 21:47 As I go through my Christina journey, 21:50 I know I have to go through many trials and tribulations 21:52 because that will make me stronger. 21:55 So for those things I say to God be the glory 21:59 for the many great things that He's doing in my life. 22:23 How can I say thanks 22:32 For the things 22:36 You have done for me? 22:44 Things so undeserved yet 22:52 You gave 22:55 To prove Your love for me 23:00 The voices 23:04 Of a million angels 23:10 Could not express 23:15 My gratitude 23:18 For all that I am 23:21 And ever hope to be 23:31 I owe it all to Thee 23:38 To God be the glory 23:46 To God be the glory 23:55 To God be all the glory 24:02 For the things 24:06 He has done 24:11 With His blood 24:17 He has saved me 24:21 And with His power 24:26 He has raised me 24:28 So to God 24:34 Be all the glory 24:40 And it's for the things 24:44 He has done 24:50 Just let me live 24:54 Let me live my life 24:57 And let it be pleasing 25:00 Lord to Thee 25:05 And should I gain 25:11 Should I gain any praise 25:15 Let it go to Calvary 25:27 With His blood 25:33 He has saved me 25:36 And with His power 25:42 He has raised me 25:44 So to God 25:50 Be all the glory 25:56 And it's for the things 26:01 Oh, yeah! 26:03 For the many things 26:05 That He's done in my life 26:07 It's for the things 26:11 For keeping me from dangerous seen and unseen 26:15 Oh, thank you Lord 26:16 For the things 26:18 For the many, many things 26:20 Lord, it's for the things 26:22 For giving me my right mind 26:25 It's for the things For the things 26:29 For the things 26:32 Yeah! 26:34 For the things 26:36 Yeah! 26:38 For the things 26:40 Yeah! For the things. 26:44 For the things For the things 26:56 God I thank you 26:59 For the many, many, many, many things 27:07 Let you have 27:13 The glory 27:30 Magnify Him 27:35 Psalm 69:30 says, 27:37 "I will praise the name of God with a song 27:40 and Magnify Him with Thanksgiving." 27:43 I'm thankful that we were able to be a part of sharing 27:46 these anointed artists with you at home. 27:49 It really was a blessing for me 27:50 and I pray that it was a blessing for you as well. 27:53 Thanks for tuning in. See you next time. |
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