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Series Code: OTG
Program Code: OTG000048A
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00:01 Scattered across the globe,
00:02 Adventist World Aviation has mission outposts 00:05 strategically placed in rural locations. 00:08 Often, aviation is the only way to reach these remote villages, 00:13 tucked away within jungles, 00:15 or scattered along world unaddressed. 00:18 AWA connects the inhabitants of these villages 00:21 with the care that they need by employing aircraft, 00:25 traveling great distances, 00:27 AWA missionaries become a lifeline 00:30 to those who are in dire need. 00:33 Adventist World Aviation 00:34 is dedicated to saving people both physically and eternally. 00:39 With aviation, AWA can reach those off the beaten track 00:43 and share the love of Jesus 00:46 to the seemingly unreachable of this world. 01:34 One of AWA's mission bases 01:37 is located in the Philippines on the island of Palawan. 01:41 This mission aviation base was established in 2005. 01:46 The base is centrally located, 01:48 enabling missionaries 01:50 to reach outlying areas with aircraft. 01:53 The Philippine Islands are comprised 01:55 of over 7,000 islands. 01:57 Some of these small islands are isolated 02:00 because boats cannot make the dangerous journey 02:03 to reach them during typhoon seasons. 02:06 Journeys that would take 02:07 a week by boat can be traveled 02:10 in just a few hours time with AWA aircraft. 02:14 For this reason, AWA was established here 02:17 to be able to support 02:19 the smaller outlying islands with aviation, 02:23 and help carry aid, 02:24 supplies and pastors to these remote islands. 02:29 The history of this project has not been a smooth one. 02:32 A couple years ago, 02:33 this project suffered some major setbacks, 02:36 has been sitting vacant ever since. 02:39 The LaBore Family have been missionaries 02:42 with Adventist World Aviation, serving in Guyana since 2005. 02:47 When the LaBores heard 02:49 of the needs of this project in the Philippines, 02:52 they prayerfully made the decision to relocate 02:55 from their mission field in Guyana 02:57 to this project in the Philippines 02:59 in an effort to revive 03:01 this much needed aviation outfit. 03:04 Our family started as missionaries in 2005, 03:08 we went to Guyana, South America. 03:09 And we spent over nine and a half years 03:12 there setting up a mission aviation program. 03:14 And we flew over 7,000 people in our airplanes, 03:17 affected a lot of lives down there. 03:19 It was a great work. We really enjoyed it. 03:20 God was a blessing in everything 03:22 that we did there. 03:23 And it's amazing, really that we did, 03:25 it was by His grace alone. 03:26 And when we saw the Philippines project 03:29 having some trouble a few years back, 03:31 I talked to the Pastor Rick Swaningson, 03:33 just mentioning that I would, I would love to come down 03:36 and just see what I could do to help get it back on track. 03:38 And he thought that was a great idea. 03:41 You know, and I felt the experience 03:42 that we gained in Guyana would apply here 03:44 and we'd be able to really put some knowledge 03:48 into how we might set up a good program here. 03:51 And now that I'm here, 03:52 I feel even more encouraged that we're on the right track. 03:54 And this is really what God wants us to do. 03:56 And we know that we're going to see 03:58 some amazing things happen in His timing. 04:00 We have to be patient, but I know that He has a plan. 04:03 And I expect that will be gradually revealed 04:05 as we progress in this project. 04:07 So we're pretty excited about it. 04:08 When the LaBores transitioned here from Guyana, 04:11 they left the Guyana project 04:12 in very capable hands of other AWA missionaries. 04:17 Bill, Laura and their family 04:20 are now ready to embark on a new adventure 04:22 of raising a project from the ground 04:25 and with God's blessings, 04:27 transform it into a very busy and active aviation base. 04:33 We're just really excited to be here. 04:35 We've been waiting for several years 04:37 to make the transition from Guyana to the Philippines, 04:40 we saw such a need here. 04:43 Our teammates are doing wonderful work in Guyana. 04:45 So we're really happy about that. 04:47 And we're just excited to be here 04:49 in Palawan and to pick up the project 04:52 and take it to new levels. 04:54 The idea that, you know, 04:56 we might be able to be involved in some small way 04:59 of really bringing this thing to fruition 05:01 or maybe to the plan that God originally had for it. 05:06 Yes, it is emotional and as I think 05:10 there's no better place to be 05:11 than in the center of God's will. 05:13 And when you know that this is where God wants you, 05:15 there's a sense of connection 05:17 you feel with the Lord and that to me means a lot. 05:20 I just mean, that's why I'm a missionary 05:22 to be honest with you, I just like that. 05:24 I like to see God work, I like to be in situations 05:27 where I know I can't do it 05:28 that God's going to have to work and do it 05:30 and I can see Him do things that just, 05:32 you just don't get to see back home often. 05:34 Over the past few years, the Philippines project 05:37 has been without aviation operations, 05:39 because there was no pilot or aircraft in place. 05:43 Not having aviation operations 05:45 has been a great setback for this project. 05:48 A large portion of the work 05:50 being done here involves aircraft. 05:53 When the plane was sent back for repairs, 05:56 and the pilots left, the project suffered greatly. 05:59 However, this did not mean that the project laid dormant 06:03 while they awaited new leadership. 06:06 Faithful local missionaries 06:08 continued their work despite the absence 06:11 of a project manager or pilot. 06:14 Adventist World Aviation is blessed to have 06:17 these local missionaries dedicated 06:19 to the work of AWA. 06:22 They faithfully continued working within the community 06:25 without knowing 06:26 when more missionaries might be joining them. 06:30 Edgar is a pastor 06:33 and he is our base manager here. 06:35 He has kept the spark alive in this property. 06:37 He's been managing our property 06:38 that we've had here for about 10 years. 06:42 Keeping it active, keeping it clean, 06:44 watching over it, making sure that, you know, 06:46 it's protected and now that we're here, 06:50 I'm even more impressed with his abilities. 06:52 Both he and Raylene are a great team. 06:56 Raylene supports him in many ways 06:58 and they work together. 06:59 And this team we've had here 07:01 there's been so much work to do. 07:02 Having Edgar is irreplaceable. 07:05 So we've been grateful for his expertise 07:08 and also I know I'm going to learn guitar from playing, 07:12 from being with him as he plays excellent guitar, 07:14 as does Raylene. 07:15 And also, you know, 07:18 he's a good pastor and he's done a lot. 07:20 He's started church here 07:21 and very active with other churches also 07:25 and working with people in the area. 07:26 He's a true evangelist, and so we appreciate him. 07:29 I really am going to enjoy living out here with them 07:32 and working with them soon. 07:34 The Espinosa Family are AWA base managers 07:37 who have been working here for years. 07:39 And while they awaited the LaBores to arrive, 07:43 they faithfully worked 07:44 within the community as missionaries, 07:47 ministering to their own Filipino people. 07:50 They eagerly awaited the arrival of the LaBores 07:53 and are anxious to get this base fully operational again. 07:57 And we're happy that 07:59 the LaBores Family are the here. 08:01 We've been waiting for it to come 08:04 because of many years 08:06 of without any manager you know. 08:09 We will start the operation 08:12 of flying the plane 08:15 and go to different places 08:18 to help, to help this, 08:22 the people in the Philippines and we were so excited. 08:27 This project is not for our family 08:30 and for any individual, 08:32 but this project is for the Lord's. 08:34 Even when things seemed bleak, 08:36 the Espinosas have worked faithfully 08:39 to prepare for the arrival of the new missionary family. 08:43 They knew that God would bring someone here to this project. 08:47 Even as the years passed with no hope in sight, 08:51 the Espinosas faithfully continued their work 08:54 knowing that God had a plan for them 08:57 and for this aviation mission project. 09:00 I was in a missionary work 09:04 since I graduated in high school. 09:07 And my promise to the Lord is, 09:10 I will work even though no one asked me to do it. 09:15 And the Lord will bless us even though no funding, 09:24 but I know the Lord will feed us 09:27 and we will work 09:28 as long as there is something to work on. 09:31 We are thankful. 09:33 We are grateful for the Lord 09:36 that the long stay 09:42 here becomes getting brighter. 09:46 I mean, there is hope, there is, you know, 09:51 a little light come up 09:53 and maybe this light will become 09:56 more bigger and bigger as the day went by 10:00 because our manager is already here, 10:02 and we praise the Lord for that. 10:04 Christine is another dedicated AWA missionary. 10:09 She has served with Adventist World Aviation 10:12 to her fellow Filipino people alongside the Espinosa Family. 10:17 Christine uses her talents as a full-time bookkeeper, 10:20 and logistical coordinator for the Philippines project. 10:24 She handles all the legal paperwork 10:27 and permitting that is required by the local government 10:30 in order to have a project 10:32 established here in the Philippines. 10:34 Christine is just an amazing woman. 10:37 She's been with us for a long time, 10:39 and she's so humble, and just willing to do 10:42 whatever it takes to keep this dream alive down here 10:45 and to keep this project going. 10:47 Without her we would not be here today guaranteed, 10:50 because it really, 10:52 she's kept the foundation active all this time, 10:53 even when we didn't have 10:54 an operation really working here. 10:56 She managed to keep it alive until we could get here. 10:59 And so she does all the accounting, 11:00 she does the taxes, she keeps the, or up the, 11:04 you know the foundation legal from a financial standpoint. 11:07 And, you know, among other things, 11:10 she coordinates projects, she has helped 11:12 with all of our volunteer transportation 11:14 and really is very well networked also. 11:18 She knows people all over Puerto Princesa 11:20 so we can be assisted when we need things 11:22 that she knows how to find them, 11:23 how to get it done. 11:24 And she's connected with the local mission. 11:27 So really another irreplaceable individual 11:30 that I'm proud to be working with. 11:31 For many years, the AWA team has just been 11:34 the Espinosas and herself working to keep 11:37 this project afloat. 11:39 When she got word that 11:40 the LaBores would be joining them, 11:42 Christine was overjoyed. 11:46 Well finally, after some years of waiting, 11:51 the LaBore Family has finally launched here 11:54 in the Philippines, 11:56 and we're really happy that the project 11:58 is now going to resume its operations again. 12:03 It is a relief, because it's been so many years 12:06 that we were just waiting. 12:10 And it really takes patience 12:13 and trust in the Lord that, 12:16 you know, this is His work, and in this time, 12:21 it will move forward again. 12:23 Christine is very dedicated to her work 12:25 even when there was no help in sight. 12:28 For years she prayed that 12:30 another missionary family would come and join them, 12:33 and they could relaunch aviation operations. 12:37 She knew that in God's perfect timing, 12:40 He would send someone there to help them 12:42 rebuild this project that would once again 12:45 be fully operational. 12:47 She patiently continued her work 12:49 preparing for that day. 12:51 We are excited to once more fly out 12:54 to the far-flung areas 12:57 where we can reach other peoples 13:00 who are in need of the gospel work. 13:03 And we fully need your support 13:07 and prayers for the furtherance 13:12 of the work of AWA Philippines. 13:15 When the LaBores arrived in the Philippines, 13:18 they had a team of very dedicated missionaries 13:20 waiting for them. 13:22 It's really humbling 13:23 and to look at the Espinosa Family 13:26 and Christine in that... 13:29 There was time here 13:31 where there just wasn't nothing happening, 13:32 no project because the families were gone and it didn't, 13:35 just nothing was going on. 13:36 And yet they remain faithful in staying with it 13:40 and managing the base here at Sapangan, 13:43 and Christine managing the foundation, 13:44 keeping it alive, having a faith that, 13:48 to me is extraordinary to realize that 13:51 they stuck it out in faith knowing that 13:53 AWA was going to send another family here 13:55 to put this project on track. 13:57 And I'm not saying that's us, 13:59 and we're going to do our best by God's grace. 14:01 It certainly is going to be 14:02 all His glory though if it does come about. 14:04 We're going to do what we can but, 14:06 but I just, 14:08 the commitment of these individuals 14:09 that I've seen here is rare, 14:11 and I wish we could find about 200 more of them frankly, 14:15 people like this. 14:17 They're inspiration to our family, 14:18 and it's going to motivate us to work hard 14:20 and do what we can to bring this dream to reality 14:23 because of their faithfulness. 14:24 Together, this group of dedicated people 14:28 are passionate about reviving this project 14:31 to once again be an impactful mission base. 14:46 Jud Wickwire, Vice President of Operations 14:50 is also heavily involved 14:51 in helping relaunch the Philippines project. 14:55 Jud has traveled here many times to this project, 14:58 often with dental teams and evangelistic mission trips. 15:03 During his visit in the Philippines, 15:05 Jud has been establishing relationships 15:07 with local church leadership. 15:09 He visits with Pastor Malabad, 15:12 President of the Palawan Seventh-day Adventist 15:14 Conference and discusses ways 15:16 that Adventist World Aviation 15:18 can support the churches in this area. 15:22 Adventist World Aviation has a supported ministry. 15:24 And that's why we're sitting 15:25 here talking today is because our purpose 15:27 of Adventist World Aviation is to support the work 15:29 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church worldwide 15:31 wherever that transportation service is needed. 15:34 And this is a perfect example of Adventist World Aviation 15:38 partnering with the Palawan Adventist Mission 15:42 to further their work, 15:44 to strengthen their ability to reach the people 15:47 who are far out, more difficult to reach. 15:50 And, again, a perfect example of a partnership that helps 15:55 the Palawan Adventist Mission do more, 15:57 and we can provide that resource to do that. 16:00 It's a great blessing to all of us 16:03 here in Palawan Adventist Mission. 16:06 And we appreciate so much, your commitment and dedication. 16:10 And I know for sure 16:13 that this is not an accident, this is God's providence. 16:17 God led you, has led you to come here in Palawan. 16:21 So the people here will be blessed 16:23 and will know Jesus as, you know, 16:27 the only way where they can, you know, get help, 16:31 and eventually be saved when Jesus comes. 16:35 Each of Adventist World Aviation projects 16:38 throughout the world seek to serve 16:40 the local Seventh-day Adventist Church. 16:43 The first step is establishing this is by 16:45 creating strong connections and partnerships 16:48 with local Seventh-day Adventist Conferences. 16:51 Each of AWA projects have strong partnerships 16:55 with Seventh-day Adventist Conferences in the area. 16:58 The goal is to work hand in hand 17:00 with the Global Adventist Church 17:02 and offer them aviation support to transport pastors, 17:07 Bibles, Bible workers to areas that are not easily accessible 17:12 by normal means of transportation. 17:15 Each of the AWA global projects works in harmony 17:19 with the local Seventh-day Adventist Church 17:22 and never independently. 17:24 One of the philosophies 17:26 of Adventist World Aviation is that 17:27 we don't see ourselves as an independent ministry. 17:30 We are independent from receiving funding 17:33 from the General Conference 17:35 of Seventh-day Adventists, but we are supporting ministry. 17:37 We come into countries, 17:38 and the first thing we try to do is get together 17:40 with the local officials in the church to find out 17:43 how we can partner and work together. 17:45 And the Philippines is no exception to the rule. 17:48 We're going to be working very closely 17:50 with Pastor Malabad, 17:51 who is the president of a mission here in Palawan, 17:54 as well as the union president, 17:56 division personnel and they have many believers 18:00 in various areas of the islands that they can't even support 18:03 because they can't get out there. 18:05 And we can really I think increase the, you know, 18:10 the support that's available 18:11 to these churches through our aviation program. 18:14 Here in Palawan, 18:15 there are many surrounding islands 18:17 that pastors cannot reach without the aid of aircraft. 18:21 In past years, many of these islands 18:23 have been unreached. 18:25 And people living on them 18:26 never received the gospel message. 18:29 The future plans for the AWA mission base 18:32 heavily involve evangelism outreach 18:34 and transporting pastors to these outlying areas. 18:38 We look forward to servicing 18:41 the other missionaries where they need to reach 18:46 far-flung areas as well as the pastors 18:50 who are assigned in the other islands 18:52 where normal transportation 18:55 takes so long especially when the rainy season 19:01 or does the typhoon season 19:04 is in the country, 19:07 and sea 19:12 or water transportation is 19:16 very hard to access. 19:21 Well, if you summarize it, you know, 19:22 a project like this, you know, what is the ultimate goal? 19:24 I mean, it's really very simple. 19:27 I mean, the whole idea behind all this, 19:29 it's not about airplanes, it's not about medical work. 19:32 It's not about even outreach, all these things we have to do, 19:34 it's important. 19:36 But the idea is to show people 19:40 that there is a God that loves them, 19:42 and through our actions, 19:46 not just by thumping a Bible over their head, 19:48 but by actually demonstrating that 19:50 we care about them, 19:52 and we're here to help them, we're here to serve them. 19:56 That is what's going to break down barriers. 19:58 The goal is to take as many people with us 20:01 as we can to God's kingdom. 20:02 I mean, there's no other reason for us being here. 20:05 If we're not doing that, we're just wasting time. 20:08 It boils down to the fact 20:09 that we want to share God's love. 20:12 And we have to do mission aviation, 20:14 medical work and outreach to do that, 20:15 well, then that's what we're going to do. 20:16 And I believe that 20:18 is the ultimate vehicle that we will use. 20:19 But I know for a fact that there are people 20:22 all over these islands 20:24 where the Holy Spirit has been working with them. 20:27 Ultimately, that's what we want. 20:28 We want to bring peace to people's lives. 20:29 We want to help them understand that 20:31 there's a God that loves them 20:32 and in fact God Jesus is coming back again. 20:34 And He's going to take all of us 20:36 home to His kingdom rich and poor, 20:38 Filipino, American, doesn't matter who you are, 20:40 or what's walk of life you come from, He loves us all. 20:46 Over the past years, Adventist World Aviation 20:49 has organized evangelistic mission trips 20:52 to come to Palawan and hold evangelistic meetings 20:55 all over the island. 20:57 These teams often had more than 10 evangelists, 21:01 each holding meetings 21:02 in separate locations around Palawan. 21:05 These meetings resulted 21:06 in many giving their lives to Christ, 21:09 and were baptized into the Adventist Church. 21:13 In the village of Sapangan, where AWA's mission base lies, 21:18 many new believers accepted Jesus Christ. 21:21 However, there were no churches in the area for these people 21:24 to come together to worship. 21:27 In 2008, a simple bamboo church 21:30 was built to be a place of worship 21:32 for these new believers. 21:34 They decided to have 21:36 an evangelistic campaign here at Sapangan. 21:39 And they baptized, 21:40 I don't exactly know how many souls, 21:42 but it was around 20 or so. 21:44 And they started a church. 21:47 I mean, it's right now it's not actually a church, 21:49 it's still a company. 21:50 But they built a building there 21:54 and they have a worship place to worship there. 21:56 You know, the Espinosas were very instrumental in that. 21:58 Edgar's been faithful as a pastor 22:00 here working with these people, meeting in their homes, 22:02 dealing with even demon possession 22:04 and various things that you see down here. 22:06 Things that would make Americans cringe honestly, 22:09 but he's been able to deal with, 22:10 by simply, you know, 22:12 surrendering to the Lord and letting Him work using him 22:15 as His mouthpiece. 22:17 And so we're very excited 22:19 about the opportunity to work with His church. 22:21 And we know that 22:22 there are many believers out here 22:24 that God has worked with already. 22:25 The Holy Spirit is preparing hearts, 22:27 and I believe once we find them, 22:28 He's going to lead us to these areas 22:30 and we're going to be able to bring them in, 22:31 and that church is going to grow and so, 22:34 you can pray for that. 22:36 The church has stood strong for almost 10 years, 22:40 even despite the harsh jungle elements. 22:43 However, the church building 22:45 is now showing signs of distress 22:48 and in much need of repairs. 22:50 Unfortunately, termites have come in 22:53 and ravish the bamboo structure. 22:56 One of the first projects LaBores 22:58 intend to do is fix the church. 23:01 Bill LaBore, Edgar Espinosa 23:03 and Jud Wickwire survey the church 23:06 and determined that all of the Sawali, 23:09 the bamboo weave material needs to be replaced. 23:13 Together, they take measurements 23:15 and devise a plan to revive this church 23:18 and save it from disrepair. 23:20 So we're here in Sapangan in this church 23:22 that we're in here was started in 2008. 23:25 And it's held up pretty well, 23:28 but it is in need of repair now. 23:31 Termites have taken their toll, 23:32 the elements have taken their toll, 23:33 and we're going to refurbish this church 23:36 so it can last a few more years 23:38 until we get another construction project 23:40 down to actually build a concrete church. 23:42 And we're looking forward to that. 23:43 In the meantime, between now and then, 23:45 we're going to be growing the church 23:46 to increase the membership. 23:48 And actually right now, it's only a company, 23:50 by that time you will have by God's grace church. 23:54 This church was built in 2008 and we've been here 23:57 for nine years 24:01 and we are trying to improve the church. 24:07 So Edgar given us 24:08 a list of materials that we need, 24:10 and we're gonna head off to town 24:11 and pick up what we need, 24:13 so we can make this church look pretty 24:15 much like the new you can get. 24:17 The men go into town to pick up the massive rolls 24:20 of Sawali needed in order to repair the church. 24:24 The improvement of the church is only a temporary fix. 24:28 However, there are plans 24:31 to establish a construction crew 24:33 and have them come over from North America 24:35 on a mission trip to build a larger, 24:39 more permanent concrete block church 24:41 to replace this one. 24:43 We need to renovate the existing building 24:44 because it's kind of falling apart. 24:47 That's not going to be too bad, 24:49 maybe $2,000 we can actually get that church 24:52 to where it's going to be fine for a couple more years. 24:54 But then we're going to grow the church 24:56 through evangelistic efforts and Bible work efforts. 24:58 And once we grow the church enough 25:00 and the next thing we're going to do is bring down 25:02 a crew to build a concrete church 25:04 and actually get it established 25:05 as a full-fledged mission church. 25:08 Growing and expanding the church 25:09 is a high priority 25:11 for AWA missionaries living here in Palawan. 25:23 Despite the absence 25:25 of an airplane to provide them with transportation, 25:27 the mission team keeps very busy. 25:31 None of the team members sit idly by 25:34 while they wait for the aircraft to arrive. 25:36 Each missionary uses their God 25:39 given talents to share His love with the local Filipino people. 25:44 This mission project is truly a team effort. 25:48 The dedication and willingness 25:50 of the existing mission team is unmatched. 25:54 Although the conditions and situations are not ideal, 25:58 they all know that God's timing is best. 26:02 With the whole team here working together, 26:04 they are now able to efficiently 26:07 and effectively move forward 26:10 to bring this aviation base back 26:13 to full operational capacity. 26:16 Laura LaBore is a pilot, 26:18 a nurse and an airplane mechanic. 26:21 The aircraft that 26:23 she will be flying here in the Philippines 26:25 is currently being refurbished 26:27 and overhauled in the United States. 26:30 Before it is shipped to the Philippines, 26:32 it needs to be in perfect working order. 26:36 Ironically, this airplane 26:38 that is being worked on is the same airplane 26:42 that Laura first flew 26:43 when they launched to their project in Guyana. 26:47 Laura is very excited to be reunited 26:50 with one of her favorite airplanes. 26:53 Right now we have a plane that's been worked on, 26:55 it's the same plane that I used to fly 26:57 when we are in Guyana is the Pathfinder 1 airplane. 27:00 And we are excited to be able to bring it 27:04 to the Philippines. 27:05 Now it is back in the States, it is being worked on 27:08 and we're going to get it here to the Philippines 27:10 in the next three to five months. 27:12 And I can't believe 27:14 I'll be flying the same plane again. 27:16 I'm looking forward to it, it's my first love. 27:18 This aircraft is almost completed 27:20 and ready to be shipped to the Philippines. 27:23 It is being meticulously reviewed, 27:26 inspected and updated to make sure that 27:29 it is in perfect working order 27:31 before it is returned to the mission field. 27:34 Dedicated volunteers in North America have been 27:37 working on this plane for months. 27:40 Soon the plane will be completed 27:42 and ready to be 27:43 put in service in the Philippines, 27:45 where it can be used to save people 27:48 both physically and eternally. 27:51 This project here in the Philippines 27:54 is in the beginning stages of what will soon 27:57 be a very powerful aviation base. 28:03 Each missionary in the AWA Philippines team 28:06 knows that God has great plans for their lives. 28:10 Together, they follow God's leading 28:14 as they push forward. 28:19 Our mission here isn't just about aviation. 28:22 Yes, we have a plane or we will be getting a plane, 28:26 but you can fly all day long 28:27 and if you don't win anybody to Jesus Christ, 28:29 then what are we doing here? 28:31 So it goes beyond that. 28:32 The plan is just opens up doors to people's hearts 28:36 and medical work just opens up doors 28:38 to people's hearts. 28:40 And we've enjoyed going 28:41 and getting involved with people 28:43 on a one to one basis, 28:45 and we're looking forward 28:47 to where those doors are going to lead. 28:50 We're really, really looking forward 28:52 to helping the people here and ultimately, 28:55 through helping them physically, 28:57 you hope to help them spiritually. |
Revised 2020-07-23