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Battle for the Mind

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Participants: Pr. Louis Torres

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01:00 Welcome to "Digging Up the Future"
01:02 Bible Prophecy Exposed.
01:03 We're glad each of you are here this evening.
01:07 Are you glad to be here? All right.
01:10 I'm glad that you're here.
01:12 And you know, we have-
01:14 we have been studying about many different things
01:16 but tonight we're gonna be considering pain and suffering.
01:20 Why do good things or bad things
01:22 rather happen to good people?
01:23 What about human suffering?
01:25 What does the Book of Revelation
01:26 had to say about it?
01:27 I don't about you but if we're considering
01:29 subjects like that, there's a lot of people
01:31 that feel very strongly about that subject.
01:33 Isn't that right?
01:35 I mean, so we need to pray
01:36 that the Lord's spirit will be here especially
01:38 because I believe that for us here,
01:41 I'm sure there's someone here that has that question
01:43 and then those watching as well.
01:44 So let's bow our heads
01:46 and just invite God's presence this evening.
01:48 Father in heaven, You are the God of the good.
01:53 We get the word good from You
01:55 and good bye and God be with you.
01:58 But when we think about things that are, are bad
02:01 we sometimes don't know what to do and we are troubled.
02:05 Sometimes we think very bad things about You.
02:10 Tonight we want to kind of unpack that.
02:11 That we ask that Your spirit will be with us,
02:14 be with our speaker, give him just Your spirit
02:17 as he deals with this important subject
02:20 and we come in Christ name, amen.
02:23 Well, I'm thankful Jesus is coming again.
02:25 Aren't you?
02:26 Let's stand together and sing "Marvelous Message We Bring."
02:40 Marvelous message we bring
02:44 Glorious carol we sing
02:48 Wonderful word of the King
02:51 Jesus is coming again
02:55 Coming again, coming again
03:02 Maybe morning, maybe noon
03:06 Maybe evening, and maybe soon
03:10 Coming again, coming again
03:17 Oh what a wonderful day that will be
03:23 Jesus is coming again
03:31 Can be seated.
03:32 Man, you sound wonderful.
03:34 And do you believe it?
03:35 Do you believe Jesus is coming again?
03:37 Amen. I believe it's true.
03:39 Well, Chris Albrecht our trumpetist
03:42 is going to come and play for us.
03:45 Anthea is going to accompany him as they,
03:47 they play and reflect on "The Love of God."
07:42 Amen and amen.
07:44 You just sit and listen to that all night long, could you?
07:47 It's wonderful.
07:49 Thank you so much, Chris and Anthea.
07:51 Let us pray together again as we go into the subject.
07:53 Father in heaven, thank You for Your revelations
07:56 concerning all that trouble us,
07:58 and also all that brings us hope.
08:00 Bless us as we study now in Jesus name, amen.
08:06 As I was mentioning in another segment,
08:10 the Twin Towers had took place.
08:14 We were at a time in South Dakota.
08:17 We had no idea what was going on
08:20 and the phone rang and there was a
08:23 friend of ours from Australia.
08:26 And he called and said
08:28 what in the world is going on up there?
08:31 And my wife said, what are you talking about, Bruce?
08:34 Turn on the television he said on the phone.
08:36 And so my wife turned on the television
08:39 to see the second plane hit the towers.
08:44 Obviously it was something that no one anticipated at least
08:48 as far as we know
08:52 but it was a tremendous disaster.
08:54 I remember going there right after
08:57 to Twin Towers to help out
09:01 and it was a very, very sobering moment
09:09 for people in New York.
09:12 People in New York are pretty hard cored people.
09:18 I know because I grew up there.
09:20 And you deal with so much in New York
09:23 that you pretty much become hard shell.
09:29 And it takes a lot to move people in New York.
09:34 But that devastation made a lot of people sober
09:38 and the lot of people begin to ask questions.
09:41 Why? Why did it happen?
09:45 And what does it mean?
09:47 I should tell you that I read a book
09:50 that was written back in about 1901.
09:55 And it's interesting that the page number of it-
09:59 it happened to be volume 9, page 11.
10:04 What did I say?
10:06 It was volume 9 and page 11.
10:10 And the author was writing about
10:12 seeing some buildings in New York.
10:17 She specifically mentions New York
10:20 and saying that the fireman tried to turn out the fire,
10:26 but it was of no avail.
10:30 The author writes that it was like pitch,
10:35 the buildings went up in fire
10:38 and the fireman all they could do
10:39 is stand there and watch.
10:43 And the author was writing about buildings
10:46 that just went up and up and up skyscrapers.
10:50 There's no question friends,
10:53 that God still thus reveals
10:59 what is about to take place.
11:01 But listen, tonight we're going to study
11:04 this particular subject
11:05 on why is it that so much suffering takes place?
11:10 Why is it that the good suffer,
11:13 the holy, the innocent.
11:16 Sometimes the good suffer for the bad
11:20 or with the bad or by the bad.
11:25 Why is it that good honest people suffer?
11:30 Why is it that honest fathers and mothers?
11:34 Why is it that innocent children suffer?
11:37 These questions cause concern.
11:41 Many people are seeking to financers
11:43 and the more that we reach
11:45 the closing times of earth's history,
11:48 the more disastrous that we see,
11:51 the more questions that will be raised.
11:55 Is that true?
11:58 You think of the devastations that some of these tornados
12:03 or some of these hurricanes or earthquakes
12:10 and then some of these diseases
12:11 that are lurking here and there.
12:16 There's trouble everywhere.
12:17 There seems to be a dark,
12:19 dark shadow on planet earth.
12:25 And the question is if God is so good
12:30 then why does He permit evil?
12:34 If God is really in control,
12:37 why does He allow things to happen?
12:41 I remember my mother asking that question often
12:46 because there are many things that happened to her.
12:51 As I think about my poor mother
12:54 who was abandoned by her husband,
12:58 left with six children to rise by herself
13:03 and then she had cancer
13:05 and she prayed that somehow
13:07 God would have mercy on her and let her live until
13:10 we could take care of ourselves.
13:13 And then after that it was arthritis
13:16 and then cancer again.
13:19 And mother would just plagued with the lot of suffering,
13:22 a lot of things that happened in her life.
13:25 And there's no question
13:28 that in her mind there was that thought.
13:35 Why is it?
13:39 The Bible reveals where evil came from.
13:43 And in the Bible, if you have your Bibles
13:47 let us turn to Matthew 13:24-30.
13:52 And we find there a parable.
13:56 And this particular parable in Matthew Chapter 13,
14:00 Jesus is talking about some seeds
14:04 that are being sown.
14:08 If you notice in verse 24 it says,
14:12 "The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man
14:14 which sowed good seed in the field"
14:16 Do you see that?
14:18 And if you read through the parable
14:19 and you see that it says,
14:21 "But while men slept, his enemy came
14:23 and sowed tares among the wheat,
14:25 and went his way.
14:27 But when the blade was sprung up,
14:29 and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
14:32 So the servants of the householder
14:34 came and said unto him,
14:35 Sir, did not we sow good seed in thy field?
14:39 From whence then hath it tares?"
14:42 And verse 28 it says, who has done it?
14:45 "An enemy hath done this.
14:50 The servants said unto him,
14:51 wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
14:55 But he said, Nay, lest while ye gather up the tares,
14:58 ye root up also the wheat with them."
15:01 Notice it says then that the good seed was sown
15:06 but once it began to grow, what also showed up?
15:10 Tares.
15:12 And the question was then,
15:13 where that these tares come from?
15:16 "So the servants of the householder
15:18 came and said unto them, do you want us to buckle up?"
15:22 Where did they come from?
15:24 Well, you remember the answer.
15:27 An enemy have done this.
15:29 Now later on, when the disciples were by-
15:33 well, Jesus by themselves
15:35 then that Jesus began to explain the parable.
15:38 And if you notice in verse 37
15:41 He said, "Unto to them,
15:42 He who sows the good seed" is who?
15:46 "The Son of Man."
15:47 So who created this world?
15:51 The Son of Man.
15:52 What did the Son of Man plant on this earth?
15:55 Good or bad seed?
15:57 Good seed.
15:59 Was Adam and Eve created bad or created good?
16:02 They were created good.
16:03 In fact if you read verse 31 of Genesis Chapter 1 it says,
16:06 "Behold everything was not just good but very good."
16:11 And so God created everything good
16:14 and planted good people on planet earth.
16:17 So then the parable is illustrating the reality
16:20 that the Creator put good things here
16:22 but then an enemy sowed what?
16:25 Tares.
16:27 And enemy sowed what?
16:28 Tares.
16:29 In verse 38 "The field is the" what?
16:33 "The world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom,
16:38 but the tares are the sons" of whom?
16:41 "Of the wicked one."
16:43 And verse 39 it says,
16:45 "The enemy who sowed them is" who?
16:48 There you have it.
16:49 So according to the scriptures then,
16:51 did God create a bad world?
16:53 What's the answer?
16:55 No.
16:56 According to the scriptures God created a good world.
16:59 But also according to the scriptures
17:01 God says that the tares were also sown
17:05 and the question is where do they come from?
17:07 Who sowed them?
17:09 And the answer is who?
17:10 The devil.
17:12 Now the question is who is the devil then?
17:16 What is he?
17:17 There are lots of people who believe there's a devil.
17:20 You know, that, right?
17:23 They think it's just a figment of the imagination.
17:29 But the Bible speaks about the devil
17:32 and in fact the Bible gives him several names.
17:36 I want you to know notice various names
17:38 in the scriptures that the devil has.
17:42 Notice that he is called the devil, okay.
17:46 He is called Satan.
17:48 He's called Lucifer, the Dragon,
17:50 Serpent, Beelzebub,
17:51 Angel of the bottomless pit,
17:54 Abaddon, Belial, Apollyon,
17:57 Lier, Adversary, Roaring Lion,
18:00 Deceiver, Murderer,
18:02 Accuser of the brethren, Covering Cherub,
18:04 Prince of the power of the air, The tempter.
18:09 Those are many names.
18:11 Now we think of names,
18:13 the reasons why many names are given.
18:15 It's because in the scriptures and then in the ancient times
18:18 when people are given the name,
18:20 a significant of their character
18:22 or a particular characteristic that they had.
18:24 The Native Americans used to do that.
18:26 Here in this country they wouldn't give names
18:29 like sitting bull, okay, et cetera.
18:33 By the way many of us have names
18:35 that we don't even know what they mean,
18:36 but they actually have some meaning.
18:39 For example my name Louis means strong.
18:42 My last name Torres means towers.
18:46 So strong towers,
18:50 that's a big name to live up to isn't it?
18:53 Especially when I'm short tower.
18:57 But names had meanings.
18:59 They had some significant and that's why for example
19:03 that the other night we're talking about Christ
19:05 and how many names did He have?
19:07 Over 40 names, you remember that.
19:10 Which means then that there are many, many titles given
19:14 because of the individual
19:16 who carries all the titles and all the names,
19:18 it means that they have a lot of influence,
19:21 may have a lot of power,
19:22 there's a characteristics about them
19:24 that may be good or evil but none the less
19:26 these names spell out
19:28 these different characteristics.
19:30 Now most people have the idea
19:33 that the devil is some half human, half creature,
19:38 half animal creature.
19:40 For example, how many of you ever have seen
19:43 the painting of the devil kind of with hooves,
19:46 you know, and with a tail
19:49 and then usually red as a goatee
19:53 and two horns right.
19:55 Usually he's painted red, correct.
19:58 And usually he has it what? A pitchfork.
20:02 And he's supposed to be in charge of what?
20:04 Of hell and he's the one that roast people around in hell,
20:07 so to speak, right.
20:09 In other words that's the picture of the devil.
20:12 I remember when I was a young lad as a Catholic boy,
20:18 I gave the nuns a lot of trouble.
20:27 I wish I could go back and apologize to them
20:29 but I don't think they are still alive
20:32 and I don't remember who they are anyway.
20:37 But in catechism I remember the warnings.
20:42 You better watch out
20:44 or the devil is gonna get hold of you.
20:48 Oh, that shook me up.
20:50 And I remember going to, to bed.
20:56 And when I was going to go to bed
20:58 it was dark underneath and somehow I had this idea
21:04 that the devil was hiding underneath my bed
21:07 and to ensure that he could not grab me
21:10 and pull me underneath into that darkness.
21:11 You know, what I would do?
21:13 I would take a running start and leap onto my bed
21:17 and I always succeeded in landing on the bed,
21:19 never getting pulled under.
21:24 I had that idea that the devil was some half human,
21:31 half animal creature.
21:35 But in reality that's a pagan concept.
21:39 That description is not found in the Bible.
21:42 The Bible on the contrary gave us a clear understanding
21:47 that the devil is a superior being
21:52 with high intellect and powers.
21:57 The scripture reveals that the devil
22:01 or called Satan was actually an angel
22:05 who was created in heaven.
22:08 When Jesus was on earth,
22:10 Jesus made a statement in Luke 10:18.
22:14 "I beheld" who?
22:16 "Satan fall from" where? "From heaven."
22:20 Now notice it says, "I beheld Satan fall from heaven."
22:23 And Jesus said this to the disciples
22:25 because the disciples had just been on a venture
22:28 of doing ministry and they came back
22:31 and they were rejoicing and said to the Lord,
22:33 Lord, the devils of subject unto us.
22:36 And the Lord said in essence
22:40 watch out, fellows, don't get high minded.
22:44 I saw Satan fall from heaven.
22:48 In other words, what's taking a hold of your spirit
22:52 is the same spirit that caused Satan to fall from where?
22:56 From heaven. Pride is a terrible thing.
22:59 What do you say? Pride is a terrible thing.
23:02 And so Jesus says that He saw Satan fall from heaven.
23:07 And now going to the Book of Revelation
23:09 we find that the Book of Revelation substantiates that
23:13 and the Book of Isaiah and Book of Ezekiel as well.
23:17 Looking at some of the prophet's writings
23:19 concerning Lucifer notice that in Isaiah 14:2 it says,
23:25 "How are you fallen from" Where?
23:28 "From heaven."
23:30 Notice that this is written where?
23:32 In the book of what? Isaiah.
23:34 Now there are some people who think that
23:36 in the Revelation Chapter 12, we'll go to that shortly
23:39 that the devil has fallen sometime in our time
23:42 because it's written in the Book of Revelation,
23:44 therefore he must have fallen way after.
23:46 But I want you to notice that the Book of Isaiah was written
23:50 about 500 years before Christ
23:53 and notice that right there it says what,
23:56 how are you going to fall?
24:01 How is it written?
24:03 "How are you fallen" from where?
24:05 "From heaven."
24:06 And what's his name here? Lucifer.
24:09 Which means light bearer.
24:11 "How are you fallen from heaven,
24:13 O Lucifer, son of the morning!
24:16 How are you cut down to the ground.
24:19 For you have said in your heart"
24:21 What will I do?
24:23 "I will ascend into heaven,
24:25 I will exalt my throne above the" What?
24:28 "The stars of God
24:30 and I will be like the Most High."
24:35 Okay.
24:38 At some point the scripture reveals
24:42 that God had created a beautiful angel,
24:44 his name was Lucifer, light bearer.
24:48 And this beautiful angel was in the very presence of God,
24:51 one of the exalted angels because the scripture says,
24:53 that the cherub is usually one
24:55 that's stands at the presence of God,
24:58 a high exalted privilege.
25:00 To be able to stand right by the presence of God,
25:03 you must agree that it was an honored position.
25:06 What do you say?
25:08 But the scripture reveals then that Lucifer
25:11 began to consider his abilities and his beauty
25:16 and decided that he could do better than God.
25:19 And so the scripture reveals then that,
25:22 that because of his beauty
25:24 Lucifer or Satan wanted to be like who?
25:28 Like the Most High.
25:30 In other words, he wanted to take the place of whom?
25:33 Of God.
25:34 And notice that it says, I, I, I.
25:40 And please remember this
25:42 that the word sin has what letter in the middle?
25:46 I. I, I, I.
25:53 The Bible then further says in Ezekiel,
25:57 "You were perfect in your" what?
26:00 "In your ways from the day you were created,
26:02 till iniquity was found in you."
26:06 Let me ask you the question.
26:07 And according to the Bible, did God make a devil?
26:11 What's the answer? No.
26:12 What did God make?
26:14 God made the perfect angel, a perfect being
26:18 with the ability to bear light to other galaxies,
26:22 and other places in the universe.
26:24 But for some reason unexplainable,
26:26 the scripture says,
26:27 that this particular being decided that
26:30 he was better than God and more capable than God
26:34 to run the universe
26:35 and therefore he began to exalt himself.
26:39 And the scripture says, you were perfect in your ways
26:42 from the day that you were created till what?
26:44 Till iniquity.
26:45 Was what? Found in you.
26:48 Now you may ask the question.
26:49 How is it possible for a perfect being to become evil?
26:55 Let me explain this mystery to you
26:59 and I'm going to do it hopefully in a way
27:01 that you will be able to capture it.
27:04 When God created, God created free moral agents.
27:09 What did He create? Free moral agents.
27:12 In other words God because He has love
27:17 wanted to be in the domain
27:19 where love existed and love cannot exist
27:23 without there being the ability to love.
27:27 In other words, this apparatus here,
27:29 this in animate object has no capacity
27:33 to respond to me in love.
27:35 Is that true? Yes or no?
27:38 So in order for me to experience love
27:41 I must then get together with somebody
27:43 who was capable of loving.
27:45 What do you say?
27:47 And that means that, that thing whatever it is
27:50 must have all the apparatus necessary
27:53 in order to process this thing called love,
27:55 experience this thing called love
27:57 and be able in turn to share love with others.
28:01 And so God created beings not machines, not robots
28:07 but beings who were able to freely
28:11 experience this thing that God is.
28:14 Because the Bible says, God is love.
28:23 So God made beings with that ability,
28:27 but when you make beings with their ability
28:29 there's always a potential that beings
28:31 who had the potential for good
28:33 can also have the potential for what?
28:36 For evil.
28:40 And so we find angels,
28:43 in fact the scripture reveals that
28:45 when Lucifer rebelled against God
28:49 that actually in this rebellion
28:53 He brought a third of the angels with him,
28:58 which we'll see.
29:00 Notice it says, "Your heart was lifted up because of" What?
29:04 "Your beauty, you corrupted your wisdom
29:06 for the sake of your splendor."
29:09 So the scripture then is clear concerning what happened.
29:13 Now notice the result of this rebellion.
29:17 The devil began to try to win the affection
29:20 of other beings in heaven
29:22 and the result was that a battle in the ensued.
29:26 In Revelation Chapter 12,
29:28 if we turn there to chapter 12 of Revelation
29:31 you will see what the scripture says.
29:33 Notice Revelations Chapter 12 and it says there,
29:36 verse 7 and there was war.
29:40 Where was this war?
29:42 Bible says, "There was war in," what?
29:45 "In heaven." Chapter 12 verse 7.
29:48 " Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;
29:51 and the dragon fought and his angels,
29:52 and prevailed not; neither was their place found
29:55 any more in heaven."
29:56 And so the scripture says,
29:58 that there resulted war.
30:04 There was war where? In heaven.
30:07 In the place of bliss and glory,
30:13 a place where God intended
30:15 and there would be eternal joy and happiness
30:18 there came sadness.
30:23 And in comparison to the high and holy state
30:27 that God and the angels have
30:30 would be the pain that heaven will experience.
30:34 With this great controversy that erupted in heaven.
30:38 Lucifer leading the angels rebelled against God
30:43 and in verse 9 it says- "He was" what?
30:47 "Cast to" where?
30:49 "To the earth and his angels were cast with him."
30:53 Now you may ask the question
30:56 why did God cast the devil to the earth,
30:58 why didn't He send it to Mars
31:00 or someplace else, right?
31:02 Isn't that question, right?
31:04 Why didn't they send it to another universe?
31:06 I will tell you why.
31:09 God made the angels
31:14 with the purpose of experiencing
31:16 and spreading this thing called love and joy.
31:22 When Lucifer and his angels rebel
31:25 God still purposed
31:27 that His plan would be satisfied and fulfilled
31:30 and so God went about to create
31:32 a different form of being more like Himself.
31:36 More like what? More like Himself.
31:39 In fact, if you read the scriptures
31:40 in Genesis 1:26, it says,
31:43 "In the image of God He created He Him,
31:46 male and female He created them."
31:50 So in the image of God He created man and woman.
31:55 God intended that you and I
31:57 would reflect the image and character of God.
32:02 The goodness, the love, the purity,
32:06 all the wonderful virtues of God,
32:08 He intended for us to have.
32:11 What do you think of that?
32:14 And you recognize where we are in time
32:18 and what has happened to human race?
32:20 We certainly do not reflect
32:22 all that God purposed and intended.
32:24 Is that true?
32:26 And so God created the human race
32:30 and God intended that the human race would repopulate
32:34 that which was lost
32:35 but the devil had brought certain charges against God
32:39 and one of the charges was that God was a tyrant
32:43 that if you disobey God, He would wipe you out.
32:47 In other words, there was no real freedom.
32:50 God was a selfish God.
32:53 Everything He wanted was for Himself.
32:55 And so if you went against Him,
32:58 you would find out very quickly
32:59 that you would pay the price.
33:02 Another point that he brought out was that
33:05 God was expecting all to blindly obey Him,
33:11 blind obedience.
33:14 These charges were brought against God.
33:16 And the problem is that when you're an honest person
33:19 and you're dealing with a dishonest person
33:21 it is hard to argue the point.
33:23 Is that true?
33:24 How many of you have dealt with that situation
33:26 where you're honest,
33:28 you're dealing with somebody who is dishonest
33:29 and it was very difficult to gather around it
33:32 because they could tell a lie but you couldn't.
33:37 And so charges brought against God
33:42 and because sin was something unheard of and not known,
33:47 God then had to allow time for this thing to develop
33:51 and show his true character.
33:53 You may ask why didn't God destroy Satan then
33:56 since God knows the end from the beginning?
33:58 Number one, because God is love.
34:00 Because God is what? Love.
34:02 And aren't you thankful for that?
34:04 You know, sometimes we will say,
34:06 why didn't God destroy Satan?
34:08 Well, how many times have you sinned?
34:11 How many times?
34:13 If you ask why then destroyed Satan,
34:15 then you have to ask the question,
34:16 why didn't God destroy you?
34:19 Aren't you glad that God has mercy?
34:20 What do you say?
34:22 Aren't you glad that God is patient,
34:24 the long suffering and not willing that any should perish?
34:28 And so God's love extended beyond that which-
34:34 we would say we require.
34:36 God wipe him out and then we have no problems,
34:38 but it wouldn't solve the problem
34:40 because if one being was wiped out
34:42 he would put the other angels at the position
34:48 where they would think,
34:49 well, if He did it to Satan
34:53 and we decide that we don't want to follow Him,
34:56 then we're next.
34:57 And then the whole host of heaven
35:00 would be with God out of what?
35:02 Fear rather than out of love.
35:06 And God does not work that way.
35:08 Listen, friends, you as a human being,
35:12 as sinful as you may be
35:14 still preferred to have somebody
35:16 who desires to love you out of their volition
35:19 rather than that you put a gun to them
35:21 and say you better love me or else.
35:24 Is that true, yes or no?
35:26 Not one of us want to feel like
35:28 we're being forced to have to accept somebody
35:31 or like somebody we rather wish
35:34 that we could actually come to the place
35:36 where we could do that out of our own hearts.
35:38 Is that true?
35:39 And so God prefers that we like Him,
35:45 can love out of our freewill.
35:48 When God created Adam and Eve,
35:51 the devil then decided
35:53 that he would command them, plan there if he could
35:57 and demonstrate that he could be
35:59 a better ruler than God himself.
36:02 And so when the scripture says
36:04 that the devil was cast on to the earth,
36:06 God had already informed Adam and Eve
36:09 about the problem.
36:11 God had created a perfect world.
36:13 If you would read in the Book of Genesis
36:15 everything was perfect
36:17 and Adam and Eve already knew about the situation
36:21 because God had put a tree to test them.
36:24 Now you may say to yourself,
36:26 why is it that God put a test?
36:28 Isn't that putting Adam and Eve at risk?
36:33 Why did He have to test them?
36:34 Well, let me ask you a question.
36:37 Suppose that you and your husband
36:42 were the only ones on planet earth
36:44 and your husband were to make a statement.
36:46 Honey, if there are million others
36:48 you would only be the other, only one.
36:51 How would she know?
36:58 But suppose there are lot of women around,
37:01 and your husband said, honey,
37:02 even if there are thousand other you are the only one.
37:05 Now how much does that mean to you?
37:09 Is it more meaningful yes or no?
37:11 Of course it is because it allows
37:15 love to be demonstrated.
37:17 It allows what? Love to be what?
37:20 Demonstrated.
37:21 How many of you like people who say
37:22 I love, I love, I love, I love,
37:24 but really don't love?
37:30 We don't like what we call "hypocrites," right?
37:33 We like people who are what?
37:35 Genuine.
37:36 Well, you can understand why God
37:40 prefers us to be the same, genuine in love.
37:44 Well, the devil then decided
37:50 that he would thwart God's plans.
37:54 And even though God had made man in His own image
37:57 and after His own likeness
37:59 and even though God had warned man
38:01 and said, don't touch the tree, don't eat of it,
38:05 you can eat everything else, but don't go there
38:10 because in the day that you eat there off you will die.
38:15 The test, the test of loyalty,
38:18 the test of free will,
38:19 the test of demonstration
38:22 of faithfulness to the one who had created them.
38:26 Now think of it, how big of request was that?
38:31 Was that a big request?
38:33 Can you consider God made a garden for them.
38:36 God made all truths
38:37 and so you can eat of every tree,
38:39 but just one, how many?
38:41 Just one that's all.
38:44 But that was sufficient.
38:46 For some reason the Bible doesn't explain
38:48 that Eve walked that way
38:49 and before we know it Adam and Eve fall.
38:53 And you can imagine Lucifer
38:55 watching over the whole scenario.
38:58 He purposed to put God in a position by tempting man
39:03 and casing man to fall into rebellion.
39:05 He was hoping one of two things.
39:07 He was hoping either that God would destroy man immediately
39:11 and he could say to the angelic host you see,
39:13 I told you He's a tyrant.
39:17 If you disobey Him, poof there you go.
39:20 But he was also hoping that if God did not destroy man
39:24 and just simply forgave him then he could claim, look,
39:28 You are inconsistent, if You forgive him
39:31 You will also have to forgive us
39:33 and allows back into heaven.
39:37 In either way he was hoping to win?
39:42 But he did not really fully know the love of God, did he?
39:47 He really did not understand the character of God
39:49 because when man fell
39:52 it brought great grief to heaven
39:55 but it also reveals greater love than ever before.
40:00 Because the Bible says then that as Eve
40:05 being the one to first be tempted
40:08 and then now tempting Adam and as they both fell
40:11 and the devil expecting the destruction of both
40:14 because sin brings what?
40:17 Separation.
40:18 According to Isaiah 59:2
40:22 the devil intended to separate man from God forever,
40:26 but God so loved that He could not bear the thought
40:30 of being separated from those that He had created.
40:33 And since Adam was deceived contrary to the devil
40:36 who actually rebelled in the full light
40:39 God gave man another opportunity
40:41 and revealed the plan
40:43 and we find that in Genesis 3:15.
40:47 I want you to notice that God said "I will" what?
40:50 "Put enmity between thy seed" and what?
40:53 "And her seed."
40:55 And so that seed will be whom? Christ.
40:59 In other words, here's the first gospel message
41:02 ever recorded and holy...
41:05 God promising that in the future
41:08 the seed would come and deliver mankind
41:12 and there would be enmity.
41:13 In other words, there would be
41:15 hatred between the good and the bad.
41:18 And so God intended them
41:20 that in spite of the fall the Son, his own Son,
41:25 the Creator of heaven and earth
41:27 would come and take the place of man.
41:31 Now think of this.
41:35 Man was guilty, Christ was innocent
41:40 and here's revealed a great love of God,
41:43 that God allowed the innocent to pay for the guilty.
41:49 Christ then was promised and it brought hope to mankind
41:54 that even though he fell into the bondage of sin,
41:58 yet through the promise of the Savior,
42:01 someday the deliver would come
42:03 and man could be restored
42:05 once again into union with God,
42:07 full cooperation with God
42:10 and at last live in harmony with God forever.
42:15 Good news, what do you say?
42:17 Well, the struggle then began
42:20 and it doesn't take long for the struggle to be seen.
42:24 In the great controversy between the heaven and earth
42:28 and on planet earth, you see then in those chapters,
42:33 chapter 1 and 2 Eden is lost.
42:35 And according to Romans 6:23, "The wages of sin is" what?
42:39 "Death.
42:40 But the gift of God is eternal life."
42:43 And of course the great controversy
42:45 is revealed as man falls and he stubbles into sin,
42:50 the plan is that at some point
42:53 the Savior would come and through the Savior
42:56 man would be lifted up again, restored again in character,
42:59 so man could then be restored
43:02 back to the Edenic home that was lost
43:04 and man could live again forever with his God.
43:08 How many of you would like to live with God?
43:11 I would love to live with God.
43:13 Everything that He has showed me of Himself is good
43:16 and I love to be with Him.
43:17 What do you say? And so that is the plan.
43:21 Now as we consider what transpires?
43:25 We find then through the Bible that is man falls into sin
43:30 and the devil seeks to plunge man
43:33 deeper and deeper into rebellion.
43:35 He is hoping somehow to completely obliterate
43:39 that which God has created
43:40 or completely instill in man his own image.
43:46 At the same time God seeks to restore in man
43:52 through the gift of Christ His own image.
43:55 And so you have the controversy between good and evil
43:58 and you also find that is mankind
44:02 accepts rebel in his heart,
44:04 he goes down, down, down,
44:06 becomes more degenerated, more rebellious,
44:08 more hateful, more evil,
44:11 so much so then that by the time-
44:13 the time of Noah came,
44:15 man was so desperately wicked that God have no alternative
44:18 then to destroy the human race and start all over again.
44:24 And no sooner does He start all over again,
44:26 then the devil infects one of Noah's boys,
44:29 his name is Ham
44:31 and the controversy continues again.
44:33 And of course the wicked begin to increase in numbers
44:36 and at the same time
44:38 the righteous increase in numbers.
44:40 You always have two sides throughout history.
44:43 The enemy seeking to gain control of mankind
44:46 and God seeking to still
44:48 restore in man His image just like this,
44:50 love and loyalty and honesty
44:55 and truths for us and goodness.
45:02 Finally, as the devil seeks to punch man
45:08 deeper and deeper the time comes
45:12 and the darkest hour of first history
45:15 when even the religious people of Christ,
45:17 even His own followers are so darkened
45:21 that they are now following things
45:24 that they think are pertained to God
45:26 but then reality are leading people away
45:29 into a different direction
45:30 with cruelty and hatred and lust
45:36 and selfishness and egotism.
45:40 When you come to time of Christ,
45:44 Christ appears on the earth for two purposes.
45:49 Number one, to show what man could become like
45:54 and number two, to show what God
45:57 was really liked...
45:59 You see through the generations
46:00 you got to the place where people began to think
46:03 that what the devil was saying was true.
46:05 That if you rebel against God you're going to be zapped.
46:09 Are you acquainted with that term?
46:11 That you're going to be hit with lightening.
46:14 I remember a particular story of a man in England
46:17 who was an atheist and he stood there
46:20 in Piccadilly Circus and defied God and said,
46:24 I can prove that there is no God and then he said
46:27 God if you're there strike me with lightening.
46:29 Go ahead I dare You and nothing happened.
46:32 So he told the others, you see I've told you,
46:34 there's no such as God
46:35 and are there any one to come and challenge me
46:38 to prove that there is a God.
46:40 And he kept on saying, God go ahead prove it.
46:44 Well, there's a little lady who was a Christian
46:47 standing in the back of the audience
46:49 and no one seemed to go up and defend God.
46:52 So she pressed through the crowd
46:55 and came up to the man and said,
46:56 I like to say something and the man said,
46:58 well, go ahead say on, lady, what do you have to say?
47:01 And the lady said, Mister, do you have any children?
47:05 And the man said, of course I have children.
47:07 Are they big or small?
47:09 Well, they are little kids right now.
47:11 Well, Mister, what if
47:13 your little boy came to you and said,
47:15 dad, I dare you to kill me.
47:22 Go ahead prove how big of a man you are.
47:25 Go ahead and kill me.
47:27 What would you say to your boy?
47:31 I would say silly little kid, go on your way.
47:35 And the little lady said, aren't you glad
47:37 that God thinks you're silly too.
47:47 The reality is that people think that God is a tyrant.
47:50 And if you really want to understand
47:52 this whole issue of human suffering read the Book of Job.
47:55 Read the book of what? Job.
47:57 You will find there, Job who is innocent with righteous,
48:02 you will find that the devil
48:03 goes to heaven to a special meeting.
48:06 He presents himself as a representative,
48:08 rightful representative of planet earth.
48:10 And when he asked
48:12 when the Lord asked to devil where you come from?
48:14 He said from walking to and fro the earth.
48:16 In another words I'm the director
48:18 the representative of the earth.
48:19 The Lord says, have you considered My servant Job?
48:24 You think you're the one
48:25 but have you considered My servant Job?
48:29 And the devil said, well, he's only serving you
48:30 because, you know, you have done all these things for him,
48:32 you protected him and if you take everything away from him
48:36 he will curse You.
48:38 You watch and see.
48:39 Go ahead and do it, You will see.
48:40 Well, God says all right,
48:42 go ahead and take everything from him you will see.
48:44 Well, the devil comes back down and all of a sudden
48:46 Job who was very wealthy and rich,
48:49 all of a sudden he has nothing.
48:52 And so the whole host of heaven is expecting Job's response.
48:57 And Job simply bows down and he says,
49:01 naked I came into the world and naked shall I return.
49:06 The Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away.
49:10 Blessed be the name of the Lord.
49:14 Can you imagine heaven saying, hey!
49:17 Yeah, Job!
49:20 Can you imagine the angels?
49:22 I mean, over here we go yeah!
49:25 I wonder what the angels did.
49:27 Took those harps and what?
49:29 They struck them, began to sing praises to God
49:32 that there was a person down here on earth
49:35 who loved God so much that even if he did not understand,
49:39 he still believes that God had his good at heart.
49:45 Then the devil went back to the meeting again
49:48 and said to the God well, you know, he's faithful to You
49:51 because You put a hedge about him.
49:53 Take Your hedge away
49:55 and you will see what he will do,
49:56 he will curse You.
49:57 And so the Lord says okay,
49:59 you can do that and you will see.
50:01 Well, Job gets filled with boils
50:06 and the expectation is that Job was what?
50:09 Will curse God.
50:11 Job does not understand and he makes a lot of questions
50:14 but he does not move from his integrity to his God.
50:19 And finally, after the wife says,
50:20 Job, look why don't you just curse God and die?
50:24 Job said, though he slay, yet well I trust Him.
50:30 Ah friends, if only you and I could have
50:33 that kind of faith what do you say?
50:35 If only you and I can have that kind of love.
50:38 Well, finally the time comes
50:42 when Christ comes to the earth
50:47 and Jesus reveals that there are two sides.
50:53 Notice as His opponents seek to controvert Him,
50:59 Jesus says to them "You are of" what?
51:04 "Your father the" what?
51:05 "The devil, and the lust of your father will you do.
51:09 He was a" What?
51:11 "A murderer." From when?
51:13 "From the beginning, and abode not in" what?
51:16 "In the truth, because there is"
51:19 how much truth in him?
51:20 "There was no truth in him.
51:22 When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his" who?
51:25 "Of his own, for he is a liar," and what else?
51:29 "The father of lies," John 8:44.
51:32 Jesus then came and lived a life among man.
51:37 He had to live the life so that you and I could see
51:40 that it is possible to live as Christ lived.
51:45 I've heard people say, well, Jesus lived that way
51:49 because He was God.
51:50 No Jesus lived that way because He became flesh
51:53 to demonstrate that is possible for you and for me to become
51:57 like Christ in character.
51:59 What do you say?
52:01 And He also came to remove that,
52:05 that charge against Him that he was a tyrant.
52:09 Christ healed, Christ forgave.
52:12 You remember the woman that was brought to Him
52:15 that they wanted Him to stone her, remember that?
52:18 She had been caught in adultery.
52:20 By the way they only brought the woman
52:22 and according to the law
52:23 it was both who would be stoned not one.
52:26 What happened to the man?
52:28 Why did they just bring the woman?
52:30 Well, it's a plot.
52:32 They were trying to put Christ in a position
52:34 to make Him make a mistake
52:37 but Jesus then writing their sins on the floor,
52:41 finally one by one they left
52:43 and finally Jesus said,
52:46 where are those that accused you?
52:50 And she said no man condemn me, Lord.
52:52 And Jesus said those most wonderful words,
52:55 "Neither do I condemn you.
52:58 Go and sin no more."
53:01 Ah friends a longing of the heart of Christ
53:05 is that you and I will sin no more.
53:10 That you and I could become like Christ in heart.
53:13 That we will love the Father and that we would love that
53:16 which is just good and virtuous and pure and holy.
53:22 But we must allow Jesus to come into our hearts
53:25 and to dwell in our hearts.
53:26 What do you say?
53:28 Mankind by nature has accepted
53:31 the inheritance of that which is rebellious,
53:36 but through Christ man's nature can change
53:40 and when he was evil he can become good again.
53:46 Listen, I was holding an evangelistic meeting like this,
53:50 prophecy seminar, Jacksonville, Florida.
53:53 And one night in the tent, in those days I had projectors,
53:58 a slide projectors and you had to turn off the lights
54:01 because you couldn't see the screen.
54:03 And so a man and woman came in
54:07 and I could just see their shape
54:09 because there was dark in there.
54:10 As soon as I finished they left.
54:11 The next night they came and sat closer
54:13 and then I could tell, he was a big, big man,
54:17 handlebar mustache, baldheaded,
54:19 turnout he was a weight lighter.
54:20 He looked like Mr. Clean.
54:22 If you know who I'm talking about.
54:25 And so mighty man, his wife also came around,
54:30 she was also weight lifter, both came in.
54:32 Well, one night I preached about the Great Controversy
54:37 and I made an appeal to the people,
54:39 who would accept the Christ?
54:40 Who would choose to be on God's side?
54:43 There are two sides you cannot be on both.
54:46 You either accept this side or you accept that side.
54:50 God says you cannot serve how many?
54:52 Two servants.
54:53 And so I made an appeal for those
54:56 who wanted to commit their lives for Christ.
54:58 Those who wanted to accept Jesus
55:00 as Lord and Savior to come forward.
55:02 That big man came forward
55:04 and when he came forward he was crying.
55:06 He was upset because he had never cried in his life.
55:09 And he told me, he said, can God forgive me?
55:12 I said, yes, God can forgive you.
55:13 How do you know God can forgive me?
55:15 He said, you don't know what I've done.
55:16 I said I don't know how you are but I know who my God is.
55:20 And my God says, if we confess our sins
55:23 He is faithful and just to what?
55:25 Forgive us our sins and to do what else?
55:28 Cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
55:30 That man could not believe it.
55:31 So what do you think you have done
55:33 and God can't forgive you?
55:34 He said I killed 3,500 people.
55:38 I said, how do you kill- how did you do that?
55:42 He said I grew up in my home, my dad was a hired killer.
55:46 And I always wanted to kill but I decided to do it legally.
55:48 So I volunteered in Vietnam War, flew a helicopter
55:52 and I wanted to kill as many people as I could legally.
55:55 And I counted 3,500 people.
55:57 I never felt bad about that
55:59 until I came to these meetings and now I'm troubled.
56:02 Can God forgive me?
56:04 And the man was weeping and I said yes,
56:06 God can forgive you,
56:08 if you will give your heart to God tonight.
56:11 Will you choose Christ as your Lord and your Savior?
56:14 He says gladly.
56:15 I said would you kneel down with me.
56:18 That big hulk of a man knelled down
56:20 and poured out his heart in tears
56:22 asking God to forgive him
56:24 and saying, oh, God, I want to be on Your side,
56:27 will you accept me?
56:28 My, friends, remember this,
56:30 Jesus says, "Him that cometh to Me I will" what?
56:33 "In no wise cast out."
56:35 And I wonder here tonight,
56:37 how many of you want to be on the Lord's side?
56:40 Any of you?
56:41 How many of you are thankful
56:43 that there is a time when God will destroy Satan's wickedness
56:47 and forever we'll be with the Lord.
56:49 What do you say?
56:50 Well, listen, I like to have a prayer with you
56:53 and after the prayer
56:54 I like to make an invitation tonight.
56:56 Shall we pray?
56:58 Our heavenly Father,
57:00 we see the great controversy rage you.
57:03 We know that Jesus won the victory on Calvary.
57:06 He said it is finished, it is done,
57:09 now it remains with us.
57:11 Oh, God, help us to choose You and to obey You
57:16 and to love You in Jesus name, amen.


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