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Heaven - Is It For Real?

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Participants: Pr. Louis Torres

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01:00 Welcome back to Digging Up The Future,
01:02 we're glad you're here at this Bible prophecy.
01:04 How many of you have enjoyed the seminar so far?
01:07 And it's been a blessing to think about Jesus
01:10 and to, you know, focus on what He is doing
01:13 and we have the good news that He--
01:15 we serve a Risen Savior and not only that we--
01:17 we know what He is doing
01:18 He is ministering in the heavenly sanctuary. Amen.
01:21 And that's good news
01:23 and we're gonna continue with the good news,
01:26 more good news this evening we're gonna talk about heaven.
01:28 How many of you think the world would not really be bearable
01:32 unless we knew there was a heaven?
01:33 How many think that's true?
01:34 And tonight we're going to be talking about that
01:36 our Pastor Torres is in.
01:38 Let's just pray that the Holy Spirit
01:39 will be with him as he talks about this.
01:43 Father in heaven tonight we're thankful
01:45 that you were here, you lived here on earth
01:50 and you promised that you would come again
01:53 that you're in heaven preparing a place for us.
01:55 We want to learn more about heaven
01:58 about that place you're preparing.
02:00 Tonight we ask that you'd prepare our hearts
02:02 as you are also preparing heaven
02:05 and we come in Jesus name, amen.
02:09 We have a theme song we've been learning
02:12 and let's stand together as we sing
02:13 Marvelous message we bring Glorious carol we sing!
02:25 Marvelous message we bring Glorious carol we sing
02:32 Wonderful word of the King Jesus is coming again
02:39 Coming again, coming again
02:46 May be morning, may be noon
02:49 May be evening but shall be soon
02:53 Coming again, coming again
03:00 Oh what a wonderful day that will be
03:06 Jesus is coming again
03:14 Amen, you could be seated.
03:16 Are you thankful He is coming again?
03:18 Amen
03:19 Tonight we're going to learn about
03:21 what He is doing before He comes again
03:22 at least part of what is He doing
03:24 preparing that-- that earth may do
03:26 and we're gonna see a picture tonight
03:28 we have a special tree.
03:30 Pastor Torres doesn't only preach
03:33 he can play the guitar
03:36 you know coming up in the series
03:37 we'll learn more about
03:38 how he learnt how to play the guitar
03:40 and different things about that.
03:42 But tonight he is gonna use that instrument
03:44 to play some heavenly music
03:45 and he is going to be joined by Rafael Scarfullery,
03:48 who's been our, our resident maestro
03:50 for some of this series
03:52 and two of them are going to play together
03:53 I know you'll enjoy it.
03:55 Let's prepare our hearts as they come.
08:31 A young man in Vietnam had been wounded by shrapnel
08:37 and needed surgery but there was one problem.
08:42 He had a rare blood type
08:46 and there was none in Vietnam.
08:51 So the military then sent out
08:54 a hasty request at some place in America,
09:01 somebody has this type of-- of blood to please donate.
09:06 And fortunately there was a lady found in Boston,
09:09 who had the same type of blood that he had.
09:13 And so she donated it
09:14 they flew it over to where the boy was having surgery
09:18 and it arrived in time and the boy's life was saved.
09:24 He wrote to his father, about what had taken place
09:29 and told him that a certain lady
09:32 had donated the blood that they needed.
09:35 Well, the dad, being very grateful
09:38 for what the lady had done
09:40 decided that he would personally call her up
09:43 and thank her for what he had-- what she had done.
09:48 Well, when he called her up and they began to talk together
09:51 and compare notes, what do you suppose?
09:54 It turned out that she was a lost sister
09:57 that he hadn't seen for years.
10:03 As children they had been farmed out
10:07 and he had never seen his sister again.
10:10 But as they talked and compared notes
10:12 it was his lost sister.
10:15 And dad wrote back to the boy and said the following.
10:22 "Her blood has reunited the family."
10:29 And so it is with the blood of Christ.
10:32 He reunites the family, what do you say?
10:35 Thank God, for the blood
10:37 that Jesus shared for you and for me.
10:41 Again let us bow our heads together
10:42 as we study God's word.
10:43 Father, thank you so much
10:45 for the subject that we are about to study.
10:47 We're thankful that you reveal to your children
10:50 the wonderful things that you are preparing
10:52 and even though eyes have not seen
10:54 and ears haven't heard
10:55 the things that you're preparing.
10:57 We are glad that you gave us a foretaste
10:59 in thy Holy word,
11:00 so bless us with your spirit we pray in Jesus name, amen.
11:05 the subject of heaven
11:06 has always been very intriguing to me
11:08 when I was a young little lad my sister passed away.
11:12 In a very-- it was a very traumatic experience for us
11:15 because she was the only girl.
11:16 We all loved her, we use to kind of fight
11:18 as so who is going to hold her next
11:20 and mother would buy
11:21 her the best that she could afford.
11:24 Little, little dress that made to look like a little doll
11:28 and we were just so proud about our little sister
11:31 and then because of our impoverished conditions,
11:34 she developed pneumonia and passed away.
11:38 And I remember at the funeral I must have been four years old
11:44 but I still remember as it was today.
11:46 A lady dressed in black
11:49 patting my head because I was weeping
11:51 and said to me, oh, it's okay Luiceito
11:54 that's what they called me, Luiceito.
11:56 It's okay, Luiceito which just means little Luie.
12:02 Your sister is in heaven.
12:06 Well, she thought that would comfort me
12:08 but on the contrary it raised a lot of questions.
12:11 Number one, how can she see and I can't.
12:17 Do you understand?
12:18 I'm thinking of that, you know, how does she know?
12:21 Does she have telescopic vision or something?
12:24 She can see right up there and see her?
12:25 There is a lot of questions that were raised in my mind
12:28 and finally unfortunately
12:30 because there were lot of questions
12:32 that no one seemed to have answers
12:34 for I left all relationship with church et cetera
12:39 became atheistic in my thinking and lost my way.
12:45 It was not until I began to study the word of God,
12:47 did I began to understand
12:49 that in the word you find the answers.
12:52 In what?
12:53 In the word you find the answers.
12:56 Tonight let's study about heaven
12:57 that wonderful subject
12:58 that a lot of people have all sorts of ideas,
13:01 there are all sorts of heavens that people think about.
13:04 For example, I was in Norway
13:07 and while there I went to the Norwegian Museum
13:11 there in Oslo.
13:12 Now my wife's grand-- pardon me, great grand father
13:16 happened to be in the region sea captain
13:19 and he is in the Guinness World book of records
13:24 because he was a youngest sea captain that couldn't swim.
13:32 But he and his bride who was in Sweden,
13:35 who was a harpist at the conservatory
13:38 there in Sweden, they left
13:42 and traveled over to the United States
13:45 and settled up in a place called Minot, North Dakota.
13:48 Anyway, I was interested in going to Norway
13:51 because my wife's roots from there
13:54 and I went to the museum
13:57 and what do you suppose I saw there?
14:00 Boats.
14:02 Viking boats, I was excited to see a Viking boat.
14:06 Now, here is what I discovered however.
14:09 The Vikings had this notion and when they died the lords
14:13 that they would kill all of the livestock
14:15 and servants and all that
14:16 so that they could take their livestock
14:18 and servants with them to this other place.
14:20 And then they would of course bury all the boat
14:23 and everything else in clay
14:26 because they believe that they would take their boat
14:29 in the-- to the Netherlands.
14:30 You understand what I'm saying?
14:33 Can you imagine how shock those Viking lords would be
14:36 if they would wake up today
14:38 and find themselves inside a museum.
14:50 But God has a better place for us.
14:53 I want you to know
14:55 first of all Paul speaks about this and talking about heaven
15:00 Paul begins the 2 Corinthians 12
15:02 with verse 2 and 4
15:03 and he makes a very interesting statement
15:05 which sometimes people misunderstand
15:07 but I think it's clear.
15:09 Notice Paul says, "I knew a man in Christ
15:11 above fourteen years ago"
15:12 this language sometimes Prophets who were too noble
15:17 and too-- too or can I say
15:23 not proud but very shy about the fact
15:26 that they had special revelations
15:28 usually try to speak about some other person
15:32 when in reality they were speaking about themselves.
15:34 John did the same thing
15:35 if you read in the book of John,
15:37 He says sometimes the one whom Jesus loved.
15:41 You remember that?
15:42 The one who Jesus loved, laid on his breath
15:46 well, who was the one that Jesus loved?
15:47 Well, he is talking about himself.
15:49 But he was too-- too noble of a person to point to himself.
15:53 So, Paul says, "I knew a man about 14 years ago,
15:56 (whether in the body, I cannot tell;
15:58 or whether out of the body, I cannot tell)"
16:00 In other words Paul is saying that the experience was so real
16:04 that he could not tell if he was really there or not.
16:06 Have you ever had a dream
16:08 that was so real that you could not tell
16:10 if you were really there or not?
16:11 Have you ever had that kind of a dream?
16:13 Yes, and so it was so real to Paul
16:16 that he couldn't tell if he was actually bodily there or not
16:19 and that's the way it was with the prophets.
16:20 I mean you read in the Book of Revelation
16:22 John the revelator says, "I turned around and I saw
16:25 and then he says, I saw"
16:27 and he speaks about things
16:29 as if though they were right there.
16:30 Isn't that true?
16:32 Well, Paul says, "Such an one caught up to" Where?
16:36 "The third heaven." Notice it says which heaven?
16:39 The third heaven, well, that's interesting.
16:41 Most people think about only one heaven
16:43 but Paul is speaking about what?
16:45 The third, if there is a third, there must be a second,
16:47 if there is a second, there must be a first.
16:49 Okay, now, notice it says then in the next verse,
16:53 verse 4 "How that he was caught up" to where?
16:56 "To paradise" now, notice first he says,
16:59 the third heaven and now he says, what?
17:01 Paradise.
17:02 So, Paul is saying
17:03 that he was caught up into paradising the vision
17:07 and he calls that paradise the third heaven, you see that?
17:11 And says, "Which it is not and he heard what?
17:14 "Unspeakable words which is not lawful for a man to" what?
17:18 Utter."
17:20 He must have heard some sublime things,
17:26 but he was too humble to reveal them.
17:31 Well, when Jesus was on the cross
17:35 you remember the thief who is next to him
17:37 said, "Lord remember me when you come into your" what?
17:40 "Your kingdom" and what was Jesus' response?
17:43 He said, "I will say on to you today,
17:47 you will be with me" where?
17:48 "In paradise"
17:50 Now by the way some people misunderstands this text
17:53 and think that Jesus is saying
17:54 that the thief is going to paradise that day.
17:56 What they're saying is, I'm telling you today
17:58 you're gonna be with me in paradise.
18:00 We know that because Jesus himself
18:01 didn't go to paradise until after He resurrected
18:03 is that true, yes or no?
18:04 Yes.
18:06 In fact sometimes what happens is in the Greek
18:09 sometimes there-- by the way,
18:10 in the Greek there are no punctuations
18:12 but when they translate into English
18:13 they put commas to make the English sense
18:16 and sometimes some of the writers
18:17 did put a comma in the wrong place.
18:19 Okay, so they put the comma here in the wrong place.
18:21 Let me, demonstrate to you.
18:24 Listen to this phrase, "A woman without her man is nothing."
18:29 A What?
18:31 "A woman with out her man is nothing."
18:34 You ladies are not responding.
18:39 "A woman with out her man is what?
18:41 "Nothing." Is that true ladies?
18:44 Ah, we have a divided camp here, all right.
18:48 Now let me use some commas.
18:51 Let me use some commas, you see the-- what happens.
18:54 How it changes the meaning.
18:55 "A woman, without her, man is nothing."
19:03 Now, what happens?
19:05 The same sentence right but what happens?
19:09 The same sentence the meaning has changed.
19:12 The first one the woman is nothing without her man.
19:15 The second one, the man is nothing without the woman.
19:18 Do you understand what can happen with a comma?
19:20 All right.
19:21 And that's what happened
19:22 but anyway Jesus is promising the thief
19:25 "Today I'm telling you,
19:26 you are going to be with me" where?
19:28 In paradise."
19:29 Paul had a vision and he went to where?
19:33 Paradise and of course look at what it says in Revelation 2:7,
19:37 Revelation 2:7 "He that hath an ear,
19:40 let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
19:43 To him that" what "that overcometh
19:48 will I give to eat of the" what "tree of life,
19:51 which is in the midst of the paradise of" Whom?
19:55 Of God.
19:56 So where is the tree of life?
19:58 In Paradise and what did Jesus say to him,
20:00 that overcometh I will give to eat of what
20:03 the tree of life which is in paradise.
20:06 So when Jesus resurrected and went to heaven,
20:08 where did he go?
20:10 He went to paradise.
20:11 When He's promised that thief that he will go to paradise,
20:14 he was actually--- promising him heaven.
20:16 In other words, Heaven, the third heaven
20:19 and paradise are synonymous words.
20:21 One it's just an exchange for the other.
20:25 So the first heaven of course the Bible calls the sky heavens
20:29 where the fowls fly, the birds fly.
20:32 "By them shall the fowls of what?
20:35 Heaven have their habitation?"
20:37 The Bible also refers to where the stars are as heaven.
20:41 Notice it says "And God made to great lights,
20:44 the greater light to rule the day
20:46 and the lesser light to rule the night.
20:48 He made the stars also and God set them in the" what?
20:52 Firmament of what?
20:53 Heaven to give light upon the earth."
20:55 So you see, there is --
20:57 there is a first heaven, the sky.
21:00 There is a second heaven the stratosphere space
21:02 and the third heaven is paradise where God is.
21:06 Now we are talking tonight not about the first
21:09 not about the second but about which one?
21:11 The third heaven.
21:12 Okay, that's the one you want to know about,
21:14 what do you say?
21:15 So let's study them about the third heaven, paradise.
21:19 What is it all about?
21:21 You remember when Jesus was going to heaven
21:25 he promised that He would come back again and take us
21:31 and so that we could be with him where He is.
21:33 John 14 you remember that wonderful passage,
21:36 "Let not your heart be" what?
21:38 Troubled, you believe in God, believe also in whom?
21:41 In Me.
21:42 In my Father's house are many mansions.
21:45 If it were not so, I would have told you so.
21:49 I go and prepare place for you.
21:51 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will what?
21:54 I will come again and receive you unto myself
21:59 that where I am there you may be also."
22:05 By the way, how many of you have heard
22:06 this wonderful hymn called the Lord's Prayer?
22:09 Any of you? How does it start?
22:11 Our Father which art where?
22:14 In heaven. Okay.
22:18 Jesus then, promised that He would come from heaven
22:22 and according to Acts 1:10,11
22:25 the angels said the same Jesus was just taken up into heaven
22:29 shall so come in like manner.
22:31 All right?
22:32 So Jesus is taken up into heaven,
22:34 the Father is in heaven
22:35 and so the promise is then that Jesus will come back
22:39 and take His children where?
22:41 To heaven or to paradise where He is.
22:45 In fact, we are told about Abraham.
22:47 Notice what it says, that Abraham looks for what?
22:50 For a city which have foundations
22:53 builder and makers of who?
22:55 Yes, Abraham recognized that God had something better
22:59 than what mankind could do down here on earth
23:02 and so he looks for a city not that man could build
23:05 but that God would build.
23:07 Hebrews 11:10, so He looked for a city
23:12 now the question is this, what is the name of that city?
23:15 Well, the Bible gives us the name,
23:17 the Bible calls it the what?
23:19 The New Jerusalem, now please remember this
23:22 and we'll talk about this later,
23:24 but a lot of people look in two Jerusalem
23:27 but the Bible doesn't ask us to look two Jerusalem.
23:30 The Bible is asking us to look to the New Jerusalem
23:32 which one, New Jerusalem, you see.
23:36 Abraham was not looking for one who had foundations
23:39 whose builder and maker is man.
23:41 He was looking for a city that had foundations
23:43 whose builder and maker is who?
23:45 God.
23:46 So those people who put in their hopes in Jerusalem
23:49 are putting their hopes in a city
23:51 whose builder and maker is man.
23:54 But the Bible is not promising man
23:56 a city that's build by man the Bible is promising man
24:00 a city that's built by God himself.
24:02 What do you say?
24:03 And no wonder it says, I go and prepare.
24:07 Well, if He's preparing a place
24:10 well, if He's preparing it means
24:11 you have to do something to prepare right?
24:13 And then a place
24:15 well, if it says a place then it's a place.
24:18 What do you say?
24:19 I know that-- that the place that I'm staying right now,
24:24 is not some fictitious thing where I just float around.
24:27 Fortunately it's a real bed at that brother Brain's home.
24:32 And I could lie down on a place
24:35 that was provided for me or prepared for me.
24:37 You understand what I'm saying?
24:39 Jesus went to prepare the place
24:41 and it's called the New Jerusalem.
24:42 Well, what does this city have?
24:45 The Bible says that this city
24:49 is square is what?
24:51 Four square.
24:52 Notice it says, "And the city lieth" how
24:55 "foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth:
24:57 and he measured the city with the reed,
24:59 twelve thousand furlongs."
25:01 So length, breath and height of all-- all of it is equal.
25:04 So here is a city that is foursquare
25:08 and is 12,000 furlongs.
25:10 Now you may ask the question how big is that?
25:12 Well, let me explain it to you.
25:14 12,000 furlongs is 250-- I'm sorry 2560 kilometers
25:21 which is basically four times around 640 kilometers
25:26 for those of you who are in Europe
25:28 but for those of you who are here in the United States
25:30 it's basically about 350 miles one side.
25:33 How much? 350 miles one side.
25:37 All right or 1500 miles around.
25:41 Now let's consider what this is talking about
25:44 because we're talking about a large city here.
25:47 I grew up in New York City.
25:48 How many of you recognize this lady?
25:50 Statue of Liberty and by the way I never knew
25:54 why people always wanted to go and see a statue.
25:56 I grew up and I never had any interest to the see the statue.
26:01 It was just one of those things
26:02 it was there in the backyard, do you understand?
26:05 And people would come from all over the world
26:07 to see the statue,
26:08 well, I moved away and went back to New York
26:10 to work as minister in the New York
26:12 and had some friends from other town
26:13 who came to see me
26:15 and what do you suppose they wanted to see?
26:17 The statue, so for the first time
26:19 I had to go and see the statue, all right.
26:21 Well, in New York City
26:23 they have an approximate population
26:25 about 16 million people, how many?
26:28 16 million people.
26:29 By the way in Australia, the whole country of Australia
26:32 they have about 18 million people.
26:35 About how much? 18 million people.
26:37 So in one small area of the United States
26:40 you have almost the total population
26:42 of entire country of Australia.
26:46 It's amazing, isn't it?
26:48 Ah, if you ever go to New York City
26:50 any of you have been to New York City?
26:52 What do you think of those skyscrapers?
26:54 You look straight up right
26:56 when the twin towers were there
26:57 I remember you can look straight up
26:59 and you have to look-- look up straight up.
27:02 And then when you got up on top you look straight down.
27:04 Those cars look like little ants going around.
27:06 You remember that?
27:08 Well, 16 million people in that little spot.
27:14 So let me show you a comparison of Untied States
27:16 you would see what we're talking about.
27:19 Right there where that arrow is,
27:20 that little dot right there that's New York City, okay?
27:25 And in comparison to that little dot
27:28 that's how big we are talking about the Holy City is
27:33 and for those of you are in the west coast of course,
27:36 I could have take that square and move it down
27:38 here it's about, about that size, you see that?
27:41 What state is that by the way you know?
27:45 So if you move that from there I live in near Portland
27:48 right now, that little dot behind there
27:50 and that's how big the city is in comparison to that area.
27:54 So let me ask you a question,
27:55 if 16 million people can live in that little spot there
27:59 how much people do you think can live in that whole city?
28:03 That's why the old negro spiritual said,
28:06 "Plenty good room--
28:07 Plenty good room in my father's kingdom"
28:09 how many of you have over heard that song?
28:10 You never heard it some of you have,
28:12 yes, that's why
28:13 because God is preparing a place
28:16 that has enough room for all who want to be there.
28:20 What do you say?
28:21 So here's the question how many of you want to be there?
28:23 I haven't even told you what it's all about
28:25 and you want to be there?
28:26 So let's study some more and see what is in store for us.
28:31 If we were to go to Europe or Australia
28:36 we could put a square over it, here's Budapest
28:39 of course that's Hungary I was there in January.
28:42 And so I was showing them
28:43 the comparison of the city with--
28:46 with the territory of Hungary.
28:51 And you can say if you move it I was Basel,
28:54 Zurich not long ago in Bern
28:56 and if you move it over there
28:57 you can see how much-- how big the city is.
28:59 Well, if you go to Australia
29:00 for those of you who are down under
29:03 here is how big that city would be.
29:05 It takes up all of Sydney et cetera.
29:08 Do you see that?
29:09 So here's Sydney in that dot
29:12 and this is how big the city would be.
29:14 So you can see friends that there is how much?
29:17 Plenty of room in the city
29:19 and God is given us specific description
29:23 to help us understand
29:24 that it is a real place for real people.
29:27 Plenty of room for all who want to be there.
29:30 I imagine friends that artists have
29:33 a hard time portraying the glories of it.
29:35 And artists do try to make an attempt
29:37 to give us some kind of idea
29:39 but fortunately the Bible says,
29:41 I have not seen though you have heard.
29:44 And that's 1 Corinthians 2:9 In other words,
29:47 it's very heard for us to imagine
29:49 how splendid, how glorious
29:51 that place will be for those who have loved God.
29:54 But apparently from what we read
29:57 God is really putting some--
29:59 some wonderful material into that building.
30:01 Listen, let's see what-- what God is putting into that?
30:06 "First of all it says,
30:08 she had a great wall with how many gates?
30:11 12 gates and 12 angels at the gates.
30:14 Then it says that names were written on them,
30:19 which are the names of the 12 tribes
30:21 of the children of Israel."
30:22 Chapter 21:12, then it says
30:25 that each three gates is on one side
30:28 and three gates on the other side
30:29 and three gates on the other side
30:30 and three gates on the other side.
30:31 In other words it says North, South, East and West gate
30:34 and then it tells us
30:36 that that city has the gates made of pearl
30:40 and then it tells us that it has walls
30:44 that have many precious gems
30:49 used to make the foundations.
30:52 The walls are made of transparent gold
30:54 and tells us in verse 18
30:56 notice it says "The building of the wall of it was of jasper
30:58 and the city of pure gold, like unto" what "clear glass."
31:03 You see that?
31:05 Then it says, "The foundations of the wall of the city
31:08 were garnished with all manner of precious stones.
31:10 The first foundation was jasper the second sapphire,
31:13 the third, a chalcedony, the fourth an emerald
31:16 and so it continues explaining to us
31:18 giving us a different-- different stones.
31:22 Look at the-- the potential
31:24 of what that foundation would look like.
31:27 Today, when people make homes and they build a foundation
31:31 normally speaking they burry the foundation,
31:35 they hide the foundation, is that true?
31:38 But God is using precious stones for that foundation
31:42 and it speaks about the sardonyx, sardius,
31:46 chrysolite and the beryl the topaz the chrysoprasus,
31:51 the jacinth and the amethyst.
31:54 And the 12 gates were 12 pearls
31:55 every gate was of one pearl
31:57 and the street of the city also was of transparent gold.
32:01 The street is what? Transparent gold.
32:04 One time I was visiting a friend,
32:06 his name was Ofamez
32:08 and he happened to be a rock collector.
32:11 A what? Rock collector.
32:13 Now, I forgot the official term for it
32:15 so I hope you don't mind
32:18 we just call him rock collector.
32:20 He won't appreciate that if he ware alive today
32:22 but anyway I forgot the term.
32:24 But anyway, he took-- he took me to his home
32:28 and down stairs in the basement
32:30 he had all his beautiful collection
32:32 and he loved to make butterflies out of the rocks
32:37 that he would polish and all that.
32:38 So he had butterflies of all colors,
32:42 it was just marvelous.
32:43 Then he took us into a little special room
32:44 and he had a black metal box in this small room
32:49 and he turned on the light and said what do you see inside?
32:51 Well, we looked and we thought to ourselves
32:53 what's he so excited about?
32:56 All there was, was just a bunch of rocks inside there
32:59 and so we were thinking well, he has gone rocky.
33:01 You understand what I'm saying? What's he so excited about?
33:05 Well, he says okay, stand back
33:07 and we stood back he turned off the light
33:08 and then he turned on a black light
33:11 and all of a sudden we could understand
33:12 why he was so excited.
33:14 Those rocks were phosphorescent
33:16 and they were able to glow in different colors.
33:21 It was deep blues and violet, purples
33:23 and greens and yellows and bright reds.
33:29 It was just amazing.
33:30 I had never seen anything like that before
33:32 rocks glowing in gorgeous colors.
33:35 And when I stood back and saw that I thought to myself aha,
33:40 this gives me an idea
33:41 of what the foundation of the whole city will look like.
33:49 Listen there is more,
33:53 the scripture in telling us that there is transparent gold
33:57 scientists have discovered how to make transparent gold
33:59 I told you that-- that the other night
34:01 and for those of you who are new tonight
34:04 for centuries skeptics would scoff and mock
34:07 the Bible and ridicule
34:08 that who can ever see through gold.
34:10 You know, gold is normally yellow right,
34:12 white gold and you can't see through it.
34:14 Right, how many of you have gold on yourselves?
34:16 Okay, try to look through it. Yes, you are laughing at me.
34:20 While you are saying you can't see through gold.
34:22 Right?
34:23 Well, scientists have discovered how to make gold
34:25 and they use it in the airplanes
34:28 right there in the cockpit
34:31 there are two plates of glass inch and half thick a piece
34:35 and in between there is a film of transparent gold
34:38 and so they use the transparent gold
34:41 to heat up the windshield to the fogged
34:43 as well as to keep it flexible in flight.
34:47 And so, the technician that installs it told me
34:52 that it takes a 120 bolts to install it
34:54 and that each plate glass cost $20,000.
35:01 So skeptics no longer are laughing about
35:04 transparent gold, why?
35:07 Because the Bible is advance to science
35:10 as I told you the other day.
35:13 Well, as we continue
35:15 Jesus says, "I create new heavens and" what?
35:19 "And the new earth!"
35:20 In other words, my friends
35:21 as we understand it you remember
35:24 if you studied about the--
35:26 the destruction of the wicked and the enemy.
35:29 Well, finally the Lord will make a new heaven
35:31 and a new earth and when He does
35:34 then that Holy city will be the centre of the universe.
35:38 God will then be in that city it says
35:42 and there will be no need of the sun there
35:44 because God will be the light of it.
35:47 Wouldn't it be a glorious thing for us to dwell with God
35:50 and to be in a city where He is there present?
35:53 How many of you would--
35:55 would just love to be there with God.
35:58 I can't imagine what it would be like
36:00 to be in the presence of God forever,
36:02 what do you say?
36:03 An eternal bless and joy
36:05 and God has promised that He will wipe away
36:07 how many tears?
36:08 All tears from their eyes there shall be no more what?
36:12 There shall be no more death, neither sorrow nor what crying
36:17 for the former things have what, passed away.
36:20 In other words, God will wipe all evil away
36:23 as we studied in the previous segment.
36:25 And finally the Lord will restore everything
36:29 to His epidemic beauty.
36:32 In Revelation 22:1 it also tells us
36:34 that there is the tree of life.
36:36 The what?
36:37 The tree of life remember in Revelation 2:7
36:40 Jesus said, "To him that overcometh
36:42 will I give to eat of the tree of life,
36:44 which is in the midst of the paradise of God."
36:46 Well, here in Revelation 22:1 and 2
36:49 it tells us that the tree of life is there
36:51 but please remember
36:52 where was the tree of life to begin with?
36:54 In the Garden of Eden. And so what is God doing?
36:57 God is restoring to us
36:59 the privilege of living forever.
37:01 Living for how long? Forever.
37:04 I was in Romania talking about the tree of life.
37:06 And it says of the bares 12 manner of fruits.
37:08 How many?
37:09 12 manner of fruit which means then
37:11 if it has fruits somebody is going to eat it.
37:13 What do you say?
37:14 Now, I was in Romania and I love mangoes.
37:18 Any of you like mangoes?
37:21 Boy, in about three weeks I'm going to the Philippines
37:23 and it's mango season.
37:26 Sorry, folks but anyway I love mangoes
37:31 and as I was talking to the-- to the Romanian's
37:34 I said "Boy I hope one of the fruit is a mango."
37:38 And I was so excited about my mango.
37:40 And afterwards some people came up to me and said
37:43 Pastor, what's a mango?
37:47 I had no idea they had never seen a mango
37:49 before eating the mango.
37:51 And I said well, when you get one
37:52 a good one you'll understand what I'm talking about.
37:56 A tree of life with all manner of fruits.
37:59 The scripture also says then,
38:02 that we will build houses and what?
38:05 And inhabit them notice Isaiah 65:21
38:09 "And they shall build houses and inhabit them,
38:11 they shall plant vineyards and eat the fruit of them."
38:13 It even says in the Isaiah 11
38:16 that the animals will be tamed as well.
38:19 Notice it says, "They shall build houses and inhabit them,
38:21 they shall plant vineyards and eat the fruit of them"
38:25 then it says "They shall not build and another inhabit,
38:28 they shall not plant and another eat
38:30 for as the days of a tree will be the days of my people."
38:35 And then it says, "And my elect shall long enjoy"
38:39 how long?
38:40 "Long enjoy the work of their hands."
38:43 Would you love to look forward to that time?
38:45 You know, we think we own our homes
38:48 and it doesn't matter how much you pay on your home
38:50 even if you pay it off,
38:52 if you think it's your, don't pay the taxes.
38:54 Yeah.
38:55 And then you'll discover how much it re--
38:59 how much really belongs to you right?
39:01 You know what I'm saying?
39:03 But the scripture says, here that that won't happen.
39:07 You will build houses you will inhabit them
39:10 think of it then.
39:11 If Jesus is preparing a place for you in the city,
39:15 it means that you'll have a city home.
39:17 If you build houses it means
39:19 that you'll have a country home.
39:21 You'll have both the what?
39:23 A city home and a country home.
39:26 I was talking to my wife
39:27 when we began to study about this and I--
39:30 I said, look, honey why don't we talk about
39:33 what kind of living room we're gonna have over there.
39:36 And we thought about it would be a great idea
39:37 if we can have a waterfall
39:38 coming right into the living room
39:40 with all sorts of roses
39:41 without thorns all around there's couches to sit on.
39:45 Why not? What do you say?
39:47 Why not beginning to-- why not begin to think
39:49 about what you're going to do in the kingdom.
39:52 Well, listen, it says "The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb,
39:57 the leopard shall lie down with the young goat,
39:59 the calf and the young lion and the fatling together."
40:03 Now again people think this is a fairy tale
40:05 but I want to tell you it's not a fairy tale
40:07 God promises this and it will happen.
40:10 In Oregon, in the state of Oregon
40:12 there was a story about a lioness called Little Tyke.
40:16 Any of you have heard of Little Tyke?
40:18 All right.
40:19 I happened to know, I have a friend
40:21 who happened to go and visit the people
40:27 who own this lioness and they just said look
40:30 you just have to be a little careful with it.
40:33 Why is that, because she loves to play
40:36 and she doesn't realize how big she is.
40:39 She loves to what? Play.
40:41 She doesn't realize how big she is.
40:44 So Dwayne said he went people were in the living room
40:48 and he said just go gently you know, walk up
40:50 because if you walk too fast
40:52 she is gonna think you are playing with her
40:53 and well, well, Dwayne didn't have to be told any longer
40:59 what he had to do, you understand?
41:03 And he began to pet the lioness
41:06 and to him it was a thrill to find the lioness.
41:08 This lioness by the way was a vegetarian.
41:11 A what? A vegetarian.
41:14 Can you imagine that a vegetarian lion.
41:16 What would happen was that this lioness was a little cub
41:20 and the lion that had, the lioness that had--
41:22 it actually had several other cubs
41:24 and killed them all except for this one.
41:26 This one was rescued
41:28 and was given to of all people a butcher
41:33 and so the butcher begins
41:35 and his wife begin to raise this animal
41:38 but to their shock it turned out
41:39 that even thought he was a butcher
41:41 he thought okay, good, great
41:43 I could draw my scrap in the mouth of the lioness
41:45 I won't have to worry about him anymore, you see.
41:48 Well, he had something else coming
41:50 because the lioness wouldn't eat the meat.
41:53 Here it is he is offering a piece of meat
41:56 and what's the lioness doing?
41:58 Turning his face.
41:59 In fact, they told them
42:00 that unless this lioness could learn to eat meat
42:03 that it would die.
42:04 So, in order to get the lioness to eat meat
42:06 what they did was they-- they took the milk
42:08 that lioness use to like
42:10 and they put a drop of blood in the milk
42:12 with the idea that once it began to taste blood
42:15 it get use to blood and eat meat.
42:17 Well, the amazing thing is that as soon as the lioness smelled
42:20 the one blood, one drop of blood
42:22 it would not touch the milk.
42:26 And you know, it's best pet?
42:28 They-- They actually had a TV show
42:31 and the-- the lioness would come into the room
42:37 running into the room and on the couch was a lamb.
42:40 You know what the lioness would do?
42:42 It would make a mag dash and of course the--
42:44 people in the audience seeing that lioness
42:47 but all it do is just go look at the people turn around
42:49 jump on the couch and take the little lamb and cuddle it.
42:52 And so there it is--
42:57 now friends let me ask you a question,
42:59 if it's possible in a world of sin,
43:02 will it be possible in a world with out sin?
43:05 Yes or no? Yes.
43:11 Isn't that wonderful?
43:13 Can you imagine what it would be like
43:15 to be in the world
43:16 where you don't have to worry about danger anymore?
43:22 No more concern about locks,
43:24 no more concern about crooks or thieves or murderers.
43:27 No more concern about wild animals.
43:30 I remember we use to live in Georgia,
43:34 in a place called Hoboken Georgia.
43:36 Now most people have heard of Hoboken, New Jersey.
43:39 And even people from Georgia
43:41 most people don't know where Hoboken is,
43:43 when I say I lived in Hoboken.
43:45 They say where is that?
43:46 New Jersey, I said no.
43:48 I'm talking to people form Georgia see down south
43:51 and I said Hoboken, say where is that?
43:52 New Jersey?
43:53 No, no it's not New Jersey it's Georgia.
43:56 There is no Hoboken, Georgia.
43:57 I said yes, there is.
44:00 And then I'd had to start talking in their language.
44:01 Boy you don't know where you all live, do you?
44:04 And so-- so anyway
44:09 in that place we had a little farm
44:11 and one other things we had was rattle snakes.
44:14 We had what? Rattle snakes.
44:16 We also had water Markesan's
44:17 you know they are poisonous things.
44:19 And one day I remember
44:22 there was a big big piece of metal on the ground
44:25 and we were clearing it up.
44:27 And so I was about to lift it up with my wife and so,
44:29 then I thought no better not,
44:31 we don't know what's underneath there.
44:33 So I said let me get the piece of wood,
44:35 you know and I'll lift it up
44:36 and when we saw it clear then we will move it.
44:39 Well, as soon as I lift it up
44:40 what do you suppose was in there?
44:42 Huge about a six foot water Markesan.
44:45 And who do you think it run after my wife
44:49 and I did not know that my wife was a marathon runner.
44:55 But I'll tell you she took off
44:57 and I didn't know she could run so fast.
45:00 Well, anyway in the kingdom
45:02 we won't have to worry about that.
45:03 What do you say?
45:04 We will not have to be concerned
45:06 about things that destroy.
45:09 The scripture says that I'll be a place for real people.
45:13 Notice what it says, in Isaiah 66 it says
45:17 "For as the new heavens and the new earth
45:19 which I will make shall remain before me, says the Lord.
45:23 So shall your shed and your name remain.
45:26 And it shall come to pass"
45:28 wait a minute don't be too fast,
45:30 "And it shall come to pass
45:32 that from one new moon to another.
45:36 And from one Sabbath to another,
45:38 shall all flesh come to worship before me."
45:41 Let me read this again.
45:43 "So shall your descendent and your name remain.
45:45 And it shall come to pass
45:46 that from one new moon to another."
45:48 And now you can change.
45:50 "And from one Sabbath to another shall" what?
45:53 Or what? All flesh come to what?
45:57 "Worship before me."
45:59 Now what it's telling us
46:00 is that just as there it's going to be
46:02 a new heaven and a new earth.
46:04 You remember Revelation 21 John said I saw a what?
46:08 A new heaven and a new earth
46:11 and Isaiah the prophet in the Old Testament
46:13 supports that he says,
46:14 as the new heavens and the new earth
46:16 which I'll make shall remain before me says the Lord,
46:19 so shall your name also remain before me.
46:22 And it shall come to pass
46:23 that from one new moon to another
46:25 and from one Sabbath to another
46:27 shall all flesh come to worship before me.
46:30 Now notice it says shall all what? Flesh.
46:35 Now please remember this
46:37 we always have to go back to the beginning
46:39 remember in Genesis 1 and 2 and I'm saying this
46:42 because there are people who think that--
46:43 that when you die you go directly to heaven
46:46 or you go to hell, limbo or someplace,
46:48 you understand what I'm saying?
46:50 And that people are spirits please remember this,
46:53 when God created Adam and eve.
46:55 He created them as what?
46:57 Spirit or as flesh? Flesh.
47:00 And if Adam and eve had ever sinned
47:01 how long would they have lived for?
47:03 Forever.
47:04 Let me show you a text in the book of Genesis
47:06 so you can see what I'm talking about
47:07 look at-- look at the book of Genesis
47:09 and look at Chapter 3, Genesis 3
47:13 and I want you to notice what it says there?
47:18 Genesis Chapter 3
47:24 notice we're reading in verse 19 and on
47:29 and it says "In the sweat of thy face
47:31 shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground;
47:33 for out of it wast thou taken:
47:35 for dust thou art, and unto dust shall I return.
47:39 And Adam called his wife's name Eve;
47:42 because she was the mother of all living.
47:44 Unto Adam also and to his wife
47:45 did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
47:48 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,
47:51 to know good and evil and now lest he put forth his hand,
47:54 and take also of the tree of life,
47:56 and eat, and live for" how long?
47:58 "Forever."
47:59 Now, let me ask you a question,
48:01 is this statement made before sin or after sin?
48:07 Which one? After sin.
48:09 So, what was God's concern?
48:12 That if we would let man stay in the Garden of Eden
48:15 that man would become an eternal sinner, a what?
48:19 A eternal sinner. And so what did God do?
48:24 God separated him
48:26 so he couldn't part take of the tree of life.
48:29 And therefore he couldn't live forever.
48:32 Do you see that?
48:34 So since this is after sin then.
48:37 Then you have to conclude
48:38 then that man could have lived forever in the flesh.
48:42 If he could have partaken of the tree of life.
48:48 And you and I are decedents of whom?
48:51 Of Adam and Eve and what are we?
48:52 Flesh and bones, yes or no?
48:54 Yes.
48:55 Now, why am I saying this?
48:56 Because in Genesis 1 and 2
48:59 God creates man in His own image
49:00 and God says that He creates in fact
49:03 Adam himself said this is now bone of my bones
49:06 and flesh of my flesh, doesn't he?
49:09 Yes or no?
49:10 So we see a consistency
49:12 before sin, they have bone and flesh
49:14 after sin there have bone and flesh
49:16 the difference is that if Adam and Eve
49:17 had never sinned they would have lived for how long?
49:20 Forever.
49:27 And the reason why Jesus Christ had to come
49:30 is because sin has robbed us
49:32 of that which God wanted for us to live with him forever.
49:44 There was an old man
49:47 who married a young Christian woman,
49:51 he was an atheist he thought that
49:56 his God was money and he had a plot, plan
50:01 that he was going to become a millionaire
50:02 by the time he was 35.
50:04 So he told his wife I'm going to make you
50:06 the happiest woman in the world.
50:08 I'm going to have the house for you in Florida,
50:11 I'm going to have house for your overseas,
50:13 they were Canadians.
50:15 And we will be set for life and I'll make you happy.
50:19 She said honey that's not what will make me happy?
50:22 He said what will make you happy?
50:24 If you could be with me in the kingdom.
50:26 Oh, he blew up he said, he said he just blew up.
50:31 He told this to a preacher
50:32 he was attending a meeting like this
50:35 and after the meeting
50:37 he asked the preacher to visit him
50:39 and when the preacher went to visit him
50:41 the preacher was surprised
50:42 because the man didn't look like he was worth much,
50:45 he had a patch over his eye, he was kind of limping.
50:48 His clothing looked like they hadn't been pressed
50:51 and when the man--
50:52 when the Pastor finally got to the--
50:53 to the address it was a big mansion.
50:56 And so Pastor was kind of confused
50:59 and finally the man called from the side
51:00 and said hey, Pastor right this way,
51:02 so they cleaned up the little stair case
51:04 up to a little small habitat, where he was living.
51:09 And so he began to tell the pastor the story
51:11 and so he said that, there was a time
51:13 when I didn't believe anything like this
51:14 I didn't believe in God.
51:16 I married this young lady she was beautiful
51:18 and when she told me that what will make her happy
51:22 was for me to be with her in heaven
51:23 it made me so angry.
51:24 I determine I'm going to do
51:25 everything possible to break her faith
51:30 and so I did everything I could do,
51:34 to dissuade her from her faith, if I did.
51:38 And all I do was to break her heart.
51:41 And he said and she finally died of a broken heart.
51:47 And when that happened
51:50 I lost interest in all adventures that I had.
51:54 I loved her.
51:56 I just didn't like the idea
51:57 that she was mixed up with something
51:59 so in my estimation so idiotic,
52:04 so nonsensical of as a place that no one has ever seen
52:11 but when she died my whole life became meaningless.
52:16 I left home, I went out and traveled,
52:21 lost my health, lost my eye became limp, lost all my money
52:26 and I returned back here broken in spirit,
52:28 broken in health and broken in finances.
52:33 And I asked this man
52:35 I built this house for my wife and lost it.
52:38 And I asked this man if I could rent this little room
52:40 and he allowed me to.
52:42 And then he said took out of his chest
52:44 he had a locket of his wife.
52:47 And he opened it up and said look at her,
52:50 isn't she beautiful?
52:51 Then he began to cry.
52:54 Then he said I've been a fool.
52:57 The worst of it is that what troubled me
53:00 is that I would never see her again.
53:03 And I couldn't reconcile myself
53:07 to the fact that I broke her heart
53:08 and took her to the grave
53:10 and that I would never see her again.
53:13 Oh, what a fool I've been.
53:16 And he finally said, Pastor but now as I've been listening
53:21 I believe--I believe with all my heart
53:24 and I would like to be baptized.
53:26 I want to give my heart to Jesus,
53:29 I believe that my wife believed
53:31 and the most wonderful thing is that now I know of a certainty
53:36 that I'll see her again.
53:38 And what a surprise that will be to her,
53:41 when she wakes up and sees me there.
53:43 Pastor can I get baptized. Yes you can.
53:46 Well, the day came they went out to the lake
53:49 and there were several people
53:50 who came around to stood around the shore
53:53 and the time was for the old man to get baptized
53:55 and he began to kind of limp over to the water
53:58 and some of the deacons came over to help him,
54:00 but he said, no gentlemen, please, please,
54:03 I walked on these legs for 50 years for the devil.
54:06 I want to walk on them for the Lord now.
54:10 And so he walked into the waters.
54:13 And, he stood there.
54:16 Looked up into the heaven
54:18 and again he said, now I'll see her again.
54:22 And the Pastor baptized her, baptized him.
54:25 Well, on the shore, there was a family,
54:28 well dressed family.
54:29 It was a young girl, 13 years old
54:32 and as she saw the baptism, her heart was touched
54:35 and she turned to her dad, and said, dad,
54:37 I've been wanting to get baptized for a long time
54:39 and you keep on telling me to wait for you,
54:41 wait for you, I can't wait any longer.
54:44 Dad, I am going to get baptized right now.
54:46 So just as she was, she walked into the waters.
54:49 Well, that father, standing there,
54:52 who had been holding back his daughter
54:54 for all this time was moved, he took off his jacket,
55:00 and likewise, entered into the waters.
55:03 And was baptized also.
55:05 And there on that day,
55:06 there were three new souls born into the kingdom.
55:10 Oh, friends, listen, God has a real place for you.
55:14 What kind of place? A real place for you.
55:17 God wants you there.
55:19 God has revealed all these wonderful things
55:21 as an enticement to you to tell you,
55:23 my son, my daughter, I want you to be with me.
55:26 But here's the question, do you want to be with God?
55:29 That's the question. Do you want to be with God?
55:34 He has done everything he can so you be-- to be with him.
55:38 But will you do everything you can to be with him?
55:41 That's the question.
55:43 Oh, friends, God is preparing a wonderful place for you.
55:47 What more could God do?
55:48 He offered his Son to die for you
55:51 and then his Son goes and prepares a place for you.
55:54 And then the Son promises to come back and take you
55:57 and give you that wonderful trip up to space.
56:01 You'll see marvels that you've never
56:03 ever dreamed you would ever have seen
56:05 and then finally, that door will open into the Holy City.
56:09 And the day of days will come
56:11 when the whole group of the saved
56:14 will stand there foursquare
56:16 and the Father will say, welcome home, children.
56:21 This is the place I prepared for you.
56:24 How many of you long to be there?
56:27 That wonderful place, that real place,
56:29 shall we pray together?
56:31 Our Father in Heaven, how grateful we are
56:36 that the scripture reveals a real place for real people.
56:41 You've said that we'll know each other.
56:44 But then shall we know even us also we are known.
56:48 Oh, God, help us to long to be there.
56:54 Put in our hearts a longing for heaven.
56:57 Lord, this whole earth is getting darker.
57:00 Things are coming to an end quickly.
57:03 But we're glad that we have an escapement
57:05 through thy Son, Jesus Christ.
57:07 Accept us tonight, is our prayer,
57:10 in His wonderful and precious name.
57:14 Amen.


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