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Program Code: OTR000983
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03:43 Good evening ASI. Good evening. Good evening ASI.
03:47 Good evening. Are you alive tonight? 03:49 Yes. Praise the Lord? This is the part of ASI a voice 03:53 really enjoyed and that's when you get to interview 03:55 people and hear different people's experiences that 03:58 often times just ordinary everyday people like us, 04:01 you know going out and doing extraordinary things by the 04:03 power of the Holy Spirit, nd I have here with me 04:06 Sam Miller. Sam, you have a very interesting shirt on 04:10 I mean, did you just get off an airline or something and 04:12 come here what's up with the shirt? Now, not exactly, 04:16 just came for ASI. You just, how come you're 04:19 wearing this shirt then I mean. Well, that's part of 04:21 my testimony. Tell us a little bit, how you used to 04:25 fly or something or are you still flying or. Yeah, 04:28 I did, I did and I still do. About 7 years ago, 04:34 the Lord led me to Cincinnati, gave me my 04:37 dream job. I was the Chief Pilot for a large company 04:39 in Cincinnati. And within a couple of months there, 04:43 I met a young lady and I can't give, I can't do this 04:47 story, Justice my wife tells it much better than I do. 04:50 So, you'll have to ask her sometime. Were you a 04:52 Seventh-day Adventist then? No, I wasn't. And you 04:54 met this young lady, just a friend and. Yeah and I 04:58 mentioned to her that I was looking for a Church 05:00 and I asked her what her Church was like. And she 05:04 mentioned that she went to Church on Saturdays and 05:07 my response that was well. Saturday or Sunday it 05:09 doesn't really matter, either day works for me 05:13 because I'm off on the weekends. So, the next 05:17 Sabbath, I met her at her Church and it just so 05:21 happened that the message there that day was Daniel 05:25 Prophecy of 1260 days, something I had never 05:27 heard of before, and I was fascinated by it. 05:31 And so what happened after that I mean. 05:35 Well, I continued my job and I was out of town on 05:37 a lot of weekends, but I was able to find local 05:41 Adventist Churches in every city that I would fly 05:44 to. And I would make a point to go to those 05:47 Churches and I continued to grow and then when I 05:50 get back to Cincinnati I started to do Bible studies 05:54 with Conference Bible Workers. And within a couple 05:56 of years I had join the Church. And, I think you got 06:00 married too. Yeah, we got married also. And so, 06:03 are you still flying today or what are you doing? 06:06 Well, shortly after that I mentioned to my wife that, 06:10 my job felt unfulfilling and I felt like God had more 06:14 for us and so we discussed and through the 06:19 conversation it was determine that maybe I 06:22 should look at teaching which is something I've 06:24 never done before, possibly history and within a 06:27 couple of weeks of that conversation God opened a 06:30 door and let it be known to us that there was a school 06:33 in the middle of Tennessee looking for a history 06:35 teacher. Sam wasn't it kind of difficult. I mean 06:38 here you are working for a commercial company 06:40 flying and you're gonna step down from you know 06:43 kind of a prestigious job I mean flying airplanes 06:47 corporately and you're gonna go to teaching some 06:49 place. I mean, what would motivate you to do that 06:52 and was it a difficult decision for you? Yeah, 06:54 a lot of people think that it was a difficult decision, 06:58 but like everything in my life, God led me in small 07:02 steps. And so the decision was actually fairly simple 07:06 for my wife and I, although you know, it was a 07:08 serious lifestyle change. It was an easy decision to 07:13 make and something we look back on and look at 07:16 how easy it was to just go from being a corporate 07:21 pilot living in the Suburbs, to living on the campus of 07:23 a self-supporting school. And what self-supporting 07:26 school are you at now? We're at Heritage Academy in 07:28 Monterey, Tennessee. And so are you teaching 07:30 History like you were planning on? Well, the first 07:33 year that I was at, that I was hired at Heritage, 07:38 at ASI, David Gates with GMI came to our principal 07:43 and asked if there was anyway that Heritage could 07:45 have a flight program. And our principal said you're 07:48 not going to believe this but we just hired a pilot 07:50 as a History teacher. So, they brought the idea to me 07:55 and I said no, no, no, we don't want to do flight 07:58 instruction. It's a direction our school really doesn't 08:02 need to go; here I'm telling missionaries how, what is 08:07 necessary in the mission field. Oh! When you were 08:09 thinking about going there and teaching History were 08:11 you a certified History teacher or something like 08:14 that. No, no, I wasn't. But, I was able to go there 08:18 and start teaching History and I, you know my wife 08:21 and I we knew, we had walked away from aviation. 08:25 That's what I believed actually. And so you did 08:26 completely walkway from aviation. I did for about six 08:31 months. Six months, so what happened, I mean you 08:34 said something to me back stage about the academy is 08:37 involved with some kind of aviation program and 08:39 that, I've been to lot of self-supporting academies 08:41 and I've never heard of an academy having an 08:43 aviation program. Tell us a little bit about that. 08:46 Well, the following year at ASI, I actually came and 08:51 in the course of things I discovered another 08:54 organization called AWA, Adventist World Aviation. 08:57 I met Don Starlin the president and we started 09:01 talking and he mentioned that, he thought this was a 09:05 good idea for Heritage to have a flight program. 09:08 I continued to really not pursue it and through 09:14 prayer on AWA's behalf within six months God 09:19 delivered an airplane to our front door. 09:21 You're kidding me. Yeah, at which point our 09:23 president of our school and I had to approach the 09:26 board and, seriously reconsider, and mentioned 09:27 to them we'll have a flight program. You started 09:29 seriously reconsidering. We did, we did. So what is, 09:33 what are you doing now, what's the program in the 09:34 school? Are you doing like an awareness with the 09:35 kids or you what are you doing with the aviation 09:38 program exactly? Well, at our school of course as a 09:42 self-supporting school we have academics, vocational 09:45 spiritual training and this is just one of the 09:47 vocational tools. We feel like it's important to give 09:52 these young people not only the academic that you 09:55 would get at any high school, but the vocational 09:59 training and the vocational training should be useful 10:01 to the mission field. And at this point aviation is 10:04 extremely needed in the mission field. And so are 10:08 the young people coming away with a sense of the 10:11 importance of aviation then and are you actually 10:13 taking them up and giving them pilot lessons and. 10:16 Yes, yes, we have a program written that a student 10:21 could start during their sophomore year and through 10:24 the course of their high school from sophomore to 10:26 the senior year, if they graduated at the age 18 it's 10:31 possible that they could have their commercial 10:32 pilot's license at which point they graduate from 10:36 high school, commercial pilot's license goes 10:39 straight to the mission field at age 18. 10:41 That's sounds like the kind of academy. I would 10:42 like to go to. I love Airplanes, be flying. 10:46 So, what is gonna be the long term affects of you 10:49 think of having this program at Heritage Academy. 10:53 Well, the program is growing extremely quickly. 10:57 God has taught me a lot about faith and he continues 10:59 to do that. Praise God. Last year, of course we 11:03 had our Cessna 150, that's what we're using for 11:05 training. God is making a way for us to build a 11:07 runway this fall on our campus. We're working on 11:11 on through prayer and planning, we're planning on 11:18 building a hanger to store, not only our Cessna 150 11:22 but also a Cessna 172 because God has also 11:26 brought the means for us to purchase a Cessna 172, 11:31 I've been shopping the last week for another airplane. 11:34 Well, praise God. And Sam thank you for your time 11:36 coming up here and I appreciate what you're doing 11:39 there, it's a really exciting story. Thank you. 11:42 Pretty amazing huh, somebody willing to step 11:44 down from commercial flying and accepting the 11:47 Sabbath and then marrying an Adventist girl and now 11:51 doing an aviation program for the Lord. Don, it's been 11:55 longtime since I saw you. I think that we kind of 11:57 first got acquainted, this is Don Folkenberg by the 11:59 way, I'm sorry I know him pretty well, and I was 12:03 just actually at a camp meeting last weekend with 12:06 your nephew Don, Bob Folkenberg Jr, we were 12:08 speaking at a camp meeting together. I think I 12:10 first met you in Bulgaria, early 90s something like 12:13 that and we both fly quite a bit and so we would run 12:16 into each other in the strangest places, I can 12:17 remember one time we were, I was at Frankford 12:20 airport and stopped at the lounge there because I had 12:22 a long layover and you were there and we spend quite 12:24 a bit of time talking and. So, we spend quite a bit of 12:26 time in airplanes right I mean a good part of our 12:29 life. We seem to live on board. Yeah so, you have a 12:32 interesting experience considering all the things 12:34 that happened with 9/11 and the security situations 12:37 on airplanes and such. Tell us a little bit about an 12:39 experience you recently had on one of the your 12:42 commercial flights. March and April, I was date block 12:46 manager for a group of students in Malaysia from 12:50 Fountainview Academy and I got to know some of 12:55 the staff members, the president of the institution 12:58 gave me a set of DVDs and I started to listen to them. 13:03 And in fact, well one week into the series of meetings 13:07 I got notice or a telephone call that my father-in-law 13:12 had passed away. He was 95, had lived a good life, 13:16 loved the Lord and was looking forward to him 13:18 coming. But that necessitated me heading 13:22 for home and that is a problem when all the flights 13:25 as you know running full. And there was a plus factor 13:31 to this flight and that is that I was upgraded to first 13:35 class. As that was hard to take. Somebody's got to do 13:40 it. Well, I'm sitting there with my computer open 13:47 listening to the DVDs. Now, is this a DVD series of 13:50 the kids singing like in monument valley and. 13:53 How many of you seen that series. The kids from 13:55 Fountainview, isn't that good. Really well. Really 13:57 well produced, really well produced. And it's very 14:00 really following the Steps to Christ. And, I noticed 14:04 have you ever been in a situation where you notice 14:08 people around you but you didn't really look at them. 14:12 And I notice that behind me there were a number of 14:15 the crew. And I had my headset on, I was not paying 14:21 any attention to anybody other then listening to this 14:24 beautiful music, and I pulled my headset off and 14:28 I said, can I help you. They said, we can't help but 14:32 notice that it would appear this music that you are 14:35 listening to is really incredible. And I jerked my 14:39 headset off and I said, well listen for yourself. 14:43 And they did, and they passed it around and they 14:45 listened and they listened and they listened. They said 14:48 is there someway that we could show this onboard the 14:52 plane, and I said, I haven't the foggiest idea. 14:59 Long story short, they took the DVD set from me. 15:02 Now, you need to understand when you're 15:04 flying international. Nowadays you don't get to 15:07 go between cabins. I don't know whether they did or 15:13 didn't. Except, well let me go back in the story. 15:20 The president of the institution had told me 15:22 you know we have some students that felt that 15:25 putting together this set of DVDs was really a waste 15:29 of time. We, you know nobody is gonna to watch it. 15:36 I said, will you give me five minutes? By the way 15:41 they're getting on the bus, leaving hope where we had 15:46 our Share Him festival, I said I would like to talk 15:49 to these young people and I told them the story that 15:51 I'm telling you right now. I said, you folks have no 15:58 idea the effect that your work in making this set of 16:05 DVDs had on those people. I don't really know, 16:10 but the fact of the matter is many, many, many people 16:14 were introduce to Jesus Christ, by the work that you 16:18 did and it was so incredible. Well, there was lots of 16:25 silence, I have no questions in my mind that many, 16:30 many people just by watching had a chance of 16:38 seeing Jesus Christ, his life portrayed and what 16:43 it can do for you and I. All I know is when I got off 16:50 I tried to get back into the tourist class cabin, because 16:55 I wanted to see if in fact they were going to be 16:57 showing it back there and they wouldn't let me. 17:02 They said, you cannot switch cabins, you cannot even 17:05 use the bathrooms back and forth between the 17:07 cabins, there is no congregating in the aisles. 17:10 So, do you think that they were that they the flight 17:12 crew that were sitting behind you were indicating 17:13 they were going to put it on and just let everybody on 17:15 the plane watch it. That's what they wanted to, 17:18 that's what they said. My response was, hey look I 17:21 fly this airline an awful lot, a few million miles worth. 17:26 It's a good airline, I want to continue doing so. 17:29 So, make sure that you run this permission process by 17:33 the captain and they said look the captain, he's sort 17:39 of the last word. In fact one of the staff member 17:43 said on this plane we have a bunk house up above and 17:48 she says I'm getting ready to take my break. I want to 17:51 find out if they will fix it up so I can watch it up in 17:55 the break room. Folks, we have no idea, the effect of 18:05 people around us observing us, watching what we're 18:09 watching and points them in a direction that hey we 18:16 might see them in heaven again. Yep, I often say 18:21 DVDs and television programs can boldly go 18:23 where many other people cannot go. Cannot go. 18:26 And I know that's true even in homes and huts in 18:29 Hindu religious and Nepal and India and we don't 18:32 understand. Often times the power of just having 18:35 something like a DVD presentation or in this case 18:38 with the kids from Fairhaven, it's Fairhaven 18:41 right? Fountainview, Fountainview, Fountainview. 18:43 that produced this series, it's really 18:45 good. Well, Don, I appreciated you sharing 18:47 that with us and its good to see you again and a quick 18:51 comment, guys, a couple seconds here. Well see you 18:54 in Frankfort again. Okay, okay, God bless. 18:57 Next we have a very interesting story. We're 19:00 gonna not be on flying time so much but it's Randy 19:04 and Tammy Bevins and these folks move from 19:08 beautiful Oregon down to Ukiah, California. 19:11 And you told me a little bit of a story and it's kind of 19:15 sad story but really an encouraging story at the 19:17 same time. Tell us a little bit about your move and 19:20 what happened. I'm gonna talk just briefly and then 19:24 I'm gonna let Tammy talk, about roughly a year and 19:29 have ago we decided to sell our home and we listed 19:33 it, we put it, put it up, you know for sale and 19:38 nothing was happening, nothing was happening. 19:39 We just felt God impressing us that we needed to 19:41 move and as time went on we started to realize why 19:45 the house wasn't selling. Well, when we moved 19:51 Ukiah, I had three small children, twins that were 19:55 two and a three month old and our house was fairly 19:58 large and I said I cannot clean this. I just don't 20:01 have time. So, we hired a house keeper somebody 20:05 who was really good in our community and she 20:11 worked for us for five years and about a year ago 20:16 she, well she had been asking me if she needed to 20:19 see a priest for forgiveness and I told her no and 20:26 she kept asking me every few weeks she would ask 20:29 me and so one day I gave her a Steps to Christ and 20:33 she was a Hispanic Catholic. Did you give it to her 20:35 in Spanish or English. Spanish. But she speaks 20:38 fairly good English. Yes, Oh good. But she preferred 20:40 to read in Spanish. And she a few weeks later she 20:45 came to me and said, you know that Steps to Christ 20:49 you gave me she said I loved it and I want to give 20:51 some to my sisters, could I buy some from you, 20:54 I said oh no I said I've got more and so I went to the 20:57 closet and I went to my stash and got some for her 21:00 and she was so happy to have them, she has 13 21:03 siblings so she has a big family. So, some months 21:11 went by and we were talking about the Bible, 21:13 she goes I don't know too much about the Bible and 21:16 I could hear the Holy Spirit saying this is your 21:19 opportunity, so powerful. So, I said Rosa, would you 21:23 like to study the Bible with me I said we could do 21:27 three studies and if you like it we'll keep going she 21:29 said okay. So, we did it and we kept doing it and 21:33 doing it and about a year later we're still doing it 21:37 and we're getting into prophecy and. Were you 21:41 nervous about asking her about having Bible studies? 21:44 I mean are you a trained Bible study. No, no, I've 21:46 never given one. You've never given a Bible study at 21:49 this point. No, no. And what gave you the courage to 21:51 just step out and ask her something like that, I mean. 21:55 Well, I've been. And that's a really difficult question. 21:57 It is. You get to know somebody and you started 21:58 having some spiritual conversations and that next 22:00 step you know like you know would you be interested 22:03 in Bible studies, well that's a hard line to get out. 22:06 Well, I've been praying for God to use me somehow, 22:10 my world is very small because I'm taking care of 22:13 small children and my mom had been doing some 22:18 Bible studies in her home lifting up Jesus in her 22:21 community. And so, and talking about it saying they 22:24 are so easy to do and people love them and so I 22:28 anyway I just. So, did she say yes. She said yes, 22:31 yes. Tammy had been giving Bible studies they 22:35 had been about 20 Bible studies at this point in time 22:38 and I remember Rosa worked on Wednesday morning 22:41 and I went up and I saw her she was in our bathroom 22:44 cleaning and I said Rosa tell me how is it going 22:48 And she goes you know that Bible that Tammy 22:50 bought for me and she goes I read it every day she 22:52 goes I don't have time for lunch because I read it 22:54 during my lunch hour and I almost can't get time to 22:57 eat any lunch I'm just reading studying and her 23:00 face was the face of an angel. God gave me that 23:07 image because it wasn't shortly after that where 23:11 things started falling apart. We had her over for 23:15 dinner, there was a Hispanic man in our Church who 23:18 had been studying with, with her and Tammy. 23:20 They got into prophecy, he started giving it to her 23:22 Spanish, so that it would be clearly understood and 23:25 she was grasping it, accepting it every step of 23:28 the way and she was right there and we had her over 23:31 for dinner and she seemed to be kind of out of it, 23:35 like there was something wrong, we started talking to 23:37 her, they said that her doctor had put her on Prozac 23:40 and she taken one dose and I said one dose won't do 23:43 that for you, I mean it's gonna to take you seven days 23:45 I mean she was so bad that I had to drive her car 23:48 home. What was happening with her, why was she. 23:50 No one, no one understood they said that she was 23:52 depressed, they took her off to Mexico and put her in 23:54 an in-patient program, she was there about three or 23:57 four days, she came back, they put her into a 23:59 neurology ward in Santa Rosa. She became more and 24:04 more demented, and they finally diagnosed her about 24:10 maybe a week later, she had Jakob Creutzfeldt 24:13 Variant, she had Mad Cow Disease. Wow. They told 24:17 her that she should go home and that she would have 24:19 maybe two weeks to live. We went there everyday in 24:23 fact she was comatose, she actually died ten days 24:28 later, she didn't even live the two weeks. But there 24:32 were like 50 family members there everyday and we 24:35 would go over and I remember once, one of the nieces 24:39 said you know maybe God just needs Rosa in heaven 24:44 and Tammy, I counted maybe three seconds and then 24:47 she goes wait you know Rosa understood the state of 24:51 the death and she accepted it and she in fact said that 24:54 she wanted her family to understand the state of the 24:57 dead and Tammy gave a Bible study on the state of 25:00 the dead to the whole family while Rosa's laying there 25:03 almost dead on the bed. Randy wasn't that the last 25:07 Bible study she had was on the state of the dead. 25:10 Actually it wasn't, she had, they were into prophecy 25:12 by then, but she had told Tammy that her mother back 25:16 in Mexico when her brother had died her mother had 25:20 spend lots of time and money on masses and you 25:23 know things to help move her brother out of 25:29 purgatory and spend a lot of money and she said I just 25:32 wish that my mother would know the truth. 25:35 You know it just makes me think that you just never 25:37 know you know meet people in their acquainting 25:39 somebody you work with and we just assumed that 25:41 they're gonna to be there next week or the week after, 25:43 the week after that. And we hesitate sometimes to be 25:47 a little bit more bold, to have Holy boldness to step 25:49 forward and say you know Lord what can I do to be 25:52 able to share Christ with this person, to bond with this 25:55 person to make you know this person become aware 25:57 of God and what is Holy Spirit is doing. And to come 26:01 full circle that about the same the week that she 26:04 became so demented that we couldn't communicated 26:06 with her, remember I told you our house had been for 26:09 sale, we got a phone call not listed anymore, got a 26:12 phone call and said hey do you want to still sell your 26:13 house and it did. Wow, amazing, you have any last 26:19 last second thoughts you like to share with everybody 26:21 well do you. Well, one other thing that was amazing 26:24 was we won't able to be at her actual funeral service, 26:30 but the Spanish man who had been helping us with 26:34 the Bible studies. He asked the family members if it 26:37 was okay if he passed out some books to the family. 26:40 So, that day he passed out 30 great controversies and 26:44 30 Desire of Ages to the family members. So. Amen. 26:49 Yeah, God worked big. And the Lord brings a lot of 26:51 people in our paths and we need to be aware of that 26:54 situation around us all the time that person might be 26:57 there for a special reason at a special time. That God 27:01 could use us to touch their lives. Well, thank you and 27:03 God bless. Good evening ASI. Good evening. 27:19 It's a great pleasure for us coming from Europe to be 27:22 here. This evening sharing with you our experience 27:27 and how everything is going in Europe. So, I have 27:30 with me on my left side Ruben Dias, he is a ASI 27:34 Europe vice president for marketing and growth and 27:36 Radim Passer that he is the vice president for projects 27:40 and evangelism and my name is Angel Duo, I'm the 27:43 president of ASI Europe. So, we will have some 27:47 information from what is going on in the old Europe, 27:50 so Ruben what do you have for us? Good evening 27:53 ASI again. Good evening. We are happy to be here 27:56 and I want to bring you some fresh news about the 27:59 growth and what is happening at ASI Europe, 28:03 although Europe, it has a lot languages, different 28:07 cultures, there is a lot of challenges, there are many 28:11 countries as you know. I like to share a map right 28:15 now of the situation of different chapters. We have 28:20 in total 20 chapters, praise the Lord. We have 20 28:24 chapters now in Europe. We had about 7, not about 28:29 exactly 17 last year in different countries, 28:33 the main countries and in this year we can show the 28:36 map again probably. We can see three different 28:40 countries that ones that are in red, yeah red, we have 28:46 Poland, Lithuania, and Croatia. I just want to 28:50 share with you in the next photo, an interesting 28:54 detail, for example Lithuania we have right here today 28:57 the offices of Lithuania, actually they were motivated 29:03 by a ASI member in Australia. You see how the 29:07 Lord works and sometimes we don't know the impact 29:11 that we have in different people and this particular 29:14 group was motivated by an ASI member in Australia 29:17 that made them to go ahead and start their own 29:19 chapter of Lithuania. Then we also have the case of 29:23 Poland with young entrepreneurs that have 29:26 started this chapter there. And in Croatia as you see 29:29 the photo here, we had a meeting in April, this is 29:32 probably the quickest start up ASI chapter that we can 29:38 see that in about two or three months actually less 29:42 than three months that chapter was established, 29:46 praise the Lord for that. And Croatia is doing very 29:49 well, very well motivated to move forward. We have 29:53 almost 1000 members, 1000 members in Europe and 29:58 although the challenge is different cultures again and 30:00 different languages, I think that the Lord is blessing 30:03 us tremendously. Amen. So, Radim as I said he is 30:08 responsible for the projects and the evangelism. 30:12 So, he has very interesting stories for us. Good 30:16 evening ASI. Good evening. We have two main 30:19 projects in Europe, one is used for Jesus program 30:24 and second one is DVD training for working in small 30:27 groups. I think we are grateful to Lord because, 30:32 because use for Jesus program is growing in many 30:35 countries in Europe. I can mention Hungary, England, 30:40 Spain, France, Portugal, I forgot may be Czech 30:45 Republic and I would say even in the working in 30:50 small groups is in, even in some other countries. 30:56 I can show you some pictures from last year I'm 31:00 also president of Czechoslovakia ASI and we 31:03 had in last year of November 1st DVD training 31:07 program with more than 200 people. Many of them 31:11 committed to use this series. And it was also my 31:18 blessing because I could use first time in my life 31:23 twice during last year DVD program in the complete 31:27 series in our country and I could say 18 people made 31:34 decision for Baptism, five were already Baptized and 31:40 more than 40 people are studying on a regular basis 31:44 Bible. So, we hope many of them will be baptized as 31:48 well. 10 people from our country visited Tanzania, 31:53 Djibouti and to we held five meetings this Spring, 32:00 five places and 116 people were baptized and it was 32:04 I think also a blessing for many people in our country 32:08 and also in Tanzania, so praise the Lord for all this 32:11 work. Amen. So, as you see ASI Europe is active, 32:16 is working. We have great challenges, because we 32:20 cover two divisions, multilingual, multicultural, 32:24 it's not easy for us to cover the whole territory, 32:28 but in any case we are encouraging people to 32:30 become members of ASI and we want to invite you 32:34 to our convention next year. It, this convention we 32:39 have every two years will be in south Germany in a 32:41 very special place in Konstanz, a lot of you know 32:45 about the story of the protestants movement of 32:50 that reformation. So, Konstanz is a very important 32:53 place where Jan Hus was killed. So, we will have 32:57 there our convention next year mid-June. So, you are 33:01 all kindly invited we would like to see you there and 33:04 in the mean time God bless you all and enjoy this 33:08 convention as every year we do. Amen. 33:25 Good evening. Good evening. I love ASI, how about 33:28 you? Amen. Praise God. You know I have a friend of 33:32 mine here with me. Tell us your name. My name is 33:38 James Hartley. James, where are you from. I'm from 33:41 Wildwood, North Georgia just outside of 33:44 Chattanooga. And so what do you do there in 33:47 Wildwood. Wildwood is a location of our 33:50 headquarters for a new ministry called LIGHT. 33:52 It's called its a acronym for the Lay Institute for 33:55 Global Health Training. So, you what kind of training 34:00 do you do? We offer our short courses in help 34:04 evangelism. We do that all over the world. Well, 34:08 all over the world, so you're doing training, 34:12 are you training pastors? Sometimes pastors sit in, 34:16 but our emphasis is on training lay members because 34:19 we believe pastors are alone are not equal to 34:22 spreading the gospel to the whole world. So, we are 34:24 working to equip and train lay members so they can 34:26 be involved in their communities and in their 34:29 churches to win souls for Jesus. So, when you train 34:34 these people I mean are you train them like ten at a 34:37 time or are you doing a few meetings you know 34:41 around the world in a year. How do you do that? Sure, 34:44 well we emphasize mostly a four week training 34:47 course. And we usually have 20 to 30 students 34:52 because we're teaching them to do health expos. 34:55 We are teaching them about the health message. 34:59 teaching them how to apply hydro therapy treatments, 35:02 massage, cooking classes. It's very practical, it's very 35:05 hands on so we can't really fit too many into a course. 35:09 So, you can't fit too many people, how many people 35:13 attend on average, the lay people, now these are Lay 35:16 People that he's training, how many people usually 35:21 attend one and how long is the training? Well, we do 35:24 it for a month. That's our standard course. We also 35:27 have a six months training course, but last year we did 35:31 42 one month training courses. Now, how do we do 35:35 so many just because what we are doing is really 35:38 offering mission opportunities for graduates, 35:41 they come out of schools like Wildwood Lifestyle 35:43 Centers or Uchee Pines, LIFE, Lay Institute For 35:47 Evangelism and several other schools, OCI, Outpost 35:50 Centers International Schools around the world. 35:52 We are using those graduates that have usually had at 35:54 least 4 to 6 months training and we are giving them a 35:57 training package as, it's a course that is 4 weeks long 36:02 and it's an intensive, all day training where they 36:04 go through the essentials, strip down essentials for 36:06 soul winning and reaching people with the health 36:09 message and the Gospel and so these courses we're 36:12 sending out teams of usually 3 and 4 teachers that will 36:16 train 20 to 30 students. So, it's kind of a 36:21 self-supporting work. Yeah. In other words 36:25 everybody is kind to helping everybody else and kind 36:27 of up the challenge. Yeah that's right, that's right. 36:31 Although, the teachers that we use they're usually 36:33 students that are coming out and they have a personal 36:36 responsibility where they're raising money for their 36:38 airfare. And some of them are committing up to a 36:40 year in the mission field, we still have some students 36:43 in India. We went there in January where we did 12 36:48 one month courses simultaneously over actually 36:51 January and February, trained 350 lay members and 36:55 then we had several students, we sent 30 missionaries 36:59 there and we still have several that are working 37:01 there because we're running three 6 month courses 37:03 there as well and we're finishing those up soon. 37:07 Okay, so you're doing that and when did you start 37:10 doing this training? We initially started couple of 37:13 years ago, in 2008 we did about 20 one month 37:16 courses. In the so in the 20 one month courses how 37:21 many people did you train? Maybe about 500. 37:24 About 500 lay people. That's right. That took a 37:26 month out of their time in the different countries. 37:29 Full commitment. And what you in the next year. 37:32 Next year, 42. So, you had 42 training session. 37:37 About how many people you usually train. 37:38 Trained about a 1000 people. Trained about a 1000 37:40 people. Yeah and this year we've done 46 one month 37:45 courses in all 6 continents. We are doing them in 37:48 Australia, Philippians, Indonesia, all through Africa 37:53 and South Africa, Kenya, Tanzania and then also in 37:58 Guatemala, Honduras, Brazil, throughout in the 38:02 Caribbean, Bermuda, Bahamas, in United States 38:05 and then in Europe, Ireland, England, Italy, 38:12 Switzerland, yeah more can't think of them all. 38:16 So, how many do you think you're gonna to train this 38:18 year and what's the goal for next year? Well, 38:21 this year we're hoping to get 70 courses done and 38:24 train about 2500 and then next year, we just hope it 38:27 keeps multiplying as we just keep adding, we just 38:29 hope that the students, it's kind of a design that the 38:32 students, that, we train people to go out. So, we 38:34 pray it just multiplies so that every Adventist can get 38:38 an opportunity to get trained, because one thing 38:40 I notice I've been able to travel to over 35 countries 38:45 and I've noticed in most countries, most parts of the 38:47 world and our Church members don't have a chance 38:50 for short Lay Training courses it's usually the only 38:53 option is to go a four year theology school to become 38:57 a pastor but that's not allowed a lay training 38:59 courses. So, they apply to the U.S. or Europe for this 39:02 courses. So, we want to them to be trained in their 39:05 country, in their language. So, we have a curriculum 39:08 that we're using that we've developed from our 39:10 various schools we are working with. And we're 39:11 translating into several languages and we have it in 39:13 Portuguese and Spanish and German and Russian. 39:16 So, what do you do in our last moments here? Tell me 39:20 what you've added now to the training program? 39:24 Yeah this is exciting. That just started this week. 39:28 That's right. In Guatemala we added a new feature 39:31 working with ASI, the new beginnings training. 39:34 So we have, we did 4 one month courses going on 39:38 simultaneously with our students in Guatemala and 39:40 Belize and then on the weekends we bring all the 39:43 Church members that can come for the DVD training. 39:45 So, we're training our students to train the Church 39:49 to give the new beginnings DVD which is also now 39:51 coupled with the Abundant Living health talks which 39:53 we're excited about. Which ASI added this 39:56 this year the Abundant Living health 39:58 talks In the DVDs. That's right. 40:00 And so and the one that we did that you, you just 40:03 did down in Guatemala, how many different 40:05 Churches came to learn about how to use the DVD? 40:09 We had 18 different churches represented in 40:11 small groups and so we trained 120 different 40:15 members in our one month courses but then 40:18 we also invited we had a big training of 200 that 40:21 came in for the DVD and next week on next 40:24 Sabbath and Sunday we're gonna run training 40:26 in Belize another 100 that will be trained. 40:28 So, I think next year as things are developing and 40:33 we continue to add the DVD I hope you guys 40:35 have a lot of DVDs for us 'cause 40:36 I think we will need about 10,000. 40:38 10,000 DVD, can you say Praise God? Praise God. 40:42 That's what we are looking to do. 40:44 That's the training, taking it out there and you know 40:48 it's listed in the offering this year, but this is part 40:51 of what our offering goes for is the DVDs and the 40:56 training that's going on around the world that it's 41:00 exponentially growing and this is just one 41:04 example of people taking that DVD training and 41:08 how it's growing. Amen. Thank you. Thank you. 41:19 And I have another guest. Now I'll tell you I was a 41:22 little nervous for a minute because he was, he was 41:25 back there and then he was gone and I'm going 41:27 oh, oh. So, my guest tell me who you are? 41:32 Hello Terry, my name is Rodney MacCallum, 41:37 I am fortunate I didn't speak with an accent but 41:40 all the Americans do, because I'm from 41:42 Australia and my background was a 41:50 rancher in Outback Australia. 41:53 So, you're a rancher in Outback Australia. 41:56 And you are now live where, Wyoming? 42:00 Detroit, Michigan. Detroit, Michigan. 42:03 And what do you do in Detroit, Michigan? 42:09 With another man by the name of Sam Bonello, 42:12 who happens to be my nephew and an American 42:17 Jerry Thomas we have a ministry called 42:19 Advent Interfaith Initiative. 42:22 Advent Interfaith Initiative. Now, the 42:23 Interfaith might throw some people off but what 42:27 does Advent interfaith Initiate do? 42:30 What's your focus? Our focus is to take the 42:35 three angels messages to the people of Islam. 42:40 The people of Islam. Yes, to Muslims. 42:43 To Muslims. Well, how do you do that? 42:48 We are very high identity Adventists, we are 42:57 Seventh-day Adventists. So, let me ask you a 42:59 question you're Seventh-day Adventist. 43:00 So, you go to the people and you started in Detroit 43:05 from what you said. So, you go there, now 43:08 do you tell them you're Seventh-day 43:10 Adventist or do you hide? No, no, no, now we're 43:14 Seventh-day Adventists. We'll go into a Mosque, 43:17 we'll introduce ourselves. We, the first thing that 43:22 I learned is we are Seventh-day Adventist. 43:23 So, you've spoken in a Mosque? Yes. 43:27 As a Seventh Day Adventist. As a Seventh Day Adventist, 43:29 yes, we're actually invited to speak in a 43:34 mosque as a Seventh-day Adventist to deliver a 43:39 message on whatever we believed or whatever 43:42 I believed as a Seventh- day Adventist that Islam 43:44 needed to hear. And I was given 30 minutes and at 43:51 the end of the 30 minutes, the leader of the Mosque 43:56 said to me to continue, he said this is important, 44:02 continue, take as long as you want, we'll abandon 44:05 the evening program, so I spoke for 44:07 2 hours and 40 minutes. 44:10 Now, what did you speak on for 2 hours and 40 minutes? 44:16 I explained who we are as Seventh-day Adventists, 44:20 I certainly impressed the importance of prophecy 44:25 and at the end of the lecture. 44:27 Like Daniel 2. I started from, just 44:32 another view from Genesis to Revelation 44:36 and at the end of it I was invited to return to deliver 44:42 the prophetic warning to Islam, so.. 44:45 Wait a minute. You were able to deliver a prophetic 44:50 warning to Islam and they listened. 44:55 We've gone from Daniel 2 through Revelation 14 44:59 to this day plus topical subjects. We have been 45:06 live streamed throughout he Islamic world. 45:08 There's been no problems, we've been 45:12 identified as the true people of the book, the 45:15 book being the Bible, that Seventh-day Adventists 45:18 are the true people of the book. The leader of, that 45:24 particular leader had visions to that effect and 45:32 it's interesting Terry that we've been, he knows 45:38 who we are, that we are Seventh-day Adventists. 45:42 So, we're not hiding that we're Seventh-day 45:43 Adventists. You are going into the Mosque; you are 45:45 talking to the Muslims that as a Seventh-day 45:49 Adventist and what we believe. Yup. 45:51 And they're interested in the Three Angels Message. 45:55 Yes, and we actually, we're only a small 46:00 ministry but we're developing materials. 46:02 We have a DVD that we actually debut in the 46:06 Mosque, show cased it in the Mosque, they're 46:08 copying it and they're distributing it. 46:13 So, they're distributing a DVD that you helped 46:17 produce in the Mosques. Alright, well. 46:22 And they're happily receiving this. 46:26 Oh yes, yeah, yeah, and we have some tracks, we 46:29 have some other materials which you know you're 46:31 most welcome, people are most welcome to the 46:33 booth to see. But, the Sheik did give us a little 46:39 warning though, he said, he said I know who you 46:41 are, but if you are whom you claim be, how can 46:44 you be a 1500 years old and Islam has never heard 46:47 of you, never heard of Seventh-day Adventists, 46:49 but then he quickly went on to say however he said 46:53 you have a responsibility with your message to take 46:56 it to the world, a responsibility to God, 46:59 otherwise you'll be judged by God and we're 47:01 to take that message unbridled. We are not to 47:09 compromise our doctrines or our beliefs in any 47:12 shape of form. And this, hold on, let me 47:15 interrupt you. This is the leader or one of the local 47:19 leaders was telling you this is what we as 47:23 Seventh-day Adventists needed to do. 47:25 Yes, precisely. And that particular 47:28 Mosque has profound influence in the world and 47:34 they actually were given, we gave them a copy of 47:38 the Great Controversy. They read it, they had a 47:42 girl in the office photocopy it six times, 47:46 it was stapled together, two chapters at a time, 47:48 handed out throughout the Mosque for the whole 47:50 Mosque to read and his response was 47:54 this is the most profound book. 47:56 Can we say amen? Amen. 48:00 This is, this stirs my heart that these people would 48:05 called the book that has the greatest impact on our 48:10 Church. And what did they tell it, 48:12 what did they say about. The most profound book. 48:14 The most profound book, amen. Amen. 48:19 You know again, this is the type of thing that we 48:22 support in our offerings. This is members in 48:25 action, these are people who go and work in 48:29 communities that we thought would be very 48:34 difficult to work in and they have open 48:38 arms when you go in with the truth. |
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