Participants: Pr. Joshua Nelson (Host), Kean Baxter, Kimberly Pearson, Kory P. Douglas, Marquis Jackson
Series Code: PC
Program Code: PC000023
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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:05 may be too candid for younger children. 00:39 Hello, and welcome to Pure Choices. 00:41 I'm your host Pastor Joshua Nelson, 00:43 and we have another good one for you. 00:45 Today, we're talking about the hip-hop of sex. 00:49 And before we get into our subject 00:51 and topic today, I want to introduce our panel again. 00:53 To my left, I have Pastor Marquis Jackson 00:57 who is the pastor in South Carolina, 00:59 Sumter and Manning district. 01:02 We also have over here, Miss Kimberly Pearson 01:04 who is the assistant chaplain at Oakwood University. 01:08 We also have Pastor Kory Douglas 01:10 who is the pastor over there at Grand Avenue 01:15 and New Life Fellowship 01:16 which is in the Central States Conference, 01:17 I believe. Yes, sir. 01:19 And we also have our professor, we call him Kean Baxter, 01:23 who is our recent MDiv graduate from the seminary. 01:27 And so we just want to talk about 01:28 this important topic today, 01:31 talking about the hip-hop of sex 01:34 and really wanting to figure out 01:36 what has the society or media done 01:40 to give us an image about sex or sexuality today. 01:46 And basically, really what I want to ask 01:48 first is looking at the past, okay, 01:52 and how things were in the society, 01:53 in the media, has anything changed? 01:56 And if so, what has changed? 01:58 I want to say, it has changed. 02:00 It's just a level of it's been available or open. 02:04 There'd be songs, you know, back in, 02:06 you know, our parents or grandparents' days 02:08 that may give suggestions of sexual implications 02:13 but they are very mass encoded. 02:15 Now we're living in a society 02:16 where everything is just all up in your face 02:19 and it's just even into tenth and eleventh degree 02:22 and all that stuff. 02:23 So it's not as much of a code, it's just blatantly, 02:26 overtly in your face. 02:27 Okay, would you all agree with that? 02:28 I would agree but I would add. 02:30 So I think that a lot has actually changed, 02:32 you know, media... 02:34 And I would even go beyond sex. 02:36 I mean, definitely sex has become 02:38 more prevalent on television 02:39 but I was watching television the other day, 02:41 and I'm starting to realize that now more and more 02:43 has become more acceptable to even curse on television. 02:46 And I'm not talking about cable, 02:48 talking about, you know, 02:49 primetime, regular public access, 02:52 public network television, 02:53 people are going to say an A word, 02:55 and now they're saying the B word. 02:56 I mean, they're just saying like it's nothing. 02:58 And the same thing can be said of sex, 02:59 you know, at first, it was you know 03:01 just a little skin here and there, 03:03 and as we've grown on, 03:05 it's almost like watching pornos 03:08 on network television. 03:10 And that really what's being said now 03:12 is that's just a part of who we are, 03:14 you know, we should just be proud of our sexuality, 03:16 we should flaunt it, it's a celebration of art 03:19 is often what said, you know, so is that a problem? 03:23 Well, I think that, you know, 03:26 what hip-hop and media, it's powerful, it's powerful. 03:32 It has the means to put a lot of information 03:35 to a lot of people, you know, in lots of different ways 03:38 but the danger in that is that we become over stimulated 03:43 by the thing that we see, so I can go, 03:45 leave my house on a billboard. 03:47 I see four billboards that have a sexy body, a sexy figure, 03:51 then I get to the grocery store, 03:53 and then as I'm walking down the aisle, 03:54 I think of all the commercials I've seen 03:57 where somebody was doing something sexual 03:59 to advertise something I want. 04:01 Then I get in the checkout 04:02 and now there's 20 magazines with, 04:04 you know, famous people doing things 04:06 and this one is pregnant and oh, there is a scandal. 04:09 And so I learn how to relate to people sexually. 04:13 I learn about what is appropriate, 04:16 and what people like 04:17 from all these different forms of media. 04:18 And there's no filter to come in 04:21 and combat these images I'm being given. 04:23 Right, and really even if you try to say 04:26 something against that you looked at it as, 04:27 okay, you're all too conservative, 04:30 you're just you know you're just weird, 04:33 whatever the case may be. 04:35 Yeah, yeah. 04:36 I was going to say, the boundaries 04:39 are definitely being pushed. 04:42 And, you know, understanding the great controversy 04:46 between Christ and Satan. 04:50 And we realize that the devil has an agenda 04:53 and it's not only in media, it's in movies like we say. 04:57 The curse words, the nudity, sexual content, 05:01 the music as well have least sexual content. 05:05 One of the dangerous thing about music is that 05:08 how it influences the mind, it bypasses the logical filter 05:15 and go straight to the emotional bit. 05:17 So you can be affected by music and not even realize it. 05:22 The other thing I want to throw in is the clothing. 05:26 Especially... 05:28 Well, I don't know if it's especially, 05:29 you know, I could say women's clothes 05:31 but even nowadays, men's clothes are, 05:34 they're becoming tighter, more revealing 05:37 especially with the homosexuality 05:41 becoming mainstream and, you know, 05:45 men's dresses kind of starting to change as well 05:47 and becoming more sexual. 05:50 But I think what it does if you look at, 05:52 you know what hip-hop does, sometimes is, 05:55 it changes the terminology in how we relate to each other. 05:59 So you know in music, you may hear someone saying, 06:02 "Oh, you know, she's a B." 06:04 Or she's this or she's that and everybody's dancing to 06:08 and everybody loves it but then, 06:10 if you call me by that, 06:12 I have a problem with you, it's bad. 06:14 Or now, you know, now a lot of women, 06:17 if a man calls a woman out of her name, it's bad. 06:20 But if we call ourselves a name and put bad in front of it, 06:23 I'm a bad, you know, B or whatever, 06:26 then it's a good thing. 06:27 Now it means I'm sexy, now it means, 06:30 you know, I've got respect. 06:31 And so that comes out of a culture 06:35 where we're being kind of brainwashed. 06:37 Brainwashed, yeah. 06:41 We're being brainwashed 06:42 and it's developing into that society. 06:44 I just wanted to add a little bit to that 06:46 as well earlier is that when you look in the Bible, 06:49 Cain killed his brother Abel, and God was, 06:51 you know, going to bring punishment to him 06:53 seven fold to someone who's going to kill Cain. 06:55 But later on, Lamech has a son, 06:58 Lamech is going to kill someone, I'm sorry, 06:59 he's going to kill someone and he say, 07:01 "Well, if Cain was avenger would have been... 07:03 Who killed Cain seven fold, 07:04 who ever kill Lamech will be seventy seven fold. 07:07 So there is aggression, 07:09 arise of the fall of moral base, 07:13 but there's always has been that situation. 07:15 It just says we continue go on, it has developed more, 07:18 and the devil knows his time is short, 07:20 and he's just going to go straight 07:21 for the maximum pushing to see how far people will go. 07:24 Yeah, I mean, and that's a good point 07:26 because, you know, look at Sodom and Gomorrah, 07:29 I mean, different places in the Bible. 07:30 And these places were pretty bad, 07:32 you know, so I think there always 07:34 it's every generation has that point 07:37 where it just becomes just so overt, 07:39 you know, the state always pushing the agenda. 07:42 It's always someone who's going to be there 07:44 trying to bring it back to where it supposed to be, 07:45 but Satan always comes back, he says, "No. 07:47 Let's take it away from God's hands." 07:49 And then the people who try to bring it back 07:51 to conservative look at as fanatic, 07:53 you know, and uses that as well, you know. 07:56 I was going to ask a question. 07:58 How does seeing all these sexual images, 08:01 like he says, proliferated in movies, 08:05 network TV, magazines, everything, music, 08:08 how does it affect us? 08:10 What is the desired effect that the enemy is going for? 08:14 Okay, so let's talk about that then. 08:15 Let's talk, he's brought the movies thing, 08:16 and the TV thing, so let's talk about it. 08:18 I mean, we're trying to be as practical 08:20 as we can on this show, on this program, 08:23 so we want to really tackle and answer the question, 08:26 what is okay to watch on TV, 08:29 and what is okay to watch in the movies? 08:31 Should I watch the R rated movie? 08:33 Should I just keep to PG13, because they have 08:35 you know this amount of clothes on, so it's okay? 08:37 Should I say I shouldn't watch this TV show? 08:40 Should I close my eyes here in the commercials? 08:42 What, you know... 08:44 You know, one of the interesting things 08:46 and I was gonna say this a little bit earlier 08:48 one of the interesting things about hip-hop specifically 08:50 is that what you get now more and more of is music videos 08:54 more than anything else, you know, 08:55 we were growing up listening to, 08:57 you know, hip-hop, rap whatever it meant, 08:59 you know, listen to the radio. 09:00 And there wasn't many images to put 09:02 to what you were hearing, you know, 09:04 but nowadays, like he was saying, 09:06 now we have to contend with the fact that 09:08 these messages are now being 09:09 brought to life on the big screen. 09:11 You know, not only do we have the music 09:12 that's calling women out their names, 09:14 presented them as animals to be had 09:17 but it's also showing guys 09:18 actually in the act of having them, 09:20 you know what I'm saying? 09:21 Showing, children seems that they should have 09:23 no business seeing such as a music video shot 09:26 in strip clubs, shot in clubs, 09:28 you know, and shot in all kind of places 09:30 that you don't want a 12 year old to know 09:32 what a strip club looks like on the inside 09:34 but that's what is shown in music videos. 09:37 I mean just the imagery, you know. 09:40 And the thing is, it would be one thing to say, 09:42 "Let's try to block out the music," 09:45 but now you got to block out the music and the imagery. 09:47 Yeah, and so now they're trying to emulate these things 09:49 that they're seeing, 09:50 and this becomes cool, you know. 09:52 It's invasive. Yeah, it really is. 09:54 But still, you all trying to get away from me. 09:57 What are some things we should or should not watch? 09:59 I mean, what should be the basis, 10:00 what should be, you know... 10:02 You know, what I think is interesting is that, 10:04 you know, a lot of times, we try to prettify, 10:10 make nice things that are comfortable for us. 10:13 So I'm not going to go to the movies 10:16 and watch a movie where somebody is, 10:19 you know, having sex openly with somebody else 10:22 but I'm going to get it from Redbox, 10:23 and bring it, and watch it in my house 10:25 so that I can watch it and I'll fast forward 10:29 through the other scenes, you know, and lot of times, 10:32 we're just not keeping it real with ourselves about 10:35 what we can handle and what we can't handle. 10:37 You know, if I am, you know, 10:39 in the middle of a breakup, women do it all the time. 10:41 You're in the middle of a break, 10:43 you're in the middle of a relationship situation, 10:44 so you go and watch the saddest, 10:46 most emotional movies you could think of, 10:49 and you're crying and it feeds into 10:52 how you're already feeling 10:53 as opposed to making you feel better. 10:56 And so I think sometimes, we use movies and television 11:00 to maybe feed into either things we want to do 11:03 but can't do or, you know, we feed into 11:07 maybe our own kind of emotions 11:10 and you know, self gratification. 11:11 So are we sayings then that we shouldn't watch anything 11:14 that has someone having sex on screen? 11:17 I have a confession. 11:18 I struggle a lot, I like to eat candy, 11:21 and my problem is when I eat one piece of candy, 11:22 it's hard to put that candy away, 11:25 and so I eat more candy, and I eat more candy 11:27 till the whole case is over. 11:28 Well, I was just going to eat maybe piece or two, 11:30 the whole box is gone. 11:32 In my situation, if I find myself watching television 11:34 that has those kind of implications, 11:37 I'm going to find myself watching that 11:39 and then adding a little bit more, 11:40 and watching a little bit more 11:41 and maybe even being to another case 11:44 that if no one sees me watching this, 11:46 then I'm going to definitely watch this 11:47 and then something more. 11:48 And so, I guess the danger in that 11:51 is if you watch those kind of shows, 11:53 it's going to automatically prod you to do even more. 11:56 And so, if I'm going to speak, I will speak in a principle. 12:00 Whatever you find yourself watching, 12:02 the devil's going to try to find a way 12:04 to make it even more and built more. 12:06 I'm gonna challenge with that, I'm gonna let Kean speak, 12:08 but someone is gonna say to you, 12:10 "Well, you know, I don't have that problem. 12:12 I can just watch it, you know, I don't get affected. 12:14 I can just watch it and it is good." 12:16 So I'm also going to go a little deeper 12:18 and say "Well, is it even right for us to look at something 12:21 that may be considered say, adultery in God's eyes?" 12:25 You're right. 12:27 It's a slippery slope, A, but we also have to ask 12:30 is how it's affecting us 12:32 and even if we don't think it's affecting us, 12:35 are we being honest with ourselves. 12:37 Can we look at something 12:38 and it not affect you on some level? 12:42 And I would suggest that watching sex on TV 12:46 whether it's adultery or it's between 12:49 husband and wife, 12:51 it's doing a couple of things 12:53 that I can think of right now is, 12:55 one is exciting you, and if you're not married, 12:58 what are you going to do 12:59 with those feelings that aroused. 13:02 The next thing is also desensitizing you 13:05 because we're not made to watch sex on TV. 13:10 So when you continue to do this, 13:14 it's actually perverting you. 13:16 So when you get into a marriage relationship, 13:19 you're going to have difficulties 13:21 because your sexual experiences 13:23 has not been with an actual person in the flesh, 13:29 so there's going to be some trouble there. 13:31 Okay, well, some would say it's just real life, 13:34 you know, that it's just real life. 13:36 It's just what happens in life and this is what we're just, 13:38 you know, video movies, it's all fake, 13:40 it's to make believe, it's just what... 13:42 we're just seeing, you know. 13:43 TV is not real life though. It's depicting real life. 13:46 Well, there is reality television now, too. 13:47 It is. Is it reality television real? 13:49 I think what reality television is, A, 13:54 I guess, it's made to portray real life. 13:57 It's real life in contained situations. 14:01 But here is a thing, media is a tool, 14:04 the TV and music are tools. 14:07 Now what you use to make with those tools are different like, 14:10 we all grew up singing the Bible songs. 14:12 I know the books of the Bible because of a song. 14:15 You know, I have learned 14:17 all kinds of Bible stories by watching, 14:20 you know, movies or watching TV, 14:22 so there are tools. 14:24 The question is, how are we using those tools? 14:27 It's a form of education. 14:29 And here is, there now where the responsibility 14:31 of parents and pastors, and the church comes in 14:34 is that, "Okay, we know that media is being used 14:38 as a tool to teach young people about sex, 14:41 about sexual relationships, about all kinds of things. 14:45 Now how are we combating that? 14:47 Are we giving them the proper information 14:49 that they're seeing adultery on TV? 14:52 Are we talking to them about adultery? 14:54 Are we sharing our experiences with adultery 14:58 and how it's affecting our families? 14:59 Are we letting TV and media 15:02 and music videos be the educator? 15:03 Right, and that's why, you know, 15:06 programs like this are so important, 15:08 you know, and we're not of course bashing TV 15:09 because of course you know we're on TV. 15:13 And this is really what it should be about, 15:17 you know, promoting things in this way, the positive way. 15:20 But I want to even go a little deeper 15:21 and really challenge it because, you know, 15:23 I'm stepping, about to stepping my own toes. 15:26 Step on, step on. Oh, yeah. 15:28 Better step in my own toes because there is a TV show 15:31 that is very popular and it kind of exciting, 15:37 or even promotes the idea that it's okay to have adultery 15:41 if it's maybe cool and you're really smart, 15:44 it's with the president and, you know, 15:46 no one knows about it, 15:47 and just the really adventurous type of show. 15:51 And so, you know, you get something 15:52 because of the story line, the story line is exciting. 15:54 You know, sometimes we can maybe put aside our morals 15:59 because of the show, because of the story. 16:03 Well, this actually it's kind of contextual 16:06 to what you were saying. 16:07 And I want to use the example of music 16:09 in order to get where I'm going. 16:10 When I was in high school, I started playing basketball, 16:12 I started listening to a lot of rap 16:14 because we used to get hype for the game, 16:15 you know, and I start listen to a lot of the certain artist, 16:19 and then I started eventually progressing, 16:20 I started to listen to the radio at night, 16:22 falling asleep to it. 16:23 And I notice a change in my behavior. 16:25 I would start to be really aggressive, 16:27 I started, you know, 16:29 curse words started slipping out. 16:30 And I'm like, you know, 16:31 "Where's the behavior coming from?" 16:33 And I realize the music, 16:34 you know, we can't fool ourselves. 16:36 The Bible is plain, as you were saying, 16:37 "By beholding, we become changed." 16:38 It's why we keep our eyes on Christ, 16:41 because we want to be changed into His image. 16:43 And at the end of the day, if we believe that sex 16:45 is something that God gave us in the context of marriage 16:48 and this is the way it should work 16:49 and then we go out and watch adultery, we watch. 16:52 And remind you, on television whenever sex is presented, 16:55 it's almost never presented in the context of marriage. 16:58 It's in the context of shacking up, 17:00 it's in the context of dating, 17:02 it's in the context of adultery, 17:03 and sometimes glorify, 17:05 you know, it's okay to cheat with this person 17:07 and even if they don't say it's okay. 17:09 It must be okay. Because that's your true love. 17:10 So it's okay. You're stuck in a bad marriage. 17:13 And so now young people are growing up 17:15 with this view of intimacy that has been highly tainted 17:19 where they believe that sex is something as acceptable 17:22 in other contexts other than marriage. 17:24 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 17:26 Oh, Kean, go ahead. 17:27 I just want to add to that 17:29 in reference to the show you mentioned 17:33 that the thing that complicates the situation 17:35 is that I haven't seen it but I've heard that the way 17:40 that it happens the affair, 17:42 you actually feel sorry for the man in the affair... 17:46 And the woman. And the woman, so... 17:52 You seen it a couple times? 17:53 Seen few clips. 17:56 You know, tell the truth, shame the devil. 17:59 So this is the thing that the devil 18:01 is kind of twisting the situation, 18:03 so you know whereas ten years ago, 18:06 you would say, 18:07 "They're having an affair, they're wrong." 18:10 Nowadays, it's like, "They're having affair 18:12 and, aw, well, I kind of understand like, 18:18 he's kind of you know... 18:19 Yeah, she's trapped. Yeah, he's trapped. 18:21 And the danger we face is that, you know, five years from now, 18:25 you're married. 18:26 Somebody makes advances at you, you know what I'm saying? 18:29 And it looks just like it looked in the movie, 18:31 and now, you, instead of being in a situation where normally, 18:35 had you been focused on the Word of God 18:36 and had been rooted, you'd have just dismissed it. 18:38 Or some Joseph, "No!" 18:41 But now, you're actually thinking about it like, 18:44 you know, "Well, is this okay? 18:46 Maybe if I just, you know, take it back a little." 18:49 You know what I'm saying. Like it did on TV. 18:51 And I'll just going to say, again, I'll be one that 18:53 want to say that I know what you're all saying is true 18:56 because I felt that before, you know, I felt that 18:58 where you start to, your morals begin to drain 19:02 because of the stuff you're watching. 19:03 And I begin to, you know, now we're at the age 19:05 and hopefully warn other people before they get to this point. 19:07 You can now see, "Okay, that was the reason 19:09 why this stuff happened in my life. 19:11 You know, the music you said, 19:13 you know, I used to be just like, 19:15 it's okay to watch or listening to certain music 19:17 but now I recognize, "Man, when I watch or listen 19:20 to certain things, that was my behavior 19:22 begin to go crazy and change." 19:25 We would lie to our self and say, 19:26 "Oh, we're just listening to the beat. 19:28 We don't listen to the words, we just listen to the beats." 19:30 But I mean, you know, 19:32 the thing is we all listen to the beat, 19:34 but unfortunately, with the beat comes words. 19:36 And I have a little sister 19:39 and I praise God that I have a little sister. 19:40 She's 17 years old. 19:42 And with her being 17 years of age, 19:45 when she was born, she calls me to be accountable 19:49 because I was already listening, 19:50 like you said, I mean, I know there's one album, they say it 19:53 the most controversial album of the year. 19:55 I was 15 years of age. 19:57 I couldn't go to one store to buy it 19:58 so I ask my mom to take me to another store 20:00 and they allow me to buy the tape. 20:01 So tape... 20:04 So, there you so, there you go. 20:08 But you know, when my little sister was born, 20:12 the Lord just put it to say, 20:13 "Would you want to show your little sister 20:15 to date somebody who listen to that stuff?" 20:17 Because it was straight changing me. 20:19 I mean, at one moment, I was starting to get 20:20 infatuated with even gang life. 20:22 And so, I mean, I just praise God 20:23 but when we find ourselves in those kind of situations, 20:26 it does start to dwindle away our moralities to a point 20:30 that we start to become empathetic 20:32 with these situations. 20:33 And we become empathetic, 20:34 it eventually makes you spiritually pathetic. 20:36 What I want to say is, in addition to it... 20:38 Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hallelujah. 20:41 But in addition to empathy, 20:43 I think it also translates into identity 20:46 because we now start to identify ourselves, 20:49 you know, I'm thinking about, 20:50 I have a lot of nieces and nephews, 20:52 I love all my nieces and nephews, 20:54 but they range in age and the oldest is like 21, 20:59 and the youngest is like three. 21:02 And so they're listening to lots of secular music 21:05 and so it's home, and you know, 21:07 I saw they were putting on a song, 21:09 and the older kids were singing it, 21:11 and the three year old knew all the words. 21:16 And so you know, we say, 21:17 "Well, I'm an adult enough to reason 21:21 and think through these lyrics," 21:23 but what we don't realize is that 21:24 because music does what music does, 21:27 it infiltrates our minds in ways 21:29 that we can't even understand. 21:32 And so then what was interesting was for Christmas, 21:34 she got little pink wig, and some pink heels, 21:38 and some pink nails, you know, 21:40 we can identify who that looks like. 21:42 And so they were calling her, 21:44 you know, a little tiny version of this popular rapper. 21:48 And she's ascribing herself at three, 21:51 identifying her womanness and femininity with somebody 21:57 who's portrayed in this way, and that's concerning. 22:00 Yeah, very concerning. 22:02 Let's talk, where are the songs that used to talk about 22:05 the books in the Bible 22:07 or you've memorized certain stories and stuff, 22:09 you know, all that stuff is gone now. 22:11 Or even marriage, you know, when I was younger, 22:14 there was R&B song was saying, "Girl, let's just get married." 22:17 Get married, right, right, right. 22:18 But now, it's like porn. 22:20 Even back then, how many songs talked about marriage? 22:22 But at least, there were some. Maybe one. 22:23 But at least, there were some. 22:25 I mean, you get the rare one, but that's a good point. 22:28 It's like, why is it that R&B industry 22:34 doesn't promote happy marriage? 22:36 Why is it always, "Girl, I want to get you in bed." 22:40 They do but it does itself. 22:43 If you notice, but there are songs out there 22:47 that promote marriage, 22:49 you know, that promote godly love, 22:51 and principles of godly love, but the problem 22:54 is those are the songs that aren't making money. 22:56 Those are the songs that aren't, 22:58 you know, making the top ten, top hundred. 23:00 Well, maybe the people who actually producing, 23:02 writing and producing these things, 23:03 maybe they have an agenda. 23:07 And maybe they don't want to see more healthy family, 23:11 maybe the devil is behind a lot of this. 23:13 Good one, yeah. 23:14 Well, you know, I didn't really say I was going to say earlier, 23:16 but it's all about identity, 23:18 you know, we talked about it before. 23:20 It's about Satan trying to destroy the image of God. 23:22 It's who do you identify with, 23:24 as you say with your little cousin identify 23:26 with a certain star, I guess. 23:29 When we talked about it with Joseph, 23:31 Joseph identified with God. 23:33 He said, "How can I do this but how can I sin against God?" 23:37 He was God's man. He was a slave. 23:39 You know, maybe it was slaves, 23:40 that would just happen because he's a slave, 23:43 he could have said, you know, 23:44 maybe the culture would allow for me 23:46 in the context of the slavery to perform my slave duties 23:50 but how could I sin against God? 23:52 He didn't identify with his culture, 23:54 the culture or the slavery, he identifies with God instead. 23:57 So he was in that culture, but still understood 24:01 he had a culture of God that he still had to cultivate. 24:04 Yes. And part of first. 24:06 You know, I read some history. 24:10 Those who were underneath leadership in those days, 24:12 some of them became eunuch. 24:13 So it very well could have happened that Potiphar, 24:16 it suggests that Potiphar may have been a eunuch. 24:18 So you're right, you know, it could have been culturally 24:20 that Potiphar's wife may have been around other people, 24:23 and she saw Joseph and the Bible says that 24:25 he looked good, and so she... 24:27 Joseph is fine. Yeah. 24:31 So she came up, she came up to him 24:34 and he did what you also say, you know, he said, 24:37 "How can I sin against God?" 24:39 And when we look in the aspect of Psalms 139 24:42 that God is everywhere and we have to understand 24:45 that God sees every single thing we do. 24:48 It's not that just because we may not see God, 24:50 but God does see us. 24:52 And so if we put that in our minds and perspectives, 24:55 it will causes to keep ourselves 24:56 from very dangerous situations 24:57 that can affect us on a long call. 24:59 Okay, and you want to say something? 25:00 Yeah, I was going to say, you know, the Bible says, 25:02 "Let everything that have breath praise the Lord." 25:04 It talks about praise Him with tumbrel, 25:06 it talks about instruments, praising God with instruments. 25:09 It talks about, you know, David dancing 25:10 as a part of praise but it's a part of praise. 25:14 We were created to praise and worship God. 25:18 So if whatever I'm doing 25:20 is not an act of worship or praise, 25:22 I then need to question, you know, 25:25 if even what music I'm listening to, 25:29 how I'm dancing or, you know, that, 25:31 is what I'm doing, giving honor and praise to God 25:36 or am I trying to attract honor and praise to myself? 25:41 As I'm listening to this, this is convicting, you know, 25:45 and it's making me think I have to go even further, 25:47 you know, to really protect myself. 25:49 And it's not just say, "Hey, I'm a pastor 25:51 and I have arrived." 25:52 You know, but really continually going higher 25:54 to say, "Hey, we have to protect ourselves 25:56 even more against this thing," because as you're all talking, 25:58 this thing is serious. 25:59 You know, but I want to kind of just... 26:01 We have a few more minutes, 26:02 I want to also ask this question, 26:03 I didn't want to let this one go 26:05 about the word sexy. 26:07 Okay, that's kind of a common word we use now, 26:10 we've even used it on here. 26:13 But is that word bad and what does it really mean 26:17 when someone says, "I'm dressing sexy?" 26:18 You know, it's kind of word we use there. 26:20 Well, I don't think we have enough time for that. 26:21 Yeah, we don't have much time too. 26:24 I mean, in this culture, man, sexy has just become 26:26 one of those words 26:28 that just mean something good, you know. 26:30 My jump shot is pretty sexy, you know what I'm saying? 26:33 Because it just looks nice, you know what I'm saying. 26:36 So sexy is nice. So using sexy in... 26:41 Well, I mean, that's just the way it has become, 26:42 you know, just like saying, I know, where I'm from, 26:44 people say, you know, "That's beast." 26:46 You know, they're not talking about the end of relation, 26:47 they're saying that, you know, 26:49 that is just as easy it's gong to get. 26:51 You know what I'm saying. 26:52 So I don't know, if we got to take into consideration, 26:55 you know, the culture as well when we use the word. 26:58 But I also think that, as a woman, as a young woman, 27:02 when we're presenting these images, 27:03 we've used sexiness as how men should identify us. 27:08 And so we don't fit into the mode 27:09 of what we ascribe sexy to. 27:11 Sexy is something good, and beautiful, and sleek. 27:14 Whether we say that or not, that's the connotation. 27:16 And should be covered up. 27:18 And so that's how we attribute it. 27:20 And so if you have people walking around, 27:22 "That's sexy, that's sexy," and I don't look sexy, 27:24 then it's hard to wrestle that with our identity. 27:27 All right, well, we have no time to finish it out, 27:29 but I just want to end with this 27:30 quote from Revelation 2:20. 27:31 It says, "Nevertheless, I have this against you. 27:34 You tolerate that woman Jezebel who calls herself a prophetess 27:38 but her teaching, she misleads 27:41 my servant into sexual immorality." 27:43 So we got to be careful what we tolerate 27:45 as Christians, okay? 27:47 We got to be careful what we watch 27:48 and what we listen to. 27:49 So that's our program, I hope you enjoy it. 27:51 And remember to make pure choices. |
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