Participants: Wayne Blakely (Host), Mike Carducci, Ron Woolsey
Series Code: PC
Program Code: PC000047
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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:05 may be too candid for younger children. 00:40 Hello. Welcome to Pure Choices. 00:42 My name is Wayne Blakely of Coming Out Ministries, 00:45 joined by my colleagues, Ron Woolsey and Mike Carducci. 00:49 Thank you for joining us today. 00:51 I would to mention a little bit about our silence here 00:55 and throughout the Christian culture 00:57 about homosexuality. 00:59 It's been present for many years 01:02 rather deafening. 01:04 Many have left our church culture 01:07 and our churches 01:09 due to the silence about homosexuality, 01:12 some to embrace the gay culture 01:15 and some have actually ended up going and committing suicide. 01:19 Today, as redeemed individuals that have returned to Christ 01:25 and accepting him into our lives, 01:28 we want to speak out about our personal testimonies in Jesus 01:31 and that's what Coming Out Ministries does today. 01:35 Guys, you know, I wanted to collectively thank 01:40 Dare to Dream for allowing us to come on, 01:43 it's been a privilege to come on 01:45 and share these various topics that we have spoken about here. 01:50 I want to thank Pure Choices for being bold in the Gospel 01:54 and recognizing that there are many people 01:57 with all kinds of temptations. 02:01 We're so fortunate 02:03 that they want to speak out in the Gospel of Jesus Christ 02:07 with the boldness that goes deep within that 02:10 than what you might hear just sitting in a church pew. 02:13 It's been incredible to have Pure Choices 02:17 and to be on this program. 02:18 These are some programs 02:21 that we never would have the opportunity 02:23 to do ever before. 02:24 This has been huge. 02:26 That's right. 02:28 You know, Ron, as I think about our presence here, 02:33 we've covered a lot of territory 02:34 and but what sticks out in my mind is that, 02:37 you know, Mike and I have been most recently 02:42 once who have been able to comeback and be witnesses 02:45 for what the power of Christ has done in our lives. 02:48 Yeah, you have been with the ministry. 02:53 In fact, we call you Moses in our ministry 02:57 because you have had a tenure of speaking out 03:01 on this issue by yourself. 03:03 Can you tell me what that's been like? 03:06 Well, I was converted 21 years ago. 03:08 The very night I was baptized, 03:10 I was asked to preach the next Sabbath, 03:13 and I was launched in the ministry immediately. 03:16 And but for the first few years, 03:19 I never talked openly about the specifics of my conversion. 03:23 I would just talk about 03:25 a life of self destruction and degradation. 03:27 I was very timid about my past. 03:30 It was nine years later, nine years in the ministry 03:34 that I was asked to publish my book, 03:36 to tell my story and the Lord was prodding me, 03:39 get out there and do something, 03:42 and that was kind of a shelter 03:44 because I could write it and still be anonymous. 03:47 Then, I was asked to be on radio talk shows 03:49 for three years, 03:51 but that was still kind of anonymous. 03:52 I was behind a microphone or on a telephone. 03:56 And then, Shawn Boonstra came to me and asked 03:58 if I was ready for television. 03:59 And I remember saying... 04:01 He read my book and I remember saying, 04:03 "Well, I've been praying about that for the right time 04:06 and the right person to do that with," 04:08 and to his credit, he said, 04:11 "Well, now is the time, and I'm the man." 04:13 And in just a few weeks, then I was on television, 04:15 I was pushed. 04:17 The Lord pushed me into talking openly about this 04:20 because He knew I was a timid warrior. 04:23 I was a bold warrior about the Gospel 04:26 and zealous with a gospel 04:27 but I was timid about the details of my conversion. 04:31 So I've been openly working in this area 04:33 for the last 15 years or so. 04:37 Yes. 04:38 Well, praise God, Ron, you are not alone any more. 04:43 Amen, and I praise the Lord for that too 04:45 because it's kind of lonely out there 04:47 by myself and wondering, 04:49 "Is there anyone else out there that has this story, 04:52 this testimony to, you know, there is strength in numbers. 04:54 Yes. 04:56 And I praise the Lord for bringing us together. 04:58 Yeah, it's been a huge blessing. 04:59 You know, when I was first converted 05:01 and had this lightening bold experience 05:04 with God about, 05:05 what the clarity was? 05:07 What the healing was that he was asking for 05:09 and presenting to me? 05:11 I wanted to go and shout it to the mountain top, 05:13 so the roof tops of all the churches 05:15 that are out there. 05:18 And so... 05:19 but God ended up bringing me in touch with you guys 05:22 which has been such a blessing. 05:24 We've had our individual ministries, 05:25 but we're happy to be under in umbrella 05:28 of Coming Out Ministries. 05:30 Mike, can you share with the viewers 05:33 or maybe potential pastors and teachers 05:36 that might be watching 05:37 or even congregational members 05:40 regardless of what Church they belong to, 05:42 what some of the goals of Coming Out Ministries are? 05:46 Well, I think our goal is... 05:47 What's been incredible is, 05:48 as the Lord has united us 05:50 in this ministry of Coming Out ministries, 05:52 what it's done is each person in the group has strengths 05:56 that the other one doesn't have. 05:58 And Wayne has a passion for wanting to reach out 06:01 to educate the clergy to the Church. 06:04 And Ron who's been implemental 06:06 and opening up many of those doors 06:08 through a tender testimony if you would, 06:11 one that I believe the people in the Church 06:14 would not be offended by 06:16 where as my passion is actually for the youth. 06:18 I know that for me, 06:19 I was a young person in Church school 06:23 when I had my first sexual fall. 06:25 And I believe that if we can educate the youth to know 06:28 about the dangers that are out there 06:31 and the importance of sexual purity 06:33 and the blessing in the beauty of that. 06:35 So each one of our ministries hits on a different area 06:39 that makes us collectively, 06:41 I think, an incredible power source 06:43 that God has brought together. 06:45 And in the future, the very near future, 06:47 we want to be able to not only open up the doors of churches, 06:51 but we also speak at pastors' meetings, 06:52 we speak at academies. 06:54 We just had an opportunity to speak 06:56 at an elementary school. 06:58 We've gone to Africa. 06:59 We're looking forward to, you know, 07:01 this being a much bigger international ministry as well. 07:04 As God has opened up those doors, 07:06 we've been blown away by some of the opportunities. 07:07 Right. 07:09 Yeah, and we're going to talk 07:10 about some of those things today. 07:12 You know, one of our challenges has been 07:15 about the invitation to some churches 07:21 and more so universities where there are younger people. 07:25 And the fear that has been expressed to us that, 07:29 in coming to share our testimony there, 07:31 that somehow we would make the gay individual feel 07:35 that they were unwelcome. 07:37 Do you think that that's, maybe, a bit of myth 07:40 from the standpoint of leadership 07:42 who might be looking at us 07:44 to make that kind of invitation? 07:47 That the gay people would feel unwelcome? 07:50 Right, at the universities or churches where we might go. 07:54 Well, as I have spoken at universities internationally 07:58 as well as in our country 08:01 where I have found that timidity, 08:02 Wayne, is in the faculty and the staff. 08:06 They were so reluctant 08:08 because of political correctness 08:10 and efforts on campus 08:13 that are promoting the gay initiatives 08:17 and so forth. 08:19 And they were afraid that 08:20 my being there would be controversial. 08:22 And so I would encourage them 08:25 while let the enemy make all of these inroads 08:28 while we standby silent. 08:31 And as I have spoken to the students, 08:32 the reaction has been tremendous 08:34 because I would go in and the chapel would be filled, 08:38 standing room only, and I would just ask, 08:40 "How many of you know someone who is gay?" 08:43 And every hand would go up 08:45 and the students would react so positively 08:48 and praising the Lord for the messages, 08:50 you know, that like us have to bring and then, 08:53 it's afterwards 08:54 that the faculty and staff come and say, 08:56 "Well, you know, we didn't quite know what to expect, 08:59 but we're really glad you came, but the students are ready." 09:02 Right. 09:03 You know, I found that interesting 09:05 that there are elements out there today, 09:08 organizations that will go on to campuses 09:10 and be rather forceful with their agenda 09:13 about pushing forward gay rights and making sure 09:17 that everyone's aware of them 09:18 and it's going to participate in them 09:20 and agree with them 09:21 where as when I've talk to university presidents, 09:25 I tried to share with them that, when we come in, 09:28 God is not a God of force 09:30 and so we don't come in with a sledge hammer, 09:33 we come in with our personal testimony, 09:36 and we share strictly what God has done in our lives. 09:39 And so anyone attending a chapel 09:41 or attending our seminars 09:43 would be able to witness the power of the Holy Spirit, 09:46 and what the Holy Spirit has done in our lives. 09:49 And so, they can... 09:50 and I think an opportunity here 09:52 is for the individual to either agree with that 09:55 or want to turn their lives over to Jesus Christ 09:59 in that situation or to get up and walk away 10:02 and say, "Hey, that's not for me." 10:04 And so, it's not that I want to make someone feel 10:07 unwelcome at all, 10:08 but if they feel that they are receiving an indication 10:12 that they might not be living their life 10:15 in the way that God would want them to, 10:17 that this is a perfect opportunity for them 10:19 to be able to come and talk to us individually. 10:21 Wayne, now I would just like to interject here 10:23 that this is the beauty of the Gospel. 10:26 The Gospel is not invasive, it's not forceful, 10:30 it's not coercion and this is what we're doing, 10:34 we're trying to present the Gospel 10:36 that even the gay community can respond to the Gospel 10:40 and it's purity and simplicity. 10:42 It's a message of love. 10:44 And so, if our audience, you know, and potential hosts, 10:51 we just realize that we're not about like you say, 10:54 force and aggression and strong arming. 10:57 It's just the love of God. Right. 10:59 You know, I think 11:00 that some people have actually witnessed. 11:02 They're some so thankful that God has let us to places 11:05 where they have picked up on the fact 11:08 that this is not a forceful message. 11:10 Mike, you and I, I have shared recently 11:13 some of the successes of Coming Out Ministries. 11:16 Can I have you elaborate, 11:18 maybe, I mean, immediately thinking of some place 11:21 that where we went in Saint Helena 11:23 near a university and what... 11:25 how God began to open some of the doors there. 11:28 It was incredible. 11:29 But first of all, I'd like to go back to the women 11:31 that was our contact in Saint Helena. 11:34 And she... the first conversation 11:36 I had with her on the phone she said, 11:37 "Well, you can come but I'm not coming, 11:40 and I don't want anything to do with this ministry." 11:42 And I was a little put back, 11:44 especially being the church secretary 11:46 whose job was to organize this presentation. 11:49 So I just told her my story, 11:52 and I told her what we were about, 11:53 and she soften a little and she goes, 11:55 "Well, you can come, but I'm not coming." 11:57 And I go, "Okay," you know, so we prayed on the phone, 11:59 and she was tired of people 12:02 coming up to her and telling her, 12:04 you know, the reason why, 12:05 you know, gays were gay or whatever. 12:07 So anyway the next time I talked with her, 12:09 she started to soften 12:11 and eventually she became 12:12 one of our biggest promoters and supporters. 12:15 So when we got there to Saint Helena, 12:17 we ended up going to the local schools. 12:21 As a matter fact, the one elementary school, 12:22 the seventh and eighth graders had agreed to let us come in. 12:26 And many of the other doors had shut 12:28 because people were too afraid of this topic. 12:30 And as we were talking, Ron, you were there with us... 12:33 As we were talking to the teacher, 12:35 all of a sudden just as he heard us talking about, 12:38 what we wanted to accomplish in our presentations, 12:40 why we were there, and what we come from, 12:42 his heart opened up, 12:44 and he came to absolutely every presentation 12:46 that would had any easing, as well as he was very open... 12:49 Didn't he bring some of the students also? 12:50 Yes, that's right. He did. 12:52 And so we started to see this opening 12:55 if you would of people realizing 12:57 that this wasn't a message that they had to fear, 13:00 it wasn't going to slime their children. 13:02 And if anything, it was offering hope, 13:06 practical tools and redemption to those 13:08 who are struggling sexually. 13:09 Now, I remember, we spent the whole week there, 13:12 and we went to the university which was nearby, 13:14 and we wanted to distribute some of our brochures 13:17 that had our individual ministries on them. 13:21 And as we were going about doing that, 13:24 we thought about going 13:25 and speaking to the university president 13:27 and someone said to us, 13:28 "Oh, no, no, she's traveling this week, 13:30 she's not even here." 13:31 And I remember that we stopped and I said, "Well, you know, 13:34 maybe, that's the case, 13:35 but let's just pray about this." 13:37 And the lady that you mentioned 13:39 that was representing us at the church there, 13:42 came in and we joined the hands together 13:44 and we prayed, 13:45 and we went to the university president's office 13:48 and lo and behold, yes, she was there, 13:49 she was in the teleconference at the time 13:51 and that we were there, 13:53 but her secretary took note of 13:55 what this ministry was and said, 13:56 "Oh, I want you to be able to talk to her," 13:59 and so we went outside 14:01 and we kept praying some more and asked, 14:03 when she came outside the door 14:05 and stood and looked at us like, 14:06 "What are you doing here? 14:08 You're not on my appointment schedule." 14:10 And the secretary said, "Well, they would like to have, 14:12 you know, 10 minutes of your time." 14:14 And what that turned into was us going into her office, 14:17 and sitting and talking to her for 35 minutes. 14:20 And at the end of that, 14:21 she called that a divine appointment. 14:23 Amen. Yeah. So. 14:25 And we prayed at every stop, 14:27 every door that had shut on our face, 14:29 we were standing outside of it praying 14:30 and God opened up those doors again 14:32 because we acknowledged the fact 14:34 that they closed and only God could open those doors. 14:37 That's right. 14:38 So what else is coming out 14:41 or let's take a look actually some other things 14:44 that have happened here. 14:45 Yeah, Ron, talk about Africa. 14:47 I'm Wayne, by the way. 14:48 I'm sorry. That's right. 14:50 It's like we do this all the time. 14:52 We're always calling each other... 14:54 We get some familiar with each other 14:56 where we're always forgetting who is who. 14:57 Well, interchangeable. That's right. 15:00 We had this amazing incredible opportunity 15:02 that came up for Africa. 15:04 And you know, I was kind of blown away by that 15:06 because in Africa, you know, 15:08 our church elders and leadership have told me 15:12 when I've come in contact with them, 15:14 "In Africa, they don't talk about this in Africa." 15:16 And I said, "Wow, how would that be different 15:18 than it is here in the United States." 15:21 Although, those opportunities are opening up more and more. 15:25 And with the political atmosphere 15:27 like it is in Africa right now, 15:29 we were feeling a little bit under pressure before going, 15:33 but you know, what did that look like? 15:35 What did that turn into, Mike, you and I went, so...? 15:38 It was probably the single most incredible event 15:41 I've ever experienced. 15:43 You know, a little church way out in the wilderness, 15:46 in a sugarcane field in Kenya. 15:48 The pastor had a dream, 15:50 and he was told to know God's love. 15:52 He said, "I want you to know my love." 15:53 And through a search on the internet, 15:55 he found Wayne's website, and he called Wayne, 15:57 and he said, "Wayne, mighty man of God, 15:59 I want you to come to my church and share your message." 16:02 And Wayne, your response was, 16:04 "Do you know what this ministry is about?" 16:06 Right. And he had searched your website. 16:09 He said, "Yes, we need you to come," 16:10 and you started putting the pressure on me 16:12 that I needed to go with you. 16:14 And I said, "Nope, I don't need to go." 16:16 And through divine intervention, 16:17 again I said, "Lord, you've got to make it plain, 16:20 otherwise, I'm not going." 16:22 And the Lord just made it very plain, 16:24 within just three hours of my prayer. 16:27 And off we were to Africa. 16:28 And when we got there, 16:30 remember when we pulled up, Wayne, 16:31 dirt roads all the way up to the sugarcane field. 16:34 And as we pull up to this makeshift church, 16:36 it didn't even have a proper roof 16:37 and didn't even have walls in it, 16:39 it had just logs for benches. 16:40 And the children were singing. 16:42 The children were singing, all the quire was out in front, 16:44 and the people were waiting for us in the hot burning sun. 16:47 And before we get even open the door, 16:49 they were opening the doors and pulling us out 16:51 and hugging us and receiving us. 16:53 And I'll tell you, they really taught us a lot about, 16:58 you know, humility as well as, 17:00 you know, how to take care of people. 17:01 Hospitality was just blown away. 17:04 And that's the way they treated us until we left, 17:06 and we had powerful opportunities 17:08 and presentations to give. 17:10 Yeah, I think we came back with our lives changed. 17:12 Yeah. 17:14 Because of this, you know, in every step of the way, 17:16 I had prayed because I wasn't real sure, 17:20 but with the answer to every prayer... 17:21 Yeah. It was just crazy. 17:23 I mean, we didn't have the funding 17:24 and it was amazing how God opened that door, 17:28 you know, the funding came through, 17:29 we were able to take a videographer with us 17:32 so that we're able to capture what transpired on this trip. 17:36 And so that it was just 17:37 an inspiring awesome experience. 17:40 Also important for people to remember 17:42 when you have spiritual highs, 17:43 you can sometimes return home 17:46 and experience kind of a plateau 17:49 and that bothered both of us, 17:50 but through our communication on the phone, 17:52 we prayed through it, 17:54 we got our connection back with God 17:55 and know that he has other great things 17:58 planned for us too. 17:59 Ron, you recently had an adventure 18:03 where it took you to Rio de Janeiro. 18:06 Is that right? 18:07 Yes. 18:09 My book had been translated into Portuguese last year 18:12 for the country of Brazil. 18:14 And the publisher brought my wife 18:18 and myself down there for three weeks 18:21 on a speaking tour. 18:23 He had us booked every single day 18:26 for three weeks, 18:28 sometimes five and six presentations in one day. 18:32 Wow. 18:33 It was an amazing experience because it was Rio de Janeiro 18:37 and Sao Paulo, Campinas and around in that area. 18:42 But what was so striking to my wife and myself 18:45 was that homosexuality was so open and so prevalent. 18:50 And they told us that it's everywhere, in fact, 18:52 as we were presenting at the university, 18:55 the huge university there, 18:59 one of the professors in the theology department 19:02 was having lunch with us one day, 19:04 and he said, "You know, pastor Ron, 19:06 in all of my classes," now, these are theology classes. 19:10 He said, "I have at least two or three 19:13 openly practicing homosexuals in every single class. 19:17 And they just like in so many places, 19:21 they don't know what to do about it, 19:22 they don't know how to deal with it." 19:24 And as we were able to share to see how they realized, 19:29 yes, this is something that can be overcome to. 19:32 They were praising the Lord that we do have resources 19:35 and within our own denomination 19:36 and this is what we're providing is... 19:38 Amen. 19:39 Seminars and resources 19:43 and presentations of all different types. 19:46 And it was just an incredible experience 19:48 because everyday someone would come to me privately 19:51 and we would spend a long time counseling 19:53 because they were either gay or coming out of it, 19:56 going into it, or had been out of it 19:59 and ministering too. 20:01 We have brothers and sisters like ourselves 20:03 already ministering in Brazil 20:05 that have come out and walking victorious 20:07 in the Lord. 20:08 And we need to connect with these people... 20:09 Yes. And enlarge our borders. 20:11 Amen. 20:12 You know, as I experienced redemption from homosexuality, 20:16 I began to speak with church leadership 20:19 and members from our denominational conference. 20:24 And you know, 20:25 there was little bit of skepticism out first, 20:28 and I began to talk to my parents about this, 20:31 they kind of wanted to know, why was this rising up divided, 20:34 I have this passion to go out and speak about this. 20:37 And the fact of the matter is this that the silence 20:40 I just felt couldn't be left that way any more, 20:43 and I said, you know, 20:44 when I lived in the gay culture, 20:47 I had the impression in my heart 20:49 still that God was trying to tell me something 20:52 about this not being right 20:53 and I couldn't see myself as a gay activist. 20:56 And so when God convicted my heart 20:59 and won me back to Him, 21:01 I said, you know, "I will live for you whatever cost, 21:04 I will be an activist for Jesus Christ 21:06 'cause there is no shame in that. 21:08 And God will protect me, 21:10 until he sees that He's finished with me." 21:13 Redeemed activist. That's right. 21:15 A redeemed activist. 21:18 So, you know, 21:20 if God's impressing you to make this invitation, 21:24 you know, I invite you to get in touch with us. 21:27 You can reach us by going to our website 21:30 at comingoutministries.org. 21:33 And I'm wondering if you guys have some other things 21:36 that you would like to share about this ministry 21:38 that might be on your hearts. 21:40 One thing that actually blew me away about Africa, 21:43 and I failed to mention it before was, 21:46 all of a sudden, it was the first day we were there, 21:47 we've been ministering all the day at the church. 21:49 And someone asked us 21:51 just speak to eight to ten young girls 21:53 about sexual purity. 21:54 We were so jet lagged, I was so exhausted. 21:57 I couldn't understand the translator, 21:58 but he kept saying that thing about... 22:00 Just saying no to FGM. Yes, FGM. 22:03 And I thought it was female genital manipulation, 22:06 but he was saying, female genital mutilation. 22:08 Right. 22:09 And here, God opened up this opportunity, 22:11 when I got there, 22:12 wasn't 8 to 10 girls, it was 400... 22:15 Amazing. 22:16 Young girls between 5 and 18 years old, 22:18 then I was in shock 22:19 'cause we didn't bring the projector 22:21 I just had, you know, my hand held in. 22:23 And I said, "Lord, what am I going to do?" 22:24 And it's like this anointing 22:25 just came and He said, "Mike, you were raised 22:28 by a single mother and three sisters, 22:29 you know how to talk to women. 22:31 Just tell them how much I love them." 22:34 And so I just poured out to them this love 22:36 that each one of them God loved 22:38 and that was so incredible 22:40 the way that I don't even have to be prepared, 22:42 the Bible talks about how, 22:44 don't worry about what you're going to say, 22:45 that the Holy Spirit will give you adherence, 22:47 and He truly did and that I know 22:50 we've all experienced 22:52 and that just keeps us knowing that 22:53 God is moving this ministry. 22:55 Yeah. 22:56 And He's got great things in store. 22:57 I'm amazed everyday as I go to check my email. 23:00 I never know what God has planned, 23:02 but it's amazing the emails 23:04 that are coming and included in that are the invitations 23:08 that come to us and so if you're contemplating this, 23:11 you know, I just suggest you that you not fear 23:15 but you pray and ask for God's guidance 23:17 because He wants you to stand up for Him, 23:21 and to let the Holy Spirit use you 23:24 to bring the reality of the redemption 23:26 that's available for everyone. 23:30 You know, Wayne, you're asking us 23:31 about our availability and more about Coming Out Ministries, 23:35 what we have to offer. 23:36 And I would just like to say to our viewing audience 23:40 that we're available in any combination. 23:43 We go places individually. 23:46 Wayne is from Washington, Mike is from Tennessee, 23:50 I'm from the heart of the country, 23:51 Arkansas, 23:52 and we go in pairs or all three of us individually 23:56 to do seminars, sermons, testimonials, 24:02 all kinds of presentations in schools, 24:04 in churches and other institutions 24:06 and events like camp meetings and conventions and so forth. 24:09 The reason this is so important 24:12 that what we're trying to offer is, 24:14 this is now a global issue. 24:16 Homosexuality is a global issue, 24:17 and we read in Luke 17:28, 24:21 "Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot," 24:23 coupled with verse 30, 24:25 "Even thus shall it be in the day 24:26 when the son of man is revealed." 24:29 This is an in time issue, a global issue, 24:33 and we see everywhere we go, even Africa and places 24:38 where you wouldn't think it was an issue. 24:40 It's a major issue 24:42 and so we just want to appeal to the viewing audience 24:45 to have us come and do some of our ministry 24:49 in your venue. 24:50 That's right. 24:52 And something I'd like to add to that, Ron, 24:54 is that none of us-- 24:56 That's right. 24:58 And so it's only been at expenses for accommodations 25:01 and for travel and when we're there, there are people 25:03 that have lent us support 25:05 or they have taken a love offering 25:07 and God has blessed us in this 25:08 because we believe that 25:10 we don't want to let anything get in the way 25:13 of God providing this message to however poor or rich 25:17 and environment is that we're walking into. 25:21 Anything, Mike, that you'd like to say 25:23 about this ministry before this program closes today? 25:26 I had no idea, 25:28 the goodness of God to move us this far, this fast. 25:30 Amen. 25:31 It was just what, two years ago less. 25:33 And two years ago that we had met for the first time. 25:36 And you know, Ron, I was handed your book 25:39 and not long after I come back to the Lord, 25:41 and I really resonated with the early years 25:45 and identifying some of the characteristics 25:47 says to why, I went through what is did. 25:49 So we know that there needs to be more resources out there. 25:52 We're passionate about bringing to young people, 25:56 old people like. 25:57 We want to educate church communities 25:59 to be a safe atmosphere 26:01 for those that are sexually defiled, 26:02 not just the homosexual... 26:03 Amen. 26:05 But for those who are struggling 26:06 with pornography addiction, 26:08 sexual addiction of any kind 26:09 because we know that 26:10 God is wrapping up this work quickly. 26:12 We know that his latter rain is being poured out, 26:13 and we want to get that message out 26:15 so we can go home. 26:16 That's right. Amen. 26:18 That's what I, you know... Yeah. 26:19 That's why I think that we're so passionate about this. 26:20 Yeah, there is a lot of people 26:22 still with certain amount of blindness thinking... 26:25 I know when I came back into the church 26:28 where I'm today, it was thought that there would... 26:30 this message wouldn't effect anybody in this church, 26:33 and I mean, a church with 850 people. 26:36 And so, you know, how would you know 26:38 in this deaf silence what it's been? 26:42 And so I think it's an active faith to believe 26:45 that God is able to reach people 26:47 in your own congregation 26:49 and in your silence 26:50 what's happening in the political arena 26:54 or in the civil world is that we're seeing this issue, 26:59 you know, take the headlines 27:00 and so I don't think we can afford to be silent 27:03 about this in churches, in schools or anywhere, 27:07 you know, that a redeemed voice might be able to go. 27:13 I want to say too that, 27:14 you know, in our going around the globe 27:19 and going into all these places, 27:21 we solicit your prayers, we need them... 27:23 Yes. So very, very much. 27:25 We need the protection of the blood of Jesus Christ. 27:28 He's done so much for us, 27:30 and we can only be amazed 27:31 at what He's able to do for others. 27:34 So as we wrap up this program today, 27:37 I would just like to ask you to keep watching Pure Choices 27:40 and to keep making pure choices. 27:43 It's been my pleasure to be here 27:44 with Coming Out Ministries 27:46 and to be a part of Dare to Dream 27:48 and a part of Pure Choices. 27:50 Thank you. |
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