Participants: Joshua Nelson (Host), Dajanae Maxwell, David Anderson, James Brandon, Kyle Scarlett
Series Code: PC
Program Code: PC000057
00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:05 may be too candid for younger children. 00:40 Hello, and welcome again to another edition 00:43 of Pure Choices. 00:44 I'm your host, Pastor Joshua Nelson. 00:46 And we are just happy you decided to join us, 00:49 we have another good one for you. 00:50 We are talking about puppy love versus true love. 00:54 And before we get into introducing our panel 00:56 and discussing this topic, 00:58 let's just pause for a moment of prayer. 01:00 Dear, Heavenly Father, we thank You once again 01:03 for this opportunity to discuss these topics 01:05 and we ask God that You'll bless us 01:07 and guide this conversation, in Jesus' name we pray. 01:09 Amen. Amen. 01:11 Okay, to my left, I introduce here, 01:14 James Brandon 01:16 who is university chaplain in... 01:19 sorry, Tampa Florida, of course. 01:22 All right, and then over here across me 01:24 we have David Anderson 01:26 who is an Oakwood university theology student. 01:28 And then next to him, we have Dajanae Maxwell 01:30 who is also Oakwood University theology student 01:33 and next to her is also 01:35 an Oakwood University theology student, 01:37 Kyle Scarlett. 01:38 So we have some scholars here, some young people here, 01:41 and we're just gonna talk about this topic of love. 01:45 And we've gotta talk about this a little bit 01:47 on Pure Choices talking about love. 01:49 But we want to get more of a younger feel, 01:52 younger idea of what may be 01:55 this generation is talking about love 01:56 and what they feel it means, so let's just get out there. 02:00 David, what is love? What is love? 02:03 Well, I have a quote that is my favorite quote 02:07 from Ellen White, 02:09 in the book Adventist Home chapter 7 02:11 and she says, "True love is a high and holy principle, 02:15 altogether different in the character from that love 02:18 which is awakened by impulse, 02:19 and which dies when severely tested." 02:22 And so this just totally kills all of the "rumors" 02:25 that love is a feeling, but it's a principle. 02:28 Wow, wow. 02:30 I would like to add that love is a choice, 02:34 not just a feeling like he already said. 02:36 It's not based on, 02:38 "Oh, I feel good today, so I love you, 02:40 "or "I like what you did today, 02:42 so I love you." 02:44 But it's a decision to love someone. 02:46 I choose to love you despite of it, 02:49 even to the concept of I agape you. 02:53 I unconditionally love you with the love 02:55 that God has given me 02:57 and the love that he loves all of us with, 02:59 I love you, I decide today that I love you. 03:02 Wow, wow. 03:03 It's a conscious decision as she said. 03:06 It's something that you make up in your mind 03:08 that it's what you want to have towards somebody. 03:11 It's not a circumstantial 03:16 way of feeling about somebody 03:18 and it's not even really a feeling 03:20 like they both stated it's a principle. 03:22 And God is love, so whenever you love somebody 03:25 or you say that love, you know, you love a certain thing, 03:28 you're basically saying that I put God into this, 03:31 He is involved in it and because He is in, 03:33 that's how it works. 03:35 Wow, wow. Yeah. 03:36 Yeah, I think that I agree totally, I mean, 03:39 that quote pretty much said everything 03:42 straight for anybody, 03:44 but, yeah, you said that it is a principle 03:46 and that principle is the principle of love. 03:49 You know, God's government? Yeah. 03:51 But the principle of love states 03:53 that you are other-centered, you're not self-centered, 03:56 it's about giving, and it's about serving. 03:59 The thing about love though, the word love it's like 04:02 probably one of the most abused words 04:05 in our vocabulary, in the English vocabulary. 04:09 Because we say we love so many things, you know, 04:11 we love our dog 04:13 and, you know, we love chocolate... 04:14 Chocolate, yeah. 04:16 And, you know, we love all these different things 04:17 and then we say we love God, it's like wait, 04:18 how can you love all those things the same way? 04:21 But yeah, it's a very abused word 04:23 but the distillation of the word 04:25 is other-centeredness. 04:26 Yeah, yeah. 04:27 And so being other-centered 04:29 and then also we just throw this in there 04:31 that you really can't love unless you love God first. 04:34 God is love, right? Yeah. 04:36 So how does God then show us what true love is, you know? 04:41 I think I'll take that one. Okay. 04:43 First off giving His Son on the cross. 04:45 Yes, sir. 04:47 And not only doing that but holding Himself, you know, 04:52 not allowing Himself to, "Hey, you know, angels, 04:54 I'm not feeling My Son hanging out there 04:56 and people jeering at Him, 04:58 so I feel like we should go out down there 05:00 and just erase everybody, you know, get my Son." 05:03 But His love for saving us, for redeeming us, 05:07 was allowing us unto bear all of our sins 05:10 which He didn't have to do. 05:12 And those sins dying with Him and raising up 05:17 and allowing us to be clean so that it generalizes it. 05:20 There was Chaplain Pearson, 05:22 came and spoke at theology forum 05:24 a couple of weeks ago. 05:25 And her sermon basically broke down John 3:16, 05:31 so "For God so loved..." 05:34 He loved and then what kind of love is that? 05:37 That's agape. 05:39 "For God so loved the world." 05:41 He loved the world, so He unconditionally loved 05:44 that section of His creation 05:46 that is full of sin, full of sin, 05:49 full of disappointment. 05:50 Okay, so God... 05:51 "For God so loved the world that He gave..." 05:55 So love gives, so God is love 05:57 and God loved the world so much that He gave. 06:01 "For God so loved the world 06:02 that He gave His only begotten Son." 06:07 So love doesn't just give out of excess, 06:09 "Oh, I have a whole bunch, 06:11 I have 500 hundred bottles of water, 06:12 everyone can have one." 06:14 No, God gave this is my only and it's not just, 06:18 it's not a scrap, it's not a crumb, 06:19 but it's the best of My only and God gave that. 06:23 And that's what love is supposed to demonstrate. 06:26 That's a high standard. 06:28 That really should make us think twice 06:30 before we use the word love frivolously, 06:32 because love is serious, 06:34 it comes from something deep inside you, 06:36 it's a value that you place on such a word 06:40 and such a, you know, choice. 06:42 Yeah. So going little deeper. 06:45 We've talked about this love thing a lot 06:47 and we like to throw it around and lot of people, 06:49 lot of young people like to say, 06:51 "Oh, man, I'm so much in love with this person, 06:53 I'm deep and I just fell in love." 06:55 So let's talk what does it mean 06:57 to really be in love with someone? 06:59 And I know that my brother here and myself, 07:02 we both, kind of, in that stage right now, 07:04 so I'm talking to my brother. 07:06 What does it mean to be in love? 07:07 Yeah, to be in love. Love is a beautiful thing. 07:10 Love is really beautiful and it's a gift. 07:12 You all laughing. 07:14 Gift that God gave us 07:16 and we can exhibit a little bit, 07:19 a small portion of that which God loves us, 07:21 so He loves us, He's unconditionally loving us 07:24 and giving us mercy and grace, 07:25 so that we can give that to someone else. 07:28 And not for us to just receive and bottle up 07:30 but for us to give. 07:31 But you meant... 07:33 you said something 07:34 and you kind of went off little bit, 07:36 but the whole falling in love piece. 07:37 Okay. 07:38 I think that's a major issue, you know, especially amongst, 07:41 you know, the younger generation 07:43 and things like that, 07:45 you feel like you're falling in love with this guy, 07:47 this girl looks so good, and we have great conversation 07:50 and we fell in love. 07:52 But I guess a problem with that is, I don't know if... 07:56 I think that you should, kind of, 08:00 be able to stand in love, you know 08:02 kind of, trying to fall in love, 08:05 because when you're falling, 08:06 you're in like a compromised position. 08:08 You know, what I'm saying, you're falling 08:10 and it kind of seems like things can... 08:13 your perception, 08:14 your vantage point is a lot different 08:15 than really having that like the... 08:18 definition set of love 08:20 that really settled a relationship, 08:23 that settled feeling 08:25 that is not you're going here and there 08:27 and your heart is racing here and that way. 08:29 Yeah, at the beginning, yeah, but it should be... 08:32 when it's settled, 08:34 when the Holy Spirit is confirming that thing 08:36 and your heart and your soul 08:38 is really settled in that thing. 08:40 Then you can really know that where you need to be, 08:44 and of course moving forward with prayer. 08:45 Yeah. 08:47 You really know that 08:48 you are in love with that person. 08:52 Yeah. 08:53 And then if I can share this for me, you know, 08:55 I often wondered, you know, if I ever had been in love, 08:58 you know, the relationship, had I ever been in love 09:00 or was I in love with this person? 09:02 And God was just showing me you can't know 09:03 if you've been in love and he says standing in love, 09:05 you're gonna fall in love or whatever, 09:07 you can't know if you actually are standing in love 09:08 unless you stand in love with Me, you know, so, 09:10 I had to really develop a relationship with God 09:13 where I knew that I was actually in love 09:16 with Him or in Him who is love, 09:19 it was in Him that I was in love, you know. 09:21 And so if I'm in Him, I'm in love, 09:23 and so now when I find someone else, 09:25 I was able to kind of see, okay, wow, this... 09:28 I already know what love is, I know what it feels like 09:30 and I see and meet this individual, 09:32 that's it, now I'm in love, you know. 09:34 I might step into again because this person 09:36 also is in love in the presence of God 09:39 and I'm now in the presence so it's all just together, 09:41 we're both in love, you know, and it measure together. 09:45 So it's just awesome when you can understand 09:48 what love is just by understanding who God is. 09:50 Right. 09:51 And to go off with that, 09:52 and I guess to expand on the falling in love, 09:56 love is a verb 09:57 and so it shouldn't be that you're standing in love, 10:00 it should be more you're walking in love. 10:01 Walking, there you go. 10:03 It's a continual process, a journey. 10:04 And most people like to say that they are falling with... 10:07 like you said, 10:08 it's in a compromising position, 10:10 you really don't have a choice. 10:12 And because love is a choice, 10:13 falling in love is a contradiction 10:15 to what actual love is. 10:17 Yeah, so kind of tripped and just fell. 10:18 Right, yeah. 10:19 It's... you shouldn't be... 10:21 it shouldn't be a mistake, you know, 10:22 tripping isn't something that you, you know, plan to do. 10:25 It's not something that people are happy 10:26 but if you tripped, 10:28 you're pretty much upset about it, 10:29 so most should be able to take the idea of love 10:34 as a walking and moving process first with God 10:39 and then whoever God brings along their way. 10:41 Yeah. 10:43 Okay, so what does it mean then to be in love, 10:47 we talked about that, but what does... 10:48 how do you now know 10:50 if you're in love with someone, you know? 10:53 I mean, I believe you hit on it already 10:55 in the sense that you can't know if... 10:57 you can't know if you're in love with someone 11:00 if you don't know God. 11:01 It all starts with God, it's all settled in Christ, 11:03 the example of how God loved. 11:05 So for me to even recognize, okay, 11:08 I care for you so much that I can say 11:11 that I decide today to love you, 11:14 the feeling of that, the understanding of that, 11:17 the choice of that, can't come 11:19 unless you understand God first. 11:21 Okay. 11:22 I think that's kind of like, kind of, 11:24 what Dajanae said, when you... 11:27 how you know you're in love is each of you individually 11:30 have to be in love with God. 11:32 So when I see that person that, you know, 11:35 I'm in love with her... 11:37 the question was how do you know... 11:39 if I think I'm there, 11:41 I think that the thing that keeps us 11:45 going forward and thinking, 11:46 okay, we might be in love is I see God in her. 11:50 Like, I have a relation with God myself, 11:52 I'm like, wait, our relationship 11:54 which is horizontal, 11:55 it kind of feels like there's some elements 11:58 that this vertical relationship is in. 12:00 So when you know that, I mean, you kind of get that, you know, 12:03 the sign off one cause it's like, 12:05 wow, this is so familiar, 12:07 because they're so hid in Christ 12:09 and you are so hid in Christ. 12:10 And then when you're interacting 12:12 and it go together, it's just a beautiful synergy 12:16 that's there with God in the middle 12:17 but not that God is separated or isolated from you both 12:21 but God's in you both. 12:23 And God is that driving force that brings you together 12:25 so I think that's really when you know. 12:27 Yeah, I will take that a little further in saying 12:30 three is the numeric value of love. 12:34 Where there is one, love cannot occur period. 12:37 Where there is two you now love or you have selfish tendencies 12:42 because you're looking at one and you're like, okay, 12:45 how can they benefit me? 12:47 But where there is three, 12:48 you have to humbly differ attention 12:50 to both parties. 12:51 And now you have to love those two parties 12:54 in a divided interest. 12:56 So say, if one, two, three were loving each other, 13:01 or we're in a relationship, I now have to... 13:04 I'm the third party and so I have to say, 13:06 how can I bring them closer to each other? 13:09 But also I'm saying how can he bring us closer. 13:14 And God presents Himself in a relationship, Father, 13:16 Son and Holy Spirit, and if you see the shapes, 13:21 the triangle is a strongest shape. 13:23 They put a triangle under the pressure... 13:26 all the shapes under pressure 13:27 and the triangle was the one to stay 13:29 under the pressure the longest 13:31 because it has those other angles supporting it. 13:34 Wow, yeah. That's awesome. 13:37 So and I love that illustration there 13:40 because you need... 13:41 God has to be in relationship of love if you want it to stay. 13:44 And that's a part that we oftentimes leave out, 13:47 you know, and we forget. 13:49 So and now one thing I would say 13:51 to add that knowing if you're in love with someone, 13:53 knowing what love looks like a normal love does. 13:56 So let's talk about now what are the things 13:59 that you would do if you're in love, 14:00 I mean, of course, we can go to 1 Corinthians 13, 14:04 I mean how love is 14:05 but what are some practical things, 14:06 someone can say, "Okay, I know I'm in love, 14:09 but I'm still not sacrificing for that person." 14:13 This person in love, you know. 14:15 So what are some things that we can say? 14:17 Say, okay, these are some signs. 14:18 I mean, I don't know 14:19 if this directly answers your question 14:21 but I was talking to my best friend the other day 14:24 and within that conversation it was understood 14:27 that I don't want everybody's love. 14:30 I don't need everybody's love 14:32 and everybody's love is not good for me. 14:34 So just because you say that you love me, 14:38 you're not necessarily lying to your understanding, 14:41 you're not consciously lying. 14:42 But you don't understand God, so you can't love me. 14:45 And so you have to once again 14:48 understand the characteristics of love through Christ. 14:51 So I can identify if your love is worthy of my love, 14:56 and I'm not even worthy 14:58 because it's the understanding that... 15:00 okay, Christ has caught us all to love one another. 15:03 Right. To agape everybody. 15:05 Exactly. 15:07 But now within a marriage relationship 15:09 or boyfriend, girlfriend courtship, 15:11 heading to a marriage relationship, 15:13 I don't... 15:15 I'm not necessarily supposed to be 15:16 in a relationship with you like that 15:17 if you don't understand God. 15:19 Okay. 15:20 Anyone else want to add to that? 15:22 I think when you focus 15:25 and I'll give an illustration to kind of explain it. 15:28 When you have both people who are focused on God 15:33 which is vertical, eventually they will run into each other. 15:38 And with that focus there, they'll notice, like he said, 15:42 they'll notice that God inside of both of them 15:45 and that love will be a natural unforced merge 15:51 of what God has for both of them 15:53 and then towards each other. 15:55 And just like he said the triangle is a strong shape 15:59 because it has the support at the bottom 16:01 and both sides are looking upward. 16:04 And so with that, I think that's how you know 16:08 that you're loved. 16:09 The type of things that you would do 16:11 isn't even that you're directly focusing 16:13 on what you can do for that person 16:14 but when you put God into the equation what you do, 16:17 what He allows you to do will automatically exude 16:22 that love that you have for that person 16:23 without really needing to try. 16:25 Okay, okay. I like that. 16:27 Now I just wanna switch gears just a little bit here 16:29 because I do wanna touch on how do you know when it's time, 16:33 we are talking about being in love 16:34 so how do you when it's time? 16:36 Maybe just even to get into a relationship, you know, 16:38 and James, do you want to touch on that? 16:40 So yeah, I ask a question, 16:41 I think that's whatever one wants to know, 16:43 everyone has his desires, and passion, and urges 16:45 and they're like when is it that I do it? 16:48 I think that God gives us as men and women 16:53 different urges and different desires 16:56 specially when we grow up 16:57 and we hit adolescence and we continue to grow. 17:00 And I think these desires are from God, that, you know, 17:05 things kind of get awaken in us, 17:06 but I do believe that it is a signal from God, 17:12 but it's not a signal to pursue a relationship, 17:15 to get into a relationship with someone else. 17:17 I think it's a signal to pursue you growing as a man, 17:22 you growing as a woman, 17:24 so eventually as you grown as a man and a woman 17:28 and learned your identity as a godly man and godly woman 17:31 and know that who you are in Christ. 17:34 At that time where God says, okay, now it's time, 17:37 now I can put you, you together with someone who is likeminded, 17:42 then that thing will be rich at that point. 17:45 I think sometimes we get into relationships too early 17:48 because we follow our impulses 17:50 and that's when people's hearts get broken. 17:53 And our hearts are so tender 17:55 and they need to be handled with care 17:57 and it's not that we have bad intentions 18:01 of not handling the other person's heart, 18:04 but we just really don't know how to do it. 18:06 You know, we might have a best intend as well, 18:09 I don't wanna break her heart, you know, 18:11 but then you just are not equipped 18:13 to really take care of it, 18:14 how it needs to be taken care of. 18:16 So I think we should definitely work on our self 18:20 and wait till the right time is 18:22 and you'll know when the right time is. 18:23 Okay. 18:25 I wanna go back to the whole heartbreak thing, 18:26 but I also wanna ask, you said something about, 18:28 you know, impulses and what not, you know, 18:30 how do you differentiate them 18:32 between what love is 18:35 or just infatuation with someone, you know? 18:39 I think I can take that one. 18:40 Infatuation is an intense, 18:43 I wanna say an intense like for somebody, 18:46 but it's not on the same love as love 18:50 because God is love, right? 18:53 And God didn't half love us, you know, 18:56 He full 100% loved us. 18:59 He intensely loved like us because He created us, 19:04 of course He is going to like us, 19:05 but He didn't just half heartedly, 19:08 uncertainly put His principle into us. 19:14 And so I feel like the way that you know the difference 19:18 is that when somebody, like we've stated, 19:22 when you see God in both, you know, 19:25 that person in you've already developed your relationship 19:28 with God, it's automatic. 19:31 It's not uncertain, it's not floundering, 19:34 because infatuation is floundering, 19:35 it fades away, it's a quick emotion. 19:39 And you don't wanna base anything off of emotion 19:42 or a feeling and so that I think 19:43 that's how you differentiate. 19:45 Okay. 19:46 I also wanna say that I think 19:48 that especially young people need to be careful 19:49 about getting trying to say or be in love, 19:52 you know, too quickly 19:54 because again it goes back talking 19:56 about the whole heartbreak thing. 19:58 I think that a lot of times what happens 20:00 is when you're so young, you kind of, 20:01 don't even know what really love is 20:03 and so you kind of get, you kind of, 20:04 what you're really experiencing is more of an infatuation. 20:07 So you're kind of confused on really what it is. 20:09 And so then of course 20:11 the heartbreaks comes a lot of times 20:12 with these different situations. 20:14 So being young people how do we even, you know, 20:17 in relationship 20:19 avoid that infatuation, or heartbreak, you know, 20:22 how do you really avoid those type of things 20:23 and keeping things in perspective with your age, 20:26 and again that kind of goes back 20:27 to when you should start this whole thing. 20:28 So? 20:30 Well, what you wanna do is pray without ceasing 20:32 like being constant, 20:34 and praying without ceasing is not, 20:36 "Dear Jesus" all the time, 20:38 but it's really directing your thoughts to God. 20:41 And so if you're in a relationship 20:43 and you're courting someone, dating someone, 20:46 you wanna always be in constant communion 20:49 and directing all those thoughts, 20:50 all those feelings toward God. 20:52 And if they start to lead you down a road 20:55 that you don't really wanna go down, 20:56 that's when you're like, okay, I need to tighten up 20:59 something within my relationship with God. 21:00 Because apparently 21:02 the connection between me and him 21:04 is off just a little bit 21:05 and so it's not necessarily between you and I, 21:08 but it's between me and God. 21:10 And so I need to get my relationship with God. 21:14 Okay, and I agree with that. 21:15 Do you think that's a little bit challenging 21:16 for maybe someone who is 15, 16, 17 21:20 that you make be, you know, saying, you know, 21:23 making a mature decision like that or maybe if not that, 21:25 maybe they shouldn't, I don't know, 21:26 I'm just kind of stretching 21:28 for the practicality of that, you know. 21:29 Yeah, and I hear what you're saying 21:31 as far as the practicality but at the end of the day, 21:32 if you're not ready to acknowledge God 21:34 in a relationship, you don't need to be in one. 21:36 So if you're 15 years old, 15, 16, 14 years old 21:41 and you're like, that doesn't make sense, 21:43 well, you need to get to know God better, still nonetheless. 21:46 So when's the right time to get in a relationship? 21:48 When I'm able to say I can hear the voice of God 21:50 and God is saying yes. 21:52 Here we go. 21:53 And if God is not saying yes, then you need to stop 21:54 and pause and work on that relation 21:56 'cause ultimately if I die and never get married, 22:00 I'll be okay. 22:02 Like, but if I die and I've never known God, 22:04 I won't be okay. 22:05 So realizing where your priority is, 22:08 is being in a relationship and getting married 22:11 and being able to have sex in marriage 22:13 is that like your ultimate goal is that 22:16 what you are trying to obtain, 22:17 because if you try to do that you will be hurt. 22:19 You will be if that's your goal. 22:21 Wow, okay. 22:22 And in the Bible, 22:24 love is the only definite article 22:25 that describes God. 22:27 God is called many things in the Bible but love, 22:29 it says God is love. 22:31 And so if we want to love someone, 22:33 if we want to fall or grow 22:36 and walk in love with someone... 22:37 Yeah, there you go. 22:39 That's basically we have to be in God. 22:41 And if you don't wanna acknowledge God 22:43 like Dajanae said, 22:45 you don't need to be in a relationship. 22:46 Right, all right. 22:49 I do wanna spend a little time before we lose our time 22:53 to really talk to the young people 22:56 and we have one lady in here shown to hold it out, 22:59 but I want to talk to young people here 23:01 about what they should be looking for kind of actually 23:04 they should be looking for in the opposite sex 23:06 when it comes to trying to be in a relationship. 23:08 You know, in saying that, what I mean is this, 23:10 I mean in the world a man is probably looking 23:13 for a certain type of woman, you know, 23:14 who is gonna have almost like a trophy, 23:16 the trophy girl, you know, 23:18 whose body in certain way and she is doing this 23:20 and doing that, she can do this for him. 23:22 It's all about what she can maybe do for him. 23:24 But what would a godly men be looking for in a lady? 23:28 Is the physical even part of it, you know, 23:31 and then also for the women side, 23:32 you know, you're holding down for ladies. 23:34 So what should a woman be looking 23:36 for in a man, you know, is it just about, 23:38 you know, his charisma and his muscles and what not. 23:40 What is it really they should be looking for? 23:43 So I'm gonna ask Kyle, start with that? 23:45 Okay, well, I think it goes back to seeing God 23:49 in that person 23:50 and their relationship with God is together, 23:54 it's intact. 23:55 And they have... 23:58 I guess I can go to Genesis with this, 24:01 God made Adam and then He made Eve 24:04 and that all happened where Adam had a job, 24:08 you know, he gave the animals names, 24:10 and he was taking care of the garden. 24:12 And then God put him to sleep and you know, 24:14 he wasn't conscious, wow, 24:18 this person that he was going to be spending 24:20 the rest of his life with was coming. 24:23 So God knows exactly what you're looking for 24:27 even if you don't know what you're looking for. 24:30 There's a quote, my Mom says it a lot, she says, 24:34 "Let Adam sleep." 24:35 And what she means by that is 24:38 if you're not looking for that person 24:40 because you shouldn't have to search, you know, 24:42 if God knows what you want, if you've given Him 24:45 that the reigns to that part of your life. 24:49 He'll bring along the person, you won't have to search 24:52 because that person will automatically 24:53 complement everything that you're looking for. 24:55 So I think it's allowing God to control that part of you. 24:58 Okay, awesome. Dajanae? 25:01 I'm still getting my thoughts together 25:03 as far as, okay, what in a godly man... 25:10 I need... 25:11 there's something that before I was attracted to 25:16 but now being in Christ, 25:18 it is like the passion in another man for God. 25:23 So like, just as passionate as I'm for the Lord like, 25:27 you have that same passion. 25:29 And it's kind of like what... 25:30 it's the same thing that Kyle is saying, 25:31 does it complement my passion for Christ. 25:35 And as a woman, as a female theology major, 25:38 are you going to be okay with like, 25:42 the fact that I'm passionate about the Lord, 25:44 like are you gonna feel like I'm dominating over you 25:47 'cause I'm talking about Jesus? 25:49 And if you are then we're probably 25:51 not gonna work together, 25:52 but there are men out there that kind of complement, 25:56 you know, my passion for Jesus. 25:58 And being able to... 26:01 for me to feel comfortable with submitting to you 26:04 because you love God so much that we... 26:09 it won't be as difficult, it won't be a clash. 26:12 Okay. All right. 26:13 David? 26:16 Realistically, I know we are like in this since 26:20 but most of the world wouldn't think like us. 26:23 So with males, you wanna find girl. 26:26 Yeah, let's be real. 26:29 That's right, right, right. It's important. 26:31 I don't wanna wake up to anybody I'm regretting. 26:35 It's important but everything that glitters is not gold. 26:39 And that's why I'm gonna leave that at, 26:41 just be wise and always rely on God. 26:44 Yeah, and I think that's a key point that you said. 26:47 I think that we as an individual, 26:48 we are visual, 26:50 and you know, we do, you know, 26:52 we all watch out to the beautiful girls 26:53 but I think that what we've seen through media 26:57 and these different things they've given us a view 27:02 of what a woman should look like. 27:04 But as godly men, you know, 27:08 we're looking for something deeper 27:10 and yeah, absolutely, you know, beautiful. 27:14 But you know, the Bible also talks 27:15 about how the beauty of a woman is acquired 27:18 in meek and gentle spirit. 27:20 And so the spirit is kind of overpowering 27:24 their physical, 27:28 but the physical is still visible, 27:30 you know what I'm saying, so the God blesses that way. 27:33 Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean, 27:35 'cause as a man you can always look 27:37 for just the finest woman, 27:38 you gotta look for the person 27:40 who has a spirit of God in them. 27:41 And I just wanna end with saying 27:42 as the time is running now. 27:44 And now these three remain, faith, hope and love, 27:48 but the greatest of these is love, 27:50 1 Corinthians 13:13. 27:52 You know, God holds love to high standard, 27:54 so I remember to make pure choices. |
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