Pure Choices

Distorted Reality

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Timothy Lawson (Host), Brittany-Hill Morales, Jacques LaGuerre, Myesha Lawson, Xavier Morales

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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material
00:05 may be too candid for younger children.
00:42 Welcome to Pure Choices. I am your host Timothy Lawson.
00:45 We have an amazing program for you today.
00:48 Well, before we get into that, I want to start off
00:50 and introduce some of my friends
00:52 in our panel that we have here.
00:53 To my right, we have Xavier Morales.
00:56 And, Xavier, who is this young lady right next to you?
00:58 This is my beautiful,
01:00 intelligent wife Brittany Hill-Morales.
01:02 Brittany Hill-Morales.
01:03 And this is Jacques LaGuerre
01:05 and this is a very special person
01:07 near and dear to my heart,
01:09 this is my lovely wife Myesha Lawson.
01:12 Amen.
01:13 "He that findeth a wife findeth a good thing."
01:15 Amen.
01:16 Now on this program today,
01:18 we're gonna talk about fornication
01:21 and what it has to do with our spirituality.
01:24 Just what is,
01:25 how does fornication directly impact
01:27 our relationship with God.
01:29 But before we get into that,
01:30 let's say exactly what fornication is.
01:32 On this program we're talking about
01:35 that fornication is premarital sex.
01:39 And before we get too deep into that,
01:41 we want to pray first
01:42 and ask the Lord's blessing to be on our show.
01:44 So would you bow your heads with me?
01:47 Dear kind and gracious Heavenly Father,
01:48 we ask that You guide our discussion
01:50 and guide our topic
01:52 so that we will hear words from You in Jesus' name, amen.
01:56 Amen. Amen.
01:57 So when we speak about fornication,
01:59 we're talking about sex outside of the marriage covenant,
02:03 either by two people who are not married or a person
02:07 who is married with somebody who they're not married too,
02:09 that's what we are talking about.
02:11 And we want to go right into our first question.
02:13 Our first question is what is God's will for our lives?
02:17 And I'm gonna need some help from you guys with that one.
02:19 What is God's ultimate will for our lives?
02:21 What does He want from us? What does He want to do to us?
02:25 He wants obedience. He wants obedience?
02:27 Yes. Okay, all right.
02:29 He wants us to love Him, to really worship Him,
02:32 you know, just to serve Him completely.
02:34 Right. Anybody else?
02:37 You want to chime in God's ultimate will.
02:39 I think it's God's will for our life
02:41 that we reflect His character
02:42 and so that other people can see Christ in us.
02:45 I love that answer.
02:46 Reflect His character
02:47 so that other people can see Christ in us,
02:50 and that ties directly in to the verse
02:54 that is gonna answer our question.
02:56 The Bible says, "For this is the will of God,
03:00 even your sanctification."
03:02 And so the Bible calls God,
03:04 a Holy God and he wants us to make holy beings
03:07 and what sin did is it destroyed
03:09 this image of God.
03:10 But what is beautiful about that verse
03:13 that ties directly into our topic
03:15 is the latter end of that verse says,
03:18 "That you would have stayed from fornication."
03:21 And now I find that tremendously interesting
03:24 that in the same breath, in the same verse that God says
03:28 "This is My will," He brings up fornication.
03:32 Now when God wants to sanctify us,
03:35 there is another characteristic or a part of His image
03:38 as where that goes along with it.
03:40 What do you guys think
03:41 that is that always ties into sanctification,
03:43 it's never apart from it?
03:47 Brittany, I want to go to you,
03:49 I want you to answer this one for me.
03:52 When I think of God's character and Him being a holy God,
03:56 that element of loving Him and serving Him
03:59 that those true forms
04:01 of worshipping God and how that,
04:03 He wants that to be part of our character
04:05 to resemble holiness.
04:07 And I think of an example with my mom.
04:11 I love my mom. I care for her.
04:14 And, on like days like Mother's Day
04:17 because I love her,
04:18 I would probably go out, travel and probably
04:21 the entire city of Antigua back home,
04:24 or probably what I did last year,
04:26 I called all the different florists
04:28 and I was like, "Can you take an American card,
04:30 I would like to leave a flowers to my mom?"
04:32 And I do those things because I love her.
04:35 And it's a same thing with God, when you love Him
04:37 and your character is becoming more holy,
04:38 and it's becoming
04:40 more of what He would want like us to be.
04:42 We want to do things that will please Him
04:44 and truly show our dedication and appreciation
04:47 for who He is and what He does for us.
04:49 Well, that was a beautiful story.
04:51 That just tied in everything.
04:53 God making us holy also has to do
04:55 with His love.
04:56 You know, there is a verse in 1 Thessalonians 3:12
04:59 and 13 says that
05:01 "As we abound actually in love,
05:04 we increase in holiness."
05:07 And so the two are never separated,
05:09 they're always together but since God wants us
05:11 to make us these loving holy beings,
05:14 what parts of us does He want to do that to?
05:17 Is it just our minds? Is it just our feet?
05:20 Is it just our arms?
05:21 Is it just our hearts? It's our hearts.
05:22 It's our hearts? It's our hearts.
05:24 I think he talks about it too where,
05:25 you know, we give every member of our body into holiness.
05:30 Yeah.
05:31 One of the biggest detriments is,
05:33 you know, you mention fornication,
05:35 you know, like we have to give every aspect of us,
05:38 every part of our being,
05:39 physically and psychologically to Him
05:43 that it may be presented holy on to Him.
05:47 Every part of our being. Perfect.
05:49 That's what I like, Tim,
05:50 and I believe what Christ really wants,
05:52 like deep down inside, He wants our heart.
05:54 You know, 'cause Matthew 5 says,
05:56 "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God."
05:58 And the Bible also says that
06:00 "Out of the abundance of the heart
06:01 the mouth speaketh."
06:03 And so if God has our heart and He's changing our heart
06:05 and He's giving us a heart of flesh
06:07 instead of a heart of stone,
06:09 then all of these works
06:10 in our obedience and our actions,
06:12 they all flow out of a pure heart
06:14 because that's what God has given us.
06:16 So you're saying, God wants to...
06:18 Every member and you're saying for God
06:20 to sanctify every member,
06:22 He first has to have the heart,
06:23 the controlling factor.
06:25 Now let's not forget that.
06:26 Everybody, remember that
06:28 and we jump right into our next question.
06:31 What did God make the body for?
06:35 There's a particular Bible verse
06:37 that says the body is not for fornication
06:40 but for something else?
06:43 Does anybody know?
06:46 What does God make the body for?
06:47 It says, it's for Him. Yeah.
06:49 Okay. He made it for the Lord.
06:52 So God didn't make the body for fornication,
06:55 He made it for the Lord.
06:57 So when God's trying to sanctify us,
06:58 when He's trying to perfect our wills,
07:01 what He wants to do is get to our minds
07:03 because our body
07:04 is just an expression of what's inside.
07:06 You see?
07:08 So we can't understand God's love,
07:11 unless we have His love in our hearts.
07:12 Right.
07:14 And if we are out there
07:15 or if we are involved in things with our body,
07:18 may be fornicating and premarital sex,
07:21 it shows that we have a distorted picture of reality
07:24 of what God's love is in our hearts.
07:28 And so the body, the outward, our physical presence
07:32 is only a manifestation of what's inside.
07:35 Now I want to ask another question
07:36 and we can take some time on this.
07:38 How does fornication affect our ability
07:43 to live out God's commandments of love?
07:46 Well, first, I start off
07:47 what are God's commandments of love?
07:50 They're broken down into two parts,
07:52 who're we supposed to love?
07:54 "Love God with all of your heart."
07:55 "Love God with all of our heart?"
07:56 And there is another.
07:58 "And love your neighbor as yourself."
07:59 "And love your neighbor as ourself."
08:01 Now this is supposed to be where?
08:02 In our toes or is this supposed
08:04 to be in our hearts or in our minds?
08:05 What do you think? Both.
08:07 Both.
08:08 And so when God puts that love in my mind,
08:11 then it gets manifested in the physical world.
08:14 And so fornication is one of the biggest examples,
08:18 I guess we could say that this isn't happening.
08:22 And I want to talk about
08:25 just how fornication affects our spirituality.
08:28 I know that when I struggle with this a lot of times,
08:33 it wouldn't be that, may be necessarily,
08:36 I said I just hated God or anything or denounce God,
08:40 but it gave me a disinterest in spiritual things.
08:43 It does that.
08:45 As I think about just where...
08:48 As we talked about before, loving God, worshiping,
08:50 wanting to serve Him,
08:52 when you start doing things
08:53 that is not in relation to what God wants for us,
08:57 you start, you know, stepping back away from Him.
09:00 "Okay, God, I know
09:02 that you want me to wait until marriage,
09:03 but I really love him, I really like him,
09:06 I think he is the one"
09:07 and we're gonna get married anyways,
09:09 so why not.
09:10 But as you start engaging,
09:11 you start pushing further and further away,
09:14 you don't do your devotion every morning
09:15 like you used to do.
09:17 You used to go to church for Sabbath school,
09:18 may be I'll go for divine worship
09:20 or may be I'll go just in time for the sermon.
09:23 Like, you slowly start doing things
09:25 that is not really,
09:27 how it was before
09:29 because you know you're doing something
09:30 that's not what God wants for you
09:32 and that guilt starts coming over you,
09:34 that "Okay, I know I shouldn't be doing this
09:37 but he's so good, but then, Lord,
09:39 I love you too"
09:41 and then you feel this guilt that may be
09:42 that's even why some people don't go to church
09:44 because they have that guilt and that shame.
09:46 I know I'm not supposed to, but yet, it's fun.
09:50 But, yeah, I love guy and it's like that,
09:52 you know, twist and turn trying to figure out
09:54 what exactly it is I am supposed to be doing.
09:57 And it's almost like
09:59 when we're engaged in that pivotal moment
10:02 that we're not loving our neighbor as ourself
10:07 because we're not being selfless
10:10 but we're being selfish.
10:12 We desire something from them
10:14 and sometimes it can affect on how we view God.
10:16 We could think God's keeping something away from us.
10:19 Has anybody experienced that?
10:20 Or known people that because they want,
10:25 you know, to engage in fornication so much,
10:28 it directly affects how they think God
10:30 is managing their life.
10:32 Well, when you get into sexual sin
10:36 and when you get into just sin in general,
10:38 you begin to fall in love if I can use that word.
10:41 And then when you go to church
10:42 or when you do devotion every now
10:44 and then or when you read your Bible,
10:46 and you read that
10:48 God doesn't want you to do this,
10:50 God is asking you to do,
10:51 not do something that you really like doing.
10:54 And so now, you see God as a parent
10:56 who's trying to take something away
10:58 from you that's good instead of as a parent
11:00 who's trying to keep you away
11:02 from something that's dangerous.
11:04 And especially with fornication,
11:06 like what Brittany was saying
11:08 that it's selfish and it's not selfless.
11:11 And you're racked with all this guilt,
11:12 and all this shame, and all this remorse,
11:15 and even if you do end up marrying that person,
11:17 you have associated sex with sin, and shame, and guilt
11:23 that there is many people who even when they're married,
11:25 they can't really enjoy sex the way God wants them to
11:29 because they did it the wrong way
11:31 and in the wrong time for so long.
11:33 Wow! Wow!
11:36 And I think too what people don't understand
11:38 is that God is not just a father figure
11:42 that's just, you know, tries to put you down.
11:44 He is the one that made you,
11:46 so He knows how you gonna function,
11:48 meaning that, even science, regular science,
11:51 you know, non-Christian science is proving the fact that,
11:53 you know, when you have fornication part of you
11:55 literally goes, you know, part of your DNA goes,
11:59 you know, intermixes with the other person
12:00 that you're fornicating with,
12:01 so He already has seen,
12:04 you know, He put that in place
12:05 because He knows physiologically
12:07 and psychologically, there is more,
12:09 you know, there is a huge detriment
12:11 to your system, to your body,
12:12 to the way you think, to the way you act.
12:13 You know, now,
12:15 you're gonna associate the word love
12:17 with intermixing it with lust.
12:19 When it is intermixing with fornication,
12:21 and then anytime you need love,
12:23 you're gonna go out and find somebody to give you
12:25 that physical love
12:26 rather than the spiritual aspect of it.
12:29 Wow! I like to say something.
12:32 It was amazing what you just said how...
12:34 The Bible says that "Two shall become one."
12:37 And so when you're giving someone your body,
12:40 you're giving them a piece of you,
12:41 you're taking a piece of them as well.
12:43 But when you're doing it, the way God didn't design it,
12:47 there can be consequences to that, you know.
12:50 There's a lot of scarring, you're scarring yourself,
12:53 you know, so when we do things
12:55 the way God designed us to do it,
12:57 it's so much better, you know, it's so much...
13:00 It's beautiful, you know, and the way...
13:01 I just love the way
13:03 'cause the way He designed things,
13:04 He's a mathematical,
13:05 you know, He is a great teacher,
13:07 He's an awesome God.
13:08 So I just like the way that you broke that down.
13:11 It was amazing. That's beautiful.
13:15 I love that point.
13:16 And so it seems like kind of what you're saying
13:19 is when I engage in fornication,
13:23 it really is gonna distort
13:25 my reality of what I think love is
13:28 and what I think a marriage should be in a partnership.
13:32 And even, what I think my relationship
13:34 with God should be.
13:35 I think he should, you know, give me what this wants
13:37 'cause like you said, I'm in love now,
13:39 you know, but then now,
13:41 I know, I am doing something wrong.
13:42 And so now, I am gonna be in this almost circle
13:45 this whirlwind trying to justify my actions
13:49 in such a way
13:50 where I am distorting the beautiful stuff
13:54 as you put that God has for me.
13:56 And so, okay, I'm in fornication,
14:00 I see that it's distorting my reality,
14:02 I see it's affecting my spirituality.
14:05 Is it broken now? Is there any way I can fix it?
14:08 Can I do something different now
14:11 to mend this relationship?
14:13 What do you guys think?
14:14 I think you should start off with recognizing your sins,
14:19 you know, and the things that you're doing
14:22 because you want to realize
14:23 what is separating you from God.
14:25 He never left us. We're leaving Him.
14:28 So personally, I've been through this before
14:33 and I went into a state of depression.
14:35 And, you know, the devil,
14:36 he always like to whisper things in your ear,
14:38 you know, that your God is not there for you,
14:41 you're not a Christian, you know, all these things,
14:44 you're doing this, you're doing that.
14:46 Well, the Lord is good
14:48 because we're able to go to Him as we are.
14:54 And we should fast and we should pray for this
14:56 because it's a stronghold.
14:59 And so, yes, the Lord,
15:00 He wants us to come to Him, broken,
15:03 you know, so He can fix,
15:05 and He can mould us and heal us.
15:07 So yes, I believe
15:09 that we can be restored to God because He never left us.
15:11 He's always there for us.
15:14 Jacques, Jacq, what are some steps
15:17 that you've seen somebody else take
15:20 or you may have taken yourself, you know, finding out
15:23 they had a severed relationship with the Lord
15:26 and involved in fornication.
15:27 What are some steps
15:29 they started making back to reform?
15:31 Well, in my own personal experience,
15:32 when I came back to the Lord,
15:34 I was involved in that lifestyle
15:37 with fornication
15:38 and with an addiction to pornography,
15:40 and one thing I had to do was get,
15:42 ask God one to help me to hate what I loved.
15:48 And I think that's one of the first steps.
15:49 It's claiming the promise that found in Genesis,
15:52 take the first promise of the Bible,
15:54 where He says "I will give you enmity."
15:57 So I had to learn to hate what I once loved.
16:00 And then once that happened,
16:02 I ask God to reeducate me on what sex really is
16:06 because I feel like the best way
16:08 to fight the devil and his lies is with God's truth.
16:12 And so personally,
16:13 I started reading the Song of Solomon
16:15 and I started learning what the Bible says about sex,
16:18 and I started reading more and reading letters
16:21 to young lovers by Ellen White,
16:23 reading testimonies on sexual behavior
16:27 and all these different books
16:28 so that I get reeducated on what sex really is.
16:32 And what it really is in God's really plan.
16:35 All right, we spoke earlier,
16:36 you said, God wants to make us in His image,
16:39 and when He decided to do that,
16:40 He decided to make us male and female in His plan,
16:43 He incorporated sex in His plan for us
16:46 to be in His image.
16:48 So now that I have fornicated, it's affecting my spirituality
16:51 and, Brittany, this question is going to you.
16:53 Now I am married, and so like before,
16:56 you know, I've been in this lifestyle,
16:57 I have the guilt and shame mixed in.
16:59 How do I separate the lust and the guilt and shame,
17:03 and now coming to oneness with my spouse to where,
17:09 instead of being fornication her
17:10 to my spirituality,
17:12 it say, love relationship
17:14 and it's actually boosting my spirituality.
17:18 As I think about being married to my loving husband,
17:23 there's so much beauty in sex as married couple versus
17:29 fornication outside of that beautiful covenant
17:31 that God has in place.
17:33 And I think that's what we need to also remember.
17:35 Sex isn't bad, sex is wonderful.
17:38 It's when you're trying to do it outside
17:40 of what God intended and created it to be.
17:43 Like there are so many young couples,
17:45 they're in love with each other,
17:47 they really care for each other, they're like,
17:49 "Okay, this is our expression of intimacy"
17:52 but you're not married yet, you're not there.
17:55 So you need to spend that time
17:56 actually getting to know each other
17:58 and that's what I love about Xavier and myself.
18:01 We spent like two years
18:04 and because we weren't engaging in sex,
18:06 we were actually getting to know each other
18:08 on a different level.
18:09 And I could actually be able to safely say, yes,
18:13 I do want to marry him.
18:14 In relationship,
18:15 I was in before because we were engaging.
18:18 All like the red flags were there
18:20 but I couldn't see it because when you have sex,
18:23 you have that chemical release that allows you to intermingle
18:27 and to intertwine with that person,
18:29 and to care for that person on a different level.
18:32 So because of that I wasn't able see
18:34 all the red flags,
18:35 but when we stopped 'cause we were like,
18:37 you know, Lord wants us to stop,
18:38 we need to be on the right and narrow path,
18:41 I mean, to straighten our path.
18:43 As soon as we stopped,
18:44 it was like all the red flags started appearing.
18:47 It's started coming clear and I was like,
18:49 "Wait, we probably shouldn't be together."
18:52 And a few months later, issue was over, terminated,
18:55 done with.
18:56 Wow! Wow!
18:57 And that's basically, really how it is
18:59 because, you may be like, okay,
19:01 it is a formal expression but you may be lined it
19:04 with what really is happening in that relationship
19:07 because God intended for the chemicals
19:10 that are being released to make
19:12 that relationship tighter, to bring you guys closer,
19:15 to make it go deeper and it's worship to Him.
19:19 So when you're engaging before you're married,
19:21 you're just setting yourself up
19:23 because you don't really know who you are bonding with,
19:25 who you're becoming one with.
19:28 So it's damaging a little bit
19:31 when you do it before you get married
19:33 and it's also blinding.
19:34 So have you seen that in other relationships
19:37 in other couples
19:38 where it actually your emotions and your thoughts,
19:40 you get real blinded and you get real damaged?
19:43 I mean, I've been through in the past,
19:44 you know, and that's the issue there.
19:46 I've faced that guilt,
19:48 you know, that when I used to talked
19:49 about that guilt because essentially,
19:51 you know, I know God is gonna provide
19:52 the right spouse for me, yes, He did.
19:54 But in that process,
19:56 when I know she is the right one,
19:59 I felt guilty 'cause I was like,
20:00 I'm bringing all this baggage with me,
20:02 you know.
20:04 Yes, God restores,
20:05 but your mind doesn't get erased.
20:08 You know, the damage that you've done to it.
20:09 Yes, God removed
20:10 that emotional aspect of that hurt and heals you
20:14 but you still have that in your subconscious
20:16 where you remember the people that you were with,
20:19 you know, how is that fair to your wife,
20:22 how is that fair to your spouse.
20:24 And furthermore, you know, God created us in His image
20:26 to the point where, we have this gift of sex.
20:30 We're able to procreate.
20:33 It's a form of creation. Right.
20:34 You know, God is the creator
20:36 and He gave us the ability to procreate.
20:38 You know, it's a form of godliness to be able
20:42 to reproduce, to create a new life.
20:44 We have been given this great honor,
20:47 to be able to create life.
20:48 And we often just wasted all just to have more,
20:53 you know, more kids out there or even just wasted.
20:55 You know, it's a beautiful thing
20:57 to be able to be, you know, in this oneness
20:59 where we got be able to create like He does in that form.
21:04 I like that you said the creation part of it is
21:07 the same as godliness.
21:09 You know, really just showing how in reality,
21:12 we're opposed to be godly and the sexual relationship
21:16 is supposed to be used to that affect.
21:18 And so one of Satan's biggest plans
21:21 is to take pieces
21:23 of what God used to make us godly
21:25 and to distort him for his own purposes,
21:28 you know, whether it be sex, whether it be,
21:32 you know, just any kind of relationships
21:33 we have out there.
21:35 So I got another question.
21:37 All right, I've been in this relationship,
21:40 I have done all this stuff,
21:42 I have all this guilt and shame,
21:44 may be I'm watching the show
21:45 and I'm involved in fornication.
21:47 Am I a bad person? Is there a hope for me?
21:51 What are the kind of help
21:53 can I get to get out of the situation I am in?
21:58 One piece of advice
21:59 that I would give to that person
22:01 is make it a priority to make God a priority
22:06 because if you truly want to put God first,
22:09 then this has to stop
22:12 because we all want love, we all desire love,
22:16 God made our heart
22:17 with a hole so big that only He could fill it.
22:21 And so when we fornicate, many of us we think,
22:24 we're making love.
22:26 But making love,
22:29 the definition that I find in the scripture
22:31 is doing something that God would do.
22:35 And so if God were married and He had a wife,
22:39 He would be intimate with her physically,
22:40 so that is making love.
22:42 But if you're not married, you're not making love,
22:44 you're making sin.
22:46 And so if there is someone who's watching this
22:50 and who's interested in,
22:51 how can I get closer to God, I'm fornicating,
22:54 I'll tell them that they need to make it a priority
22:57 to make God a priority,
22:58 put themselves away from the person
23:00 or the people that they're fornicating
23:03 with and to go to God humbly in prayer
23:06 and ask for forgiveness one
23:07 'cause we have to recognize our sin
23:10 and then ask God for power to do the right thing.
23:14 Hang on, did you record it, Brittany?
23:15 Amen. Amen.
23:17 I would also add for 'cause sometimes
23:20 because you've been engaging for like,
23:22 extended period of time,
23:24 your first thing is okay, if we stop,
23:26 then what's gonna happen to the relationship.
23:29 And I would advise any person, if that person is really
23:32 who God has for you and you guys made a mistake,
23:36 I think we do know a couple,
23:38 they had engaged first and then they stopped
23:41 and they really took that time to really pray
23:43 and dedicate relationship to God
23:44 and God was able to restore.
23:46 So if you know you're in it right now,
23:49 and you stop, and you say,
23:51 "God, we know, we did this wrong
23:54 but we want to be completely yours.
23:55 Do you still want us together?
23:57 Do you want us to be on this path?"
23:59 And if God says yes,
24:01 then you can be able to move forward
24:03 and do different boundaries, have those boundaries
24:06 and all that different stuff and be able to move forward.
24:08 And if He says no, God is the priority,
24:12 you have to go your separate ways.
24:14 Wow!
24:16 So putting God first, putting in Him everything.
24:20 I want to deal with the guilt and shame real quick.
24:21 I've done this
24:23 and I feel guilty, I feel ashamed.
24:24 So I feel like, you know,
24:26 the Lord doesn't love me the same.
24:28 So I want to hear
24:29 from a male perspective Xavier and Myesha,
24:32 how do I deal with the guilt and shame now,
24:34 I've stopped my relationship, I'm putting God first,
24:37 I'm making Him the priority but I still have this heavy,
24:41 you know, almost, like,
24:43 "Man, you know, I cant believe,
24:44 I used to do this."
24:46 How do I...?
24:47 Well, what I did personally,
24:50 I took it to the Lord in prayer.
24:52 I've prayed and I've continued to pray
24:55 because not only God,
24:58 you know, He is your friend, you know.
25:01 It's so easy to go to a person
25:02 and tell them what you're going through.
25:04 But it is easy for you to go to God
25:06 and tell him how you're feeling
25:07 because your friend can't heal you but God can.
25:11 So someone told me that,
25:13 you know, when you're struggling
25:14 with depression, read your Bible,
25:17 you stick to these promises, you know.
25:19 My favorite is
25:21 "Thou wilt keep me in perfect peace,
25:23 with my mind is stayed upon thee,
25:24 because I trusted in thee."
25:26 And that is something
25:28 I will continue to have in my mind
25:31 when I'm in the state of depression
25:32 or I'm feeling guilty.
25:34 I need peace, I need joy, I need happiness,
25:37 and the only way
25:38 I will experience that is with Christ.
25:42 So I encourage to continue to pray
25:45 and read the Word of God.
25:47 Amen. Amen.
25:48 Xavier, same question from a male perspective.
25:50 Yeah, from our perspective, sometimes, I mean,
25:53 that was difficult for me, you know, it's like,
25:55 you got that testosterone,
25:56 you know, you got to go out there,
25:58 you know, and get that.
25:59 But when you actually sit back and pray about it,
26:02 how much, if you say,
26:04 if you profess you love your significant other,
26:06 do you love him enough to respect their body
26:09 and respect your own.
26:10 You know, are you willing to respect them
26:12 in their decision,
26:14 are you respecting your body too, in that sense,
26:16 in that regard,
26:17 you need to have a certain level of respect
26:19 for the other person.
26:20 You know, there is no need to go out there
26:23 and satisfy what you're getting from God.
26:27 You know, the sex aspect
26:28 is gonna come once you're married.
26:30 I'm not saying, you know, go rush to the altar
26:32 'cause now I want to have sex,
26:33 that's a whole different topic but I'm just saying that,
26:36 you know, have enough self respect,
26:39 that you know, guilt comes and it's fine.
26:41 Jesus died on the cross for the guilty.
26:43 Come now, yes.
26:44 He died on the cross for the guilty, you know.
26:46 I'm jacked up and I know that and that's okay,
26:48 that's how Jesus wants me,
26:50 He's not gonna leave me that way.
26:51 But that's how He wants me to be.
26:53 He wants me to be messed up, so I can come to Him
26:55 and He'll fix me little by little and that's the thing,
26:58 you know, take your guilt, it's okay to feel guilty.
27:00 That's called conviction and go to the Holy Spirit,
27:02 you know, go to prayer
27:04 and, you know, start working with God on that.
27:06 It's not impossible.
27:09 So we just really want you to see today,
27:11 on today's program that fornication really
27:14 does have a direct affect on your spirituality.
27:17 It'll affect the way you see people in relationships
27:19 that are intimate,
27:20 and it will also affect the intimate relationship
27:23 that God wants to have with you.
27:25 What we really want to also bring out
27:27 that no matter how guilty you feel,
27:29 no matter how shameful you feel,
27:30 it's Christ that came to take away your shame.
27:33 He came to take away your guilt and to make you a new creature
27:36 and you can start today,
27:38 being that new creature in Christ.
27:40 Where the devil meant for evil,
27:42 God always meant it for good
27:43 'cause however we're feeling inside
27:45 that's bad,
27:46 it makes us run to Christ and run to the cross.
27:49 Well, I do hope you've enjoyed our discussion today.
27:52 I just want to thank my guests
27:54 that came on the panel when I want.
27:55 And I'm Timothy Lawson,
27:57 and I want you to always remember to make pure choices.


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