Participants: Timothy Lawson (Host), Brittany-Hill Morales, Jacques LaGuerre, Myesha Lawson, Xavier Morales
Series Code: PC
Program Code: PC000089A
00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:05 may be too candid for younger children. 00:42 Welcome to Pure Choices. I am your host Timothy Lawson. 00:45 We have an amazing program for you today. 00:48 Well, before we get into that, I want to start off 00:50 and introduce some of my friends 00:52 in our panel that we have here. 00:53 To my right, we have Xavier Morales. 00:56 And, Xavier, who is this young lady right next to you? 00:58 This is my beautiful, 01:00 intelligent wife Brittany Hill-Morales. 01:02 Brittany Hill-Morales. 01:03 And this is Jacques LaGuerre 01:05 and this is a very special person 01:07 near and dear to my heart, 01:09 this is my lovely wife Myesha Lawson. 01:12 Amen. 01:13 "He that findeth a wife findeth a good thing." 01:15 Amen. 01:16 Now on this program today, 01:18 we're gonna talk about fornication 01:21 and what it has to do with our spirituality. 01:24 Just what is, 01:25 how does fornication directly impact 01:27 our relationship with God. 01:29 But before we get into that, 01:30 let's say exactly what fornication is. 01:32 On this program we're talking about 01:35 that fornication is premarital sex. 01:39 And before we get too deep into that, 01:41 we want to pray first 01:42 and ask the Lord's blessing to be on our show. 01:44 So would you bow your heads with me? 01:47 Dear kind and gracious Heavenly Father, 01:48 we ask that You guide our discussion 01:50 and guide our topic 01:52 so that we will hear words from You in Jesus' name, amen. 01:56 Amen. Amen. 01:57 So when we speak about fornication, 01:59 we're talking about sex outside of the marriage covenant, 02:03 either by two people who are not married or a person 02:07 who is married with somebody who they're not married too, 02:09 that's what we are talking about. 02:11 And we want to go right into our first question. 02:13 Our first question is what is God's will for our lives? 02:17 And I'm gonna need some help from you guys with that one. 02:19 What is God's ultimate will for our lives? 02:21 What does He want from us? What does He want to do to us? 02:25 He wants obedience. He wants obedience? 02:27 Yes. Okay, all right. 02:29 He wants us to love Him, to really worship Him, 02:32 you know, just to serve Him completely. 02:34 Right. Anybody else? 02:37 You want to chime in God's ultimate will. 02:39 I think it's God's will for our life 02:41 that we reflect His character 02:42 and so that other people can see Christ in us. 02:45 I love that answer. 02:46 Reflect His character 02:47 so that other people can see Christ in us, 02:50 and that ties directly in to the verse 02:54 that is gonna answer our question. 02:56 The Bible says, "For this is the will of God, 03:00 even your sanctification." 03:02 And so the Bible calls God, 03:04 a Holy God and he wants us to make holy beings 03:07 and what sin did is it destroyed 03:09 this image of God. 03:10 But what is beautiful about that verse 03:13 that ties directly into our topic 03:15 is the latter end of that verse says, 03:18 "That you would have stayed from fornication." 03:21 And now I find that tremendously interesting 03:24 that in the same breath, in the same verse that God says 03:28 "This is My will," He brings up fornication. 03:32 Now when God wants to sanctify us, 03:35 there is another characteristic or a part of His image 03:38 as where that goes along with it. 03:40 What do you guys think 03:41 that is that always ties into sanctification, 03:43 it's never apart from it? 03:47 Brittany, I want to go to you, 03:49 I want you to answer this one for me. 03:52 When I think of God's character and Him being a holy God, 03:56 that element of loving Him and serving Him 03:59 that those true forms 04:01 of worshipping God and how that, 04:03 He wants that to be part of our character 04:05 to resemble holiness. 04:07 And I think of an example with my mom. 04:11 I love my mom. I care for her. 04:14 And, on like days like Mother's Day 04:17 because I love her, 04:18 I would probably go out, travel and probably 04:21 the entire city of Antigua back home, 04:24 or probably what I did last year, 04:26 I called all the different florists 04:28 and I was like, "Can you take an American card, 04:30 I would like to leave a flowers to my mom?" 04:32 And I do those things because I love her. 04:35 And it's a same thing with God, when you love Him 04:37 and your character is becoming more holy, 04:38 and it's becoming 04:40 more of what He would want like us to be. 04:42 We want to do things that will please Him 04:44 and truly show our dedication and appreciation 04:47 for who He is and what He does for us. 04:49 Well, that was a beautiful story. 04:51 That just tied in everything. 04:53 God making us holy also has to do 04:55 with His love. 04:56 You know, there is a verse in 1 Thessalonians 3:12 04:59 and 13 says that 05:01 "As we abound actually in love, 05:04 we increase in holiness." 05:07 And so the two are never separated, 05:09 they're always together but since God wants us 05:11 to make us these loving holy beings, 05:14 what parts of us does He want to do that to? 05:17 Is it just our minds? Is it just our feet? 05:20 Is it just our arms? 05:21 Is it just our hearts? It's our hearts. 05:22 It's our hearts? It's our hearts. 05:24 I think he talks about it too where, 05:25 you know, we give every member of our body into holiness. 05:30 Yeah. 05:31 One of the biggest detriments is, 05:33 you know, you mention fornication, 05:35 you know, like we have to give every aspect of us, 05:38 every part of our being, 05:39 physically and psychologically to Him 05:43 that it may be presented holy on to Him. 05:47 Every part of our being. Perfect. 05:49 That's what I like, Tim, 05:50 and I believe what Christ really wants, 05:52 like deep down inside, He wants our heart. 05:54 You know, 'cause Matthew 5 says, 05:56 "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God." 05:58 And the Bible also says that 06:00 "Out of the abundance of the heart 06:01 the mouth speaketh." 06:03 And so if God has our heart and He's changing our heart 06:05 and He's giving us a heart of flesh 06:07 instead of a heart of stone, 06:09 then all of these works 06:10 in our obedience and our actions, 06:12 they all flow out of a pure heart 06:14 because that's what God has given us. 06:16 So you're saying, God wants to... 06:18 Every member and you're saying for God 06:20 to sanctify every member, 06:22 He first has to have the heart, 06:23 the controlling factor. 06:25 Now let's not forget that. 06:26 Everybody, remember that 06:28 and we jump right into our next question. 06:31 What did God make the body for? 06:35 There's a particular Bible verse 06:37 that says the body is not for fornication 06:40 but for something else? 06:43 Does anybody know? 06:46 What does God make the body for? 06:47 It says, it's for Him. Yeah. 06:49 Okay. He made it for the Lord. 06:52 So God didn't make the body for fornication, 06:55 He made it for the Lord. 06:57 So when God's trying to sanctify us, 06:58 when He's trying to perfect our wills, 07:01 what He wants to do is get to our minds 07:03 because our body 07:04 is just an expression of what's inside. 07:06 You see? 07:08 So we can't understand God's love, 07:11 unless we have His love in our hearts. 07:12 Right. 07:14 And if we are out there 07:15 or if we are involved in things with our body, 07:18 may be fornicating and premarital sex, 07:21 it shows that we have a distorted picture of reality 07:24 of what God's love is in our hearts. 07:28 And so the body, the outward, our physical presence 07:32 is only a manifestation of what's inside. 07:35 Now I want to ask another question 07:36 and we can take some time on this. 07:38 How does fornication affect our ability 07:43 to live out God's commandments of love? 07:46 Well, first, I start off 07:47 what are God's commandments of love? 07:50 They're broken down into two parts, 07:52 who're we supposed to love? 07:54 "Love God with all of your heart." 07:55 "Love God with all of our heart?" 07:56 And there is another. 07:58 "And love your neighbor as yourself." 07:59 "And love your neighbor as ourself." 08:01 Now this is supposed to be where? 08:02 In our toes or is this supposed 08:04 to be in our hearts or in our minds? 08:05 What do you think? Both. 08:07 Both. 08:08 And so when God puts that love in my mind, 08:11 then it gets manifested in the physical world. 08:14 And so fornication is one of the biggest examples, 08:18 I guess we could say that this isn't happening. 08:22 And I want to talk about 08:25 just how fornication affects our spirituality. 08:28 I know that when I struggle with this a lot of times, 08:33 it wouldn't be that, may be necessarily, 08:36 I said I just hated God or anything or denounce God, 08:40 but it gave me a disinterest in spiritual things. 08:43 It does that. 08:45 As I think about just where... 08:48 As we talked about before, loving God, worshiping, 08:50 wanting to serve Him, 08:52 when you start doing things 08:53 that is not in relation to what God wants for us, 08:57 you start, you know, stepping back away from Him. 09:00 "Okay, God, I know 09:02 that you want me to wait until marriage, 09:03 but I really love him, I really like him, 09:06 I think he is the one" 09:07 and we're gonna get married anyways, 09:09 so why not. 09:10 But as you start engaging, 09:11 you start pushing further and further away, 09:14 you don't do your devotion every morning 09:15 like you used to do. 09:17 You used to go to church for Sabbath school, 09:18 may be I'll go for divine worship 09:20 or may be I'll go just in time for the sermon. 09:23 Like, you slowly start doing things 09:25 that is not really, 09:27 how it was before 09:29 because you know you're doing something 09:30 that's not what God wants for you 09:32 and that guilt starts coming over you, 09:34 that "Okay, I know I shouldn't be doing this 09:37 but he's so good, but then, Lord, 09:39 I love you too" 09:41 and then you feel this guilt that may be 09:42 that's even why some people don't go to church 09:44 because they have that guilt and that shame. 09:46 I know I'm not supposed to, but yet, it's fun. 09:50 But, yeah, I love guy and it's like that, 09:52 you know, twist and turn trying to figure out 09:54 what exactly it is I am supposed to be doing. 09:57 And it's almost like 09:59 when we're engaged in that pivotal moment 10:02 that we're not loving our neighbor as ourself 10:07 because we're not being selfless 10:10 but we're being selfish. 10:12 We desire something from them 10:14 and sometimes it can affect on how we view God. 10:16 We could think God's keeping something away from us. 10:19 Has anybody experienced that? 10:20 Or known people that because they want, 10:25 you know, to engage in fornication so much, 10:28 it directly affects how they think God 10:30 is managing their life. 10:32 Well, when you get into sexual sin 10:36 and when you get into just sin in general, 10:38 you begin to fall in love if I can use that word. 10:41 And then when you go to church 10:42 or when you do devotion every now 10:44 and then or when you read your Bible, 10:46 and you read that 10:48 God doesn't want you to do this, 10:50 God is asking you to do, 10:51 not do something that you really like doing. 10:54 And so now, you see God as a parent 10:56 who's trying to take something away 10:58 from you that's good instead of as a parent 11:00 who's trying to keep you away 11:02 from something that's dangerous. 11:04 And especially with fornication, 11:06 like what Brittany was saying 11:08 that it's selfish and it's not selfless. 11:11 And you're racked with all this guilt, 11:12 and all this shame, and all this remorse, 11:15 and even if you do end up marrying that person, 11:17 you have associated sex with sin, and shame, and guilt 11:23 that there is many people who even when they're married, 11:25 they can't really enjoy sex the way God wants them to 11:29 because they did it the wrong way 11:31 and in the wrong time for so long. 11:33 Wow! Wow! 11:36 And I think too what people don't understand 11:38 is that God is not just a father figure 11:42 that's just, you know, tries to put you down. 11:44 He is the one that made you, 11:46 so He knows how you gonna function, 11:48 meaning that, even science, regular science, 11:51 you know, non-Christian science is proving the fact that, 11:53 you know, when you have fornication part of you 11:55 literally goes, you know, part of your DNA goes, 11:59 you know, intermixes with the other person 12:00 that you're fornicating with, 12:01 so He already has seen, 12:04 you know, He put that in place 12:05 because He knows physiologically 12:07 and psychologically, there is more, 12:09 you know, there is a huge detriment 12:11 to your system, to your body, 12:12 to the way you think, to the way you act. 12:13 You know, now, 12:15 you're gonna associate the word love 12:17 with intermixing it with lust. 12:19 When it is intermixing with fornication, 12:21 and then anytime you need love, 12:23 you're gonna go out and find somebody to give you 12:25 that physical love 12:26 rather than the spiritual aspect of it. 12:29 Wow! I like to say something. 12:32 It was amazing what you just said how... 12:34 The Bible says that "Two shall become one." 12:37 And so when you're giving someone your body, 12:40 you're giving them a piece of you, 12:41 you're taking a piece of them as well. 12:43 But when you're doing it, the way God didn't design it, 12:47 there can be consequences to that, you know. 12:50 There's a lot of scarring, you're scarring yourself, 12:53 you know, so when we do things 12:55 the way God designed us to do it, 12:57 it's so much better, you know, it's so much... 13:00 It's beautiful, you know, and the way... 13:01 I just love the way 13:03 'cause the way He designed things, 13:04 He's a mathematical, 13:05 you know, He is a great teacher, 13:07 He's an awesome God. 13:08 So I just like the way that you broke that down. 13:11 It was amazing. That's beautiful. 13:15 I love that point. 13:16 And so it seems like kind of what you're saying 13:19 is when I engage in fornication, 13:23 it really is gonna distort 13:25 my reality of what I think love is 13:28 and what I think a marriage should be in a partnership. 13:32 And even, what I think my relationship 13:34 with God should be. 13:35 I think he should, you know, give me what this wants 13:37 'cause like you said, I'm in love now, 13:39 you know, but then now, 13:41 I know, I am doing something wrong. 13:42 And so now, I am gonna be in this almost circle 13:45 this whirlwind trying to justify my actions 13:49 in such a way 13:50 where I am distorting the beautiful stuff 13:54 as you put that God has for me. 13:56 And so, okay, I'm in fornication, 14:00 I see that it's distorting my reality, 14:02 I see it's affecting my spirituality. 14:05 Is it broken now? Is there any way I can fix it? 14:08 Can I do something different now 14:11 to mend this relationship? 14:13 What do you guys think? 14:14 I think you should start off with recognizing your sins, 14:19 you know, and the things that you're doing 14:22 because you want to realize 14:23 what is separating you from God. 14:25 He never left us. We're leaving Him. 14:28 So personally, I've been through this before 14:33 and I went into a state of depression. 14:35 And, you know, the devil, 14:36 he always like to whisper things in your ear, 14:38 you know, that your God is not there for you, 14:41 you're not a Christian, you know, all these things, 14:44 you're doing this, you're doing that. 14:46 Well, the Lord is good 14:48 because we're able to go to Him as we are. 14:54 And we should fast and we should pray for this 14:56 because it's a stronghold. 14:59 And so, yes, the Lord, 15:00 He wants us to come to Him, broken, 15:03 you know, so He can fix, 15:05 and He can mould us and heal us. 15:07 So yes, I believe 15:09 that we can be restored to God because He never left us. 15:11 He's always there for us. 15:14 Jacques, Jacq, what are some steps 15:17 that you've seen somebody else take 15:20 or you may have taken yourself, you know, finding out 15:23 they had a severed relationship with the Lord 15:26 and involved in fornication. 15:27 What are some steps 15:29 they started making back to reform? 15:31 Well, in my own personal experience, 15:32 when I came back to the Lord, 15:34 I was involved in that lifestyle 15:37 with fornication 15:38 and with an addiction to pornography, 15:40 and one thing I had to do was get, 15:42 ask God one to help me to hate what I loved. 15:48 And I think that's one of the first steps. 15:49 It's claiming the promise that found in Genesis, 15:52 take the first promise of the Bible, 15:54 where He says "I will give you enmity." 15:57 So I had to learn to hate what I once loved. 16:00 And then once that happened, 16:02 I ask God to reeducate me on what sex really is 16:06 because I feel like the best way 16:08 to fight the devil and his lies is with God's truth. 16:12 And so personally, 16:13 I started reading the Song of Solomon 16:15 and I started learning what the Bible says about sex, 16:18 and I started reading more and reading letters 16:21 to young lovers by Ellen White, 16:23 reading testimonies on sexual behavior 16:27 and all these different books 16:28 so that I get reeducated on what sex really is. 16:32 And what it really is in God's really plan. 16:35 All right, we spoke earlier, 16:36 you said, God wants to make us in His image, 16:39 and when He decided to do that, 16:40 He decided to make us male and female in His plan, 16:43 He incorporated sex in His plan for us 16:46 to be in His image. 16:48 So now that I have fornicated, it's affecting my spirituality 16:51 and, Brittany, this question is going to you. 16:53 Now I am married, and so like before, 16:56 you know, I've been in this lifestyle, 16:57 I have the guilt and shame mixed in. 16:59 How do I separate the lust and the guilt and shame, 17:03 and now coming to oneness with my spouse to where, 17:09 instead of being fornication her 17:10 to my spirituality, 17:12 it say, love relationship 17:14 and it's actually boosting my spirituality. 17:18 As I think about being married to my loving husband, 17:23 there's so much beauty in sex as married couple versus 17:29 fornication outside of that beautiful covenant 17:31 that God has in place. 17:33 And I think that's what we need to also remember. 17:35 Sex isn't bad, sex is wonderful. 17:38 It's when you're trying to do it outside 17:40 of what God intended and created it to be. 17:43 Like there are so many young couples, 17:45 they're in love with each other, 17:47 they really care for each other, they're like, 17:49 "Okay, this is our expression of intimacy" 17:52 but you're not married yet, you're not there. 17:55 So you need to spend that time 17:56 actually getting to know each other 17:58 and that's what I love about Xavier and myself. 18:01 We spent like two years 18:04 and because we weren't engaging in sex, 18:06 we were actually getting to know each other 18:08 on a different level. 18:09 And I could actually be able to safely say, yes, 18:13 I do want to marry him. 18:14 In relationship, 18:15 I was in before because we were engaging. 18:18 All like the red flags were there 18:20 but I couldn't see it because when you have sex, 18:23 you have that chemical release that allows you to intermingle 18:27 and to intertwine with that person, 18:29 and to care for that person on a different level. 18:32 So because of that I wasn't able see 18:34 all the red flags, 18:35 but when we stopped 'cause we were like, 18:37 you know, Lord wants us to stop, 18:38 we need to be on the right and narrow path, 18:41 I mean, to straighten our path. 18:43 As soon as we stopped, 18:44 it was like all the red flags started appearing. 18:47 It's started coming clear and I was like, 18:49 "Wait, we probably shouldn't be together." 18:52 And a few months later, issue was over, terminated, 18:55 done with. 18:56 Wow! Wow! 18:57 And that's basically, really how it is 18:59 because, you may be like, okay, 19:01 it is a formal expression but you may be lined it 19:04 with what really is happening in that relationship 19:07 because God intended for the chemicals 19:10 that are being released to make 19:12 that relationship tighter, to bring you guys closer, 19:15 to make it go deeper and it's worship to Him. 19:19 So when you're engaging before you're married, 19:21 you're just setting yourself up 19:23 because you don't really know who you are bonding with, 19:25 who you're becoming one with. 19:28 So it's damaging a little bit 19:31 when you do it before you get married 19:33 and it's also blinding. 19:34 So have you seen that in other relationships 19:37 in other couples 19:38 where it actually your emotions and your thoughts, 19:40 you get real blinded and you get real damaged? 19:43 I mean, I've been through in the past, 19:44 you know, and that's the issue there. 19:46 I've faced that guilt, 19:48 you know, that when I used to talked 19:49 about that guilt because essentially, 19:51 you know, I know God is gonna provide 19:52 the right spouse for me, yes, He did. 19:54 But in that process, 19:56 when I know she is the right one, 19:59 I felt guilty 'cause I was like, 20:00 I'm bringing all this baggage with me, 20:02 you know. 20:04 Yes, God restores, 20:05 but your mind doesn't get erased. 20:08 You know, the damage that you've done to it. 20:09 Yes, God removed 20:10 that emotional aspect of that hurt and heals you 20:14 but you still have that in your subconscious 20:16 where you remember the people that you were with, 20:19 you know, how is that fair to your wife, 20:22 how is that fair to your spouse. 20:24 And furthermore, you know, God created us in His image 20:26 to the point where, we have this gift of sex. 20:30 We're able to procreate. 20:33 It's a form of creation. Right. 20:34 You know, God is the creator 20:36 and He gave us the ability to procreate. 20:38 You know, it's a form of godliness to be able 20:42 to reproduce, to create a new life. 20:44 We have been given this great honor, 20:47 to be able to create life. 20:48 And we often just wasted all just to have more, 20:53 you know, more kids out there or even just wasted. 20:55 You know, it's a beautiful thing 20:57 to be able to be, you know, in this oneness 20:59 where we got be able to create like He does in that form. 21:04 I like that you said the creation part of it is 21:07 the same as godliness. 21:09 You know, really just showing how in reality, 21:12 we're opposed to be godly and the sexual relationship 21:16 is supposed to be used to that affect. 21:18 And so one of Satan's biggest plans 21:21 is to take pieces 21:23 of what God used to make us godly 21:25 and to distort him for his own purposes, 21:28 you know, whether it be sex, whether it be, 21:32 you know, just any kind of relationships 21:33 we have out there. 21:35 So I got another question. 21:37 All right, I've been in this relationship, 21:40 I have done all this stuff, 21:42 I have all this guilt and shame, 21:44 may be I'm watching the show 21:45 and I'm involved in fornication. 21:47 Am I a bad person? Is there a hope for me? 21:51 What are the kind of help 21:53 can I get to get out of the situation I am in? 21:58 One piece of advice 21:59 that I would give to that person 22:01 is make it a priority to make God a priority 22:06 because if you truly want to put God first, 22:09 then this has to stop 22:12 because we all want love, we all desire love, 22:16 God made our heart 22:17 with a hole so big that only He could fill it. 22:21 And so when we fornicate, many of us we think, 22:24 we're making love. 22:26 But making love, 22:29 the definition that I find in the scripture 22:31 is doing something that God would do. 22:35 And so if God were married and He had a wife, 22:39 He would be intimate with her physically, 22:40 so that is making love. 22:42 But if you're not married, you're not making love, 22:44 you're making sin. 22:46 And so if there is someone who's watching this 22:50 and who's interested in, 22:51 how can I get closer to God, I'm fornicating, 22:54 I'll tell them that they need to make it a priority 22:57 to make God a priority, 22:58 put themselves away from the person 23:00 or the people that they're fornicating 23:03 with and to go to God humbly in prayer 23:06 and ask for forgiveness one 23:07 'cause we have to recognize our sin 23:10 and then ask God for power to do the right thing. 23:14 Hang on, did you record it, Brittany? 23:15 Amen. Amen. 23:17 I would also add for 'cause sometimes 23:20 because you've been engaging for like, 23:22 extended period of time, 23:24 your first thing is okay, if we stop, 23:26 then what's gonna happen to the relationship. 23:29 And I would advise any person, if that person is really 23:32 who God has for you and you guys made a mistake, 23:36 I think we do know a couple, 23:38 they had engaged first and then they stopped 23:41 and they really took that time to really pray 23:43 and dedicate relationship to God 23:44 and God was able to restore. 23:46 So if you know you're in it right now, 23:49 and you stop, and you say, 23:51 "God, we know, we did this wrong 23:54 but we want to be completely yours. 23:55 Do you still want us together? 23:57 Do you want us to be on this path?" 23:59 And if God says yes, 24:01 then you can be able to move forward 24:03 and do different boundaries, have those boundaries 24:06 and all that different stuff and be able to move forward. 24:08 And if He says no, God is the priority, 24:12 you have to go your separate ways. 24:14 Wow! 24:16 So putting God first, putting in Him everything. 24:20 I want to deal with the guilt and shame real quick. 24:21 I've done this 24:23 and I feel guilty, I feel ashamed. 24:24 So I feel like, you know, 24:26 the Lord doesn't love me the same. 24:28 So I want to hear 24:29 from a male perspective Xavier and Myesha, 24:32 how do I deal with the guilt and shame now, 24:34 I've stopped my relationship, I'm putting God first, 24:37 I'm making Him the priority but I still have this heavy, 24:41 you know, almost, like, 24:43 "Man, you know, I cant believe, 24:44 I used to do this." 24:46 How do I...? 24:47 Well, what I did personally, 24:50 I took it to the Lord in prayer. 24:52 I've prayed and I've continued to pray 24:55 because not only God, 24:58 you know, He is your friend, you know. 25:01 It's so easy to go to a person 25:02 and tell them what you're going through. 25:04 But it is easy for you to go to God 25:06 and tell him how you're feeling 25:07 because your friend can't heal you but God can. 25:11 So someone told me that, 25:13 you know, when you're struggling 25:14 with depression, read your Bible, 25:17 you stick to these promises, you know. 25:19 My favorite is 25:21 "Thou wilt keep me in perfect peace, 25:23 with my mind is stayed upon thee, 25:24 because I trusted in thee." 25:26 And that is something 25:28 I will continue to have in my mind 25:31 when I'm in the state of depression 25:32 or I'm feeling guilty. 25:34 I need peace, I need joy, I need happiness, 25:37 and the only way 25:38 I will experience that is with Christ. 25:42 So I encourage to continue to pray 25:45 and read the Word of God. 25:47 Amen. Amen. 25:48 Xavier, same question from a male perspective. 25:50 Yeah, from our perspective, sometimes, I mean, 25:53 that was difficult for me, you know, it's like, 25:55 you got that testosterone, 25:56 you know, you got to go out there, 25:58 you know, and get that. 25:59 But when you actually sit back and pray about it, 26:02 how much, if you say, 26:04 if you profess you love your significant other, 26:06 do you love him enough to respect their body 26:09 and respect your own. 26:10 You know, are you willing to respect them 26:12 in their decision, 26:14 are you respecting your body too, in that sense, 26:16 in that regard, 26:17 you need to have a certain level of respect 26:19 for the other person. 26:20 You know, there is no need to go out there 26:23 and satisfy what you're getting from God. 26:27 You know, the sex aspect 26:28 is gonna come once you're married. 26:30 I'm not saying, you know, go rush to the altar 26:32 'cause now I want to have sex, 26:33 that's a whole different topic but I'm just saying that, 26:36 you know, have enough self respect, 26:39 that you know, guilt comes and it's fine. 26:41 Jesus died on the cross for the guilty. 26:43 Come now, yes. 26:44 He died on the cross for the guilty, you know. 26:46 I'm jacked up and I know that and that's okay, 26:48 that's how Jesus wants me, 26:50 He's not gonna leave me that way. 26:51 But that's how He wants me to be. 26:53 He wants me to be messed up, so I can come to Him 26:55 and He'll fix me little by little and that's the thing, 26:58 you know, take your guilt, it's okay to feel guilty. 27:00 That's called conviction and go to the Holy Spirit, 27:02 you know, go to prayer 27:04 and, you know, start working with God on that. 27:06 It's not impossible. 27:09 So we just really want you to see today, 27:11 on today's program that fornication really 27:14 does have a direct affect on your spirituality. 27:17 It'll affect the way you see people in relationships 27:19 that are intimate, 27:20 and it will also affect the intimate relationship 27:23 that God wants to have with you. 27:25 What we really want to also bring out 27:27 that no matter how guilty you feel, 27:29 no matter how shameful you feel, 27:30 it's Christ that came to take away your shame. 27:33 He came to take away your guilt and to make you a new creature 27:36 and you can start today, 27:38 being that new creature in Christ. 27:40 Where the devil meant for evil, 27:42 God always meant it for good 27:43 'cause however we're feeling inside 27:45 that's bad, 27:46 it makes us run to Christ and run to the cross. 27:49 Well, I do hope you've enjoyed our discussion today. 27:52 I just want to thank my guests 27:54 that came on the panel when I want. 27:55 And I'm Timothy Lawson, 27:57 and I want you to always remember to make pure choices. |
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