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05:12 >> Because He raised
05:14 from the dead on the third day,
05:16 let us lift this song together.
12:32 >> If you have a Bible,
12:33 let's put it to good use.
12:35 Matthew 24:14, please.
12:38 Matthew 24:14.
12:41 It's on page 667
12:43 in the red pew Bible
12:44 that's somewhere nearby
12:45 where you're at.
12:46 Page 667, Matthew 24:14.
12:51 We have been at this text
12:53 before in this series.
12:54 We're going to do so here
12:55 now again
12:57 and see it with some fresh eyes.
12:58 Matthew 24:14.
13:00 Jesus is talking about the very
13:01 end of time, our day.
13:03 And this is what He says.
13:05 "And this gospel of the kingdom
13:07 will be preached
13:08 in the whole world
13:10 as a testimony to all nations,
13:12 and then the end will come."
13:18 In other words,
13:20 what Jesus is saying here
13:23 is that there will come
13:24 one final revolution,
13:29 not a revolution of blood
13:30 or of bombs,
13:32 but a revolution of the heart
13:33 in Jesus Christ,
13:36 a revival of true godliness
13:37 among the people of God,
13:38 leading to
13:40 deep relationships with Jesus.
13:42 And it won't just stop there
13:43 on a personal level.
13:44 As we've been talking about,
13:45 revival will lead
13:46 to reformation in great ways.
13:49 There will be a massive work
13:50 done by millions
13:52 of church members
13:52 around the world,
13:53 including people right here
13:55 at Pioneer, sharing the Gospel
13:56 of Jesus Christ
13:57 in the context
13:58 of the three angels' messages
13:59 in a last triumphal push,
14:02 one final revolution,
14:05 and then the end shall come,
14:08 and we will go home.
14:15 But...
14:19 Conjunctions are important,
14:20 aren't they?
14:22 But if the global West
14:26 is going to be a part
14:27 of that one final revolution,
14:29 there will have to be
14:30 some changes in
14:31 how we do church.
14:35 Last week, in "ChurchWorks
14:36 Part 3," we looked at this idea
14:38 of ministers rule.
14:40 We looked at God's
14:40 Old Testament philosophy
14:42 of "come here"
14:43 and that God had matched
14:44 that philosophy with a simple
14:46 three-part structure.
14:47 We then looked at God's
14:48 New Testament philosophy of
14:50 not "come here,"
14:51 but "go there" and how it was
14:53 also supported by a simple
14:54 three-part structure.
14:55 And to many of our surprise,
14:57 it did not include that
14:58 structure, what are known today
15:00 as settled pastors.
15:02 Now, in case you weren't here
15:03 last week,
15:04 let me define quickly what
15:05 a settled pastor is.
15:05 A settled pastor is essentially
15:07 what we have in the West
15:09 today in the Adventist church.
15:10 And by West I mean places
15:11 like Australia, North America,
15:13 and Europe,
15:13 and so like cultured places.
15:16 That's the West.
15:18 And Adventism in the West
15:19 has essentially settled pastors.
15:22 A settled pastor is one
15:23 that stays over a church
15:24 for fairly long periods of time.
15:25 They're paid to do so.
15:27 They're the chief leader,
15:28 the primary caregiver.
15:30 They preach, they teach,
15:31 they marry, they bury,
15:32 they chair committees,
15:33 they put out fires,
15:34 et cetera, et cetera.
15:35 And we pay them to do this.
15:36 Every three to seven years,
15:37 they move on to the next church,
15:39 where they settle again and do
15:40 the whole thing all over again.
15:42 And we found that role does
15:45 not exist in the Bible.
15:47 It's not there.
15:49 And as surprising as that is,
15:51 what is even more surprising
15:53 is how revolutionary
15:54 the Adventist church
15:55 has historically
15:56 been in this regard.
15:59 In fact,
16:00 did you know so committed
16:02 was the Adventist church
16:03 to God's New Testament
16:05 "go there" kingdom structure
16:07 that by the power
16:08 of the Holy Spirit,
16:09 combined with that kingdom
16:10 structure, the way was paved
16:12 for the early Adventist church
16:14 to become the fastest growing
16:15 Protestant movement
16:16 that the world had ever seen?
16:21 Wow, not a single "amen."
16:22 I thought maybe somebody might
16:23 appreciate that.
16:24 This is a good thing.
16:25 Okay, this is a positive
16:27 development, right, in
16:28 the kingdom of God.
16:29 And this phenomenal growth was
16:31 not something
16:32 that was noted merely
16:33 by historians today.
16:35 It instead thoroughly attracted
16:37 attention while it was happening
16:39 inside the church and outside.
16:43 In fact, let me show you
16:43 something.
16:46 Early Adventist leaders,
16:48 when our work was just
16:49 getting started in the
16:50 mid-1800s, they asked
16:51 an important question.
16:52 They said,
16:53 "How shall we organize
16:54 the ministry of this movement?
16:56 How shall we organize the
16:57 ministry of this church?"
16:59 And someone said, "Hey,
16:59 I've got an idea.
17:00 Let's read the Bible."
17:02 And so they did.
17:03 And they found there,
17:05 as we found last week,
17:06 that God's
17:06 New Testament kingdom structure
17:08 had no settled pastors.
17:10 And consequently,
17:11 the Adventist church
17:12 structure also didn't
17:13 have settled pastors.
17:15 And the results
17:16 were astonishing.
17:19 Let me show you.
17:21 Wabash, Indiana,
17:22 Plain Dealer, that was
17:24 a newspaper back in the day.
17:26 Plain Dealer, October 1, 1886.
17:28 "The Seventh Day Adventists."
17:29 This is the title of the article
17:30 in that newspaper.
17:32 "The Seventh Day Adventists.
17:33 Some Facts and Figures
17:34 Gathered from Elder Starr --"
17:36 he was General Conference
17:37 president at the time --
17:38 "How They Have Grown in Forty
17:39 Years -- and What They Believe."
17:42 So this is outside
17:43 of the Adventist church.
17:44 People are looking at,
17:45 "How do you guys do this?
17:45 How do you start with
17:46 just three people,
17:47 James and Ellen White
17:48 and Joseph Bates,
17:49 and now you guys are
17:49 all over the world?
17:50 How do you do that?"
17:52 That's the question.
17:54 "By what means have you carried
17:56 forward your work so rapidly?"
17:57 the reporter
17:57 says to Elder Starr.
17:59 Answer, "'Well, in the first
18:01 place,' the elder replied,
18:03 we have no settled pastors.'"
18:05 How many?
18:06 No, not a one. Okay.
18:07 So no settled pastors.
18:08 Now, that's fascinating,
18:09 because this is
18:10 the General Conference
18:11 president, right?
18:11 He's a churchman, right,
18:13 steeped in the Bible
18:14 and ministry, et cetera.
18:15 If you asked him, "What's
18:17 the secret of your success?
18:18 How have you grown so swiftly?"
18:19 I mean, there's all kinds of
18:20 things that he could have said,
18:21 and they would have been true.
18:22 You know, "God has blessed us.
18:23 How about our name?
18:24 You know, Seventh-day Adventist,
18:25 we proclaim the Sabbath
18:27 and His soon return."
18:28 Instead, at the top of his list,
18:30 the reporter asked,
18:31 outside of the church,
18:32 "How did you guys do it?"
18:33 "No settled pastors." Hmm.
18:36 "Our churches are taught
18:37 to take care of themselves,
18:39 while nearly all of
18:40 our ministers work
18:41 as evangelists in new fields.
18:43 In the winter,
18:44 they go out into the churches,
18:45 halls, or school house
18:46 and raise up believers.
18:47 In the summer we use tents,
18:48 pitching them in the cities
18:49 and villages where we teach
18:51 the people these doctrines.
18:52 This year we shall run
18:53 about 100 tents in this way."
18:56 Even as late as 1909,
18:58 notice this -- the Seventh-day
18:59 Baptist Sabbath Recorder --
19:00 that was their official
19:01 publication.
19:02 December 28, 1909.
19:03 It says...
19:12 Wow.
19:14 No settled pastors.
19:16 And notice carefully what these
19:18 not-settled pastors are doing.
19:20 They are preaching, teaching,
19:22 and organizing churches.
19:24 This points to
19:25 an absolutely pivotal role
19:28 that non-settled pastors took in
19:30 the early Adventist church.
19:31 That was church planting.
19:33 Church planting --
19:34 starting new churches
19:35 in new places with new people.
19:38 Now, we're going to talk more
19:39 about this at a later date.
19:40 So I'm just going to
19:41 kind of skim the tops
19:42 of the mountains here right now.
19:43 But I want you to understand
19:45 how closely connected this idea
19:48 of not having settled pastors
19:50 so that
19:51 what ministers you did employ
19:53 could be planting churches
19:54 in new places with new people.
19:56 This was absolutely integral.
19:58 The connection between
20:00 not having settled pastors
20:01 and church planting
20:02 cannot be emphasized enough.
20:04 I mean, just think about this
20:05 here.
20:06 This led
20:07 in the Adventist church --
20:08 This is not speculation.
20:09 This is history, okay?
20:10 It led to more churches
20:12 being started,
20:14 which led to -- going to be
20:15 very practical here --
20:15 more tithe coming in
20:18 to hire more church planters,
20:20 which led to more new members
20:22 being baptized who
20:23 could now assist in teaching
20:24 others locally for Christ.
20:26 And thus you can begin to see
20:27 how we experienced
20:29 exponential growth.
20:30 Do you understand what I'm
20:30 saying?
20:32 If you have one pastor
20:33 who only has one church,
20:35 then the growth will be limited
20:36 to the reapings
20:37 that take place there
20:37 in that community.
20:38 But if that pastor trains
20:40 that church so that he can go,
20:41 they carry on by themselves
20:43 now, he comes back every now
20:44 and then and visits them,
20:45 just like in the New Testament.
20:46 He now goes out and he plants
20:48 new churches, okay?
20:50 And now there's two churches.
20:51 And if he keeps going,
20:52 then there's going to be three,
20:52 and then there's
20:53 going to be four.
20:54 Can you see how we became,
20:56 in the first 60 to 70 years
20:57 of our existence,
20:58 the fastest growing
20:59 Protestant movement
21:00 that the world had ever seen?
21:03 Church planting is indispensable
21:05 in the New Testament.
21:06 If you take church planting
21:07 out of the New Testament,
21:08 there essentially is
21:08 no New Testament left,
21:10 because there would have been
21:11 no churches
21:11 to write the letters to.
21:13 All of those Christians
21:14 were put into
21:16 bodies of believers --
21:17 New Testament church planting.
21:18 Every church
21:19 that you've ever set foot
21:20 in at one time
21:21 was a planted church.
21:23 It's that crucial
21:25 to the movement continuing.
21:26 And I'm just going to tell
21:27 you a little secret here.
21:28 Unless we return in the West
21:30 to the seminal practice
21:31 of church planting,
21:32 the work will never be finished.
21:35 We don't plant
21:36 many churches anymore.
21:37 That must change.
21:39 And early Adventism did this
21:41 "no settled pastor" thing
21:42 precisely so that they could
21:43 plant more churches in
21:44 new areas.
21:45 Now, there were other benefits
21:47 of having no settled pastors,
21:49 because it helped them --
21:50 it helped the church
21:51 to avoid two
21:52 great evils -- spectatorship
21:55 and spiritual immaturity.
21:56 Spectatorship
21:58 and spiritual immaturity.
21:59 Let me share with you
22:00 just a few quotations
22:02 from Adventist history
22:03 in this regard.
22:04 Review and Herald,
22:05 May 7, 1889.
22:07 She says, "Do not depend on the
22:08 ministers to do all the work in
22:10 your church and neighborhood.
22:11 The pastors must seek
22:12 the lost sheep,
22:13 and you must help them,
22:14 and while the ministers
22:15 are called to labor --" where?
22:17 Where does it say?
22:19 "In other parts."
22:20 Okay, "in other parts
22:21 of the vineyard,
22:21 the people of God
22:22 must have light in themselves."
22:24 So let's wrap this up here.
22:27 The church-planting pastor is
22:28 to go to other portions
22:29 of the Lord's vineyard.
22:30 There's still a connection back
22:31 with the church
22:32 that they planted,
22:33 but most of their time
22:34 is spent out in the new places
22:35 trying to reach new people.
22:37 And while he is gone
22:38 planting, in those days,
22:39 sorry, ladies, it was all he.
22:40 We'll get to she
22:40 in just a moment.
22:41 All hes back then.
22:42 While he was out planting,
22:44 back home,
22:45 the members were to have
22:46 "light in themselves."
22:47 Well, we know from the Bible,
22:49 you know, hide it under a
22:49 bushel, no, right?
22:51 This means they had ministry
22:52 inside the church
22:53 and outside of the church
22:55 without a settled pastor.
22:58 Notice this.
23:00 "Testimonies for the Church,
23:01 volume seven, page 18,
23:03 "God has not given
23:04 his ministers the work
23:05 of setting the churches right.
23:07 No sooner is this work done,
23:08 apparently, than it has to
23:09 be done over again.
23:10 Church members
23:11 that are thus looked after
23:13 and labored for become --" what
23:14 are those last two words?
23:17 Wow, that's offensive, isn't it?
23:18 Yeah.
23:20 If the prophets are paid
23:20 to step on our toes,
23:22 you know, five stars, right?
23:23 Okay. Why would that be?
23:25 Why would members
23:27 thus labored after become
23:28 religious weaklings?
23:28 How come?
23:34 Because God has given
23:36 every member spiritual muscle.
23:38 If you don't use it,
23:40 you lose it.
23:42 Exactly.
23:43 If the minister is doing for you
23:45 what you ought to be doing
23:46 for yourself with Jesus Christ,
23:48 you become weaker, not stronger.
23:51 Now, here's the thing.
23:52 Do you understand how opposite
23:53 this is from how we do church
23:54 in the West in Adventism?
23:57 When we look at a church,
23:58 if the church doesn't have
24:00 a pastor,
24:00 we think it's going to be weak.
24:01 Oh, if you're going to make
24:02 that church strong, you need to
24:03 send in a good pastor, right?
24:04 That's how we think in the West.
24:05 And she says
24:06 exactly the opposite.
24:07 No, if you send in a settled
24:08 pastor, it will turn them into
24:09 religious weaklings.
24:12 She continues...
24:31 Now, pause here
24:32 for just a moment.
24:35 The greatest blessing of all,
24:36 and the spirit of prophecy
24:37 addresses this many times --
24:39 The greatest blessing of all
24:40 is the final one, the outpouring
24:41 of the latter rain
24:42 of the Holy Spirit.
24:43 We've talked about
24:43 this many times here.
24:44 The Bible talks about
24:46 this, Revelation chapter 18,
24:47 this blessing that lights up the
24:48 whole planet, right?
24:49 And the reason
24:50 why this blessing is
24:51 so important is
24:52 because if we get this blessing,
24:53 all other blessings
24:54 come in its train.
24:56 You get this one right,
24:57 all the rest are going to fall
24:58 into place, to be filled
24:59 with the Holy Spirit of God
25:00 in the former
25:01 and the latter rains.
25:02 And yet she says here --
25:03 she says here,
25:05 one of the reasons
25:05 why even this great
25:07 blessing has not come,
25:09 I'm just going to be blunt,
25:09 ladies and gentlemen,
25:10 is because we depend
25:11 in the West on settled pastors.
25:15 We let other people do for us
25:16 what we ought to be doing
25:17 for ourselves with Jesus.
25:19 And she says
25:20 the blessings won't come.
25:21 God withholds them.
25:22 Why would He pour
25:23 out great power
25:24 on a broken machine?
25:27 It has to be in good shape
25:28 to handle that kind of power.
25:31 Now, sometimes today,
25:35 and sometimes even back
25:36 in those days,
25:38 a church plant would not thrive.
25:41 Most of them did.
25:42 Our church planters
25:42 did a good job.
25:43 That's how we grew
25:44 all over the world, right?
25:45 But not every plant survived.
25:47 Some of them got very sick.
25:47 Some of them
25:48 were on the edge of death.
25:50 And some people in the 1800s
25:52 said to Adventist church
25:53 leaders, "Hey, you need to
25:54 settle a pastor in that church,
25:55 'cause it's dying.
25:57 It needs a pastor
25:58 to prop it up."
25:59 Fascinating
26:00 response from Ellen White.
26:01 "Evangelism," page 381.
26:03 She says, "The churches are
26:04 dying," referring to
26:05 this handful that were,
26:07 "and they want a minister
26:08 to preach to them.
26:10 They should be taught,"
26:11 and probably should put
26:12 the word "instead" in here,
26:13 'cause that's certainly
26:13 the context.
26:14 "They should be taught instead
26:16 to bring a faithful tithe to God
26:18 that He may strengthen
26:19 and bless them.
26:21 They should be brought
26:22 into working order
26:23 that the breath of God
26:25 may come into them."
26:26 What's the breath of God?
26:28 The Holy Spirit. Exactly.
26:29 Once again, we have this
26:30 connection between settled
26:32 pastors and lay ministry
26:33 and the blessing
26:35 of the Holy Spirit.
26:36 You're going to see this again
26:37 before we finish here today.
26:39 "They should be taught that
26:41 unless they can stand alone,
26:43 without a minister,
26:45 they need to be converted anew
26:46 and baptized anew.
26:47 They need to be born again."
26:53 Now, I'm going to ask
26:53 a question of you, and this is
26:54 not a rhetorical question.
26:55 You don't have to answer
26:56 it out loud here.
26:57 But I'm telling you,
26:57 this is a genuine question,
26:58 and it has a right answer.
27:00 Okay?
27:02 Question is this -- Is she
27:03 saying that if an established
27:06 church with established
27:08 Christians requires a settled
27:11 pastor that that is a salvation
27:13 issue?
27:14 Is that what she's saying here?
27:22 Absolutely, yes.
27:26 That is exactly
27:27 what she is saying.
27:30 Because how else
27:31 do you interpret,
27:31 "Unless they can stand alone
27:32 without a minister,
27:33 they need to be converted anew"?
27:34 Well, that sounds like you're
27:35 lost without.
27:36 "And baptized anew."
27:36 Well, that's lost without.
27:37 "They need to be born again."
27:40 Absolutely, she is saying that.
27:41 Some people have thought wrongly
27:44 that when I talk about
27:45 this topic
27:46 that it's kind of this minor
27:47 bureaucratic point,
27:50 how we staff our churches.
27:51 Ladies and gentlemen,
27:52 this is a matter of salvation.
27:55 If you depend
27:56 upon a human being instead of
27:58 Jesus Christ, you will be lost.
28:01 That's a fact.
28:02 That's kind of the basic
28:03 biblical fact of
28:04 the New Testament, is it not?
28:06 That's what she is saying here.
28:07 She says, "Listen, if a church
28:08 that's been established
28:09 and there's a measure
28:10 of maturity in this group
28:11 and you still have to have
28:12 a settled pastor,
28:13 well, obviously it didn't
28:14 take the first time.
28:15 Fill the baptistery.
28:16 Dunk them again."
28:18 Because Jesus is clearly not the
28:20 head of this particular church
28:21 that she's talking about.
28:22 A human being is.
28:26 People who say Ellen White is
28:27 boring haven't read her
28:27 very much.
28:33 Perhaps one of
28:34 the most striking quotations
28:35 from Adventist history
28:36 in this regard of settled
28:37 pastors does indeed come from
28:39 the pen of Ellen White.
28:39 She wrote an article
28:41 in Signs of the Times
28:42 called "The Most
28:43 Effective Agent for God."
28:44 Signs of the Times,
28:45 January 27, 1890.
28:48 She says, "The success of a
28:49 church does not depend on the
28:50 efforts and labor
28:51 of the living preacher,
28:52 but it depends upon the piety
28:54 of the individual members."
28:55 Time-out again.
28:57 That's almost insulting
28:58 for settled pastors, isn't it?
29:00 "What do you mean
29:01 it doesn't depend on me?
29:02 This is my ball game, right?
29:04 It's supposed to be my thing.
29:05 I'm leading the charge.
29:06 All the success depends on me."
29:08 she says, no, it doesn't depend
29:08 upon the minister.
29:09 It depends on all of us.
29:11 All of us, our individual piety,
29:12 meaning our individual
29:13 commitment to Christ.
29:15 That's what makes the success
29:16 of a church or its failure.
29:18 She continues on,
29:19 "When the members depend
29:20 upon the minister
29:21 as their source of power and
29:21 efficiency,
29:23 they will be utterly powerless.
29:24 They will imbibe his impulses
29:26 and be stimulated by his ideas,
29:27 but when he leaves them,"
29:28 and in the Adventist system,
29:29 he always leaves,
29:31 "but when he leaves them,
29:32 they will find themselves in a
29:33 more hopeless condition than
29:34 before they had his labors."
29:36 And then comes what I think
29:37 is one of the most stunning
29:38 quotations in all of the spirit
29:40 of prophecy in our particular
29:42 context right now today.
29:44 She says, "I hope that none of
29:46 the churches in our land will
29:48 depend upon a minister for
29:49 support in spiritual things,
29:51 for this is dangerous."
29:56 I mean, do you understand
29:59 how opposite this is from
30:00 how we do church in the West?
30:02 Listen, no offense to anyone
30:04 who was my instructor
30:05 in the past, alright?
30:06 I've had some very good
30:07 instructors for ministry,
30:09 et cetera, over the years,
30:10 many years of training.
30:13 This is what they
30:13 trained me to do.
30:15 I was trained, almost
30:16 without exception --
30:17 there were some exceptions,
30:18 but generally I was trained
30:19 and all of my colleagues
30:20 were trained
30:21 so that people could depend
30:22 upon us for support
30:23 in spiritual things.
30:26 That's what we were called for.
30:27 That's what we thought.
30:28 That's what we were supposed
30:29 to be doing.
30:30 And here she says
30:30 exactly the opposite.
30:32 "I hope that none of the
30:33 churches in our land will depend
30:34 upon a minister for support
30:35 in spiritual things,
30:36 for this is dangerous.
30:38 When God gives you light,
30:39 you should praise Him for it.
30:41 If you extol the messenger,
30:42 you will be left
30:43 to barrenness of soul."
30:45 And just when you thought
30:46 she was going to slack
30:47 off a little bit,
30:48 she kicks it into high gear.
31:07 This is 180 degrees out from
31:09 how we do things in the West.
31:10 I mean, if a pastor is going to
31:11 be placed,
31:12 isn't this what we do?
31:13 I mean, we have interviews.
31:15 "Well, do you like him?
31:15 Do you like her?
31:16 You know, are they going
31:17 to be a good fit?
31:18 Well, I don't know.
31:18 Maybe they might not be.
31:19 Yeah, they're the one."
31:21 And she says, as soon
31:22 as that happens,
31:24 that person needs to be removed.
31:25 Send him back out to plant
31:26 more churches someplace else.
31:27 Because this particular church
31:28 needs to have exercise.
31:32 They need to grow.
31:34 They need to use what
31:35 they already have without
31:37 a settled pastor.
31:41 "Let the people go to work,"
31:42 she says.
31:43 "Let them thank God
31:44 for the encouragement they have
31:45 received and then make
31:46 it manifest that it has wrought
31:47 in them a good work.
31:48 Let each member of the church
31:50 be a living,
31:51 active agent for God,
31:53 both in the church
31:53 and out of it.
31:54 We must all be educated
31:56 to be independent,
31:56 not helpless and useless.
31:59 Let it be seen that Christ,
32:00 not the minister,
32:01 is the head of the church.
32:02 The members of the body of
32:04 Christ have a part to act,
32:05 and they will not be accounted
32:06 faithful unless they do
32:07 act their part.
32:09 Let a divine work be wrought
32:10 in every soul until,"
32:12 and notice this phrase,
32:13 "until Christ shall behold
32:15 his image reflected
32:16 in his followers."
32:18 I'm going to dive deep here
32:19 for just a moment.
32:20 Those of you that have spent a
32:21 lot of time in the spirit of
32:22 prophecy, that last phrase
32:23 should be familiar to you.
32:24 Christ beholding His image
32:26 reflected in His followers.
32:27 Tell me,
32:28 how is that usually applied?
32:30 What does it usually mean
32:31 when this quotation comes up
32:33 that Christ will see
32:33 His image reflected
32:34 in His followers?
32:35 How will He see that reflected?
32:39 Okay, I heard it -- character,
32:41 in the character of His people.
32:42 That's how this phrase
32:43 is usually used here.
32:44 And that's not a bad --
32:45 That's not a bad thing at all.
32:47 Christ wants to see us grow and
32:48 become more and more like Him.
32:49 Absolutely.
32:51 But that's not how she uses it
32:52 here.
32:53 She is saying very specifically
32:55 that if Christ is going to see
32:57 His image reflected
32:58 in His people,
32:59 they cannot depend
33:00 upon settled pastors.
33:01 That's what she is saying here.
33:03 Again, this is not a small deal.
33:05 This is a huge deal that goes to
33:08 the very root of our faith.
33:14 "Testimonies for the Church,"
33:15 volume 7, page 191...
33:27 A final quote for you,
33:29 and to me,
33:29 it is one of the most
33:30 telling quotations
33:31 from Adventist history.
33:33 And interestingly enough,
33:34 it's not from Ellen White.
33:36 It is instead from a man
33:37 by the name of A.G. Daniells.
33:39 This is from March of 1912
33:41 in Los Angeles.
33:42 There was a ministerial
33:43 institute, and if you don't know
33:44 what those are, ministerial
33:45 institutes in those days
33:46 were basically training seminars
33:48 for church planters.
33:50 Workers would gather
33:51 together in certain areas,
33:52 and they would learn new skills
33:53 or report about how things were
33:54 going out in the field,
33:55 et cetera, et cetera.
33:56 A.G. Daniells is the
33:57 General Conference
33:58 president at this time.
33:59 And so he's addressing
34:00 this institute there,
34:01 training session in Los Angeles.
34:04 To my knowledge, A.G. Daniells
34:06 never claimed to be a prophet,
34:09 but at least for one moment,
34:11 he prophesied very accurately.
34:15 Here's what he said...
35:05 That was 1912.
35:07 My words now.
35:09 In 1915, Ellen White died.
35:11 In 1920, A.G. Daniells was voted
35:13 out of office,
35:15 and the two loudest opponents
35:17 of settled pastors
35:18 were now silenced.
36:07 What do we do with this?
36:11 I mean, that's the question,
36:12 isn't it, right?
36:15 It's not a small question
36:17 at all.
36:18 What should we, Adventists
36:20 in the West,
36:21 do with this information?
36:24 I mean, think about it.
36:25 The dominant way of doing
36:26 church, the great portion of
36:27 how we spend our tithes and
36:29 offerings are steeped in a
36:30 structure that Scripture
36:32 implicitly condemns and that
36:33 the spirit of prophecy
36:35 explicitly and emphatically
36:36 and repeatedly condemns.
36:39 So what are we supposed to do?
36:44 Well, after wrestling
36:47 with this very question
36:48 for the last 25 years or so,
36:51 I believe the answer
36:52 to that question is very clear.
36:53 What should we do
36:54 about all of this?
36:57 The best we can.
37:01 The best we can.
37:05 Now, some of you
37:06 are disappointed
37:06 You expected a little
37:07 more thunder to that response.
37:08 Okay.
37:09 I'm not trying
37:11 to be coy or clever here.
37:12 I'm going to give you
37:13 some more details here
37:14 in just a moment.
37:14 The reason why I say this,
37:16 we need to do the best we can,
37:17 is because, you know, this is
37:18 not my first rodeo.
37:19 Having done this type
37:21 of presentation before
37:22 in many places, many times,
37:24 oftentimes when people see this
37:27 and they see the weight of
37:29 how far we have gotten from
37:30 where we need to be,
37:32 they look at it and say,
37:33 "Oh, it's impossible.
37:34 There's no way.
37:35 We're too far gone."
37:36 And they sit back and relax
37:37 and want to coast all the way to
37:38 the Second Coming, okay?
37:41 I want to suggest to you that's
37:42 not a God-honoring response.
37:45 If it's the right thing to do,
37:46 we ought to do it and do it
37:48 to the best of our ability.
37:49 We may not know how to
37:51 accomplish all of these things.
37:52 We may not know how exactly
37:53 everything is going to end up.
37:54 But we know what God has called
37:56 us to, and we need to do
37:58 the best that we can.
38:00 We may not always be
38:01 able to return to the ideal
38:02 in every single portion
38:03 of the world, but that we try,
38:05 that, to me,
38:06 seems non-negotiable.
38:08 And furthermore,
38:09 just because something is
38:10 difficult or seemingly
38:11 impossible doesn't mean
38:12 that Christians don't do it.
38:13 In fact,
38:14 Jesus put it something like this
38:15 in Matthew 19:26.
38:23 Absolutely.
38:24 If it's the right thing to do,
38:26 we are to do it to the best
38:27 of our ability,
38:28 and God will provide.
38:31 And just in case
38:32 you're missing the intensity
38:33 here, the facts are
38:34 that we in the West
38:36 must do something
38:39 before something is done to us.
38:41 Let me tell you
38:42 what I mean by that.
38:43 We in the West
38:44 must do something
38:45 because of the sheer fact
38:46 that the number of those
38:47 that are being physically born
38:49 are far more than those that are
38:50 being born again through
38:51 the Adventist church's ministry.
38:53 We are not keeping up
38:54 with the population by far.
38:57 We are losing precious ground
38:58 and precious time
38:59 every single day.
39:01 The devil is eating our lunch
39:02 on a daily basis.
39:04 If someone says to you,
39:05 "Hey, did you hear about
39:05 the 100,000 people
39:07 that were baptized last week?"
39:08 You tell me,
39:08 do you think it happened
39:09 in Los Angeles or Africa?
39:12 Yeah, you don't even have to
39:13 read the article, do you?
39:14 You know where that happened.
39:14 It wasn't L.A.
39:16 If someone says to you, "Hey,
39:17 did you hear about the 300,000
39:18 people baptized last year?"
39:20 which, by the way, did happen,
39:21 do you think it happened
39:22 in Chicago
39:23 or in Papua New Guinea?
39:25 Yeah, PNG for sure.
39:26 We didn't even question about
39:27 it, right?
39:28 And one of the major reasons
39:30 they get those kinds of numbers
39:31 and we in the West don't is
39:33 because we don't do
39:34 what they do, including
39:36 regarding how we structure
39:38 ministry in our churches.
39:39 So I believe the days
39:42 of the settled-pastor paradigm
39:44 are numbered in the West.
39:46 The money is
39:47 not going to last forever.
39:50 Settled pastors
39:51 are very expensive.
39:53 If you have one pastor
39:54 over 10 churches
39:55 versus one pastor over one
39:58 and then nine more over every
39:59 of those other nine churches,
40:00 I mean, you tell me.
40:00 I'm not a math whiz,
40:02 but my lack of math
40:04 wizardry still tells
40:05 me it's a better deal
40:06 to have the one pastor
40:07 over the 10, by far.
40:10 We cannot afford this habit
40:13 any longer,
40:15 and we can either choose now
40:17 to return to substantial
40:19 local lay ministry and pastors
40:20 as church planters
40:21 or we can be forced to later on
40:23 by financial reality.
40:25 And I suspect that it's
40:26 far easier to choose
40:27 such a transition than it is
40:28 to be forced to do it.
40:30 So why not be ahead of the game?
40:33 And without further ado,
40:35 let me suggest to you two paths
40:36 forward to reinstating God's
40:38 New Testament kingdom structure
40:39 in the Adventist West.
40:41 There's much more
40:42 could be said about this.
40:42 We're going to talk more
40:43 about this in future Sabbaths.
40:44 But just two things today.
40:46 Path number one,
40:48 1 Peter 2:4, please.
40:51 1 Peter 2:4.
40:54 And we're going to read
40:54 through verse 6.
40:55 It's page 815 in your red Bible.
40:57 Page 815.
40:59 1 Peter 2:4-6.
41:02 Peter here is speaking
41:03 about the foundation
41:04 for every Christian
41:05 and therefore
41:06 the only foundation
41:07 for every Christian church.
41:10 1 Peter 2:4.
41:11 It says, "As you come to him,"
41:12 and the him there is Jesus.
41:13 "As you come to Jesus,
41:14 the living Stone --
41:15 rejected by men
41:16 but chosen by God
41:17 and precious to him --
41:19 you also, like living stones,
41:20 are being built into
41:21 a spiritual house
41:23 to be a holy priesthood,
41:24 offering spiritual sacrifices
41:26 acceptable to God
41:27 through Jesus Christ.
41:28 For in Scripture it says:
41:30 'See, I lay a stone in Zion,
41:32 a chosen and precious
41:33 cornerstone, and the one
41:34 who trusts in him
41:36 will never be put to shame.'"
41:39 Let me add to that the words
41:40 of Paul here on the screen.
41:41 1 Corinthians 3:11...
41:52 The first path forward
41:53 to return to Christ's
41:55 New Testament kingdom
41:56 structure in the Adventist
41:57 West is very simple.
41:59 It's this...
42:15 Now, the words here
42:16 are chosen carefully.
42:16 Let me unpack them.
42:18 First of all, becoming
42:19 as Christ-dependent as possible.
42:21 Jesus Christ is
42:22 the chief shepherd.
42:24 He, not the local pastor,
42:25 is the rock in whom we trust.
42:27 Jesus is the foundation.
42:28 He is the source of
42:29 our power and strength.
42:30 Any good thing
42:31 that the Christian experiences,
42:32 it's from Jesus.
42:34 He is the only foundation on
42:36 which we are to build our lives.
42:39 So become as dependent
42:40 on Jesus Christ as possible,
42:42 and at the same time
42:43 become as non-dependent
42:46 as possible on the local pastor.
42:48 Notice carefully what
42:49 I didn't just say.
42:51 I didn't say become as
42:53 pastor-independent as possible.
42:57 I said become as pastor
42:58 non-dependent as possible.
43:01 And this is a key distinction.
43:04 You see, many people.
43:05 when they hear about God's
43:07 New Testament structure
43:08 not including settled pastors,
43:10 they immediately conclude
43:11 that no pastor is ever
43:13 to have any authority
43:14 in the local church.
43:16 But this is patently false
43:18 and for at least two reasons.
43:20 First, most settled pastors
43:23 that I know,
43:23 and there are hundreds of them,
43:25 and mostly we have settled
43:26 pastors in the West.
43:27 so if I know pastors,
43:28 most of them are settled,
43:29 they are very dedicated to
43:30 the Lord.
43:32 I have seen the Lord
43:33 at work in their personal lives
43:35 and in their public ministry.
43:37 Now, they may be mistaken as
43:40 to what their biblical role is.
43:41 They may not understand
43:42 the necessity of equipping
43:44 members or of church planting.
43:45 Perhaps they've never had
43:46 the opportunity to learn
43:47 these things that
43:47 we've talked about here
43:48 just this morning.
43:49 But they are dedicated to God,
43:50 and they want to do His will,
43:52 and Christian decency demands
43:54 that we treat them with respect.
43:57 Do not depend on them
43:59 for support in spiritual things
44:02 unless you're a baby believer.
44:03 Baby believers
44:04 need their parents.
44:05 But if you're an established
44:05 believer, do not depend on them
44:07 for support in spiritual things,
44:08 as we just saw the prophet say.
44:09 But do respect
44:11 them and their leadership
44:12 as workers for the Lord.
44:14 Anarchy will
44:15 not solve the problems
44:16 we have in the West.
44:19 Respect your local pastor,
44:20 settled or not.
44:24 And secondly,
44:25 the healthy reality is that
44:27 outside of the global West,
44:29 where settled pastors are few
44:30 and far between -- they're
44:30 mostly church planters --
44:32 the church-planting pastor is
44:34 to have genuine authority
44:35 in the local churches.
44:37 And the reason for this
44:38 is very clear -- It's biblical.
44:40 This is because the role
44:41 of the church-planting pastor
44:42 in Adventism,
44:43 at least historically,
44:44 is modeled
44:45 after the New Testament
44:46 ministry of the apostles.
44:50 Let that sink in.
44:51 Go back to part three
44:52 and watch it over again.
44:52 Then you'll understand.
44:53 Some lights are going to
44:53 come on.
44:55 In that New Testament structure
44:56 with apostles,
44:57 it was fully expected,
44:58 and indeed the norm,
44:59 that apostles had authority
45:00 in the local churches.
45:03 And I'll tell you what,
45:04 this is yet another piece
45:05 of astonishing reality
45:07 of the Adventist church.
45:10 Hear it and hear it well.
45:11 The Adventist church is
45:13 not a congregational church.
45:17 Do you know what
45:17 a congregational church is?
45:19 A congregational church is
45:20 where the congregation
45:21 is sovereign.
45:22 There is no outer connection.
45:23 If there is a connection
45:23 to any sort of other church
45:25 or organization,
45:26 it's very peripheral,
45:27 very kind of just suggestive
45:28 and tangential.
45:29 It's not direct, okay?
45:30 We are not
45:31 congregational churches.
45:32 We are not
45:33 a congregational church at all.
45:35 We were never intended
45:36 to be a congregational church,
45:37 and we never will be
45:39 a congregational church
45:40 unless it's over my dead body.
45:43 Instead, Adventism was built
45:46 on churches that -- Get this.
45:48 I mean, this boggles the mind.
45:49 Adventism was built on churches
45:51 that did not have settled
45:52 pastors locally,
45:53 yet those churches were fully
45:55 accountable to the wider church
45:56 through the planting.
45:57 Pastor, the apostle,
45:59 the local conference,
46:00 and the sisterhood of churches.
46:01 The result was
46:02 undoubtedly astonishing
46:04 to the rest of the world.
46:05 How, they must have wondered,
46:07 could we Adventists have
46:08 essentially no settled pastors
46:10 and yet have such unity
46:11 of message and mission among
46:13 our many thousands of churches?
46:14 Well, part of the answer was
46:15 because we're not
46:16 congregational.
46:17 We are a movement,
46:18 a global movement,
46:19 a denomination working together.
46:22 And we are clearly accountable
46:23 to one another in tangible ways.
46:25 And thus we were enabled
46:26 to be a worldwide movement
46:28 with a worldwide message,
46:30 the three angels' messages,
46:31 that could move as one body
46:33 united in Christ
46:34 to prepare the world
46:35 for His soon return.
46:37 I mean, it must have just
46:38 boggled people's mind
46:39 that they could do that,
46:39 because their organizations were
46:41 kind of, you know,
46:41 very independent, you know,
46:43 whole American spirit.
46:44 "We can do it ourselves.
46:45 Don't bother us" kind of thing.
46:46 And yet the Adventists had
46:47 this measure of independence,
46:48 and they were also all one
46:49 together, biblically
46:51 accountable to one another.
46:52 I mean, powerful stuff.
46:54 And most of the Adventist world
46:56 outside of the West
46:57 is still structured this way.
46:59 It is high time
47:01 that the West rejoined them.
47:04 And to that end,
47:04 each of us must become
47:05 as dependent on Christ
47:06 as possible,
47:08 while also becoming as pastor
47:09 non-dependent as possible.
47:12 Now, to be clear,
47:15 remember what I said
47:16 at the beginning.
47:17 We need to do the best
47:18 that we can with this.
47:20 That means
47:21 that some places are
47:22 going to have results
47:22 that look different
47:23 than other places.
47:24 Some places
47:25 are going to implement this
47:26 New Testament structure
47:27 a little bit differently.
47:28 For instance, here at Pioneer,
47:30 a return to God's
47:31 New Testament kingdom structure
47:33 will not include
47:34 the pastors leaving.
47:41 Some of you are disappointed,
47:42 aren't you?
47:42 Yes.
47:45 After second service last week
47:47 at the door,
47:47 someone came over and greeted me
47:48 and said, "It's been wonderful
47:49 having you as our pastor.
47:50 We're going to miss you."
47:51 Okay.
47:55 Now, we chuckle, and I
47:57 understand.
47:58 It's actually a quite important
48:00 point, because, again,
48:02 having presented on this topic
48:03 in a number of places,
48:04 a number of people and times,
48:05 often what comes up
48:06 immediately is, "Oh,
48:07 Pastor Shane,
48:08 you're a settled pastor.
48:10 Here you're telling us
48:11 all this stuff from history,
48:12 settled pastors are bad,
48:12 but you're one.
48:14 How do you deal with that?"
48:16 They always
48:17 think they've got me, okay?
48:18 And probably for the first two
48:19 or three years, they did.
48:20 I didn't have a good answer,
48:21 but that was 20 years ago.
48:22 So let me tell you
48:23 what I tell them now.
48:25 The truth is that
48:26 early Adventism
48:27 in the late 19th century
48:28 did make some provision
48:30 for settled pastors in
48:31 a handful of very specific
48:32 contexts, namely large
48:35 institutional churches.
48:37 A.G. Daniells, did you catch
48:38 that in his quotation?
48:39 He says, you know, "As a general
48:40 rule, we've held ourselves
48:41 ready for field service,
48:42 but we have appointed pastors.
48:43 We have elected pastors
48:45 in certain places."
48:46 Those certain places were
48:47 large institutional churches.
48:48 This is places
48:49 like San Francisco.
48:50 This is places
48:51 like Battle Creek.
48:52 Eventually the Los Angeles
48:53 area had a couple of them.
48:55 This was a conscious,
48:56 calculated decision,
48:57 an exception based on,
48:59 to the best of my research,
49:01 on two needs needing to be met.
49:03 Number one,
49:04 in this unique environment
49:05 of large institutions,
49:07 there is a need for continuity.
49:09 Turnover is high, right,
49:11 by definition.
49:11 We have students, you know, come
49:12 for a semester
49:13 or come for six years.
49:14 You know, graduation's
49:15 happening regularly.
49:16 There's all kinds of turnover,
49:16 right?
49:17 We have staff and faculty
49:19 and workers that are here.
49:19 There's turnover
49:20 amongst them, too.
49:21 If there's going to be
49:22 continuity in the church of
49:23 mission and worship,
49:25 they decided, we need to settle
49:26 pastors over those places.
49:28 A second need
49:29 that these large institutional
49:30 settings brought that
49:32 had to be met was complexity.
49:34 There was a need to deal with
49:35 complexity.
49:36 Our large institutional settings
49:38 had literally thousands
49:39 of people at them --
49:39 they still do today --
49:41 leading to organizational
49:42 challenges far more complex than
49:44 the average non-institutional
49:46 church would ever face.
49:47 And so we made an exception.
49:49 We said, okay,
49:50 we're going to take the risk
49:51 and we're going to settle
49:52 pastors over these churches.
49:55 But notice this carefully.
49:57 Which churches
49:59 received the most heat
50:01 from Ellen White's pen?
50:05 What's at the top of the list?
50:07 Battle Creek. Exactly.
50:09 The locus of the work for
50:10 many, many years.
50:11 Coincidence? I think not.
50:15 In fact, this calculated risk --
50:19 Let me just address my
50:20 fellow institutional pastors
50:21 as one of your own, if you
50:23 happen to be watching right now.
50:24 To my fellow
50:25 institutional pastors,
50:26 every day we play with fire.
50:29 Every day we run the risk
50:31 of making our members
50:32 more dependent on us
50:33 and less dependent
50:34 on Jesus Christ by the simple
50:36 fact that we are there day
50:37 after day after day.
50:39 And in the final judgment,
50:40 God will ask we
50:42 institutional pastors this --
50:43 "Did you equip your people
50:45 to depend on Jesus
50:46 as much as possible
50:47 and to do the ministry
50:48 I called them to do?
50:50 Or did you just entertain
50:51 them week after week
50:52 and then sent them home
50:53 as if they had nothing further
50:54 to do for the kingdom?"
50:57 That's what He's going to ask
50:57 us.
50:59 So be careful.
51:00 You're playing with fire.
51:03 So, no, we Pioneer
51:04 pastors are not leaving.
51:06 And I'm very grateful
51:06 for the pastoral staff
51:07 that we have here and many,
51:09 many good things that they do,
51:10 often under
51:11 very difficult circumstances.
51:13 And you should know
51:15 that every one of our
51:15 pastoral staff
51:16 is fully committed to doing all
51:17 that we can
51:18 to help you know Christ
51:19 as deeply as possible
51:21 and to depend on Him
51:22 while doing all the ministry
51:24 that He has called you to do.
51:28 What about churches that
51:29 aren't institutional churches?
51:31 What about those
51:32 that are smaller than this?
51:34 Well, in some places,
51:35 the settled pastor might have
51:36 the skills to go church
51:37 planting.
51:38 He or she might at least have
51:39 some of the gifts of an apostle.
51:41 Such churches
51:42 should meet together.
51:43 They should pray together
51:43 with one another,
51:44 seeking the guidance of God
51:46 to see if God would have
51:47 them send their pastor
51:48 as a missionary
51:49 to plant a new church
51:50 somewhere else
51:51 in their conference.
51:52 Now, the church
51:53 will probably need training
51:54 to be sufficiently healthy
51:56 for this, to do ministry
51:57 in the pastor's absence.
51:58 Remember, we've had settled
51:59 pastors for a long time now
52:00 in the Adventist church
52:01 in the West.
52:02 There's going to be some
52:02 training, some changes
52:03 that have to take place
52:04 so that ministry depends
52:05 upon the laity rather than
52:07 on the settled pastor.
52:08 Local programming and committees
52:09 will probably have to be revised
52:11 some to accommodate this change.
52:13 As you're praying and talking
52:15 and planning and doing these
52:16 things, meet with your
52:17 conference leadership
52:18 and see what plans can be made.
52:19 Work together with
52:20 your local conference.
52:22 I followed this plan myself
52:23 in my second district,
52:24 and I still deeply admire
52:26 the good people there
52:27 who took leadership
52:28 to new levels and in new ways
52:30 so that I could take a group
52:31 of people from that mother
52:32 church and plant my first
52:33 new church elsewhere.
52:35 In other words,
52:36 I've done this before.
52:37 It's not rocket science,
52:38 ladies and gentlemen.
52:40 Most of the Adventist world
52:41 already does this,
52:42 just a secret.
52:43 You know, sometimes --
52:45 Nobody else is listening.
52:46 It's just us, alright?
52:48 Sometimes I think in the West
52:50 that we have a nasty habit
52:51 of looking down our noses
52:53 at other portions of the world
52:55 because we think they're
52:55 more primitive than we are.
52:58 Ladies and gentlemen,
52:59 they are outstripping us by far
53:00 when it comes to kingdom growth.
53:02 They are way ahead of us.
53:04 Don't brag.
53:06 Let's roll up our sleeves
53:07 and get to work
53:08 and do the things
53:08 that God has asked us to do.
53:12 On the other hand,
53:13 if the pastor of a local church
53:15 is not gifted as an apostle
53:16 or church planter,
53:17 nonetheless do the best that you
53:19 can.
53:20 Meet together as a church.
53:21 See how you can free
53:22 up your pastor as much
53:23 as possible
53:24 to do local evangelistic work,
53:26 while training church
53:26 members to do the same.
53:27 Remember, do
53:28 the best that we can.
53:30 Whatever the case,
53:32 every church should seek
53:33 to become as Christ-dependent as
53:35 possible and as pastor
53:36 non-dependent as possible.
53:38 This is a first
53:39 and very fruitful
53:41 path forward to reinstating
53:43 God's New Testament kingdom
53:44 structure in the West.
53:49 There is a second path.
53:52 But as I look at my enemy on the
53:53 wall -- that's the clock, by the
53:56 way, right there -- this next
54:00 path deserves an entire
54:01 installment on its own.
54:02 So I'm not going to tell you
54:03 what it is until next week.
54:05 So you need to come back, okay?
54:06 But I will say
54:08 at least this much, though.
54:09 This second path is
54:10 crucial to seeing a return
54:13 to God's New Testament structure
54:14 become effective.
54:15 If you were to take outside
54:17 today all the settled pastors in
54:19 the West and just fire them all,
54:21 right, it would not lead
54:24 immediately to health amongst
54:25 our churches.
54:26 Why? Because we have bad habits.
54:29 You know, if someone has been
54:29 using cocaine consistently
54:31 and you take all the cocaine
54:32 away, they might die, okay?
54:36 We have an addiction
54:37 in the Adventist church.
54:38 It's the settled pastors, right?
54:40 The structure of
54:41 the local church in
54:42 most Adventist churches
54:42 in the West
54:43 more closely resembles
54:44 Catholicism than it does
54:45 the New Testament,
54:48 because Catholicism,
54:49 our friends the Catholics,
54:50 never left the Old Testament
54:51 priesthood.
54:52 They still have it.
54:54 That transition to the
54:55 New Testament has not been made.
54:56 We had the New Testament,
54:57 but we regressed.
55:00 If we're going to make the
55:02 transition, there's a couple of
55:03 key things that have to be in
55:04 place in order for pastor
55:05 non-dependency to come to pass.
55:07 One of those
55:08 is absolutely crucial.
55:09 I hope by now you're asking
55:10 yourself some questions.
55:12 How is it
55:14 that the early Adventist church,
55:16 in the absence
55:17 of settled pastors,
55:19 still managed to become
55:21 the most prolific,
55:22 the fastest growing
55:23 Protestant movement
55:24 that the world had ever seen?
55:26 How did they do that
55:28 without settled pastors,
55:29 you know, urging them on
55:30 or keeping them corralled
55:30 or whatever?
55:32 I'll tell you next week.
55:33 I hope you can be here,
55:34 'cause it's good stuff.
55:37 I leave you
55:38 with the words of Jesus.
55:40 Jesus said, Matthew 24:14...
55:48 Ladies and gentlemen,
55:49 that's not just a prophecy.
55:50 It's a promise.
55:52 It is going to happen.
55:55 It doesn't matter if you or I
55:56 can sit down and imagine, well,
55:57 how can the Laodicean
55:58 nature of the church in the West
55:59 possibly be resurrected?
56:01 That's not our concern.
56:02 We are to do the best
56:03 that we can with what we know
56:05 of God's will for us.
56:06 He will provide.
56:07 Our God is the God of truth.
56:09 And if He has said
56:11 there's going to be a revival,
56:12 there's going to be
56:13 reformation,
56:14 the Gospel is going to go
56:15 to all the world,
56:16 then I want to be there,
56:17 'cause it's going to happen.
56:19 I don't want to have to die
56:20 first and watch the video
56:21 during the millennium.
56:21 I want to be a part of it
56:22 right now, okay?
56:24 And I want you to join me.
56:25 Let's go together
56:26 into this final revolution.
56:30 May the final revolution
56:32 soon become our reality
56:34 by the grace and
56:35 power of Jesus Christ.
56:43 >> Have you ever wondered what
56:44 Jesus was like when He walked
56:45 on this planet 2,000 years ago?
56:48 Have you ever wondered
56:49 where He traveled,
56:50 who He talked to,
56:51 who His friends were,
56:52 what His family was like?
56:54 Or have you heard about the
56:55 astonishing miracles that
56:56 Jesus did, like feeding 5,000
56:59 people with just five loaves of
57:00 bread and a couple of fish
57:02 or giving sight back
57:03 to a man born blind?
57:05 What would it have been like
57:07 to be there with Jesus
57:08 in those unprecedented days?
57:11 I hold in my hands a free book
57:13 that I'd like to give to you.
57:14 It's called "The Desire of
57:16 Ages," and it's one
57:17 of the finest biographies
57:18 of Christ ever produced.
57:20 It goes into incredible detail
57:21 of who Jesus was,
57:23 what His life was like,
57:24 who His enemies were, and what
57:26 His followers were like,
57:27 and, of course, ultimately
57:29 how He died on the cross
57:30 and rose from the grave
57:32 to give freedom to people
57:33 just like you and me.
57:35 "The Desire of Ages" can be
57:36 yours for free by calling
57:38 877-HIS-WILL.
57:40 That's 877-HIS-WILL.
57:43 Jesus is the most influential
57:45 person in all of human history.
57:48 You owe it to yourself
57:49 and those you love
57:50 to find out who He really was.
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