Prophecy Unsealed

What Is Hell-Fire Really All About?

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00:01 What do the mysterious images of Daniel and Revelation mean? When
00:06 will the antichrist appear and make his final move. How can I
00:12 be ready for the final events of earth's history? You'll be
00:16 amazed and encouraged by what the Bible reveals. Join us as
00:20 Pastor Brian McMahon leads out in Prophecy Unsealed.
00:31 Welcome back to another segment of our Prophecy Unsealed seminar
00:34 Our subject this evening we've entitled What is Hell Fire
00:39 Really All About? Now I'd like to make just a little
00:42 preliminary statement about our method of study here at the
00:47 Prophecy Unsealed seminar. I'm sure you've noticed by now that
00:50 we use a lot of scripture. Sometimes 30 or 40 or more
00:54 verses and there's a reason we do this friends. I don't believe
00:58 you can get all the truth on any one subject out of just one
01:01 verse of scripture. However, often whole arguments or beliefs
01:05 are built around just one or two texts and that is not the way
01:09 that we should study the Bible. The Bible says in effect that
01:12 the way we should study is to gather as many verses on the
01:16 subject together as we possibly can. Look at them as a whole and
01:20 then if it may seem that there is a contradiction we'll see
01:24 very clearly that that contradiction is only in our own
01:26 mind, it isn't in the scriptures For example, in our earlier
01:30 study we had the study of death we found that there are hundreds
01:33 of texts on that subject that say the dead are asleep, the
01:36 dead know not anything, they do not praise the Lord. It is just
01:41 over and over again. When you have that many texts on a
01:45 particular subject it is just absolutely clear what the Bible
01:48 is actually saying. And that method must be followed in a
01:54 subject like we have for this evening. Many times people have
01:58 taken a verse as they do on this subject and they build a whole
02:01 doctrine around it. And so we have to ask the question as we
02:05 begin tonight what kind of God do we serve. The Bible says God
02:10 is love and I believe that don't you friend? Amen. So we should
02:14 be able to see a God of love even in the subject of hell fire
02:17 The devil has caused people to take a few texts, misunderstand
02:22 them and take them out of their context and they have caused God
02:26 to be seen as a God who delights in torture. So let's again go
02:30 to this subject by first looking at a couple of covers of some
02:34 magazines that have come out. Here is one from the US News and
02:37 World Report. It's called The Rekindling of Hell shows that
02:39 people have an interest in it which is why the magazine covers
02:43 are following it. And then there was an article from the USA
02:44 Today Newspaper and it said basically: Hell. What is it all
02:51 about. They said 48 percent of them say it's a real place where
02:55 people suffer eternal fiery torment and 46 percent people
02:58 in the poll said hell is simply an anguished state of existence
03:01 rather than an actual place, 52 percent of adults say they're
03:06 certain there is a hell and then again from US News and World
03:09 Report, if you thought that those were strange here they
03:12 have a picture of what is supposedly Satan, the devil,
03:15 and it's called Hell, a new vision of the underworld or the
03:18 netherworld and here they have Satan as a host in kind of an
03:22 aloha shirt like he's welcoming people into a place of paradise
03:25 He's got those reclining in the background in lounge chairs
03:29 getting served cocktails. He's got people in the upper right
03:32 They're playing some kind of beach volleyball as if it really was a
03:35 vacation resort. What a twisted was of representing hell fire.
03:38 Then from Time Magazine: What If There Is No Hell? Again, they
03:42 don't know. Ministers are confused and therefore their
03:46 congregations are confused but as always we're going to go to
03:48 the Bible tonight and ask the question: What does the Bible
03:50 really have to say? We're going to look a various things tonight
03:55 But the word Hell or Hell Fire is used 54 times in the Bible.
04:01 Where does it come from? Well there's a word in the Old
04:05 Testament Hebrew Sheol
04:06 and a New Testament equivalent in the Greek is Hades and they
04:10 both together mean the grave. They're used 41 times.
04:12 There is another
04:14 word in the New Testament Gehenna which means a place of
04:18 burning or where a lost person will burn and that's used 12
04:21 times. So together that's 53. Where's the 54th time? In this
04:25 verse right here where it says: For God spared not the angels
04:28 that sinned but cast them down to hell and delivered them into
04:31 chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment. So this
04:34 word hell here simply means a place of outer darkness.
04:36 So that's the 54th time. But for the sake of our study tonight
04:40 we're going to be concentrating primarily on this first word
04:43 gehenna which means a place of burning. Where did it actually
04:47 come from? That word gehenna is taken from a phrase the valley
04:50 of Hinnom. In ancient Jerusalem there was a deep valley
04:54 basically used as a garbage dump and they would throw refuse in
04:59 there and carcasses in there and the fires were continually
05:02 stoked and what the fires did not burn the worms would eat
05:05 So it basically was a place of total destruction. And the
05:09 ancients looked upon that place as basically an example of what
05:12 would happen to the wicked at the wicked at that end of time.
05:14 So we should first understand if we look at this topic that
05:17 there is a place called hell, a place that I don't go and I
05:22 don't want to go and I know you don't want to go. How earnest we
05:25 should be to make sure we find the right way, amen? So make no
05:29 mistake about it, friends. There is a Bible picture of hell fire
05:33 that we want to make sure we understand. Some questions about
05:35 hell though are these? When exactly does hell fire occur?
05:39 That is confusing to many. Is it a hot spot that's going on in
05:42 the center of earth right now? How long does hell fire last. We'll
05:46 get to that tonight. How can a loving God destroy those whom
05:49 he loves? So let's look at the first question here. When does
05:53 hell fire occur? Many have believed that Jesus taught
05:56 that there's a disembodied soul that flies off from the body at
06:00 death either to a place of reward if they have been found
06:04 righteous or a place of punishment if they have been
06:07 found evil. Now you can't blame Jesus for a teaching like that.
06:08 If you want an example of what Jesus said we'll go here to
06:14 Matthew 5 and verse 30. And here Jesus says: And if thy right
06:18 hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast if from thee: for it is
06:22 profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, which
06:25 means one of they body parts should perish, and not that thy
06:28 body should be cast into hell. So Jesus taught that it's not
06:32 some kind of invisible thing called the soul that goes off
06:35 but the actual person itself. Let's go to another example of
06:39 that in Revelation 20 and verse 15. And here it says: And
06:43 whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast
06:46 into the lake of fire. So again it's the whole person that was
06:51 cast into the lake of fire not some kind of vapor entity that's
06:54 called the soul. Now again let's go to the Bible and let's see
06:58 what does the Bible say about the timing of hell fire. Matthew
07:02 13 verse 36. Jesus is telling a parable here and it says: Then
07:07 Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his
07:09 disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of
07:13 of the field. He answered and said unto them, He
07:16 that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; the field is the
07:19 world; the good seeds are the children of the kingdom; but the
07:23 tares are the children of the wicked one; the enemy that sowed
07:25 them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; let's
07:27 pause there friends. The harvest is when? The end of the world.
07:31 Sure. And the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares
07:36 are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end
07:40 of this world.
07:41 now think about it, friends. How unjust would it be for an
07:44 earthly judge to sentence someone to punishment before
07:47 their trial had occurred, right? Now an earthly judge wouldn't
07:50 want to do that. And neither would God because God is a lot
07:53 more fair than any earthly judge is, so God doesn't send
07:55 his people to some kind of punishment before the judgment
07:58 has finished taking place. The Bible teaches clearly that the
08:02 punishment becomes after the time of the judgment. Then in
08:06 verse 41 it says: The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and
08:08 they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend
08:12 and them which do iniquity; and shall cast for them into a
08:14 furnace of fire, that is again another term for the lake of
08:18 fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. And then
08:21 again in verse 49, it says "So shall it be when? At the end of
08:26 the world. So once again over and over Jesus taught that the
08:30 punishment that comes to the wicked is at the end of time.
08:33 Here is Matthew 16 and verse 27 is one of my favorite verses. It
08:38 says: For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father
08:41 with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according
08:45 to his works. Now this is again what I call one of those when/
08:48 then texts. When something occurs then something else
08:53 occurs. So it says: When the Son of man shall come in the glory
08:56 of his Father with his angels. Has that happened yet friends?
08:58 No. So the latter part cannot have happened yet for it talks
09:01 about people being rewarded according their works. So
09:06 because Jesus hasn't come in all his glory the rewards have not
09:08 yet been handed out as they will be. We know as we've studied
09:12 already, the wicked living are cut down by the glory of the
09:15 Lord when he comes. And then we're told that they sleep the
09:19 sleep of death for a 1000 years. We've already covered that in
09:21 one of our studies. And then after that, they have a
09:25 resurrection. So this much we know for sure Hell fire must at
09:30 least be 1000 years away. Because it happens at the end
09:35 of the 1000 years or what we call the millennium. Let's look
09:38 at 2 Peter 2 verse 9. It says: The Lord knoweth how to deliver
09:42 the godly out of temptations, that's good news, isn't it? In
09:46 fact we're going to have a message in this series of
09:47 messages that talks about how to be delivered out of
09:49 temptation but that's for a future date. And to reserve the
09:53 unjust, reserve means he's holding back, unto the day of
09:56 judgment to be punished: So it says God knows how to reserve or
10:01 to hold back the wicked unto a certain time and that certain
10:05 time is called the day of judgment. So we know from that
10:10 that nobody is being sentenced at this time. 2 Thessalonians 2
10:15 and verse 8. Let's go through a little bit of summary here that
10:18 we covered of night three and night four. Let's go through it
10:21 quickly. It says when the Lord comes: Whom the Lord shall
10:25 consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with
10:27 the brightness of his coming. So Jesus' coming is so glorious
10:31 that the wicked are consumed by it if they haven't already died
10:35 previous to that. And then Revelation 20 verse 5 says: The
10:37 rest of the dead lived not again until the 1000 years were
10:40 what folks? Finished. So the dead remain dead for the 1000
10:44 year period of time. Paul says in Acts 24:15 that there will be
10:48 a resurrection of the just and of the unjust. Sure. So we'll
10:52 put that graph back up on the screen and here we find the 1000
10:55 years. It is framed by two great events called resurrection. We
10:59 find the righteous come up in the first resurrection. The
11:03 wicked or the lost come up in the second resurrection. The
11:04 second coming is the event that triggers the first resurrection
11:07 and the Holy City descending out of heaven comes at the end of
11:11 the 1000 years and that triggers the second resurrection. So the
11:15 question now comes to us, if the wicked who have died are not in
11:18 hell fire yet then where exactly are they? Well the Bible gives
11:24 it to us this way folks. It says: Marvel not at this: These are
11:27 the words of Jesus. For the hour is coming in which all that are
11:29 in the, where are they? All that are in the grave will hear his
11:34 voice and shall come forth; coming forth means they will be
11:37 resurrected. They that have done good, unto the resurrection of
11:40 life; and they that have done evil unto the resurrection of
11:43 damnation. So the word damnation here in the Greek is a word that
11:48 means judgment, right? They're going to come forth in the
11:51 resurrection of judgment. The wicked are in the graves and
11:55 there they remain until this one called the resurrection of
11:58 damnation. So Jesus speaks about two respective resurrections.
12:01 Revelation 20 tells us there's a 1000 years in between them. Now
12:07 let's go back to the Old Testament here. Remember the
12:08 Old and the New perfectly complement each other. Job says
12:13 Have ye not asked them that go by the way? and do you not know
12:15 their tokens, that the wicked is reserved, he uses the same word
12:19 that Peter used, that they are reserved to the day of
12:22 destruction. And you see the word destruction folks? You're
12:24 going to see that word quite a bit tonight. It's the day that
12:28 the wicked are punished called the day of destruction. They
12:30 shall be brought forth, another word for brought forth is
12:33 they'll be resurrected, to the day of wrath. So the wicked are
12:37 reserved to a time of destruction and they'll be
12:40 brought forth to that day called the day of wrath. Job 21 verse
12:44 32. What's going to happen in the meantime? It says: Yet he
12:47 shall be brought to the grave and remain in the tomb. So we've
12:53 seen this in various other verses. The wicked are brought
12:54 to the grave. There they remain until their resurrection occurs.
12:58 so the whole teaching of scripture, folks, is in harmony
13:01 with this subject. The unsaved remain in their graves until...
13:08 they're sleeping the sleep of death...until the second
13:10 resurrection. Then they're brought forth to be punished.
13:12 Peter says it this way. 2 Peter 3 verse 7: But the heavens and
13:16 the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store,
13:20 reserved as the fire against the day of judgment and perdition,
13:23 perdition means destruction, of ungodly men. So Peter says the
13:26 heavens and the earth are going to be used to destroy ungodly
13:32 people. Let's go take a look and see how exactly that plays out
13:35 here. Revelation 20 verse 9: And they went up on the breadth of
13:37 the earth and compassed, which means surrounded, the camp of
13:40 the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down
13:44 from God out of heaven and did what, folks? Devoured them. Now
13:48 remember that term devoured because I'll probably come back
13:53 to that. Hell fire is more than just a place. Hell fire is an
13:57 event. Think of it that way. It's an event that occurs in a
14:01 series of events after, of course, Jesus comes. We're
14:04 going to go through all these things together. And it's called
14:07 the second death. Now again why do we know that the resurrection
14:10 of the wicked is at the end of the 1000 years. It's called the
14:14 second death and there can be no second death, think about it
14:17 with me, until there first is a second life. So do we find that
14:22 every last person is resurrected at the end of the 1000 years.
14:25 They come before the throne of God, Revelation 20:11-14, they
14:29 understand why they are justly excluded from heaven. When their
14:33 punishment is given they are in the lake of fire and there it is
14:39 consuming flame envelops the great army of Satan destroys
14:42 them from the face of the earth. Just as the ark of Noah was
14:48 safely guarded by God as the world was destroyed by water the
14:53 first time, so the righteous are in the Holy City and they are
14:56 safely guarded by God while the world is destroyed a second time
14:58 not by water, but of course by fire. So the New Jerusalem is
15:03 going to ride the fires of hell there and they will be
15:06 absolutely safe. So this is the Bible picture of hell fire
15:08 friends. It's not located in some subterranean place of
15:12 darkness that you often read about and hear preached about.
15:14 The fire that destroys the wicked has a dual purpose. It
15:19 not only consumes sin but it sterilizes the world. I like
15:24 that word. It sterilizes it in preparation for what God is
15:27 going to do next. And God is going to do a wonderful thing.
15:28 He's going to make it all brand new again. So we know hell fire
15:32 is going to burn at the end of the world and that prepares us
15:36 to ask the question: How many people are suffering in hell
15:39 fire tonight? How many? None, that's right. You know I was in
15:44 Fortworth, Texas one time, and I was driving along. I remember I
15:48 had the radio on and I was listening because there was a
15:52 southern preacher there and he was preaching on this topic of
15:54 hell fire. I said okay I'm going to listen and see what he has to
15:58 say. So I was listening and this is what his sermon went like.
16:01 He said some geologists from Texas went out to drill for oil.
16:05 And he said they drilled so far into the earth that they drilled
16:08 right down into hell fire. And he said when they pulled up the
16:11 drill it created this chasm and it said the screams of the
16:15 damned filtered up through this hole and they drifted out onto
16:17 the surface of the earth and it said they heard the wales and
16:20 the cries and the screams and it drove those geologists crazy.
16:23 I thought to myself Hmm I wonder what version of the National
16:28 Inquirer magazine he got that story from right. No Bible right
16:32 No texts of scripture. Just a story. Now folks we can't listen
16:38 to stories like that because those are the kinds of stories
16:41 that lead people totally away from the truths of subjects.
16:45 Revelation 20 verse 6: Blessed and holy is he that has part in
16:48 the first resurrection. You can see why blessed and holy
16:52 because that's the one for the saved right there. But God is a
16:55 God of order. He's a God of love He's a God of mercy but he's
16:59 also a God of order. And here we find that first the wicked are
17:03 brought out of their graves. Then they face their judgment.
17:07 And then they're punished in the lake of fire. So there's a
17:10 logical order to it. Revelation 21 verse 8: The the fearful, and
17:14 unbelieving, and the abominable, and murders, and whoremongers,
17:17 and sorcerers and idolaters, and all liars shall have their
17:20 part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which
17:23 is the what again friend? The second death. So the Bible
17:28 stresses that it is the second death which is the one which the
17:33 wicked are going to experience. The righteous never experience
17:36 the second death friends. They can experience the first death
17:39 which is called a sleep because there's an awakening from that
17:42 sleep. But the second death is only for the wicked. Now that
17:46 leads us to this question: Where will hell fire occur? Well we
17:49 basically already answered it. We know how large the lake of
17:53 fire's going to be. The lake of fire is going to be just as wide
17:55 and just as deep as this world is. It's going to be this world
17:59 sterilized before it is made brand new again. Now let's go
18:04 see what it says about making that world brand new. Revelation
18:08 21 verse 1. It says: And I saw a new heaven and a new earth:
18:11 for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away:
18:14 Where did the first heaven and the first earth pass away friend
18:17 It passed away in the lake of fire, right? And so now God is
18:20 going to make it brand new. So let's now look at this question:
18:24 How long will hell fire burn? Really this is the major
18:26 question for tonight because this is the one the majority of
18:31 people get hung up on. There's another way of asking this
18:33 question by the way. And that would be how complete is the
18:36 destruction of the wicked? There's so much confusion on
18:38 this point because the devil has taken a few words of scripture
18:42 taken them out of their context and caused people to believe
18:45 something totally different than what the Bible actually says.
18:48 Thought we do not know the exact length of time the wicked are
18:55 going to suffer in the lake of fire. This one we do know
18:57 friends. It will not be for the ceaseless ages of eternity. Now
19:02 why do we know that? We're going to go to the Bible and get a lot
19:05 of verses but here are a couple reasons why right off the bat.
19:06 Number one We've just read that the world is going to become a
19:11 lake of fire and then God's going to make it brand new again
19:14 Now how is God going to make it brand new again if the fires
19:18 never go out? Right? I mean there's no way God can make this
19:21 world brand new and recreate it if the fires of hell never cease
19:24 if it's going to be as the Bible says right here on the surface
19:27 of the earth. That's reason number one. Reason number two is
19:29 we studied in a previous night that mankind is not naturally
19:35 immortal. Immortality is something that is given man at
19:37 the time of the second coming as a reward for being faithful to
19:40 Jesus, right? And so how could the wicked suffer for eternity
19:44 in hell fire if they've never been given immortality? I mean
19:49 the only way that you could burn forever is if you live forever,
19:51 right? And nowhere does the Bible ever say that the wicked
19:55 will live forever. Let's go if we would be Genesis 3:22: And
19:59 the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to
20:03 know good and evil: and now lest he put forth his hand, and take
20:07 also of the tree of life, and eat, and live, what? Forever.
20:12 So God says because man has sinned we can't let him have
20:15 access to the tree of life because if he continued to eat
20:19 of it, he would keep living, right? And so God barred the way
20:22 to the tree of life and he sent Adam and Eve from the Garden of
20:25 Eden. Here's one from 1 John 3 and verse 15, it says: Whosoever
20:30 hateth his brother is a murder: and you know that no murder hath
20:35 eternal life abiding in him. How could a murderer live for
20:38 eternity if he didn't have eternal life? Again it's an
20:41 impossibility. The idea folks that mankind is immortal and
20:50 that hell fire goes for eternity both are pagan doctrines, both
20:55 were never intended to become part of Christian doctrine.
20:58 Because it's the idea...they both have kind of a...they build
21:02 on one another. It's the idea that mankind is immortal and
21:05 that you can never kill the soul that causes people to believe
21:10 that hell fire must be fore eternity because they reason it
21:13 out this way: They say if the soul can never die, if it can
21:16 never end and if it goes to hell fire then hell fire must be for
21:21 eternity because the soul is immortal and cannot die, right?
21:24 So it's basically a case of one false doctrine being built upon
21:28 the back of another false doctrine. Both were never
21:31 intended to be part of Christian teaching. So let's go take a
21:34 look now if you would at Romans 6; this is one of the most
21:38 common verses that people know and they memorize. It says: For
21:43 the wages of sin is, what does it say? Death, right? But here's
21:48 how many people read it. They say but the wages of sin is
21:50 everlasting life in the fires of hell. It doesn't say that does
21:53 it? It says the wages of sin is death, the opposite of life. But
21:56 then it goes on but the gift of God is eternal life through
21:59 Jesus Christ our Lord. Notice both ways don't lead to life.
22:02 One way leads to life and the other way leads to death. There
22:06 is no place in the Bible, friend that the wicked are given
22:10 eternal life. There's only two sides in the great controversy.
22:14 It's eternal life with Jesus and it's eternal death with Satan,
22:17 amen? God is not going to bestow his priceless gift of eternal
22:21 life, not even upon the wicked that they might suffer for
22:24 eternity. No way. It doesn't say that in scripture. What are the
22:28 two choices that we see in the Bible? And there are only two.
22:32 Here it is: Matthew 7 verse 13, Jesus says: Enter ye in at the
22:35 strait gate: For wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that
22:39 leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: So
22:42 that's the one way. Because strait is the gate, and narrow
22:45 is the way, which leadeth unto, what folks? Life, right? And
22:50 few there be that find it. So notice again. Jesus only shows
22:52 two ways and there's only one way that leads to life. There
22:55 isn't another way that leads to eternal life in hell fire. So
22:59 one way leads to life, the other way leads to destruction or
23:02 death. You've got to overlook the obvious really to see
23:05 anything else. How can the wicked live for eternity if they
23:09 have no connection with Jesus? Okay, let's keep going here. John
23:13 3:16. You know this is a great verse to read on this one
23:16 tonight because this is one of the most beloved verses of
23:20 scripture isn't it? John 3:16. But this one, even though it is
23:24 so well-known and so well memorized it teaches what we're
23:28 instructing tonight and yet people miss it. It says: For God
23:32 so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
23:35 whosoever believeth in him should not what friend? Perish.
23:38 And the word there literally means destroy. But have
23:41 everlasting life. Here we see again friends that there is only
23:48 two ways. Now it is sometimes argued by people that the wicked
23:53 receive eternal life, a very, very low quality of life but
23:57 they still have eternal life. But again where in the Bible
23:59 does it say that? They're trying to assume something upon the
24:02 text that it simply doesn't say. Psalm 37 verse 20 and verse 10.
24:06 How are the wicked going to perish? They're going to perish
24:09 according to John 3:16. How is it going to take place? It says:
24:12 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be:...But the
24:17 wicked shall perish...into smoke shall they consume away. And the
24:20 little word be there folks, it means to exist. You'll look for
24:24 them but they will not exist. Wow! Into smoke, okay? And
24:31 remember Revelation 20 verse 9 it said there that fire
24:33 came down from God out of heaven,
24:35 and what did it do to the wicked? Devoured
24:37 them, right? So what does devour mean? I went to a zoo one time
24:43 up in Canada...I mean I got kind of burnt out on zoos because we
24:48 were always trying to take our children to fun places and clean
24:52 Christian things. And so we went to a lot of zoos. Wildlife
24:55 retreats those kind of things. So I really wasn't you know
24:58 going to the zoo, but they said hey if you'll come to this zoo
24:59 we'll give you back stage pass to the lions. Okay, I'm in on
25:03 that one. So we went there and we saw all the normal things
25:06 and they said come with us. We went on the back stage and went
25:08 around to where you know the regular public doesn't go and we
25:11 went right inside where the lions are in their cages and you
25:14 could go close to the bars. I mean the lions could come up
25:18 just about three feet from you maybe even less than that and
25:22 they would roar and boy that roar, 450-pound lion, that roar
25:26 would just go right through you. Really was amazing. But
25:29 nevertheless the zoo keeper comes in with these buckets of
25:32 raw meet, right? Throws it in the lion's cage and believe me
25:34 those lions jump on it and they devour it, all right? Now I tell
25:40 you they devour it what do you think when the lions devoured
25:42 that meat, right? It doesn't mean they gnaw on it and
25:44 gnaw on it and
25:46 chew and chew and chew and it never goes away, right? When
25:48 they devour it, it is gone, amen right? When it says fire came
25:52 down from God out of heaven and devoured them, it means they are
25:56 gone. Psalms said they shall not be. Here's a verse that is very
26:01 interesting in its scope. Isaiah 1:28. It says: And the
26:04 destruction...there's that word again, it comes over and over to
26:07 us...the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners
26:10 shall be together, and they that forsake the Lord shall be
26:13 consumed. So not only are the righteous caught up to meet the
26:17 Lord in the air and they go together to be with Jesus on the
26:20 great day of the second coming. It says the wicked receive their
26:23 reward together at the time of their destruction. So not
26:28 individually at the time that they might die and go down to
26:31 hell fire that kind of thing. Again if we just let the
26:33 scriptures read for themselves. The word of God tells us the
26:35 unrighteous will be blotted from existence, they're going to be
26:39 consumed and now this next passage is wow. If it wasn't
26:43 clear enough already, Malachi, which is the last book of the
26:46 Old Testament, chapter 4 and verse 1, this passage really
26:51 makes it clear folks. It says: For, behold, the day cometh,
26:53 notice that is future tense, that shall burn as an oven; and
26:56 all the proud, ye, and all that do wickedly, shall be, what
27:00 folks? Stubble, right. And it says: and the day that cometh
27:05 shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall
27:07 leave them neither root nor branch. So when they're finally
27:10 burned up how much is left? It says there's no root. Satan is
27:15 the root of all evil. There's no branches. His followers are the
27:16 branches. It says there's going to be nothing left. Have you
27:20 ever seen a fire go through a field of stubble? I mean when it
27:23 does it there's nothing left but ashes, right? Nothing. And
27:26 that's what it says here in verse 3. And ye shall tread down
27:29 the wicked; for they shall be what now? Ashes, right: Under
27:33 the soles of your feet. So it's giving you the picture that when
27:38 God recreates the world and the righteous go out to inhabit it
27:43 you're like you're walking on the ashes of the wicked because
27:45 they were consumed in the lake of fire on the surface of the
27:48 earth before God made it brand new again. They said you walk
27:51 out and you have your eternal home and it's like you're
27:55 walking over the ashes of the wicked. So what are we learning
27:57 here about the destruction of the wicked? We learned they'll
27:59 be burned in the future, not now It says they'll be consumed,
28:02 burned up and turned to ashes. There's only one chapter in
28:05 Obadiah so verse 16 of Obadiah: For as ye have drunk upon my
28:08 holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea
28:12 they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, now notice folks:
28:16 And they shall be as though they had not been. Wow. That's about
28:21 as clear as you can get it, right? They will be as though
28:24 they had not been. They will cease to exist which is exactly
28:26 what the other verses have been telling us. Now there may be a
28:32 question that comes to your mind This would be a legitimate
28:33 question. We've gone through a lot of verses here and we could
28:36 go through more but still people will say but aren't there some
28:39 verses in the scripture that seem to indicate that they do
28:44 suffer for eternity. And yes upon a, I don't want to say just
28:51 superficial, just took a few verses out of their context,
28:53 ignored the rest of the Bible, there are a few that might lead
28:56 us to think that. So let's take a look at those and see what
28:59 they really do say. Matthew 25 verse 46. Remember we're
29:03 comparing text with text, verse with verse, scripture with
29:07 scripture to see what is the clear truth. It says: And these
29:11 shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous
29:14 into life eternal. So they're saying now pastor doesn't that
29:17 mean the wicked burn forever.
29:18 No it doesn't. Notice what it says and notice what it does not
29:22 say. It says everlasting punishment. It does not say
29:26 everlasting punishing. They're not the same thing. We believe
29:31 that the wicked will experience an everlasting punishment. So
29:36 all we have to ask ourself is what is the punishment that is
29:38 everlasting, right? Let's go find out. Here it is. Again
29:43 2 Thessalonians 1 verse 9, it says of the wicked: Who shall be
29:46 punished with, here's their punishment, friends, everlasting
29:50 what's that next word? Destruction from the presence of
29:53 the Lord, and from the glory of his power. Revelation calls it
29:58 the lake of fire, Paul calls it death, right? In many places
30:03 it's just a type of destruction they experience. So the second
30:08 death is destruction because they're not coming back from it.
30:12 They're going to be eternally destroyed. Let me say it another
30:15 way. The wicked will die twice. If they haven't already died
30:18 previous to Jesus' coming they'll die at the time of the
30:21 second coming by his glory. But then they sleep the sleep of
30:23 death for a 1000 years and then after their judgment is
30:26 fulfilled their punishment is assessed. Then they're going to
30:30 have another death in the lake of fire. Folks it pays to serve
30:33 the Lord, amen? Absolutely. So here we can see how plain the
30:38 truth is by allowing the Bible to be our own commentary When we
30:41 think of hell fire sometimes we think of an eastern concept
30:45 with a western mind. Let me explain something to you here.
30:49 In order to understand any language it really helps to
30:55 understand the metaphors of the language. And I always think
30:58 well pity the person that has to understand English as a second
31:01 language. Because English has got hundreds if not thousands of
31:05 metaphores, idioms, figures of speech, right, that we use all
31:09 the time and when you grow up with them, you know them, you
31:11 know what they mean but someone who's learning it as a second
31:14 language that would be very, very difficult. For example I
31:17 grew up on the west coast of British Columbia and it rains a
31:21 lot there and let me tell you when it's really, really raining
31:24 hard we say it's raining cats and dogs. Right? Anybody know
31:27 that expression, raining cats and dogs? Sure. So let's just
31:33 say that you were sending an email over to your friend in
31:35 Japan and you're talking about the weather here and you say
31:39 man it's coming down so hard it's raining cats and dogs. He's
31:43 saying what? That's dangerous weather right? Dangerous weather
31:48 So I'm sending him a text, an email, right, and I say oh I met
31:52 this pastor here, he's such a find man. He is really on the
31:55 ball. What's he going to think when he sees that translated
31:58 into Chinese. He's going to see Pastor Charles on a basketball
32:02 balancing, you know. And it's going to say oh no that's not
32:04 what he means. And the guy will say oh no, no, no, no. I know
32:07 English. He says he's really on the ball. That means he's really
32:12 on it, right. We understand those things. We get it, right?
32:17 I mean, can you imagine when talking to somebody that doesn't
32:19 really knowo English and say quit beating around the bush.
32:21 What are they going to think, right? Or you might say to them
32:26 On the other hand. On the other hand? What are you talking about
32:31 right? We know those expressions don't we? If you said to
32:34 somebody, the ball is in your court. The ball is in my court?
32:38 Or if you say to somebody, oh here's one, those of you who are
32:45 older here. Remember this one? Elvis has left the building.
32:53 (Chuckles) In the days of Elvis Presley, he was so popular that
32:56 people would hang around after his concert and they'd mull
32:59 around hoping to get a glimpse of him or get an autograph. And
33:01 the announcer comes on and says Elvis has left the building.
33:02 But what he was saying was, You can all go home now. Well that
33:06 saying carried on down and when there's a sporting event or that
33:09 kind of a think and it's really a lopsided score, one team is
33:13 absolutely slaughtering the other and basically for all
33:15 intents and purposes the game is over the announcer would come on
33:17 and say folks Elvis has left the building. What he's actually
33:21 saying is okay you might as well go home because the game is
33:23 basically decided, right? But if you say to somebody today, Elvis
33:26 has left the building, they're like what...I thought Elvis
33:28 passed away a long time ago.
33:30 We understand those metaphores, those idioms, those
33:35 figures of speech because we know the English language. Well
33:40 the Hebrews who wrote down scripture they had them too.
33:43 And so again let's go take a look. What does the Bible mean
33:46 when it uses the expression everlasting destruction or
33:50 eternal. That's a figure of speech that they had. So let's
33:54 go take a look at some other ones here. They used the term
33:57 eternal judgment, Hebrews 6:2, eternal salvation Hebrews 5:9
34:01 eternal redemption, Hebrews 9:12 In each and every case they used
34:06 that phrase it's not the actual act that's carrying on for
34:10 eternity. It's the consequences or it's the effect of it that is
34:15 going on for eternity. There's not a Christian church anywhere
34:18 that believes that Jesus is going to judge and judge and
34:19 judge and judge for all eternity No. We believe as all Christians
34:25 believe that Jesus has a judgment and the consequences
34:28 are, the effect of the judgment is going to last for eternity.
34:31 Same for the salvation, same with redemption. So the results
34:34 of it will be everlasting. Now what about eternal fire? That's
34:38 an expression. Let's go take a look at it. Here in Jude 1,
34:41 there's only one chapter in Jude, verse 7, it says: Even as
34:44 Sodom and Gomorrha, this goes on are set forth for an example.
34:46 Those are wicked cities that lived back in the days of
34:49 Abraham or they just existed rather in days of Abraham. It
34:52 says: Suffered the vengeance of what kind of fire friends
34:56 Eternal fire. Now again is Sodom and Gomorrha on fire tonight.
34:58 No, but it says eternal fire. If eternal fire meant it never
35:02 finishes, if that's the meaning someone wants to impose upon it
35:05 in that phrase, that means it would have to still be burning.
35:08 Now just you think well maybe the news cameras haven't
35:11 gotten over there yet. Right? They're a little slow, right?
35:15 well just to be sure let's go to 2 Peter 2 verse 6. It says: And
35:20 turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into, what folks? Ashes
35:24 condemned them with an overthrow and making them an example,
35:27 which again is example in the King James, unto those that
35:31 after should live ungodly. So it's saying that God took those
35:36 wicked cities, Sodom and Gomorrha turned them into ashes
35:40 and that example of turning them into ashes is what God is going
35:44 to do to the wicked at the end of time. Have you ever been to
35:48 Israel? Anybody here been to Israel? Well yeah there's some
35:51 here. I have been there and boy it's really interesting place.
35:54 go down by the Dead Sea is. The Dead Sea is where they
35:58 supposedly where those wicked cities of Sodom and Gomorrha
36:00 were. So you can see for yourself they're not still
36:02 burning there but you can go out in the Dead Sea and it's got
36:05 such a chemical makeup that you can actually float without a lot
36:10 of effort on the Dead Sea and read a newspaper, lay back and
36:13 read a newspaper. You don't sink right? Afterward, you've got to
36:15 take a shower because your body has got this film all over it.
36:17 But it's worth doing once kind of thing. The Dead Sea which is
36:23 the lowest land level in the world, 1291 feet below sea level
36:25 It is that area where they say those wicked cities once were.
36:29 You can see they're not still on fire tonight. But here's the
36:33 point folks. In the exact same way that the Bible uses the
36:37 phrase eternal judgment and in the exact same way the Bible
36:41 uses the phrase eternal salvation and in the exact same
36:45 way that the Bible uses the phrase eternal redemption so it
36:48 uses the phrase eternal fire. It is consistent with how the Bible
36:52 is using it's metaphors or its figures of speech. So what are
36:56 we seeing here? An eternal fire is one whose effects or results
37:00 are eternal. Everlasting punishment is a punishment whose
37:03 effects or results are eternal. What have we learned so far?
37:06 The fate of the wicked. The Bible says the wicked will die
37:08 It says they will perish, Luke 13 verse 3. They'll be burned up
37:12 says Malachi chapter 4. They'll be utterly consumed, so says
37:16 Psalm 37. It says the wicked will be turned to ashes, Malachi
37:20 4:3 and Obadiah says they'll be as though they had not been. Wow
37:25 So the second death is this. The first death
37:29 is the death that we die
37:31 as the natural result of living in a sinful world. And both the
37:34 righteous and the wicked could experience that death. But the
37:38 second death is the death which is an eternal death as the
37:41 result of personal rebellion against God. There is another
37:44 expression that the Bible uses and people get confused about.
37:47 So let's look at it right now. This expression of unquenchable
37:51 fire. Jeremiah 17 verse 27, it says: But if you will not
37:54 hearken unto me to hallow the Sabbath day, that would be to
37:58 keep the Sabbath day holy, and not to bear a burden, even
38:00 entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the Sabbath day;
38:03 the will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall
38:06 devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.
38:10 So there you have it friends, a fire that shall not be quenched.
38:12 And there is more than one place in the scriptures where it tells
38:15 us that this scripture was literally fulfilled. King
38:19 Nebuchadnezzar with the Babylonians, he came with his
38:22 army and they burned Jerusalem those parts that would burn. But
38:25 here again, is the question. Is Jerusalem still on fire tonight?
38:29 Absolutely not. So what does it mean when it says unquenchable?
38:32 An unquenchable fire is one that if God starts it, it is beyond
38:36 the ability of human beings to put it out until the purposes
38:40 that God has deemed it for have been fulfilled. You know and
38:44 again the idioms of the Hebrews are not that different than us
38:48 today. We use that term unquenchable in a similar way.
38:50 If a fire is out in the country side and by the time the firemen
38:54 get there the building is totally engulfed right, they can
38:58 put their hoses on it but it doesn't really do much because
39:00 it's so much fire there. They might say it was unquenchable.
39:02 But they don't mean that the fire is never going to go out.
39:05 They just mean for a time it was beyond their ability to put it
39:09 out. It might be a chemical fire Again, they know that eventually
39:13 it will burn itself out when everything that can be burned is
39:16 burned and of course it will cease. So an unquenchable fire
39:20 in it's context means beyond the power of anyone to put it out
39:24 but it goes out when everything is burned up. When God starts a
39:31 fire it can't be put out until God deems that it's purpose has
39:36 been fulfilled. What about this expression? Here's a big one,
39:39 right? Forever and ever. Well doesn't the Bible say that the
39:43 wicked are going to suffer forever and ever? Now this is
39:46 a phrase that I have to admit has caused some perplexity about
39:48 the punishment of the wicked. Revelation does use that
39:51 expression. Revelation 20 and verse 10 says: the wicked will
39:54 tormented forever and ever. Here's one in Revelation 14
39:57 verse 10, it says: He shall be tormented with fire and
39:59 brimstone. And then it goes on and says: And the smoke of their
40:03 torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest
40:06 day nor night... So what is this all about. Okay. Here's the
40:10 answer to it. Forever and ever is a Biblical expression which
40:15 literally means till the end of the age. It doesn't necessarily
40:18 mean an infinite, unending length of time. It depends on
40:23 what you use it with, what it's describing. It's similar to our
40:28 English word tall, right? Sometimes the adjective
40:31 describes the noun and sometimes the noun describes the adjective
40:34 For example you can have a tall dog. You can have a tall human
40:38 being. I've been called tall. You can have a tall building
40:41 and you could have a tall mountain. But what is tall.
40:44 Tall is relative to what it's describing, right? In that case
40:50 tall is an adjective that is determined by the noun that you
40:51 put it with. So in the same way forever has its connotation or
40:56 meaning depending on what you place it with. For example:
41:01 1 Samuel 1 verse 22, it says: I will not go up, this is Samuel's
41:03 mother speaking, I will not go up until the child be weaned,
41:06 and then I will bring him, that he may appear before the Lord,
41:09 and there abide, what? For ever, right? But then in verse 28 it
41:13 goes on: Therefore I have lent him unto the Lord, as long as he
41:15 liveth he shall be lent to the Lord. So here forever for Samuel
41:19 meant as long as he lives. In the same way under certain
41:24 circumstances a servant was to serve his master forever. But
41:27 again that would only mean as long as he would live. Psalm 48
41:32 verse 14, we took up synonymous parallelism on an earlier night.
41:34 Here you see it again. It says: For the God is our God for ever
41:38 and ever, now he's going to say it again using different words
41:42 he will be our guide even unto death. So forever and ever meant
41:46 as long as the person lived. In fact forever could mean actually
41:49 short. Fifty-six times by the way, 56 times the Bible uses
41:54 the word forever for things we know have come to an end. So
41:58 again using the Bible itself we can see that it doesn't have to
42:00 mean for eternity. But it can mean a short period of time.
42:04 You know the story of Jonah. He was running away from God,
42:06 didn't want to fulfill God's purposes, and so eventually
42:09 he got on board a ship, the ship got into some big trouble and as
42:13 decided to see who was the cause of it all Jonah admitted that he
42:17 was and they cast him over, right? Jonah actually requested
42:21 it. So they cast him over into the water and Jonah, as he
42:24 described this experience in chapter 2 and verse 6 of the
42:27 book of Jonah he said: I went down to the bottoms of the
42:29 mountains; now he's using metaphorical terms here and he
42:33 says, the earth with her bars was about me for ever. Now of
42:36 course he was swallowed by a big fish, right? And he's
42:40 describing it and he says the bars, meaning the ribs of this
42:42 fish inside were just surrounding him, right? So what
42:47 was going on here. He's in this great big fish that God had
42:51 prepared to swallow him up. He says he was in there forever.
42:55 Now think if we were in that position it would seem like
42:57 forever, but how long was it really, right? It says in
43:00 chapter 1 verse 17 and Jonah was in the belly of the fish three
43:05 days and three nights, right? We when it comes to Bible study
43:08 don't let someone else impose their belief or their
43:13 interpretation upon the text for you. We do the study and let the
43:16 Bible explain itself, which we said on opening night we would
43:19 do. So what are we learning here? Forever in the Bible is a time
43:23 period, the length of which is determined by the object to
43:26 which it is applied. Okay. So that's very plain. To the Hebrew
43:31 mind it depended upon the context. And you know again
43:35 we use things that way too don't we? Have you ever been driving
43:38 up and you come to a stop light and you say that stop light took
43:41 forever to change. Right so say that sometimes. You say
43:45 it has been forever since I ate a good meal. I hope you don't
43:48 leave here saying boy that preacher went on forever tonight
43:50 I hope you don't say that. But in the case of man, we live
43:57 forever in the sense that we will live as long as God has
44:00 determined it, right? And after that the wicked will live
44:04 forever how long their sentence is and then eventually the fire
44:08 will go out. So for the righteous, now here's the good
44:10 part, it will be for eternity because in the context they'll
44:14 be given immortality and therefore they cannot die and
44:17 we will be forever with our Lord Amen? So absolutely. Here's a
44:24 question that we do want to cover. It said why would a
44:28 loving God burn sinners in hell for millions and millions and
44:32 millions of years? Now that is the common teaching today right?
44:34 When someone said well hell fire is for eternity I think to
44:38 myself have they really thought that through? Eternity is a long
44:43 time. Would you agree? I mean we're talking eternity, you're
44:46 talking trillions times trillion trillions and trillions of years
44:51 and in context that's just the first second of eternity. Is God
44:56 going to take someone that lived 30, 40, 50 years of life, maybe
44:59 a lot less and because again they were not in a saved
45:03 condition. Is he going to put them in a tortuous flame with no
45:05 hope for trillions of years? Is that a God of justice, friends?
45:10 That would be a tyrant and our God is not a tyrant, amen? Satan
45:15 has caused people to look upon God that way because he's
45:20 imposing his own character upon God. And of course, we know that
45:23 is not true. I was a young man at one time and I believed in a
45:27 vengeful God that was going to burn people all eternity. But
45:28 then I didn't know the Bible either. So the theology is the
45:34 theology of eternal torment that turned young Robert Ingersoll
45:39 who became known as the world's greatest atheist and into the
45:42 man that he was. Robert Ingersoll's Father was a
45:47 minister. And Robert Ingersoll heard his father talking about
45:50 God is going to burn babies in hell fire for eternity and to
45:53 his young reasoning mind it's a snap, if that's the way God is I
45:57 will never serve him. Right? And he turned out to be this atheist
46:01 and it never had to be friends. In his own writings, he said: For
46:05 the first time I understood the digma of eternal pain... For the
46:08 first time my imagination grasped the height and depth of
46:10 the Christian horror. Again this is the Christian horror as he
46:14 was taught it. Then I said: It's a lie and I hate your religion.
46:18 If it is true, I hate your God. He could not rationalize a God
46:23 of love with eternal hell fire. And how could you, friends?
46:27 Again it was a tragedy that he was taught that because he
46:31 probably could have been a great worker for the Lord if he'd been
46:34 taught correctly. Now Charles Darwin, now we know all the
46:39 problems that he caused, right? But look what he had to say on
46:42 the subject of eternal hell. From his own autobiography, he
46:45 said: I can hardly see how anyone ought to wish
46:47 Christianity to be true. for if so the plain language of the
46:52 text that men who do not believe and this would include my Father
46:56 Brother, and almost all my best friends will be everlastingly
47:00 punished. And this is a damnable doctrine. So again he was taught
47:06 incorrectly in the Bible. He was taught that hell fire was for
47:10 eternity and he thought well I know that my father, brother,
47:13 friends not believing, they aren't Christians, not believing
47:16 and therefore they there for eternity and he said that's a
47:20 damnable doctrine. Amazing. I asked the question at the
47:23 beginning here tonight-What kind of God do we serve? We
47:25 do serve a God of love, don't we amen? There's not a verse in the
47:30 Bible friends, not a single verse in the Bible that says
47:33 that the soul is immortal or that people will burn for
47:36 eternity. You might hear that from preachers' lips, right? You
47:39 might see that in a sermon somewhere but there's not a
47:41 single text in the Bible that teaches that. Now I know there's
47:44 another extreme. The other extreme is that there are
47:49 some people that say Oh God is too good to punish at all. Now
47:53 I wonder what Bible they're reading, right? Because the
47:55 Bible doesn't say that either. It says: as it is written,
47:57 Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. So now there
48:01 will be a punishment of the wicked. There's no question
48:03 about it. God is just as well as loving. So let's recap here.
48:09 The first death is a sleep, why, because there will be an
48:12 awakening from it. There's going to be a resurrection from it.
48:14 The second death which is experienced only by the wicked
48:17 is never called a sleep because there's eternal annihilation. I
48:22 do believe in hell fire, absolutely, the Bible teaches it
48:24 but I believe the Bible does not support eternal hell fire. Luke
48:29 12 verse 47, Jesus said: And that servant, which knew his
48:32 lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according
48:35 to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. Stripes or
48:40 flogging was a punishment that was common in Jesus' day. He was
48:43 using this as an example. You see that person who was more
48:47 accountable will have a lot of punishment is what he's saying
48:49 here, but he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of
48:51 stripes, which means worthy of punishment shall be beaten with
48:55 few stripes. Now why some with many and some with few? Because
48:59 God is a just God. God is not going to punish everyone the
49:03 same. He says they'll be rewarded according to their works, right?
49:09 Sure. Now I want to be kind but I want to tell you that many
49:16 people, maybe pastors or preachers or otherwise, are
49:19 doing a first-class job of blackening God's character
49:22 when it comes to this subject. Now on the one side, they'll say
49:26 God is love, right? God is merciful, God is fair. And then
49:31 they'll turn right around and say if you don't serve him
49:33 you're going to burn for eternity. Where's the justice
49:35 in that? Where's the love in that? It's so incongruous, right
49:40 This question could be asked: Why destroy sinners at all?
49:46 What's the purpose of putting them out of existence? Well keep
49:50 in mind friends, it's the very best thing a loving God could do
49:55 I want you to think. Would the wicked really be happy in heaven
50:00 Would they really be happy there? Before I was a Christian, before
50:04 I was converted I remember that I would drive around in my car
50:10 and I just loved rock and roll music. And so I would turn on
50:14 the radio and turn the radio dial, remember when you had to
50:17 turn the dial, remember that? Remember those days? Okay so
50:19 when I was turning the radio dial, then I would come to some
50:22 kind of Christian station, I'd go Uff. I would come to some
50:30 kind of classical music. I don't want that, right? Then I'd come
50:33 to some station where the guitars are wailing and voices
50:37 are screaming and drums are pounding. I'd go like ah yeah,
50:41 yeah. And that was me, right? God got ahold of my heart friend
50:46 and when God got ahold of my heart, he converted me. He
50:52 converted my mind, he converted my desire, he converted my music
50:57 and now you know if I desire to listen to music and I'll you
51:02 know turn on the radio and one of those pounding rock songs,
51:06 when I Oo! makes dialing motion, I don't do that anymore.
51:13 Actually I do this (steering wheel controls) on my wheel but
51:16 it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. The fact is I don't want
51:20 to listen to it, right? And then I'll get a nice Christian song
51:25 that is of the Spirit and it soothes my soul and I go aah.
51:28 Isn't God good friends? Isn't God wonderful in the way he
51:33 recreates our minds. That which we used to love now we hate,
51:36 that which we used to hate now we love. The point being if you
51:39 take a person that is unconverted, that has never
51:44 experienced the love of God, and doesn't desire to love God and
51:48 the thing of God, the things of heaven, the things that
51:51 Christians love to talk about and if you were to transport
51:55 that person immediately into heaven in the presence of holy
51:59 angels that have never sinned, right? Would that person be
52:03 happy? Well I can tell you the result of it. When Jesus comes
52:06 it says in Revelation 6 that the wicked will cry for the rocks
52:08 and the mountains to fall on them rather than look into the
52:12 face of Jesus. That tells you all you need to know right there
52:14 all right. They would not be happy. Can you imagine someone
52:16 going to heaven...I mean in heaven there aren't going to be
52:18 any banks for the greedy to rob. There aren't going to be any
52:21 places of sinful pleasure for those that are like-minded of
52:25 that, okay? Would a greedy person be safe with streets of
52:31 gold. I mean they'd be looking for some sharp object to jab it
52:34 into those streets and stuff some into their pockets, right?
52:37 I mean you'll take it back to the mansion and hide it away
52:39 somewhere. Again this is where their mind is. They would not be
52:44 happy there at all. If you could picture a selfish unconverted
52:48 person up in heaven I can tell you they would not be happy at
52:52 all. God is love and the very best thing he could do friend
52:57 for that person is to allow them to be as though they had not
53:02 been. He can't extend sin forever. He's got to put an end
53:08 to it because if sin is not ended it perpetuates itself.
53:10 It spreads like a disease will spread. Sin is like a disease
53:14 friend. So he can't keep doing that. But he knows the wicked
53:18 would not be happy in heaven. So what is the very best thing a
53:24 loving and merciful God will do? They will have their punishment
53:28 but when it is finished he will allow them to be as though they
53:31 had not been. Now in Ezekiel chapter 33 verse 11 it says:
53:35 As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of
53:37 the wicked...Now God has no pleasure in the death of the
53:39 wicked, how much less pleasure does he have in punishing them
53:42 for all eternity, right? But he says: let the wicked turn from
53:46 his way and live. Now if there ever was a being that I suppose
53:52 was so wicked that he could maybe burn for eternity that
53:55 would be the devil himself, but even the devil himself will not
54:00 be perpetuated for all eternity. God has a plan for him. Let's
54:03 look at it. Let us see here in Ezekiel 28 verse 15, speaking of
54:08 Satan in his beginning, it says: Thou wast perfect in thy ways
54:14 from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found
54:17 in thee. God did not create a devil. God created a beautiful
54:20 perfect angel called Lucifer. But he says sin or iniquity was
54:24 found in him, he brought it into himself...By the multitude of
54:29 thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence,
54:32 and thou hast sinned: Therefore I will cast thee as profane out
54:35 of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering
54:38 cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was
54:41 lifted up because of thy beauty thou hast corrupted thy wisdom
54:43 by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I
54:47 will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. In other
54:50 words, he's going to expose him for who he is before it's all
54:53 over...Thou has defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of
54:56 thine iniquities by the iniquity of thy traffic; and he continues
54:59 to traffic it around the earth. Therefore will I bring forth a
55:03 fire from the midst of thee, it shall, do what friends? Devour
55:08 thee. And I will bring thee to what folks? Ashes upon the earth
55:14 in the sight of all them that behold thee. Now look at this.
55:16 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished
55:19 at thee: thou shall be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
55:24 Hallelujah, Amen! The devil will be put out of existence. Now I'm
55:28 sure when you think about this, God is a just God when he weighs
55:34 the devil's punishment he's going to weigh all the things
55:36 hat he has caused to be committed right? All the trials and
55:41 temptations he's caused. He's going to put it all together.
55:43 Now I don't know how long it is but that's a lonnnng sentence.
55:46 Right? But God has measured it out and when it's fulfilled
55:53 Satan will be brought to ashes. And never will there be sin and
55:57 sinners anymore. In other words, the universe will be clean
56:01 friend. So let's just again review here. When Jesus comes
56:05 the second coming, the saints are caught up to him in the air.
56:08 The first resurrection will take place among the righteous dead.
56:10 The wicked living will be slain. That's the first death for them.
56:13 During the 1000 years the saints live and reign with Jesus in
56:17 heaven, Revelation 20, and verse 4. Satan is bound here on this
56:21 dark, desolated planet which is called the pit, Revelation 20
56:25 verse 3. And then after the 1000 years there is this period
56:30 called the short season that is spoken of in Revelation 20 verse
56:34 3. That is begun by the New Jerusalem coming down from
56:36 heaven. That'll bring a second resurrection of the wicked. The
56:40 wicked then gather around Jerusalem, Revelation 20 verse 8
56:43 They attempt to take the city. The great white throne judgment
56:46 takes place Revelation 20 verses 9-11. And then it says fire
56:52 comes down from God out of heaven, that's the latter part
56:54 of verse 9. That's the second death for the wicked and then
56:57 out of the ashes of the lake of fire God is going to make a new
57:00 heavens and a new earth. God has a plan for this world. All
57:08 Christians believe that Jesus took our punishment upon himself
57:12 By his stripes, that means with his punishment we were made
57:17 whole. The universe will be clean once more. There'll be no
57:21 devil, there will be no heartache, there will be no pain
57:23 So if the punishment that was to come to us was to be forever or
57:30 eternity in hell fire then Jesus would have had to take that upon
57:34 himself. But Jesus isn't in hell fire tonight. Jesus went to the
57:39 cross and he suffered a separation there that wrung his
57:43 soul so deeply that he cried out My God, My God, why hast thou
57:47 forsaken me? Jesus passed through that experience of
57:51 separation and having gone through that and suffered for
57:54 us, he gave his life for our sins. He rose from the grave
57:58 he ascended to heaven. Jesus is not in hellfire tonight. He
58:03 is our great high priest in heaven, amen? He is there.
58:05 We'll talk more about that and that's why folks as we finish
58:08 tonight let me just say this. The Lord places us between two
58:12 destinies. There is eternal life and there is eternal death. Give
58:18 your whole heart to God tonight friends and let God in return
58:22 give you the greatest gift he ever could, eternal life. Amen.


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