Participants: Ivor Meyers (Host), James Rafferty (Host), Jason Bradley, Yvonne Lewis
Series Code: SISS
Program Code: SISS000006A
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00:31 You know, we're going to do something in this session
00:33 that is going to be repeated quite often 00:36 in our whole time together in the Book of Revelation 00:39 and that is... we're going to go back 00:41 to the Son of man... back to the Son of man... 00:42 back to the Son of man... 00:44 we're still in Revelation chapter 1, 00:45 we haven't quite made it out of Revelation chapter 1, 00:48 put a foot out here and an arm out there 00:51 but woom... we're back in again 00:52 and that's good because really, in a sense, 00:54 Revelation chapter 1... the introduction 00:57 kind of connects to the rest of the Book 00:59 and it helps us because it's laying down the principles, 01:03 the foundation, the tools, the resources we need 01:06 to be able to interpret the rest of the Book 01:08 and one of those main resources is... the Son of man. 01:11 John sees Jesus first 01:15 and that's what we want to do, we want to make Him first, 01:17 so, we're going to jump into this description of Jesus 01:20 because it's an interesting description 01:22 and we're going to look at it 01:24 try to understand it... what it means... 01:26 and then compare it with some other portions of the Bible 01:29 that have similar descriptions but before we do that, 01:31 Jason, would you pray for us and get us started? 01:34 Jason: Sure... "Dear Heavenly Father, 01:36 thank you for being with us today, 01:38 we invite you to take over 01:43 and help us to understand 01:45 everything that we are studying, thank you for creating us 01:49 and not only creating us but sustaining us 01:51 and so, we ask that you equip us with the tools needed 01:55 so that we can comprehend what we are studying 01:58 and retain the information that we are studying 02:00 and please be with the people at home 02:02 that are watching this as well, in Jesus' name we pray, amen. " 02:05 All: Amen, thank you Jason. 02:06 So, in Revelation chapter 1, 02:08 we're just going to look here in verse 12 and onward... 02:12 Yvonne: Before we do that, 02:13 could we just look at Revelation 1:1? 02:15 James: Sure. 02:16 Because I think that just really sets up the entire Book 02:21 and "The Revelation of Jesus Christ... " 02:25 the Revelation of Jesus Christ 02:28 so the Book is revealing Jesus Christ, right? 02:32 it's not just about prophecy, 02:35 but it's revealing the character of Christ 02:39 right, so, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ 02:43 which God gave unto him... " 02:45 so now we have the Father and the Son 02:49 similar to Genesis 1 where... 02:53 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 02:56 And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep... " 03:00 so it's kind of like... to me... 03:02 again, "repeat... " right? "and enlarge" 03:05 and so, when I read this, 03:08 I thought, "Wow! we have now... 03:11 we have the Father in this, 03:13 we have the Father revealing the Son, 03:16 and this is what Jesus is going to show to his servant, 03:20 so it's kind of like this... the Father reveals the Son, 03:25 the Son gives to the... the servants... 03:27 James: Hierarchy... 03:29 Yvonne: Yeah and it's... 03:30 to me it was just really, really "revealing" pardon the pun. 03:35 And that's a really good point, 03:36 I wanted to touch on this for a second 03:38 and that is... because theologically... 03:41 on a technical term 03:42 this is a revelation from God of Jesus... from God... 03:48 and so it's actually not just that it's a revelation of Jesus, 03:51 it's actually a message "From... " 03:52 and people will take one or the other sometimes, 03:55 they'll say, "No, no, no, you're wrong, 03:57 it's not a revelation of Jesus, it's a revelation from Jesus, 04:00 revelation from God to us... " 04:03 I don't want to get too technical here 04:06 but I think it's both... 04:07 I think Yvonne's point is really important and significant 04:10 and I think we can prove that and this is how we can prove it, 04:12 is the Book itself a revelation of Jesus? 04:16 And if the Book itself is a revelation of Jesus 04:19 then it's not just a revelation from Jesus, 04:21 it's also a revelation of Jesus, I think it's both. 04:24 Ivor: Let me add to that, 04:26 that... the reason this is so important, 04:29 this whole Book, the Book of Revelation 04:33 is a revelation of Jesus Christ in this sense... 04:38 that Christ is seeking 04:43 to manifest Himself within his church, 04:45 when the church fully reflects Christ or reveals Christ, 04:52 in character, that's the end purpose of this Book, 04:56 this is how God is going to perfect His people 04:59 and thus have His people reveal Christ 05:05 so when the Bride is finally without spot and wrinkle, 05:08 there is the revelation of Jesus Christ, 05:11 see, it's now totally reflecting Jesus Christ, 05:14 so the Bible tells that the hope of glory is what? 05:18 Christ revealed in us, 05:22 the whole Book of Revelation is showing 05:24 how Christ is going to accomplish that work 05:27 and bring about a bride that reflects the Son... 05:30 right? The Son of righteousness 05:33 and so in that sense, the Revelation of Jesus Christ 05:37 is really showing what God wants to do in His people. 05:41 And how does He do that? and I really... 05:43 by-the-way also the Holy Spirit, 05:45 we talk about Creation... 05:47 the Holy Spirit is mentioned in verse 4, 05:48 "the Seven Spirits... " capital S 05:50 "which are before the throne" 05:52 so all three are there, 05:53 as this comes forth, "grace and peace be unto you 05:55 from Him and was and is... and is to come; 05:57 and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne... " 05:59 the Holy Spirit... because when 06:00 John begins his vision in verse 10, what does he say? 06:05 Jason... or... yeah... go ahead... read it for us... 06:09 Yvonne: I took over Jay... 06:10 "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day 06:13 and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet... " 06:17 All right, so, he's in the Spirit 06:19 so then we got the Godhead, we got all three there now, 06:21 just like in Creation, we got all three, 06:23 and as Ivor said and I think that it's important, 06:24 God is working to recreate His image in us, 06:28 He created us in His image 06:30 and now He wants to recreate us in His image, 06:31 so we see this... this theme being brought out here 06:34 in Revelation chapter 1. 06:36 You know, James, I just had a thought and really, 06:41 remember how we talked about the numbers one through seven? 06:43 And what God did in that first one through seven 06:45 is what He's seeking to do again 06:48 in these cycles of one through seven. 06:51 In other words, in one through seven in Genesis, 06:54 you had Creation but the devil marred it, 06:56 disrupted it and so now it's as though God is saying, 07:00 "Okay, you thought to mess up my plan, 07:01 we're going to do this again. " 07:03 And so, this cycle of one through seven 07:06 is the way and the process through which God is recreating. 07:10 James: Hmmm... hmmm... Yvonne: Wow! 07:12 Ivor: Yeah. 07:13 James: And we know that... that's confirmed again 07:15 by the fact that in the garden, 07:17 God came to be with Adam and Eve in the cool of the day 07:19 and when we get to the end of the Book of Revelation, 07:22 God comes to dwell with us 07:23 and then, in the garden, we ate of the tree of life 07:28 and in Revelation, 07:30 we're going to be eating of the Tree of Life, 07:32 the Garden is restored... 07:33 the Garden is restored, there we are... 07:36 Yvonne: Whew, I might have to shout up in here in a minute. 07:39 It's good stuff... this is some good stuff right here. 07:43 So, he's turning... 07:45 he's in the Spirit and he turns to look 07:47 and he sees... in the midst of the throne, 07:50 in the midst of the candlesticks... 07:51 excuse me, not the throne, in the midst of the candlesticks 07:53 verse 13... he sees "one like unto the Son of man" 07:56 the Son of man... 07:57 now this is really interesting 07:59 because when he sees the Son of man, 08:01 who is Jesus Christ, 08:02 the way he sees Him... the way He is described here 08:06 is a little bit... could be a little bit unnerving, 08:09 I mean... okay... let's just read through it here, 08:12 Revelation chapter 13, 08:14 Jason, can you read Revelation chapter 1, 08:16 excuse me, verses 13, 14, 15 and 16. 08:23 So, Revelation chapter 1 verses 13 through 16? 08:26 Okay, "And in midst of the seven candlesticks 08:29 one like unto the Son of man, 08:31 clothed with a garment down to the foot, 08:33 and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 08:36 His head and his hairs were white like wool, 08:39 as white as snow; 08:40 and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 08:43 and his feet like unto fine brass, 08:45 as if they burned in a furnace; 08:47 and his voice as the sound of many waters. 08:50 And he had in his right hand seven stars: 08:53 and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: 08:56 and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. " 09:02 Okay now, the reason why I say 09:04 this can be a little bit unnerving 09:05 is because you notice what happens 09:07 in verse 17 when John sees the Son of man, 09:11 "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead" 09:14 Yvonne: Hmmm... 09:16 You can look at this picture and you can say, 09:19 "Whoa, this is scary, what is this?" 09:22 It's Jesus and I think it's important 09:25 for us to break down the symbols here 09:27 because it's not that John is scared, per se, 09:31 like horrified... John is more overwhelmed 09:34 with this picture of burning that he sees, 09:37 for example, his eyes were like a flame of fire... 09:39 have you ever sat in front of a fire? 09:42 Yvonne and Jason: Hmmm... hmmm... 09:44 the logs... the flame... it's mesmerizing, yeah, 09:48 I could just sit there and just look and look... 09:51 what is it about that? And I'm not... 09:53 this is not unique to me, 09:54 "Oh, you're one of those people who likes to look into a fire," 09:56 you know what I'm saying? 09:57 No, this is all of us isn't it? 09:59 It's like, "Wow!" 10:01 And so, when the Bible describes his eyes like a flame of fire, 10:04 what it's saying is, "His eyes are mesmerizing, 10:06 we want to look into his eyes" 10:08 they're just beautiful, they're just attractive 10:10 we can just look in His eyes forever... 10:12 we can just sit there all night and look into His eyes. 10:14 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 10:15 Of course, we experience that sometimes, 10:17 with our first-love experience, 10:18 we just want to look into her eyes 10:20 or look into his eyes, right? We just want to... 10:21 and this is what we're looking at here, 10:24 we're looking... because later on... 10:26 right in Revelation chapter 2, 10:27 we're going to talk about the first-love experience. 10:29 In verse 15 it says, 10:31 "And his feet were like fine brass" 10:33 He's got the Coppertone look, 10:34 He's got that nice, attractive, those eyes, the Coppertone look 10:39 and then it talks about here... it talks about His voice, 10:41 he says, "His voice is as the sound of many waters" 10:43 have you ever sat at night listening to water 10:47 a stream running, a river running, 10:49 the waterfall... just that... 10:51 people buy this little water apparatus 10:53 that they can put in their house to listen to that... 10:56 it's soothing, in other words, Jesus is attractive 10:59 and so when we see Jesus in the Book of Revelation, 11:01 we don't just see Him... "Oh, there's the Son of man... " 11:03 we see Him in a very attractive light, 11:05 so attractive and so overwhelming 11:08 so beautiful, so gorgeous, 11:09 so... that John just falls down... 11:11 I mean, it's like... it's like, 11:13 when you see that woman... for the first time. 11:16 Jason: Yeah like Tiffany... 11:17 Like Tiffany... there you go... 11:19 you're going to meet her later 11:21 but now you see her, "I want to meet her now" 11:23 Jason: Yeah... 11:24 James: This is the way Jesus is coming across, 11:26 "I want to meet Him now, I want to connect with Him now" 11:29 And there's a very powerful lesson there 11:32 that we talk about the need to die to self, 11:34 well, the best way to die to self is to look at Jesus 11:39 because no man can see Him and live, it's right there, 11:43 no man can see Him and live, 11:45 so, as I look at His face, 11:47 I look at His glory, self dies, in His presence 11:52 a new life in Him, 11:55 it's how we get the revelation of Christ in us. 11:57 Yvonne: Nice... nice... 11:59 it's interesting because this depiction of Christ 12:03 is different from the one in Isaiah 12:05 where we're told that He had no comeliness 12:07 that we would desire Him so this is a different... 12:11 this is a different Jesus... James: Glory... glory... 12:15 Yvonne: This is the body that was prepared for Him on earth, 12:18 is different from this one. 12:20 James: He's glorified now... Yvonne: He's glorified now. 12:22 And I love what Ivor brought out too 12:24 because John dies and that's a great illustration 12:27 death to self but then Jesus revives him, 12:31 "Don't... " He puts His hand on him... 12:33 "Fear not, stand up, be revived" 12:34 and we see the same picture by-the-way in the Book of Daniel 12:37 in Daniel chapter 10, we see a similar picture 12:41 of Christ... He's the man clothed in linen 12:45 in Daniel chapter 10, 12:46 Yvonne, can you read two verses for us there 12:50 in Daniel 10 verses 5 and 6? 12:53 Sure, "Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, 12:56 and behold a certain man clothed in linen, 12:59 whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz: 13:03 His body also was like the beryl, 13:06 and his face as the appearance of lightning, 13:08 and his eyes as lamps of fire, 13:10 and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, 13:14 and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. " 13:17 You see that... that's similar and then we have 13:20 a similar response in Daniel, what does Daniel do? 13:23 In verse 7 he talks about how he saw... 13:26 "all the men fled," but then in verse 8, 13:29 he says, "I was left alone, I saw this great vision, 13:33 and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness... " 13:37 my goodness, my righteousness, 13:39 all those good things that I thought I had and was, 13:41 "they were turned into corruption, 13:45 I retained no strength. " 13:46 And he says, "I heard the voice 13:48 and when I heard the voice... " verse 9... 13:49 "then I was in a deep sleep on my face, toward the ground. " 13:53 Same thing... Ivor: "as if dead... " 13:54 James: As if dead... 13:56 And then what happens? 13:57 He's revived, heaven revives him. 13:59 God revives him, 14:01 hand is laid on him... a voice is spoken... 14:03 hand is laid on him, a voice is spoken, 14:04 see, this is the process we go through 14:06 we need to remember that when we see Jesus, 14:09 when we behold Jesus, 14:11 we're going to be overwhelmed by His goodness 14:12 and His unselfishness and His love 14:14 and it's going to knock us out, 14:15 we're going to feel unworthy, we're going to feel corrupt, 14:18 Daniel was a blameless politician, okay, 14:21 he was a man who could stand without fault 14:25 before fellow politicians, 14:26 there are men like that around, here and there even today, 14:30 okay, I'm not going to mention any names, 14:33 and yet, when he saw Jesus, 14:35 all that blamelessness was corruption 14:38 because he... he recognized the failure... 14:42 we recognize the failure 14:43 and so what's going to happen is, 14:44 when we're going to see Jesus, we're going to go, 14:46 "Ah man! I don't even know why... what... I don't... 14:48 I might as well just give up and we die... " 14:50 but then Jesus revives us, everyday this happens, 14:53 we see Jesus... we die... He revives us... 14:55 "Why did I speak that way to my wife?" 14:57 "Why am I so selfish towards people?" 14:59 "Why is it that I can't be courteous 15:00 when I'm driving down the road and someone cuts me off?" 15:02 "Why is that I've got all this anger inside?" 15:05 "Lord, I just want... I just give up!" 15:07 And then Jesus says, "It's all right... " 15:08 He touches us, he revives us... He touches us, he revives us 15:11 and we go through this process... 15:12 Ivor: Death, burial, resurrection 15:14 James: Yes! 15:15 Ivor: Death, burial, resurrection 15:16 so the more we practice death, burial and resurrection, 15:18 the more we'll be prepared 15:20 for the actual death, burial, resurrection process. 15:23 And look, this is an incredible connection now we just made 15:27 between Revelation and Daniel, 15:28 we're going to... we're going to make that connection more 15:30 as we go through the Programs, 15:31 right now we're in Revelation, but here's a connection 15:33 and this connection reminds us of... 15:36 the Book of Revelation is a supplement to the Book of Daniel 15:39 there are some principles in Revelation 15:40 that help us to understand Daniel... 15:42 that will help us to understand the Book of Revelation. 15:44 So, we want to actually look at one more principle 15:48 that we decided that it was pretty crucial for us to get, 15:51 notice again, we haven't jumped into the churches or the seals 15:54 or the trumpets yet, 15:55 once we get this understanding, then I think we're ready to go 15:59 so here's the thing... in the Book of Revelation... 16:04 like, if I were to invite you somewhere, 16:06 invite you to a wedding, 16:08 what two things would you need to know? 16:10 When and where. 16:14 Timing and location, those two things are crucial 16:19 for understanding the Book of Revelation. 16:20 Think of the Book of Revelation 16:22 as an invitation to the Wedding Feast, 16:23 and at every point in the Book of Revelation, 16:27 there's a journey that we're on, we need to know where we are. 16:30 So, if I drop my finger anywhere in the Book of Revelation, 16:34 you should be able to tell me time and location 16:37 of what's happening here, 16:39 the way that we get location, 16:41 we've already discussed... the Sanctuary... 16:43 we have to know where we are at any given point 16:46 in the Book of Revelation, 16:47 "Am I in the Holy Place or the Most Holy Place?" 16:50 Right? so that's one thing, 16:52 if you don't know where you are, what are you? 16:54 Lost... and there's a reason why many people are lost 16:58 in the Book of Revelation because, they're like, 17:00 I don't even know where this is, so, once you have location, 17:03 that's step one, 17:05 the other thing that you need is timing, 17:07 so let's talk about that very quickly, 17:09 oh well, let's talk about that. 17:12 In the Book of Daniel there are three "Time Prophecies" 17:15 okay, and we're going to go into this in more detail 17:19 again in a later study, 17:21 but we're just going to kind of summarize it now. 17:23 There is the 70-week Prophecy that's found in Daniel 9, 17:27 now that prophecy basically pointed forward 17:30 to the coming of Christ, okay, that's just in... in a nutshell, 17:34 it pointed forward to the coming of Christ as the Messiah, 17:38 the 1,260-year Prophecy is found in Daniel chapter 7, 17:43 and that prophecy points to this power 17:46 that is identified as the "Little Horn" 17:50 who would think to change "times and laws," 17:53 okay, the third prophecy is the 2,300-day Prophecy, 17:57 which brings us down to the year 1844 18:01 and again we'll go into this in more detail later on. 18:04 And that's in Daniel 8, so you have Daniel 7... 1,260 18:06 you have Daniel 8... 2,300, Daniel 9... 70 weeks. 18:09 Now, the key thing to understand is that 18:11 three prophecies are really one, 18:13 they're just one time prophecy 18:15 so they are different sections of the same prophecy, 18:19 so when the 70 weeks, we understand the 70 weeks 18:23 and all scholars understand the 70 weeks 18:25 to be 70 weeks of years, 18:26 so the 490 days... 70 weeks... is really 490 years 18:32 but since the 1,260 and the 2,300 18:34 are connected to the same prophecy, 18:37 then they're all what...? A day for a year... right? 18:42 Very simple, so you have 490 years... 18:44 that's the 70-weeks, 18:46 the 1,260... years... and then the 2,300 years... 18:51 this is the measuring stick for the entire Bible, 18:55 okay, specifically for the Book of Revelation, 19:00 this is how we get Historicism. 19:02 Historicism is a teaching that 19:05 once again, these prophecies unfold over a period of time 19:08 and that the "day for a year principle" 19:11 is a measuring stick for these prophecies, 19:14 the issue is, during the Protestant Reformation, 19:19 most Protestants were using the 1,260-year Prophecy 19:24 to point to the Papacy as the fulfillment of this prophecy, 19:29 so they had a Council... because they were like, 19:32 "What are we going to do, we've got to do something 19:34 because people are leaving in droves... " 19:35 well, guess what they did? 19:36 James: You were saying the Papacy had a Council... 19:38 Ivor: Yes, Council of Trent, okay 19:41 and in this Council, 19:42 they decided to come up with two new schools of prophecy, 19:47 prophetic interpretation, 19:48 one was called Preterism... one was called Futurism... 19:53 both these schools of prophecy changed "times" 19:58 Yvonne: Hmmm... 20:00 Ivor: So remember Daniel 7:25 says, 20:02 "this power will think to change times and laws" 20:05 now we usually talk about the Sabbath being changed 20:07 but "times... " wait a minute... 20:10 so they're going to attempt to change time prophecy to do what? 20:14 Throw you off from the correct interpretation 20:17 so you don't know where you are... or what time it is... 20:22 so if you don't have the right time, you're off... 20:26 Yvonne: Right... 20:27 Ivor: You're lost... location, time, location, time, 20:29 so these two schools of prophecy, 20:31 Preterism... it's all in the past, 20:32 Futurism... it's all in the future... 20:34 couldn't possibly be the Papacy, 20:35 it's in the future, or it's in the past, 20:37 it was designed to throw one off 20:41 from the true prophetic interpretation, okay, 20:44 so, understanding this, we need to realize, okay, 20:47 "I need to know what time it is" 20:49 the 70 weeks, the 1,260 and 2,300 20:51 are crucial to understanding prophecy 20:54 so let me show you just a couple of examples, 20:56 we talked about this a little bit earlier... 20:57 in our last program, 20:59 the life of Christ, okay, 21:01 is a snapshot of the life of the church, 21:06 we are to follow His example, okay, 21:08 "these are they that follow the lamb withersoever He goes... " 21:12 so look, just as Christ was born, 21:13 you have the birth of the early church, 21:16 just as Christ was baptized, 21:19 you have the baptism of the early church... Day of Pentecost 21:22 after Christ was baptized, where does he go? 21:25 Oh, by-the-way, the birth and baptism of Christ, 21:28 points us to the 70-week Prophecy... right? 21:32 the 70-week prophecy points to the birth of Christ, 21:34 so, after this... His birth and baptism, 21:38 you then have Christ going into the wilderness. 21:41 Yvonne: Right... 21:43 Ivor: Wait a minute... that points me to the 1,260... 21:46 when the church goes into the wilderness, right? 21:49 When Jesus comes out of the wilderness, 21:52 this is amazing! one of the first things He does 21:55 after coming out of the wilderness, 21:57 He goes to a wedding feast and then He cleanses the Temple, 22:02 so remember, the 1,260 brings us down to 1798, right? 22:08 then when Jesus comes out of the wilderness, 22:10 it would reflect the church 22:12 also coming out of the wilderness after 1798 22:16 and then what does He do? He cleanses the temple, 22:18 the prophecy of the 2,300 days 22:21 point's us to the cleansing of the temple. 22:24 And also, He ordained... 22:27 not ordained but He calls His disciples, 22:29 so when the church comes out of the wilderness, 22:32 God calls His people out of all these churches 22:34 to start this remnant that we call, "The Remnant Movement," 22:37 "The Last-day Movement" "The Church of God. " 22:40 Absolutely, so... so this force is the 2,300 22:43 and by-the-way, the Jews said to Him, 22:44 "Forty and six years we've been building this temple, 22:47 will you raise it up again in three days?" 22:50 If you take 46 years, and add it to 1,798 22:53 you come to 1844, that's just crazy... 22:57 that's just crazy! 22:58 So, after that, what do you have Jesus doing? 23:01 He's preaching, teaching and healing, 23:04 what is God's church doing at the end of time? 23:06 Preaching, teaching, healing, 23:08 then, He gets persecuted because of Sabbath, 23:12 what's going to happen to the church at the end-time? 23:15 The very same thing, okay, 23:17 then He goes through His Gethsemane experience, 23:19 and then death, burial and resurrection, 23:21 death decree... death, burial and resurrection, 23:23 so we find in the life of Christ this 70... 1,260... 2,300... 23:29 we find the same thing in the Book of Revelation, 23:33 in fact, if you look at this, you know what Jesus said, 23:36 "if you have ought against your brother, go to him... 23:39 and if he won't hear, take two witnesses, 23:41 if he won't hear it, take it to the church... " 23:43 70 weeks, Christ had been with His church, 23:47 He comes to them Himself, they reject Him, 23:51 so guess what He does, He sends two witnesses... 23:54 1,260-year Prophecy, and what happened? 23:59 they reject those two witnesses, so what next? 24:02 Okay, I'm going to bring it to my church... 1844... 24:06 if they don't hear the church, that's it, 24:10 this process of 70... 1,260... 2,300... 24:12 is found all throughout the Scriptures... 24:15 And by-the-way, in that thing... I mean, in that story... 24:20 in Matthew 18... the context of that... 24:23 Peter says, "How often shall we forgive... seven times?" 24:27 And Jesus says, "Seventy times seven... " 24:29 He's referring right back to that prophecy... 24:31 see the... the Bible is profound 24:34 and the lessons here are deep 24:36 and the layers are just intimate and God is the author 24:40 and there's just beautiful pictures that just flow... 24:43 So I'm going to share this last point, 24:45 I know we're running out of time, but, 24:47 so taking that understanding, 24:50 we should be able to go anywhere in the Scripture... 24:53 in the Book of Revelation and we should be looking, 24:55 "Where am I? Am I in the 70... 24:58 am I in the 1,260? or am I in the 2,300?" 25:02 James: Post 1844... 25:04 Ivor: Post 1844, if you look in Revelation 12, 25:06 you'll find all three prophecies there, 25:07 first you have the birth of Christ, 25:09 what is that? what time? 25:12 James: That's 70 weeks... Ivor: 70 weeks, 25:13 then we have the woman going into the wilderness, 25:16 what is that? 25:17 James: 1,260... Ivor: 1,260... 25:19 then you have the dragon going to make war with the remnant, 25:21 "who keep the commandments of God," 25:23 what is that? James: Post 1844... 25:25 Ivor: 2,300... and here's what's amazing, James, 25:27 after Revelation 12, 25:29 the 70-week Prophecy... falls off the scene, 25:32 you're only now dealing with 2,300-Day Prophecy 25:36 and 1,260... James: And post-1844... 25:37 Ivor: before Revelation 12, 25:39 you have 70 weeks... 1,260... 2,300... 25:42 after Revelation 12, you have only 2,300... 25:45 James: Yeah, which just lines up perfectly 25:47 with the principles we've been learning. 25:48 Ivor: Absolutely... 25:49 James: Primarily pre- primarily post 1844... 25:53 you divide it... and another thing that's really interesting, 25:55 if you look at the gospels, each one of them has a chapter 25:59 that is dedicated to prophecy, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, 26:03 John doesn't... because John... 26:04 God led him to write the Book of Revelation, 26:06 but each one of them have a chapter dedicated to prophecy, 26:09 and each of those chapters talks the 70-week part, 26:12 the 1,260 part and the end of time, 26:15 each one of them breaks up those sections, okay... 26:16 Ivor: Absolutely, absolutely. 26:17 James: And we don't... we're not going to get into details 26:19 because we are running out of time, 26:21 but here's one point that I wanted to make, 26:22 Jesus... after he gives the prophetic declaration, 26:26 in Matthew 24... He gives a parable in Matthew 25, 26:30 about the ten virgins, 26:31 five were wise, five were foolish 26:33 and the foolish virgins missed the time, 26:36 they missed the time 26:37 they were studying their Bibles, 26:38 they were looking at it but they missed the time, 26:40 and the bridegroom came and went and they were thinking, 26:42 "no... this is going to be... at some future time, 26:43 this is going to be at some future time," they weren't ready 26:46 and they were so wrapped up in the world that they weren't... 26:48 and that's the mistake we can make with Bible Prophecy, 26:51 is to allow the world to interpret it for us 26:53 and to be so wrapped up in events 26:55 that we miss what God has actually declared 26:57 and what He's actually saying. 26:59 Yvonne: Yes... yes... yes. 27:00 James: Okay, we are almost out of time, 27:03 we want to, I think, remind us 27:05 and those who are watching 27:07 that we are interested in answering questions, 27:09 we're covering some good material here 27:12 the table is being set 27:14 and there's one course after another... 27:15 one course after another, 27:17 we haven't even gotten to dessert yet, 27:18 though we did take a little taste of it 27:20 when we talked about the Bible 27:21 but we want to answer questions and they can... 27:25 those questions can be sent in to... 27:26 Yvonne: sss as in Salvation in Symbols and Signs, 27:31 sss@3... the number 3ABN.org 27:35 SSS@3ABN.ORG 27:38 send in your questions and we will attempt to answer them. 27:40 Yvonne: Video questions. 27:42 James: Video questions, we want video questions. 27:43 Yvonne: We want video questions, 27:45 that will make it even more interesting. 27:46 James: Yvonne, close out for us. 27:47 Yvonne: Sure, "Father God, thank you so much 27:50 for this study and the richness of your Word, Lord, 27:54 we can just mine the depths of your Word 27:57 and just get all of these gems, 27:59 so thank you so much and continue to bless us 28:01 and keep us Lord 28:03 and help us to be focused on you and not distracted, 28:06 we pray in Jesus' name... amen. 28:08 All: Amen, amen. |
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