Participants: Ivor Meyers (Host), James Rafferty (Host), Jason Bradley, Yvonne Lewis
Series Code: SISS
Program Code: SISS000012A
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00:31 We are still in Sardis,
00:33 okay, we left off in Sardis... we're still in Sardis 00:36 and we're going to recap a little bit, 00:38 I think it would be good for us to pick up 00:39 a little bit where we left off 00:41 before we move into Philadelphia the church of Brotherly Love, 00:44 there's a connection here, there's a great connection 00:46 and we've looked at some of the symbols 00:48 and what they are telling us about what is to come 00:51 and what has happened and where we are 00:54 and it's... it's a beautiful picture 00:56 that is listed out here in the Scriptures, 00:58 I love the way it's all tying together 01:00 with the rest of the Bible 01:01 and bringing us to... this Book... 01:06 and I've said this before and I'll say it again, 01:07 is a masterpiece, 01:09 the Book of Revelation is a masterpiece. 01:11 Only God could have written this book 01:12 and it's... it's taking... and I'll just say... 01:16 in these words, in the Book of Revelation 01:18 the entire Bible meets and ends, okay... 01:21 and I'm borrowing those words but those are powerful words 01:24 that are helping us to understand 01:25 what this Book really means to us as a people. 01:27 So, let's jump in... 01:28 Yvonne, can you have a word of prayer for us 01:30 and we'll jump right in. 01:31 Sure, "Father, thank you so much 01:32 for allowing us to study your Word and giving us insight 01:37 Lord, we just praise you, Lord God, 01:39 because we need your insight and your guidance 01:41 so we thank you for that, 01:42 we invite you to be with us, Lord, 01:45 you are welcome in this place 01:46 thank you again, in Jesus' name, amen. " 01:48 All: "Amen... " 01:50 So Sardis means escaping... that's what the word means... 01:53 and the timeframe of this church is from about 1517... 01:57 that's the time of the 95 Theses... Martin Luther, 01:59 et cetera to about 1798... 02:02 this was the time of the Reformation, 02:04 now we know that because we looked at the previous verses 02:07 in the church of Thyatira 02:09 and we noticed that they were promised the Morning Star, 02:12 John Wycliffe was the Morning Star of the Reformation, 02:14 why? Because Christ is the Morning Star 02:16 and He brought the Bible to the people 02:18 and the Bible... the Word of God is Christ, 02:21 it's a revelation of Christ, in fact, in John 1 it says, 02:24 "the Word was with God and the Word was God 02:26 and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. " 02:28 Ivor: So to clarify, you said Wycliffe brought the Bible 02:31 to the people which is a revelation of Jesus Christ 02:34 which is bringing Christ to the people... yeah... 02:37 James: Yes, yes... and so we have that promise that was made 02:40 at Thyatira... that promise is realized in Sardis 02:43 but what we have in Sardis is we have 02:46 kind of a hesitation or a stopping point... 02:51 slowing down of God's purpose, 02:53 see, God wants to bring His church out of darkness 02:56 into this light and He wants... as it says in Proverbs, 02:59 He wants the path of the just to be as a shining light 03:02 that shines more and more unto the perfect day. 03:06 Well, the first thing He says to the church of Sardis is 03:08 I haven't found your works perfect, 03:10 in other words, you haven't been shining more and more, 03:12 you've stopped, 03:14 and we talked about that with the Denominations 03:16 and how that they had kind of splintered 03:19 and everyone had their little thing that they were emphasizing 03:22 of course, Martin Luther... "righteousness by faith," 03:24 the Baptists... "baptism by immersion," 03:26 Calvinists... Methodists... all these little groups 03:29 hunkered around these individuals was not God's will, 03:32 so God is pointing forward now to a time when He is going to 03:37 bring them into accountability 03:40 and bring a message that's going to call them 03:42 out of all these little splinter groups 03:43 into one church and so we see these phrases like... 03:47 for example... "your garments... 03:50 you'll walk with me in white 03:52 and you will not be blotted out of the Book... " 03:55 the Lamb's book of life 03:57 is what this is talking about... the Book of Life, 03:59 these are phrases that are pointing to a judgment 04:02 they are phrases that are pointing 04:03 to a time of accountability 04:05 and that's what we're going to see in the progression of time, 04:06 we've come from the early Apostolic church, 04:08 then this time of persecution and this time of compromise 04:11 bringing us into the Dark Ages, coming out of the Dark Ages 04:14 and now bringing us toward... through the Reformers... 04:17 toward a judgment... 04:18 Ivor: Right... right... 04:20 Yvonne: There are two things that kind of jump out at me, 04:23 one is... that the name 04:27 will not be blotted out of the Book of Life, 04:30 to me... that... 04:32 the whole idea of "once saved... always saved... " 04:35 this contradicts that because 04:38 if your name is in the Book of Life... 04:41 James: you're saved... Yvonne: you're saved... 04:42 if your name is not in the Book of Life... you're not... 04:46 and your name can be blotted out because Jesus says, 04:50 "He that overcometh, 04:52 the same shall be clothed in white raiment; 04:55 and I will not blot out his name... " 04:57 so your name can be blotted out. 05:00 James: And that's the only verse you need, 05:02 that's the only verse you would need. 05:05 James: I mean, there are many verses in the Bible... 05:07 there are many verses in the Bible 05:09 but that would be... just that one would be sufficient, 05:10 the idea of "once saved... always saved" 05:13 is based upon truth and the truth of the matter is... 05:18 is that God has an everlasting gospel 05:21 that's more powerful 05:22 than anything on Planet Earth that Satan can bring against us, 05:24 so when you put your life in the hand of God, 05:27 He's got you and He's never going to let you go 05:30 but that does not violate our choice, 05:32 we can choose to turn away from that gospel 05:36 and to turn away from Jesus and unfortunately, 05:38 many people have done that down through time 05:40 and Jesus is warning about... even the Reformers can do that. 05:43 Ivor: So, if you remember the first church we looked at 05:47 it was the perfect church but then it lost its first love, 05:51 remember that Lucifer was once... 05:54 James: "saved... " 05:56 Ivor: Saved... he was once saved James: In heaven... 06:01 James: Was he always saved? Ivor: Once saved... 06:04 he's not saved now... 06:05 so if... if a perfect angel could fall 06:09 from the... the grace of God, 06:11 fall from his position, then... what makes us think 06:16 that us... you see what I'm saying? 06:18 "Oh yeah, well God's not going to... " 06:20 that's the mistake that Lucifer and angels made in heaven, 06:24 "God's not going to do anything, we can do whatever we want to do 06:26 there's going to be no consequences and what happened? 06:28 They were cast out of heaven and so... just looking at the... 06:32 again... the history... 06:33 even though what occurred in heaven, 06:35 should be enough to... to show that 06:38 the idea of "once saved... always saved" 06:40 is not in accordance with the Scriptures. 06:43 Now, number two... 06:44 about the Bible that you've been bringing out, 06:46 what does that teach us about "once saved... always saved?" 06:49 Ivor: That's right, you actually look at these chosen people 06:53 in the time of Christ they were like, 06:56 "Hey! we're Abraham's seed, 06:57 once we're Abraham's seed, 06:59 Jesus... there's nothing that even you can do about it. " 07:01 James: "Once saved... always saved" 07:03 was one of the biggest mistakes the Jewish nation made 07:06 that ideology is one of the biggest mistakes they made. 07:09 Yvonne: "We are the chosen forever... " 07:10 James: Yeah "and there's nothing that can happen to change that" 07:13 and so, what Ivor was bringing out here... 07:15 when we go back and... we are informed... 07:17 the Book of Revelation informs us of... 07:19 we're informed by the Bible... 07:22 the history of the Bible informs us 07:24 concerning the Book of Revelation 07:26 so what else does it inform us about this question right here? 07:30 We see it over and over again, these nations that are chosen, 07:33 people that are chosen... Saul... Solomon... these others 07:36 and of course, we recognize in their experience 07:39 the fact that God is merciful and I want to... 07:41 I don't want to close this on the negative... 07:43 I want to close it on the positive 07:44 so I want to bring out Manasseh for example, 07:46 wicked King... he was after Ahab... 07:50 Ahab was bad... you think Ahab was bad... 07:52 Manasseh was worse, so bad... 07:54 and God took him... I mean... sent him to Babylon... 07:56 took him to Babylon... it was... 07:57 and if you look at... because there's two records... 07:59 of "repeat and enlarge... " 08:01 there are two records of his history... 08:02 one is in Kings... the other is in Chronicles... 08:05 if you read Kings... Manasseh is lost... 08:07 he was taken captive... he's done... 08:09 you read Chronicles... after he's taken captive 08:12 he turns his face to the Lord, 08:13 he repents and the Lord restores him 08:16 and takes him back to Israel... back to Judah... 08:19 and he fortifies and then he knew that the Lord was God. 08:23 Ivor: So, once lost... not always lost... 08:25 James: Yes... that's what I wanted to say. 08:27 Ivor: And once saved... not always saved... 08:29 James: Yes... Yvonne: Come on... I love it... 08:30 Jason: Now, the whole thing, 08:33 Lucifer... falling out of heaven and all that... 08:36 it shows how dangerous pride is 08:39 because if he would have repented and truly been sorry 08:44 for what he's done, God would have forgiven him. 08:47 Ivor: Absolutely... 08:48 because God is the same yesterday and today and forever, 08:51 but it was not like, God was like, 08:52 "I'm not going to offer you mercy... " no... 08:54 but he rejected that mercy. 08:56 Jason: He was so proud that... James: He was unwilling... 09:00 Yvonne: The second thing that 09:03 I just want to bring out from this 09:04 was... a lot of people say... "I read the Bible... 09:09 why do we have so many Denominations?" 09:11 Like, "Why isn't it just clear, why can't I just read the Bible 09:16 and know... this is where I'm supposed to be?" 09:18 I've had... I know people who wonder 09:21 about why all the Denominations? 09:23 This answers that... this addresses that... 09:27 James: This history addresses that... 09:29 Yvonne: And I never knew that it was alluded to... 09:32 in the church of Sardis, the Reformation... 09:35 the Reformers stopped 09:37 at a certain point and didn't continue, 09:40 that's why we have all these Denominations. 09:42 James: And if you... oh, go ahead... 09:44 Ivor: I was going to say I think it's a good place actually 09:46 to recap that history 09:48 and that will kind of launch us into the Philadelphia church 09:53 because these two churches actually go together, 09:55 they are like bookends 09:56 so, we saw that the first four churches, 10:00 Ephesus started out pure but lost its first love, 10:04 that reminds us of Adam and Eve, the creation of man... perfect, 10:08 but then they fell from grace... lost their first love, 10:10 second church... Smyrna... 10:12 points us to the period of persecution in the early church 10:16 and that reflects the history of persecution 10:19 among God's people in Egypt that's in the Book of Exodus, 10:21 then we saw the third church as where... 10:23 the church comes out of persecution 10:27 and now they are beginning to compromise "in good times," 10:32 just as Old Testament Israel enters into the Promised Land, 10:36 escapes out of captivity, enters the Promised Land 10:39 and they begin to compromise in the very same way, 10:43 they choose a king over their Priest 10:45 just as... the early church... chose Constantine 10:49 to be protected by Rome over their High Priest... 10:52 Jesus Christ in heaven. 10:53 The Fourth Church... 10:55 we saw... pointing us to that power called Babylon, 10:58 just as... because of the compromise 11:01 this woman, Jezebel, ends up dominating the church 11:07 in the same way the Old Testament history 11:09 you have the Children of Israel... 11:10 because of their compromise in the Promise Land, 11:12 end up in Babylonian captivity 11:15 perfect parallel... 11:17 James: By the way it was Ahab and Jezebel 11:19 for whom the final judgment was brought... 11:21 because of their apostasy 11:22 even though we read it, the Bible said, 11:24 "I'm going to wait till he passes... till he dies... 11:26 but I'm still going to bring that judgment... " 11:28 and that judgment was Babylonian captivity. 11:30 Ivor: They... they... instigated... 11:32 they brought upon the Nation of Israel that judgment. 11:36 Ivor: So it's no... it's no "chance thing" 11:38 that Jezebel herself is mentioned in this church... 11:40 Ivor: Within that context, absolutely... 11:42 and that's like, Chronicles, Kings... 11:44 right after Chronicles and Kings you have the Book of Ezra 11:48 and the Book of Ezra talks about Cyrus... 11:52 this man named Cyrus... who comes as a Deliverer, 11:56 he makes a decree which basically dries up Babylon, 12:00 the rivers of Babylon are dried up, 12:04 the people leave Babylon, he opens the gates of Babylon, 12:07 so that the people can leave and go back 12:09 to build spiritual Jerusalem. 12:12 Guess what we just learned about Sardis? 12:14 Martin Luther makes a "decree" if you will, 12:18 against that power described as Babylon 12:21 people start to leave her, what is the task? 12:24 To go back to build spiritual Jerusalem 12:28 God's house, but what did we find? 12:30 We found that when they went there, 12:33 it's interesting... in the Book of Nehemiah, 12:36 Nehemiah enquires about those who had "escaped" 12:39 and he used the word, "escaped" 12:41 what does Sardis mean? James: Escape... 12:43 Ivor: The ones escaping... 12:44 Yvonne: Wow! Ivor: The ones escaping... 12:46 and so, he wants to know the condition, 12:48 what's going on with them? 12:50 What does he find out? 12:51 That they went there and the House of the Lord 12:53 is still not built, 12:55 they were beginning to build their own houses... 12:58 building their own houses... 13:01 while the House of the Lord lay desolate. 13:04 James: And so you have all these different houses here, 13:07 you have all these different Denominations 13:09 and now God wants to bring us out of that 13:11 and it reminds me of my own experience, 13:12 this is practical and it's personal, 13:14 I was raised a Catholic so I come into this 13:17 in the Dark Ages... inexperience... 13:19 I come into this in the Dark Ages, 13:21 I'm an Altar Boy, I go to church every week, 13:23 I go to Catholic School, I'd say my prayers every night, 13:26 as I grow up and become a teenager, 13:29 I'm "Catholic" by name only 13:31 and I'm saying my prayers every night 13:33 whether I'm drunk or sober, 13:34 I'm going to Confession every once in a while 13:36 when I go back to see my mom in England 13:38 but I'm not really into the Word of God 13:40 and I'm not really connected with Jesus, 13:42 then as I turn 21... 13:45 I go through this incredible experience... 13:47 this conversion experience and I accept Christ as my Savior 13:49 and I have people that have been witnessing to me at work 13:52 and I join this non-denominational church 13:54 and I start going to a Pentecostal Church 13:57 and these folk... Ivor: You enter Sardis... 13:59 James: Yeah... I go through this incredible change 14:02 and I'm growing and I'm just hungry for the Word of God 14:05 and of course in the Pentecostal church 14:07 there's an emphasis on the gifts of the Spirit 14:09 which is a good thing... I mean... 14:10 we want the gifts of the Spirit 14:11 in the church that should be there 14:13 in the non-denominational church, 14:14 there's an emphasis on basic relationship with Christ, 14:18 baptism, forgiveness, 14:19 that kind of thing, so I'm into that, 14:22 but then my sister comes on the scene 14:24 and she's been studying with this other denomination 14:26 that is teaching her things 14:29 that are totally weird in my understanding. 14:32 Ivor: Almost like Philadelphia. 14:34 James: Yes, one of the things that she's teaching me about... 14:37 she's telling me about is, 14:38 that you should go to church on Saturday. 14:41 "Church on Saturday!" I'm thinking, "That is crazy," 14:44 I'm thinking... and the thing is... 14:47 is that a lot of people who would hear that, because I know, 14:49 a lot of my friends I shared that with later... 14:52 there were just like, "No way... " 14:53 they are not even going to follow up on it 14:54 but I followed up on it, 14:56 I went to the Word of God and the point is... 14:58 is that this admonition is, 15:00 "Go to the Word of God and follow the Word of God. " 15:03 Martin Luther started by following the Word of God, 15:05 Wycliffe started by preaching the Word of God, 15:07 Calvin, Zwingli, Huss, Jerome... 15:09 all these Reformers... Knox... all of them... 15:11 looking at the Word of God, 15:13 Tyndale translating it into the language 15:15 of the common people in England, 15:17 and these people are getting the Word of God 15:18 and they're following the Word of God... 15:19 and when they find things in the Word of God, 15:21 they're being persecuted for that thing 15:23 and so they isolate themselves 15:24 but now God is bringing all of those little things, 15:27 these little truths together in one Denomination 15:30 and as I'm looking at the Word of God 15:33 and I'm saying, "Wow! the Sabbath is in the Word of God, 15:35 the seventh day is the... Saturday is the seventh day, 15:38 it is the Sabbath, it's the Lord's Day... " 15:41 I didn't realize that, so the thing that... 15:43 that God is bringing to us now 15:45 as we get into the Philadelphia Church, 15:46 Philadelphia begins in about 1798, it means, "Brotherly Love" 15:52 it is the missionary age, it brings us to 15:56 what we understand to be, 15:57 in history, the Millerite Movement 15:59 and it brings us to an experience of love 16:02 that is God given... God breathed... 16:05 that causes us to just want to be all out for God, 16:08 whether it's missionary work... whether it's following the Word 16:11 and I remember, all the evidence that I had 16:13 all of the things that people shared with me, 16:15 all of the warnings, "Don't become an Adventist," 16:18 all of the encouragement, "follow the Word of God... " 16:21 I remember the one thing that hit home with me 16:23 was when I read the words of Jesus, 16:25 "If you love me, keep my commandments" 16:27 and I was in love with Jesus, I was in love with Jesus 16:30 and that is where we find this church of Philadelphia, 16:33 it's all about love, 16:35 the love relationship is being restored completely and totally 16:38 in the Philadelphian Church. 16:39 So, let's read those verses, Jason, read those verses for us 16:43 of the Philadelphian Church, begins in verse 7 of chapter 3 16:47 and let's read all the way down to verse 13. 16:50 Jason: All right... 16:51 "And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; 16:54 These things saith he that is holy, 16:57 he that is true, he that hath the key of David, 17:00 he that openeth and no man shutteth; 17:02 and shutteth, and no man openeth; 17:04 I know thy works: behold I have set before thee 17:08 an open door, and no man can shut it; 17:10 for thou has a little strength, and hast kept my word, 17:15 and hast not denied my name. 17:16 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, 17:20 which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; 17:24 behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, 17:28 and to know that I have loved thee. 17:31 Because thou has kept the word of my patience, 17:35 I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, 17:38 which shall come upon all the world, 17:40 to try them that dwell upon the earth. 17:43 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, 17:47 that no man take thy crown. 17:50 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar 17:53 in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: 17:57 and I will write upon him the name of my God, 18:00 and the name of the city of my God, 18:03 which is new Jerusalem, 18:05 which cometh down out of heaven from my God: 18:08 and I will write upon him my new name. 18:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear 18:14 what the Spirit saith unto the churches. " 18:16 James: Amen... Jason you do an excellent job reading, 18:19 I just want to say that every word... every word... 18:21 this is beautiful, this is powerful, 18:24 this is the experience God wants us to have, 18:27 this is renewed love experience and I don't know... 18:30 there were a few phrases in here, 18:32 I'm not sure that you caught them 18:33 but there's one phrase that I just wanted to highlight 18:35 and that is... did you notice where He said, 18:37 He mentioned again, 18:38 "Those which are in the synagogue of Satan 18:40 will say they are Jews and are not... " 18:43 do you remember that from a previous church? 18:44 All: Hmmm... hmmm... 18:46 James: There's a previous church where that same phrase is used, 18:49 "those who say they're Jews and they're not... " 18:52 Smyrna... now what does Smyrna and Philadelphia have in common? 18:55 Ivor: No rebuke... James: No rebuke... 18:57 when you're undergoing persecution 18:59 and when you are filled with brotherly love 19:02 and what happens is... when you're undergoing persecution, 19:06 a demarcation takes place, 19:08 a distinction takes place 19:09 between those who say they're Jews... 19:11 and we're talking about spiritual Jews now, 19:13 who say they're true followers of Christ 19:14 and are not... and when you're filled with brotherly love, 19:17 a demarcation... a distinction takes place 19:20 between those who say they're followers of Christ and are not, 19:23 these are the two churches that that phrase is used in 19:28 because there are the two experiences 19:30 that show the difference between those who say they are 19:33 and those who say they aren't, really important. 19:35 Ivor: Absolutely, so this history then 19:40 points us to... as we talked about the Millerite Movement 19:45 which would bring us down to that time prophecy 19:47 of 1844... so again if we're looking at 19:50 our time markers... 70 Weeks... 1,260... 2,300... 19:56 church number 6 introduces us to that 2,300-Day Prophecy, right? 20:03 Actually it brings us to the close of the 1,260 20:06 and moves us forward to the 2,300-Day Prophecy 20:12 and in that Movement, the focus was the Sanctuary 20:18 and the cleansing of the Sanctuary 20:22 which brings us into what? 20:23 The understanding that we have just moved 20:27 from Holy Place to Most Holy Place, right? 20:30 Now see that that's happening at the end of the 7 churches 20:34 right? It's not in church number 2 or church number 1 20:37 or church number 4 or 5, 20:39 it's happening in church number 6 20:41 so we know when we get to church number 7, 20:43 we are in the... we are in the time of judgment, 20:46 we are in the 2,300-Day Prophecy... 20:48 James: Post 1844... Ivor: Absolutely... 20:50 and the purpose of the Philadelphia church 20:52 was to bring unity... 20:54 it gathered together all the people into one Movement, 20:58 we understand that Movement to be the end-time Movement, 21:02 the Remnant who keep the commandments of God 21:04 and have the faith of Jesus and what they did was 21:07 they built the house of the Lord. 21:09 James: Hmmm... hmmm... love it... 21:10 Ivor: now here's why this is interesting... 21:12 because remember... remember our history check right? 21:15 We always want to cross check what we're coming up with 21:17 so let's go back to the history once more 21:20 and we just laid out, first church, second church, 21:23 third church, fourth church, 21:24 fifth church... we saw... 21:25 that under this decree from Cyrus, 21:29 Ezra and others went forth to do this work 21:32 but after a while... the work waned, right? 21:35 So, what happens? 21:38 Everyone is like focusing on their own houses, 21:41 this Reformation begins but it dies out 21:44 so who does God bring up on the scene? 21:46 He brings up on the scene a man by the name of Nehemiah. 21:49 Nehemiah has been called to do what? 21:53 Finish the work... so what does Nehemiah do? 21:57 He goes to Jerusalem, he sees all that is broken down 22:00 and he gathers the people together 22:05 to unite upon finishing the work 22:09 and if you read Nehemiah chapter 2, 22:12 you'll see one word appearing over and over and over, 22:15 repair, repair, repair, repair... 22:19 well, guess what God's people are called? 22:21 James and Yvonne: The repairers of the breach... 22:24 Ivor: The repairers of the breach, Isaiah 58... 22:27 so let me share some things with you very quickly 22:29 that happened in the Book of Nehemiah. 22:31 In Nehemiah, there are people who are trying to hinder 22:35 the work of rebuilding the city. 22:39 Yvonne: Tobiah and Sanballat. 22:40 Ivor: Absolutely, right? They are under persecution, 22:43 under persecution the people come together, 22:46 they got a sword in one hand and a hammer in the other, 22:49 they're focused on their work, all the people are of one mind. 22:53 Within this story, 22:55 it's in Nehemiah chapter 7 verse 64 22:59 it tells us there 23:04 that there is like a roll call 23:06 and all whose names are not found on the genealogy, 23:10 are put away from the priesthood as polluted. 23:13 Almost like this work of judgment begins to occur, 23:17 okay... Yvonne: Hmmm... 23:18 Ivor: This is absolutely amazing in Nehemiah 7 verse 67 and 68, 23:24 it tells us that roughly about 50,000 people 23:27 were a part of this Reformation, I don't know if you... 23:31 well, I asked this question a little bit earlier before 23:34 so, how many people were a part of the Millerite Movement? 23:38 who came out of the... these other churches to participate? 23:42 50,000 people... James: 50,000 people... 23:45 Yvonne: Wow! 23:46 Ivor: Nehemiah chapter 8, 23:47 the Law is brought before the people 23:49 and read in their hearing so that they can understand, 23:51 in this Philadelphia Movement, the Law is given preeminence, 23:55 in other words, the Law is brought to... 23:57 to the minds of the people, in Nehemiah chapter... 24:00 chapter 10, there is a sealing... 24:05 there is a sealing that occurs in Nehemiah chapter 10, 24:10 well, guess what? That points us to the fact 24:12 that we can look and see, you know what? 24:14 A sealing work begins to take place 24:17 and I shouldn't even use the word, "begin' 24:20 but a sealing work is made prominent 24:23 within the end-time church and then the last thing you see 24:28 is that in Nehemiah chapter 13 there is Sabbath Reformation. 24:33 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 24:34 so when you look at all these things happening 24:37 under the rule of Nehemiah and you compare it 24:39 historically with what's happening 24:42 in the Philadelphia Church, it's beyond words. 24:47 Yvonne: Wow! 24:48 James: It fits because the Philadelphia Church 24:50 remember... takes us past 1844 to the 1850s, 24:53 It's not till 1850s that we start seeing this transition 24:57 into the Laodicean experience, so during the Millerite Movement 25:01 and beyond... into the 1840s... the Sabbath is discovered 25:04 judgment, of course, is proclaimed, 25:06 you have the 42,000 25:09 I think it was in the Book of Nehemiah, 25:10 you have 50,000... Ivor: 42,000 plus 7,000 others. 25:15 James: Okay, so it's almost 50,000... 25:18 James: it's 42,300... plus another... 25:21 Ivor: It's 49,924... 25:24 Laughter... Yvonne: Wow! 25:28 James: It's amazing how this is all coming together 25:30 and when you look at the church of Philadelphia, 25:33 this is the experience that God wants us to... 25:36 He never intended that we would 25:37 fall into the Laodicean condition, 25:39 of course, God foresaw that... He sees that... 25:40 He understands that... He knows that experience... 25:43 but He wants us to actually experience the repentance, 25:45 we'll talk about that... in the Laodicean message 25:47 the repentance that brings us back 25:49 to this Brotherly Love experience 25:50 and the Brotherly Love Experience will also coincide 25:54 with the Smyrna persecution in the end of time 25:56 so both of those experiences 25:58 will be the experiences of God's true people in the end of time 26:01 and that's Idealism... Ivor: Absolutely. 26:02 James: that's understanding the history of these churches, 26:05 how each one has a certain age that it applies to 26:08 but the principles of that history... always apply 26:11 to every... all of God's people. 26:13 Ivor: We can even say now that today, 26:14 there are people in Thyatira, there are others in Sardis... 26:19 but our mission is to pull them into Philadelphia 26:24 right, and then prepare them for Laodicea. 26:28 James: Right... Yvonne: Hmmm... 26:30 Ivor: So if it all ties in together 26:31 in so many different ways, you see these patterns 26:35 that just show the gospel from like 360 degrees. 26:37 Ivor: That's what we're doing, we're like a camera 26:40 moving around the Bible... 26:42 moving around the Book of Revelation... 26:43 and showing it from several different angles. 26:45 Yvonne: Oh! I love it. 26:46 James: And that's what the Book of Revelation does, 26:48 it naturally brings us right into this... 26:51 this place where we can see 26:52 the 360 degree angle of the entire Bible. 26:55 Revelation forces us 26:57 by using these symbols and these phrases, 26:59 forces us to go back and look at the history of the Bible 27:02 and to go back and look at the history of the church 27:04 and to bring it all together so you can see the... 27:06 God doesn't want us to forget any of the past, 27:08 not in the Old Testament 27:10 and not in the history of the Nations... 27:12 Ivor: They were written for our admonition. 27:14 Ivor: "Upon whom the ends of the world are come. " 27:16 James: We are out of time. Yvonne: Wow... 27:18 James: What are we going to tell people 27:20 who want to ask questions? 27:21 Jason: That they need to send their video submissions 27:23 to sss@3abn. org 27:27 that's sss like Salvation in Symbols and Signs 27:30 at 3abn. org 27:32 James: Jason, pray for us, take us out. 27:33 Jason: "Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much 27:35 for this beautiful love story that we're learning about 27:39 thank you so much for equipping us with signs of the times 27:42 and making it in a format that we can comprehend 27:46 with due diligence and prayer and studying... 27:49 please be with the people at home 27:53 and inspire them to do their due diligence as well 27:56 and allow this program to be a blessing to them, 27:58 in Jesus' name we pray, amen. " 28:00 All: "Amen... " |
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