Participants: Ivor Meyers (Host), James Rafferty (Host), Jason Bradley, Yvonne Lewis
Series Code: SISS
Program Code: SISS000013A
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00:31 We don't want to go too fast, we don't want to go too fast...
00:34 we're having an excellent journey, 00:37 an excellent experience in the Book of Revelation 00:40 and I believe that we don't really have an agenda... 00:44 a timetable... we want to go back now, I think 00:47 and... and... look in more detail 00:50 at the verses concerning the Philadelphia Church, 00:52 now, there are two reasons we want to do that, 00:53 one is... there's still a lot here to cover, 00:56 there's still a lot here we need to understand 00:58 and number two is... this is our ultimate destiny... 01:01 Philadelphia is our ultimate destiny, 01:03 Laodicea is the age in which we live, 01:07 that's... that's just par for the course 01:10 but if we're going to be able to deal with Laodicea and that age, 01:14 if we're going to be able to escape and understand 01:17 how it is that God wants us to get out of that condition... 01:21 that Laodicean condition, you know, 01:22 He's knocking on the door, Philadelphia is the goal... 01:25 Philadelphia is the goal... 01:26 God isn't leading us out of Laodicea into nothing, 01:28 He's leading us out of Laodicea 01:30 back into this experience of Brotherly Love 01:31 so, I want us to go through these verses together 01:35 and just try to understand some of these phrases 01:38 and, of course, we need the... 01:39 we need to have a word of prayer first 01:41 because the Holy Spirit is going to be our teacher, 01:42 so, Jason, would you have a word of prayer for us? 01:44 All right, "Dear Heavenly Father thank you for another day 01:49 of life that we can study your word, 01:51 not only do we need you here but we want you here, 01:55 so please be with us today 01:57 as we study Revelation 01:59 and help us to be able to retain the information 02:02 that we studied, in Jesus' name we pray, amen. " 02:06 All: "Amen... " 02:07 So, just this first verse, 02:09 "To the angel in the church of Philadelphia write; 02:12 these things saith he that is holy 02:15 he that is true, he that has the key of David, 02:20 he that opens, and no man shuts; and shuts, and no man opens... " 02:24 What's that talking about? "The Key of David... " 02:28 Ivor: So, as we look this verse and listen to Christ saying, 02:35 "I have the key of David," 02:36 I think it's important for us to understand 02:39 what the key of David is, so let's go back to Isaiah 22, 02:42 and in Isaiah 22, beginning with verse 1, 02:47 the Bible says there, 02:51 Isaiah 22 beginning with verse 21, 02:54 it says, "I will clothe him with thy robe, 02:57 and strengthen him with thy girdle, 02:59 and I will commit thy government into his hand: 03:03 and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, 03:06 and to the house of Judah. 03:08 And the key of the house of David 03:11 will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, 03:14 and none shall shut; 03:16 and he shall shut, and none shall open. " 03:18 James: That's exactly the same language 03:20 that we find in Revelation. 03:21 Ivor: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, 03:22 so, when we think of this... the key represents 03:27 "having access to... " 03:29 to open up and when you think 03:31 of something that's locked, you don't have access to it 03:33 so Christ is telling us here, 03:34 "I'm giving you access to something... " 03:37 right? so what's He giving us access to? 03:39 Well, the key of David is the key of the Government, 03:43 "the government shall be upon his shoulders," 03:45 so let's go back to Isaiah chapter 9... 03:47 James: But let me add something to that, 03:48 because I think, it's appropriate right here too 03:51 and that is when Jesus was talking to the lawyers 03:54 and the lawyers in Luke chapter 11... 03:56 the lawyers... that word "lawyer" means, 03:58 "someone who is an expert according to the law, 04:01 the Legal Laws, Ceremonial Laws, 04:03 an expert in the Mosaic Law... " 04:06 in other words, the law of Moses, 04:07 that included all of the laws, He says to them... 04:10 He says... "You have the key 04:12 and you're not letting people enter in... " 04:15 let me just read the verse 04:16 because I think... the verses is is pretty clear, 04:18 "Woe to you, lawyers! 04:19 for you have taken away the key of knowledge, 04:21 you have entered not in yourselves, 04:23 and them that were entering in you have hindered. " 04:25 So the key is the government... 04:27 is the key... is also the key of knowledge... 04:29 in other words... God wants to open to us knowledge 04:31 He wants to open up to us a revelation of His Government, 04:35 He wants to take us further in understanding of the law... 04:38 the Mosaic Law... the Ceremonial Laws... 04:40 all of that... 04:42 and I think that's connected to the Sanctuary, 04:43 He wants to take us further in our understanding of this, 04:46 Jesus says, "You closed it up... 04:47 you lawyers have closed it up... " but now He says, 04:49 "I have that key and I'm going to open it, 04:51 I'm going to give you more knowledge. " 04:53 Ivor: Look at Isaiah 9, verse 6 and 7, 04:56 it says this, "For unto us a child is born, 04:59 unto us a son is given: and the government 05:01 shall be upon his shoulders... " we just read that in Isaiah 22, 05:05 Ivor: "his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, 05:08 The mighty God, The everlasting Father, 05:10 The Prince of Peace. 05:11 And of the increase of his government 05:14 and peace there shall be no end, 05:16 upon the throne of David, 05:18 and upon his kingdom, to order it, 05:21 and to establish it with judgment and with justice 05:24 from henceforth even for ever. 05:26 The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. " 05:29 So, I think of it this way... the verse you just read, James, 05:34 about the key of knowledge... not letting people enter in... 05:39 a key opens up a door which leads to a particular path 05:46 or a particular way, you shut that door, 05:49 you cannot enter, Jesus said, "I am the door," 05:53 right? and He says, He invites us to follow Him 05:57 so that key really opens up the way of God to us, 06:00 so that we can enter in and walk in that way, 06:04 well, guess where the way of God is found? 06:07 It is found in the Sanctuary... "Thy way of God... " 06:11 James: "is in the Sanctuary... " 06:13 Ivor: The way you do things, the way your government operates 06:16 James: The plan of salvation. 06:18 Ivor: The plan of salvation, everything... 06:20 the entire Scripture... 06:22 your understanding the entire key to knowledge 06:25 is the key to the sanctuary, 06:26 so David said, "even with the wicked, 06:29 I didn't understand their end, until I went into the sanctuary" 06:34 James: Psalm 73 verse17... 06:35 Ivor: Psalm 73 verse 17... 06:36 "I didn't understand the end of the wicked 06:40 till I went into the sanctuary," 06:41 so the Sanctuary reveals the way of God... 06:45 the Government of God... 06:46 by-the-way... that's where God's throne is 06:49 and the throne is the symbol of His Government, 06:52 so when Jesus says to the Philadelphia church, 06:55 "I have the key of David... " 06:58 He's saying, "I have something special for you 07:01 that will open up an understanding for you 07:04 about how my Government operates 07:07 and guess what was given to the Philadelphian church? 07:10 They received an understanding of God's heavenly Government 07:14 by understanding the Sanctuary message. 07:18 Yvonne: Hmmm... 07:19 James: And it's really interesting too because, 07:21 because, it says, 07:23 "I'm going to open this door and no man can shut it," 07:26 so the implication here is... 07:27 is that people tried to shut it... 07:29 people tried to shut out this knowledge, 07:30 people are still trying to shut out this knowledge, 07:33 in other words, 07:34 when you look at the history of the Millerite Movement, 07:35 you see that they went through a 07:37 devastating disappointment in 1844... 07:39 and we're going to look at that more 07:40 when we get further into Revelation, 07:42 it's really identified and magnified in Revelation 10 07:45 but it's touched on right here, 07:46 and what happened when they went through this devastation 07:49 was... people kind of mocked the message and they said, 07:52 "Ah, that wasn't true... " and they said, 07:53 "No, it was true, it had to be true," 07:55 and then they realized that... 07:57 that their disappointment was based on a misunderstanding 08:00 of the Sanctuary... and so, this is the promise, 08:03 I want to open up your understanding, 08:05 I'm going to give you the key to knowledge, 08:06 I'm going to give you the key of the Government of God... 08:07 I'm going to help you understand this Sanctuary, 08:09 before this time, most Christians believed 08:12 the Sanctuary was the earth 08:14 and the idea that the Sanctuary was going to be cleansed 08:17 at the end of the 2,300 days, 08:18 was taken to mean that Jesus was coming back 08:21 to cleanse the earth with fire from sin and sinners, 08:24 the misunderstanding was, the Sanctuary was the earth, 08:27 the Bible teaches that the Sanctuary is in heaven 08:30 and that Jesus now is opening the door 08:32 into a further understanding of this Sanctuary truth 08:36 by taking us from the Holy Place 08:38 where He had been ministering for years, 08:39 into the next apartment of the heavenly Sanctuary... 08:42 the Most Holy Place... Yvonne: Hmmm... 08:44 Ivor: So... so think about this, remember our timeline, right? 08:47 70 weeks... 08:48 we saw... the first church revolved around the 70 weeks, 08:53 okay, and, we find Jesus ministering in the Holy Place, 08:58 right, seven-branched candlestick... 09:00 we get down to the second church we find, it's the interim, 09:04 between the 70 weeks and the 1,260... 09:06 we get down to the third church, we find the same thing, 09:08 so, first church... 31 A.D. to 100 A.D., 09:12 second church... 100 A.D. to about 313 A.D., 09:15 third church... 313 or 323 roughly... 09:20 down to about 538... 09:22 the fourth church... we saw... brought us into the 1,260... 09:26 538 A.D... that's when the 1,260 year prophecy begins... 09:31 538 A.D. takes us down to 1,517 with the Sardis church, 09:36 the Sardis church goes from the Reformation 09:39 all the way down to 1,798... 09:41 then we're introduced to church of Philadelphia, 09:44 it is after 1798 and it is introducing us 09:50 to the 2,300-day Prophecy, to cross check that 09:55 Christ says, "I have the key of David" 09:58 I'm about to open a door that no man can shut 10:02 and He's making reference to the door between the Holy Place, 10:08 the door that leads from the Holy Place 10:10 into the Most Holy Place where we find judgment beginning, 10:16 the final judgment, the final work of God 10:18 and that work commences 10:21 when God's people finally reunite again, 10:23 to have a completed gospel not a partial gospel... Sardis, 10:29 but a completed gospel, 10:31 now that the completed gospel has been restored, 10:34 judgment can begin to go forward. 10:36 James: And I see this also, Ivor, there's a connection here 10:40 in verse 10, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, 10:44 I'm going to keep you from the hour of temptation 10:47 which shall come upon the whole world, 10:48 to try them that dwell on the earth. " 10:50 Now there are two points here, the first one is... 10:52 "you've kept the word of my patience," 10:54 is a direct connection to Revelation 14, 10:56 because in Revelation 14 and verse 12, 10:59 it describes a people who have "the patience of the saints," 11:04 it says, "here is the patience of the saints... " 11:07 so you've kept the word of my patience, 11:08 you have the patience of the saints, 11:10 what did these people do? 11:11 They keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. 11:15 Where are the commandments of God? 11:16 In the Most Holy Place, in the Ark of the Covenant 11:19 and it's disclosed in Revelation 11 and verse 19. 11:21 Ivor: Absolutely. 11:23 James: So here is one connection, 11:24 then you have the hour of temptation 11:25 that's going to come up on all the world. 11:27 Basically, what we see God allowing here 11:30 as we get further into the book, 11:31 but we're in the Philadelphian Age 11:33 so we're there... we're just not expanding it yet 11:35 until we get into the other part of Revelation 11:38 is... He's allowing a test 11:40 that's going to come upon all the world 11:41 small, great, rich, poor, free and bond, 11:43 everyone's going to be... 11:44 the whole world... is going to be tested 11:46 and in that hour of test, 11:47 you're going to be kept, because why? 11:49 Because you are walking further in the light... 11:52 you are walking through that door, 11:54 you have seen what I have for you in the Most Holy Place, 11:57 you're recognizing the goal 11:59 and you're going to embrace by my patience... 12:03 you're going to embrace that light which is... revealed 12:05 "keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus" 12:08 and so I'm going to keep you from the hour of temptation... 12:10 being kept from the hour of temptation... in this... 12:12 as it says in Revelation 14 and I love this, 12:14 is the experience of following the lamb wherever He goes, 12:19 "follow the lamb... " 12:21 He has gone in to the Most Holy Place 12:24 and He wants us to follow Him in 12:25 to the Most Holy Place, just follow the lamb... 12:27 you'll be okay if you just follow the Lamb 12:29 and of course the Lamb is... the Word... 12:31 the Word of God... made flesh... so the Word of God... 12:35 the Lamb of God... He wants to woo us... 12:37 the love story again... He wants us to be the bride... 12:39 He wants us to be prepared... He wants us to be robed... 12:42 He wants us to follow Him all the way... 12:44 no man can shut that door, 12:45 if you listen to men... the door is going to be shut, 12:47 the Lawyers in Christ's day tried to shut up the... 12:50 the key of knowledge... 12:51 but if you follow me... you're good. 12:54 Ivor: I don't know if you remember how we talked about the 12:58 three compartments of the Sanctuary... 13:00 right, there's the Outer Court 13:02 which had the Altar of Sacrifice and the Laver, 13:05 there was the Holy Place 13:07 that has the three articles of furniture, 13:09 and then there's the Most Holy Place, 13:11 so this understanding of the Sanctuary really helps us here 13:15 because, remember in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, 13:19 we're being pointed to the Altar of Sacrifice, 13:22 right, and from the Book of Acts... 13:27 all the way over to Jude, we're looking at the Laver, 13:32 all that's the Outer Court, 13:34 but when we get to Revelation, what we see is... 13:37 Christ standing in the midst of the candlesticks, 13:40 we're see Him in the Altar of Incense, 13:43 we see Him at the Table of Shewbread, 13:45 right, but within the context of the seven churches, 13:48 this now all comes together when you realize, 13:51 "Whoa, each prophecy is like moving us... 13:55 stage by stage to the Sanctuary 13:57 so 70 weeks points us to the Outer Court, 14:00 the 1,260 points us to that period of time 14:03 covering three to four churches 14:06 and then the 2,300 is what... is when Christ is saying, 14:11 "I'm going to open this door that no man can shut" 14:14 and brings us into that Most Holy Place 14:16 which sets the foundation, so, put it like this, 14:19 if we didn't have the seven seals 14:20 or the seven trumpets, 14:22 just the understanding of the seven churches 14:25 let's just say, all we had were the seven churches 14:28 and then Revelation 12... 13... 14... 14:31 that alone... right, from Revelation... 14:34 from the sixth church onward, 14:36 you would have Revelation 12, 13, 14... 14:39 because that's where all... Most Holy Place... 14:42 events now begin to occur, so phrase it another way... 14:48 the 70 and the 1,260... you find them occupying 14:53 most of the first church, second church, third church, 14:56 fourth church, fifth church... 14:58 when you get to the sixth church, 15:00 the 70 and the 1,260 fall off the scene. 15:03 Now we're dealing with 2,300-Day 1844 language, 15:10 focus... and that's what this open door does, 15:16 it brings an understanding 15:18 this key unlocks the understanding of the Sanctuary 15:22 as it relates to end-time events. 15:24 James: And you know, 15:25 the seven churches is to the Book of Revelation 15:28 what Daniel 2 is to the Book of Daniel. 15:29 Ivor: Absolutely. 15:30 James: Daniel 2 is the basic framework 15:32 and you have this image... all of it is there, 15:35 everything is there, we have the image, 15:37 it goes from Babylon, Medo-Persia, 15:38 Greece, Rome, you got the ten toes, 15:40 you've got the nations of Europe, 15:41 you've got the miry clay mixed with the iron 15:44 and Church-State... mixed with civil power, 15:47 and then you've got the stone 15:49 that comes and smites the image at the feet 15:51 and becomes a great mountain and fills the whole earth, 15:53 the whole thing is there, 15:54 second coming... the whole thing is there, 15:56 even thousand years... it's all there... 15:57 but the details... the details... 15:59 so, the seven seals and the seven trumpets 16:01 and Revelation 12... are going to give us more details, 16:03 but what is it that says here, 16:06 "you've kept the word of my patience... " 16:07 oh, what does that mean? 16:09 Oh, Revelation 14 tells us what that means, right? 16:10 "The word of my patience... " 16:11 now why don't you look at this verse that follows, 16:14 it says, verse 12, it says, "Him that overcomes, 16:17 will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, 16:19 he shall go no more out... " 16:22 Out of what? The Temple... 16:24 "and I will write upon him the name of my God, 16:27 and the name of the city of my God... " 16:28 that is... "I'm going to seal him with the seal of God, 16:31 the name of the city of my God... the new Jerusalem, 16:33 this is talking about the sealing now 16:34 because the sealing takes place 16:36 during the Philadelphia experience 16:38 that started right there, 16:39 the sealing time began during the Philadelphia experience, 16:42 so "I'm going to write on him the name of my God, 16:44 I'm going to write on him the new Jerusalem, 16:47 and which comes down from heaven from my God: 16:49 and I will write upon him my new name. " 16:50 So God's people are going to be sealed in this time now, 16:53 here's the point I want to make about this verse... 16:56 Ivor: Let me... let me just back up 16:58 to something you just said, James: Okay. 17:00 Ivor: So, in Revelation 14 and verse 1, it says, 17:02 "And I looked, and lo, a Lamb stood on Mount Zion, 17:05 and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, 17:07 having his Father's name written in their foreheads. " 17:12 We know that the seal of God is received in the forehead 17:16 and so the seal of God is... in a sense... 17:20 the Father's name being written 17:22 so this correlates us... it let's us know 17:24 that we are definitely looking at end-time events here, 17:28 in Revelation chapter 3 when it tells about Philadelphia... 17:31 having the name of God written upon them. 17:34 James: Yes, and it talks about in Revelation 22... 17:38 it talks about the fact that they... 17:41 "the redeemed will see His face 17:42 and His name shall be in their foreheads" 17:44 so everyone that's in heaven is going to have His name 17:47 in their foreheads and the name of God 17:48 is synonymous with the character of God... 17:50 is synonymous with the Law of God. 17:51 Ivor: That's right. 17:52 James: This is another reference to the Law... 17:54 in the Most Holy Place. 17:55 and here's something really... 17:56 Jason: Now, so, what about the Mark of the Beast then? 17:58 and the name of God is written on the forehead, 18:01 the Mark of the Beast is... written on the forehead as well? 18:05 James: Yes... no... yes... or in the hands, or in the hands 18:09 so here's a real quick response to that... 18:13 to that statement and that is, 18:16 we can only receive the seal of God in the forehead 18:19 because... to be sealed... with the name of God 18:22 is to have His image reflected in our hearts, in our minds, 18:26 so we are like God... 18:28 the Mark of the Beast can be received 18:30 in the forehead or in the hand because the Mark of the Beast is 18:34 either reflecting the image of the beast 18:36 which ultimately is selfishness, versus selflessness, 18:40 or just going along with it, 18:42 in other words, you don't really actually believe this, 18:45 you don't really actually hear this 18:48 but because of the financial pressure, 18:50 the economic pressure, the death threat, 18:53 you're going to go along with it. 18:54 All: Hmmm... hmmm... 18:55 James: And so there's those two options, 18:57 but with God, it has to be genuine, 18:58 you can't... right now with God you can go along... 19:02 you can pretend, you can just go along with it 19:04 but the test is going to distinguish 19:07 between those who just go... 19:08 who say they're Jews and they're not... 19:09 and they're liars... Philadelphia church... 19:11 you can't just go along with it with God... 19:13 when the test comes, 19:15 it has to be a genuine experience. 19:16 Ivor: And let me add this 19:18 that those who receive the Mark of the Beast 19:21 on their forehead, will be those who are 19:23 genuinely deceived, 19:26 which will be 19:28 almost the whole world... 19:31 who doesn't understand the Scriptures, 19:34 those who receive the mark in the hand 19:36 are those who understand the Scripture... 19:39 they're not deceived... James: They're not deceived. 19:41 Yvonne: Ahh... that's interesting... 19:44 wait... give us that again... unpack that a little bit. 19:47 Ivor: So, remember, the whole world is going to be 19:50 deceived but... really it's not the whole world, 19:53 those... those who are deceived in their mind 19:56 receive the Mark in their forehead, 19:57 they're the ones that are like, "Oh yeah... " 20:00 they have no clue... 20:01 they don't understand the Scriptures, 20:03 those who receive the Mark in the hand 20:05 are those who are not deceived... 20:07 Ivor: They understand... you understand what I'm saying? 20:12 They understand the Sanctuary, 20:15 yeah, they understand the everlasting gospel, 20:19 they know it here but because of pressure 20:23 and because their characters have not been developed, 20:26 in time of crisis, they know better 20:29 but they go along. 20:31 Jason: Okay let me ask you this question... 20:33 what about that verse... 20:35 "God winks at our ignorance," what does that mean? 20:39 James: That means that there are people, even now... 20:42 and this is why we're still... 20:44 we're still looking in relation to this, 20:47 we're still looking for 20:48 a culmination of what we're developing right here, 20:51 there are people who are in Babylon... who are God's people. 20:54 The final message that we're going to see proclaimed... 20:58 as we expand this 20:59 and repeat and enlarge on this in Revelation 18... 21:01 the final message we're going to hear proclaimed 21:02 as the earth is lightened by the glory of God is... 21:04 "Come out of her my people, come out... " 21:07 they're honest... they... we've looked at Sardis, 21:10 we've looked at Thyatira, 21:12 we see honest people in those churches, 21:14 "I'm not going to put any burden, 21:15 what you have... hold fast till I come... 21:17 you haven't found your works perfect, 21:19 you need to progress, come out, come out, 21:22 I even gave Jezebel space to repent, 21:23 and she repented not, 21:25 do you see Ahab... 21:27 how he's repenting, how he's humbling himself, 21:28 what about Manasseh?" 21:30 Manasseh is actually going to be in heaven. 21:31 "Oh, Nebuchadnezzar, that wicked king 21:33 who was ready to kill all his wise men 21:34 because they couldn't interpret his dream?" 21:36 He's going to be in heaven. 21:37 Ivor: And he was the king of Babylon. 21:39 James: God winks at our ignorance 21:40 but there's a time coming... there's a test coming... 21:42 and there are people who know... they get it in their hand... 21:45 there are people who not only... as Ivor said, 21:48 are going to be people who know but go along with it, 21:50 there's also going to be people... they may not know 21:52 what we know as far as the truth goes, 21:54 but they do know that that is not true 21:56 and they're just going along with it, 21:57 even though they know that's not true 21:58 they're just going along with it 22:00 because they haven't fully embraced the truth, 22:02 their only safety is in the truth. 22:04 Now, let me... oh, go ahead... 22:05 Yvonne: The whole idea of having God's name in our heads, 22:10 I love the idea that He knows my name, 22:13 "Fear not for I have redeemed thee... 22:16 I've called thee by name... thou art mine... " 22:18 so, I am His... now His name is in my head... 22:24 and so, I know Him and I am now... 22:29 He's giving me a new name... 22:31 I'm going to shout up here in a minute now! 22:34 I'm getting ready to shout up here... 22:36 James: Think about this... 22:37 let's just pull this out a little bit... 22:40 my wife... before I married her... 22:44 her name was Khadia... I wooed her, dated her, 22:50 courted her, drew her, asked her, 22:52 she said, "Yes," we got married, 22:55 now her dad wanted her to keep her maiden name, 22:57 but I'm giving her a new name... I'm giving her a new name... 23:02 Yvonne: Right... right... James: That's great because 23:04 her first name is Risé... Risé Rafferty... 23:06 Yvonne: Oh, nice... it has a ring to it, 23:08 it has a ring... 23:09 so God is wooing us... you see... 23:12 God is the bridegroom and He's courting us, 23:14 you see... and He is enclosing us in His arms of love, 23:18 He's drawing us to Him and He's getting us ready... 23:23 the marriage of the Bride has come... 23:26 and if we marry Him, we get a new name... 23:29 we get a new name. 23:30 Yvonne: Ah ha... 23:32 James: So the whole... the whole package is there, 23:33 it's all there. 23:34 All right... this verse... I want to unpack this verse, 23:36 I've been anxious to do this 23:37 just because... it's a new idea to me 23:40 and I think it's really important... verse 12... 23:41 "Him that overcometh 23:44 will I make a pillar in the temple of my God... " 23:48 okay... the need to overcome, 23:53 the issue that they had to overcome was this disappointment 23:56 the Philadelphian church had overcome this disappointment, 23:58 they had to accept that God had this in hand 24:01 He knew what was happening, 24:03 they had to accept and trust the bridegroom, 24:06 they had to trust Him, 24:07 there were some rumors about Him that... you know, 24:09 where... He was a shady guy... you can't trust Him... 24:12 they had to trust Him 24:13 and then they had to 24:15 enter into this understanding of the temple, 24:18 and if they would enter into this, 24:20 they would become pillars in the temple, 24:22 now, a pillar in a temple is something 24:24 that holds up the temple, it supports the temple 24:27 and they wouldn't go out of the temple, 24:29 they'd come in, 24:31 they support the temple and they don't leave it, 24:33 see, there are people that wouldn't go in 24:35 they wouldn't support the temple idea, 24:37 they wouldn't support the "Most Holy Place idea," 24:40 they wouldn't support the idea that this was a disappointment 24:43 because we misunderstood the earthly Sanctuary, 24:45 it's really the heavenly Sanctuary, 24:47 so they wouldn't go in... 24:48 Ivor: They were the pillars of our faith. 24:49 James: These are the pillars of our faith 24:51 that support our understanding of this truth 24:53 and we don't leave it, 24:54 now there are people that went in and then they go out. 24:56 there are people that come in and then they've gone out 24:58 but those who overcome... are going to go in... 25:02 they're going to be in that temple, 25:04 they're going to support that temple, 25:05 they're going to support that Sanctuary truth, 25:06 they're going to support those pillars and not going to leave. 25:08 Yvonne: So, this represents the 1844 experience then? 25:12 Ivor: Absolutely. 25:13 James: And our experience today 25:15 because we are walking in the footsteps of 1844, 25:17 we have to revisit that... 25:19 we have to go back and we have to say, 25:21 "Do we believe in the experience that they had? 25:24 Do we accept the message that God gave them 25:27 and do we step into that temple and support those... 25:30 are we supportive... 25:32 are we going to be pillars of that temple truth?" 25:35 Ivor: And I think, what's beautiful... as we look at again 25:37 at the correlation of Old Testament history, 25:39 we look at what happened under the work of Nehemiah, 25:42 these were people who were 25:44 at one time busy building their own homes, 25:46 who now come together to focus on the Lord's house, 25:49 and what I think... one of the most beautiful things 25:53 about the Millerite Movement was that in essence, Adventism... 25:58 was made up of people who came 26:01 from their different Denominations 26:04 and all became pillars in the one house of the Lord 26:07 and so, it's not that the Lord is saying, 26:10 "Hey, I have a... you know... 26:11 I like these people better than those people... " 26:13 He's saying, "I want all my people, 26:15 to come out of Babylon and go back to Jerusalem. " 26:18 Yvonne: Hmmm... yeah... 26:19 Ivor: "Come out of Babylon... and go back... " 26:22 and that's exactly what you see happening 26:24 under Sardis, Philadelphia... the history repeats itself, 26:28 these people came out of Babylon, 26:29 by-the-way, some chose to stay in Babylon. 26:31 James: Yes, and several calls were made... 26:33 Ivor: That's right... James: Come out... 26:35 and we need more priests, we need more people... 26:36 they were comfortable in their locations, 26:38 they were comfortable in this world, 26:40 and in our Denominations, and in the direction... 26:43 and we're not as willing... 26:45 we're reluctant to come out of all of that comfort... 26:47 and to step forward in what God has for them... 26:50 Ivor and James: Into the house of the Lord... 26:52 Ivor: Into spiritual Jerusalem. James: Israel... 26:54 yes, and we see them suddenly become pillars of that truth, 26:58 so it's... it's amazing... this... this... 27:01 all these verses are bringing out these entire experiences. 27:03 Yvonne: Yes... yes... yes... 27:05 James: And I know that... that there may be some questions 27:07 that people are going to be asking... 27:08 and if there are questions... 27:10 Jason: How do they send them in? 27:11 Yvonne: Ah... you're asking me, triple "s" 27:15 so it's: sss as in Salvation in Symbols and Signs, 27:19 @3abn. org 27:22 James: Amen... close us out with a prayer, Yvonne, please. 27:25 Yvonne: "Father God, thank you, 27:26 thank you so much for allowing us to just see 27:29 all of this new information and you're just so gracious 27:33 and just so good to us, Lord, we just thank you so much 27:36 continue to be with us, continue to guide us, 27:39 continue, Lord God, to direct our steps, 27:42 thank you again for all that you do and for who you are, Lord, 27:46 we just praise you, we just magnify you right now 27:49 as the Divine Designer, in Jesus' name, amen. " 27:52 All: "Amen... " |
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