Participants: James Rafferty (Host), Ivor Meyers (Host), Yvonne Lewis, Jason Bradley
Series Code: SISS
Program Code: SISS000025A
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00:32 So we are in seal number six
00:35 we've just left off at seal number five 00:37 and we're going to really this piggyback on seal number five, 00:41 seal number six is connected to seal number five 00:43 and we've seen that all through the churches, 00:45 we've seen those connections, 00:46 in fact, I've to be honest, Ivor... in our conversation 00:50 and this is outside of the time we've been here 00:53 I've seen things in this connection between number five 00:56 and number six that I haven't seen before. 00:57 I've seen seal number five in ways I've never seen it before 01:00 so I really feel like God is giving us insight here 01:04 to the connectivity of the history, 01:06 the overlapping with the churches has helped, 01:09 it lays a powerful foundation so we go back and we check 01:11 and check and we check and then... that opens up more 01:14 of what's taking place in the seals. 01:16 Ivor: Yeah you were sharing just a little bit earlier that 01:18 if we don't have the churches right... 01:20 because the churches lay the foundation 01:23 for everything else we read in the Book of Revelation 01:25 because now we can check it 01:27 against the backdrop of the churches, all right, 01:30 where does this unfold in the context of the seven churches? 01:32 And that just helps us as we open the seals 01:35 to really be able to understand where we are at every point, 01:38 you can drop your finger on a chapter and verse in Revelation 01:42 and when you get its context, 01:44 you can say, "Okay, well this would put us 01:46 here within the context of the seven churches, 01:48 or here within the context of the seven churches... " 01:50 so, it's absolutely crucial. 01:51 James: Absolutely, and this is really going to help us 01:54 when we get into the trumpets 01:55 because the trumpets are even harder... 01:56 I think the seals are pretty basic and pretty easy 01:59 compared to the trumpets, the trumpets are hard... 02:01 but the reason they're harder is because 02:04 we've already been given these churches and the seals, 02:07 and so we've got this... 02:08 this true north already back here... this foundation already. 02:11 Ivor: Which will make the trumpets actually pretty easy 02:15 once we begin to see how it unfolds 02:17 okay, the trumpets look complex but we... 02:20 when we measure it in the context of the seals 02:23 and the churches... "Oh, okay... yeah, this is... " 02:26 James: Though, there's some new stuff in the trumpets 02:28 that hasn't been... Ivor: Yeah... more detail. 02:31 James: Jason, you know what we need to do right now don't you? 02:34 Jason: Pray... 02:36 James: That's right, pray and then we'll read the verses, 02:38 Yvonne, can you read the verses for us then we'll get into it. 02:40 Yvonne: Sure... 02:41 Jason: All right... "Dear Heavenly Father, 02:43 we thank you for the rich blessings 02:44 that we've been receiving from studying your Word 02:47 and we invite you to be with us again 02:49 as we dig deep into your Word... 02:51 and please lead, guide and direct our study 02:54 in Jesus' name we pray, amen. " 02:55 All: "Amen... " 02:57 Okay, Yvonne, we're in Revelation 6 02:59 and we're going to read verses 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17. 03:06 Yvonne: Okay... 03:07 "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, 03:10 and lo, there was a great earthquake; 03:12 and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, 03:15 and the moon because as blood. 03:17 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, 03:20 even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, 03:23 when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 03:25 And the heaven departed as a scroll 03:27 when it is rolled together; 03:29 and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 03:32 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, 03:35 and the rich men, and the chief captains, 03:37 and the mighty men, and every bondman, 03:40 and every free man, hid themselves 03:42 in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 03:44 And said to the mountains and rocks, 03:46 Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him 03:49 that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 03:52 For the great day of his wrath is come; 03:55 and who shall be able to stand?" 03:57 James: Wow, so... so this seal, this sixth seal 04:01 takes us right into the second coming of Jesus, 04:04 you see that in the last few verses 04:06 so... this is... this is amazing... 04:08 so right now, we just read verses that tell us 04:11 where we are in history. Yvonne: Hmmm... 04:14 James: We're not at the second coming of Jesus, 04:16 the event hasn't taken place yet, 04:18 that's ahead of us, but we've seen these signs, now, 04:20 now we want to look at some of these signs, 04:22 when the sixth seal is opened there is 1... a great earthquake 04:25 the sun becomes black as sackcloth of hair, 04:28 the moon becomes as blood 04:30 and the stars of heaven fall unto the earth, 04:33 now these signs... I'm just going to comment 04:35 before Ivor... before you give us some dates on this, 04:38 these signs are directly connected with the fifth seal 04:41 because the fifth seal pointed us to 04:44 a judgment that's coming... 1840 to 1844 Movement 04:46 and the beginning of the Investigative Judgment, 04:48 it pointed us to a time when those who had been slain 04:51 under the altar were going to receive white robes 04:54 now that Millerite Movement... when it started proclaiming 04:57 the judgment hour... the hour of His judgment 05:00 and the everlasting gospel, it was directly confirmed 05:03 by these signs that the earthquake... Lisbon earthquake 05:07 and the stars fall... all of these signs were a confirmation 05:10 to the Millerite Movement, that they were indeed on track 05:13 and by-the-way... they expected these verses 05:16 to be fulfilled very, very quickly, 05:18 they expected it to just roll right in 05:19 to the second coming of Jesus Christ 05:21 and we're going to find out why they didn't roll right into that 05:24 in chapter 7... but that is for another program, 05:27 two or three... we'll see... 05:29 so tell us about these signs, Ivor, what have we got here? 05:31 Ivor: So... just want to point out a couple of things 05:33 very quickly first... you see... we just read that the sixth seal 05:37 takes us down to the second coming of Christ, 05:41 what's interesting about this seal... 05:43 and we'll see it in the pattern of all the seals before it 05:45 is that each seal covers a period of time, 05:49 okay, it's not coming... it's not like... one day... 05:52 so, someone can read this and say, 05:53 "Oh, this looks like a one-day event... " 05:55 you know, "Oh, earthquake... and... 05:57 and this is the coming of Christ... " 05:58 but the sixth seal covers a specific period of time, 06:02 it covers a period of time 06:04 just as the fifth seal covered a period of time... 06:07 the fourth, third, second and first, 06:09 all covered a large section of time... 06:12 hundreds of years... covering that 06:15 general period of time. James: Dark Ages... 06:17 Ivor: Exactly... Dark Ages... et cetera... 06:18 we see the fifth seal and we saw that each seal 06:22 takes us... first seal... the rider on the white horse 06:25 takes us down to the Second Coming... right, 06:27 because the gospel is going to go forth to the Second Coming, 06:30 the second seal... persecution down to the Second Coming, 06:32 each seal... compromise... James: The horses keep riding... 06:36 Ivor: Exactly... the horses keep riding, 06:38 the fifth seal... martyrs will be... 06:40 martyrdom will be happening... up until the close of probation 06:44 and so the sixth seal... same thing... 06:48 but each time period starts us a little bit... yeah, 06:51 closer... further down... okay? 06:53 Ivor: I want to read a a verse in Matthew 24... 06:57 and let's just turn there very quickly... 06:59 Matthew 24 and verse 29... 07:04 Matthew 24... and verse 29, 07:09 if one of you gets that... just go ahead and read that for me 07:14 24... verse 29 and 30... 07:17 Jason: "Immediately after the tribulation of those days 07:19 shall the sun be darkened, 07:21 and the moon shall not give her light, 07:23 and the stars shall fall from heaven, 07:25 and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 07:28 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: 07:31 and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, 07:35 and they shall see the Son of man 07:37 coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. " 07:40 James: Hmmm... Yvonne: Wow! 07:41 Ivor: So... in verse 29 and 30 you have... 07:44 in Matthew 24 what Jesus is doing, 07:46 He's giving... He's speaking to His disciples 07:49 and He's telling them of things that happen... 07:51 from His time... all the way down to the end of time 07:54 so... while these events look compact like this and this... 07:58 they're covering the period of history 08:01 from the early church all the way down to the end of time. 08:04 James: Yes, same history... 08:05 Ivor: same history... right... James: Same history... 08:07 Ivor: So what's interesting is that if you look at verse 29... 08:10 it says, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days... " 08:13 okay... so remember... 08:14 what have we just covered in the fifth seal? 08:16 What was happening in the fifth seal? 08:18 What were the saints crying out for? 08:19 James: The slaying of the martyrs. 08:21 Ivor: Yeah... James: Persecution... 08:22 Ivor: There was tribulation going on, persecution right? 08:26 And so the verse says, 08:27 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days... " 08:30 a reference to the Dark Ages, 08:32 the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not show... 08:36 James: Perfect connection. 08:37 Ivor: Perfect connection because in the sixth trumpet, 08:40 what you have is... right during the time... 08:44 just about the time of the close of the 1,260-year prophecy 08:48 you have these major events happening in the heavens 08:52 one occurs in 1780... one occurs in 1755... 08:57 the other occurs in 1833... this is the Dark Day... 09:01 this is the great Lisbon Earthquake, 09:04 this is the falling of the stars... 09:07 these major events in the heavens... 09:10 the Millerite Movement looked at these signs and said, 09:15 some happened before the Millerite Movement 09:18 came upon the scene, just years earlier... 09:21 not a long... but years earlier 09:22 they looked at these signs and said, 09:25 "Okay, these signs are significant 09:27 of end-time events to come... " this is what actually gave... 09:31 James: Impetus... 09:34 Ivor: Yeah... to the Movement of 1844... 09:36 because when people saw these signs, they were like, "Okay. " 09:39 James: They saw Matthew 24 before... 09:42 they saw the signs that we're looking at under the sixth seal 09:44 and said, "Whoa, this is exactly what Jesus predicted... 09:47 this is exactly what Revelation is talking about. " 09:49 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmmm... hmmm... hmmm... 09:50 Ivor: Absolutely, so what you have is 09:53 a time of great tribulation, the 1,260... 09:55 immediately after those days, you have the sun being darkened, 09:59 the moon... so this is showing that the sixth seal 10:03 actually opened up around 1840, 17... late 1700s 10:08 1840s... which again... guess what it does? 10:11 It parallels perfectly to the sixth church 10:14 which is the church of Philadelphia 10:17 which we saw fit the time frame of 1798 till around 1844... 10:23 the Millerite Movement fulfills the Philadelphian church, 10:29 okay, so now we compare the Philadelphia church 10:32 and this great earthquake and these things that... 10:36 the sun being darkened... we see this connection 10:39 and what is it that their attention is being brought to 10:41 they thought it was being brought to 10:43 the second coming of Jesus Christ, 10:44 but in actuality it was bringing them to... 10:47 the beginning of the judgment... and remember... 10:52 under the fifth seal... what are the saints crying out? 10:55 James: Judgment. Ivor: How long before judgment? 10:58 Well, we know that judgment, 11:00 Jesus says, "I come and my reward is with me" 11:02 so sometime between the fifth seal 11:04 and the sixth seal... judgment has to have begun 11:09 and that judgment must precede the second coming of Christ. 11:14 So this... this seal... what it looks like 11:17 it's all happening in one dark day, earthquake, 11:20 the coming of Christ, there are events within 11:24 that time period that will fulfill all these things. 11:28 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... 11:29 it's interesting because I have read about the earth... 11:34 the great earthquake and the dark day and all that 11:37 and I knew that it was 1700s and all that 11:42 and it just seemed so disconnected 11:44 because here we are in the 2,000s... 11:47 and it just seemed like... "Okay, that happened back then 11:50 but now what's...?" 11:51 James: How is this playing out? 11:53 Yvonne: How is that... yeah... how it connected? 11:54 James: Is this right before Christ is coming? 11:55 Yvonne: Exactly. 11:57 James: Like... this... is this really the Lisbon Earthquake? 11:58 This is the question I've asked myself, 12:00 "Is that really the Lisbon earthquake?" 12:01 Yvonne: And that is what I was asking. 12:03 James: Is the dark day really 200 years ago? 12:04 Yvonne: Right. 12:05 James: Because... you know, we're still here... 12:07 shouldn't this like... " 12:08 and I get that question asked to me a lot of times... 12:10 so, one of the principles 12:13 that I think we're talking about which is really significant 12:15 is that we see the succession of events 12:18 and what God is laying out in the Book of Revelation 12:21 is that He is generous to every generation, 12:25 Amos says in chapter 3 verse 7, 12:28 "Surely the Lord God will do nothing, 12:32 except he reveals his secrets to his servants the prophets" 12:35 so in every generation God has signs and truths 12:40 for that particular group of believers that affirms them in 12:46 where they live and what's going on 12:48 every single group, 12:49 so that's what we've seen over and over again, 12:52 in the Book of Revelation we've seen for example 12:54 the Apostolic Age, 12:56 in the Apostolic Age we saw this white horse and its rider 12:59 and we saw the Apostolic church of Ephesus 13:01 and we saw them take the gospel to all the world... 13:03 and so that was a sign for them to know 13:05 that "Oh, we're really living in this age... " 13:07 in the red horse, we saw this persecution 13:09 and in Smyrna we saw a ten-day period of intense tribulation, 13:13 well that was a ten-year period, a- day-for-a-year principle 13:17 of Diocletian when he ruled from 303 to 313... 13:20 and just really hammered the Christians, 13:22 well that really helped them to see, 13:23 "Wow, this... this is where we are... " 13:25 Ivor: "We're living in the fulfillment of this prophecy. " 13:27 James: Yes, yes... 13:28 Ivor: So the third church and the fourth church 13:30 may not have any... they're probably looking for 13:33 like, "Well, what is this? A woman... Jezebel... " 13:35 like, you know, "I don't get this... " 13:37 but it wasn't for them at that time, 13:39 so these signs in these previous church eras 13:43 help us to be confident that what we're looking for 13:47 in the seventh church, right, 13:50 or under the sixth and seventh seal... 13:52 will have significance to us because, 13:54 "Okay, that was for them... now this is for us" 13:56 so it's important for us to understand 13:59 what signs are we looking for in our time. 14:01 James: And here's where it gets interesting, Yvonne, 14:03 because, we may say, "Well, I want these signs" 14:06 no, God proportioned those to the Millerite Movement 14:09 but we have some... we have some signs... 14:12 are you ready for the signs that God has given us? 14:14 Yvonne: Yes... yes... 14:16 James: We're talking about the beast coming out of the sea, 14:17 getting a deadly wound but the wound is healed 14:20 and all the world wonders 14:21 and another beast coming up from out of the earth 14:23 with two horns like a lamb... but he speaks like a dragon 14:25 and all the world... 14:27 and there's this mark that's enforced on everyone, 14:28 and no man can buy... these are the signs... 14:30 and we're going to go, "Wow!" when we see those things... 14:32 "Well, I don't know if I need that earthquake anymore, 14:35 because there's another 'earthquake' 14:37 taking place right here, 14:38 this is amazing fulfillment of prophecy... 14:40 I'm glad these guys got that because that helped me to know 14:42 why they were on track and now I know I'm on track... " 14:44 you know what I'm saying? 14:46 God is not neglectful because in Revelation one He says, 14:49 "I am the God that is and was and is to come" 14:52 and this prophecy is what you've seen, 14:55 what is and what will come 14:57 so these principles of interpretation 14:59 are vital for us so... not so we get greedy 15:02 and I think the reason why we ask this question 15:04 why you ask it... why I've asked it... why others have asked it, 15:07 it's not because we're greedy to have it for ourselves, 15:09 we want to understand it and we want to understand, 15:11 "Is it significant for us?" And it is... 15:13 because that history is significant for us 15:15 to know that God led His people step by step 15:17 in every past generation 15:18 and He has something for us in this generation. 15:20 Ivor: In Revelation chapter 3 15:24 when we go back to the Philadelphia church 15:26 and we're looking at the comparison between 15:28 sixth seal and... 15:30 James: I really wanted to do this, by the way... 15:32 I said, "I want to look at that seal again and see... " 15:34 let's do this... let's hear it. 15:36 Ivor: Yeah and look at verse 7, 15:37 it says, "To the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; 15:40 These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, 15:43 he that has the key of David, 15:45 he that openeth and no man shutteth; 15:48 and shutteth, and no man openeth; 15:51 I know thy works: behold I have set before thee 15:54 an open door and no man can shut it... " 15:57 so here we have Christ talking about this open door 16:01 in the Philadelphian church... 16:04 in the Philadelphian church period, 16:07 and He's saying, "Hey, there's an open door" 16:09 now if we compare that open door and ask, 16:12 "What is that open door, 16:13 what happened in the 1800s that had to do with an open door?" 16:18 We're going to go back to the judgment 16:21 because it is there where Christ 16:25 moves from a Holy Place emphasis 16:29 into a Most Holy Place emphasis where judgment begins 16:33 and we're being invited into an open door, 16:37 so, fifth seal... how long before judgment? 16:40 God says, "Don't worry, judgment is coming... " 16:44 sixth seal... opens up with these great signs 16:47 and these great signs lead the Millerite Movement to think 16:50 to see... "Something is going to happen 16:53 in 1844... as we have been saying 16:55 and this sign just confirms it... " 16:57 and what did they think was going to happen? 16:59 The Second Coming of Jesus 17:00 because it's right there in the text, 17:01 you know, it looks like it but 17:03 they didn't understand that the door to be opened 17:05 was actually the door of the judgment 17:09 and so, he goes on to say, 17:11 "Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, 17:14 which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; 17:16 behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, 17:19 and to know that I have loved thee. " 17:21 You see, during the Millerite Movement, 17:22 there were those who were claiming to be followers of God 17:27 but were scoffing at this idea that Christ would return. 17:31 James: Yeah, yes... now, let's break this down, 17:33 "synagogue of Satan... " because... 17:34 I mean to say "they are Jews but they're not... " 17:36 so we would automatically say, 17:37 "Well, that might be talking in a literal sense... " 17:39 it's not talking in a literal sense... literal Jews... 17:43 Paul talks about this and I'll just give you one verse 17:45 just so that we can have it in our notes in Romans chapter 2, 17:49 Paul says in the last verse here, he says, 17:52 verse 28... he says, 17:55 "For he is not a Jew which is one outwardly; 17:57 neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 18:01 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; 18:03 and circumcision is that of the heart, 18:05 in the spirit, and not in the letter; 18:07 whose praise is not of men, but of God. " 18:09 So when they say, "We're Jews... " 18:11 they're saying, "We've been circumcised in our hearts, 18:14 we're believers, we're Christians, 18:16 because we're spiritual Jews... " 18:18 that's what Paul is talking about in Romans chapter 2, 18:20 he talks about it in Galatians, there's Romans also 18:22 later in the chapter so... those who say, 18:25 "We're Christians, we're followers of Jesus... " 18:26 but we're not... we're really of the "synagogue of Satan" 18:29 and the thing that I like about "the synagogue of Satan" is this 18:32 Satan is an accuser of the brethren 18:34 so in Revelation 12:11, to be of the synagogue of Satan, 18:38 is to be an accuser of the brethren... 18:40 this is what they were doing, 18:42 they were ridiculing and accusing... God's people 18:45 even though they professed to be Christians and this is 18:47 exactly what happened in the Millerite Movement. 18:48 Ivor: Absolutely... absolutely yeah, yes it's quite interesting 18:55 that I've got my Strong's open here 18:58 and the word for "synagogue" is assemblage of persons, 19:02 the meeting or the place 19:06 by analogy of the Christian church... 19:09 assembly... congregation... synagogue... 19:12 remember where this is all unfolding, 19:14 it's unfolding within the context of the 19:17 "sides of the north... the mount of the congregation" 19:21 and now here you have this distinction 19:23 that God is about to make between those who claim to be 19:26 of the synagogue of God 19:29 but are really not of the mount of the congregation, 19:31 they're really of the "synagogue of Satan," 19:33 totally different synagogue but claim that they are Jews 19:37 and so again you find this... 19:39 and so now there's this distinction, as it were, 19:41 who is on God's side 19:45 and who is not... and the only way to find that out 19:48 would be through a judgment, right? 19:49 Yvonne: Hmmm... James: Right. 19:51 and so it's interesting because 19:53 if you go back to Revelation chapter 6 19:55 and look at verse... verse 7... 20:00 or... in fact we'll look at verse 15, 20:04 "And the kings of the earth, 20:06 and the great men, and the rich men, 20:07 and the chief captains, and the mighty men, 20:09 and every bondman, and every free man, 20:10 hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 20:13 And said to the mountains and rocks, 20:14 Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him 20:18 that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 20:22 For the great day of his wrath is come; 20:25 and who shall be able to... " what? 20:27 Yvonne: "stand" 20:28 Ivor: " to stand" that is a very significant question, 20:31 "What shall be able to stand?" 20:33 If you hold your place here and let's go over to... 20:37 let me ask you to find Psalm chapter 1, 20:40 Psalm chapter 1 and let's look at verse 5, 20:44 Jason, why don't you open that up for us, Psalm 1 verse 5 20:48 because I'm not getting it very fast, 20:52 here we go... Psalm 1 verse 5... 20:59 Jason: "Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, 21:03 nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous. " 21:06 James: Okay... 21:07 Ivor: "The ungodly shall not stand... " 21:10 James: "stand" I'm circling that word right now. 21:12 Ivor: Where? They shall not stand... in the what? 21:15 Yvonne: In the judgment... 21:16 Ivor: judgment and the sinner shall not be where? 21:18 Yvonne: in the congregation or the righteous. 21:19 Ivor: In the congregation. do you see that? Two words... 21:22 congregation and judgment. 21:24 James: and "stand" 21:26 Ivor: And "stand" right? Yvonne: Yeah, yeah. 21:28 Ivor: So this question is really bringing our attention 21:31 to the fact of a judgment, right, 21:35 and of the Mount of the congregation, 21:38 and who will be able to stand? 21:40 So who were those who were able to stand? 21:42 Those who make it through the judgment 21:45 which then lets us know that the judgment 21:48 has to have occurred some time 21:51 between the sixth seal and the fifth seal 21:55 because in the fifth seal... "How long before the judgment?" 21:59 Under the sixth seal... "Who shall be able to stand?" 22:02 And then we're going to find the answer 22:04 in Revelation 7... by-the-way... 22:07 if you look at the Book of Ezekiel, 22:10 I did... I was doing a word search on the word, "stand" 22:14 and I can't find anything with "stand... " so I did... "stood" 22:16 I was like... here's a story in the Book of Ezekiel, 22:20 Ezekiel chapter 37... it is the valley of dry bones... 22:24 in the valley of dry bones... guess what happens? 22:27 James: You have this dead, dried... lifeless... 22:31 Ivor: Yeah... and the Bible says that these dry bones 22:33 represent the what...? 22:34 James: The whole house of Israel. 22:36 Ivor: How much? The whole house of Israel, 22:39 the "mount of the congregation," if you will 22:42 and something happens with the Spirit of God 22:45 you know, Ezekiel speaks and prophesies. 22:47 James: That's what he does first. 22:48 Ivor: Yes. 22:50 James: That's what he does... have you ever done that? 22:51 Have you ever preached to people who are... 22:54 like they're dead, like they're not listening... 22:56 like... can you imagine going out in the field 22:58 and preaching to a bunch of bums? 23:00 And see... that's what God... and that's a faith venture 23:02 this is a faith venture, 23:03 what we're doing right now is a faith venture, 23:06 we're preaching... and we believe 23:07 that there are people listening to us 23:09 we're studying and we're... 23:11 we're bringing forth the Word of God, 23:12 we believe there are people listening to us 23:14 who may be like that valley of dry bones 23:15 and it seems like there's no hope and Ezekiel says, 23:18 he says, "So I prophesied as I was commanded... " 23:20 Ivor: Yes, because He even asked "Ezekiel, can these bones live?" 23:25 James: "You know... I don't know... 23:27 but I promise I'll look at it," and behold... 23:31 the Spirit of God moved on these bones and bone came to bone 23:34 and they were... and they stood... 23:36 Ivor: And they stood... they stood... 23:38 what does that "stand" mean? They were resurrected, 23:41 they were able to stand before the Lord, 23:43 so when this question is asked, "Who shall be able to stand 23:47 at the Second Coming of Christ?" 23:48 Those who stand at the second coming of Christ 23:51 are those who have made it through the judgment 23:53 and what will be the result? They will stand upon their feet 23:57 out of the graves like an army, they will be able to stand, 24:01 in other words, the righteous dead will be raised up 24:04 while the wicked are going to pay... 24:06 they're not going to be able to stand when He comes again 24:10 so again, this Revelation six... the sixth seal is kind of 24:15 directing us... bringing us into this crescendo 24:18 to show us who are the ones 24:21 that are going to be able to stand, right, 24:24 who are the ones 24:25 that are going to make it through the judgment? 24:27 Who are the ones that are going to come up out of the graves 24:30 and be able to see Christ face to face 24:34 and that introduces us to chapter 7... 24:38 James: And it is... it's good... it's good... 24:41 I want to make this point and bring this home 24:44 to everyone too... and that is... is that... 24:47 those who will come up out of the graves 24:50 which is the most significant application of this 24:53 in the sense of Revelation 7 which is to come... 24:56 are those who seem to be 24:59 dead in transgressions and sins right now, 25:01 those who may be walking the earth right now 25:04 and overwhelmed with the fact that there's no way 25:06 because the house of Israel... Ezekiel is like... 25:07 "there's no way, there's no hope we've given up hope... " 25:10 and you've got to understand... 25:11 Ezekiel is prophesying when his people were in captivity 25:14 and yet Ezekiel prophesied... prophesy is powerful 25:18 then the Spirit of the Lord came upon them, 25:21 the Spirit of God is powerful, 25:23 you may be dead in trespasses and sins... 25:25 we may have given up all hope 25:27 but prophecy... God's Word... the Spirit of God is powerful 25:31 and it can bring us back to life. 25:33 Ivor: So... so... what you have here... 25:37 is the bread... it was by the Word of God 25:41 right, the Word... Ezekiel prophesied the Word... 25:45 and the Spirit came so you got the "oil" as well 25:48 and it was through the Spirit... 25:50 through the prophesying of the Word 25:52 that these dead bones came to life 25:54 and God is showing that those who stand 25:57 in the mount of the congregation on Mount Zion 26:00 when this is all said and done 26:04 were those who overcame by the Word of God. 26:08 James: All right... quick summary... 26:10 so we start here in verse 12, we have the signs 26:13 that are also in Matthew 24, the sun... the moon... the stars 26:19 the earthquake that vindicate the Millerite Movement 26:22 these were the signs that they saw as vindication 26:25 of the time in which we lived 26:26 and they use that to proclaim this message 26:28 of the soon coming of Christ, then you will transition 26:31 right into the second coming of Christ 26:33 and between this Millerite Movement 26:35 and the second coming of Christ... 26:36 there's a work of judgment that seemingly takes place 26:39 and that's going to be explained in Revelation 7 26:41 those were the things I saw... 26:43 but one of the things that I wanted to point out here 26:45 as a confirmation of what we studied 26:47 in relation to the four horses, 26:48 is where it says in Revelation chapter 6 and verse 15... 26:51 "the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, 26:55 the chief captains, the mighty men, 26:56 every bondman, every free man... " 26:57 this is the whole earth, 27:00 the four horses are symbolic of everyone, 27:02 north, south, east and west, so this is just a confirmation 27:05 that we're looking at everyone right now 27:07 it's coming to a place of decision... 27:09 valley of decision 27:10 and what's going to bring them to that decision on God's side 27:13 is the white horse and its rider... 27:14 the everlasting gospel... Yvonne: Hmmm... 27:15 James: Okay... what do we have to tell people? 27:17 Laughter... 27:18 Jason: If they have any questions 27:21 they can send us an e-mail at sss@3abn. org 27:25 that's sss as in Salvation in Symbols and Signs 27:29 @3abn. org 27:31 James: Pray us out then... 27:32 Jason: All right... "Dear Heavenly Father, 27:34 thank you again for a wonderful day and a blessed study Lord, 27:37 there is so much information to remember 27:41 that we need your help, 27:42 we need your help to fully comprehend what we're studying, 27:46 and so much symbolism, Lord, trying to keep up 27:50 so I ask that you will continue to be with us, 27:53 continue to bless us and continue to help us 27:56 as we strive to understand 27:58 the prophecy that you have laid out for us, 28:01 in Jesus' name we pray, amen. " 28:02 All: "Amen... " 28:04 James: So we're going to pick up... we're not done... 28:06 we're going to pick up right now with the 7th... excuse me... 28:11 the... Revelation chapter 7 28:12 and what takes place in the sealing time. 28:15 Ivor: Hmmm... hmmm... Jason: Amen... 28:17 Yvonne: Hmmm... |
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