Participants: Ivor Myers (Host), James Rafferty (Host), Jason Bradley, Yvonne Lewis
Series Code: SISS
Program Code: SISS000041A
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00:29 Okay, we are moving on... maybe... okay...
00:33 we're done with Revelation 9, kind of... 00:37 we're in Revelation chapter 10, 00:39 we're going to be looking at the little book 00:40 but we want to seal this up, we just... 00:43 there are a couple of areas 00:44 where maybe you got some questions 00:46 I think would be good for our Viewers to just rehash 00:48 and make sure we nail it down so we'll go through those 00:51 then we'll move into Revelation chapter 10 00:53 and we'll read verses 1 through 7 00:54 and then we'll take off... it's going to be good because 00:58 Revelation chapter 10, it's like... phew... finally... 01:01 we're in this chapter that's a little easier 01:02 you know, Revelation 8 and 9... those are hard chapters... 01:05 and if our Viewers are struggling with some of that... 01:08 I don't blame them... because it is... 01:10 it's difficult stuff... it's difficult territory 01:11 and that's why I think it would be good for us 01:12 to review a couple of points there 01:14 that maybe we need to cover with more clarity. 01:15 Yvonne: Yeah. 01:16 James: So, Yvonne, have prayer for us can you 01:18 and then we'll get into it. 01:19 Yvonne: Sure, "Father, thank you so very much 01:21 for all that you've been doing for us and through us Lord, God, 01:25 we just pray to be used by you, we pray for your Spirit 01:29 to prevail here... that every Viewer, every Listener 01:33 will be blessed and hearts will be turned to you, 01:36 thank you so much for the presence of your Holy Spirit 01:39 in Jesus' name, amen. " 01:41 All: "Amen... " 01:42 Yvonne: I have a question. James: Let's go for it. 01:46 Yvonne: Okay, in Revelation 9 and it's verse 19... 01:50 James: Gotcha... 01:52 Yvonne: And it says, 01:53 "For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: 01:56 for their tails were like unto serpents, 01:59 and had heads, and with them they do hurt. " 02:01 Heads and tails... what are those? 02:03 James: Whew... heads and tails, 02:05 I'll do the heads and I'll let Ivor do the tails. 02:06 Ivor: Yeah... hmmm... 02:08 James: Okay, so the powers and the heads... 02:10 remember, this is a religio-political power 02:12 so, militarily the "heads" 02:15 it's talking about the use of gunpowder, 02:18 it's talking about the fire... in the previous verse it says, 02:21 "By these three were the third part of the men killed, 02:25 by the fire, the smoke and the brimstone. " 02:26 Yvonne: Hmmm... 02:28 James: The Ottoman Empire was the first Empire 02:31 to use gunpowder in battle and it was specifically used 02:34 against Constantinople and when they marched into war, 02:38 when they went to war, they went... 02:39 they were on horseback... that's why it says there, 02:41 "the horses were a thousand times ten thousand... 02:43 two hundred thousand thousand" 02:44 horses were the main mode of operation for the Ottomans, 02:49 for the early rise of the Muslim power 02:52 and they plate armored their horses 02:54 and they'd have these muskets 02:56 and they would shoot the muskets 02:57 and it looked like the fire was coming out 02:59 of the mouth of the horses that looked like lions 03:01 because they looked, you know, like they were going... 03:03 so, that's the part of it that deals with the "heads" 03:06 their power... the power to bring down Constantinople, 03:09 the power to win these victories came from their development 03:13 invention... development... of gunpowder in battle, 03:15 what about their tails? 03:16 Ivor: Isaiah 9:15, the Bible tells us there 03:21 that the prophet that teacheth lies... he is the tail... 03:24 "the prophet that teacheth lies... he is the tail" 03:27 and... so when you look at this Movement, 03:30 again it's a religious... religio-political movement 03:33 but they have at the head, a prophet, 03:36 and the prophet denies the Son of God as the Messiah 03:42 and also the Holy Spirit 03:45 so this is just pointing to the fact that this is another power 03:48 it's not necessarily... like, God used Babylon... 03:52 which was not really submitted to the will of God, 03:56 but He uses this Gentile power, as it were, 04:00 as a chastisement upon His apostate people 04:04 so we find in the very same way that... 04:07 He uses one false religion against another false religion 04:11 and so that's basically what the tail would point us to. 04:15 Yvonne: Good, thank you. 04:17 James: And the power there is the influence that it has. 04:18 Ivor: Exactly... 04:20 James: These teachings have great influence 04:21 I mean, we're talking about over a billion people worldwide, 04:23 they're influenced by these teachings 04:25 they're not totally... 04:26 Ivor: They were stung... they were stung by the tails... 04:28 so there were forced conversions "convert to Islam or die... " 04:33 and this was only to those that they felt were... 04:37 were idols... or were idolaters... 04:40 so, again, they did not touch 04:43 those who had the Seal of God upon their foreheads 04:47 but only those who... they felt were idolators... 04:50 "convert or die... " 04:52 James: "So, if you don't comply to what we teach... it's over. " 04:53 Ivor: Yeah... 04:55 James: Basically... so that's what we see in the history 04:57 and it continues to this day. Yvonne and Ivor: Yes. 04:59 James: And even Papacy continues to this day... 05:01 all of this continues to this day 05:02 and we're going to see an amazing summary of all of this 05:05 when we get to Revelation 17. Yvonne: Hmmm... 05:07 James: Revelation 17 goes through each one of these. 05:09 Ivor: Yeah, and just remember, this is exactly... 05:11 this was the exact technique of the Papacy... 05:13 "convert or die... " 05:15 Yvonne: So... there are two... 05:19 these two powers then that are using the same methods. 05:23 Ivor: Exactly, exactly, so remember, 05:26 "he that kills with a sword... must be killed with a sword. " 05:28 "He that leads into captivity must go into captivity" 05:32 remember, under the trumpets, 05:35 everything that they tried to use to their advantage, 05:38 becomes... is used against them. Yvonne: Hmmm... 05:41 Ivor: And so that's what we're seeing here 05:43 throughout each trumpet, 05:45 the error they teach... it turns back on them 05:49 as we'll see in our presentation on Revelation 11 05:53 with the rise of Atheism coming out of an abyss 05:57 that really... they helped bring about... 06:01 they brought about these Dark Ages 06:04 and so... okay... here comes these things 06:06 out of what... yeah... as a result of what you've done. 06:10 Jason: I wonder if that's where the saying, 06:11 "Live by the sword... die by the sword" comes from. 06:14 James: It is... in fact that's a Biblical saying. 06:17 A lot of sayings that we use in secular society 06:19 are based on the Bible, like "scapegoat" 06:22 "Don't make me a scapegoat... " that's based on the Bible. 06:24 James: "Handwriting on the wall. " 06:26 "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. " 06:28 Jesus actually said that to Peter 06:30 in the Garden of Gethsemane, 06:31 when Peter pulled out his sword and got ready... 06:32 "Put away your sword... 06:34 he that kills with a sword must be killed with a sword. " 06:36 That's right out of the Bible and there's a ton of sayings... 06:39 that we use in secular society today 06:41 that actually have their origins in the Word of God. 06:44 All right, think we've sewn up Revelation 9? 06:45 Yvonne: Yeah. 06:47 James: Okay, let's move into Revelation 10. 06:48 Jason, take us into Revelation 10 06:50 and read for us verses 1 through 7, please. 06:52 Jason: All right, "And I saw another mighty angel 06:55 come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: 06:57 and a rainbow was upon his head, 06:59 and his face was as it were the sun, 07:01 and his feet as pillars of fire: 07:03 And he had in his hand a little book open: 07:06 and he set his right foot upon the sea, 07:09 and his left foot on the earth, 07:11 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: 07:14 and when he had cried, 07:15 seven thunders uttered their voices. 07:17 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, 07:20 I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven 07:23 saying unto me, Seal up those things 07:25 which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. 07:28 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth 07:32 lifted up his hand to heaven, 07:33 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, 07:36 who created heaven, and the things that therein are, 07:39 and the earth, and the things that therein are, 07:42 and the sea, and the things which are therein, 07:44 that there should be time no longer: 07:47 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, 07:50 when he shall begin to sound, 07:52 the mystery of God should be finished, 07:53 as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. " 07:56 James: You did a great job reading the King James Version 07:59 it is not easy to read that sometimes 08:01 especially in verse 6 there... you did great. 08:03 Okay, I think we should start at verse 1 08:06 and just go through it step by step by step, 08:08 just do a systematic interpretation 08:10 of the seven verses so going back to verse 1, 08:12 "I saw another mighty angel come down from... 08:15 and He is clothed with the sun" okay oh, 08:17 "clothed with the cloud," excuse me, 08:20 and "a rainbow was upon his head 08:21 and his face was like the sun, his feet as pillars of fire" 08:23 this is a description of what we find 08:26 also in Revelation chapter 1 which describes the Son of man, 08:29 let's look in Revelation chapter 1 08:31 and look here in verses 10, 11, no, not 10... 11... 08:40 I'm thinking of verses 13, 14, 15. 08:44 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... 08:47 James: Yvonne, do you want to read those for us? 08:50 Yvonne: Sure, "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks 08:53 one like unto the Son of man, 08:55 clothed with a garment down to the foot, 08:57 and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. 09:00 His head and his hairs were white like wool, 09:02 as white as snow; 09:04 and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 09:06 And his feet like unto fine brass, 09:09 as if they burned in a furnace; 09:11 and his voice as the sound of many waters. " 09:13 James: Now, I want you to open to the book of Daniel 09:17 chapter 10... Daniel chapter 10... 09:21 I want you to look at the description that we find here 09:23 in Daniel chapter 10, this is going to be significant. 09:26 In Daniel 10 I want you to look at the description 09:28 in verses 5 and 6... 09:31 Yvonne: You want me to read it? James: Yeah, please. 09:34 Yvonne: "Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, 09:37 and behold a certain man clothed in linen, 09:40 whose loins were girded with the fine gold of Uphaz: 09:43 His body also was like the beryl, 09:46 and his face as the appearance of lightning, 09:48 and his eyes as lamps of fire, 09:50 and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, 09:54 and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude. " 09:57 James: Okay, you see the similarities 09:59 between these descriptions? Yvonne: Yeah... 10:01 James: These descriptions are all pointing us to 10:04 someone who's coming in this glorified image 10:08 and in Revelation 1, 10:10 He's identified as the Son of man... Jesus Christ... 10:13 in Revelation chapter 10 He's identified as an angel 10:16 in Daniel chapter 10... He's identified as "a certain man" 10:21 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 10:22 James: I want you to look in Daniel chapter 12 10:25 and we're going to make an amazing connection here 10:27 between Daniel 12 and Revelation 10, 10:31 here's where the connection is going to be... 10:32 between these two chapters, what I wanted to mention was 10:35 that there are a couple of places in the book of Revelation 10:37 that connect very strongly 10:39 to the book of Daniel. Yvonne: Hmmm... 10:40 James: The first place is Revelation chapter 10, 10:43 Revelation chapter 10 makes a strong connection 10:45 to the book of Daniel which we're about to find 10:47 and then Revelation 13 also makes a strong connection 10:50 to the book of Daniel and so, 10:52 this is where we're going to connect the two books together 10:54 so... so Jason, Revelation chapter 12 10:57 and I want you to read for us... 10:59 Yvonne: Revelation 12 or Daniel 12? 11:01 James: Daniel chapter 12, thank you, Yvonne, 11:03 I want you to read for us... let's just start with verse 4 11:07 because that will give us the information we need 11:09 to understand what's happening in Revelation 10, 11:11 so, Daniel 12, verses 4 11:13 and read all the way through to verse 7. 11:16 Jason: Okay, "But thou, O Daniel, 11:18 shut up the words, and seal the book, 11:21 even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, 11:24 and knowledge shall be increased. 11:27 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, 11:29 there stood other two, 11:31 the one on this side of the bank of the river, 11:34 and the other on that side of the bank of the river. 11:37 And one said to the man clothed in linen, 11:40 which was upon the waters of the river, 11:42 How long shall it be to the end of these wonders? 11:45 And I heard the man clothed in linen, 11:48 which was upon the waters of the river, 11:50 when he held up his right hand 11:52 and his left hand unto heaven... " 11:54 Yvonne: Wow! Jason: Hmmm...? 11:56 Yvonne: No, I'm sorry, I just said, "Wow!" 11:58 James: She got an "ah ha moment" 11:59 Yvonne's having an "ah ha moment. " 12:01 Yvonne: I did... I did... James: She's like, "Oh... " 12:04 Jason: "and sware by him that liveth for ever 12:08 that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; 12:11 and when he shall have accomplished 12:14 to scatter the power of the holy people, 12:15 all these things shall be finished. " 12:17 James: Okay, and we can read on and we could find 12:19 that a couple more time prophecies are given 12:21 so here's the picture, 12:23 I just want to give you an overview of the picture. 12:26 In Daniel 10... this certain man comes to Jesus, 12:28 to Daniel... in this appearance with face like the sun, 12:34 pillars of fire... he's glorified 12:36 he comes to Daniel... 12:37 Daniel says, "Whoa, this certain man... " 12:39 in Daniel 12, this "certain man" is standing 12:42 on the waters of the river 12:43 and he is asked by another certain being, 12:47 "How long is it going to be?" 12:48 Daniel's book is sealed up... 12:50 "How long is it going to be that Daniel's book is sealed up? 12:52 How long is it going to be sealed up for... 12:54 so that it can't be understood?" 12:55 And he lifts his hands to heaven 12:57 and he swares by Him that lives forever and ever... and he says, 12:59 "It's going to be for a time, times, and half a time" 13:02 okay, now, we go back to Revelation chapter 10. 13:05 Ivor: Hold your place right there. 13:06 I want to read verse 8 and 9 13:08 just to connect that scene, right... 13:11 Ivor: In Daniel 12 verse 8 and 9 it says, 13:13 "And I heard, but I understood not: 13:14 then said I, O my Lord, 13:16 what shall be the end of these things? 13:17 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up 13:22 are sealed till the time of the end. " 13:24 So, this connection of "Well, how long?" 13:27 He's not asking how long... 13:30 the question isn't, "how long until the end of the world?" 13:32 The question is: "How long till the end of these things?" 13:35 Well, what things? 13:36 An angel tells us, "Look, at the time of the end 13:39 of this prophecy the book is going to be opened, 13:43 the book will no longer be sealed... " 13:46 and so, that's what we're looking for, go ahead. 13:48 James: That's what we're looking for. 13:50 Daniel's book was sealed and Daniel is asking, 13:52 "How long is it going to be sealed for" 13:54 and the angel stands on the waters, 13:56 lifts his hands to heaven, swears by Him that lives forever 13:58 and says, "It's going to be for a time, times, and half a time 14:00 and all these things are going to happen in these time periods 14:03 and then when you come to the end of these time periods, 14:05 Daniel, you're going to stand in your lot... 14:07 and your book is going to be opened again. " 14:08 All right, now we go to Revelation 10, 14:10 a mighty angel comes down, he's clothed with a cloud, 14:13 with a rainbow on his head, face as the sun, 14:15 feet as pillars of fire... 14:17 same description, okay, 14:18 he has a little book... 14:19 what is the description of the book? 14:21 Open in his hand... 14:23 was there ever a book in the Bible that was ever sealed? 14:26 The book of Daniel was sealed, this is the first indication, 14:29 this is the book of Daniel 14:31 because it's sealed there... it's open here. 14:33 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 14:34 James: Okay, so that's the first connection, 14:35 actually it's the second connection, 14:37 the first connection is, the glorified being that comes 14:39 okay, the second connection... the book is opened, 14:41 notice where he's standing, 14:43 "right foot on the sea... left foot on the earth" 14:47 see... so now in Daniel, he's on the rivers of the waters 14:50 which indicates a limited proclamation of his book... 14:54 but now he's on the sea... on the earth... 14:55 which indicates a worldwide proclamation of his prophecies 14:59 they're no longer going to be sealed 15:01 they're not going to be limited to a certain area, 15:02 they're going to be opened up for the whole world. 15:04 We're going to skip verses 3 and 4, 15:06 and we're going to go to verse 5, 15:08 "And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth 15:11 lifted up his hand to heaven... " 15:12 "Whoa, whoa, whoa, what are we doing here?" 15:14 Same thing we did... he lifted up his hand to heaven, 15:17 now notice verse 6, 15:18 "And he sware by him that liveth for ever and ever" 15:21 that's the same thing he did in Daniel 12, 15:23 "he swore by him that liveth forever and ever" 15:25 and the things... who created heaven, 15:28 and the things that therein are, 15:29 and the earth and the things that are therein, 15:31 that therein are... and the sea" see you did a good job in that 15:35 "and the sea and the things which are therein, 15:37 that there should be... " what? "time no longer" 15:39 what time is he talking about? 15:41 What time could he be talking about? 15:44 Yvonne: It's the end of time... 15:45 James: Yeah, this is the same time 15:46 during which Daniel's prophecies were to be sealed up. 15:49 They were sealed up for time, times and half a time. 15:52 All that time's over now, your book's open now... 15:55 it's no longer sealed, it's opened up... 15:56 those times have come to an end, "just like I swore by Him 16:00 that had been sealed up for a certain time, 16:01 now, I am coming and I'm swearing again 16:03 and it will be opened, that it's opened. " 16:05 Time no longer... so now, what are we waiting for? 16:08 We are waiting for verse 7, 16:09 the mystery of God to be finished. 16:11 All: Hmmm... 16:13 James: We're no longer waiting for 16:14 a time prophecy to be fulfilled. 16:16 All of the time prophecies are coming to their end right here 16:20 and Daniel's book is going to be unsealed 16:23 and it's going to give an incredible message... 16:26 the message is identified in verses 3 and 4 16:30 as the message of the seven thunders. 16:31 Yvonne: Right. 16:33 James: That message is going to bring 16:35 an end to the mystery of God... that's going to bring 16:38 a fulfillment of the mystery of God 16:40 so what we've got to understand is... 16:41 what we want to understand is this, 16:43 first of all, what are the seven thunders? 16:45 Second of all, what is the mystery of God? 16:47 And third of all, 16:48 what are these final verses talking... 16:50 how do they connect us to all of this... 16:52 to understand all of this? 16:53 Ivor: Let's look at something else, very quickly 16:57 and that's back in verse 1, 16:59 where it talks about... this "being" comes down... 17:03 and His face is... as it were... the sun... 17:07 this is very significant because 17:09 first of all, the time period mentioned in the book of Daniel 17:12 is time, times and a half... 1,260 years 17:15 which is the Dark Ages... and the end of that period, 1798 17:22 it is significant that under the 3rd trumpet... 17:25 under the... I'm sorry, under the 4th trumpet... 17:29 5th trumpet... you have this darkness. 17:34 James: Yeah. Yvonne: Hmmm... 17:35 Ivor: And at the end of this time period, 17:38 what you have is this "being" that comes down 17:41 with His face like the sun. 17:43 James: Which had been darkened for all those years. 17:45 Ivor: So... and He's got this book that's opened... 17:48 so... light... book that's opened... 17:51 the verse says, 17:53 "darkness... and book doing it's work under persecution, 17:58 book closed up... chaos... " 18:02 this signifies that the people of God 18:05 would be enlightened as it were, 18:08 the Word of God would be opened 18:11 and again, it's significant to see where Revelation... 18:14 where Revelation 10 falls... 18:15 right, we've just come out of the... 18:18 we're looking at what's been going on in the Dark Ages 18:23 and now... we saw previously the work Papacy would do 18:27 and how God would counter that work through 18:30 the Ottoman Empire 18:33 and now we have this book being opened 18:35 which is about to bring understanding... 18:38 this understanding is going to help the people of God advance 18:42 now, something crucial that I want to point out as well, 18:45 Revelation chapter 10 is going to... 18:49 we haven't gotten there yet but we're going to look at 18:52 what we understand... what we call it... 18:54 "the Great Disappointment. " Yvonne: Hmmm... 18:56 Ivor: You'll see as we refer to that 18:58 John is told to "eat this book" 19:00 the book is going to be sweet in his mouth... 19:03 but bitter in his belly... that's not a good experience... 19:07 okay, so, somehow this is going to be a great disappointment 19:11 but were it not for this chapter 19:13 the disappointment would have been so great 19:17 that it would have caused the Movement of God 19:20 to totally disband. James: Hmmm... hmmm... 19:22 Ivor: So this chapter actually helps 19:29 the people of God in their disappointment 19:32 to not totally just say... 19:34 "all right, we're not moving forward anymore... 19:35 there's nothing to move forward for... " 19:37 okay, that's what we're going to see... 19:39 and remember, in connection with the prophecies 19:41 that we just saw fulfilled... in the previous program, 19:44 1840... and 1798... looking at these two dates 19:49 gave momentum to the Movement of God 19:52 and then they run into this roadblock 19:55 which we're going to see in this chapter 19:57 and it's like, "What just happened?" 19:59 they could have turned away just like... 20:01 walked away from it all... 20:03 but this chapter saved the Movement of God. 20:05 James: Yeah... I love that... that sun... that sun revelation 20:08 because we noted in the previous study 20:11 when we talked about what the work of the Papacy was doing 20:14 it was seeking to block out the sun and the night, 20:17 the day and the night didn't shine for them 20:18 and remember how we interpreted the night? 20:20 The day, of course, was interpreted as the Word of God, 20:25 the righteousness of Jesus Christ 20:27 the Son of righteousness and that was blocked out... 20:32 it was obscured... it was replaced by a priestly... 20:34 an earthly, priestly ministry that pointed people to men 20:38 rather than Jesus for forgiveness, 20:39 but the night... 20:41 we know that was interpreted as Bible Prophecy... 20:44 a light that shines in a dark place 20:47 and Daniel received his visions, "in the night vision I saw... " 20:51 "in the night vision I saw... " 20:52 and by the way... in the night vision, 20:53 he saw the establishment and the rise of Little Horn Power 20:56 so, it's really interesting here... 20:59 in Revelation chapter 10 you have 21:01 "his face shining as it was the sun" 21:03 so that's being restored... 21:04 the sun of righteousness being restored... 21:06 and then you have a little book open... 21:08 and the little book is a book of...? 21:09 Daniel... so you have prophecy, prophecy is being restored. 21:12 Ivor: Absolutely. 21:14 James: So you have the day being restored 21:15 and the night being restored, yeah, I really like that. 21:17 Okay, so what about this... this as we move on... 21:21 what about this seven thunders that cries out... 21:24 the thing I want you to notice here, 21:26 that I think is really significant is... 21:28 when the seven thunders utter their voices, 21:31 they're obviously uttering their voices 21:33 from the book of Daniel... that's where it's coming from 21:36 because he sees the book open 21:38 and he hears the voices coming forth from it, 21:39 don't get all mystical on this... 21:42 it's very clear... it's very simple... 21:44 what's happening here... 21:45 seven represents complete and perfect 21:48 and thunder represents the voice of God. 21:50 So it's the complete and perfect voice of God 21:53 that has been communicated to us 21:55 from the prophecies of Daniel, and John is so excited... 21:58 he's like, "Yes, yes... " 22:00 he's probably understanding stuff 22:02 that Daniel just didn't get... 22:04 because you know, he's on the other side, 22:05 he's understanding stuff that Daniel didn't get 22:07 and he says, "Yes, oh man, get me my coat, 22:10 get me my ink, boom, let's write this out" 22:12 and what does he hear? 22:15 Immediately, he hears this voice let's look at it again, 22:17 here it is, in verse 4, who wants to read that? 22:24 Jason: "And when the seven thunders 22:26 had uttered their voices, I was about to write: 22:28 and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, 22:30 Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, 22:33 and write them not. " 22:34 James: "What! I thought this was the revelation... 22:36 I thought the book of Daniel was open... I thought the book... 22:38 I thought we were supposed to understand all of this... " 22:41 what's happening right here, see, Daniel is really... 22:44 excuse me... John is really excited 22:45 about Daniel's prophecies 22:47 but the reason why he's told not to write them 22:49 is further explained in verses 8 and 9 22:54 where we see the development of what Ivor just explained 22:57 as this Movement and disappointment, 23:00 let's just read verses 8 and 9. 23:03 Yvonne: "And the voice which I heard from heaven 23:06 spake unto me again, and said, 23:08 Go and take the little book which is open 23:10 in the hand of the angel 23:11 which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth. 23:13 And I went unto the angel, 23:15 and said unto him, Give me the little book. 23:17 And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; 23:20 and it shall make thy belly bitter, 23:22 but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. " 23:24 James: And then verse 10. 23:26 Yvonne: "And I took the little book 23:27 out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; 23:28 and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: 23:31 and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. " 23:33 James: Okay, check this out... check this out... 23:36 John is told not to write 23:40 what he hears from the book of Daniel, 23:43 because it's already written... 23:45 Yvonne: Hmmm... 23:47 James: It's already written, 23:48 it's already been written in the book of Daniel, 23:49 "so you don't need to write it again, John, 23:51 that seven-thunder message that you're hearing 23:53 from the book that's open... 23:54 the seven-thunder message you're hearing 23:56 you don't need to write it out, what you need to do... " 23:57 same voice that told him not to write it, 23:59 "what you need to do is, go to the angel 24:01 and grab the book and eat it... you don't need to write... " 24:04 sometimes we get so caught up in writing, writing, writing, 24:07 writing, writing... and we're not assimilating anything 24:09 and that's what I'm hoping with our Viewers now, 24:11 I'm hoping we just not... it's not that we're just... 24:14 we need to assimilate... 24:15 that's why we're trying to go so slow in this program 24:17 you know, we don't have the time pressure 24:19 and we're not like... "Okay, we got to... " 24:20 we need to assimilate so Daniel's book had been written 24:25 but it hadn't been assimilated 24:26 and even Daniel didn't fully understand it himself 24:29 and so what God is doing here is He's saying, 24:30 "Okay, I'm going to connect you 24:32 with the book of Daniel right now 24:33 okay, those of you who are reading... 24:34 do you see the connections? 24:36 See how we're going through the same parallelism right here, 24:38 "the swearing... the swearing by him... 24:40 that created heaven, time prophecies... 24:42 given time prophecies coming to an end... " 24:43 you see all the connection here, 24:45 "the certain man that's glorified, 24:46 the angel that's glorified... 24:48 the little book that's sealed... the little book that's open... 24:49 standing on the rivers and the waters... 24:51 standing on the sea and on the earth" 24:52 see all the connections? Yvonne: Yeah. 24:54 James: Okay, now, Daniel's book is open 24:57 "whew, look at all the stuff in there, I got to write this... " 24:59 "Wait, wait, wait, don't write it, 25:01 it's already written... don't waste your time there, 25:03 go and get the book that's written already 25:05 and take it and start eating it" 25:06 and this is what we see taking place in history, 25:09 so we go back to history, we go back to the history of 25:12 the Ottoman Empire... unbelievable what happens here 25:15 as the Ottoman Empire is falling... 25:18 and when I say "falling" I'm not saying "coming to an end... " 25:21 I'm saying... Ivor: Wounded... 25:24 James: Or yeah, seceding to the Christian nations... 25:27 to England and Prussia and Russia and Austria... 25:30 as it's seceding to these nations, 25:32 a Movement is coming up that's noting that 25:35 and actually making the very predictions 25:37 that had not yet been fulfilled, Josiah Litch... 25:40 the Millerite Movement... 25:41 these guys are taking the book of Daniel and they're eating it 25:46 and they're just excited about the prophecies 25:48 that Daniel didn't fully understand... 25:50 the 2,300 days... they're excited about these prophecies 25:52 and they're studying these prophecies 25:54 and it's leading them to a conclusion 25:56 that there are some significant things that are going to happen 25:59 at the end of the 2,300 days 26:01 and the end of the 391 days... years and 15 days... 26:05 and they start making predictions 26:06 and one of the predictions they make 26:08 is the Ottoman Empire is going to fall... 26:09 another prediction that they make... or secede... 26:11 another prediction they make is that the... 26:13 the Lord Jesus Christ is going to return to the earth 26:17 and cleanse the earth with fire in 1843 and then 1844 26:20 and they set a couple of dates 26:22 before they finally get the final one. Yvonne: Hmmm... 26:24 James: And this is what we see taking place 26:26 as Ivor said earlier, 26:28 these guys go through this amazing experience 26:31 of the Millerite Movement 26:32 and then they go through this tremendous disappointment 26:34 and when they're disappointed... what happens? 26:37 Well, the cornfield... we're going to get to that... 26:39 but one of the things that happens is 26:41 they go back to these prophetic verses 26:43 and they realize, "Wait a minute... 26:45 this has been prophesied... 26:47 God actually wrote about our experience... " 26:50 I mean, it's kind of like the disciples... 26:52 if you think about it... they denied the Lord... 26:55 but then they go back and they say, 26:56 "Wait a minute, this has been prophesied... 26:58 God actually predicted we were going to do this. " 27:00 Ivor: And what's interesting here is... 27:03 verse 11... it says... "He said unto me, 27:06 Thou must prophesy again... " Yvonne: Hmmm... 27:08 Ivor: Yeah, all right... we went through 27:14 this... and I guess we'll cover it in our next Program 27:19 but we go through this great disappointment 27:21 it's so great that "I guess, we may as well just hang it up" 27:24 but He says, "No, you're going to have a bitter experience 27:27 and I want you to know the bitter experience was prophesied 27:30 the bitter experience was prophesied 27:33 because I told the angels, 27:35 'don't write' so you were missing some information 27:39 that was on purpose because I had to do something... " 27:42 and we'll find out what that is in our next program 27:46 so another cliffhanger... Yvonne: Oh... 27:47 Ivor: "The information is there, but you were missing it. " 27:50 James: Yeah... yeah... 27:51 Ivor: "And don't worry, your disappointment... 27:53 even that was prophesied... 27:55 you must prophesy again, keep moving forward. " 27:58 James: Amen. Yvonne: All right... amen. |
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