Participants: Ivor Myers (Host), James Rafferty (Host), Jason Bradley, Yvonne Lewis
Series Code: SISS
Program Code: SISS000047A
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00:29 We are almost there,
00:31 when I say "almost there" I'm talking about Revelation 12 00:34 seriously, Revelation 12 is going to be 00:38 a phenomenal chapter. Yvonne: Oh, good. 00:40 James: Oh, it's just like... this is the turning point, 00:42 this is half way through the book... 00:44 when we get done with Revelation 11, 00:45 we've got 22 chapters 00:46 so Revelation 12 is half way through the book 00:49 but Revelation 12 is also where we begin 00:51 our fourth and final prophetic cycle. 00:53 Yvonne: Hmmm... James: This is the last one. 00:55 You're saying, "But wait a minute... 00:57 we've had the churches... that's one... 00:58 we've had the seals... that's two... 01:00 we have the trumpets... that's three... 01:02 and that's 11 chapters... 01:03 and you're saying that there's still 11 more chapters 01:06 and we've only got one cycle left?" 01:07 Yvonne: Hmmm... 01:08 James: Exactly... and we're going to look at that 01:10 because it's going to be interesting to see, 01:13 so, we are not done, though, with Revelation 11, 01:16 we're thinking we're going to finish it up 01:18 because this is the last... 14 to 19... the last few verses, 01:22 and I think we can cover it, 01:23 it's actually... the subject of it is... 01:25 is the third woe... 01:27 so, let's start with a word of prayer 01:29 and then we'll get right into that, Jason, pray for us. 01:33 Jason: Sure, "Dear Heavenly Father, 01:34 we thank you for another blessed opportunity to study your Word, 01:38 we ask that you would ask us to retain all of this information 01:42 and be able to share it with others, 01:44 in Jesus name we pray, amen. " All: "Amen. " 01:47 James: All right let's just start, Yvonne, get us into this, 01:49 let's just read all the verses that are left, 01:51 14... all the way through verse 19 01:53 and we're going to see where we are, 01:55 the verses are going to tell where we are, 01:57 it's going to be really clear. 01:58 Yvonne: "The second woe is past; 02:00 and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. 02:02 And the seventh angel sounded; 02:04 and there were great voices in heaven, 02:06 saying, the kingdoms of this world are become 02:09 the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; 02:11 and he shall reign for ever and ever. 02:14 And the four and twenty elders, 02:15 which sat before God on their seats, 02:17 fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 02:20 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, 02:24 which art, and was, and art to come; 02:26 because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, 02:30 and hast reigned. 02:31 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, 02:34 and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, 02:37 and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants 02:40 the prophets, and to the saints, 02:42 and them that fear thy name, small and great; 02:45 and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. 02:48 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, 02:51 and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: 02:54 and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, 02:58 and an earthquake, and great hail. " 03:00 James: Wow! so... so... 03:03 Yvonne: A lot going on there. 03:05 James: Yeah, there's a lot going on there so... 03:06 so, going back to verse 14, we'll just start there 03:08 and we'll just go through it systematically, 03:10 in a nice organized fashion, so going back to 14... 03:13 "The second woe is past... " yeah, it's past... 03:16 I mean, we finished the second woe back in chapter 9 03:18 and since then we went through chapter 10 03:20 and most of chapter 11, so it's way past... right? 03:23 But, this phrase is made because, it's like John saying, 03:27 "Oh, by the way, the second woe we're back on track now, 03:30 remember that's an interlude that we had in Revelation 10, 03:34 it's kind of an interruption, a pause, if you will, 03:36 to re-calibrate the focus on God's people 03:41 and what God is doing in response to these trumpets, 03:44 remember the principle that we've identified 03:47 that when the trumpet is blown... 03:48 that's an opportunity for God's people to move forward 03:50 and so, Revelation 10 is giving us a picture 03:53 of God's people moving forward, the development 03:55 of what we call... in history the Millerite Movement 03:58 and the awakening... the great awakening... 04:00 and the disappointment of 1844... 04:02 based on that little book that was unsealed... 04:04 the book of Daniel... 04:05 and how they were called to prophesy again, 04:08 about God's temple and His altar 04:11 and to be witnesses for Him... 04:13 that testimony that was supposed to uncover 04:17 God's character of love, 04:18 through the cross and be a witness 04:20 or testified to... by God's people, 04:22 and then goes into the Dark Ages which we just went through 04:25 and that history recaps the background 04:28 out of which God's Millerite Movement 04:31 and God's people are going to be prophesying again, 04:33 there's a great darkness that's come on the earth, 04:35 people have been so upset with God and the Bible 04:37 they just burn it in the streets they got rid of it, 04:38 they persecuted the two witnesses 04:40 and destroyed them but then they realized... 04:42 "Whoa... that didn't work very well" 04:44 and they turned it around and the Bible was exalted 04:47 and now we get a chance to... well, the table is set 04:50 we are right now in contention with these forces 04:54 to actually bring out more and more of the character of God, 04:57 to do better than what was done in the Dark Ages, 04:59 so then we get on track... the second woe is passed... 05:01 okay, it's passed so the third woe comes quickly. 05:05 Now, a lot of people have come to the conclusion 05:08 that because the first woe dealt with Islam... 05:12 the rise of Islam 05:14 and the second woe dealt with Islam... 05:16 and the history... through the Dark Ages 05:19 of its assaults against this Papal Power, et cetera, 05:22 that, therefore, obvious conclusion... 05:25 the third woe must be Islam... 05:27 we don't actually find that as a truism in the Bible, 05:32 well, because the first church was this, 05:34 and the second church was this the third church would be this, 05:35 the first seal was this and the second seal was... 05:37 in fact, we find just the opposite, 05:39 the first seal... reveals the White Horse Rider 05:43 which represents Christ and His church 05:44 but the second seal and the third seal and the fourth seal 05:46 reveal... actually enemies of God's people, 05:49 so, it is not for us to come to conclusions 05:52 without investigating the text. 05:54 Yvonne: That's a really good point. 05:56 James; What does the text tell us, what does the text say? 05:59 And it's really important for us... when we look at this 06:02 to let the Bible be the source of our interpretation. 06:05 Yvonne: And not coming with pre-conceived 06:07 notions and ideas about it 06:09 but really finding out what the Word says 06:11 and not just assuming that it's going to say something. 06:14 Ivor: And I think it's important for us to remember again 06:17 that when we lay out principles in the Bible, 06:19 these principles help us to know "Well, it cannot be this, 06:24 we can safely rule this out because of the principle" 06:27 so if you look at the principles of the trumpets 06:30 and what we laid as a foundation that... number one, 06:33 when a trumpet is blown, 06:34 it represents the fall of the enemies of God's people, 06:38 okay, the fall of the enemies of God's people... 06:42 so, the... the... the object of the trumpet is 06:46 the enemy of God's people, okay, 06:48 so, while we have... under the first trumpet, 06:51 we have the enemies falling because they are the ones that 06:55 are attacking the people of God, okay, 06:57 so people of God are being attacked by a Power 07:00 and that trumpet... deals with that Power, 07:03 okay, to remove that power, 07:05 same with the second trumpet, 07:06 same with the third and the fourth and the fifth... 07:08 so when we get to the seventh trumpet, 07:10 guess what we're looking for? If you... 07:12 if you take it as Islam against the enemies of God's people, 07:19 then, what you basically have happening is that 07:21 God's people are finally delivered because of what Islam 07:25 or what the Muslim power does, 07:27 "And, phew, our final deliverance came from Islam... " 07:31 no, no, no, no, no, 07:33 our final deliverance does not come from Islam, 07:37 it comes from no earthly power so, we just have to ask, 07:40 "What is the... who is the final deliverer 07:43 of God's people from their enemies?" 07:45 And whatever that answer is because we're being consistent, 07:48 every trumpet is the removal of an enemy, 07:51 but, but... under the sixth trumpet, 07:52 God is using earthly entities, 07:56 things that are occurring in the natural realm, 08:00 the final deliverance... that's what we're looking for, 08:04 whatever the third woe is, 08:05 it must be the same thing as the final deliverance 08:08 so, guess what? You guys already... 08:10 I know we have a whole program left to go, 08:12 but we already know what that third woe is going to be. 08:18 Yvonne: Yes. 08:19 Ivor: And the woe... when you say, "woe," 08:21 I mean, that's... 08:22 it is not "whoa" like "Whoa, that's amazing" 08:24 but "Woe... " it's something that's terrifying 08:27 to the inhabitants of the earth, right, 08:29 so, who are the ones... it's not God's people saying, "woe" 08:33 it's the enemies of God's people saying, "Whoa... " 08:36 and what is that final thing that is going to 08:40 be a "woe" upon the enemies of God's people? 08:43 It's pretty obvious, 08:45 that it's got to be the return of Christ. 08:47 James: Which is really interesting, Ivor, because 08:50 look at this, the way that the first description 08:52 is given to the third woe, 08:54 just look at the first description, 08:55 "And the seventh angel sounded... " excuse me... 08:57 verse 14 again... "The second woe is past; 09:00 and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly. " 09:03 Let me just read to you a few verses... 09:04 Yvonne: Ah... 09:05 James: Just a few verses here, in Revelation, okay, 09:07 the first verse is going to be found 09:09 in Revelation chapter 3 and verse 11, 09:12 and Jason, can you read the second verse which will be 09:14 in Revelation 22:7, 09:16 and then Yvonne, can you read the third verse 09:18 which will be in Revelation 22:12, 09:21 and then, Ivor, can you read the fourth verse, 09:24 which will be in Revelation 22:20, 09:27 so, got those verses? 09:29 Revelation 22:7, Revelation 22:12, 09:32 Revelation 22:20 and I'm going to read Revelation 3:11, 09:35 Jesus is speaking to His church and He says, 09:37 "Behold, I am coming quickly: hold fast what you have, 09:41 that no one take your crown. " 09:43 Jason: Okay, "Behold, I come quickly: 09:46 blessed is he that keepeth 09:47 the sayings of the prophecy of this book. " 09:49 James: Okay. 09:50 Yvonne: "And, behold, I come quickly; 09:52 and my reward is with me, to give every man 09:53 according as his work shall be. " 09:55 Jason: "He which testifieth these things saith, 09:59 Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. " 10:02 James: The last verse is key because the person who says, 10:05 "I'm coming quickly... " is the Lord Jesus Christ. 10:07 Yvonne: Right. 10:08 James: "The second woe is passed and behold... 10:10 Jesus Christ is coming quickly" Yvonne: Hmmm... 10:12 James: "The third woe cometh quickly... " 10:14 Jason: Yes. 10:15 James: It just lines up perfectly, 10:16 the very principles that Ivor laid down 10:18 connected with the actual interpretation 10:21 of the verse in the book of Revelation, 10:23 God is not going to apply this phrase 10:25 to any other power when He's applying it to himself, 10:27 time and time and time and time again, 10:29 so immediately, we get on track with who this is referring to, 10:34 it's referring to Jesus. Yvonne: Hmmm... 10:36 Ivor: This is... this is really amazing 10:37 and so, watch this, in Revelation 11 verse 13, 10:41 the last part of that verse, 10:44 we covered it in our previous program, 10:46 right, it says, after this French Revolution thing, right, 10:51 it says, "the remnant were affrighted" 10:54 or feared... "and gave glory to the God of heaven. " 10:58 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... Ivor: Okay... 11:00 so, this we know... ties in with the first angel's message 11:03 given in Revelation chapter 14, 11:05 and they begin to preach, yeah, 11:07 "Fear God, and give glory to Him" 11:09 why? "for the hour of His judgment is come: 11:12 and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, 11:16 and all in that in them is" 11:17 so what you have happening here, 11:19 is, the beginning of the preaching 11:22 of the three angels' messages, now remember, 11:24 the angel... the two witnesses... 11:27 we learned about in the last program, 11:29 they ascended up into the cloud, at that very same time, 11:34 you see this angel standing with... 11:36 clothed with a cloud with this book in his hand 11:39 to give the people a final message, 11:41 that final message, is, "Behold He cometh quickly. " 11:48 Yvonne: Oh... Ivor: "He cometh quickly" 11:50 the preaching of the three angels' messages, 11:53 may be summarized as the preaching of the third woe. 11:56 "Behold He cometh quickly... " it was only then that they... 12:00 because, remember, at first, what were they... 12:02 they were preaching, "He commeth quickly" 12:05 but they didn't understand that His Movement 12:08 was... and this... we'll get into more detail 12:11 when we actually cover the 2,300-Day Prophecy 12:13 in the book of Daniel, we'll cover some of it here 12:16 but the Great Disappointment 12:18 was that they thought that Jesus was coming 12:20 to the earth... but in actuality... 12:22 He was moving from one phase of His ministry, 12:25 to the final phase of His ministry 12:27 which would begin the judgment which basically, 12:30 at that point, when they discovered that, 12:32 guess what they began to prophesy again? 12:34 They began to prophesy again, "Behold... He's coming quickly, 12:39 He is coming quickly, the third woe is coming... 12:43 He's coming quickly, 12:44 "World... Babylon... He's coming quickly... 12:51 if you don't want this woe, fear God and give glory to Him 12:56 for the hour of His judgment is come. " 12:58 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... does this mean... 13:02 in verse 13 that... there will be people from 13:05 that whole Atheistic frame of mind 13:10 that will be a remnant... 13:11 that will be frightened and give glory to the God of heaven? 13:15 Is this a reference to France 13:19 or is this a reference to all people who... 13:21 James: It's a reference to all of Europe... 13:23 everyone that looked on to what was happening in France 13:26 because the whole world was seeing 13:27 what was happening in France. Yvonne: Right... 13:28 James: Everyone was seeing it 13:30 and so, France sent a shockwave throughout the world, 13:32 Bible Societies were raised up in America and in England 13:36 and other places and the Bible became available 13:39 to people all over the world who had been influenced 13:40 by the philosophy of France, by Voltaire, by the liberty... 13:43 the principles of liberty that France developed 13:45 became part of the cornerstone of the United States of America, 13:47 they helped us in the Revolutionary War 13:50 so, all of that... had its impact on us, 13:52 you got to remember, 1798... 1776... 13:54 were all intertwined... the whole world is intertwined 13:57 and America could be one of the nations 14:01 that... that... not one of the nations of the city 14:04 but one of the nations of the world 14:05 that looked on this and said, "You know what? 14:07 We need to have God as part of the foundation 14:09 even though we are Deists... " 14:11 that's what a lot of our Founding Fathers were 14:12 we need to have the principles of the Bible as the foundation 14:15 because we don't want to repeat what happened there, 14:17 we want everything that France has to offer, except for that... 14:20 except for that... we don't want that, 14:22 so, basically, that's what we're seeing 14:24 in that verse that had that... verse 13... 14:25 Yvonne: Oh okay... 14:26 Ivor: So you look at... verse 15 where it talks about the... 14:30 "the kingdoms of this world are become 14:33 the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; 14:34 and he shall reign for ever and ever. " 14:36 Ivor: And this is going to be a reference 14:37 to the second coming of Christ, right, 14:39 when the kingdoms of this world, Daniel chapter 2... 14:44 they fall... and the kingdom of Christ is set up 14:48 at this time... not on earth... 14:50 we'll get into that as we get further into Revelation, 14:53 particularly Revelation chapter 20, 14:55 but the kingdoms of this world fall... 14:57 this is a reference to the second coming of Christ, 15:00 okay, the message that God's people began to preach 15:03 was that... "Christ is coming again... " 15:06 it would be... when they began to preach this in 1844, 15:10 I want to make a parallel between the 7th trumpet 15:14 and the 1st trumpet... okay... 15:16 remember in the first trumpet that... 15:18 what day was the first trumpet blown, 15:21 we know the day that the first trumpet was blown, 15:26 remember, the... the... prayers of the saints... 15:31 are ascending up... and then... fire falls 15:34 and the first trumpet is blown, right, 15:37 and that trumpet represents the events that occurred in 70 A.D. 15:40 Yvonne: Right... right... 15:42 Ivor: Okay, but when was the trumpet like... 15:44 when was the... when did the warning go forward 15:46 of when... of this event to come... 15:49 it went forward in 31 A.D. on the day of Pentecost 15:53 when Peter begins to preach and He quotes from Joel chapter 2, 15:57 so when he's quoting... 15:59 James: Even when Jesus was preaching, 16:00 He was talking about this. 16:02 Ivor: Yes, absolutely, but when Peter blows his trumpet 16:04 the Jews were looking around saying, 16:06 "We don't see any... blood and fire mingled with smoke, 16:10 why are you quoting Joel chapter 2?" 16:12 Right, but Peter was warning of the event to come, 16:15 the warning went out before the event happened 16:19 so it didn't come like... 16:20 James: That's the whole point of the trumpets' sequence. 16:23 Ivor: That's right... that's right. 16:24 James: The angels are given trumpets... 16:26 but then there's a pause... Ivor: Yes. 16:27 James: and then there's an angel with a sensor and incense... 16:29 going in... we pause and we see mediation, 16:32 we see fire poured out and we saw... 16:34 we see a warning message... 16:35 always you have the warning message ahead of the trumpet... 16:38 that's the point... Ivor is bringing here, 16:39 first there's a warning message before the trumpet comes. 16:42 Yvonne: Isn't this so much like in the Old Testament 16:45 where God would always warn His people first? 16:48 Yvonne: Before the Babylonian captivity, 16:51 he warned them for years... 16:53 before the flood, He warned them... 16:55 and then when there's... 16:57 when the response is not happening, 16:59 there's a consequence. 17:01 Ivor: Absolutely... so the third woe... 17:02 the warning begins... they begin to cry out in 1844, 17:06 "Behold He's coming... He's coming... " 17:07 James: "Coming quickly... " 17:09 Ivor: "Coming quickly... " the woe doesn't hit... right... 17:12 until the second coming of Christ. 17:13 Yvonne: Okay... Ivor: So... 17:15 James: So, what we see in these verses that follow 17:17 are depicting the second coming of Christ... 17:19 but we've got a pause here that's taking place... 17:21 that's why we have Revelation 10, 17:22 that's why we have the following verses, 17:24 we have a pause taking place between the actual fulfillment 17:27 and the time when the horn is blown... 17:28 the trumpet's blown... 17:30 Ivor: And what's interesting about this particular trumpet 17:34 is that the trumpet almost... in a sense... 17:37 because remember the people in 1844 17:39 thought that Jesus was returning then... 17:42 it's almost like this trumpet is kind of like... 17:45 remember that... that... 17:46 the bitter-sweet experience? Yvonne: Yes. 17:48 Ivor: They were thinking one thing 17:49 but it was actually something else. 17:50 In a sense this trumpet almost has like a... bookend 17:55 at the beginning of the trumpet and at the end of the trumpet 17:59 because if you look at chapter, I mean... verse 18 and 19... 18:02 "the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, 18:05 and the time of the dead, that they should be judged... " 18:08 okay, when does that happen? 18:09 The time of the dead that they should be judged. 18:13 James: Well, there are two applications... 18:14 the first one, of course, is 1844... 18:16 Ivor: Absolutely. 18:17 James: And the second one... 18:19 Ivor: Yes, so you have this... it's almost like a mirror 18:21 like what's happening in... 18:24 there's a first application of the time of the dead 18:29 that they should be judged... 1844... 18:31 but when Jesus returns... right... 18:33 that's when the second... 18:34 the, I want to use the second application but 18:36 it happens in reality, right, what happens symbolically... 18:42 I'll show you another one. 18:43 Yvonne: Yeah, because it's... here's my question... 18:48 if the Investigative Judgment is going on now, 18:49 then why is it that... that it's talked about in the future... 18:56 they would be judged, 18:58 because it's supposed to be going on now, 19:01 so, how do we justify that? 19:03 Ivor: So your question again, 19:05 let me just get your question straight 19:06 so, if the Investigative Judgment is going on... 19:09 Yvonne: If it started in 1844... and it's going on now, 19:13 then those... because those who died before 1844... 19:17 if it started in 1844... then it's going on from...? 19:21 Ivor: Okay, so, when Jesus returns, 19:23 okay, is there a judgment that is going to begin? 19:27 James: Yes. 19:28 Ivor: Yeah, a judgment of the dead... 19:30 James: Yes, yes... 19:32 Ivor: Right... right... 19:34 James: It's the 1000-year judgment. 19:35 Ivor: It's the 1000-year judgment. 19:36 Yvonne: Oh... I got you. 19:38 James: And that's where this applies primarily... 19:39 Ivor: So, as you're reading this you're actually seeing 19:42 "Okay, hey, 1844... the judgment of the righteous dead began, 19:47 but at the second coming of Christ, 19:49 the judgment of the wicked dead. " 19:50 James: that's why in verse 19 when it says, 19:52 "the temple is open in heaven... " 19:53 in 1844 the temple was opened in heaven and we did go in there 19:57 but at the end of that time... 19:59 Ivor: By faith... James: By faith... 20:00 but at the end of time, it literally is opened. 20:02 Ivor: Yes. James: You see what I'm saying? 20:03 Yvonne: I see... 20:04 James: In the end of... in this judgment... 20:06 in 1844 judgment... by faith, we enter into judgment 20:08 but when this actually happens, it's literally a judgment... 20:11 people are literally going to be standing 20:13 before the books of heaven... 20:14 the believers will never stand before literal books in heaven, 20:17 we'll never actually face the record of our lives 20:20 in a literal sense, because it's a faith venture 20:23 for this is foreshadowing, 20:25 this reality that this is talking about 20:27 is foreshadowing for us of our faith venture, 20:30 we enter in judgment in 1844 by faith, 20:32 we enter into the Most Holy Place in 1844 by faith 20:36 because we are not going to be experiencing 20:38 the reality of having to actually see the books open 20:41 and actually see the temple open and actually face the Law of God 20:44 without having that mediation. Yvonne: Hmmm... 20:46 Ivor: yeah, judgment begins in the house of God 20:48 right... James: 1st Peter 4... 20:50 Ivor: Yeah, judgment begins in the house of God... 20:52 James: verse 17... 20:54 Ivor: Yeah, and what that means is 20:55 God's people are judged first. 20:57 James: Everyone that professes faith in God... 20:58 everyone that professes faith in God. 21:00 Ivor: Yes, yeah... 21:02 James: Some of them may not be righteous, 21:03 it's everyone who professes, that's why they're judged. 21:06 Ivor: Those who are redeemed... those who are saved... right... 21:08 so, yeah, we want to be those that are... 21:10 that have faced judgment as it were, 21:13 and passed it... in the first judgment. 21:16 James: Yeah... Yvonne: Right. 21:17 Ivor: We don't want to be a part... 21:19 we don't want to be being judged 21:20 in that second judgment. 21:22 Yvonne: So, it's kind of like the two resurrections, 21:23 Ivor: Exactly. 21:24 James: It's exactly like the two resurrections. 21:26 it's exactly the same. 21:27 Yvonne: I never got that, okay. 21:29 James: So, you've got a parallel here that's taking place, 21:31 now, what's really interesting is... 21:32 and we're moving through this... 21:35 we've touched on the shadow, 21:36 the 1844 reality... okay... 21:39 there's where we see application to these two verses 21:42 in verses 18 and 19 in the Millerite Movement, 21:46 okay, but now we want to go back... 21:48 we want to see what is the reality... 21:50 how does this take place in reality because 21:52 this is closing out the third prophetic cycle. 21:55 The third prophetic cycle has to close out 21:57 not just with the second coming of Jesus, 21:58 remember, what is the third prophetic cycle, 22:01 what does each prophetic cycle close out with? 22:03 What does it take us to, where does it take us, 22:05 where is the end of the cycles? 22:07 The end of the cycles 22:08 is always the new heaven and the new earth, 22:10 it's always the new heaven and the new earth. 22:12 In Revelation... seven churches... 22:14 the promises are made to the new heaven and the new earth. 22:16 In Revelation... seven seals... we have the great multitude 22:19 standing before the throne, 22:20 and they don't hunger anymore, they don't thirst anymore, 22:23 He leads them besides rivers of waters, 22:24 in Revelation... seven trumpets, notice this, 22:27 as you come through here, 22:28 and what's really interesting is, 22:30 in the first woe... there's an army of horses, 22:36 the Muslims... an army of horses 22:38 that protect God's people, the sealed ones, 22:41 they come against the enemies of God's people 22:44 and they don't hurt the sealed ones. 22:45 Yvonne: In the second woe... there's an army of horses 22:49 that come against the enemies of God's people 22:52 but they don't hurt the sealed ones. 22:53 When Jesus returns... according to Revelation 19, 22:56 He comes on an army of horses... Yvonne: Hmmm... 23:00 James: He comes with an army of horses 23:01 and when He comes, He protects God's people, 23:04 He comes against the enemies of God's people, 23:06 but the sealed ones aren't hurt, so, the parallelism's here, 23:10 it's as though the second... 23:12 the first woe and the second woe are picturing for us 23:14 the reality of what's going to happen when Jesus returns. 23:17 There's the reality of what's going to happen 23:19 and when He returns in this context, 23:23 that's the time when the kingdoms of this world become 23:25 "the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ" 23:27 and in the context of verse 18 of Revelation 11... 23:29 not only... "the nations were angry, 23:31 and thy wrath is come, 23:32 and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, 23:34 and reward is given to the prophets... " 23:37 but notice what it says here, also, it says, 23:40 "reward is given unto thy servants they prophets, 23:42 and to the saints, and them that fear they name, 23:45 small and great; and that you shouldest destroy them 23:48 which destroy the earth. " 23:49 And that points us all the way past the 1,000 years. 23:51 Yvonne: Hmmm... 23:52 James: All the way down to the time... 23:54 when this heaven will be made new, 23:56 when the New Jerusalem comes down 23:58 and fire comes out of heaven and consumes those 24:02 who have turned against God 24:03 and we see a new heaven and a new earth, 24:05 it's the new heaven and the new earth again. 24:07 Ivor: So a couple of things that you want to remember 24:09 as you're looking at this is... 24:11 number one... you talk about the first woe... the second woe 24:14 and how they culminate in the third woe, 24:15 if you look at all the trumpets, look at the enemies... 24:19 how the enemies of God's people seem like they... 24:22 they grow larger and larger with each trumpet. 24:24 First it was just Jerusalem, right, under the first trumpet, 24:27 then it gets a little bigger... under Rome... 24:29 right, but now, in the third... 24:31 three through six it gets a little bit bigger... 24:33 it's now the Papacy... 24:35 under the 7th trumpet, it's not just the Papacy, 24:39 we're going to see as we study 24:40 get into Revelation 13 and all of that... 24:43 there is not just the Papacy but there's the dragon... 24:46 there's the beast, there's the false prophet... 24:48 James: The nations of the world. 24:50 Ivor: Yes, the nations of the world... it's the entire world 24:52 that is now gathered against the people of God... 24:54 James: "You'll be hated of all nations... " 24:56 Ivor: That's right, "You'll be hated of all nations... " 24:57 so when it says, "the kingdoms of this world... 24:58 are become the kingdoms of our Lord" 25:00 it's because the kingdoms of this world 25:02 are all against God's people and this time, 25:05 "Wow, who can God use to deliver His people?" 25:07 nobody... because everybody... 25:10 is now against them... Yvonne: Wow! 25:12 Ivor: So, now, He, Himself... is going to come 25:14 to deliver His people. James: I love that. 25:17 Yvonne: Wow, that's why this is a love story, right? 25:19 Ivor: Exactly... exactly, plus, remember this, 25:21 another point on this, under the... the trumpets... 25:24 under the 7th trumpet in particular, 25:27 when Peter blew the trumpet, he began to warn of this, 25:32 this is being fulfilled, blood, fire... 25:34 they're looking around like, "What are you talking about? 25:36 We don't see anything... " 25:38 they couldn't see what he was talking about 25:40 but at the... when the trumpet came to be fulfilled, 25:43 then they saw it... 25:45 Ivor: Okay, "The temple of God opened in heaven, 25:48 what do you mean, Jesus in the Most Holy Place, 25:50 what do you mean... what are you talking about, 25:53 ha... what...?" 25:55 James: But when the seventh trumpet is blown... 25:58 Ivor: When He comes again... guess what? 26:00 they're going to see... 26:01 exactly what the people of God have been preaching. 26:07 James: They're going to see... it's going to be a reality... 26:09 Yvonne: Beautiful... James: It is... 26:11 Yvonne: Wow! this is some beautiful stuff right here. 26:12 James: And when we look at this now, just really quickly, 26:14 we'll summarize this, when we look at this verse, 26:16 there's an order to it and I think it's really significant 26:19 God... when He sets up His kingdom... 26:22 at that point... when this reaches its complete fulfillment 26:25 at that point, in verse 18 it says, 26:27 "the nations were angry" 26:29 that's... "You'll be hated by all nations for my name's sake," 26:31 so the nations were angry... so that's past... 26:33 that's led to the death decree, 26:35 that's led to the final test for God's people, 26:37 "and thy wrath is come" 26:38 that's present... when Jesus comes... 26:40 the seven last plagues are poured out, 26:42 so the wrath of God has come... 26:44 in the seven last plagues which also parallel the trumpets 26:47 I wish we had time to go over that... but let's finish this... 26:49 "and the time of the dead, that they should be judged... " 26:51 that's the next thing... so the nations were angry 26:53 okay, hated of all nations, death decree... 26:55 "thy wrath is come... " probation's closed, 26:57 seven last plagues... 26:59 "the time of the dead, that they should be judged" 27:00 you've got a resurrection 27:01 and you've got us going to heaven 27:03 and the 1,000 years begin... 27:04 the time for judgment for those 27:06 who rejected Christ in that 1,000 years, and, 27:08 "that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, 27:11 and to the saints, and them that fear thy name... " 27:12 we're being rewarded... we've got this resurrection 27:14 we're given new bodies, 27:15 we're in heaven for all eternity, 27:17 we've got our crowns, our robes, 27:18 and that thou "shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth" 27:21 after the 1,000 years... 27:22 comes back down with the New Jerusalem City, 27:24 everyone's resurrected in the second resurrection, 27:26 there's a judgment and a final destruction. 27:28 This is the order... 27:29 verse 18 gives us a perfect order of events... 27:32 "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, 27:34 and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: 27:36 and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, 27:38 and an earthquake, and great hail. " 27:40 That's part of the second coming of Christ 27:42 because all these verses 27:43 are speaking of the second coming of Christ, 27:45 so that's part of the second coming of Christ, 27:47 His temple will literally be opened, 27:49 people will literally see the ark coming forth 27:51 and they'll literally face the record of God's Law. 27:54 We are out of time... we are out of time, 27:56 so I'm glad we got through that. 27:58 Yvonne: That was rich. James: Good... good. 27:59 Jason: Amen. Yvonne: Amen. |
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