Participants: Ivor Myers (Host), James Rafferty (Host), Jason Bradley, Yvonne Lewis
Series Code: SISS
Program Code: SISS000051A
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00:30 We are in the book of Revelation...
00:32 Revelation chapter 12 specifically 00:35 and we left off... kind of in the middle of the chapter 00:37 we want to get back into that 00:39 but before we do, 00:40 we have been asking people to send in their questions 00:43 Program after Program... time after time... 00:46 we've been telling people, "Hey, we got this number... 00:48 we've got this e-mail... you can send your questions here 00:51 but you know what we haven't done? 00:52 Taken questions... 00:53 We haven't taken any questions, 00:55 we haven't answered any questions, 00:56 people are writing all these questions 00:58 and they're piling up and we're not... 01:00 We're in Revelation chapter 12 so it's a transition point 01:03 right, so after studying the first eleven chapters, 01:07 people are getting their questions ready 01:09 chapter 12 onward... we start answering questions. 01:12 Sounds good. 01:13 That's a great explanation Ivor, way to pull us out of that. 01:17 All right... so we have a few questions we're going to address 01:21 as we get started in this program 01:24 but let's begin with a word of prayer. 01:25 Yvonne, would you like to pray for us? 01:27 Sure, "Father, we're so grateful to you 01:29 for the privilege of studying your Word 01:31 and we thank you that you've given us this manual 01:34 where we can know just what's going to come... 01:38 as Danny says, 01:39 "We've read the back of the book... " 01:41 and we know Lord that we win because of you... 01:44 because you won... because you are the victor... 01:47 so we just thank you for being victorious 01:50 and for giving us victory as well, 01:52 we just pray right now that your Spirit will be with us, 01:56 guide us and direct us Lord and help us to learn and apply 02:00 the information that we're studying, 02:03 in Jesus' name, amen. " 02:04 "Amen... " 02:05 I really like that... that phrase... "the manual" 02:09 God hasn't really left us without a manual 02:11 and the reason I like that so much 02:13 is because I just bought a vehicle that is... 02:16 well, it has a lot of miles on it so it has a lot of issues 02:19 I got a really good deal on that, 02:20 that's what I like... to be totally honest 02:23 it's a Toyota... but it doesn't have a manual, 02:25 and I really need a manual because I'm troubleshooting, 02:28 I'm trying to take things apart and fix things 02:31 and there's no manual 02:32 but we have a manual... 02:34 God has not left us without a manual 02:35 and the manual is the Bible 02:37 and it tells us how we are created 02:40 and it gives us the big picture of what God's purpose is 02:44 and shows us the details as to how we function 02:47 and it helps us to troubleshoot... 02:49 it helps us to troubleshoot... 02:51 We need that... we need that manual. 02:53 All right, I've got a question here... 02:55 to start us out... it's in relation to Revelation chapter 8 02:58 the chapter that we've covered already, 03:00 and the question here comes from Ray Tucker... 03:04 and Raymond Tucker and he says, 03:05 "Blessings, Saints of God, I was watching the broadcast 03:08 and I heard that the golden altar in Revelation 8:3 03:10 was the altar of burnt offering 03:12 which was from the sacrifice of Jesus 03:14 and brought into the Holy Place 03:15 as I understand it, 03:17 the altar of burnt offering was of brass... 03:18 but both altars of incense 03:21 and the ark of the covenant were gold 03:23 therefore, as the passage continues in verse 4 03:26 with the smoke of the incense, 03:27 it shows that it might be the altar of incense... 03:30 see also Revelation 6 under the fifth seal... 03:33 God bless... I'm enjoying the study. " 03:34 Good question, Raymond. 03:35 So let's just go to the verse, 03:37 maybe Jason, you could read it for us, 03:39 Revelation chapter 8 and verse 3. 03:42 Okay, "And another angel came and stood at the altar, 03:46 having a golden censer; 03:48 and there was given unto him much incense, 03:50 that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints 03:54 upon the golden altar which was before the throne. " 03:58 Okay now, here's the important transition in this verse, 04:02 this verse is talking about two altars... not one altar... 04:05 so the first altar that's mentioned 04:07 is not described as a golden altar. 04:10 The second altar is described 04:12 as the golden altar before the throne. 04:14 So, Raymond was saying here that... 04:17 "I heard that the golden altar in Revelation 8 was the altar" 04:20 excuse me... that the altar... 04:22 "the golden altar in Revelation 8:3 04:23 was the altar of burnt offering. " 04:25 Well, actually, the golden altar in Revelation 8:3 04:28 is not the altar of burnt offering, 04:30 the golden altar before the throne 04:32 is the golden altar of incense before the throne 04:35 but the first altar is the altar of burnt offering 04:38 and a lot of people miss this. 04:40 They think, "Oh, the altar... 04:42 that the angel is standing next to 04:43 is the same as the golden altar... it isn't... 04:45 there's a transition taking place here, 04:47 what God is showing us here is that Christ is taking 04:51 the offering that He made on... 04:53 the sacrifice that He made... on the altar in the Courtyard 04:56 which represents Calvary and the Cross... 04:58 He's taking that sacrifice into the Heavenly Sanctuary... 05:01 He's taking it into the Heavenly Sanctuary 05:03 and when Christ ascended to heaven 05:05 and He brought with Him the merits of His sacrifice, 05:08 He went into the Holy Place, 05:09 He went into the first compartment 05:11 of the Heavenly Sanctuary... 05:13 there's a Sanctuary in heaven, Hebrews 8 tells us very clearly 05:16 and there are two compartments there 05:17 Hebrews 8 and Hebrews 9 tell us that very clearly 05:20 and when Christ went to heaven, 05:21 He... according to Revelation 8:3, 05:23 He went into the compartment that has the golden altar 05:26 that is before the throne 05:27 and that compartment is the Holy Place. 05:29 Just to build on that in verse 5, 05:31 it says that... continues to say, 05:34 "The angel took the censer, 05:36 and filled it with fire of the altar, 05:38 and cast it to the earth... " 05:40 it again mentions the altar, 05:43 right, not the golden altar... the altar 05:46 so if we were to take this and go back to the book of Leviticus 05:48 let's go into the book of Leviticus chapter 16 05:51 and we will see... in Leviticus 16... 05:55 that it was the altar of sacrifice 06:00 which the priest would take 06:03 the coals of fire to light the incense 06:06 so Leviticus 16, verse 12, it says, 06:10 "he shall take a censer... " 06:11 right... so there goes the censer... 06:13 "full of burning coals of fire 06:15 from off the altar before the LORD... " 06:17 Yeah, and that's the same sentence in Revelation 8, okay. 06:21 Absolutely, so the altar here is the... 06:24 is the altar in the Outer Court 06:25 which represents Christ's sacrifice. 06:27 It is this... let's look at it this way... 06:31 everything in heaven... our whole... 06:35 the whole Plan of Salvation 06:36 was based upon the fire from that altar. 06:38 So Christ's sacrifice... allows the Plan of Salvation... 06:42 it is His sacrifice that allows the fire from heaven... 06:45 The Holy Spirit... 06:47 That's right... the Holy Spirit to fall. 06:48 Yeah, He said, "I'm going to heaven... 06:50 and if I'm going... I'm going to send the Holy Spirit. " 06:52 That's right... 06:54 So the angel takes that fire from the sacrifice of Christ 06:56 lights the altar of incense... in the censer 07:02 lights the altar of incense in heaven 07:04 sends that fire down as the Holy Spirit upon us. 07:08 Hmmm... 07:10 So... two different altars... 07:11 Amen... Wow... 07:12 Good stuff... Hmmm... hmmm... 07:14 All right... another question here... 07:15 "Who is Michael in Revelation 12:7 and 8... 07:18 who is Michael in Revelation 12:7 and 8?" 07:22 Okay, let's go with... Revelation 12:7 and 8... 07:27 let's go back to the Old Testament... 07:28 in fact, why don't you read Revelation 12 verses 7 and 8 07:31 first... and then we'll go into the book of Daniel. 07:33 Yvonne, would you like to read those for us? 07:34 Sure... "And war broke out in heaven: 07:36 Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; 07:39 and the dragon and his angels fought... 07:41 but they did not prevail, 07:43 nor was there a place found for them in heaven any longer. " 07:46 Okay, so, the Bible speaks about Michael and His angels 07:51 yeah, Michael and His angels... 07:52 you have the dragon and his angels, 07:55 both representing opposite sides, okay, 07:56 so whoever this "Michael" is... He has angels... 08:01 Hmmm... hmmm... 08:03 He has angels... 08:04 So, we go back to the Old Testament 08:07 to get a good idea of who this Michael is 08:09 because that's where He's first mentioned. 08:11 Daniel chapter 12 and verse 1 and this really is very simple, 08:16 in fact... most of the Protestant Reformers agreed 08:19 with the position of who Michael is 08:21 based upon a study of the Scripture 08:23 but in Daniel 12 verse 1, the Bible says there, 08:29 "And at that time shall Michael stand up, 08:32 the great... " what? 08:35 "prince... " so He's the... 08:37 He's not... "a prince" 08:39 He's "the great prince" 08:41 Hmmm... 08:42 All right, so, who's the great prince? 08:44 Well, just hold your thought there 08:45 and let's go over to the book of Daniel 08:47 chapter 9... we're in Daniel 12... 08:50 now let's just jump back a couple of chapters... 08:53 I'm going to go to Daniel chapter 9 and... 08:57 Daniel chapter 9 is the 70-week prophecy... 08:59 and in that prophecy it speaks of the coming of the Messiah 09:02 and I want you notice what the Messiah is called... 09:05 Hmmm... 09:06 Daniel 9 verse 25... you want to read that Yvonne? 09:10 Sure... "Know therefore and understand, 09:12 that from the going forth of the command 09:14 to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince... " 09:18 Okay, so... "Messiah the Prince... " 09:20 so the Bible just told us, 09:21 "Okay, Michael is the great Prince... " 09:24 Daniel 9... "Messiah the Prince... " 09:26 "the great Prince... " 09:28 Michael and the Messiah are one and the same... 09:31 so the word "Michael" means the One who is as God, 09:34 that's what the name means... "the One who is as God... " 09:37 now, some people object and say, "No, no, no, no, no... 09:39 that's all wrong because Michael is an angel... " 09:43 and we know that angels are created... okay... 09:47 but an angel is not necessarily a created being... 09:50 the word "angel" simply means "messenger" 09:54 so, Michael is the highest messenger... 09:57 that's why He's called "the archangel" 09:59 the highest of all messengers... 10:01 Hmmm... 10:02 Let me share with you just two more verses on this 10:06 and then we can get into the Program, but... 10:09 I got a couple of thoughts too. 10:10 Okay, well then let's just look at 1st Thessalonians... 10:13 no, no, no, let's stay in the Old Testament 10:15 let's look at Malachi chapter 3 verse 1, 10:17 Malachi 3 verse 1... 10:19 and this is speaking to the issue of the angel. 10:24 Was Christ an angel or not? 10:26 Malachi 3 verse 1... 10:28 the Bible says, "Behold, I will send my" what? 10:32 "messenger... " 10:34 and the word there is actually "angel" 10:36 that's what the word "messenger" is in the Hebrew... "angel" 10:39 "and he shall prepare the way before me: 10:42 and the LORD, whom you seek, 10:45 shall suddenly come to his temple, 10:48 even the messenger... " what's the word? 10:51 same word for angel... right... 10:55 so "the angel of the covenant" 10:59 who is that speaking about? Speaking about Jesus... right? 11:03 He is the messenger of the covenant... 11:05 so the angel in this context does not mean a created being 11:09 it simply means, "messenger" 11:12 and so, Michael is the highest messenger, 11:17 He is the "arch... " the highest of all... 11:21 He is the Messiah the Prince... 11:23 in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 we read that Michael... 11:26 that when Jesus comes again... He descends with a shout... 11:30 with the voice of the archangel... 11:33 so we have two options... 11:35 either when Jesus descends... He's like, 11:37 "Hey Michael, let me borrow your voice for a minute... 11:40 so I could... " or... 11:41 the voice of the archangel is His own voice. 11:44 Hmmm... 11:45 And it is that voice... yeah... 11:47 He says, "My voice... " 11:49 John 5... "they shall hear the voice of the Son of God" 11:53 right... and the dead shall rise 11:55 so when we go back to Daniel 12 the time of... 11:59 there will be a time of trouble, Michael shall stand up 12:01 and they shall be delivered... everyone that is found... 12:04 written the Book... 12:06 many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth... 12:08 it all brings us back 12:10 to the fact that Michael is another name... 12:13 was the pre-incarnate name for Jesus, 12:16 before He came to this earth. 12:19 So, can we assume that He manifested Himself 12:26 in a different form as Michael... 12:32 was He... did He... you know what I'm asking? 12:36 Well, here's a point maybe that could help clarify that 12:39 and that is... we know that Christ is divine 12:42 John chapter 1 tells us, 12:44 "the Word was with God, and the Word was God" 12:46 in the beginning He was with God... 12:47 and then He became flesh... 12:49 Christ becoming a man does not make Him less divine 12:53 so God can become anything He wants to and still be God. 12:58 He can come... the Holy Spirit can come in the form of a dove, 13:00 God can appear in the form of a burning bush... 13:02 Jesus can some as a man or an angel or a messenger... 13:06 it doesn't mean He's not God, 13:07 and I think this is really important... 13:09 another important point here is... 13:10 is that... the archangel... 13:13 that word in the Greek actually means, "the chief of the angels" 13:15 the Commander-in-Chief of the United States Army 13:18 is the President... he's not an enlisted man... 13:21 he's the Commander-in-Chief 13:23 and it's interesting that if you go through the Bible 13:26 you will never find a place 13:27 where anyone else is ever called an "archangel" but Michael 13:31 no one else is called an archangel... nobody... 13:34 not Gabriel... not anyone else is called the archangel 13:37 only Michael is the Chief of the angels... 13:38 because He's the only One who's the Chief of the angels... 13:40 He's in-charge of them... they're His angels... 13:42 now if they're His angels... what does that tell you? 13:45 That He's an angel? No... not at all... 13:47 so, when you look at all the evidence, 13:49 we don't have to be scared to allow Christ to be a man 13:53 or to be Michael... 13:55 any more than God coming in the form of a dove 13:57 or a burning bush... 13:59 because it doesn't diminish the divinity of who Christ is. 14:03 Christ is divine... Christ is God... yeah... 14:05 Okay, we've got... 14:07 We need to get into the Program. 14:09 Yeah we do need to get into it but there was one more... 14:11 there was one more question I was thinking about 14:13 in relation to... what was it? 14:16 The Program... someone has asked 14:19 why our Programs are only half an hour. 14:21 That's it... I'm going to touch on it. 14:23 That's one of the things that's so special about this Program 14:28 this Vera Marie wrote, "Your Bible Study is awesome 14:33 but very complex and so intricate, 14:35 I believe 30 minutes are surely too short... 14:38 it would pay off to take a good hour to discuss, 14:41 extrapolate and dig into such complex topics... 14:44 and give us a simplistic mind the ability to absorb, digest 14:51 and fully process this precious information. 14:54 Please consider a full hour 14:56 and would you have all the Programs recorded 15:00 available for purchase?" 15:01 We do have all the Programs available for purchase 15:04 and all they have to do is call 618-627-4651 15:09 wait until they hear Ms. Mollie's precious voice... 15:12 and press number 2 and that will take them to the Call Center 15:16 which is open Monday through Thursday 15:19 7:30 a. m. to 5:30 p. m. Central time. 15:22 Good answer... That's a lot of information. 15:25 It was but... taken in bite-size pieces. 15:28 Yeah, bite-size pieces... that's why we do half an hour. 15:32 Let us mention that when we first decided to do the Program 15:36 and James and I were speaking 15:38 the first time we came, we said, 15:39 "We should be able to get to maybe Revelation chapter... 15:42 I don't know... maybe half-way through the book, 15:44 on our first visit... 15:46 and after our first visit, 15:48 I think we had stopped at Revelation... 15:50 at the end of Revelation chapter 2... 15:52 or just beginning chapter 3, 15:54 and I was like, 13 Programs... 15:55 we're like, "Okay, this is going to be 15:57 much longer than we thought so, bite-size... 16:00 so you can digest it 16:03 and we're just taking our time going through the book. 16:05 By-the-way, a lot of people that call the office 16:08 when these Programs go on 16:09 comment on that... and they love it. 16:11 They love the fact that we're going slow, 16:13 they love the fact that this is bite-size 16:14 and they love the fact that we're doing 16:15 a detailed study in Revelation 16:17 they're just not finding that in a lot of places, 16:19 so they're really appreciating that 16:21 and what I want to say also to this question is, 16:24 if you want an hour, do get the DVDs 16:27 because you can sit through half hour 16:29 and then another half hour and another... 16:31 another half... you can go through hours of them 16:33 one after another 16:34 so they are being aired every day... 16:36 On Dare to Dream every day at 6:30 p. m. Central time. 16:40 Yes. 16:42 So, if people want to see it every day, 16:44 they can watch it on Dare to Dream, 16:46 if you want to see it... I think on Parent Network 16:49 it's on... twice a week... once on Sabbath afternoon 16:52 or evening... and just check the schedule for 16:56 on the Parent Network... but we are on everyday 17:00 so... depending on... you know, if people want more 17:03 they can get more or they can purchase the DVDs. 17:07 Not to mention but... like... we want to learn this stuff too 17:11 so we need 30 minutes... 17:13 if we do an hour and all this stuff is coming our way... 17:17 Overload... overload. 17:19 Hmmm... hmmm... 17:20 So Ivor, you mentioned the dragon and his angels... 17:24 and we have this model that has been loaned to us. 17:27 Yeah we have the dragon on all Programs. 17:29 Yeah, that's good. 17:30 Here it is... 17:32 This is one of a number of models 17:34 that we're going to be using from Australia 17:36 and we're going to give in the Credits... 17:37 we're going to give the information for our Viewers 17:39 they can get ahold of these, 17:40 they can use them in classroom illustrations 17:43 they can use them in Evangelism Bible Studies, 17:45 these are great illustrations, 17:47 you can see here that this dragon has seven heads 17:50 and there are ten horns there 17:52 and then in the tail there you see... 17:54 what it is basically is... 17:56 is a picture of the universe with all the stars 17:58 and the point here is... 18:00 he deceived the third part of the stars of heaven... 18:03 it's like heaven with all the stars 18:05 so this is illustrating Revelation chapter 12's dragon. 18:08 The seven heads connect to Daniel chapter 7 18:11 where you have the succession of kingdoms 18:14 with a total of seven heads, 18:16 you have: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece which had four heads 18:19 and Rome... seven altogether 18:21 and then the ten horns in Daniel chapter 7 again 18:26 with crowns... that are monarchies... 18:27 so this is illustrating that 18:29 in Revelation 12 you have a continuum of the book of Daniel 18:33 with these nations coming to pagan Rome 18:35 which is typified by the dragon 18:38 the dragon is, of course, Satan 18:40 where he's working through these earthly kingdoms 18:42 and he's seeking to up-end and to distort and misrepresent God 18:47 and God's kingdom and God's Plan of Salvation 18:50 through these various earthly kingdoms 18:52 so one of the things that we're going to see in Revelation 18:55 is the symbolism, you know there's heavy symbolism 18:59 but if you break down the symbols 19:01 it's really easy to understand what's taking place here 19:03 so God uses these symbols because... 19:05 you know, it's interesting isn't it? 19:07 You look at this right here and you think, 19:09 "Whoa, that's the kind of stuff that a lot of kids are into... 19:12 all these different figures and action figures or whatever 19:15 and it's all over the place now, 19:16 we've got dragons and dinosaurs and whatever... " 19:18 so God actually was way ahead of the game. 19:21 He foresaw the interest... the intrigue... 19:24 the curiosity that we would have toward these kinds of images 19:27 and so He uses them in Bible Prophecy 19:30 to get our attention and to introduce us 19:32 to the powerful truths of history, and prophecy... 19:37 that bring us the Plan of Salvation. 19:38 Hmmm... hmmm... 19:40 These visual aids are definitely helpful because you can see it. 19:44 Yes... yeah... 19:45 good way to get it going especially for young people, 19:48 we're going to get a couple more as we go through these Programs 19:50 but right now we're in Revelation 12... 19:51 so this one parallels Revelation chapter 12, 19:54 the dragon that we've been taking about here 19:56 I think we left off in about verse 12 of Revelation 12... 20:01 is that correct? 20:03 Let's just pick up there... Revelation chapter 12 20:05 and verse 12... Jason, can you read that for us 20:08 and we'll go from there. 20:09 "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, 20:12 and ye that dwell in them. 20:13 Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! 20:16 for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, 20:19 because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. " 20:21 Okay now, this is the conclusion 20:24 of this picture that we've seen here of the cross of Calvary 20:28 and basically what's happened here 20:30 is that we have been redeemed 20:32 by the deception of Satan by the cross... 20:35 the cross has revealed 20:36 the self-sacrificing other-centered love of God. 20:40 The unselfish love of God has been revealed 20:42 to the whole entire world. 20:44 Christ coming as a man-God in human flesh coming... 20:47 and giving Himself as a sacrifice... 20:48 not just for our sins 20:50 but also for the sins of the entire world 20:52 redeeming this planet from the deception of Satan 20:56 and so, salvation has finally come 20:59 and the heavens are rejoicing 21:01 because there have been questions... 21:03 the deception of a third part of the stars of heaven here 21:06 illustrated in the tail 21:07 there have been questions even in the heavenly universe 21:10 about God's character and they've been answered. 21:12 God is a God of love 21:15 and these questions have been answered in the heavens 21:18 but what of the inhabitants of the earth? 21:20 What's going on there? 21:21 The devil has come unto you with great power 21:24 because he knows his time is short 21:26 so what is taking place here as we move into these... 21:30 these verses following? 21:31 That's what we want to unfold. 21:33 I also want to just ask you guys to really focus on that term... 21:40 "short... has a short time... " 21:43 because we're going to pick up on this theme 21:45 actually throughout the rest of the book of Revelation. 21:48 Hmmm... 21:49 It's kind of interesting that as you look at Revelation 21:52 in chapters 1 through 11, 21:53 you've been seeing just lines of history... 21:57 God's taking us from the cross 22:00 all the way down to the end of time... 22:02 cross... that's what happens with the seven churches... 22:04 seven seals... the seven trumpets... 22:06 they begin at a certain time and then take us down... 22:09 Revelation 12... we saw... 22:10 it's a re-cap of the entire book... 22:14 the entire book of Revelation, 22:16 in fact, you know what's interesting... 22:17 I don't know if we're going to be able to finish this 22:21 but Revelation chapter 12 is... is so powerful because 22:24 it is literally the entire Bible in one chapter. 22:30 Hmmm... 22:31 The entire Bible in one chapter. 22:33 It begins with the woman 22:35 who is told that she's going to be... 22:39 she's going to be having a child 22:40 and, of course, remember in our previous Program 22:43 we took it all the way back to Eve, 22:45 the promised Messiah was given... 22:48 the promise of the Messiah was given to Eve 22:50 so in that first verse of Revelation 12, 22:51 we basically have the whole history of the Old Testament 22:54 waiting for the coming of the Messiah, 22:57 then you get into the Messiah coming, 22:59 then you get into what happens after He comes... 23:03 He dies... He ascends to heaven... 23:05 and then you see this history of the dragon 23:08 being cast down to earth, 23:10 we're going to see this woman fleeing into the wilderness 23:13 for a time... times... and half a time... 23:16 which we're going to see is 1,260 years... 23:19 once we go into it 23:20 and then it ends with the final conflict 23:24 between the dragon and God's end-time people 23:27 that's the entire great controversy 23:29 all in there... from beginning to end... 23:31 the entire Bible juiced down into one chapter. 23:35 Wow! 23:37 That's just great. 23:38 It's amazing... Revelation 12 is an amazing chapter. 23:40 So, that short space or that short time, 23:43 really takes on a special significance 23:46 once we get into chapter 13 23:48 because like... chapter 13 onward... 23:50 it says, "Okay, now we're going to focus on 23:53 what that short time really, really is all about. 23:58 Hmmm... hmmm... hmmm... 23:59 Okay, so He was cast out... in the beginning... 24:02 we see he was also cast out again... 24:04 at the death of Christ in another way 24:07 but there's a final way in which the dragon comes down. 24:11 James had just mentioned earlier 24:14 that the dragon is working through earthly powers 24:18 but there's a time that he actually sheds 24:21 the earthly powers and comes as himself. 24:24 Hmmm... hmmm... Hmmm... 24:25 Not as himself but... 24:27 comes himself... as somebody else. 24:28 As somebody else. 24:30 Hmmm... 24:31 He's no longer working behind kingdoms, 24:32 now he's... "I'm here myself... 24:34 but as somebody else to claim my kingdom. " 24:36 Wow! 24:38 It is true, if you look at... 24:39 we're in the 4th prophetic cycle, 24:41 Revelation 12 begins the 4th prophetic cycle 24:44 so the 7 churches as one... the 7 seals as two... 24:46 and the 7 trumpets as three... this is four... 24:48 this prophetic cycle actually ends in Revelation 14 24:51 if you think about it. 24:53 It's just 12, 13 and 14... 24:55 it's a kind of a summary and rehash of everything we've got 24:58 but it's climaxing in the end of time 25:00 15 judgments... plagues... 25:03 16... plagues... details... 25:05 17... judgment of the whore, 25:07 18... re-cap of the loud cry... the judgment... 25:11 Babylon is fallen... 25:12 19... judgments... 25:14 20... 1,000 years... he's here... 25:17 saints in heaven... books opened... 25:20 everything is finished... 25:21 21... New heavens and new earth. 25:24 So really... 13, 14... is it... 25:26 we're moving into the last actual... 25:29 and the thing about this that's so interesting is 25:32 everything we've been studying so far... 25:34 most of it is prophetic history, 25:36 prophetic history... prophetic history, 25:38 now, we're moving into the future, 25:40 we're moving into prophecy that has not been fulfilled yet 25:43 and we are going to be looking at some predictions 25:47 that are so absolute... so powerful... 25:49 based upon the history of what we've seen 25:51 that they're really going to help us to understand 25:53 what the future holds... 25:54 a lot of people are not sure, 25:56 "Is it going to be this... is it going to be that?" 25:58 we're into Muslim... Islamic terrorism... 26:02 we're into, "Why is China... 26:04 what place... role do they play, 26:05 what role does Russia play, what about United States, 26:07 is the Papacy still a valid power?" 26:09 Revelation 13 makes it very, very clear 26:11 who the main players are. 26:13 Hmmm... 26:14 Very clear... Wow... 26:15 And we can be happy that it is just a short time. 26:20 Yes... Yes... yes. 26:22 Because if this time were not shortened... 26:24 even the very elect... right? 26:27 So, He's letting us know, 26:30 "Hey, the things I am about to tell you, 26:31 they look... they look bad... 26:33 but I promise you... 26:35 the devil knows that when this happens, it's just a short time 26:39 so what you're going to see in Revelation 13, 14 onward... 26:43 short time... 26:44 Yeah, we are there... 26:46 So, Revelation chapter 12 is going to finish up in a sense... 26:51 re-cap for us a little bit of the history 26:53 that we've already looked at in some of these verses 26:55 the woman in the wilderness 26:57 but it's really powerful because there's a connection 27:00 between this woman that's given two wings of a great eagle 27:03 in Revelation 13... there's direct connection there 27:05 there are certain symbols that are mentioned here 27:08 that are going to take us into Revelation chapter 13 27:11 and give us a good foundation 27:12 for what's taking place right there, 27:15 namely the earth is mentioned here, 27:17 in Revelation chapter 12, 27:18 the earth helps the woman in verse 16 27:21 and in Revelation chapter 13:11 27:23 a beast comes up out of the earth 27:26 so we're going to make a connection there 27:28 but we have run out of time for this Program 27:30 so Jason, close us out with the number 27:32 that people can call to get ahold of us... 27:34 they can get the Programs and ask questions. 27:36 Okay, they can call: 618-627-4651 27:41 and press the number 2 when they hear the voice 27:43 that's to order the DVDs. 27:45 now for the questions, 27:47 they can e-mail us at: sss@3abn. org 27:51 All right, thank you so much we are out of time right now 27:53 but we are going to get right into Revelation chapter 12 27:57 finish it up and then... move into Revelation 13 and 14. 28:00 Yea... |
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