Participants: Ivor Myers (Host), James Rafferty (Host), Jason Bradley, Yvonne Lewis
Series Code: SISS
Program Code: SISS000053A
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00:29 Okay, we're in Revelation 13,
00:31 this is a huge chapter 00:34 because unlike a lot of the previous prophecies, 00:37 this one is building to our present time, 00:39 actually, to our present time and beyond. 00:42 We are going to be looking at material right now, 00:44 we're going to be looking at prophecy right now 00:46 that takes us back to the book of Daniel... 00:48 lays a foundation 00:50 for the history that we've already covered 00:51 but catapults us into the future... 00:54 into the direction that we're going right now. 00:57 Actually, if our listeners are really careful 01:01 and follow us step by step, 01:03 we're going to be predicting the future of this world, 01:06 not just this country but this entire world, 01:08 and it's not us who's doing that, of course, 01:11 it's the Word of God that's doing that 01:12 but we're going to be looking at the prophecies 01:14 that predict the future of this country and of this world 01:16 in Revelation chapter 13. 01:18 It's a really important chapter, in fact, I have this page... 01:21 it's removable in my Bible... 01:23 my Bible is old enough to where it came out, 01:25 I think I used it so much so that it came out 01:27 but it's kind of handy when I teach class on Revelation 13, 01:30 I can just take this one page and so it's really nice, so... 01:33 but we're going to start, of course, with a word of prayer 01:35 and then we want to get into a question 01:37 we're trying to answer one question per program 01:38 and we have a question that we want to look at 01:40 that Ivor has, so he can read that for us 01:42 so, Yvonne, would you want to start us 01:43 with a word of prayer so we can do our question? 01:45 Sure, "Father God, what a privilege it is 01:47 to open your Word 01:49 and to know that your Spirit will guide us into all truth, 01:52 we thank you Lord 01:53 and I just pray right now for your Spirit, 01:56 we pray that you will continue to guide and lead us 02:00 and help us all to understand where we're going 02:03 and that you didn't leave us without a guide 02:06 you've given us a guide and we thank you so much 02:10 so we pray for your Spirit, in Jesus' name, amen. " 02:13 "Amen. " 02:14 All right, so, the question is actually based upon 02:20 Joel 2 verse 13... and... 02:23 I'm going to summarize it here, 02:26 kind of juice the question down but basically he's asking, 02:29 "Does God hear our prayers when we ask for forgiveness 02:33 or does He... does He bypass our prayers 02:38 because He sees... He thinks that we're not being sincere" 02:41 in other words, if someone's struggling with, 02:43 "How can I know if God really forgives me or not?" 02:46 And for some reason, there's... we read in Joel 2:13 02:50 it's kind of confusing as to whether God forgives 02:53 or is willing to forgive if we have... 02:56 I think... continue to fall into sin... 02:59 or haven't been able to overcome something... 03:02 does God just say, 03:04 "Okay, forget it, you know, I've had enough?" 03:05 So, Joel 2:13... 03:08 Let's read Joel 2:13, you want to read that for us Jason? 03:12 Jason: Sure, 2:13... or to 14? Ivor: Joel 2 and verse 13. 03:15 Jason: Okay, "And rend your heart, 03:18 and not your garments, and turn unto the LORD your God: 03:21 for he is gracious and merciful slow to anger, 03:24 and of great kindness, and repenteth him of the evil. " 03:27 James: That is a really beautiful verse, 03:30 it's a powerful verse, the context of this was... 03:33 a nation who were God's people, 03:35 who were continuing with the forms of religion... 03:38 the outward forms... professing to be God's people 03:41 going to the temple... worshipping God 03:43 but their hearts were far from Him 03:45 and the message Joel was delivering was, 03:48 "You need to rend your hearts and not just your garments... 03:50 not just the outward... it needs to be an inner experience. " 03:52 Why? Well, because God is gracious 03:55 and God is merciful and God is slow to anger 03:59 and God is of great kindness and He doesn't even... 04:02 He wants to turn away repentant... 04:03 that means to turn away from Him... 04:05 He wants to turn away even from the evil 04:06 that is the natural consequence of the things that you're doing, 04:10 the things that God sometimes has to allow the judgments... 04:13 He sometimes has to allow, He wants to turn away from those 04:15 and you see this, for example, in the story of Nineveh... 04:18 where God says, "40 days... the city is going down" 04:20 and then what happens? 04:22 Well, it was a wicked city, 04:23 it was so bad, Jonah did even want to go there 04:25 and yet the whole city repented, just like the verse says, 04:30 and when they repented, what did God do? 04:31 Ivor: Forgave them. 04:33 James: He did... He forgave them 04:34 and He turned away from the evil 04:35 that He told Jonah to tell them was coming 04:38 and it was so amazing... so gracious and merciful of God 04:43 that Jonah got upset about it, he was so upset 04:46 so there are times... 04:48 for this person who is writing this question about 04:52 "is my forgiveness real... has God really forgiven me? 04:55 I feel like, maybe He hasn't... " 04:56 there are times in our experience of darkness, 05:01 there are times of struggle 05:03 and there are times when we're just... 05:05 we can be overwhelmed with ourselves 05:07 and with our falleness and our weakness, 05:10 but God is always there to forgive us, 05:13 He is more inclined to forgive us 05:17 than we are to forgive ourselves 05:18 and so we look at this verse and we look at the story of Jonah 05:22 and we just go, "Yes, God is... " 05:24 even if it angers self-righteous... 05:27 sometimes you can't listen to self-righteous preachers 05:29 like Jonah... because they're upset about how God forgives 05:32 and how gracious He is at times. 05:33 Ivor: Yep. 05:35 Yvonne: We can't rely on how we feel. 05:36 Jason: I was going to say that. 05:38 Yvonne: It's what the Word said 05:39 because if we go by how we feel Satan is going to... 05:43 oh! he's the accuser of the brethren... 05:44 so he is going to keep trying to make us feel 05:47 as though we just can't get it right, 05:50 well, on our own we can't but praise the Lord, 05:53 we're all sinners and in need of a Savior... 05:55 that's why we have a Savior, so, when the devil starts 05:58 trying to make you feel not forgiven, 06:00 just... 1st John 1:9 says, "He is faithful and just... 06:06 if we confess our sins, 06:07 He's faithful and just to forgive us our sins 06:09 and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" 06:11 and we just trust that He's cleansing... 06:13 it's a process... so... 06:15 James: Amen... amen... 06:17 Praise God, okay, let's get into our verses here, 06:19 we're back in Revelation... Jason is going to say that too, 06:23 so Revelation 13... and let's just begin reading here, 06:26 I think we should read probably the first what... 06:29 one, two, three, four... 06:33 maybe we should read all the way through verse ten... 06:36 the first half... should we read the first half of the book? 06:39 Hmmm... hmmm... Yeah. 06:41 Okay, Jason lead us off here, 06:43 can you read the first four verses and then 06:45 Yvonne, can you read the next few... 06:47 "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, 06:50 and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, 06:53 having seven heads and ten horns, 06:55 and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads 06:58 the name of blasphemy. 06:59 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, 07:03 and his feet were as the feet of a bear, 07:05 and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: 07:07 and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, 07:10 and great authority. 07:12 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death: 07:15 and his deadly wound was healed: 07:18 and all the world wondered after the beast. 07:20 And they worshipped the dragon 07:22 which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, 07:26 saying, Who is like unto the beast? 07:28 who is able to make war with him?" 07:31 "He was given a mount speaking great things and blasphemies; 07:36 and he was given authority to continue for 42 months. 07:39 They opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, 07:43 to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, 07:45 and those who dwell in heaven. 07:46 It was granted to him to make war with the saints, 07:49 and to overcome them: and authority was given him 07:52 over every tribe, tongue and nation 07:55 all who dwell on the earth will worship him. 07:58 whose names have not been written in the book of life 08:01 of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 08:04 If anyone has an ear, let him hear. 08:07 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity: 08:12 he who kills with a sword must be killed with the sword. 08:18 Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. " 08:21 Okay, before we go back 08:23 and just look at these verses point by point, 08:25 one thing just... is magnified here... 08:28 I think we really need to emphasis it 08:30 and that is... the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world 08:34 the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world 08:36 is centered in Revelation 13 08:39 and a lot of times we get... we get stuck 08:42 buried even... by all of the symbolism and prophecy 08:47 and all of the negative and we forget, 08:50 "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" 08:51 so I think it's so powerful that God puts, 08:54 "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world" 08:56 right here in the middle 08:57 of one of the most significant prophecies of the Bible 09:00 in the book of Revelation 09:01 reminding us where our source of strength is, 09:05 reminding us where we need to go to, 09:07 reminding us that the cross is still here 09:09 because the Lamb represents Christ crucified... 09:11 the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, 09:13 it's Calvary... 09:14 and a lot of times when we read Revelation, 09:16 especially Revelation 13, 09:17 we're talking here about the Mark of the Beast 09:19 and this other power that comes out 09:20 and makes an image to the beast 09:22 and no one can buy or sell, and we're going to get killed... 09:24 we forget about the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world 09:28 and God does not want us to forget 09:29 about the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world 09:31 so that's key. 09:33 Okay, going back... I just want to give a shout-out to 09:36 Brendan Valiant in South Tweed, Australia, 09:40 he goes to the Kingscliff Church 09:42 which is where David Asscherick pastors... 09:46 who is part of Light Bearers, works with us a little bit, 09:48 and Brendan and his wife have developed these... 09:52 he calls them "Historicals" he's developed these models 09:55 for Daniel and Revelation and they're amazing, really, 09:59 these are 3-D presentations, 10:00 he actually wanted me to use these in a classroom setting... 10:04 at ARISE... I teach Revelation and Daniel 10:06 and I said, "I'll do better than that... 10:08 we're doing a program on Daniel and Revelation right now 10:11 and we're in Revelation 12, send them over to me" 10:14 and so he shipped them over 10:15 and unfortunately, on the way over here... 10:18 one of these... broke this guy broke right off. 10:21 Ivor: One of the heads was wounded. 10:23 James: One of the heads was wounded! 10:25 and I thought, 10:26 "Brendan, we got to pass this on to you buddy... 10:29 you need to have a removable head on this... 10:31 on this model because... because this works perfectly" 10:35 now, the 3ABN Crew here 10:36 put some sticky tape on the bottom of this 10:38 so we could put the head back on 10:40 because the deadly wound is going to be healed 10:41 so you have an amazing illustration here, 10:44 you've got this beast that has the seven heads and ten horns 10:49 with crowns on the horns, it's got feet like a bear 10:51 it's got a body like a leopard, it's got mouth like a lion 10:56 and the dragon gives him his seat and his power 10:58 and great authority... 10:59 Yvonne: Wow! James: And what you have here... 11:02 you have a direct reference to the book of Daniel 11:04 and the historical sequence of the kingdoms 11:07 of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome 11:09 so, Babylon is the mouth of the lion, 11:12 Medo-Persia is the feet of the bear, 11:14 Greece is the body of the leopard... 11:16 then you have the dragon representing pagan Rome 11:18 all of these are coming over to the book of Revelation, 11:21 and in the book of Revelation, it continues further... 11:24 the prophecy works out even further, 11:27 you've got the ten horns which are the ten kingdoms of Europe 11:29 with their crowns representing... 11:31 they were monarchies... 11:33 we're going to see a beast rise up out of the earth, 11:35 coming up... it has no crown... 11:36 which represents more of a Republic or Democracy 11:39 and then you've got the head that was wounded... 11:42 and the wound is going to be healed. 11:43 So this is illustrating what we've just read. 11:45 This model right here illustrates 11:48 everything we've just read 11:49 and what we want to do now is... we want to dive in... 11:51 we want to understand, "now what does this mean 11:53 in relation to prophecy today, 11:56 how is this connected to what's taking place today?" 11:59 Well, obviously, first of all, 12:01 Daniel is reaching back to the book of Revelation, 12:03 I mean, Revelation is reaching back to the book of Daniel, 12:05 John is reaching back to Daniel and he's picking up 12:08 the history of Daniel going backwards, 12:10 looking backwards, in other words... 12:12 when Daniel goes forward, he goes, 12:14 Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, Ten Horns, 12:16 when John looks backward, he goes, 12:19 Ten Horns... and then he goes... 12:21 Rome, Greece, Medo-Persia and Babylon 12:27 because he's looking backwards. 12:28 So, we're coming up to our present time and what... 12:31 basically what John is doing is, 12:33 he's picking up where Daniel left off 12:34 and he's going to take us further 12:36 so Daniel 11 left off with these four kingdoms 12:39 but ah... there's a little bit of question mark there, 12:42 what takes place next? 12:43 Well, Revelation 13 is going to tell... 12:44 Revelation 13 is kind of like a Daniel 13 if you will... 12:47 Daniel has 12 chapters... 12:48 Revelation 13 is kind of like a Daniel 13, 12:51 taking us one step further into the future. 12:53 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 12:54 Ivor: Like you said Revelation 13:1 and 2 12:55 is Daniel 2, Daniel 7, juiced down into two verses 13:03 right, we just have all the beasts there... 13:06 they're composite beasts, 13:08 they're all put together as one 13:09 but they're representing what we learn in the book of Daniel 13:12 and in the book of Daniel chapter 7 and Daniel chapter 2 13:16 which we have not gone over yet in detail 13:19 but we will... in the future. 13:21 So, you have this beast 13:24 that is a reflection of Daniel chapter 2 verse... 13:28 I'm sorry, Daniel chapter 7, I should say, 13:31 even though Daniel chapter 2 parallels those same beasts 13:35 and then, in verse 3, it says, 13:40 "I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death" 13:43 the question is, "What this that wound?" 13:47 Right, what is that wound? 13:48 I believe down in verse, Revelation 13, 13:52 verse 10, 13:58 the Bible says, "He that leadeth into captivity: 14:00 shall go into captivity: 14:02 he that killeth with the sword must be killed with a sword. " 14:06 This is a reference back to this very persecuting power 14:11 that dominated for 1,260 years, it persecuted the saints 14:17 it sought to change God's times and laws, 14:23 and what we find is that... 14:26 at the end of this 1,260-year period 14:28 this power is incapacitated, right, receives the deadly wound 14:33 and this is in 1,798 so that 1,260-year period 14:39 that we have been talking about in previous studies, 14:43 began in 538... 14:46 that's when the Papacy began to dominate really... 14:50 all of Europe, 14:52 they were a political and religious power 14:54 so that's important to remember 14:57 their authority came from the fact 15:01 that Church and State had been united 15:05 in order to persecute 15:06 okay, in 1798... that Church-State Entity, 15:13 was separated, in other words... 15:15 the very thing that gave it power to persecute, 15:18 was taken away from it in 1798... 15:21 this is the deadly wound that's being described. 15:25 So... then the Bible goes on to say, 15:29 "After this deadly wound" Revelation 12 verse... 15:34 James: And by-the-way Ivor, 15:35 I like what you brought out there 15:37 when you connected verse 10 to verse 3 15:38 because in verse 10, 15:40 the deadly wound is described historically in detail, 15:43 "He that leads into captivity must go into captivity... " 15:46 for the 1,260-year period, 15:48 the Papacy had led God's faithful people into captivity, 15:51 when the Papacy received the deadly wound in 1798, 15:55 Berthier who was Napoleon's General 15:58 marched in to Paris and took the Pope captive... 16:03 he went into captivity... 16:05 "He that kills with a sword must be killed with a sword" 16:08 so it was the military power of Napoleon and Berthier 16:11 that took the Pope captive... put him in prison where he died. 16:14 So it's kind of a 16:15 reaping-and-sowing type of principle 16:17 that God is bringing out... but it fits the history perfectly, 16:20 so it's not just the verse 3, the deadly wound... 16:22 but it's also the details of the deadly wound... 16:24 he led into captivity... he goes into captivity... 16:26 he kills with a sword... he must be killed with a sword. 16:27 Yvonne: Wow! 16:29 Ivor: So what we have happening now, 16:30 the Bible says in Revelation 13 verse... 16:33 latter part of verse 3, so after it says, 16:35 "I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death" 16:39 and then it says, "and his deadly wound was healed" 16:44 okay, so let's pause right there... 16:45 we're probably going to spend some time on this because 16:47 if before he was wounded, right, 16:51 what was... what was he doing? 16:54 he was persecuting the people of God 16:57 right, when he's wounded... 16:59 persecution stops... 17:01 so the healing of the wound 17:03 would indicate the starting up of... persecution. 17:06 James: By the Civil Power. 17:07 Ivor: In other words, 17:09 Church and State come back together again 17:12 to persecute. 17:14 This is when the deadly wound is healed. 17:17 Now when you get a wound, it takes some time... 17:20 James: Especially if it was deadly. 17:21 Ivor: Especially if it was deadly, 17:23 so there's a process of healing 17:25 but there comes a point where it is totally healed 17:27 and so this is key because 17:30 we look back in the history and we look at, 17:33 you know, what the Papacy is... 17:36 you know... they are what they were in the Dark Ages 17:38 right, they are again a Church-State Entity 17:42 but they don't have the power 17:44 that they had back in the Dark Ages 17:45 right, that hasn't returned yet 17:47 when this happens, whatever event this is... 17:50 when it happens... look again in verse... 17:53 verse 3... look at the last part of that verse. 17:56 "His deadly wound was healed" 17:58 and what? 17:59 "All the world wondered after the beast. " 18:03 When this wound is fully healed, 18:07 the whole world wonders after the beast. 18:11 Yvonne: Hmmm... 18:13 Ivor: In other words, this is something that... 18:14 causes everyone to fall in line okay, 18:18 so we're looking for something 18:20 that's going to bring about persecution... 18:22 it's going to be something that causes the whole world 18:25 to wonder... to worship the beast. 18:28 So, I want to talk about this time 18:31 because it's actually a time that the whole world wonders 18:35 I want you to think about that, 18:36 think about... when we say, "the whole world... " 18:38 just think about different groups of people 18:41 that you... you know... we have Muslims... 18:43 Hindus... Atheists... yeah, all kinds of people in the world... 18:49 James: Secular... Ivor: Yeah, Secular right? 18:52 so, in order for the whole world to fall in line 18:55 to get on one page... I'd like to say it this way, 18:59 "It would have to take a miracle... " 19:01 Yvonne: It would. Ivor: A miracle... 19:03 so look in my eyes as they get wide... a miracle... 19:06 James: Many miracles... 19:08 Ivor: Or many miracles for this to happen, right? 19:10 So now that we're going to see that this healing of the wound, 19:13 it's been... the wound has been in the process of healing 19:18 but something happens that brings it to... 19:20 James: It's final... Ivor: Where the whole... 19:22 so what we need to see is... 19:24 "Okay, has Jesus given us anything in the Scripture 19:26 that shows us a time when the whole world will wonder... " 19:31 all right, so let's do this, we're going to go back 19:34 to the book of... we're going to go to the book of 19:36 James: Matthew 24... Ivor: Matthew chapter... 19:39 you know what? Before we... we'll go into 24, 19:41 hold that there for a moment, let's go back in Revelation... 19:45 and I want you to notice something 19:46 in Revelation chapter 13 19:48 and I want you to notice verse 15... or rather, verse... 19:52 James: Revelation 13:15? 19:54 Ivor: Revelation 13 verse... 19:55 James: Because we haven't gone to Revelation 13:15. 19:57 Ivor: Right, Revelation 13 verse 12... 20:02 or verse 13... verse 13... 20:06 so, here in verse 13 it says, "And he doeth great wonders, 20:10 so that he maketh fire come down from heaven 20:14 on the earth in the sight of men. 20:16 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth... " 20:19 just pause right here for a second... 20:20 what happens to those on the earth 20:22 as a result of this fire falling from heaven? 20:26 They are deceived by the miracles... 20:28 right, so I want you to take Revelation 13 verse 3 20:31 "the whole world wondered... " 20:33 Revelation 13:12... the whole world is deceived. 20:37 Ah, this might be talking about 20:39 something that is in the same time period 20:42 or same event that's leading to the whole world going... 20:44 that's leading to Muslims and Atheists 20:48 and everyone just... 20:49 so what would this event be? 20:51 Fire falling from the sky... deadly wound healed... 20:54 persecution beginning... 20:55 by-the-way... it's this verse in verse 14, 20:57 that... the Bible says that the whole earth... 21:00 in fact... the latter part of that verse 21:03 "he deceived them that dwell on the earth 21:05 by the means of those miracles 21:07 which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; 21:08 saying to them that dwell on the earth, 21:10 that they should make an image to the beast, 21:13 which had the wound by a sword, and did live. " 21:16 Now, an image to the beast... how many of you remember 21:20 anything in the Bible about an image being set up 21:23 that people had to bow down to? 21:25 Remember the story of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego? 21:29 Whoever would not bow down would be... what? 21:31 Persecuted... 21:33 Remember, the healing of the wound 21:36 is the setting up of Church and State 21:38 for the purpose of persecuting the people of God 21:42 okay, so, let's go now to the book of Matthew 24. 21:45 I'm going to see, "Does Jesus give us anything 21:48 in Matthew 24 that would let us know... oh... 21:51 this is the time that the whole world... " 21:53 James: And by-the-way, just for our Viewers' sake, 21:56 Matthew 24 is a prophetic chapter 21:58 so Matthew 24 would parallel 22:01 Revelation and Daniel's prophetic books 22:04 because here's where Jesus in His gospel 22:06 gives a prophetic account of history 22:09 some of which, for us, is past 22:10 and some of which is still future... 22:12 Ivor: So Matthew 24 and beginning with verse 4, 22:15 the disciples ask Him... ask Jesus saying, 22:18 "When will be the signs of your coming?" 22:21 So notice what he's asking, 22:23 "When will be the sign of your coming?" 22:25 Right? Then Jesus said, 22:27 "Take heed that no man... " what? 22:28 "Deceives you... " 22:30 so the first thing He starts off with is, 22:31 "Hey, regarding my second coming don't let anyone deceive you. " 22:35 Okay, then He goes on to say, "Many shall come in my name, 22:38 saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 22:41 And you shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: 22:44 see that you be not troubled: 22:46 for all these things must come to pass, 22:47 but the end is not yet. " 22:49 So, He's saying, "Hey, there are certain things 22:50 that are going to happen, don't worry about it, 22:52 don't worry about it... I mean, yeah, 22:54 they're going to be troubling but don't be worried about it. " 22:55 Read on... verse 7... or rather... verse 8... 23:01 "All these are the beginning of sorrows. 23:02 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, 23:06 and shall kill you: 23:07 and you shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 23:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, 23:14 and shall hate one another. 23:15 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 23:17 And because iniquity shall abound, 23:19 the love of many shall wax cold. 23:21 But he that endureth unto the end, 23:23 the same shall be saved. 23:24 And this gospel of the kingdom 23:26 shall be preached in all the world 23:27 for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. " 23:30 And now notice verse 15, now He says this, 23:32 "When you therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, 23:38 spoken of by Daniel the prophet, 23:40 stand in the holy place, 23:42 whoso readeth, let him understand: 23:44 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 23:47 Let him which is on the housetop not come down 23:50 to take anything out of his house: 23:52 Neither let him which is in the field 23:55 return back to take his clothes. 23:56 And woe unto them that are with child... " 23:58 and He goes on... notice verse 21... 24:00 "For then shall be great... " what? 24:02 Yvonne: Tribulation... 24:03 Ivor: Okay, what is tribulation? 24:05 What would that mean? 24:06 Yvonne: Persecution... Ivor: Persecution... 24:08 so He says, "When you see the abomination... " of what? 24:10 Desolation... set up... 24:13 that's when you know 24:16 persecution is coming... so could it be that the 24:18 "abomination of desolation" being set up... 24:20 would parallel the 24:23 healing of the deadly wound in Revelation 13 24:26 which would parallel the miracle... 24:29 miracles of Revelation 13? 24:32 Well, look at what He says right after this. 24:35 He says, "Then... " oh, by-the-way, verse 22, 24:39 verse 21... "For then shall be such great tribulation, 24:41 such as was not since the beginning of the world 24:44 to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 24:46 And except those days should be... " what? 24:49 "shortened... " 24:50 now what would you call time that's shortened? 24:53 James: Short time... Ivor: A short time... 24:55 remember in Revelation 12:7... 12:11... 24:59 where it says that the dragon came down unto the earth 25:02 and he knew that he had a short time... 25:05 James: Verse 12... 25:07 Ivor: Wait a minute... so the dragon at some point 25:09 comes down to the earth knowing he has a short time... 25:11 whatever this short time is... 25:13 that's the time that the whole world 25:16 is going to be deceived... they're going to wonder... why? 25:20 look at the very next verse, Matthew 24 verse 22, 25:24 verse 22, "Except those days should be shortened, 25:27 there should no flesh be saved... " 25:29 that's how serious this time is 25:31 "but for the elect's sake it shall be shortened. 25:33 Then if any man shall say unto you, 25:35 Lo, here is... " who? 25:37 "Christ, or there; believe it not. 25:39 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, 25:42 and shall shew great signs and wonders; 25:44 insomuch that, if it were possible, 25:46 they shall deceive the very elect. " 25:48 And then He says, 25:49 "Hey, listen, if they say unto you... 25:52 I'm in the secret chamber... don't go for it, 25:55 if they say, I'm in the desert, don't go for it... " 25:58 why? "because as lightning 25:59 shines from the east even unto the west, 26:02 so shall the coming of the Son of man be. " 26:05 This counterfeit that He's warning against... 26:08 is a "counterfeit coming" of the Son of man. 26:12 It is the dragon being cast out... 26:14 now, what did He say? 26:15 "As lightning shines out of the east even unto the west... " 26:19 in Revelation 13 where it talks about fire falling from the sky, 26:24 guess what the word here that is used for fire? 26:26 It is the Greek word... "Por" Por I believe, there's a Por 26:30 that is the word used for lightning 26:32 Satan's miracle... this miracle in Revelation 13 26:36 will have something to do with fire... 26:37 what do you think of fire falling from the sky? 26:39 James: Lightning... Ivor: Lightning... 26:41 so this has something to do then 26:43 with Satan himself coming and giving power to the beast 26:47 and the false prophet 26:48 and this miracle... 26:50 and we're going to talk about this more... 26:52 because there are other miracles involved with this... 26:55 but it's these miracles that bring about that persecution 26:58 that's going to come at the end of time. 26:59 James: So, basically, what you're saying Ivor is, 27:03 Matthew 24 is giving us a basic outline of deception 27:06 false Christ... false Christ... false Christ... 27:08 leading up to the abomination of desolation... 27:10 the culmination of this major religious persecution, 27:15 and it is supplemented by 27:17 Satan trying to personate 27:19 and duplicate the second coming of Jesus. 27:22 When Jesus comes, 27:23 it's going to be lightning bright... from east to west... 27:26 Satan is going to try to counterfeit that... 27:27 his is going to be connected with some "secret chambers" 27:31 and places where people go 27:33 so he's going to show up in different places, 27:35 whereas when Christ comes, it's like... everyone sees it... 27:38 it's worldwide... every eye shall see Him... 27:40 but it is a counterfeit... 27:42 Ivor: And this is what makes them wonder... 27:43 James: Yes, and this is the lightning connection 27:45 that we have... to the fire from heaven in Revelation 13. 27:47 Ivor: That's right. 27:48 James: Good stuff... all right we are, amazingly, out of time 27:52 it goes so fast but we're not done with this, 27:55 we're going to come right back to this, 27:56 we're going to study it more because there's a lot here 27:58 that we need to do here. 27:59 Yvonne: It's good stuff... James: Yeah... simulate. |
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