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Series Code: SISS
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00:31 James: Yes, we are moving through Daniel 11. 00:34 I... I have to say 00:35 even though this is one of the most difficult chapters, 00:37 it's one of my favorite chapters. 00:38 Yvonne: Hmmm... 00:39 James: I love Daniel 11 00:41 especially as we get into these verses 00:42 that we're heading into right now 00:44 because while they're difficult and challenging, 00:47 there's so much here... 00:48 there are some nuggets here 00:50 that are really going to be helpful for God's people 00:52 especially in the end of time. 00:55 So, we left off in about verse 35 00:57 and I think it would be good to pick up at 36, 01:00 we can always go back a few verses 01:02 so, we'll... we'll... after we pray, 01:03 we'll pick up in 36 and we'll just try to understand 01:06 what is happening in these verses 01:08 as it relates to Bible prophecy. 01:10 So, Jason, would you like to have a prayer for us 01:12 as we start? Jason: Sure... hmmm... hmmm... 01:14 "Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you so much 01:16 for revealing to us your desire for a relationship with us 01:20 through these books... 01:21 through the whole Bible but through Daniel 01:24 with the new covenant and all of that as well. 01:26 Father, we just ask that you'll guide this study 01:29 and help us to understand what we're learning, 01:31 in Jesus' name we pray, amen. " 01:33 All: Amen. 01:34 James: Thank you Jason. Jason: Amen. 01:36 James: So, let's pick up here in Daniel 11, 01:39 Ivor, can you read that verse for us... Daniel 11 verse 36? 01:42 Ivor: Right, verse 36, 01:45 "And the king shall do according to his will; 01:48 and he shall exalt himself, 01:50 and magnify himself above every god, 01:53 and he shall speak marvelous things against the God of gods, 01:58 and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: 02:01 for that that is determined shall be done. " 02:05 James: Now, this is a challenging verse 02:09 but we have a little bit of Biblical help with this verse, 02:13 Paul actually quotes from this verse in the New Testament. 02:17 There is some references in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 02:20 that we can look at that will help us to identify 02:24 who this king is that's being talked about here 02:27 in Daniel 11:36... 02:29 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 what verses are they? 02:31 Yvonne: Three and four. James: Three and four, 02:32 let's just look at those, 2nd Thessalonians 2:3 and 4. 02:35 Yvonne: "Let no one deceive you by any means; 02:39 for that Day will not come 02:40 unless the falling away comes first, 02:43 and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 02:46 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God 02:50 or that is worshiped, 02:52 so that he sits as God in the temple of God, 02:55 showing himself that he is God. " 02:57 James: Now, this is a really interesting section of Scripture 03:01 in 2nd Thessalonians 03:02 because if you look at the whole... the whole section, 03:06 Paul is talking about two powers... 03:10 they are one... just like we've been talking about in Daniel, 03:15 he's talking about Rome in its pagan phase 03:17 and in its Papal phase. 03:18 Yvonne: Hmmm... 03:20 James: Now, he doesn't understand it in the Papal Phase 03:21 He's simply saying, "There's a man of sin coming 03:23 and this Power that we're presently under 03:25 is going to be taken out of the way 03:27 and the man of sin is going to be revealed 03:29 and all he does... instead of saying who that man of sin is, 03:33 he gives us characteristics 03:34 but you notice that he is almost quoting 03:37 Daniel 11 verse 36. 03:39 Yvonne: Hmmm... 03:41 James: It's almost like a word for word quote, 03:42 I mean, if you look at it here, 03:43 there's no place else in the entire Scripture 03:46 that Paul can actually be referencing 03:48 when he identifies the man of sin 03:50 but Daniel 11 verse 36, "He exalts himself... 03:54 sits in the temple of God showing himself that he is God" 03:57 Daniel chapter 11:36 says, 04:00 "The king shall do according to his will: 04:01 he shall exalt himself 04:03 and magnify himself above every god, 04:05 and speak marvelous things against the God of gods. " 04:08 Yvonne: Hmmm... James: Isn't that amazing? 04:09 Ivor: Hmmm... James: The correlation there. 04:11 Yvonne: Hmmm... 04:12 Ivor: Hey James, I got good news for you. 04:14 James: Bring it. 04:16 Ivor: That Daniel 7:25. James: Wooooh! 04:19 Ivor: "He will speak... " James: Yes. 04:23 Ivor: I know some translations put it as "boastful words 04:27 against the Most High. " 04:30 James: Yes. Yvonne: Right. 04:32 Ivor: Revelation 13... I believe it's verse... what? 04:39 3 or 4... James: Hmmm... hmmm... 04:41 Ivor: Revelation 13... I'm pulling it up... 04:46 verse 6... oh, verse 5... verse 5, 04:50 "And there was given unto him a mouth 04:53 speaking great things... " 04:55 so, his mouth is getting him in trouble. 04:57 All: Laughter. 04:58 James: With God. 05:00 Ivor: With God. James: Yeah. 05:01 Ivor: And in... in both Revelation 13... 05:04 Daniel 11... 05:06 Thessalonians as well as Daniel 7:25, 05:09 it's all identifying the same Power. 05:12 James: Yes. 05:14 Yvonne: Hmmm... James: Same Power. 05:15 Ivor: And it's identifying it by its mouth. 05:16 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 05:18 Ivor: Right, so it not only thinks 05:19 to sit in the temple of God showing himself to be God, 05:22 but the things... the blasphemies that are spoken 05:26 are an important point here to identifying 05:30 that this is the same Power we're talking about 05:33 from Daniel 11 verse 23 onward. 05:35 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 05:37 and by the way, when we look in the Bible 05:38 we know that blasphemy is identifying yourself as God 05:42 because Jesus did that and He was accused of blasphemy. 05:47 Now, Jesus was God so He... that was a wrong accusation 05:51 and the second thing that we find in the Bible is 05:54 when Jesus claimed the power to forgive sins 05:56 and they accused Him of blasphemy... 05:58 "Who can forgive sins but God?" 06:00 Now, Jesus was God so He had that power 06:01 but for a man to claim that... and that's what the Papacy does. 06:05 They claimed through the Priesthood 06:06 to be able to forgive sins 06:08 and they claim for the Pope the title of God Almighty on earth. 06:10 "You're the Vicar of Christ God Almighty... " 06:14 so, we need to recognize that this is what it means here 06:17 when it says, "Blasphemy" 06:18 this Power blasphemes or speaks words of blasphemy... 06:21 it's not... like some people would think, 06:23 "Well, it must be a non-religious power... " 06:26 a lot of people believe that Antichrist is a power that... 06:29 it's... it's non-religious... it's... it's against God 06:32 so it must be a dark, bad, wicked, devil, 06:35 you know, worshipping power... no... 06:38 the word "Anti" actually in the Greek 06:41 can mean "against" or it can mean "in the place of" 06:43 in the place of... 06:45 and so, this power puts itself in the place of God... 06:49 is what Paul is telling us in 2nd Thessalonians 06:51 and that connects us back to Daniel chapter 11 and verse 36. 06:55 Yvonne: Hmmm... 06:56 He's exalting himself above God 06:58 putting himself in the place of God. 06:59 Yvonne: Wow! 07:00 Ivor: And this... this throws a lot of people 07:02 because they expect Antichrist to be some evil, wicked, 07:07 you know, "Here I am with my pitchfork" 07:10 and... okay... so that's easy for us to identify 07:14 and... and so, people end up looking in the wrong direction, 07:18 in the wrong place for Antichrist 07:20 and that is part of this... part of the deception. 07:24 James: Hmmm... hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 07:25 James: Paul warns about this power in the book of Acts, 07:29 I think it's 26... and he says that from your own selves 07:32 will men arise and seeking to... 07:36 to draw men after themselves 07:38 and that's the key right here. 07:39 You know, I think this is a virus in Christianity 07:43 and that is self-exaltation 07:45 and men seeking to draw men after themselves 07:47 and it's not necessarily a virus that leaders and preachers 07:52 are guilty of. 07:54 You know, when Paul was writing to the church in Corinth, 07:58 he was talking to the believers there 08:01 who were "sanctified" in Christ 08:02 and he was saying, "But you're carnally minded 08:04 because some of you say, 'I'm of Apollos' 08:06 some of you say, 'I'm of Cephas' 08:08 and some of you say, 'I'm of Paul. '" 08:09 He said, "Isn't that carnal? Aren't we all of Christ?" 08:11 Yvonne: Hmmm... 08:12 James: Don't set yourself up to be a follower of another man. 08:15 Don't idolize a human being no matter how much... 08:19 because honestly, God is using that person 08:22 as an instrument to bring you to God and to Christ 08:25 and to the truth. 08:26 It's not about that person 08:27 because what happens many times is 08:29 when we started idolizing people, 08:31 God has to allow that person to fall 08:33 so that we can say, "Whoa, man!" 08:35 and get our eyes off that person and get them back on Jesus. 08:38 Yvonne: Yes. 08:39 James: So, do us a favor... do all human beings a favor 08:42 and keep your eyes on Christ. 08:44 We see this in the world... the secular world. 08:46 We start idolizing these Pop Stars 08:48 and these Movie Stars and these Rock Stars 08:50 and you look at their lives 08:52 and their lives are just falling apart. 08:53 Human beings can't handle that... 08:55 we cannot handle that. 08:56 Yvonne: That is so true. 08:58 James: And even the angel in heaven in Revelation falls down, 09:00 you know, John falls down before the angel, 09:02 you know what I'm talking about? 09:03 Jason: Yeah, I was thinking... I was thinking about it, 09:04 it was like, "Oh no, no, no, no, no, 09:06 no, no, no... stand up... 09:07 don't worship me. " 09:10 James: "I've seen that... I saw that up in heaven... " 09:13 so... and that's what Satan is trying to get us, 09:15 you know, to stay in... 09:17 is that whole idol self-worship man-worship thing... 09:19 that abomination that makes us desolate. 09:21 We've got to keep our eyes on Jesus. 09:23 Yvonne: That is so true... 09:24 even with the Human Potential Movement, 09:27 you know, you can... and it... 09:29 it's crept into Christianity too 09:31 so, you can declare and decree and it is so... 09:34 as though you are God. 09:36 No, we are not God... God is God 09:38 and I think that is a real problem today in Christianity, 09:44 this whole Human Potential Movement that, you know, 09:48 declare and decree and it is so... and... 09:51 and it's as though God must honor that 09:55 because you've said it 09:56 and... it's... it's very subtle. 09:58 James: It's very subtle. 10:00 Yvonne: But it's still putting us in the position of God 10:03 and God doing our bidding. 10:06 No, it's like Brrrrk... it's twisted. 10:10 God is the Creator... we are His creatures 10:13 and so, I think, you know, that whole Human Potential thing 10:16 Satan is just very, very shrewd and subtle and... 10:21 and flipping things just a little bit... 10:24 just enough to make you think it could be the right thing 10:28 but it's not. 10:30 James: You know, the Bible tells us about this 10:31 in 2nd Corinthians chapter 11, it says there in verse 2 10:35 that Paul is concerned for the Corinthian believers 10:38 because he's afraid that just like Adam and Eve were deceived 10:41 by the subtlety of the serpent, that they might be deceived 10:45 when he comes and preaches another Jesus... another gospel 10:50 and another spirit. 10:51 He says, "I'm afraid you might bear with him... " 10:53 Why? Well, because it's Jesus... 10:54 well, it's because it's the gospel... 10:56 because he's talking about the Holy Spirit. 10:57 It's a religious guise 10:59 and he says in verse 15 of 2nd Corinthians 11 11:02 and Satan sends his ministers as ministers of righteousness 11:05 and no... no surprise there 11:08 because he comes as an angel of light. 11:10 Ivor, you were saying, sometimes we're looking for Antichrist 11:13 to come as a dark, wicked, pitchfork... 11:15 no, he comes as an angel of light 11:18 so, this is really significant for us... 11:20 really important for us 11:21 when we look at the Antichrist here... 11:23 the one who puts himself in the place of God... 11:25 what is he doing? He's saying... he is God 11:27 and he can forgive and he's the God on earth 11:30 and this is a religious movement 11:32 that the whole world, we're told is going to follow after. 11:34 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... James: Yeah. 11:35 Ivor: Hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 11:37 James: Okay, we see this in history 11:39 because we know that the world was basically under the control 11:42 of the medieval church during the Dark Ages... 11:45 verse 37, "Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, 11:50 nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: 11:53 but he shall magnify himself above all. " 11:55 Yvonne: Hmmm... 11:57 James: So, this church claims Apostolic succession 11:59 but it doesn't regard the God of his fathers, 12:00 you know, the Apostles and Peter... 12:03 they were God alone and not man... 12:05 and... and then it says, "Nor the desire of women... " 12:07 so, there's no... you know, a woman in the Bible... 12:10 that can apply to marriage, for example, 12:12 which God has given us as a twin institution of the Sabbath 12:15 and the... the pressure, you know, to be celibate 12:19 as a man or a woman... celibacy 12:22 or it could apply spiritually to other churches 12:25 and no, we're not... there's no other churches... 12:27 only our church... 12:28 either way, they're not regarding anyone else... 12:31 no other gods... no other religions... 12:33 none of the institutions that God has instituted 12:36 at least, I shouldn't say, "none" 12:37 but the main institutions God has instituted... 12:40 marriage and the Sabbath are all being undermined 12:42 by this System and it applies... 12:44 you can see it apply in history, it's so clear. 12:47 Ivor: James, if we... if we just look back at the verses 12:50 that we looked at in the previous program 12:53 where we talked about, you know, 12:55 the persecution of the saints during the Dark Ages. 12:59 James: Yeah. 13:00 Ivor: One of the reasons they were being persecuted 13:02 was because they identified the Papacy 13:06 as this very power spoken of in Bible prophecy. 13:09 James: Okay. Yvonne: Hmmm... 13:10 Ivor: Right, so, that's just... what we're seeing here... 13:14 this is not, you know, a private interpretation... 13:18 people died for exposing this power 13:24 as a... as a power that was sitting in the place of God. 13:28 James: Hmmm... hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 13:29 Ivor: For man, that was attempting to usurp authority 13:33 that did not belong to them. 13:35 James: And the question we might want to ask here is, 13:38 why were people willing to die? 13:39 I mean, Martin Luther was willing to die for that 13:41 and Huss and Jerome and... 13:43 why were people willing to die 13:46 just to expose this power? 13:48 Just to say, "Well, that's a bad power 13:49 and you shouldn't have anything to do with it... " 13:51 no, when you look at the lives of these men like Martin Luther, 13:54 he agonized with God. 13:56 For years, he tried to find peace with God and... 13:59 and to get his guilt removed and he struggled, 14:02 you know, he walked up the stair cases, 14:03 he... he lashed his back till he was bleeding... 14:06 he... he denied himself until he would faint from hunger 14:09 in a... in a hermit's cell... I mean, in a monk's cell... 14:12 he... he was trying to find peace with God and never could 14:17 until he discovered a Bible chained 14:19 to the pulpit in a chapel 14:21 and he began reading the pages and he said, 14:23 "Oh, if only I could have such a book... " 14:25 and as he read the pages, he discovered Christ... 14:28 he discovered righteousness by faith. 14:30 He discovered that the just shall live by faith 14:32 and it changed his life. 14:34 His conscience was captive to the Word of God. 14:37 He could do... he never wanted... 14:39 he didn't want to leave the church... 14:41 he didn't want to expose Rome, he didn't want to do any of that 14:43 but when he saw Rome contradicting the Bible... 14:45 contradicting the gospel... 14:47 undermining Christ and Him crucified... 14:49 when he saw that 14:51 and when he realized the peace that he had 14:52 and when he saw other people struggling 14:53 the way he was struggling 14:55 and he knew that he had the words and experience 14:57 to free them, 14:58 he couldn't help but expose what was wrong 15:00 and I think it's going to be the same with us. 15:02 We can't just have an intellectual understanding 15:04 of all this history and say, "Oh yeah, look, 15:06 this just means this and this means this... " 15:07 it's got to mean something in our hearts 15:09 because in the end of time, we won't stand 15:11 unless it means something to us personally... 15:12 unless we've been personally delivered by Jesus Christ, 15:15 we're not going to be able to stand up against this power 15:17 like Martin Luther did and like Jerome did and Huss did 15:20 even unto death it says in Revelation 2:10. 15:22 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 15:24 Ivor: Amen. 15:25 Yvonne: Isn't it interesting how he was so high up 15:29 and involved in the church 15:30 and he had not read the Bible for himself. 15:33 I think that's a really important point for us 15:37 that we cannot take anybody else's word for it, 15:40 we have to read it ourselves. 15:42 James: Even if they're scholars. 15:43 Yvonne: Even if they're scholars. 15:44 James: Martin Luther was a scholar 15:46 as he understood the Bible. Yvonne: Yes, yes. 15:47 James: There are a lot of Biblical Scholars today... 15:50 I... I know... I have a friend who went to Cambridge, 15:52 he, you know, got into Yale, 15:57 yeah, he did his Theological degree in both of those places 16:00 and he said... 16:01 Ivor: Hey, I have that same friend. 16:03 James: Yeah, you do... I won't mention his name 16:05 to say J. R. because those are my initials 16:09 so it sounds really cool 16:10 but he was, you know, basically saying that 16:13 most of the people in his class don't believe in God. 16:15 They're there getting a Theological degree... 16:17 they don't believe in God 16:19 I asked him, "Why are they there?" 16:20 They're there because they want that degree, 16:22 they're there because they want that pedigree, 16:23 they're there because they want to be able to be called 16:25 "Bible Scholars. " 16:26 "I've looked at the Bible... I've checked it out... 16:28 I know inside and out... I know Greek... I know Hebrew" 16:29 and... and it's true. 16:31 Yvonne: To disprove? Are they like... 16:33 James: Just to have that education... 16:35 just to have that... those letters, 16:37 just to be able to say what they say... 16:38 maybe to disprove... I don't know... 16:40 I'll... I'll give you an example, 16:41 I remember a CNN Blog in 2014, I believe it was, 16:46 I've got the reference from a "Scholar" 16:48 that was talking about the book of Revelation 16:50 and they said basically, 16:51 "Jesus is neither seen in it nor known in it. " 16:54 The plan of salvation... Yvonne: The book of Revelation? 16:56 James: Yeah, the plan of salvation is not there 16:58 and this was a Biblical Scholar, so, they've got the degree 17:01 and they're being quoted on a CNN Blog 17:03 and they said, 17:05 "The salvation... the gospel is not mentioned there. " 17:07 We opened up to Revelation chapter 1 verse 5, 17:09 "Who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood. " 17:12 Boom... there's the gospel. Yvonne: Yes. 17:14 James: It's the revelation of Jesus Christ. 17:15 They said, "It just drips with blood 17:17 and reveals a God who's out... vindictive and out to just... " 17:21 you know, and a lot of people see Revelation that way. 17:23 Why? Well, look at these scholars. 17:25 You know, they've got their degree 17:27 but they don't have this relationship with Jesus 17:29 so, they can't find Him. 17:31 You find what you're looking for... 17:32 let me tell you, I love Jesus... 17:34 when I read Revelation, I'm looking for Jesus. 17:35 Yvonne: Yes. James: I'm looking for the Lamb 17:37 and I find Him... He's there. 17:38 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 17:40 but when you don't have that relationship, 17:41 you know, the Bible says, 17:43 "Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. " 17:45 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... James: You've got to have that. 17:47 You can only be qualified by His Spirit 17:49 and then you get the education to follow it up. 17:52 I'm not trying to say that education is bad, 17:54 I think education is powerful, I think it can be really good 17:56 but without... 17:58 education in the Bible I'm talking about now... 18:00 without that spiritual connection with God, 18:02 it can be very detrimental... 18:03 very damaging to a lot of people. 18:05 Yvonne: Yes... yes. 18:06 Ivor: Yeah, let's build on that for a second 18:08 because this is exactly what happened in the Dark Ages 18:13 right, when you have "Scholars" 18:19 and "Teachers of the Word" 18:22 who are doing the things that the Church did 18:27 during the Dark Ages, 18:28 "We will burn you at the stake" right... 18:30 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 18:33 Ivor: They are in essence saying to the world, 18:36 "This is the God that we serve. " 18:38 James: Hmmm... hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 18:40 Ivor: Right. James: Yeah. 18:41 Ivor: And the reason why God's name 18:44 has been so blasphemed around the world, right, 18:49 the reason why to this day there are Atheists and people 18:54 who just totally, like, "We hate the Bible... " 18:57 you know, a lot of it goes back to 19:00 what we're reading here in Daniel 11:23 so far to 39. 19:06 James: Yeah. Ivor: Right, 19:07 when you have a Power that professes to be molded by God... 19:10 clay... 19:11 and yet it is mingled with iron... the world. 19:16 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 19:17 Ivor: It is... it is... it is not glorifying God 19:21 but instead it... it basically has the spirit of the world. 19:26 James: Hmmm... hmmm... 19:27 Ivor: What ends up happening is other people see that 19:30 and their response to it is, 19:32 "We want nothing to do with the Bible. " 19:35 James: Yes, yeah. Yvonne: Hmmm... 19:36 Ivor: We are going to... 19:38 we're going to put the Bible to death 19:39 for three and a half days, 19:42 right, we are going to reject everything about Christianity 19:45 which is... we're going to see 19:47 that that is exactly what happens in verse 40. 19:50 James: Yes. 19:51 Ivor: When we get to this "Power" called the 19:54 king of the South, 19:55 we're going to see that that's the... 19:57 and this is what Satan is after. 19:59 If he can make our relationship with God look crazy, 20:03 well, who wants a relationship with God? 20:05 James: Hmmm... hmmm... Yvonne: Hmmm... 20:07 Ivor: "If a relationship with God means 20:08 what I'm seeing in you... 20:10 what I'm seeing what happened in the Dark Ages, 20:12 then, no thank you, I don't want to serve a God like that. " 20:15 James: Yeah. Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... 20:16 James: Good point, Ivor, really good point. 20:19 We need to look at these principles 20:21 and see how they apply to us 20:22 in... in that vein... 20:24 because this is all about God's character. 20:27 It's about vindicating God and glorifying God 20:30 and there's going to be a lot of people in the end of time 20:32 Matthew 7:21 to 23 says, 20:34 "You say, Lord, Lord, haven't we prophesied in Your name 20:37 and in Your name done many wonderful things? 20:39 We fed the poor and we've taken care of the orphans... 20:41 we've done all these works... " 20:42 and in a lot of religions, there are a lot of works 20:45 but not necessarily the works that God is calling us to. 20:49 You know, Samuel rebuked Saul and basically told him 20:54 because Saul had offered a sacrifice to God 20:56 without Samuel's presence and he said, 20:58 "You know, to obey is better than sacrifice. " 21:00 So, obedience is vital when you look at this 21:02 obeying the Word of God... 21:04 you can do all these things 21:05 but if you're not obeying the Word of God, 21:06 you know, "In vain you worship Me, 21:08 teaching for doctrines the commandments of men 21:10 and your traditions. " 21:12 Okay, let's read the next two verses, 21:13 Jason, can you read these next two verses... verses 38 and 39 21:17 and we're going to wrap this up and move into verse 40. 21:20 Jason: Okay, "But in their place 21:21 he shall honor a god of fortresses; 21:24 and a god which his fathers did not know 21:27 he shall honor with gold and silver, 21:29 with precious stones and pleasant things. 21:31 Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses 21:35 with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, 21:38 and advance its glory; 21:41 and he shall cause them to rule over many, 21:44 and divide the land for gain. " 21:46 James: Do you hear all the language in those verses? 21:48 Fortresses... gold... silver... advancing 21:53 and dividing the land for gain... 21:55 it's a temporal power that this religious power is using. 22:00 It's using temporal prosperity and temporal things 22:03 to push its way forward and to gain control, 22:07 do you see that? 22:08 That's what the church did in the Dark Ages. 22:09 It was all about intrigue... 22:11 it was all about being connected with the right kings 22:14 and the right ruler... it was all about politics... 22:17 we're getting to... to our present time 22:18 and like Ivor said... 22:20 this completely turned people away from religion 22:22 until finally, it exploded out in the country of France 22:26 and we talked about this in our Revelation Series 22:28 and I really encourage Viewers 22:31 to go back to the Revelation Series 22:33 in Salvation, Symbols and Signs specifically on Revelation 11 22:36 because we're not going to have time to expound upon 22:39 this Atheistic Power that rose up 22:42 out of all of this misrepresentation of God. 22:45 It rose up and it was caused by this misrepresentation. 22:48 In other words, bad Christianity drives people away from God... 22:53 drives people away 22:54 because it misrepresents what God is really like 22:57 and so, in the time of the end, verse 40 says 22:59 this king of the South will push at him. 23:04 Now, the king of the South... 23:06 that word "South" is translated in some versions of the Bible 23:11 as Egypt... and it is defined in Isaiah 30:1 through 6 23:15 as the Nation of Egypt. 23:16 Whenever we talk about the South in the Old Testament, 23:19 it was always referring to Egypt... Egypt... Egypt... 23:21 and Egypt, according to Exodus 5 verse 2, 23:24 was a power who denied God's existence... 23:27 "Who is God that I should obey Him and let His people go? 23:29 I don't know God, neither will I let this people go. " 23:31 Jason: Hmmm... 23:33 James: And so, God is using this symbol here 23:34 to identify an Atheistic Power that would push or war 23:39 against this religious power in the time of the end... 1798 23:43 and that's exactly what happened when you look at Bible prophecy. 23:47 1798... Napoleon's in control of France or rising up in France 23:51 sends his General Berthier... 23:53 he goes down into Italy... into Rome 23:57 and he takes the Pope captive and he dies in captivity... 23:59 inflicts the deadly wound into the Papacy 24:02 and it loses its Civil Power... it loses its strength 24:04 and then we're told in Revelation 13... 24:06 he's wounded but the wound is healed 24:08 and we see that... 24:10 in one verse, we have the wounding and the healing 24:12 in prophecy in Revelation 13:3. 24:15 Ivor: And James, let's just jump back 24:16 and remember that the French Revolution 24:20 was a rejection of Christianity, right... 24:24 James: Of fallen Christianity. 24:26 Ivor: Of the incorrect... 24:28 the picture that they got of Christianity, 24:31 they were like, "No... we reject this. " 24:34 James: Yes. 24:35 Ivor: That's what the French Revolution leading up to 1798... 24:38 the Papacy being given a deadly wound 24:43 which was in essence the separation of its arms... 24:47 if you go back to Daniel 11 verse 31, 24:49 "And arms shall stand on his part... " 24:51 that was done away with, right, 24:54 when... when... when the Papal States were abolished in 1798, 24:58 they no longer had the military 25:01 that they had access to before that, right? 25:05 In order to inflict this punishment and all these things, 25:08 this came as a result of the French Revolution 25:12 in which people were basically saying, 25:15 "We are fed up with the Papal Rule... with religion" 25:21 and they totally... they burned the Bible 25:24 and again, we talked about this in our study on Revelation 11, 25:26 but we're not pulling France out of the air, like, 25:29 "How did you get France?" 25:30 No, that is the Nation... 25:31 the time of the end is the end of the 1260 years. 25:35 That is the nation that came into prominence 25:41 with this rejection of Christianity at that time. 25:46 That is the Nation... by the way, it was Clovis 25:50 James: Yes! just thinking that, come on. 25:53 Ivor: I will wait, 25:54 that was the first to give the Papacy its sword... 25:58 it's my fist here... but they gave the Papacy its sword 26:01 and basically set it up... set it up... 26:05 we'll get more to this in the next... in Daniel 12 26:09 but gave it it's ability to begin to persecute... 26:12 James: The arms... Ivor: The arms and 1200 and... 26:15 at the end of the 1260, it's that same France 26:19 that took away its sword. 26:20 "He that kills with a sword must be... 26:23 or wounds with a sword will be wounded with a sword... 26:25 killed with a sword must be killed with a sword... " 26:27 this is what's happening 26:29 as we begin to combine Revelation 13... Revelation 11 26:33 with Daniel 11... it... 26:35 God is bringing... is showing us from multiple angles 26:39 that He's dealing with the same thing here and... 26:43 and this is a verification of the truth... 26:45 of the... of the Scriptures. 26:47 James: Yes, so when you go back to verse 35, 26:49 the persecution... it says there... 26:51 "some of them shall fall... 26:53 of understanding shall fall, to try them, and purge them, 26:55 and make them white, even till the time of the end" 26:57 do you see that? 26:58 The persecution will continue even till the time of the end, 27:01 then when we get to the time of the end 27:03 and, of course, Berthier goes in and he takes the Pope captive 27:05 and that's when we see the deadly wound being inflicted... 27:08 that's when we see the persecution coming to an end... 27:11 a sudden end 27:12 and then we're going to move into this time-of-the-end period 27:15 when we see some things happening in verses 40 27:17 and onward that are actually present truth. 27:19 Yvonne: Hmmm... 27:21 Ivor: And James, it's important for us to mention as well 27:23 that this king of the South is present today. 27:27 James: Yes. Yvonne: Hmmm... 27:28 Ivor: The French Revolution is a pivotal point... 27:31 even in American history, right, 27:34 and a lot of the Atheistic tendencies 27:38 that we see in our Nation today 27:40 rise out of the French Revolution. 27:43 James: Yeah, Atheistic... Secular... Communistic... 27:46 Marxist... it's all alive right now... 27:49 it's all alive right now. 27:50 Ivor: That is... that is king of the South right there, 27:54 so, that's important to understand 27:56 as we move into Daniel 11 verse 40. 27:57 James: Absolutely, so, we've run out of time 27:59 but we're... we're on the edge of our seat... 28:01 I'm just going to take this jacket off 28:02 and be ready to go. 28:04 All: Laughter. |
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