Salvation in Symbols and Signs

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00:32 This is amazing.
00:34 This is amazing.
00:35 The only downside about this is,
00:38 oh, Pastor Ivor Myers,
00:41 but we are so glad that we can get together
00:43 and continue our study in the Book of Daniel.
00:46 We've gone through some incredible challenges
00:49 in the last few months.
00:51 We know that we left off in Daniel Chapter 7.
00:54 And our viewers are eager for us to finish this book,
00:57 Daniel 8, Daniel 9, Daniel 10,
00:59 Daniel 11, Daniel 12.
01:04 But we've had a lot of hindrances
01:07 and we're living in amazing times.
01:10 Things are happening in the world today
01:11 that are unprecedented,
01:13 and I think that perhaps we could look at it this way,
01:16 the delay in getting the rest of this book finished
01:20 is going to play in God's favor,
01:22 because the prophecies
01:25 that we're going to be talking about
01:26 are going to be even more present truth now
01:30 than they could have been a few months ago.
01:31 We have some amazing insights
01:34 that God is revealing to us
01:36 in these last chapters of Daniel.
01:38 So we're going to look at that,
01:39 we're going to pick up in Daniel Chapter 8 today.
01:42 And we're going to continue through,
01:43 we're going to finish this up,
01:44 we're going to make sure we finish this up
01:47 through Daniel Chapter 12.
01:49 And I'm glad that we're all here,
01:51 so to speak, right?
01:53 That's the good news.
01:55 And that we're going to be able to just ask God to guide us
02:00 and to look at these verses and these chapters
02:03 with the eyes of heaven, in the time in which we live.
02:06 So we're going to begin with a word of prayer.
02:08 Jason, can I ask you to pray for us
02:10 and then I'm going to jump right in to our scripture
02:13 here in Daniel Chapter 8.
02:14 All right, let's pray.
02:16 Dear Heavenly Father, we thank You so much
02:17 for the wonderful opportunity
02:19 that we have to study Your Word.
02:21 And, Lord, we just ask that You would send Your Holy Spirit
02:23 to lead and guide us into all truth.
02:25 Help us to retain what we're studying.
02:27 And please be with the viewers as well.
02:30 And help them to learn a lot from this too.
02:33 In Jesus' name we pray, amen.
02:34 Amen.
02:36 All right. Let's just start with verse 1.
02:38 Yvonne, would you be willing to just read us verse 1,
02:41 just the first verse,
02:43 no more than that, just the first verse?
02:45 Sure.
02:46 "In the third year of the reign of King Belshazzar
02:50 a vision appeared to me,
02:52 to me, Daniel,
02:54 after the one that appeared to me the first time."
02:56 Okay, so just pausing right there
02:59 so that we can kind of recalibrate.
03:02 We left off in Daniel 7.
03:04 Daniel 7 was a vision that was given to Daniel
03:07 in the first year of Belshazzar.
03:10 Okay, so Daniel 7 was given
03:12 in the first year of Belshazzar,
03:13 now we have Daniel 8 given in the third year.
03:18 Okay, so the first year and the third year
03:20 now, there's something significant about that,
03:22 that we just want to mention here,
03:24 and that is, is that this vision is given to Daniel,
03:29 both visions,
03:30 when Babylon is still a power
03:33 that is in control of the world.
03:35 Belshazzar is the grandson of Nebuchadnezzar.
03:39 But in this vision in chapter 8,
03:41 Babylon isn't mentioned.
03:43 We're gonna start with Medo-Persia
03:44 and then go to Greece and then go to Rome.
03:46 But Babylon isn't mentioned.
03:47 So we need to think about this.
03:49 God is actually speaking through Daniel
03:51 so when we read Daniel 8,
03:53 we think, oh, Daniel 8, that's after Daniel's 5,
03:55 that's after Belshazzar,
03:57 you know, had that vision of the hand
04:00 that wrote mene, mene, tekel, upharsin,
04:01 and that's after Babylon fell.
04:03 No, actually it isn't.
04:05 It's after in sequence
04:06 in the book sequence Daniel 8 is after
04:08 but the vision was actually given before,
04:12 which is really interesting
04:13 because it kind of enlightens us
04:15 when we think about Daniel coming into that feast,
04:19 and reading that writing and making that announcement.
04:21 He'd already had this vision
04:23 and this vision had already in Daniel's mind
04:26 sealed Babylon's fate.
04:29 He already knew that
04:30 Babylon wasn't part of the future.
04:31 Does that make sense? Yeah.
04:33 He already knew that.
04:34 It was really clear to him, right?
04:35 So it's really important for us to see that
04:37 sometimes when you read through Danny,
04:39 it's just kind of read through,
04:40 we don't make a connection
04:41 between the actual timing of some of these visions.
04:44 We're gonna see the same thing
04:46 when we get to Daniel Chapter 9,
04:48 no Chapter 10.
04:50 No, Chapter 9, 10, 9.
04:51 Chapter 9, Chapter 11.
04:53 Yes, same thing.
04:55 It's really important for us to make the connections
04:57 as to where they are in the context of experience.
05:02 So, that's the first point you want to look at.
05:05 Now we want to move into the second verse.
05:09 Jason, could you read that for us,
05:11 Daniel 8:2?
05:12 "I saw in the vision,
05:14 and it so happened while I was looking,
05:18 that I was in Shushan, the citadel,
05:21 which is in the province of Elam,
05:23 and I saw in the vision that I was by the River Ulai."
05:28 River Ulai, that's it. Ulai, yeah.
05:30 Keep reading for us. Okay.
05:31 "Then I lifted my eyes and saw,
05:33 and there, standing beside the river,
05:36 was a ram which had two horns,
05:38 and the two horns were high,
05:40 but one was higher than the other,
05:42 and the higher one came up last.
05:44 I saw the ram pushing westward, northward, and southward,
05:49 so that no animal could withstand him,
05:52 nor was there any
05:54 that could deliver from his hand,
05:57 but he did according to his will
05:58 and became great.
06:00 And as I was considering,
06:02 suddenly a male goat came from the west,
06:05 across the surface of the whole earth,
06:07 without touching the ground,
06:09 and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
06:13 Then he came to the ram that had two horns,
06:15 which I had seen standing beside the river,
06:18 and ran at him with furious power.
06:21 And I saw him confronting the ram,
06:23 he was moved with rage against him,
06:26 attacked the ram, and broke his two horns.
06:29 There was no power in the ram to withstand him,
06:32 but he cast him down to the ground
06:33 and trampled him,
06:35 and there was no one
06:36 that could deliver the ram from his hand.
06:39 Therefore the male goat grew very great,
06:43 but when he became strong, the large horn was broken,
06:46 and in place of it
06:48 four notable ones came up
06:49 toward the four winds of heaven.
06:51 And out of one of them came a little horn
06:54 which grew exceedingly great
06:56 toward the south, toward the east,
06:58 and toward the Glorious Land.
07:00 And it grew up to the host of heaven,
07:03 and it cast down some of the host
07:05 and some of the stars to the ground,
07:07 and trampled them.
07:08 He even exalted himself
07:10 as high as the Prince of the host,
07:12 and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away,
07:16 and the place of His sanctuary was cast down.
07:20 Because of transgression,
07:21 an army was given over to the horn
07:23 to oppose the daily sacrifices,
07:26 and he cast truth down to the ground.
07:29 He did all this and prospered.
07:31 Then I heard a holy one speaking,
07:33 and another holy one
07:35 said to that certain one who was speaking,
07:37 'How long will the vision be,
07:39 concerning the daily sacrifices
07:41 and the transgression of desolation,
07:43 the giving of both the sanctuary
07:45 and the host to be trampled underfoot?'
07:48 And he said to me,
07:50 'For two thousand three hundred days,
07:52 then the sanctuary shall be cleansed.'"
07:54 All right. Let's stop right there.
07:56 So this is basically the vision right here
07:59 that Daniel has,
08:01 the vision of Daniel 8.
08:02 What's going to follow now in verses 15,
08:04 all the way through the end of the chapter
08:07 is an understanding of the vision.
08:10 The vision is given and then a man is commanded,
08:13 an angel is commanded, the messenger is commanded
08:15 to give Daniel understanding of the vision
08:17 because it's a difficult one.
08:18 And I really love this because we need help.
08:23 And God is always willing to give us help.
08:26 Daniel was given direct help,
08:29 right after he was shown this vision,
08:31 and we can have the same help from heaven
08:34 whenever we read the Word of God.
08:36 All we have to do is pray and ask the Holy Spirit
08:37 to guide our minds,
08:39 and God will actually bring us understanding.
08:42 And so, Daniel asks for this understanding,
08:44 and immediately there's a response.
08:46 But I want us to go back now
08:48 and just take a look at this vision
08:50 and see what we can glean from it
08:51 before we go into the interpretation.
08:53 First of all, in verse 1,
08:56 "He sent it to me
08:57 or in the third year
08:58 of the reign of King Belshazzar,
09:00 a vision appeared unto me even unto me, Daniel,
09:02 after that which appeared unto me
09:03 in the first now at the first."
09:05 There's two ways you can interpret this phrase
09:07 after that,
09:08 it could be after in time, which is obvious,
09:12 because it's the third year of Belshazzar
09:14 and the other vision was the first year of Belshazzar
09:16 or it could be after in-kind.
09:18 Just like the vision that I saw earlier,
09:22 it was very much like the vision I saw earlier.
09:24 And we know this is going to be the case
09:26 because even though
09:28 the early vision was four beasts
09:30 that were different than the beast in this vision,
09:32 and the one before that
09:33 Nebuchadnezzar had was an image.
09:35 We know that
09:37 this is following the same track
09:38 of repeat and enlarge prophecy,
09:41 because we are actually told in the interpretation.
09:44 And let's just jump there for a second,
09:45 we're actually told who these animals,
09:48 these first two animals represent.
09:50 Jason, read for us, verses 21
09:55 and, or 20 and 21.
09:58 Okay.
10:00 "The ram which you saw, having the two horns,
10:02 they are the kings of Media and Persia.
10:06 And the male goat is the kingdom of Greece.
10:09 The large horn that is between its eyes
10:12 is the first king.
10:13 Okay, so going back now,
10:15 you remember in Daniel Chapter 2
10:17 we had Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.
10:20 In Daniel 7, we had Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome.
10:23 Now we have Medo-Persia and Greece.
10:27 So we're following
10:28 the same basic track of history,
10:31 Babylon is gone,
10:32 because as we mentioned earlier,
10:34 Daniel was shown the demise of Babylon,
10:36 which took place in Daniel Chapter 5.
10:39 Medo-Persia
10:40 then is the first kingdom that's mentioned,
10:41 then Greece, and then there's this fourth kingdom
10:44 that's going to follow that isn't described by name,
10:47 but it's described by characteristic.
10:49 And we're going to look at some of those characteristics.
10:51 Because basically in Daniel Chapter 8,
10:54 you have a very little time given to Medo,
10:56 kind of, to get our footing.
10:58 And then Greece,
10:59 you know, gives us more understanding
11:01 where we are.
11:02 And then the rest of the vision is all about that fourth power.
11:05 I mean, the whole thing is,
11:07 is dedicated to that fourth power
11:09 and what he does.
11:11 Something really interesting that we see here, Ivor,
11:14 and I just wanted you to comment on this a little bit.
11:16 In Daniel 7, we had an attack on the law of God.
11:21 In Daniel 8, we have an attack on the sanctuary of God.
11:26 Do you see that in these verses?
11:28 I just think it's significant
11:29 that we're seeing
11:31 a two pronged attack against God
11:33 in Daniel 7 and Daniel 8.
11:36 Yeah, and I will add this here.
11:40 You know, at the end of this chapter,
11:42 we see that Daniel doesn't understand the vision.
11:46 And that's very significant,
11:48 because, remember, in Daniel's mind,
11:54 you have this 70 year prophecy
11:58 that's about to come to completion.
12:01 Right where the children of Israel
12:04 have been in captivity
12:06 and God said, you'll be there 70 years,
12:10 and then I'm going to bring you back.
12:12 Right? Right.
12:13 And you will be restored to your city,
12:15 and there's going to be the temple.
12:17 Well, when Daniel is seeing this vision.
12:21 And remember from Daniel 2,
12:23 he sees four kingdoms,
12:25 Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome.
12:28 He knows that these kingdoms
12:29 aren't gonna rise and fall in like,
12:30 you know, five years, ten years, right?
12:33 There's no way four kingdoms are going to do that.
12:35 Here in Daniel 8,
12:37 he's seen these kingdoms of Medo-Persia,
12:41 and then Greece,
12:43 and then something about the sanctuary.
12:47 And you can imagine in his mind,
12:49 the sanctuary being cleansed, like,
12:51 so we're talking about after Greece,
12:54 we're going to be dealing with the sanctuary, like
12:56 he's thinking that
12:58 sanctuary is going to be rebuilt pretty soon.
13:00 Right. Right?
13:01 Because the 70 years will end, yeah.
13:03 Yes, 70 years are ending, right?
13:05 And so you can understand why he's confused,
13:08 because he's like, wait a minute,
13:10 Greece,
13:12 you know, this other kingdom is gonna rise,
13:13 and then this little horn that rises after that,
13:16 and what is going to...
13:19 This must be confusing to him.
13:22 So number one, this is significant,
13:25 because what we're going to see,
13:27 and I'm going to mention this here.
13:31 There is something very specific
13:33 about the prophecies of Daniel,
13:36 if you read all the other prophets
13:39 in the Old Testament,
13:40 Ezekiel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, all the Minor Prophets,
13:44 Micah, Nahum, Haggai,
13:49 you'll see something very specific
13:51 with these prophets, right?
13:53 What you're gonna see is that
13:54 God was speaking to the prophet,
13:57 to give the people a message,
14:02 going to Israel and say unto them,
14:04 say unto Israel, say unto Israel.
14:07 The Book of Daniel doesn't do that.
14:10 In fact, in the end of the Book of Daniel,
14:12 you see God telling Daniel to seal up the book,
14:16 because it is for the time of the end.
14:19 Yeah, yeah.
14:21 This is a very important distinguishing point,
14:24 because listen,
14:25 a lot of these prophecies
14:27 in the Book of Isaiah and Jeremiah,
14:29 people will take those prophecies
14:30 and apply them to things
14:32 that are to happen in the future,
14:34 when they have already been fulfilled.
14:37 They were speaking to the people of that time.
14:39 The Book of Daniel
14:41 purposely catapults us into events
14:44 that are supposed to happen in the future.
14:48 And this is one of the reasons why Daniel is so confused
14:51 because he's thinking
14:53 sanctuary should be rebuilt sometime soon here.
14:58 You know, he's thinking should be cleansed
15:00 or purified or restored
15:02 sometime soon here,
15:04 but now I'm seeing his vision about a sanctuary,
15:07 the sanctuary being restored or purified or cleansed.
15:11 After sometime, after like these empires,
15:15 he's confused about this.
15:17 Gotcha.
15:18 In fact, he's seen the sanctuary being cast down
15:22 after the Grecian power has come and gone.
15:25 He was like,
15:26 well, the sanctuary isn't even up yet.
15:28 How can it be cast down? Yeah.
15:29 How can it be cast down?
15:30 So sanctuary is cast down right now.
15:32 Right.
15:33 We're in Babylon, sanctuary is destroyed.
15:36 So he's looking at this vision,
15:38 and in his mind, he's thinking of the now.
15:41 Yeah, yep.
15:43 This is crucial to understand.
15:44 He's thinking of the now,
15:46 not realizing that
15:48 God is showing him things to come
15:51 that are beyond his time.
15:55 Right? Really important.
15:57 And this is where, yeah,
15:58 this is where Daniel 9 is going to come in
16:00 and even amplify
16:01 what's happening in Daniel Chapter 8.
16:04 But I'll jump back and share this as well.
16:06 In Daniel 2...
16:10 In Daniel 2,
16:11 we have Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome.
16:17 And this Roman Empire
16:22 divides into 10 kingdoms.
16:25 And these 10 kingdoms has a clay element
16:29 that comes up among them.
16:30 And I think we talked about this
16:32 in one of our last studies
16:33 how the clay is symbolic
16:35 of a professed people of God, right?
16:39 You are the potter, we are the clay.
16:42 Here's an element rising up within the Roman Empire
16:46 that is a religious power
16:48 claiming to have God as its maker.
16:51 And yet it is mingling with the iron.
16:55 It is mingling with the world
16:58 in a way that is not appealing to God,
17:00 that is not pleasing to God.
17:02 And that's why the stone is cut out with our hands
17:04 destroys the image,
17:05 not on the head, not on the chest and arms,
17:07 but on the feet of iron mingled with clay.
17:11 Quick object lesson,
17:14 believers should not mingle with worldiness.
17:18 Right?
17:19 So that's number one.
17:21 When we get to Daniel 7, we see the same thing.
17:25 But now we have the fourth beast,
17:27 this beast with iron teeth,
17:30 paralleling the legs of iron in Daniel 2,
17:32 and it has 10 horns.
17:35 And then a little horn,
17:37 now wants you to notice that in Daniel 2,
17:41 there's only four kingdoms,
17:44 which means the toes of iron and the clay
17:47 are really an extension of the fourth kingdom,
17:50 which is Rome.
17:52 So what God is doing is using one symbol Rome,
17:57 to apply to two different powers.
18:01 Pagan Rome,
18:03 and then this religious power that comes out of Rome.
18:06 It's all the fourth kingdom.
18:07 Right.
18:09 In Daniel 7,
18:10 you have the same thing,
18:12 this little horn
18:13 which parallels the clay of Daniel 2
18:16 that rises among the 10 toes,
18:18 we have the little horn rising among the 10 horns.
18:21 But remember this,
18:22 the little horn is on the head of the fourth beast.
18:27 Right.
18:28 So it's really one power.
18:30 It's part of the fourth.
18:31 It's part of the fourth. Yep.
18:33 Right?
18:34 So when we identify this little horn
18:36 as rising sometime after Rome,
18:38 and I'm going somewhere very important with this.
18:40 This little horn rises sometime after the fall of Rome.
18:44 Right.
18:46 When we get to Daniel 8.
18:50 For a lot of people,
18:51 this little horn appears to come out of Greece.
18:56 It does not come out of Greece.
18:59 It comes after Greece.
19:03 In fact, the Bible says
19:04 in the latter end of their kingdom,
19:06 in other words,
19:07 when the Grecian kingdom is declining,
19:10 is when this little horn is rising.
19:12 Right.
19:13 Right?
19:15 The little horn is now one symbol,
19:20 describing two powers.
19:22 We know that Rome came after Greece.
19:24 But if you look at the description
19:26 of the little horn,
19:27 it matches the description of the little horn in Daniel 7.
19:31 Why do we just go through this whole thing?
19:34 Because it's this little horn
19:36 that rises after the fall of Rome
19:40 that is desecrating the sanctuary,
19:43 which leads us to a very important conclusion.
19:47 Whatever the sanctuary is, that is being desecrated,
19:51 it cannot be the literal temple in Jerusalem
19:56 because that temple was destroyed in 70 AD.
20:03 It was destroyed in the Roman Empire.
20:07 So if the little horn rises after Rome,
20:10 whatever sanctuary it is attacking,
20:13 must be something that is not yet known
20:17 or understood to the children of Israel.
20:20 Okay, good point.
20:22 Really good point, Okay, let's get back into our texts,
20:25 just so that we can kind of summarize
20:27 a little bit of what you're saying here.
20:28 I want to get back into our text.
20:31 We're starting with verse 3,
20:32 where we have ram
20:34 that is pictured here with two horns
20:38 and the two horns were high,
20:39 but one was higher than the other,
20:41 and the higher came up last.
20:42 Do you remember this?
20:43 Now as we correlate this with the bear,
20:46 the bear was higher on one side,
20:48 the Medes and Persians were connected
20:51 and the Persians came up after the Medes
20:55 and became stronger than the Medes,
20:57 but they were one power, they're connected together.
20:59 That's been depicted here in this verse,
21:01 just like it was depicted in the verse in Daniel 7.
21:04 And what's happening in Daniel 7,
21:06 as Ivor's bringing out in Daniel 8,
21:08 as Ivor's bringing out is,
21:09 as we move through history,
21:12 there's more information, there's more details.
21:14 And that's what,
21:16 what's taking place in Daniel Chapter 8,
21:17 we're getting more details here that are going to help us
21:19 but it's really important,
21:22 as you pointed out, Ivor,
21:23 that we don't forget the past details,
21:25 because the new details add to those past details,
21:29 and give us more understanding of the prophecy.
21:31 So we know for example, as Ivor said that
21:34 the little horn is part of the Roman power,
21:37 and so that
21:39 that power that desecrates the sanctuary
21:41 that takes place after Rome falls there at camp,
21:43 therefore, it can't be
21:45 the literal sanctuary in Jerusalem,
21:46 which was destroyed in AD 70.
21:48 Okay, we also in the context of they see,
21:52 in verse 4,
21:54 the ram pushing in all these different directions.
21:57 He's pushing westward and northward
21:59 and southward, okay?
22:01 So that indicates the direction he's coming from.
22:05 Okay, he's pushing northward and westward and southward.
22:08 So what direction was left out?
22:11 East, so he's coming from the east, right?
22:13 Medo-Persians came from the east.
22:15 Now, if you go down here a little further,
22:17 as he's considering the horn, another horn comes up.
22:21 It says,
22:22 "I was considering, behold, a goat came,
22:24 excuse me, not little horn, a goat came up.
22:26 And that wasn't a horn that was a ram.
22:28 So you got a ram and a goat.
22:29 Verse 5, "The goat came from the west."
22:32 So this is a power from the west,
22:33 the other powers are power from the east,
22:35 these directions are really important.
22:37 As you go down a little further,
22:40 he destroys Medo- Persia,
22:41 this is, of course, Greece
22:44 and Alexander the Great,
22:46 the notable horn is Alexander the Great.
22:48 And then it says in verse 8,
22:50 "Therefore the he goat waxed very great:
22:52 and when he was strong, the great horn was broken."
22:54 Alexander conquered the world in a very short time,
22:57 and then he died.
22:59 And as he died,
23:00 his, his complete territory
23:04 was divided eventually into four parts
23:07 and those four parts are depicted here, it says,
23:09 "And when he was strong, the great horn is broken
23:11 and for it came up four notable ones
23:13 toward the four winds of heaven."
23:15 So you got four notable ones for the four winds of heaven,
23:19 north, south, east and west,
23:20 and out of one of them,
23:22 out of those four directions,
23:24 because remember, we've been talking about
23:25 directions all the way through here.
23:27 We've been talking about the east,
23:28 we've been talking about the south,
23:29 we've talking about the west,
23:31 we've been talking about the north,
23:32 coming from the west, coming from the east.
23:33 So keep it consistent out of one of them,
23:35 that is one of those four winds,
23:36 one of those directions,
23:38 came forth a little horn,
23:40 which waxed exceedingly great toward the south,
23:43 toward the east,
23:45 and toward the pleasant land,
23:46 which is the west.
23:48 So what direction is he coming from
23:50 if he's going toward the south, the east and the west?
23:51 North. He's coming from the north.
23:53 So this is the first time in Scripture
23:55 that we have an identification of the king of the north.
23:59 Yes.
24:01 The king of the north
24:02 is first identified in Daniel 8,
24:03 that will help us when we get to Daniel 11,
24:05 because in Daniel 11,
24:07 all this directional activity
24:09 and all of this directional identification
24:11 is going to be amplified.
24:14 And Daniel 11
24:15 is king of the north, king of the south,
24:16 king of the north, kind of the south,
24:18 king of the north, king of the south,
24:19 and people get lost in there.
24:21 But if you start right here,
24:22 you're going to identify the king of the north as Rome.
24:25 Rome is the first time
24:27 that we see the king of the north
24:29 identified in it's in Daniel 8,
24:31 because he's coming to the south,
24:32 he's going to the east,
24:34 he's going to the pleasant land,
24:35 which is west, so the only direction
24:37 he's coming from is the north.
24:38 And Alexander's kingdom was,
24:42 as it says here in verse 8,
24:46 it was spread out toward the four winds of heaven
24:52 or the four corners of the earth,
24:54 the four directions of heaven.
24:55 So now we look at Rome in its first stages
25:00 and the very first stage that we have
25:02 is this pushing toward these different directions.
25:04 Rome continues to conquer the world,
25:06 including Palestine, including God's glorious land,
25:10 the pleasant land it's called here in verse 9.
25:13 "So Rome lands in Israel, in Judah."
25:19 And then it says in verse 10,
25:21 "It waxed great even to the host of heaven.
25:25 And it cast some of the host of the stars to the ground
25:27 and stamped upon them."
25:29 Now what direction is this power going in?
25:35 Don't answer at once, Pastor Myers.
25:39 Now this power is going up, okay?
25:42 Now this power is going up, right?
25:46 At first he was horizontal, but now he's going vertical.
25:49 And it's, you know, we're thinking, well,
25:51 is against heaven really?
25:52 Yes, he's going against heaven.
25:55 So now this is where we would see a transition
25:57 from pagan Rome, to papal Rome.
26:01 This is where that transition takes place.
26:02 We've seen that transition in Daniel Chapter 7, right?
26:05 We've seen that transition a little bit in Daniel 2,
26:07 with the clay and the iron,
26:10 but now it's going to be emphasized even more,
26:12 amplified if you will.
26:14 He's going toward heaven.
26:15 He's casting some of the hosts and the stars to the ground,
26:18 he stampede upon them, that's persecution.
26:20 Verse 11,
26:21 "He's magnifying himself to the prince of the host
26:25 taking the daily away,
26:27 and casting down the place of his sanctuary."
26:30 Now, that can't be the sanctuary in Jerusalem
26:32 as we've noted,
26:33 because this is after the transition
26:35 from pagan Rome to papal Rome.
26:37 The sanctuary that he's casting down,
26:39 at least in intent and purpose is God's heavenly sanctuary.
26:44 A host is given him against the daily.
26:47 We're going to identify what that is
26:49 in our next session by reason of transgression,
26:51 and it cast the truth to the ground
26:53 and it practiced and prospered.
26:55 So this is identifying the power of papal Rome,
27:00 as it transitions from pagan Rome.
27:03 In verses 9 and 10,
27:06 you've got that transition taking place there
27:07 and then you've got a specific attack
27:09 against the heavenly sanctuary, the heavenly host,
27:12 the prince of the host and the daily whatever that is.
27:15 And all of this is taking place
27:18 in the context of Daniel Chapter 8.
27:22 These are the... These verses are identifying for us
27:25 in symbolic language,
27:26 the attack against the sanctuary in heaven,
27:28 Daniel Chapter 8.
27:29 So we're running out of time right now.
27:30 We're gonna come back, we've really got to dissect.
27:32 We jumped ahead a little bit, we're going to go back
27:34 and we're going to go through these verses
27:36 point by point, symbol by symbol
27:38 and really identify,
27:39 really dissect and identify what's taking place here.
27:42 That sound good? Sounds great.
27:44 It's great. We're all out of time.
27:45 You know, time flies.
27:47 It does, it really does.
27:48 The time just flies by. Yeah.
27:49 So anyway, we're really thankful
27:51 that you could join us.
27:52 We're looking forward to continue
27:53 in Daniel Chapter 8.
27:55 So don't go away. We will be back soon.


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