3ABN Sabbath School Panel

The Bible–The Authoritative Source of Our Theology

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00:01 Hello, welcome to 3ABN Sabbath School Panel.
00:03 We thank you for taking the time to join us.
00:05 We are starting on lesson number four,
00:07 "The Bible-the Authoritative Source of Our Theology."
00:11 And our overall study for this quarter is
00:13 "How To Interpret Scripture."
00:15 Get your Bible, get your pens, invite your family to sit down.
00:19 If you'd like a copy of the lesson,
00:20 go to absg.adventist.org
00:24 or go to your local Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:26 and join them for a tremendous Bible study.
00:29 But right now join us as we walk through
00:31 the Word of God and understand His plan
00:33 for our lives in this lesson.
01:07 Welcome to our 3ABN Sabbath School Panel.
01:10 We are so thankful that
01:11 you've taken the time to join us.
01:13 We are going to dive into an exciting study today,
01:16 The Bible-the Authoritative Source of Our Theology.
01:21 All you need is a Bible and some time to sit down
01:24 and find out what the Lord has in store for you today.
01:27 But before we go any further meet our panelists today,
01:29 to my immediate left is Pastor John Dinzey,
01:30 Head of 3ABN Latino.
01:32 Good to have you today.
01:33 It's a pleasure to be here
01:35 and it's wonderful to be able to dig into God's Word.
01:37 And my forever evangelist, Pastor Kenny Shelton, always,
01:40 I know you're always ready,
01:42 you bring that down home flavor to our panel.
01:44 Thank you for being here today. It's always a pleasure.
01:47 Thank you.
01:48 And I assume that
01:49 Jill might have a list back of my mind.
01:52 Good to have you here, Jill.
01:53 Thank you, Pastor John,
01:54 that assumption might be accurate.
01:56 Might be accurate. And my singer in Israel.
02:00 Pastor Ryan Day, good to have you here today.
02:02 And I'm blessed and so glad to be here.
02:04 Amen.
02:05 Well, why don't you begin with prayer for us?
02:06 Absolutely. Okay.
02:08 Father in heaven, Lord, God,
02:09 we just thank You so much for being able to
02:11 gather here to break bread.
02:14 Amen. Break bread with You, Lord.
02:16 And we would dare not go into the study
02:19 without asking for the leadership
02:21 and guidance of Your Holy Spirit.
02:22 And so, Father,
02:23 I pray that You will give us again,
02:25 the spiritual eyesight, the spiritual hearing,
02:28 the spiritual mind of Jesus to be able to rightly divide
02:31 Your word of truth at this time.
02:32 And Lord, as this message goes around the world,
02:34 may someone be blessed,
02:36 may someone be brought closer to Jesus
02:38 because of this study we ask in Jesus' name.
02:41 Amen.
02:42 Amen. Amen.
02:43 The Bible-the Authoritative Source of Our Theology.
02:47 You know, I cannot think of a Christian church
02:49 that does not use the Bible to conclude what they believe.
02:55 And the ironic thing about that is how can so many conflicting,
03:01 contradicting beliefs be found
03:04 in so many different denominations
03:06 and all claim to be reading the same Bible.
03:10 I mean, think about that if we had a GPS,
03:13 and we all bought it from the same company,
03:15 and we all began at the same beginning point
03:18 going to the same destination,
03:20 how could we all be going in all different directions,
03:23 claiming to have the same destination?
03:27 What we've discovered though,
03:29 is the role of Scripture plays a different role
03:31 in the minds of each person handling it
03:34 and each person looks through a window of their experiences.
03:38 We know that the Protestant Reformation
03:39 was a movement back to the Bible,
03:42 but out of the Protestant Reformation,
03:43 people came out of that
03:45 and as we studied this, Pastor Dinzey,
03:46 you seen that the churches that broke away
03:49 from the Church of Rome during the Dark Ages.
03:52 Different leaders grappled with different topics
03:55 like Martin Luther
03:56 dealt with justification by faith,
03:58 "The judge shall live by faith."
04:00 You had Calvinism, you had Zwingli, Hus, Jerome,
04:03 Wycliffe, all of these individuals
04:05 had different beliefs that
04:06 they decided to bring to the forefront.
04:08 Baptism was reestablished based on scripture.
04:12 The just shall live by faith.
04:13 Jill, it was established based on the Word of God.
04:17 The Sabbath eventually came back
04:19 in the 1800s through the Millerite Movement
04:22 by a name of a lady by the name of Rachel Oakes
04:25 who was a Seventh-day Baptist.
04:27 And what we found is that
04:29 through the plethora of beliefs,
04:32 some understandings of Scripture
04:35 have been placed in concrete
04:38 that really are not linked to Scripture.
04:42 And the role that has played so much significance in that
04:45 is the role of tradition.
04:48 Now let's begin with our text
04:49 because the Bible gives us an unmistakable blueprint
04:52 that we can follow to examine whether or not
04:55 what is being taught is from the Word of God.
04:57 So we begin in Isaiah 8:20
04:59 the memory text for this lesson.
05:02 The Bible says, "To the law and to the...
05:03 Testimony. Testimony!
05:05 If they do not speak according to this word,
05:09 it is because there is no light in them."
05:11 So there's an acid test in Isaiah,
05:14 there's an acid test in 1 John 2:3-4.
05:18 "Hereby we do know that we know Him,
05:20 if we keep His commandments.
05:21 He who said, 'I know Him,'
05:24 and does not keep His commandments,
05:26 is a liar, and the truth is not in him."
05:28 In both of these cases you find the commandments of God
05:30 and the testimony there.
05:32 But I wanna talk about tradition
05:33 for a brief moment because tradition,
05:36 while it's on the 80% side, not a good thing
05:40 when it comes to the Bible.
05:41 There are some traditions that are not bad.
05:44 But I heard a story about a person
05:45 who had a tradition in their family
05:47 and we don't need him.
05:48 I just wanna make that point clear,
05:49 but the story fits in this role.
05:51 There was a lady on a particular holiday
05:54 during the year she decided to cut off
05:56 two inches from the hand before she put it in the oven.
05:58 And her husband said why are you doing this?
06:00 She said, "Well, my mother did that
06:01 while she called her mom.
06:03 Mom, why do we do that?"
06:05 Well, grandma does that thing.
06:06 Thank the Lord three generations
06:08 and she called grandma.
06:09 "Grandma, why do we do that? Does it add to the taste?"
06:11 She said, "No, I cut off two inches
06:13 because it was just too big to fit in the pan."
06:16 No relevant reason to cut it off,
06:19 but traditions usually exist
06:21 without any explanation
06:22 as to why this tradition exists.
06:24 That's good.
06:25 I saw there at Buckingham Palace.
06:29 I saw soldiers standing at a spot
06:31 and he was guarding absolutely nothing,
06:34 but he was standing at an odd ironic spot.
06:37 And I thought why are they changing guards
06:39 and I'm looking down all I see is pavement.
06:42 Came to find out that
06:44 must have been 70 years earlier,
06:46 that there was a plant that had been planted
06:49 there by one of the royal children
06:50 and that child requested that nobody destroys that plant
06:55 so they put a guard to guard it.
06:57 Well, the plant had since long died,
06:59 but there was nothing to guard,
07:00 but tradition carried it through.
07:02 That's right.
07:03 Traditional system establishing routines in our lives.
07:06 Tradition also establishes consistent practices,
07:10 but it's important that
07:11 those practices are biblically based.
07:14 Tradition tends to grow in its requirements,
07:17 whereas truth is constant.
07:19 Let's look at some of the dangers of tradition.
07:21 Hebrews 13:8.
07:24 Tradition is a cumulative, but Jesus is fixed.
07:30 Now I say that in the sense, Hebrews 13:8,
07:33 "Jesus Christ is the same," come on together...
07:35 Yesterday.
07:37 "Yesterday, today, and forever."
07:38 Right. Amen.
07:40 Since He is the same,
07:41 what does the Bible say about truth?
07:42 It's the same yesterday, today, and forever.
07:46 Even when the phrase
07:48 new light comes to the forefront,
07:50 you may have just discovered it,
07:52 but France has always been there.
07:53 That's right.
07:54 It's not new light to those who live in France,
07:57 as in the New World,
07:59 wasn't the New World to the Indians
08:01 when Christopher Columbus got here,
08:02 it was their backyard.
08:04 So tradition is a cumulated,
08:06 meaning, tradition tends to add more requirements
08:10 over the course of time.
08:11 Read some of the Jewish traditions in the Bible.
08:14 You can walk more than a half a mile on the Sabbath,
08:17 they call it the Sabbath day's journey.
08:19 So they added another tradition to violate that tradition.
08:24 If I left food at your house on Friday, Ryan,
08:27 then I could walk more than a half a mile.
08:29 It was ridiculous.
08:31 That was a tradition
08:32 that was not based on Scripture at all.
08:34 And many Christians today don't adhere to certain things
08:37 in Scripture that are a command of God,
08:40 like remember the Sabbath to keep it holy
08:42 because they have embraced tradition,
08:44 which is not supported by Scripture.
08:46 The other one, let's go to Mark 7:2-3 tradition views,
08:51 non compliance as disrespect, I want you to get that.
08:55 Tradition often views non compliance as disrespect.
08:59 So people might say why don't you keep this?
09:03 Look at Mark 7:2-3. Jill, do you have that?
09:06 I do. Just read that for us.
09:08 Mark 7:2-3.
09:10 "Now when they saw
09:11 some of His disciples eat bread with defiled,
09:14 that is, with unwashed hands, they found fault.
09:17 For the Pharisees and all the Jews
09:19 do not eat unless they wash their hands
09:21 in a special way,
09:22 holding the tradition of the elders."
09:24 Notice what happened
09:25 non-compliance was seen as disrespect,
09:27 they found fault.
09:29 In a lot of traditions that people hold special
09:31 that are not scripturally required,
09:33 they find fault when you don't adhere to it.
09:36 It's embarrassing to them or it's disrespectful.
09:39 That's why it says holding the tradition of the elders.
09:42 And there're those of you watching that might think that
09:45 the Sabbath is a tradition.
09:47 It's not a tradition. It's a scriptural requirement.
09:50 It's the fourth commandment.
09:52 It's not a commandment taken out of the 10
09:55 and set aside for any particular denomination
09:58 like all the other 9 commandments.
10:00 It's a requirement by Christ for those who follow Him.
10:04 The other thing, let's go to Mark 7:7-9.
10:07 Doctrine based on tradition is a hindrance to true worship.
10:12 Ryan, do you have verse 7-9? Yes, absolutely.
10:15 It says, "And in vain they worship Me,
10:16 teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.
10:20 For laying aside the commandment of God,
10:21 you hold the tradition of men,
10:23 the washing of pitchers of cups,
10:25 and many other such things you do.
10:27 And He said to them,
10:29 'All too well you reject the commandment of God,
10:31 that you may keep your tradition.'"
10:33 And that's happening in the Christian world today,
10:35 the commandments of God is seen as,
10:37 look at the excuses, tradition makes people say
10:40 it was nailed to the cross.
10:41 Well, if it was nailed to cross,
10:42 if the commandments of God were nailed to the cross
10:44 based on traditional views,
10:46 then all the churches have no reason to exist
10:48 because the commandments
10:49 is the standard of righteousness.
10:52 It is in fact the blueprint of our relationship
10:54 between God and our fellow man.
10:57 If the commandments are done away with,
10:59 then the church has no reason to exist.
11:01 You cannot call people to repentance
11:03 because there's no longer any sin.
11:05 So don't allow tradition to make you believe that
11:07 somehow what you don't like
11:09 in the commandments now causes you to think
11:12 that it is done away with.
11:14 The third thing about tradition is or four thing.
11:17 Tradition is more important. Truth is more important.
11:21 And I wanna say this correctly, more important than admiration.
11:25 Yes.
11:26 Let's look at Matthew 15:2,
11:29 tradition is more important than admiration
11:32 because a lot of people think that well.
11:34 Let's just read Matthew 15:2, it says, "Why do Your disciples
11:39 transgress the tradition of the elders?
11:43 For they do not wash their hands
11:44 when they eat bread."
11:46 Now we read that in a different gospel,
11:49 but the reason I read it again is because admiration,
11:53 they say we would admire your disciples
11:55 more if they would follow the tradition of the elders,
11:58 but truth is more important than admiration.
12:01 Simply put another way.
12:02 Some people might say, "Well, Pastor Kenny,
12:04 I really would like you if you honor our traditions."
12:06 Well, I would forego admiration for being in harmony with God.
12:10 Amen. Right. That's a very important.
12:13 So don't do things to be in harmony with people
12:15 and be out of harmony with God.
12:17 That's right.
12:18 Tradition should never push you out of harmony with God.
12:21 Also tradition that harmonizes with truth is not necessary,
12:26 but admissible.
12:28 Now that's a powerful one.
12:29 Tradition that harmonizes with truth is not necessary,
12:33 but admissible.
12:35 Let's go to 1 Corinthians 11:2 an example here.
12:38 I'm not gonna go all the way through it.
12:39 And I can see by the clock,
12:40 I won't get through all of mine,
12:42 but I'll save it for another time.
12:44 There are certain traditions
12:46 that are not bad if you keep them,
12:48 but they're not necessary.
12:49 1 Corinthians 11:2, it says, "Now I praise you, brethren,
12:55 that you remember me in all things
12:56 and keep the traditions just as I deliver them to you."
13:01 And in verse 16.
13:02 And I'll give you the middle verses.
13:04 Verse 16 says,
13:05 "But if anyone seems to be contentious,
13:07 we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God."
13:11 The topic here was whether or not
13:15 a woman should cover her head.
13:18 And there are some people, I had some people,
13:20 sadly enough in our own church, not our church physically here,
13:23 but in our own denomination saying,
13:25 "Why don't you women cover their hair?"
13:28 And I said, they said, 1 Corinthians 11:2,
13:30 there's a joke in our family.
13:32 We say we had a guy that said,
13:33 "You mean to tell me you're not gonna do
13:35 what the Bible says."
13:36 And I said, "Read the whole story
13:37 and don't forget verse 16."
13:39 Because it says,
13:40 "If any of you seem to be contentious,
13:42 we have no such custom, nor do the churches of God."
13:45 The push was women need to cover their head.
13:48 And the Apostle Paul says,
13:50 "That's why God gave them hair."
13:52 That's right.
13:54 First and secondly, that's why God gave them
13:56 a husband for covering, but that,
13:59 so if you wanna cover your head,
14:01 it's not against truth,
14:03 but don't make it a requirement
14:06 that is not a necessary command of God.
14:08 On that note,
14:10 I'm gonna give it to Pastor Dinzey.
14:11 I have some more, but I'll cover later on.
14:13 Well, moving to Monday's part we go to Experience.
14:17 And what does experience have to do as far as
14:20 in our theology and interpreting scripture?
14:22 Let's go to our first question in the lesson,
14:25 which is "How do we experience the goodness,
14:28 forbearance, forgiveness, and kindness and love of God?"
14:32 The wonderful thing is that God is working behind the scenes,
14:35 working in our hearts, working in our minds to lead us
14:39 to a personal experience with Him.
14:42 So for this, we turned to Romans Chapter 2.
14:45 And we're gonna go to verse 4.
14:48 In Romans 2:4, if someone has found
14:52 that would you kindly read that for us, Romans 2:4?
14:56 "Or do you despise the riches of His goodness,
14:58 forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that
15:01 the goodness of God leads you to repentance?
15:03 Amen.
15:04 So we have here this scripture with a wonderful question.
15:08 And this tells us that the goodness of God
15:11 leads us to repentance.
15:13 We have to go from being spectators
15:16 and having head knowledge to actually entering
15:20 into the experience that the Bible invites us into.
15:23 You know, I remember that we had a Dr. Meshach Samuel.
15:27 Pastor Lomacang can remember Samuel.
15:29 I think some, most of you. Oh, yeah.
15:31 He said something that really impacted me
15:34 because in India they have over 50 million gods
15:38 that are not really gods because there are trees
15:41 that are gods and different things,
15:43 but there's one Creator God,
15:44 and he said that in his country,
15:47 there's no such thing as these the people
15:50 having a relationship with the God
15:54 because it's something they fear,
15:56 something they respect and worship
15:58 but no personal experience and relationship.
16:01 God invites us
16:03 into a personal relationship with Him
16:05 and embracing the message of hope
16:08 that He gives to us.
16:09 So I like to now go to Titus 3:4-5.
16:15 Notice these wonderful words,
16:17 "But when the kindness and love of God our Savior
16:20 toward man appeared,
16:22 not by works of righteousness which we have done,
16:25 but according to His mercy He saved us,
16:27 through the washing of regeneration
16:29 and renewing of the Holy Spirit."
16:31 Coming into the knowledge of these things
16:34 should draw us to the Lord,
16:36 so that we can get the full,
16:41 wonderful blessing of knowing a God that loves
16:44 because the Bible says God is love.
16:46 But if you just stay there and say, "Oh, that's great.
16:50 That's good to know."
16:52 But if you don't experience the love of God,
16:54 then you are just a spectator.
16:58 This is why as the lesson brings out very well,
17:03 that we have to move from an abstract
17:07 intellectual knowledge to moving
17:10 into an actual experience with God.
17:12 And so one of my favorite passages
17:15 in the Bible is Psalms 34:8.
17:18 Amen. Oh, yeah.
17:19 Psalm 34:8, and I see that
17:21 the memory has already said, I know that.
17:23 That's right.
17:25 The Bible says, "Oh, taste
17:26 and see that the Lord is," what?
17:28 Good. "Good."
17:30 So this is an invitation from God
17:32 to just don't just stand there,
17:34 taste and see that the Lord is good.
17:38 Enter into the experience
17:40 of tasting and seeing, you know,
17:42 when you taste something, you go from merely admiring
17:45 how good it looks, and merely admiring
17:48 how good it smells, you know, something that you...
17:52 Like, when my wife is cooking something that
17:54 the aroma just hits, you know, I wanna taste that,
17:58 but if I just stay there I never enjoy it.
18:01 And so likewise God invites us
18:03 to not only read the Scriptures,
18:05 study the Scriptures,
18:07 but enter into the actual experience of loving God
18:11 and loving our neighbor as ourselves.
18:13 Now the verse concludes with these words,
18:17 "Blessed is the man whose trust in Him!"
18:20 So besides just having the, you know,
18:24 like the Bible says that the devils believe and tremble,
18:30 so it is not enough to just believe,
18:32 but they believe and tremble
18:33 because but their belief is not a belief
18:36 that brings them into a saving experience.
18:39 They've rejected God.
18:40 So besides believing, we have to trust God
18:45 and that when you enter into that experience,
18:48 you're entering into an experience
18:49 a saving experience with God.
18:52 Now experience, of course, leads us to trust God,
18:57 and to know God is to really love God.
19:00 And this is why Isaiah 26:3-4
19:03 another very known, well-known scripture.
19:06 In Isaiah 26:3-4.
19:09 And I like to ask our, Pastor Ryan,
19:11 if you find that there for us and read.
19:14 Isaiah 26:3-4 says,
19:17 "You will keep him in perfect peace,
19:19 whose mind is stayed on You, because he trusts in You.
19:23 Trust in the Lord forever, for in Yah, the Lord,
19:27 is everlasting strength."
19:29 Amen, amen.
19:30 Now there is another scripture that helps us understand that
19:34 we have to enter into the experience.
19:37 Not only do you see the Bible talking about peace,
19:41 Jesus says, peace I give to you,
19:44 my peace, give I unto you.
19:46 Now if Jesus is holding out this opportunity for peace.
19:49 And you say thank you, thank you,
19:51 but you don't embrace it.
19:53 You never experience that
19:56 wonderful peace that passes all understanding.
19:59 And here again, Isaiah 26 it says,
20:04 "You will keep him in perfect peace,
20:05 whose mind is," what?
20:06 "Stayed on You."
20:08 That's an experience that you enter into.
20:10 And that brings you the blessing
20:13 and trust in the Lord forever.
20:15 And in Him you have everlasting strength.
20:17 Amen. That's right.
20:18 Enter into the experience receive the blessing,
20:21 the joy, the peace, that God wants to give to you.
20:25 Now when we are talking about the scriptures,
20:29 I like to bring to you a book written by Ellen G. White
20:33 called Acts of the Apostles, page 388.
20:37 Notice these words, "Paul pleaded
20:39 with those who had once known
20:41 in their lives the power of God,
20:43 to return to their first love of gospel truth.
20:46 With unanswerable arguments he said before them
20:49 their privilege of becoming free men
20:52 and women in Christ,
20:54 through whose atoning grace all who make full surrender,"
20:59 notice, the word full surrender,
21:00 "are clothed with the robe of His righteousness.
21:03 He took the position that every soul
21:07 who would be saved must have a genuine,
21:11 personal experience in the things of God."
21:15 Every individual has to have
21:17 a genuine personal experience with God.
21:22 Some people stay at the head knowledge,
21:24 but the people stay at the...
21:26 Oh, that's good to know. But they never enter.
21:28 You know, there are millions of people that say,
21:33 "Oh, yes, I believe there's a God."
21:34 But that's it.
21:36 They believe there's a God,
21:37 but they do not take the step of knowing God.
21:40 And it's a sad, sad thing to know that
21:44 salvation is available full and free through Jesus Christ,
21:48 but you never accept it,
21:50 you never enjoy it in this world
21:55 and the world to come.
21:56 That's why when you look at the Bible,
21:58 you see a picture, it's a brief picture
22:01 but a very sorrowful picture
22:03 because the Bible says that
22:05 there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
22:08 These people that rejected the grace of God,
22:11 rejected the experience of salvation,
22:13 reject their salvation through Jesus Christ.
22:16 Now in the last moments that remain,
22:20 I like to mention something.
22:22 As far as interpreting Scripture,
22:25 we have to,
22:26 as we have said before in these programs,
22:28 we have to study to show ourselves
22:30 approved unto God,
22:32 a workman that needs not to be ashamed,
22:36 rightly dividing the word of truth.
22:40 Because the Bible also gives us a warning that
22:44 there will be deceivers that will come,
22:47 twisting the scriptures,
22:49 and every wind of doctrine is blowing,
22:51 that is not founded on the scriptures.
22:54 That's why we have to study to show ourselves approved
22:59 and some people have entered into a wrong experience.
23:02 I remember a young man that followed a group.
23:05 There was a guy that claimed
23:07 to be Jesus Christ in the flesh,
23:09 you may remember this man.
23:10 He claimed, I heard him in the news, I cannot die.
23:15 Well, he died about three years ago.
23:17 But this man told his followers
23:20 that sin does not exist.
23:25 That's not scriptural.
23:26 But hundreds of people followed him
23:30 and entered into a horrible experience
23:33 in which they thought, I can do anything,
23:36 I have freedom to do anything,
23:39 but forgetting that the Bible is balanced and true,
23:43 the Bible says, "For the wages of sin is death,
23:48 but the gift of God is eternal life."
23:50 This scripture helps us to understand that`
23:52 these people were completely wrong
23:54 and other scriptures, of course.
23:56 So as far as our experience is concerned,
23:58 we have to weigh it in the balance of Scripture
24:03 and study to show ourselves approved up to God
24:06 rightly dividing the word of truth.
24:09 Amen. Thank you, Johnny.
24:10 That was a wonderful. Yes.
24:12 You know, when we think about experience,
24:15 experience can pull us to God or may lead us to God
24:18 or propel us away from God.
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25:01 we now transition from Experience to Culture.
25:05 Pastor Kenny. I do.
25:06 This is on Tuesday's lesson Culture.
25:08 That's right.
25:09 And that, to me it's very interesting subject
25:11 when you talk about the culture
25:13 because everybody has a culture.
25:15 That's right.
25:16 You know, some part of it,
25:17 you know, it has an influence on our life.
25:20 Wherever we come from some time
25:22 we come across the other side of the tracks,
25:23 and some were born here, some, you know,
25:26 but there's a culture there.
25:27 And sometimes culture might possibly get in the way
25:30 of our belief in the Word of God
25:32 if we're not careful.
25:34 So hopefully in the lesson
25:35 we see a little bit of balance on this,
25:36 give a definition of culture.
25:38 This is from the dictionary, so I read it,
25:40 and then I had to read it again.
25:42 Then I read it again and I thought I'd put
25:43 a little something simple down there,
25:45 if that's all right with you.
25:46 The definition of culture
25:47 from the dictionary says the arts
25:49 and other manifestations of human
25:51 intellectual achievement regarded collectively.
25:56 So I didn't get a whole lot out there.
25:59 So I thought of just go ahead and do it little simple this,
26:02 what is this, is that okay?
26:04 Yeah.
26:05 Now simply put culture is a way
26:07 there's a word for simply the way of life.
26:11 The way of life or for groups of people
26:14 meaning simply the way they do things.
26:17 People do things, different ways
26:19 in different places of the world,
26:21 they eat different, they talk different,
26:22 they believe different
26:23 and you mentioned a lot of gods and different things here.
26:25 So hopefully we can put it together in the culture
26:27 here that it doesn't get in our way
26:30 of what the Bible teaches as truth.
26:32 Now included in that culture
26:34 could be knowledge,
26:36 included in that could be a belief,
26:38 it could be a behavior, it could be an outlook,
26:41 it could be an attitude, it could be values,
26:44 it could be moral.
26:46 So a lot of this is included and customs.
26:49 We are all influenced and shaped.
26:51 I know I have been shaped by certain,
26:54 you know, things like culture,
26:56 I've been shaped or just things
26:57 that are there that you grew up
26:58 with that you automatically believe,
27:00 this is it and you put into experience.
27:02 We live in a cultural transmission world.
27:06 And what I mean by that?
27:07 Well, we learn a behavior
27:10 by observing someone else.
27:15 Does that ever happen to anyone?
27:16 Absolutely, I've learned a lot of things
27:18 by watching someone else.
27:20 And then we have to decide whether it's the thing
27:21 we wanna incorporate in our life or not.
27:24 And so where did they learn their behavior?
27:27 By watching someone else. And how did that go?
27:30 They watch somebody else.
27:31 And so it goes on and on and on.
27:33 So we learn that way.
27:34 It covers all ages, it can be young,
27:38 it can be old, it doesn't matter.
27:39 And for instance, I've got a story,
27:42 it's kind of interesting, a child,
27:44 that he sees another child getting his way
27:46 when he throws a fit.
27:48 Right quick, they pick up on that,
27:51 you know, I have had a wonderful step,
27:53 stepdad Earl.
27:55 And I didn't call him stepdad I call him my dad.
27:59 You know, he was such a good person.
28:01 And I often told him,
28:02 we will be doing these things.
28:03 Well, parents, grandparents, stepparents are still alive,
28:07 you know, Torre Morris that I loved him,
28:09 and that I appreciated him.
28:10 And I said, you know, if I could choose
28:13 some man in the world to take care of my mother
28:16 after my dad passed away, it would be you.
28:19 Now that's pretty good as far as my thinking.
28:21 So he was that kind of man, but anyway, he had two sons.
28:25 And we talked about the influence and culture.
28:27 It was different many years ago.
28:29 So just to kind of hang on to your hats
28:31 and don't get excited
28:32 about some of these things 'cause we said,
28:33 "We don't do that nowadays."
28:35 But he took his youngest son into the store.
28:38 And the son said, "I want this toy."
28:41 I've got to have this toy.
28:42 And dad said,
28:44 "No, you can't have that toy right now.
28:45 We don't have time. Let's go." He said, "No, I want that toy."
28:48 He said, "No, you can't have that toy."
28:50 Well, pretty soon.
28:51 The boy just lays down on the concrete floor.
28:53 All right.
28:55 And he looks at his dad,
28:57 all the people start to get around.
28:59 And then he goes banging his head on the concrete.
29:04 He started, and dad looked him and said,
29:06 "He's never done this before.
29:08 Why is he doing this?"
29:09 You know, so we got down real quick
29:11 and said, "Son get off of the floor."
29:12 I want that toy.
29:14 He's about saying, I want that toy.
29:16 Dad thought, you know what,
29:17 evidently the banging of the head
29:18 is not doing any good.
29:20 So I'm gonna help him.
29:21 So he got a hold of his neck and he went boom, boom.
29:27 And all of a sudden the boy thought
29:29 this is not quite what I had in mind.
29:31 So he decided to change his mind
29:33 and get up and go.
29:34 So dad wanted to get out of it gathered a group,
29:38 but right now just as soon as that happened,
29:40 there would be phones, dialing 911, and family server,
29:44 you know, all kinds of stuff going on,
29:45 way back then it didn't.
29:47 You know, a lot of them probably say good
29:49 give it to him, you know, he took him outside.
29:52 I guess the whole point took him outside.
29:53 He said, "Son, Ted," was his name,
29:55 "Ted, why in the world did you do that?
29:58 You've never done that before."
30:00 He said, "Dad because
30:01 I saw the boy next door over here he wanted the toy.
30:04 They said no.
30:06 And he began to bang his head on the floor
30:07 and he got the toy."
30:09 So we see that they learn by what?
30:12 What they see and thought he was going to get.
30:14 All he got was a bigger knot on his head.
30:17 And he never did do that again.
30:20 So we know, we did,
30:21 throwing a fit sometime it depends.
30:23 You know, the outcome depends upon how the parent handles it.
30:26 And we're gonna handle it by the Word of God
30:28 here in the time that we have left.
30:29 God warned ancient Israel.
30:32 He warned them up against, you know,
30:33 about mingling with other nations.
30:35 Why?
30:36 Because they will be influenced.
30:38 God did not want them to pick up on things
30:39 and have them in their culture
30:41 to bring it into God's special seed, His people.
30:45 So He warned them.
30:46 And I wonder how many of us
30:47 as I read the one passage of scripture
30:49 in Ezra 9:1-2, I thought was so interesting,
30:53 and I'm just paraphrasing here because of the time.
30:56 This says, "The people of Israel
30:57 are doing abominations.
30:59 The Holy seed have mingled
31:01 with other people in other lands."
31:03 So we see that there and notice,
31:05 what the Prophet Ezra did?
31:08 I thought it was very, very interesting.
31:10 It tore him up.
31:14 You know, as a pastor
31:16 sometime do we get torn up elders of the church,
31:17 leaders of the church get torn up
31:19 when our people are going in the wrong direction.
31:22 This tore him up so much, it said he rent his clothes.
31:26 It said he pulled some of his hair out.
31:29 He pulled some of his beard out.
31:31 And some have said, "Oh, man I'm not gonna go
31:33 through that I hate that the Joe is doing this."
31:35 But we don't maybe get so connected,
31:37 but this tore him up.
31:38 Not so much of what but because God said
31:41 don't do that these things are abomination.
31:44 When God says come apart
31:45 and be separate touch not the unclean.
31:48 That's exactly what's that 2 Corinthians 6:17
31:51 is that's exactly what God means why?
31:54 He wants to protect us. That's right. That's right.
31:56 He doesn't want us to get in trouble,
31:57 pick up any of these bad habits or sins from other nations.
32:01 He doesn't want us to get old knot on our head.
32:05 He doesn't want that to happen.
32:06 But there has to be a good balance in Scripture
32:08 because you can't just leave everything out there.
32:12 The Bible says that we are in the world
32:14 but not to be of the world there in John 17:16.
32:19 And so we have a place in this world
32:21 and we have an influence in this world.
32:23 We have a culture,
32:24 all of us do come from different places.
32:26 We hear about New York, you know, different things.
32:29 And it's not kind of coming
32:30 from a cornfield in Southern Illinois.
32:32 There's a difference in culture,
32:34 but yet we need to have
32:35 the Bible as the basic and the rule,
32:37 the influence that transcends all culture,
32:42 all other tradition that you're talking about here
32:45 and traditions, the Bible and the Bible only.
32:47 Why?
32:48 Because the Bible is the only book
32:50 that can transform your life.
32:52 It can change your life. It can make the ugly pretty.
32:56 That's right. Did you get it?
32:57 Right. It can make the ugly pretty.
32:59 It can take the things that Paul talked about things
33:02 he once loved that we now hate.
33:04 It can change you just right around in a circle for sure.
33:07 That's why the question is asked there
33:09 in 1 John 2:15-17.
33:11 We can't read that right now,
33:13 but it's talking about that we're not to love what?
33:15 The world.
33:16 Of the world, love the world
33:18 or things that are in the world.
33:19 John just simply says,
33:21 "Love not stop loving, do not, you know,
33:23 continue to love the world, the things in the world
33:27 or even the people of the world."
33:28 It's very difficult sometimes for us when people are involved
33:32 and yet they're say it nicely, they're worldly,
33:35 they just haven't accepted Jesus,
33:37 but, you know what, we hang around
33:38 with those kind of folks sometime we'll,
33:40 you know, their culture will come back on us
33:42 and be able to change our thoughts and our opinion,
33:44 rather than staying in the Word of God.
33:47 So we realized here this good, we must be aware
33:50 and resist these things the enemy puts on us in
33:54 I think it's James 4:7
33:57 says submit yourself unto God, right, and do what?
34:00 Resist. That means fight.
34:02 That means we have to be willing to fight to the death
34:05 as it were like Jesus did, that we'd rather in our life,
34:08 we'd rather die than commit annoying sin.
34:11 That's pretty heavy duty. That's right.
34:13 But God wants us to come to that point.
34:16 It's not to be influenced by the world.
34:17 So we resist the enemy.
34:19 Quickly here in just less than a minute.
34:21 There's about seven things we can look at real quick,
34:23 we submit to God, we resist the devil,
34:25 the Bible said we draw a nigh to God,
34:27 we clean hands, right?
34:29 Purify hearts, humble ourself, and then one thing down
34:32 there in verse 10 there of James 4:7-10.
34:35 It says, "Don't speak evil, about one another."
34:38 You know, probably all of us could learn that lesson
34:41 by the grace of God not to speak evil.
34:44 Man, I always said, if I can't say something good,
34:45 you know, you've heard that input.
34:47 Don't say if you can't say something good,
34:49 don't say anything to the person.
34:51 You know, because that's the following scripture.
34:53 And then James 4:10 simply says,
34:55 "Then if you do these things, then He will lift you up."
34:59 And by the grace of God I wanna be lifted up.
35:00 I wanna be lifted up in higher plane.
35:02 I don't wanna be influenced by culture.
35:04 I don't wanna be influenced by the world,
35:05 even though culture is good in some things, but what?
35:08 We wanna be influenced by the Word of God.
35:10 Amen.
35:11 Thank you so much, Pastor Kenny.
35:12 Each one of you as I think about this lesson,
35:15 tradition is not all bad,
35:17 but if tradition supersedes the Word of God,
35:20 there's a problem.
35:21 Experience is good, but if experience supersedes
35:24 the Word of God, there's an issue.
35:26 Culture is not all bad,
35:28 but if culture supersedes the Word of God,
35:30 there's an issue.
35:31 So on Wednesday, we look at Reason.
35:34 Reason is not bad,
35:36 but if it supersedes the Word of God,
35:38 there is a problem.
35:40 Yes.
35:41 We're looking at four aspects here.
35:43 I'll tell you that upfront so, you know, where we're going.
35:46 We're gonna look at empiricism, irrationalism, rationalism,
35:51 and then biblical faith.
35:54 The first three might all have some elements
35:57 of truth mixed with error.
35:59 We get to the end biblical faith
36:00 that is 100% solid.
36:02 So let's look at that empiricism.
36:04 What is that?
36:05 True Christians must reject empiricism.
36:09 Empiricism is a theory that all knowledge is derived
36:13 from experience or from your senses.
36:17 It's a philosophical belief
36:19 that states your knowledge of the world
36:20 is based on your experiences,
36:23 based on your sensory experiences.
36:27 This is where what Pastor Johnny talked about,
36:29 you could get the danger of having experience
36:32 when it's not in line with a Word of God.
36:35 Of course, we know experience
36:36 is important as Pastor Johnny brought out so well,
36:39 taste and see that the Lord is good.
36:41 Psalm 34:8, we are called to experience God.
36:45 1 John 1:1-3.
36:47 This is some of my favorite scriptures,
36:50 John the Apostle writing,
36:52 "That which was from the beginning,
36:53 which we have heard,
36:55 which we have seen with our eyes,
36:57 which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled,
37:00 concerning the Word of life."
37:02 We jumped to verse 3.
37:04 "That which we have seen and heard we declare to you,
37:07 that you also may have fellowship with us,
37:10 and truly our fellowship is with the Father
37:12 and with His Son Jesus Christ."
37:15 John saying what we have experienced
37:17 walking and talking with Jesus,
37:20 we are sharing that with you.
37:22 So there's elements of truth and experience
37:24 because we want an experience.
37:26 God calls us to experience Him,
37:29 but there's also a danger of empiricism.
37:33 I see that in 2 Peter 1.
37:34 2 Peter 1:16-19. Verses 16 and 19.
37:39 Verse 16, says,
37:40 "We did not follow cunningly devised fables
37:43 when we made known to you the power
37:44 and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
37:47 but were eyewitnesses of His majesty."
37:49 So Peter again is saying, we experienced
37:52 and were telling you just like John did,
37:54 were telling you what we experienced.
37:57 But then verse 19, Peter goes on to say,
37:59 "We have the prophetic word confirmed."
38:01 We have a more sure word of prophecy.
38:05 We have the prophetic word more fully confirmed meaning
38:08 that the Word of God is to be trusted
38:11 even above our experience.
38:13 Yes. That's empiricism.
38:16 Next, let's look at irrationalism.
38:19 The true Christian must reject irrationalism.
38:24 Irrationalism is a system of belief
38:26 or action that disregards
38:28 or contradicts rational principles.
38:31 Irrational would be something that's not logical,
38:34 something that's not reasonable.
38:36 Now Mark Twain said,
38:37 "Faith was believing what you know ain't so."
38:41 Some people say,
38:45 "Faith takes over where reason leaves off."
38:49 Some people say,
38:50 "Well, Christianity just can't be proven."
38:53 There might be one element
38:55 of truth in this in irrationalism
38:59 when God asks us to do something
39:01 that maybe seems contradictory,
39:03 Pastor Ryan, to rational thought.
39:06 That would be maybe when God called Abraham
39:08 to sacrifice his son, Isaac.
39:10 Now that would be considered irrational,
39:12 would it not?
39:13 You would say, well, that goes against God,
39:15 you promised my son, right?
39:17 And there's supposed to be a great nation coming from him.
39:20 So that might appear irrational when God asked that.
39:25 What are the dangers of irrationalism?
39:28 Faith involves reason.
39:29 And we know that when we get to biblical faith,
39:32 we will see that.
39:33 In fact, the word for faith in Greek is pa-stis.
39:36 It's used over 240 times in the New Testament,
39:41 and it literally means to be persuaded.
39:45 Faith involves that reason.
39:47 Isaiah 1:18, Pastor Kenny, God says,
39:50 "'Come now and let us reason together,'
39:53 says the Lord.
39:55 Though your sins are like scarlet,
39:56 they shall be white as snow."
39:58 1 Peter 3:15.
40:00 Peter tells us,
40:02 "Sanctify the Lord God in your hearts,
40:04 and always be ready to give a defense to everyone
40:07 who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you,
40:10 with meekness and fear."
40:11 So reason is important to our faith.
40:15 The next danger is rationalism.
40:17 Now we swing from irrationalism,
40:19 where there's no logic to the opposite end
40:22 of the spectrum.
40:23 True Christians must reject rationalism.
40:26 The definition of rationalism would be a belief or a theory,
40:30 that opinions and actions should be based on reason
40:33 and knowledge rather than religious belief
40:37 or emotional experience.
40:41 It's the practice of treating reason as the ultimate
40:45 authority in religion.
40:48 Now clearly we already talked about that
40:51 we are to reason and God calls us to do that,
40:53 we are to study and what the Word of God
40:56 said the Word of God, the faith in the Word of God.
41:00 There is reason behind that, but there's also a danger.
41:05 If we use our minds and senses to begin to judge God's Word.
41:10 Eve did that in the Garden of Eden,
41:13 that first temptations, Genesis 3:6.
41:17 Bible says, "When the woman saw that
41:19 the tree was good for food,
41:20 that it was pleasant to the eyes,
41:22 and a tree desirable to make one wise,
41:24 she took of the fruit and ate.
41:27 She also gave to her husband with her, and she ate."
41:30 She decided that her mind,
41:32 her reason would be above what the Word of God said.
41:35 And God said,
41:36 "Don't eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil."
41:40 And she decided her mind, her intellect,
41:42 her reason would be even above
41:45 what the Word of God said.
41:48 2 Corinthians Paul tells us. 2 Corinthians 10:5-6.
41:53 This is when we can use arguments
41:55 and false reasoning to judge God's Word.
41:58 "Casting down imaginations." King James says.
42:02 New King James says, "Casting down arguments
42:04 and every high thing that exalts itself
42:07 against the knowledge of God,
42:09 and bringing into captivity
42:11 every thought to the obedience of Christ."
42:15 We are called to cast down those arguments
42:18 that exalt themselves against the Word of God.
42:21 So true Christians must exercise biblical faith.
42:25 All right.
42:26 Hebrews 11:1,
42:28 "Faith is the substance of things hoped for,
42:31 the evidence of things not seen."
42:34 Biblical faith is not blind faith.
42:36 Biblical faith is the substance of things hoped for.
42:39 The word hoped for means confident expectation.
42:44 We believe and trust
42:46 and know that God stands back of His Word.
42:50 Let's look quickly in closing five keys
42:54 to understanding biblical faith and reason.
42:57 Key number one.
42:59 God invites questions and discussion and dialogue.
43:03 God invites that.
43:05 We read the scripture earlier, Isaiah 1:18.
43:07 "'Come now, let us reason together,'
43:09 says the Lord,
43:10 'Though your sins be a scarlet, they'll be white as snow,
43:13 though they'd be red like crimson,
43:15 they shall be as wool.'"
43:16 God invites questions discussion and dialogue.
43:20 Number two, understanding God precedes
43:24 any true wisdom or reason.
43:26 In other words,
43:28 we need to understand God first,
43:29 before we ever have any wisdom or any understanding.
43:33 Proverbs 9:10,
43:35 "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
43:38 and the knowledge
43:39 of the Holy One is understanding."
43:41 We need to know God first, before we have anything else.
43:44 Number three, obeying God
43:47 precedes any true knowledge or wisdom.
43:50 So not only do we need to understand God,
43:52 we need to obey Him.
43:55 Proverbs 1:7,
43:56 "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
43:58 but fools despise wisdom and instruction."
44:03 Number four, sanctification precedes
44:07 sharing the reason for our faith with others.
44:11 Let's look at a scripture for that.
44:12 1 Peter 3:15.
44:14 "Sanctify the Lord God in your hearts,
44:18 and be ready always to give a defense
44:21 to everyone who asks you a reason
44:22 for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear."
44:25 What does that say before we witness,
44:27 before we share the truth,
44:29 before we share the Word of God with others?
44:32 God wants to sanctify our hearts.
44:34 He wants to sanctify our lives first then we're equipped
44:39 to share our faith with someone else.
44:41 And finally, number five,
44:43 reason is part of biblical teaching and sermons.
44:48 Acts 17:17 Paul.
44:51 "Paul reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews
44:54 and with the Gentile worshipers,
44:56 and in the marketplace daily
44:58 with those who happen to be there."
45:00 He reasoned, he discussed
45:02 because reason is an important piece,
45:05 an integral part of our faith.
45:07 We just need to make sure it is always subject
45:10 to the Word of God.
45:11 Amen. Praise the Lord.
45:13 Man, this particular lesson
45:14 was very, very relevant to me personally,
45:17 and I know it had to be relevant to you guys
45:19 because going through this, you know,
45:21 hearing Pastor Lomacang
45:23 talk about the traditional aspect
45:25 and, of course, Brother Dinzey talking about
45:27 the experience,
45:28 and then Pastor Kenny with the culture,
45:30 and then of course, you with the this reason
45:34 aspect of Scripture.
45:36 Thursday's lesson is entitled The Bible.
45:38 And it kind of brings all of these,
45:40 kind of ties all of these together,
45:42 but it adds an element
45:43 in which we have to put in proper perspective,
45:46 the relationship between the Holy Spirit
45:49 and Scripture because again,
45:52 all of these aspects that we've discussed so far,
45:54 you know, there's many people
45:56 that will say, you know what, because of my tradition,
45:59 I believe this is Holy Spirit led
46:02 my experiences this and I know,
46:03 the Holy Spirit led me to experience this, you know,
46:06 in this culture that we live in,
46:08 you know, God's Spirit would not be,
46:11 you know, would not be leading me astray
46:13 into a culture that's not right.
46:14 And, of course, in my reasoning,
46:16 in my thoughts, in my ideas,
46:17 and the Holy Spirit's leading and guiding me,
46:20 this particular lesson on Thursday,
46:22 there was a part in here that I have to read.
46:25 It's very well put,
46:26 and so I just want to read it right now.
46:27 It says, "The Holy Spirit, who has revealed
46:29 and inspired the content of the Bible to human beings,
46:33 will never lead us contrary to God's Word
46:38 or astray from the Word of God."
46:41 Very simple put, but very powerful.
46:43 And it goes on to say, "For Seventh-day Adventists,
46:45 the Bible has a higher authority
46:47 than human tradition, experience, reason, or culture.
46:52 The Bible alone is the norm by which everything else
46:56 needs to be tested."
46:57 So hence why this study is entitled The Bible
47:00 because you have all these different aspects
47:02 that people are led by, but at the end of the day,
47:04 we must allow God's Word
47:06 and God's Word alone to lead and guide us.
47:08 In fact, this is very true
47:10 for Jesus Christ in the scriptures.
47:12 Go with me to John Chapter 5. John 5:46-47.
47:18 And then we're gonna jump over to John Chapter 7.
47:21 And you'll see that there's a common theme
47:23 in these two particular texts in relation
47:25 to how Jesus allowed scripture to lead His life.
47:29 John 5:46-47.
47:32 Jesus says here, "For if you believed Moses,
47:35 you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me.
47:39 But if you do not believe his writings,
47:41 how will you believe My words?"
47:44 Okay, so that's John Chapter 5.
47:45 Jesus says it's strongly emphasizing
47:48 the importance of scripture,
47:49 go back to the Bible, study the scripture
47:51 because if you've read these, and of course,
47:53 he's referring to the Old Testament text.
47:55 If you read this Old Testament,
47:56 if you read the scriptures that come before,
47:58 you know that they are testifying of Me.
48:01 John 7:37-38, very similar context.
48:05 Notice, what it says here, "On the last day,
48:08 the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out,
48:11 saying, 'If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.
48:16 He who believes in Me," notice this,
48:19 "as the Scripture has said,
48:21 out of his heart will flow rivers
48:23 of living waters.'"
48:24 So Christ is always emphasizing God's Word in His preaching,
48:28 in His teaching, in His counsel.
48:31 But notice this first off notice,
48:33 notice how Jesus is confirming His divinity
48:36 and His Messiahship here?
48:39 This is a powerful, it's simple, but powerful here.
48:42 Notice, how He's not showing up on the scene and saying,
48:45 you know, "Hey, look,
48:46 look at all these wonderful signs
48:47 and wonders that I'm working here.
48:49 Oh, let me turn this water into wine,
48:50 that proves that I'm your Messiah.
48:52 Let me raise the sky from the dead.
48:54 Surely that proves that I'm your Messiah.
48:55 Let me work all these signs and wonders and these miracles.
48:58 Surely that is the solidified proof
49:00 that I am your coming Messiah."
49:02 That's not what we find here.
49:03 Jesus never pointed the people to the signs and the wonders
49:06 and the experience and the things that
49:08 they were seeing with their eyes.
49:10 He always pointed them back to the scripture saying,
49:11 "Look, I'm your Messiah."
49:13 Why? Because the Bible confirms it.
49:15 Go back to the Scripture, study the Word of God,
49:18 then you will see that I am indeed your Savior.
49:22 It's powerful. You know, he's not using...
49:24 In any of these cases He's not using convoluted,
49:26 you know, out of thin air spiritualistic revelation
49:31 to be the basis of His Messiahship.
49:33 He allows the Word of God to be the basis
49:36 and proof for His ministry and His accomplishments.
49:41 And, you know, this really hit home for me
49:43 because I grew up going, you know,
49:46 to many different churches
49:47 studying with many different denominations,
49:48 but my primary experience growing up in Christianity
49:52 was in the charismatic Pentecostal churches
49:55 and I just want to say for the record,
49:56 I love those people, you know, there's good people,
49:59 wonderful people in this movement.
50:01 But nonetheless, I remember growing up,
50:03 you know, much of that experience
50:05 is based on personal feeling, personal experience,
50:10 and then you'll hear a lot of people say,
50:12 "Well, the Holy Spirit said to me.
50:14 Well, the Holy Spirit told me.
50:16 Well, God said to me last night.
50:18 Well, God came and told me to give you this message."
50:22 And then, you know, some of the things that
50:23 would come out of people's mouths,
50:25 years later, I would find out
50:26 that's not in harmony with God's Word.
50:28 The Holy Spirit will never ever speak to someone
50:32 and lead them contrary to God's Word
50:34 and that's what this lesson here on Thursday's lesson
50:37 is emphasizing the fact that, you know,
50:40 you can have this spiritualistic experience,
50:44 but it leads you to personal philosophies
50:46 and these secret revelations
50:48 that you think are coming from God,
50:50 but it's not from the Spirit of God.
50:53 I think of Desire of Ages, page 671 notice,
50:56 powerful statement from Desire of Ages, page 671.
51:00 "Through the Scriptures
51:02 the Holy Spirit speaks to the mind."
51:04 How does the Holy Spirit minister us?
51:06 Through the Scriptures.
51:08 "And impresses truth upon the heart.
51:11 Thus He exposes error and expels it from the soul.
51:14 It is by the Spirit of truth." I wanna emphasize that.
51:18 Spirit of truth, never will the Holy Spirit.
51:21 Again, I've said this many times.
51:22 Never will the Holy Spirit, teach you something,
51:25 give you something or share something with you
51:27 that is not in harmony with God's truth.
51:28 That's why it's referred to the spirit of truth.
51:30 Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life."
51:33 And, of course, Jesus said, you know, "Sanctify them
51:35 by thy truth, thy word is truth."
51:38 This particular quote goes on to say,
51:40 "It is by the Spirit of truth,
51:41 working through the word of God,
51:43 that Christ subdues His chosen people to Himself."
51:47 So, you know, when I hear a brother or sister say,
51:49 you know, the word...
51:50 I did many different evangelistic series
51:53 and, you know, you meet a lot of different people,
51:55 and you give out, you know,
51:56 you send out those public announcements
51:59 that you're gonna have an evangelistic series
52:00 and you invite people, you want people to come,
52:02 but you never know who's gonna show up,
52:04 and what kind of experience you're gonna have?
52:06 One particular experience comes to my mind,
52:08 where I had done a sermon on the Holy Spirit
52:11 and the gifts of the Spirit.
52:12 And in a small portion of that particular sermon,
52:15 I talked about how, you know,
52:16 the gift of speaking in tongues.
52:19 And I noticed this one lady who came,
52:21 she came every night to my evangelistic series,
52:23 but after that particular sermon,
52:24 she didn't come back.
52:26 And so a day or two kind of went by and I thought,
52:27 "Oh, this isn't, this isn't like her."
52:29 So I called her.
52:30 I said, "Hey, you know, we're missing you,
52:31 is everything okay?"
52:33 And she commenced to tell me,
52:34 "Well, I didn't agree with what you said about that
52:35 because I speak in tongues
52:37 and the Holy Spirit speaks through me
52:39 and the Holy Spirit tells me
52:41 that what I've experienced is real."
52:43 And I remember asking her,
52:44 but what if what you're experiencing
52:47 what you're feeling, and these revelations
52:50 that you're receiving from the Spirit of God
52:52 is not in harmony with God's Word.
52:54 And her response didn't surprise me,
52:56 but yet it did.
52:57 Her response was, "Well, I'm not sure exactly
53:00 what all the Bible teaches on this subject,
53:03 but I know what I've experienced.
53:05 And I know what the Holy Spirit has told me,
53:09 even though it's not in harmony with God's Word."
53:10 And so we got to be careful
53:12 because the Bible tells us in 1 John 4:1,
53:16 "Beloved, do not believe every spirit,
53:19 but test the spirits, whether they are of God,
53:22 because many false prophets have gone out into the world."
53:25 We need to make sure that
53:26 the spirit that is ministering to us
53:29 and teaching us and guiding us is that of the Spirit of God
53:31 and that it's in harmony with God's Word.
53:34 There's no doubt in my mind
53:35 that a Spirit spoke to that woman that
53:38 she was experiencing something that was real,
53:41 but it was not of the genuine Spirit of God.
53:46 Just in closing here,
53:50 and also referencing John 16:8, 13-14.
53:54 We learn what the Bible teaches us
53:56 about the Holy Spirit
53:57 and what we can experience from this,
53:59 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit,"
54:00 this is John 14:26, "The Helper, the Holy Spirit,
54:03 whom the Father will send in My name,
54:05 He will teach you all things,
54:07 and bring to your remembrance
54:09 all things that I have said to you."
54:10 Jesus says.
54:12 So He's not gonna send the Holy Spirit and say,
54:13 you know, just going down there and just tell them whatever.
54:15 No, no, no, the Holy Spirit ministers to us
54:17 of the Word of God.
54:19 John 16:8, 13-14 says, "And when He has come,
54:24 He will convict the world of sin,
54:26 and of righteousness, and of judgment.
54:28 However, when He, the Spirit of," there it is,
54:30 "truth, has come,
54:32 He will guide you into all truth,
54:33 for He will not speak of His own authority,"
54:36 there it is, "but whatever He hears He will speak,
54:39 and He will tell you things to come.
54:41 He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine
54:43 and declare it unto you."
54:45 So there's five things here.
54:47 I'm gonna give, I'm gonna use the list here,
54:48 five things in closing really quickly here.
54:50 The Holy Spirit will teach you
54:52 all things according to Christ's Word.
54:54 He will remind you always of God's ways,
54:58 He will reprove that is convict the world of sin,
55:01 He will guide you into all truth,
55:03 and of course, number five, He always will glorify Christ
55:06 by revealing His character to you.
55:08 So the ultimate lesson
55:10 we can learn here is trust in God's Word.
55:12 Go back to the Bible,
55:14 and the Holy Spirit will continue
55:15 to lead you always.
55:16 Amen. Wow, this is powerful lesson.
55:18 I've really, really enjoyed this
55:20 because all these aspects,
55:23 that quote that you made just a moment ago, tradition,
55:25 experience, culture, reason,
55:28 don't put any of those above the Bible.
55:30 Pastor Dinzey, your closing thought?
55:32 My closing thought is from John 17:2,
55:36 "As you have given Him authority over all flesh,
55:40 He should give eternal life
55:42 to as many as You have given him.
55:45 And this is life eternal, that they may know You,
55:47 the only true God, and Jesus Christ
55:50 whom You have sent."
55:51 Enter into the experience of knowing
55:54 the Father and the Son, and you have eternal life.
55:57 That's right. Thank you. Pastor Kenny?
55:58 Just a quick thought on the Counsels to Parents
56:00 and Teachers, page 323, it says,
56:02 "The followers of Christ are to be separate
56:04 from the world in principle and interests,
56:07 but they are not to isolate themselves
56:09 from the world.
56:11 The Savior mingled constantly with men,
56:13 to uplift and ennoble them."
56:15 That's right. Amen.
56:17 Psalm 119:105, we know the scripture,
56:22 "Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path."
56:26 God's Word illumines our reason,
56:29 our mind, our intellect to enable us to understand
56:33 and share that Word with others.
56:35 That's right. Powerful.
56:36 There was a particular message in Thursday's lesson that
56:41 I just wanna read again, it's powerful.
56:43 It says, "The Holy Spirit should never be understood
56:47 to replace the Word of God."
56:50 And that makes perfect sense because it works in harmony
56:52 with the Word of God, right?
56:53 Rather, as it says, "He works in harmony with
56:56 and through the Bible to draw us to Christ,
56:58 thus making the Bible the only norm
57:01 for authentic biblical spirituality."
57:04 Wow, this lesson is one and I thought,
57:07 I wondered to myself where is this lesson going?
57:10 But if you look at
57:12 what we've just talked about tradition,
57:14 experience, culture, reason,
57:17 all are subject to the Word of God.
57:19 That's right. Amen.
57:21 I've met so many people, Ryan, I was really listening
57:23 from an evangelistic perspective,
57:24 and it's so true.
57:26 The wall against accepting truth
57:27 has been all these categories,
57:29 but I know what the Spirit said to me,
57:31 well, my culture doesn't fit.
57:32 Well, I mean, I've experienced certain things
57:34 that you also experience so this must be
57:36 from the Spirit of God.
57:37 Well, I'm not sure about that.
57:39 Let me see what's the reason I should keep the Sabbath?
57:41 It all comes back to the Word of God.
57:43 So all things are from the Word of God,
57:46 "Sanctify them by Your truth.
57:48 Your word is truth." John 17:17.
57:50 Join us next time
57:52 for the following study lesson number five,
57:54 By Scripture Alone-Sola Scriptura.
57:57 May the Lord bless you, tradition, experience, culture,
58:00 reason, may it all lead you to know Christ.
58:02 Amen.
58:04 Amen.


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