The Creator Revealed

Evidence of the Recent Creation

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript



Series Code: TCR

Program Code: TCR180006B

00:03 Welcome back to The Creator Revealed.
00:05 Today, we are talking about
00:08 evidences that support
00:10 the idea of a recent creation of our earth.
00:15 And we believe this supports
00:17 the biblical account of creation.
00:19 Yes, specifically,
00:20 we've been looking at living things.
00:22 What evidence is there in living things
00:25 that points towards a recent creation
00:29 of all of this life?
00:31 And one of the things that we've talked about
00:34 is chemicals,
00:35 these proteins and other biological chemicals
00:40 that we find inside fossils.
00:45 And so the big question is
00:48 can these things last for millions of years.
00:52 To understand this,
00:54 we're going to talk with a chemist Dr. Ryan Hayes.
00:58 He teaches in the department of chemistry and biochemistry
01:01 at Andrews University,
01:02 which happens to be my alma mater.
01:05 So I'm excited to hear
01:08 what Dr. Hayes has to say about this.
01:10 So welcome, Dr. Hayes.
01:11 Hi, Ryan.
01:14 Hi. It's good to be here.
01:15 Thanks for having me on.
01:17 This is an exciting topic,
01:19 where you have to think about chemicals,
01:22 and recent creation,
01:23 and boy, there's a lot of new information
01:26 that's coming out,
01:28 you know, here in just in the last few years
01:30 and in the last decade or so about all these molecules
01:35 that are, you know, being found in, you know,
01:38 in geological formations or pulling up dinosaur bones
01:42 and finding tissue in there,
01:45 this is just utterly amazing.
01:48 It is incredible stuff.
01:49 And I think that most people
01:52 have a kind of gut level understanding,
01:55 that's something like proteins,
01:57 that's the stuff that muscles are made out of, that's meat.
02:02 And we know that
02:03 meat doesn't last for very long
02:05 on a dead animal.
02:06 So the idea that you would find these things, for example,
02:10 in dinosaur bones
02:12 if you remove the...
02:16 The marrow.
02:18 Yeah, not the bone marrow itself,
02:20 but the hard part, that part of the bone,
02:24 you are actually left with proteins.
02:27 You can do that with obviously modern bones
02:30 or if you take a cow's bone and remove this chemicals
02:34 and they are called calcium, calcium appetite, isn't it?
02:39 And it's hydroxy appetite.
02:41 There's water in there as well. You're trying to show off.
02:42 No, I'm not.
02:45 Not for the chemical talk.
02:47 I love it. Yeah.
02:48 I was just reworking with my students even today
02:51 about the chemical properties of carbon based molecules
02:58 which were made out of and our life is made out of,
03:01 and the energy that is holding our bonds together
03:06 is actually somewhat easily broken
03:08 just from the heats and the lights,
03:12 that we have shine in our planet
03:15 that comes right out of our planet itself.
03:18 And in the molecules,
03:19 where in some ways are designed not to last forever
03:24 without some input into the system.
03:27 So when things are left out in the open
03:30 or left on the ground,
03:32 there's biological things that will come and attack
03:35 and chew them all up or just UV lights and heats,
03:39 or even the coal can break things up
03:42 and the chemicals that were made out of
03:44 and living things are made up with.
03:45 They just don't last that long.
03:48 And there's also something that I've heard of
03:50 called background radiation.
03:53 And apparently, you know, over short periods of time,
03:57 it's not that much.
03:59 But over the course of millions of years,
04:01 there's background radiation that everything is exposed to
04:06 unless you are repairing the damage
04:08 to these molecules,
04:10 you're going to wind up shredding them
04:12 because they are big molecules and boom,
04:14 that radiation gets in there and breaks them.
04:16 You just said over millions of years,
04:18 you don't believe there's been millions of years.
04:20 No. No. Okay.
04:21 In fact, the whole point of this
04:23 is the fact that we find these molecules
04:28 in fossils is a pretty good indicator
04:34 that those fossils are not, in fact, millions of years old.
04:37 And so the idea would be...
04:39 And, Dr. Ryan, correct me if I...
04:41 Dr. Hayes, Dr. Ryan Hayes,
04:44 correct me if I'm getting this wrong.
04:47 But, you know,
04:50 if you find something that should have broken down
04:52 over a long period of time, that probably tells you
04:54 that there hasn't been a long period of time.
04:58 That's absolutely right.
05:00 I think many people don't realize
05:02 that our DNA and lot of other molecules
05:05 in our body are just being pummeled.
05:08 We have thousands of breaks happening every day
05:11 because of the radioactive earth
05:14 that we live in.
05:15 I love making that point to my students
05:17 and the people I talk to,
05:19 we live in a very radioactive world,
05:21 and the reason why we don't see a lot of that damage
05:25 in the short term like days, weeks, and years is that we...
05:29 There are at least five known repair systems
05:32 that are constantly fixing the trillions of miles of DNA
05:37 that we have in our body.
05:39 So without those repair mechanisms,
05:42 DNA and some of the other organic molecules
05:45 will just fall apart from the radioactivity
05:48 and other things that we've talked about.
05:50 So just we live in a really radioactive world,
05:53 but we're sort of shielded from there
05:55 in a sense that was designed
05:58 that knew what problems would happen,
06:00 and systems, a lot of machines that go in and fix our DNA.
06:03 So our DNA is constant being destroyed
06:07 in little bits and pieces every day.
06:09 And it's eventually after enough decades, you know,
06:13 this leads to cancer,
06:15 and so this is why there's such a prevalence of cancer
06:17 is that eventually,
06:19 the systems can't keep up with all the damage
06:21 that's happening in our bodies.
06:23 This work received the Nobel Prize
06:25 in 2015 in chemistry
06:27 figuring out how our DNA is being repaired.
06:30 So when we find these things in the ground or in the earth,
06:34 they can't be that old.
06:36 These things just don't last that long.
06:38 So what about a situation like these people
06:41 who freeze their bodies
06:44 so that they could be resurrected later on?
06:46 Is that something that...
06:48 I mean, is there some conceivable way
06:51 in which we could preserve things in,
06:54 you know,
06:55 so they would last for millions of years
07:00 as some people believe apparently?
07:02 Yeah. Sure.
07:03 I mean, I mean, you'd want to try that, right?
07:05 You know, if you could cool things down cold enough,
07:08 maybe you could stop a lot of the degradation.
07:11 But the fact of the matter is a lot of that radioactivity
07:15 is going to just slam right through
07:18 even frozen material.
07:20 So sure, it's a good idea to try to freeze something
07:23 or encase it in something so it can last a long time.
07:28 But that is a real...
07:29 That even in itself is a real challenge
07:32 and takes design to figure out how you can preserve something
07:36 for such a long time in a random fashion.
07:39 Just throw some cold on it and it'll last forever.
07:42 I don't think so, you know?
07:44 But let's do something that scientists are looking at,
07:46 how do you keep something that lasts for a long time?
07:48 It's not easy.
07:50 It's a hard problem
07:51 to get biological materials to last a long time.
07:54 It's a hard problem.
07:56 And so even when people are working on it then,
07:59 you'll say that's something
08:00 that probably isn't going to happen,
08:02 let alone with some fossil
08:05 that's been buried in the ground in whatever,
08:09 in sandstone, or limestone,
08:10 or whatever you just simply wouldn't expect to get anything
08:13 lasting for millions of years in it.
08:17 No. That's exactly right.
08:19 I mean, so we shouldn't be surprised that
08:25 these things degrade fast.
08:26 We should be surprised that we're seeing anything,
08:28 and I think a lot of scientists are surprised
08:30 that bones are tearing up tissue
08:33 and just finding anything
08:35 that resembles organic molecules
08:38 is just utterly amazing,
08:39 but yeah, that's what we're finding in bones,
08:41 in a lot of samples that by radiometric means
08:45 they seemed to be really old,
08:47 but yet they defy, you know, chemical degradation.
08:54 This is amazing.
08:55 So I think this is some really good evidence
08:57 pointing to the fact that
08:59 life is a relatively recent thing on this planet,
09:03 thousands of years,
09:05 I think we have to take that
09:07 into strong consideration for sure.
09:09 So that means
09:10 that you do accept the biblical account
09:14 and the generations to save it.
09:16 Our earth is probably no more than 6,000 years old.
09:21 Yeah, you know, you ever take a few thousand years,
09:24 but for sure, I mean, I think, as a scientist,
09:26 you have to look at the credibility of the Bible
09:29 and the fact that this document has lasted so long
09:33 and it describes so many things that are so accurate.
09:37 Wow, I would love for my textbook
09:38 to be that accurate, and they're not.
09:43 Well, so... We have to acknowledge that.
09:46 Thank you so much for joining us, Dr. Hayes.
09:48 I know we could talk about this forever, it seems.
09:52 It is a wonderful and fabulous topic.
09:55 You know, Shelley,
09:56 one of the things I love about science
09:59 is that it is full of surprises,
10:03 and sometimes, to be perfectly honest,
10:06 I don't know what to do with those surprises.
10:09 But I remember when I first heard
10:10 about these molecules inside dinosaur bones,
10:14 I was shocked.
10:15 In fact, my colleague, he told me about that I said,
10:18 "I don't think that's going to be true."
10:21 And yet what we've found...
10:23 I and some other scientists
10:24 who collected peer reviewed scientific papers.
10:27 We have hundreds of them now reporting these things.
10:31 It's very strong evidence that life is thousands,
10:37 not millions of years old.
10:38 And is just like archeological finds
10:41 when people said, "Oh, no there was no David,
10:43 there was no this."
10:44 Archeology finally found it,
10:46 and that's what's happening now.
10:49 Science is finding proof
10:51 or evidence of a recent creation.


Revised 2019-03-21