The Incredible Journey

Barry Black: from the Hood to the Hill

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00:24 This is the most powerful place on earth. The U.S. Capitol
00:29 building is one of the most recognizable buildings in the
00:33 world and the center of American government. The world famous
00:38 domed building is home to the United States House of
00:40 Representatives and Senate. This place has the power to shape the
00:46 world more than anywhere else on earth. This is where
00:50 America's congressmen and congresswomen meet to conduct
00:54 business, debate laws, form policy and pass bills on behalf
00:59 of the American people. These leaders possess immense power
01:04 and influence. Their decisions affect virtually every person
01:09 on planet earth. Here on Capitol Hill is a wonderfully unique man
01:15 who provides spiritual guidance to these leaders and keeps his
01:19 finger on the pulse of the nation. He's a leader among
01:23 leaders. Brilliant and articulate, yet humble and
01:26 approachable, he is a force for integrity, goodness, reason and
01:33 compassion. So join me on a journey along the corridors of
01:36 power to the very heart of Capitol Hill to meet him and
01:41 hear a truly American story of how a person from the hood can
01:46 rise to the heights of the Hill and personal and professional
01:51 success. His story will inspire you and encourage you and more
01:55 than that it may even open your windows to personal success and
02:01 happiness, because his story is more than inspirational. It's a
02:05 template for true success.
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02:27 The United States of America is the most powerful and
02:31 influential nation the world has ever seen. It's the world's
02:35 foremost economic power with it's gross domestic product
02:39 accounting for close to a quarter of the world total.
02:42 America is also the world's dominant military power with a
02:47 budget almost as much as the rest of the world's defense
02:51 spending combined. America's influence is everywhere. It's
02:57 home to companies known all over the world: McDonald's, Nike,
03:02 Coca Cola, Amazon, Google, Apple and on and on the list
03:06 goes. Eight of the World's top 10 companies are American.
03:10 American culture, American movies, American music, American
03:15 soldiers, American food, American customs; they're all
03:19 encompassing. No wonder people say there's never been a super
03:25 power like the U.S.A. in terms of power and influence. And all
03:30 this has been achieved in less that 250 years. The United
03:36 States originated in a revolution that separated it
03:40 from the British crown in 1776. The American constitution was
03:46 drafted 11 years later in 1787 and established a federal system
03:51 of government with a division of powers that has remained
03:55 virtually unchanged in form since its inception. Now there
04:01 are three branches in the United States government. You see the
04:05 founders wanted them to be checks and balances for each
04:07 other. They didn't want any one group or individual to be able
04:12 to accumulate too much power. So the three branches are the
04:18 Executive branch headed by the President which enforces the law
04:22 Then the Judicial branch headed by the Supreme Court; it
04:28 interprets the law and finally the Legislative branch based in
04:32 the congress which writes the laws. Now the congress is based
04:37 here on Capitol Hill and has two parts: The House of
04:42 Representatives or the lower house and the Senate or the
04:45 upper house. Now the basic role of the House or Representatives
04:49 is to write, vote on and pass laws while the Senate's job
04:54 includes approving treaties, confirming judges and also
04:59 producing laws. The Senate is composed of two senators from
05:05 each state. So with 50 states making up the United States
05:09 there are 100 senators. Now the Senate is considered the more
05:14 prestigious of the two houses and wields immense power and
05:19 influence. It's decisions affect not only America but the rest
05:23 of the world as well. Yes, we're all affected by the decisions
05:28 that are made here. The founding fathers realized the huge
05:34 responsibility resting on these senators and so way back in 1789
05:40 the Senate elected its first chaplain to serve the spiritual
05:44 needs of the country's lawmakers and to set the tone and provide
05:48 spiritual guidance at the very highest level of American
05:53 government. Barry Black is the 62nd chaplain of the United
05:58 States Senate and the first African American to hold this
06:03 office. He's a remarkable man. He's a leader among leaders. He
06:09 previously served in the U.S. Navy for 27 years and was the
06:13 Navy's Chief of Chaplains and rose to the rank of Rear Admiral
06:17 with many medals and decorations before retiring from the Navy.
06:22 He's a brilliant and articulate man with a photographic memory.
06:27 He's got three master's degrees and three doctorates and yet
06:32 he's so humble and approachable. President Barack Obama said this
06:37 about Barry Black:
07:00 He opens each session of the United States Senate with a
07:03 prayer. He advises, counsels and prays with senators who seek his
07:09 advice. Barry Black is a force for integrity, goodness, reason
07:15 and compassion along the corridors of power on Capitol
07:20 Hill. Let's go and meet him. Chaplain Black thank you for
07:25 your invitation to the Capitol Building and to meet in your
07:29 office. It's a pleasure to have you on our program today.
07:32 I'm delighted to be with you, Gary.
07:35 Chaplain Black tell us a little about your early life.
07:39 I grew up in Baltimore, Maryland, which is about 30
07:42 miles from Washington, D.C., I grew up in the inner city.
07:46 It was an urban challenge actually, an asphalt jungle and
07:54 I grew up in a neighborhood that had a great deal of poverty and
07:57 a great deal of pathology. There were drug pushers, people who
08:03 sold drugs, domestic violence was a spectator sport; you could
08:08 actually sit on your front steps and see someone, I would say a
08:16 spouse, beating another spouse but you know there weren't a lot
08:20 of marriage certificates in that neighborhood and sometimes it
08:23 was actually a woman chastising the man in a very physical way.
08:29 There were temptations, allurements and it was the
08:34 challenge of my mother to raise eventually eight children with a
08:42 nomadic husband who was not around very often and to ensure
08:48 that we received the harmonious development of our physical,
08:52 mental, spiritual and social powers. She wanted to ensure
08:56 that we had a Christian education. My family was on
09:01 public assistance, or as we called it back in the 50s and
09:04 60s, welfare. And so my mother had to find a way of enabling my
09:10 siblings and me to matriculate at a Christian school which we
09:15 all did from grade one all the way through college and graduate
09:19 school, although she was a domestic on welfare who made
09:24 only six dollars a day.
09:26 Chaplain Black did you ever feel inferior because of where
09:30 you came from?
09:32 I think that most African Americans felt inferior because
09:37 of the very nature of our society at the time. You have to
09:45 remember I was born in the 1940s I was born before President
09:50 Harry Truman desegregated the armed forces. I was born at a
09:58 time when we were called coloreds, later Negros, then
10:03 black then African American. I was born at a time when we had
10:07 a phenomenon known as colorism where the more fair your skin
10:13 the more favor you received. And we had a little maxim, If
10:19 you're yellow you're mellow, if you're brown stick around,
10:22 if you're white you're all right but if you're black get back.
10:27 So there was literally gradations even in the African
10:30 American community. Fortunately, however, there was a
10:35 transformative power
10:37 in the word of God and I started reading the Bible and one day
10:41 came across the scripture in I Peter chapter 1:18 and 19
10:47 For we are redeemed not with corruptible seed such as silver
10:52 and gold but with the precious blood of the Lamb, Jesus Christ.
10:56 And although I was only 10 years of age I was able to do the
11:01 deductive reasoning that the value of an object was based
11:06 upon the price someone was willing to pay and when it
11:09 dawned on me that God had sent his Son to die for me, no one
11:15 was ever able to make me feel inferior again.
11:18 Who had the greatest influence or impact on your life?
11:22 Gary, the greatest impact on my life was made by my mother. My
11:27 mother was pregnant with me when she was baptized and as she
11:33 was immersed in the baptismal pool after an evangelistic
11:37 meeting of 12 weeks, she prayed for the Holy Spirit to place a
11:42 special anointing on her unborn child. So I never had any desire
11:49 to be anything but a minister. My mother reminded me that I was
11:54 like Jeremiah in Jeremiah 1:5, set apart in her womb for a
12:00 special mission. I knew that, but when I saw that most of the
12:05 ministers were financially challenged, like Jonah I fled in
12:10 the opposite direction.
12:12 Chaplain Black, why did you decide to become a chaplain,
12:15 a pastor?
12:16 I, in the 11th grade, went away to boarding academy for African
12:22 Americans in Pine Forge, Pennsylvania called Pine Forge
12:25 Academy and the best preachers in my denomination would come
12:31 through for a week and preach and teach. And one evening
12:35 after a revival I walked outside of the chapel in the darkness, I
12:42 looked up at the heavens and I saw the stars for the first time
12:47 You don't see the stars in the inner city. You've got the
12:51 street lights and that kind of thing. You don't see the stars
12:53 like you see them in a rural environment with no street
12:58 lights or anything and it looked like a fireworks display and I
13:05 gasped and I said, Oh my God! And I stood there before what
13:11 seemed to me the majesty and infinitude of the universe right
13:16 there in that little field. And I suddenly knew that I didn't
13:21 know where I had come from, why I was here and where I was going
13:28 and I suddenly was aware of my infinite smallness. I was
13:33 suddenly cognizant of my frailty the brevity of my existence. It
13:39 seemed like I could hear something in my spirit say Barry
13:43 I think it's about time that we get to know one another. And
13:47 that was the first palpable, experiential and visceral
13:53 connection that I had with the Transcendent and that was my
14:00 Damascus road, that was my true call to ministry. Mom had
14:05 informed me of Him but like the Queen of Sheba said, We've heard
14:09 about you but now we see you and the half has not been told. That
14:15 God has been with me from that time until this one.
14:21 So how did you end up in the Navy?
14:24 I had a passion to work with young people and I was pastoring
14:29 octogenarians. I had a man in my church that was over 100
14:34 years old. I mean if you averaged out the age of my
14:38 congregation it was in the 80s, okay. And I was in my 20s. And
14:45 the leaders of my denomination who appointed me to
14:49 churches said;
14:50 You're too young to work with young people. You need to be 40,
14:54 which seemed to me senior citizen in those days. You need
14:56 to have experience, maturity. So I began to look at options where
15:03 I could work with young people. I looked at prison ministry.
15:06 Certainly plenty of young people there. I looked at an academic
15:12 ministry on a university campus as a chaplain. I looked at
15:15 Veterans Administration, hospital ministry and then a
15:20 gentleman by the name of Clark Smith called and said we are
15:26 looking for ordained Sabbath- keeping ministers to go into the
15:30 military to help our young sailors, soldiers, marines who
15:36 are having difficulty keeping Sabbath. It was my cup of tea.
15:44 No if, ands and buts about it. It was a protracted honeymoon.
15:47 I spent 27 years in the Navy and my worst day was a good day.
15:55 And I discovered that God delights in his people taking
16:03 judicious risks. Peter says in Matthew 14:28, Lord if it's you
16:09 bid me come and walk with you on water. In other words, Lord if
16:13 it's you bid me do the impossible and Jesus says Come.
16:20 So he has a sense of humor and he likes for us to take
16:27 judicious risks. So when you step out of the boat at his
16:31 bidding you'll walk on water. And it may be some little,
16:35 sinking but you'll walk on water. So, that's my story and
16:40 I'm sticking to it.
16:43 So how did you become the senate chaplain of the United States?
16:46 I became the 62nd chaplain of the United States Senate when
16:53 the incumbent, Dr. Lloyd John Ogilvie decided to
16:58 step down. An eight
17:00 member selection committee then interviewed scores of chaplains
17:05 because each Senator, we have 100 Senators, was permitted to
17:11 nominate a minister, priest, rabbi, imam to be interviewed for
17:18 the job and I was nominated by a member of the armed services
17:22 committee and went through the first interview where they
17:28 winnowed down the number to 10. The 10 were then interviewed a
17:33 second time and then they winnowed that down to two and
17:38 then the two finalists were interviewed by the Senate
17:42 Majority Leader who then made a decision as to which of the two
17:48 would receive the appointment. So it was a very thorough
17:53 vetting and an amazing and wonderful honor to be selected.
17:58 And I'm going into my 16th year now so, time has flown.
18:03 What is your role and responsibilities as Chaplain of
18:08 the Senate of the United States?
18:12 Well each day when the Senate convenes it is opened with an
18:20 invocation and prayer from the chaplain. That has been going on
18:25 since 1789, uninterrupted prayer and it is probably the most
18:31 visible part of what I do, just the tip of the ice berg. Gary,
18:37 my role and my responsibilities as the Chaplain of the United
18:43 States Senate can probably be summed up in the simple
18:49 statement that I am a pastor to about 7000 people who make up
18:53 the senate side of Capitol Hill. So, I literally an pastoring a
18:59 mega church without an associate. I do four Bible
19:03 studies every week, one just for the senators, one for the
19:06 chiefs of staff, the brains of the senators and then two
19:10 plenary, anyone who wants to come, Capitol Police, janitors,
19:15 chefs, you name it. They're all there for the plenary Bible
19:18 studies. I do a spiritual mentoring class. Every week I
19:23 meet with our law makers for a prayer breakfast. I do
19:26 counseling, I have a Ph.D. in psychology, I officiate at
19:30 weddings, I officiate at funerals and memorial services.
19:33 I do work space visitation, I do hospital visitation. So it's a
19:38 wonderful opportunity to be a pastor for 7000 people.
19:42 Looking back over your life, do you think that God had a plan
19:47 for you?
19:49 Well I know God has a plan for every life, Gary.
19:51 In Jeremiah 29:11, he says, I know the plans that I have for
19:58 your life. (indistinct) I give you a window into my mind, into
20:03 my omniscience. My plan is to prosper you, and I'm going to be
20:10 a poor preacher. My plan is to give you a future. My plan is to
20:15 give you a hope. My plan is to bring you to an expected end.
20:17 When I was eight years of age, my mother brought home the only
20:21 record anyone ever gave her, the only record she ever brought
20:25 home, that she was given. And the record said, the morning sun
20:30 had been up for some hours over the city of David. He's not
20:33 from around here. Pilgrims and visitors were pouring in through
20:37 the gates mingling with _ from villages round about.
20:41 from the hills and the narrow streets were crowded. I played
20:46 it repeatedly until I'd memorized it. It was the record
20:50 of the sermons of Peter Marshall the 57th Chaplain of the United
20:56 States Senate. When I wrote my autobiography, From the Hood to
20:59 the Hill, the editors from Thomas Nelson who published it
21:04 said, We love what you've written. Our only question is,
21:12 Okay, well that's good, it's nonfiction. They said because it
21:17 this fiction or nonfiction. (chuckles) I said it's an
21:18 autobiography. Okay well that's good, it's nonfiction. They said
21:20 because it
21:21 would strain credulity that an African American child in the
21:25 toxic pathology of the inner city would listen repeatedly to
21:31 a sermon record by the 57th Chaplain of the United States
21:35 Senate, then grow up to become the only African American
21:39 Admiral in the history of the United States Navy Chaplain
21:44 Corporation and before
21:45 he can retire he is appointed the 62nd chaplain
21:49 of the United States Senate, a successor to Marshall, and by
21:56 the way, the only one of African heritage who's ever had the
21:59 job as well, or the only career military officer whose ever
22:02 had... It would strain credulity but since it actually happened
22:06 I guess we can run with it. So, God has a plan and as you can
22:15 see from the view in this office he has definitely led me to a
22:19 desired destination and to an expected end.
22:22 Chaplain Black what message from Capitol Hill would you like to
22:28 share with our audience?
22:29 One of the great Americans who has a monument on the Washington
22:36 D.C. mall put it this way. We shall overcome, making much
22:42 out of little, because the arch of the moral universe is long
22:46 but it bends toward justice. We can make much out of little
22:52 because Carlisle is right, No lie can live forever. We can
22:55 make much out of little because William Cullen Bryant is right,
23:00 Truth crushed to earth will rise again. We can make
23:03 much out of little because James Russell Lowell is right, Truth
23:08 forever on the scaffold, wrong forever on the throne, yet that
23:13 scaffold sways the future and behind the dim unknown standeth
23:19 God within the shadows keeping watch above his own.
23:24 And as you make much out little, like that little boy's lunch
23:28 placed in the hands of the Savior. Galatians 6:9, Do not
23:33 become weary in well doing for in due season you will reap if
23:41 you faint not.
23:44 Chaplain Black you pray for some of the most powerful and
23:49 influential people on the planet Would you please offer a prayer
23:54 for our audience today.
23:55 Well I'd love to do that, Gary. What I would like to do is to
23:59 offer a prayer that I put at the end of my book, From the Hood
24:02 to the Hill, that has been attributed to Sir Francis Drake.
24:08 So let's pray:
25:30 We pray in your Sovereign name Amen.
25:39 Chaplain Barry Black's story is certainly encouraging and
25:46 inspiring. He shows we can over come the challenges of life even
25:52 in a high pressure environment. He shows how a person of modest
25:57 beginnings can rise to heights of personal and professional
25:59 success and he did it by remaining faithful to his values
26:05 and principles and above all faithful to God. Sometimes we
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27:36 If you've enjoyed today's journey to Capitol Hill and
27:41 Washington, D.C. and our interview with Chaplain Barry
27:45 Black then be sure to join us again next week when we will
27:48 share another of life's journeys together. Until then, remember
27:53 the ultimate destination of life's journey. Now I saw a new
27:57 heaven and a new earth. And God will wipe away every tear from
28:01 their eyes. There shall be no more death nor sorrow nor crying
28:05 There shall be no more pain for the former things have
28:09 passed away.
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