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The Killer Comes to Dinner

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00:24 Dr. Hans Diehl is one of America's 20 superheroes of
00:28 health. He's a bestselling author, researcher, speaker and
00:32 clinical professor of preventive medicine at Loma Linda
00:36 University in California. He's at the forefront of the emerging
00:40 field of lifestyle medicine. The clinical results of his research
00:45 have been published in over 20 medical journals. Through world
00:50 class CHIP programs he advocates a simpler saner diet that
00:55 prevents, arrests, and reverses many common diseases including
00:59 heart disease. His best selling book Health Power
01:03 had two million
01:04 copies in circulation and has been translated into 21
01:09 languages.
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01:23 Dr. Hans Diehl, I'm delighted that you're with us again. Now
01:26 our topic today is a fascinating one, The Killer Comes to Dinner.
01:32 What's that all about?
01:34 It's actually pretty serious. Oh? He's fed three times a day,
01:39 he doesn't pay for his meals, he's a free loader, he loves
01:44 cholesterol, fat and grease, that's his favorite foods and he
01:50 gets bigger and bigger and he grows more and more and he grows
01:54 and takes up more and more room within our arteries. The killer,
02:03 he strikes without
02:05 any warning and in one out of three cases the first
02:11 sign that he's there is also the last sign. Oh this is serious.
02:15 Sudden death. Atherosclerosis, hardening of the arteries. And
02:21 somehow the killer is directly associated with what we put into
02:26 our systems, food.
02:29 So what we put on our tables, The Killer Comes to Dinner.
02:33 Yeah, we feed him and he takes up residence inside of our
02:38 arteries and then without any warning, he's not very grateful,
02:42 he just strikes. The first sign for most people is sudden death.
02:48 Let me show you what that killer really looks like. Let's take
02:53 I first woke up, so to speak, when I was working on the
02:56 anesthesia service learning how to put people to sleep. And I
03:00 was seeing my patients for the next day's surgery for coronary
03:03 artery bypass surgery in order to bypass clogged
03:06 arteries in their
03:07 heart. Because it was late at night I drew the man's blood
03:10 test and when I took the blood to the laboratory and had it
03:13 processed I couldn't believe my eyes. Now normally this liquid
03:18 layer floating on top of the blood clot is quite transparent,
03:21 yellow, but quite clear. You can see right through it. The blood
03:24 in this patient's tube, however, was anything but clear. The
03:28 serum floating on his clot was thick and greasy white, it
03:32 looked like glue, in fact it stuck to the sides of the blood
03:35 tube when I shook the tube. I went back to the patient. I said
03:38 Mr. Phillips did you eat before you came to the hospital tonight
03:41 He said yes. I said, what did you have? He said I had a cheese
03:44 burger and a milk shake. And when he said that I realized
03:48 that what I was looking at in his tube was all the fat in the
03:52 beef burger, all the butter fat in the cheese and the butter fat
03:55 in the ice cream and in the milk shake. And all this fat had
03:59 oozed out into his blood and actually turned his blood fat.
04:02 Well 30, 40, 50 years of keeping your blood very fatty creates
04:07 changes in the blood vessels that are very dangerous. Over
04:12 the years arteries can become clogged with fatty material.
04:15 Then a blood clot can form blocking the blood flow
04:19 completely. If the artery leads to the heart a lack of oxygen
04:23 can cause heart muscle to die. That's a heart attack. If the
04:28 clogged artery leads to the brain, the patient has a stroke.
04:32 The next morning we took Mr. Phillips to the operating room
04:37 and I put him to sleep and the surgeon opened up his chest.
04:40 And from these arteries he began pulling out yellow greasy
04:47 deposits of fatty material called atherosclerosis.
04:54 It's really amazing isn't it? If you're an Australian, if you're
04:57 an American at 20 years of age, you have 20 percent narrowing
05:01 already of these coronary arteries. By time you're 50 you
05:05 probably have 50, 60 percent narrowing already and you have
05:09 no symptoms. The killer is enjoying his presence within
05:13 your arteries, you're feeding him every day. By the time
05:17 you're 70 years of age you might have 70, 80, 90 percent
05:20 narrowing and you still don't have any clue what's going on.
05:24 The first sign, if you're lucky, is angina pectoris, that's sort
05:30 of a chest pain like an elephant sitting on your chest. It comes
05:35 and then you relax and it goes. That means the artery is not
05:39 blocked but it's narrowed. But it's blocked and you have a
05:43 blood clot. You know, that's when no blood is reaching the
05:47 heart anymore and the heart begins to, the muscle begins to
05:51 die. Now it's really heart disease. You know, the
05:56 interesting part is that this disease, atherosclerosis, is not
06:00 just affecting the coronary arteries, but the arteries in
06:03 the brain, to the ear, to the eyes, to the carotids, they're
06:09 affecting the kidney arteries,
06:11 it affects the penal arteries responsible for impotence, to a
06:15 large extent it has to do with the femoral arteries to the legs
06:19 Then you have claudication or you have gangrene. So this is
06:24 really a very systemic disease process. It's really one disease
06:30 called atherosclerosis even thought they give it different
06:32 names based on the location.
06:35 Then it affects the whole body.
06:36 Yeah and so therefore if we take care of coronary artery disease
06:40 we actually take care of the whole circulatory system right?
06:43 So that's a very important concept to get across I think.
06:45 So this is a very insidious disease. It works by stealth.
06:51 Well that means that how can I know if I've got it?
06:55 Now you're worried then?
06:57 Yes. How can I tell?
07:00 You know you don't have a clue. And so the government became
07:03 very interested. Why is this? What is the nature
07:07 of this disease?
07:08 And they began to launch a major study called the Framingham
07:13 study. It's a town of about 50,000 people. They enrolled in
07:18 1949 some 5200 people who probably had no obvious disease
07:25 processes. And they said we want to follow these people. Every
07:29 three years they had examinations and they watched
07:32 these people year after year after year and they recorded the
07:37 diseases. They recorded the hospitalizations. They recorded
07:40 the deaths. This was all done before computers. This was a
07:43 monumental study. The study's still even today going on. It's
07:47 now a three generation study. It's the gold standard. It's the
07:52 ultimate study that helps us understand what heart disease
07:58 was. You asked the question, how can I tell? You really can't
08:01 tell because it's asymptomatic, it has no symptoms. That says
08:07 almost too late, isn't it?
08:08 So who is at risk from this hardening of the arteries, this
08:12 cardiovascular disease? I mean it affects 100,000 Australians
08:17 with heart attacks, with strokes each year. It kills over 50,000
08:23 Australians. It costs our economy eight billion dollars.
08:27 Who's at risk? Who does it affect?
08:31 You know that's so interesting. This disease is not really a
08:35 respecter of persons, their gender or their color or their
08:40 origin. It strikes anywhere. But in general, it has to do with our
08:47 understanding of the disease and what we're willing to do for it.
08:50 Now coming back to Framingham.
08:54 The little town outside of Boston?
08:56 That's right, that's right. So they started that program and
09:00 within six to 10 years they began to recognize that the
09:04 people that had high cholesterol levels compared to those with
09:08 low cholesterol levels in the study, they had three, four,
09:11 five times more often a heart attack. They said, ah, maybe
09:16 cholesterol is one of these factors that places you at risk.
09:19 Then they found out that those who were smokers had much more
09:23 heart disease than those who didn't. In those days they
09:25 always thought smoking caused lung cancer. But this is the
09:28 first time now, oh, it's related to heart disease as well. They
09:32 looked at blood pressure problems, they looked at
09:36 diabetes and they looked at overweight and they looked at
09:39 inactive lifestyle and they began to realize that these were
09:42 the risk factors, the factors that are drivers of this disease
09:46 I put these risk factors into an arch for educational purposes.
09:49 Just take a look here. The more risk factors the greater the
09:54 risk. It's not one plus one plus one plus one or two plus two
09:58 plus two. No. It's three times three. So it's a multiplication
10:04 here. So the more risk factors the higher the risk. So these
10:07 risk factors then drive this disease process. But there is
10:12 something aside from these mathematical predictions, the
10:19 estimates that we can make for all populations based on these
10:22 risk factors and that is that when you look at the next risk
10:26 arch as you see here, you notice that I have given them a special
10:31 color; that is the cholesterol, the high blood pressure, the
10:34 triglycerides and then you see the diabetes and the obesity.
10:37 These one, two, three, four, five risk factors are very unique
10:42 because there's something in common.
10:44 And what are they?
10:46 What do they have in common? There's something in common and
10:50 that is these risk factors, cholesterol, high blood pressure
10:54 triglycerides, diabetes and obesity, they relate to largely
11:00 what we put between our lips. The diet related risk factors.
11:06 So just think. The majority of risk factors that drive this
11:10 disease cause atherosclerosis and all the other diseases that
11:14 come with it are largely determined by what we put
11:16 between our lips. Our diet becomes very, very important.
11:20 How do we go about getting our cholesterol down?
11:22 Well you know medication is sort of the second line of
11:26 defense the way we look at it. If we cannot get
11:29 the cholesterol to
11:30 come down with dietary means then we always are very happy to
11:33 take a look at medications. That's what we think is the
11:37 second-best option because if you use diet then you have no
11:40 side effects and you can reduce your food bill and so on and so
11:45 forth. So but how do you do it dietarily? There are three
11:48 things.
11:49 That's what we all want to know. What are these three simple
11:52 things?
11:53 Number one: Don't eat cholesterol. Where do you find
11:56 the cholesterol? Only animal products. Liver is the highest,
12:01 then egg yolk, then shrimp and then beef, pork, and chicken is
12:06 the same amount of cholesterol.
12:08 So what are you saying? Are you saying that chicken has the same
12:13 amount of cholesterol as red meat?
12:15 You seem to be surprised. Yes.
12:19 You know everybody's surprised. When I say that people say no
12:22 that cannot be possible. Because they remember that chicken
12:26 probably has some advantages.
12:29 And it does. We usually recommend white meat.
12:32 That's right and it is lower in fat content, which is important.
12:37 Although the way chickens are raised nowadays a lot of things
12:40 are changing. They're already prepared when they come to you.
12:42 Whether it's white meat or red meat and whether it's pork or
12:46 not you know the amount of cholesterol is about the same.
12:50 So you want to reduce cholesterol which means you
12:52 better cut back on all animal products, okay? Of course, that
12:56 also includes eggs and so on. But number two: Really cut back
13:00 on saturated fats and trans fats Yeah, the trans fats are the
13:06 fats that you find in cakes and pies, the hydrogenated oils that
13:12 don't turn rancid and that's why they are liked by the industry.
13:16 So that's trans fats and that's what you find on the nutrition
13:20 label listed. Because even if it lists two grams it's really
13:24 pushing the liver into overdrive to make the cholesterol. So it's
13:28 trans fats. Then you have the saturated fat. These are the
13:32 fats that you find in animal products and maybe some coconut.
13:36 And the third one is use more soluble fiber because it kind
13:42 of ushers the cholesterol out and that's what you find in
13:46 beans and in oats. It's in oat bran. This is what helps you
13:50 there. The average of cholesterol levels of people who
13:55 attended the Pritikin Longevity Center and this is within less
13:59 than four weeks you can drop your cholesterol levels by 25
14:03 percent. The higher the cholesterol initially the bigger
14:07 the drop. We find the same thing in our CHIP program, the
14:09 Complete Health Improvement Program. Those people come to
14:12 us with the highest cholesterol levels. They have dropped for
14:16 25, 30, 35 percent within four weeks. So the dietary approach
14:21 works very, very well. And what the Pritikin people found in the
14:28 center was that people came to them because of heart disease.
14:32 They also found that the diabetes improved. They could be
14:35 off medication many times. They found that the blood pressure
14:38 came down. They found that they were eating more food than ever
14:42 before and yet they lost weight because the food they were
14:46 eating were foods that were basically low-fat foods and as
14:51 you know that is the most concentrated source of energy
14:54 in the diet. So when you cut back on oils, fats, and grease
14:58 you immediately lower your calorie intake and so weight
15:02 loss is being facilitated and with that blood pressures come
15:07 down, diabetes comes down, heart disease. All these kind of
15:10 things begin to happen.
15:11 In the meantime a young cardiologist at Harvard began to
15:17 think of what could be done to build on the encouraging
15:23 outcomes in the Pritikin Longevity Center program, right?
15:27 So what he did, he took 48 heart disease patients and he put half
15:32 of them on the common American Heart Association diet, not
15:37 quite as strict and rigid as the one that he put the other half
15:41 on and these were now people that he placed on a diet that
15:45 had only less than 10 percent of the calories in fat. Now just to
15:51 explain that, an Australian diet American diet is about 35
15:55 percent fat. Now this is less than 10 percent so it's a very
15:59 strict diet. Also he didn't allow them any cholesterol to
16:02 speak of. So that means it was basically a plant based diet.
16:06 Lots of fiber. And then he followed them up for one year
16:11 and he noticed that on this program 25 percent drop in
16:16 cholesterol. Moreover he found that American Heart Association
16:21 diet only lowered the cholesterol by five percent.
16:24 And then he looked at the very sophisticated technologies,
16:28 space age technologies, when he looked at the coronary arteries
16:32 he began to realize that 82 percent of the plaques, those
16:39 pimples on the inside of the arteries wall, that 82 percent
16:44 had begun to melt down. The disease reversal was taking
16:49 place. The melting down was beginning while on the control
16:53 group, the American Heart Association, he found that 53
16:56 percent of the plaques had progressed. To reverse the
17:01 disease we've got to go further you have to go further
17:06 towards a diet that
17:07 is very lean and basically free of cholesterol. And you know the
17:13 results speak for themselves.
17:15 So this is now a major breakthrough. It's been
17:19 demonstrated not just in monkeys but also in humans.
17:22 Right. We're speaking of everything. Because we thought
17:25 that bypass surgery was the answer, placing stents was the
17:27 answer and now something as simple as a dietary change can
17:31 produce these changes. It was big news. Then of course shortly
17:36 thereafter the reports came out from the Cleveland Clinic, a
17:39 famous heart center in America and their Dr. Esselstyn
17:44 demonstrated that he was able to take patients that were the
17:47 walking dead as he called them. They already had bypass and
17:51 everything else and nothing could be done for them anymore.
17:53 And he placed them on a very simple diet similar to what
17:55 Ornish had done, basically a vegetarian diet, foods as grown,
18:00 high in fiber, you know lots of vegetables, fruits, whole grains
18:05 and legumes and he brought their cholesterols down to less than
18:12 4.0 and over the next five years the results were there. He
18:16 followed them up for another seven years, that's 12 years'
18:20 results. Great, great success. And now he wrote a book
18:23 chronicling 20 years of these patients, many of whom had been
18:31 given five, six months to live. And all of them but four are
18:34 alive and doing well. And when you make some of these simple
18:39 lifestyle changes as we do in the CHIP program, here's what
18:42 can happen to people. And here's now something that I want to
18:46 show you that we picked up the other day from Mark McNeill, a
18:50 graduate of CHIP, Complete Health Improvement Program. Take
18:53 a look. He's following a very simple diet. Just take a look.
18:56 I'm so glad, life is just great. I've felt well and then bang
19:03 then I was told you've got six arteries that are blocked and
19:07 99 percent blocked. And so that was a bit of a surprise. I had
19:12 to have five bypasses. After that after getting out of the
19:18 operation what had
19:20 happened there I went back onto my normal diet which I thought
19:25 was great. I had a good diet I thought. Went back and had blood
19:31 tests and I was surprised. My cholesterol was raised, blood
19:36 pressure was up and at that point I was introduced to the
19:41 CHIP program. I went onto it immediately, straight away.
19:46 I had to do that. Within two months of going on the CHIP
19:49 program my cholesterol was half, blood pressure was down. In fact
19:56 I had to lower my blood pressure pills because I was getting
19:59 dizzy. I had to_. And then that allowed me now to get back
20:04 into things I loved. Two weeks ago I got back on the bike.
20:07 One thing I really noticed I used to bike before
20:11 I was always out of breath.
20:12 I went out two weeks ago. I hit the hills. I didn't even get a
20:16 sweat. I was doing some marvelous riding. You know, I
20:19 was getting back on the bike, biking with my friends, living
20:22 life to the full. And my life was just beginning again.
20:36 You know, when I see that, that's payday for me. I mean it
20:39 makes me feel so good that we can do something about a disease
20:42 that is so devastating.
20:44 So a simple, natural diet is really a blessing.
20:48 The evidence is piling up strongly every day. We are what
20:52 we eat. And the former surgeon general, Dr. Koop, said it very
20:57 well. He said, no prescription is more valuable than knowledge
21:02 when it comes to health and disease. People, you are what
21:06 you eat. Make better choices because you can prevent this
21:10 disease and you probably can also reverse this disease.
21:14 Dr. Hans, this is information we need. Thank you for joining us
21:19 and we wish you a safe and happy stay here in Australia.
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24:24 ultimate destination of life's journey. Now I saw a new heaven
24:29 and a new earth. And God will wipe away every tear from their
24:34 eyes. There shall be no more death nor sorrow nor crying.
24:37 There shall be no more pain for the former things have passed
24:41 away.
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25:06 Our story begins with the destructions of the sacred city
25:10 of Jerusalem during a series of fierce battles that started in
25:14 605 B.C., just over 2600 years ago. The greatest empire of the
25:21 ancient world, Babylon, attacked and plundered the nation of
25:26 Judah taking many of the people captive. Among the captives were
25:32 four gifted young Jewish men. They were brought into the
25:35 luxurious palace of King Nebuchadnezzar where they were
25:39 to serve at the king's whim. The whole idea was to reprogram
25:44 these young men and give them a totally new world view, one
25:48 based on the values and principles of Babylon. Before
25:53 long the young captives faced a test. And it arose over the
25:57 issue of food. You see, although they were captives they were
26:01 being treated like royalty. They could even eat the king's
26:05 special food and sit at his table, but to do so meant to be
26:11 disobedient to the God of heaven God had given instructions
26:15 regarding what food was best for people to eat. These young men
26:21 had been taught about the importance of eating the right
26:24 food that was best for them and avoiding food that was harmful
26:28 to their health. But now they faced a real dilemma. To fail to
26:34 eat at the king's table meant to be disobedient to the king of
26:39 Babylon who was treating them so favorably. They had to make a
26:44 difficult decision. Who would they obey, God or the king?
26:49 Well, Daniel and his friends didn't hesitate in making a
26:54 decision, an important decision. We read about it in Daniel
26:58 chapter one and verse eight:
27:10 There was no question in Daniel's mind. Loyalty to God
27:15 was more important than loyalty to the king. He resolved that he
27:21 would be faithful to the Lord of heaven and earth.
27:24 He would honor his God
27:25 in all the details of life, even in what he ate and drank. So
27:31 begins the book of Daniel, which right away, sets a theme that
27:36 would be found throughout the entire book, obedience to God
27:39 versus obedience to man. And it presents us with a challenge.
27:45 Do we do what is right and what we believe is right or do we go
27:50 with the majority to be popular to be liked and maybe even to
27:54 advance our career? The test described in chapter one seemed
27:59 very mild in comparison to the much greater test to come later
28:04 in the book. But the lesson of chapter one is that only those
28:08 who pass the minor test will ever pass the major test. You
28:14 see, if we cannot remain loyal to God when the test is easy,
28:17 we will never be obedient when real trouble comes. How
28:22 important then that we be faithful to God at all times.


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