Participants: Dwayne Lemon, Lance Wilbur
Series Code: TKS
Program Code: TKS000047A
00:28 Hello. I'm Dwayne. And I'm Lance.
00:30 And we like to welcome you to another episode of TKS,
00:32 a True Knowledge of Self, where get to know ourselves
00:35 from a biblical perspective.
00:37 I'd like to welcome you again.
00:38 And in this episode
00:39 we're going to be answering from God's word
00:42 the question as to whether or not music is truly neutral.
00:45 We've been looking at a lot of cultural phenomenon
00:47 and particularly focusing on hip-hop culture,
00:49 and we saw how this was being blended in
00:52 and kind of mingled both, inside the church
00:55 and outside of the church.
00:57 We've seen individuals who, in the industry
00:59 were professing Christianity, but we have--
01:02 saw that the contrasts between hip-hop culture
01:06 and biblical Christian culture do not mix.
01:10 And when they are forced together,
01:13 they never bear the right fruit.
01:16 And we're going to be looking at a lot of other instances
01:18 and principles from God's word that show us that very fact.
01:21 We also want to take some time to look at history,
01:23 and I want to review a clip
01:24 that we've shown in a previous episode
01:26 regarding the history of jazz music,
01:28 which was a precursor to hip-hop,
01:31 genre or rap music, and all the other kind of music genres
01:35 associated in the hip-hop culture.
01:36 For hip-hop culture, as a culture
01:38 is not just involving one particular musical genre,
01:43 it's a kind of a blending that embraces all musical genres.
01:46 It's really the form of expression
01:48 that makes it hip-hop or not.
01:50 So we looked at a clip
01:52 that showed us kind of a history lesson
01:55 and it was focused on the city of New Orleans.
01:57 Now in Pre-Civil War, America, New Orleans
02:01 was one of the primary melting pots in the world
02:04 for that matter because it was a major port for trade,
02:08 especially the slave trade.
02:09 So you had this kind of cross cultural mix,
02:13 where you had a society that had free blacks,
02:16 and slave blacks, those that are,
02:19 you know, biracial of varying degrees,
02:21 Creoles that were mixed of while white and black races.
02:25 You had slaves from the West Indies
02:28 coming into port and you had slaves
02:30 from the interior of America in the south.
02:33 All coming together in this area,
02:34 poor whites, rich whites and obviously,
02:38 as these different cultures come together,
02:41 there's different forms of music that come together.
02:43 And it was a very interesting phenomena as well
02:45 that was taking place in that area in New Orleans
02:49 where every Sunday you had a special Square,
02:53 a park, if you will that came to be known as Congo Square,
02:56 in which they allow the slaves
02:58 to practice their form of celebration, entertainment,
03:04 and you know, for all intents and purposes, worship.
03:07 And they were allowed to bring in their musical forms,
03:10 and their expression and dance,
03:12 and call and response, and different things.
03:15 And this eventually developed into forms of music
03:20 that we would be more familiar with.
03:23 One of the things that took place as history developed
03:27 was something called this minstrel culture,
03:30 minstrel show entertainment.
03:32 And the minstrel show was an instance
03:35 in which white actors and entertainers singers,
03:37 dancers, and like comedians would paint their faces black
03:42 and kind of promote the most degraded
03:45 and stereotypical forms of black culture.
03:48 And really, culturally speaking,
03:50 it's one of the first times
03:53 where you had a truly nationwide pop culture
03:57 in America.
03:58 And so for 80 years,
04:00 this was the number one form of entertainment in America
04:02 where you had these shows that would go on tours in the States
04:05 and travel around,
04:07 and whether it was a city or a rural area,
04:09 you began to have a kind of commonality
04:12 between people's taste for music
04:14 and the same jokes that they were hearing,
04:17 and the same kind of representations.
04:19 And so it developed into a very kind of twisted,
04:25 strange, eccentric form of degrading one society
04:30 for the entertainment of another.
04:32 And black actors and writers also participated in this
04:36 where they pretended to be white actors
04:37 putting on black face.
04:39 So it was a very strange kind of dialogue that took place.
04:42 But nevertheless,
04:43 it birthed a lot and set the stage
04:47 for traditional black entertainment,
04:50 where black entertainers
04:52 kind of had to become minstrel actors
04:55 in order to get recognition
04:58 and get play in the various venues.
05:01 So we saw another development
05:04 and Dwayne, as we start to look at this idea
05:07 of whether or not music is neutral,
05:09 when the kind of what became big band of music,
05:15 they call it, they started to call it Gumbo music.
05:17 And, you know, we can think,
05:19 you know, like when the saints come
05:20 marching in bands playing the brass bands,
05:24 that even developed further into something
05:26 that was called the Blues.
05:28 And it was articulated by certain jazz historians
05:31 and famous jazz musicians in their own right
05:33 that the Blues was pretty much a blending
05:37 of the a little bit of angel and a little bit of devil.
05:41 And these with their own words. These were their own words.
05:43 And so they took the sacred and the profane,
05:45 and the blending of that together
05:47 created this perfect Blues sound,
05:50 where the form of, you know, the black plight
05:53 was able to now be expressed through this profound music,
05:56 an improvisation in self-expression
05:58 and self-awareness,
06:00 and Blues as it was stated in the clip,
06:02 was the aquifer, it was stated, it was the aquifer
06:05 from which all streams of American music flowed.
06:08 So whether that be, you know, again, Blues, jazz,
06:12 RnB, swing, Bebop, Doo-wop, soul, funk,
06:17 you know, all these things that eventually became rock'n'roll
06:21 and you know, heavy metal, hip-hop music,
06:24 rap music, all of this came from really the same source--
06:26 That's right. In America.
06:28 And so that's not really a very debatable
06:31 because when we looked at the history
06:33 of how hip-hop develops in the Bronx,
06:35 in the '60s and '70s, we saw it was kind of the same thing.
06:39 It was a melting pot, a very depraved society
06:42 that was being affected by all the social change
06:46 and the social unrest, and the poverty,
06:48 and you had the mingling of the same cultures.
06:50 You had the Black American culture,
06:52 and you had the West Indian culture,
06:54 Latin American culture
06:55 that was all converging in this area,
06:57 and they came up with this new form of expression
07:00 through the break dancing and the aerosol writing
07:03 and the DJing and the emceeing that was almost similar,
07:08 in my estimation, it was extremely similar
07:11 to what you saw in New Orleans
07:12 there in Pre-Civil War era, America.
07:16 And so I think it's very significant to know
07:20 becausenow where we are, in modern America,
07:24 and we still have all of these genres present,
07:27 you know, Blues never went away,
07:29 jazz is still present.
07:31 RnB is still present, rock'n'roll is still present,
07:34 alternative music, all these other things
07:35 are still present, and the modern Christian,
07:38 the modern person
07:40 has to navigate through these things.
07:42 They have to deal with how we to interpret sacred
07:45 and profane, especially now in the church.
07:48 Is it okay to just listen to whatever kind of music
07:53 and you know, maybe just put godly lyrics to it
07:55 when we talk about holy "holy hip-hop",
07:58 put godly lyrics to something, no matter what kind of form,
08:01 and form of expression is coming
08:02 as long as the words are okay, that makes it okay,
08:05 or is there really a standard.
08:06 Is music neutral or is it not?
08:08 Well, this is an excellent question
08:10 and in order to answer it in a way,
08:12 at least from the Christian and biblical perspective,
08:14 we obviously have to go to the word.
08:16 Music, we should look at that first,
08:18 like why, what was in the mind of God
08:20 when He was giving music to His people.
08:23 The Bible makes it very clear, even in the Book of Job
08:25 that you know, the sons of God, they came together, they sang.
08:29 And you know, God believes in music.
08:30 I believe God is the author of music.
08:33 It talks about in Ezekiel 28, Lucifer, which is a good name,
08:36 Lucifer means light bearer or son of the morning.
08:39 And when God made Lucifer in Ezekiel 28,
08:42 it says he had pipes inside of him.
08:44 So that Lucifer was a very musical being.
08:46 God loves music and music is wonderful, the problem is,
08:49 is that of course, as Lucifer transitioned
08:53 from being a light bearer
08:54 to now becoming God's enemy and a slanderer,
08:58 this is how he earned the name Satan and the devil so on.
09:00 So number one, music is not bad.
09:03 Music is definitely not bad.
09:04 So we can't make an arbitrary statement
09:06 and just refrain from all forms of music?
09:07 Most definitely.
09:09 I mean, you know, it would be extremely anti
09:11 or extra biblical to say that music is bad,
09:14 we should stay away from all music.
09:15 What we have to do is like anything else.
09:17 You know, we have been studying the Bible,
09:19 we've been looking at the fact that
09:21 the same way God has a true culture,
09:22 Satan has counterfeit cultures,
09:24 God has true religion, Satan has counterfeit religion,
09:26 God has true church, Satan has counterfeit church.
09:30 God has true worship, Satan has counterfeit worship.
09:32 So it is God has true music, you know the concepts of music
09:35 and then Satan of course, will try to counter that as well.
09:39 So that, in essence,
09:40 again, we're talking about this perversion.
09:43 Changing that which is true into that which is not true.
09:45 So there can be a perversion even when it comes to music?
09:48 They definitely can, they definitely can.
09:50 And this is why,
09:52 what we can do is pull principles from the Bible
09:54 that can help guide us when it comes to:
09:57 how can I know if what I'm listening to
09:59 is something that is acceptable or not to the Lord?
10:02 So the first position that the Christian holds is that:
10:05 I will not do anything that displeases my God,
10:08 I will not do anything that will offend God.
10:12 I want to make sure that whatever I do
10:14 is to the glory of God,
10:15 as 1 Corinthians 10:31 admonishes us.
10:18 So the first thing I want to do
10:20 is look at how God even brought music to His people.
10:24 And this would take us back to the Old Testament
10:26 in 1 Chronicles 9.
10:28 And the Bible tells us something
10:30 I thought was very interesting.
10:31 In 1 Chronicles 9,
10:34 it's actually speaking about the priests,
10:37 it's speaking specifically, especially about the Levites.
10:41 And the Levites were men that held Holy Office
10:44 and they were individuals
10:45 that function in the capacity of the priesthood.
10:48 And the Bible says in 1 Chronicles 9:33,
10:51 talking about the Levites, it says,
10:53 "And these are the singers,
10:56 chief of the fathers of the Levites,
10:59 who remaining in the chambers were free,
11:01 for they were employed in that work day and night."
11:05 Literally, the Levites, part of their work
11:07 is that they were employed in the singing
11:09 and they actually lead out in this.
11:11 And it wasn't just singing because if you go
11:13 just a few pages over to 1 Chronicles 15,
11:16 you see that in verse 16,
11:19 David, he actually spoke to the Levites
11:20 and he gave instruction, and notice what it says,
11:22 and this is inspired instructions.
11:23 So it's really God giving instruction to the Levites.
11:26 It says, "And David spake to the chief of the Levites
11:30 to appoint their brethren to be the singers
11:33 with instruments of musick, psaltery
11:36 and harps and symbols sounding
11:39 by lifting up the voice with joy."
11:42 So that means that the Levites were instrumental,
11:44 not just in leading the people into singing,
11:48 but also in conducting the music
11:50 and making sure the music was done right.
11:52 God actually handed down heavenly music,
11:55 music that is birthed from the heart of God.
11:57 He handed it down when He established a people,
12:00 which was Israel, and He gave them music
12:03 but He gave it specifically to the Levites.
12:05 And the Levites were the leaders,
12:06 they were if you would call it the choir leaders,
12:08 you know, of the day.
12:10 And they were the ones that would lead the people
12:12 and instruct and guide.
12:13 While knowing this,
12:14 the Bible teaches something very important about Levites,
12:16 that's very key, it's in Deuteronomy 10.
12:19 So in Deuteronomy 10,
12:21 here's what the Bible says about the Levites.
12:23 And if only these things were understood,
12:25 we would understand that
12:27 you know, the Levites today, we would call them pastors,
12:30 you know, the pastors should be functioning
12:32 in a capacity that the Levites were functioning
12:35 in which is this.
12:36 It says in Deuteronomy 10:8,
12:39 "At that time the Lord separated the tribe of Levi,
12:43 to bear the Ark of the Covenant of the Lord,
12:45 to stand before the Lord to minister unto Him,
12:49 and to bless His name unto this day."
12:52 So when you think of the function of the Levite,
12:55 you're thinking of someone
12:56 who was called to minister unto the Lord.
12:59 There was someone to bless the name of the Lord.
13:01 They were to you know, to bring forth a wonderful,
13:04 beautiful, holy influence unto the people.
13:07 In a book called Desire of Ages,
13:09 which has an excellent commentary
13:10 on the life of Christ,
13:11 it states a powerful point in page 448,
13:14 paragraph 3, and it talks about the Levites here
13:17 that I think is noteworthy.
13:18 Is says, "With sacred song and thanksgiving
13:20 the worshipers celebrated this occasion.
13:23 A little before the feast was the Day of Atonement
13:26 when after confession of their sins
13:28 the people were declared to be at peace with heaven.
13:31 Thus, the way was prepared for the rejoicing of the feast.
13:34 'O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is good,
13:37 for His mercy endureth forever' (Psalms 106:1)
13:40 rose triumphantly, while all kinds of music
13:43 mingled with shouts of Hosanna accompanied the united singing.
13:48 The temple was the center of the universal joy.
13:52 Here was the pomp of the sacrificial ceremonies.
13:55 Here, range on either side of the white marble steps
13:59 of the sacred building,
14:00 the choir of Levites lead the service of song.
14:06 The multitude of worshippers
14:08 waving their branches of palm and myrtle
14:10 took up the strain and echoed the chorus,
14:13 and again the melody was caught up
14:14 by voices near and afar off,
14:16 till the encircling hills were vocal with praise."
14:20 So the Levites were the ones that held a responsibility
14:23 to make sure that the people were being led right,
14:26 as it relates to music and worship.
14:28 So it is that when we think of various leaders,
14:30 I highlighted pastors
14:32 but there are other leaders as well in the churches.
14:34 They're called that they can also lend a holy influence
14:38 when it comes to music.
14:40 So the first thing we can take from this is that
14:42 in the mind of God, when He gave music,
14:44 He gave it to a holy people, the priest,
14:47 and then it was to have a holy influence amongst the people.
14:51 So that is the first point
14:52 is that music in the mind of God
14:53 was supposed to be something
14:55 that had and gave a holy influence.
14:58 And God Himself is holy.
15:00 So that means that music was designed
15:02 not just to feel good, it was more than that.
15:05 God gave music that it would always somehow draw the mind
15:09 and draw the heart of the individual back to God
15:12 and back to God's heart.
15:14 So this is a very important point
15:15 when we think about, you know, music.
15:17 And the reason why this, I think is so important
15:19 especially for me, is because when I danced,
15:23 I first was dancing in the world,
15:24 I'm dancing with all the entertainers
15:26 and I'm going on tours and everything.
15:28 When I got out of hip-hop, dancing
15:31 and dancing with all these artists,
15:33 and it was because of Christ, it was for nothing else.
15:35 I just wanted to follow the Lord
15:37 and I wanted to honor him.
15:38 Well, I decided,
15:40 well, let me try to do hip-hop gospel dancing.
15:42 So we would take every hip-hop artist
15:44 that said anything about God, and we would take the beats,
15:48 the same beats, the same hip-hop beats
15:49 so it's the exact same music.
15:52 But what we would do is if you know, one group said,
15:54 "I praise the Lord and keep the faith,"
15:56 or somebody said, "Let the church say, amen."
15:59 You know, anything that a hip-hop artist would say,
16:01 we would just have a DJ kind of cut those parts in
16:03 and now you had a beat, same hip-hop beat,
16:06 same hip-hop music, everything but it just had some,
16:09 "I praise the Lord, I praise the Lord,
16:11 let's let the church say amen," etc.
16:13 We started going to all sorts of colleges
16:16 and churches and we started to dance,
16:18 me and my friends, we started to dance.
16:21 And we danced and something I noticed
16:23 that I just could not ignore.
16:26 As we would dance, people were clapping,
16:30 cheering, praising us, not God.
16:33 When we were finished dancing,
16:35 girls would still give their phone numbers
16:37 and talking about they want to have sex with us,
16:38 and do all these things.
16:39 I mean, every single thing that was happening in the club,
16:43 everything that was happening in the world,
16:46 the same things was happening in our hip-hop gospel concerts.
16:49 It was like people were,
16:50 it was not lifting the thoughts to heaven
16:53 and causing holy thoughts,
16:55 which should lead to a refraining of fornication,
16:58 cussing, swearing et cetera,
16:59 but it was more so drawing us to it.
17:01 There wasn't a change.
17:02 It was literally like just bringing the world
17:04 into the church.
17:05 I had a very similar experience,
17:07 you know, from the emceeing standpoint
17:08 is when I came out of the world,
17:11 I embraced the gospel, came into the church,
17:14 and I had literally kind of quit cold-turkey,
17:18 I quit emceeing just as I had quit smoking and drinking.
17:23 I understood that it was something that didn't mix
17:26 with what I was getting ready to commit my life to.
17:28 That's right.
17:30 But when I came into the church,
17:31 I met individuals in the church that were rhyming
17:35 and emceeing, and still kind of embracing hip-hop culture
17:37 and I said, well, they grew up in this
17:40 or they've been in this so I guess, it's okay.
17:42 And they were kind of rationalizing
17:43 and somehow howl, no, no, it's okay,
17:45 it's just you just got to change the words, you know.
17:47 So I literally said, "Man, that's easy,
17:49 that's a easy assignment.
17:50 So all you saying is I just got to put religious lyrics?
17:54 "So I literally went back to my DJ, my producer,
17:58 who I already told that I quit, I'm out,
18:00 you know, it was nothing, and we were getting ready
18:02 to move to the next stage
18:04 you know, professionalism and really,
18:06 so my stuff was already getting shopped around.
18:09 And he was very upset that I was stepping away like this.
18:13 And so when I called him up and said, "Hey, man,
18:14 I got a solution, I heard that this is going to be right
18:16 and we're going to keep it moving."
18:18 So I use the same music, the same production.
18:21 All I did was, I took all of my existing set,
18:24 you know, all of my existing songs.
18:26 I saw where I could change
18:28 'cause I was already a conscious, you know, MC.
18:30 So I didn't you know,
18:31 curse a lot in my rhymes or anything like that,
18:34 so I made a couple of adjustments,
18:36 you know, in area where I said,
18:38 you know, were I was cursing the church,
18:41 I would then just, you know, adjust in a little bit
18:44 and make simple adjustments.
18:46 And then I wrote a whole new set of songs
18:48 with the same production
18:50 and it was now this gospel focus,
18:52 you know, Three Angels' Messages,
18:54 Prophecy, Revelation all this stuff.
18:56 And I did, I went to do a show.
19:00 I went to do a show and, you know, it was got a,
19:04 there was a promoter that I had worked with before
19:09 that wanted me to come out and do the show.
19:10 So I come out and to do the show
19:11 and I'm not the only performer, there's a DJ
19:14 and there's other performers.
19:16 So I have my set at a certain time.
19:17 I brought with me two other Christian brothers to the show.
19:21 Another brother when I was working with emceeing
19:23 and another former, you know, hip-hop head
19:28 and now another individual who's preaching today.
19:32 But we wanted to wait outside until the time of the set came
19:36 because we didn't want to go in there
19:38 and mingle inside the club and all that.
19:40 So we waited outside, you know, like good Christians
19:42 and waited for our turn and the time came
19:45 when it was time to go do the set.
19:46 So we went to the door, prayed outside,
19:49 you know, for Lord's blessing.
19:51 And then we went inside, we got our wristbands,
19:53 we went to the bar and we just got water,
19:55 you know, people look at as funny.
19:57 And then we went up, did our set.
19:59 And when we did a set
20:00 something very strange happened,
20:02 something very revolutionary for me happened.
20:05 I'm going through, it's I think it was about
20:06 like maybe a 15 minute set, so it was pretty full.
20:10 So we're going through and you know,
20:12 normally when you're emceeing, you're have a different,
20:14 all these kind of different scenarios that happen
20:16 when you're in a club or in a little concert hall,
20:19 where you have a group that comes to the front
20:21 and they're really listening, you know, they are kind of,
20:24 you know, joining with the, with the stage show
20:27 and they're really focused
20:28 and really listening to the experience.
20:30 And then there are some people
20:31 that might be out there talking,
20:32 some people out there at the bar,
20:34 there might be some people on the dance floor,
20:35 some people doing different things in different areas.
20:37 And as I'm going through the set
20:39 and you have that kind of pit in the front,
20:41 and then I look off in the distance
20:42 and as I was preaching the gospel in my mind,
20:45 I see a girl, you know, and a guy dancing.
20:50 You know and this girl is dancing in a way
20:52 that has nothing to do
20:54 with the Bible and Christianity.
20:55 She's dancing just like we we're in the world.
20:57 And she's dancing to my song. That's right. Yup.
21:00 She's dancing to my song and my lyrics
21:03 while I am talk about giving your heart to the Lord
21:04 and prophecy and things coming upon the earth,
21:07 and the second coming of Christ.
21:08 And she's dancing to my song
21:10 just like she would to any other song.
21:12 And when that, when I saw that
21:14 and I'm performing at the same time,
21:16 I never stopped, but a voice came in my head
21:19 and said, "Son, this does not mix."
21:23 It's not just about the words that you're speaking,
21:27 it's also about the music, the music does matter.
21:30 And from that point forward I had to quit,
21:32 you know, I had to walk away because I saw
21:35 that if I continue going then that track
21:36 I'm going to be converted to it versus me
21:39 converting others to the gospel.
21:41 And that is the consistent issue,
21:42 is really and truly what is going on in your heart,
21:46 what is going on in your mind?
21:47 When you play your music, is it causing the mind
21:50 to dwell more upon Christ, His crucifixion,
21:54 His resurrection, His working in heaven
21:58 on our behalf that we may be like Him?
22:00 Is it promoting character development?
22:02 Is it helping us
22:04 want to be more separated from sin and the world,
22:08 or is it drawing us closer to the things of the world?
22:11 Does it allow me to be a reflection
22:13 of the character of God before others,
22:14 or does it cause me to be more of a reflection
22:16 of the world before others?
22:18 These are all the things that we need to consider
22:20 when we're embracing these forms of music.
22:22 As an example, if you look in the Bible
22:24 when it talks about those who come to Christ
22:25 in Psalms 40:3, it says,
22:29 "He hath put a new song in my mouth,
22:32 even praise unto our God: Many shall see it and fear,
22:36 and shall trust in the Lord."
22:38 So notice, it's a new song.
22:40 You know, this thing about playing things
22:44 that sound exactly like what we listen to in the world,
22:48 it doesn't work.
22:49 I remember there was a song called 'Between the Sheets,'
22:51 and it was a song totally and completely about,
22:54 you know, fornication.
22:56 And I remember listening to a prominent gospel singer
22:59 and he actually took the same exact lyric
23:01 from 'Between the Sheets,'
23:03 and started to add this to his gospel song.
23:05 And I know in my mind it went easy
23:07 because I was like, I know that song and immediately
23:09 I knew everything connected to that song,
23:11 even my own personal experiences.
23:13 So my mind was not ascending into a holy place,
23:16 it was not thinking of holy things,
23:18 it was more so deviating from that
23:20 going back to the world
23:21 and all the reminiscent things of the world.
23:24 This is not what Christ wants.
23:25 And that's why I believe God was offended
23:27 when the minister would literally tell the people,
23:30 remember, before you were Christians,
23:33 when you were unconverted,
23:34 when you were a worldly sinners,
23:35 I'm going to play the music that you love to listen to
23:38 and practice into when you were a sinner.
23:41 And I'm doing this in the name of fun.
23:42 This is blasphemy.
23:44 These are things that are offensive to God,
23:46 when we have a minute to think about it
23:48 and not allow the music to control our feelings.
23:51 The Bible also says in the book of Colossians 3:16
23:56 "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom,
24:00 teaching and admonishing one another
24:02 in psalms and hymns, and spiritual songs,
24:06 singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord."
24:10 So notice, the words of Christ are to dwell in us richly
24:14 and those words of Christ are to admonish us or teach us
24:18 and enable as to teach and admonish others
24:21 in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs.
24:23 So again, God is not against the music
24:24 but it's what kind of music, what kind of singing.
24:28 Now we've been looking at you know,
24:30 songs and lyrics here just a little bit,
24:32 but now I'd like to just focus just briefly
24:35 as it relates to the music.
24:37 When I listen to music is it a genre.
24:40 And you know, we can't recommend
24:41 any specific genre to say,
24:43 listen to this genre, it's all okay.
24:45 Right. There's no sacred genre.
24:47 There is no sacred genre,
24:48 even though we can see a lot of fairly,
24:50 you know, unsacred genres,
24:52 which is interesting.
24:53 But nevertheless, are there some principles
24:55 that we can take with us
24:57 when it comes to listening to music
24:58 and what kind of influence is it having on me
25:01 when I'm listening to it?
25:03 You remember we did a study where we talked about
25:06 do all things to the glory of God
25:07 and the glory of God is God's character?
25:10 Well, hear are some characteristics of God
25:11 that we can consider.
25:13 In 1 John 3:2-3, the Bible declares that God is pure.
25:19 Whatever music I listen to,
25:21 it must help my mind to maintain in a pure state.
25:25 I must have pure thoughts.
25:27 It should help promote pure thoughts.
25:29 As I stated, if I'm listening to music
25:32 that takes my mind back to impure thoughts,
25:34 I can look at and say that music can't be of God
25:36 because that's not what God wants.
25:38 He doesn't want me to dwell in the things of the world,
25:40 He wants me to dwell on the things of holiness
25:42 and righteousness.
25:43 Again, the Bible also says in John 3:33
25:47 that "God is true."
25:49 So whatever music I listen to,
25:52 it should help promote the truth
25:54 of what God wants for our lives and not to push me in a path
25:57 or an experience that can take me down a path of error.
26:00 Music is a mood response mechanism.
26:03 Music can cause fear,
26:05 that's why movie theaters and all these guys,
26:07 you know, they know how to play certain forms of music
26:08 to make you afraid.
26:10 Yeah, it's a psychology of music.
26:11 It is a psychology.
26:12 But God makes it clear, there's no fear in love.
26:14 "Perfect love casts out fear," right?
26:16 That's 1 John 4: 18.
26:17 So when I listen to music,
26:19 it is should not put me in a state of fear,
26:20 perplexity, anxiety or violence.
26:23 That music should keep me in a state of peace.
26:26 In fact, 1 Corinthians 14:33, it says God is a God of peace.
26:31 Whatever music I listen to,
26:32 it shouldn't cause my heart to go into rapid palpitations
26:35 and cause the brain waves of my mind to lose its ability
26:39 that I can't have good cognitive function
26:41 that I can't think straight and reason straight.
26:44 These are principles that God gives us from His word
26:46 that ought to guide us.
26:48 And as long as we stick to these principles,
26:50 and there's plenty more that we can study in scripture,
26:53 God will lead us to know when a song is good
26:57 versus a song being bad.
26:59 There's a lot more that we could pull out
27:00 from scripture, but it as usual, you know,
27:02 I know our time is limited and friends,
27:04 we are grateful that God does provide answers.
27:09 He does provide solutions for us.
27:11 What we have to do is we have to search.
27:13 We got to dig deep, we have to let God speak,
27:16 and let the rest of the world remain silent.
27:18 And as we do this,
27:19 I believe that God will bless us
27:21 beyond our expectations.
27:23 It is true that there are lots of scientists
27:25 and musicians who have studied all sorts of things
27:27 and they try to endorse what God condemns.
27:30 And this is why the Bible even speaks
27:32 of something called science falsely so-called.
27:35 So science never validates the Bible,
27:37 but Bible always validates science.
27:40 And as long as we maintain being people of the book,
27:44 God will bless us
27:45 when we are seeking to know truth,
27:47 because God has promised us,
27:48 if we are seeking truth we shall find it.
27:51 For the Bible says, "Seek, and you shall find."
27:54 We are really grateful that you have joined us
27:55 for this episode and we're just praying
27:57 that as you get ready to enjoy the blessings of the Lord,
28:00 remember Proverbs 2:6,
28:02 which tells us the "Lord gives us wisdom
28:04 and out of His mouth comes knowledge and understanding."
28:07 God bless you.