Participants: Aaron Chancy (Host), Paula Hollmon
Series Code: TNJ
Program Code: TNJ000012
00:01 The following program discuses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material
00:05 may be too candid for younger children.
00:10 Welcome to "The New Journey,"
00:12 the program where we meet real life people,
00:14 with real life testimonies,
00:16 with real life working ministries for Jesus.
00:18 Today we'll delve into our program with Ms. Paula Hollmon.
00:21 On our last program with Ms. Hollmon, we learned about
00:23 job readiness and being prepared for the outside world
00:26 when released from jail or prison.
00:29 Today we want to get even more practical
00:31 and talk about the dress code when looking for a job
00:33 and how to carry yourself on a day to day basis.
00:36 I'm your host Aaron Chancy.
00:37 Come join us on "The New Journey."
01:08 Welcome back to "The New Journey."
01:09 Today, we have an exciting, exciting program
01:12 with Miss Paula Hollmon.
01:13 Thank you for being on the show Ms. Paula Hollmon.
01:14 Thank you for having me back.
01:15 All right, amen.
01:17 Now we did a previous program where you were on
01:19 and you talked about your organization.
01:21 What exactly is your organization?
01:24 And can you provide some information, what it does?
01:26 Absolutely, JAS4YOU Development Foundation
01:29 is a life skills community training
01:31 and development service.
01:33 We provide services for people who are looking for employment
01:37 and who need to beef up their skills at.
01:40 And we also provide referral programs to anyone
01:44 that comes to our organization for help.
01:47 Now many men, many viewers may have not seen the previous show
01:52 and we talked on there about job readiness.
01:55 We talked about job placement assistance.
01:57 We talked about prisoner re-entry initiative program
02:00 and we talked about referral programs.
02:02 All of these programs are very important, aren't they?
02:04 They are absolutely important. Okay.
02:06 Now we talked also about how when people seem
02:09 to follow these steps in this program,
02:12 they probably have better success rate
02:14 of making in out in society, is that correct?
02:16 Absolutely because they also learn
02:18 how to discover and investigate.
02:20 Okay, okay. Along the way.
02:22 Okay, that's great.
02:23 Now, what I want to move into is some new information.
02:26 People may have seen that old information,
02:28 we want to move into some new information.
02:30 Now in the job readiness there is some core topics.
02:33 We want to talk a little bit about these core topics.
02:35 The first one being ''Goal setting and Perseverance.''
02:38 Goal setting and Perseverance
02:40 comes out the way you interview,
02:43 those characteristics come out in your interview.
02:47 They give you a sense of positiveness,
02:49 when you're talking to anyone who is trying to interview you.
02:54 So these are very important skills and they're fundamental
02:57 in the baseline for being successful
02:59 for a job or anything.
03:01 Okay. Okay.
03:02 Also in the core topics is "Resume Preparation."
03:05 Right. Resume Preparation is extremely important.
03:10 Because we live in a society where you're not actually
03:14 going to a manager and handing them your application...
03:18 Resume preparation is critical. Okay.
03:21 So not only do you want to list your job duties,
03:24 you also want to list how effective you were
03:27 in those various positions that you held.
03:31 One of the key things are called Key Words.
03:34 Key Words are words that the hiring manager
03:37 tells the computer to look for.
03:40 For example, if I am hiring someone
03:43 who I want them to type 80 wpm
03:46 and I tell the computer to find anyone...
03:52 who has typed 80 wpm and send their resume to me.
03:57 So the computer will turnaround and if you have 60 wpm,
04:01 the manger will never ever, ever see your resume.
04:04 So key words are important
04:06 and the way you find those key words
04:08 are built into the job description
04:10 that the hiring manger has the job opening for.
04:14 Now as a little side note I want to do this.
04:17 You know many times when people are filling out
04:19 job applications or trying to fill out a resume,
04:22 you know they always want
04:24 what some of the previous jobs that you've held.
04:26 How is it, is it important to stay at one job
04:30 for a long time?
04:31 Case in point, I've tried to go for job interviews
04:34 many a different times years ago,
04:36 and I will put on there
04:38 okay, I've only worked at this job three months,
04:40 only worked at this job for a month.
04:42 I'd never really worked at a job
04:43 longer than three months.
04:44 How hard is to get a job if you only stay at a job
04:48 may be one month, two months, three months?
04:51 But people don't see that consistency
04:52 in your work pattern.
04:54 It's all in your resume and how you build your resume.
04:58 Say for instance, I was on the job for 18 years
05:01 but I didn't do the same job.
05:03 So you have to take those skill sets
05:05 and kind of merge them together.
05:07 But what you're actually trying to do for your case,
05:10 where you've only been three months,
05:12 then you need to just pull out the skills that you learned.
05:15 And how effective and productive you were
05:17 doing those skills.
05:19 Okay, thank you so much.
05:20 Another core topic is "Interviewing Techniques."
05:22 Okay, interviewing techniques are absolutely critical.
05:27 Non verbal and verbal communication
05:29 comes out in your interviewing technique.
05:31 That's true.
05:32 Any interviewer is able to look at you
05:34 and tell whether or not you're self-confident.
05:37 By how you respond with your hands and with your body.
05:40 So you have to be consciously aware of that
05:43 and we go through several scenarios
05:45 in our workshops about that.
05:47 Now let's say that you are an employer
05:50 and I am an applicant, I'm coming to get a job,
05:53 you know, I come dressed fairly nice
05:55 and if I come in your office and I sit down in a seat
05:59 and I start slouching, I start slouching down in my seat
06:02 and, you know, twirling my fingers and things like that.
06:04 What kind of aura does that let off to people?
06:08 Well, it shows a sense of self--
06:10 that you don't have self-confidence.
06:12 And when I'm talking to you because I've rendered the feud
06:15 for so many years.
06:17 I can immediately tell, if you're telling the truth.
06:20 If you cross your legs, if you start tapping your thigh...
06:24 So you're reading body language?
06:25 If you do not look into my eyes,
06:27 if you start looking up, all of those things
06:29 are critical things that employers look for.
06:32 Okay, so it's important to come to a job,
06:34 sit up straight in your seat,
06:36 it's important to look the person
06:38 that you're interviewing with directly in the eye.
06:41 It's important even to talk clearly, to speak clearly.
06:44 You know, you have so many people that come for interview.
06:46 And you know they come talking
06:48 like they are talking to their friend down the street,
06:50 which that's not, that's not going to do, is it?
06:52 Right, it's not appropriate. Okay.
06:54 Nor does it show, it does not show your professionalism.
06:57 I suggest to people get in the mirror and start talking...
07:01 Practice it. To yourself. Absolutely.
07:02 Okay, that's a good practice, good practice.
07:04 Also in your core topics
07:06 you have standard interview question, what is that?
07:08 Okay, there are-- there is a difference,
07:10 there is a standard interview
07:12 and there is a structured interview.
07:14 A standard interview is normally a one-on-one
07:17 between the applicant and the hiring manager.
07:20 A structured interview may have
07:23 three or four people asking questions.
07:26 And there are normally people, you have the hiring manager,
07:30 then you'll have another manger from that organization
07:34 you may have a human resources representative
07:38 and so you walk into the office going for your interview
07:42 thinking you're gonna interview one-on-one
07:45 and then you're looking,
07:47 and it's a panel.
07:48 And it's just absolutely horrifying
07:51 if you're not accustomed to it
07:53 or if you don't know anything about it.
07:55 So we talk about that. Okay.
07:56 How can a person adjust to that?
07:58 If they're expecting to come into a interview
08:00 and they're expecting one-on-one and they walk in
08:04 and their mouth drops to the floor
08:06 because there's four or five people there.
08:07 It's almost like a panel discussion.
08:09 What can a person do?
08:11 You need to take a deep breath because it's gonna show...
08:16 and then the questions are structured to the point
08:18 where they give you a example they'll say,
08:21 tell me a time when you were effective doing this?
08:25 Or tell me a time when you did not do something
08:28 that you were supposed to do?
08:30 So they're very structured and they give points.
08:34 Everybody is writing points.
08:36 So what you need to do is take a deep breath
08:38 and if you basically have practice
08:41 and you know exactly what you're gonna say,
08:44 not a problem.
08:45 It should be okay. Not a problem.
08:46 Okay, okay great.
08:47 How about, also in the core topics
08:49 you have something entitled Communication Skills?
08:51 Okay, it's very critical
08:54 when you're interviewing to have a volume,
08:57 a set volume in your voice,
09:00 not to look up around and not to be afraid.
09:03 Have a absolute great handshake.
09:06 If you come into my office and I'm interviewing you
09:09 and I say my name is Paula Hollmon,
09:12 then you address me as Miss Hollmon.
09:14 If I say to you I'm Dr. Hollmon,
09:16 then you address me as Dr. Hollmon.
09:19 It's very important that you have questions.
09:22 For the interviewer, the person that's interviewing you
09:25 the only way you're gonna have questions
09:26 is that you review the website.
09:29 And know what that company is about,
09:31 have a feel what that company is about.
09:35 So it requires work to even get a job.
09:37 There you go. Okay.
09:38 Also in the core topics you talk about
09:40 on-site customized workshops.
09:43 Our organization provides on-site customized workshops
09:47 and basically what they are, if you are an organization
09:51 and you're dealing with people
09:52 who are coming off a substance abuse
09:55 and drugs and they need to find a job.
09:57 You would call me and I would look at the people
10:00 that you are servicing, your organization is servicing.
10:04 And I would customize a workshop for you
10:07 specifically for your clients and we go to your organization.
10:12 And provide the services there.
10:14 Okay, it sounds like a very great program,
10:16 very great program.
10:17 Now if somebody wanted to build
10:19 their own organization like this,
10:21 what can a person do, what steps do they need to take
10:24 to even build this organization?
10:26 You built the JAS4YOU Organization.
10:28 What can a person do, even using your own self
10:31 as an example, what can a person do
10:32 to build an organization like this?
10:34 I think you have to have a desire.
10:36 You have to have a passion.
10:38 Whatever you have a passion for is what you go after.
10:41 There is nothing under the sun that hasn't been done.
10:44 So go on that internet, look and see
10:48 what other organizations are doing the same thing
10:51 and then create your style to that
10:54 and you build a model and infrastructure through that.
10:58 You know I want to talk about based upon certain crime,
11:02 what should a person look for?
11:03 And I want to do that by starting
11:05 with a particular story.
11:06 You know, I remember when I was about I think 17, 18 years old.
11:10 I was 18 years old
11:12 and I went to a home depot in Dallas, Texas
11:15 to try to get a job.
11:16 Good job paying $10 an hour.
11:18 You know, I thought this was great.
11:20 I filled out the application and as I was going there,
11:23 I actually got called back for an interview,
11:25 you know, which is great news.
11:26 Here I'm 18 years old, they're paying $10 an hour.
11:28 I thought that was, you know, great news.
11:30 Since I've been used to or accustomed to
11:32 working in like fast food places,
11:34 you know minimum wage $5 an hour things like that.
11:37 I said that was great.
11:38 Now one thing about it is,
11:41 you know, on my application it asked,
11:43 had you been convicted of a crime
11:44 within the last seven years?
11:46 Now on that I put, will explain in interview, okay.
11:50 So I kind of learned throughout the years not to put
11:53 yes, I've been convicted of
11:54 such and such, such and such.
11:55 Because people tend to say, well, you know what,
11:57 I'm not even going to hired him
11:59 without them talking to you to see what you're about.
12:01 So anyhow I went for this particular interview, excited.
12:05 And as I was talking to the, to the manager about the job,
12:08 he told me something important, when we got to the,
12:11 got to the section about the crime.
12:13 I began to explain to him what it was,
12:16 you know what degree it was, what kind of crime I committed,
12:19 how much time I served.
12:20 And, you know, he said because your crime involves
12:24 stealing something.
12:25 It was breaking, dealing with breaking in the homes,
12:27 we can't hire you for this job.
12:29 You know we're working with different things
12:31 that you could steal at anytime.
12:33 And he said, you know what?
12:34 You cannot work here, we can't hire you here.
12:37 But he did say something else.
12:38 He said, you know what?
12:40 Though you have that crime if you had a drug charge,
12:43 we could hire you, if you had a drug charge.
12:46 And I thought to myself, well, you know what?
12:48 May be I should go out there and sell drugs
12:49 and catch a drug charge,
12:50 may be I have a better chance to getting a job,
12:53 which you know, that's not good either.
12:55 So I want to know is there certain kinds of jobs
12:58 which are based upon a person's crime,
13:01 it's best not to look for?
13:03 Oh, absolutely. Okay.
13:05 Just by the mere fact that you have a felony.
13:08 There're certain companies
13:09 that you will not be able to work for.
13:12 And you need to know those companies,
13:14 but there're also felony friendly organizations
13:18 that hire people and it's, of course it's a challenge,
13:22 but you should always tell the truth.
13:25 I think you should be truthful because the company,
13:28 the perspective company is spending money
13:31 and they're trusting you
13:32 as well as you're trusting them to pay you.
13:35 So I think that you should always be honest,
13:38 but there will be road blocks there
13:40 that you just have to open up.
13:42 And that's where that determination and perseverance
13:43 plays such a big key.
13:45 Because something like that which I thought
13:46 was a fantastic job, you know $10 an hour.
13:49 But he told me no. Right.
13:51 That's the road block right there.
13:52 Now, what I have to do is say,
13:54 either I'm going to get discouraged by this road block
13:57 and, you know, I just go out there
13:58 and commit another crime whatever it maybe.
14:00 Or I could say, you know what?
14:02 You know, I can go out there and find another job.
14:04 Just be determined and I may need to just work fast food
14:07 for a while until I find something else.
14:09 Now you said something important,
14:10 you said felony friendly jobs.
14:13 How does a person find a felony friendly job?
14:16 What do you do?
14:17 You go on the website and type in felony friendly jobs.
14:21 Hey, that's pretty easy.
14:22 At your local, whatever town you're in
14:24 and there will be some hits on that.
14:27 Okay, okay.
14:29 I want to tell another story because you now this is so key
14:32 in filling out the application.
14:33 I remember getting another job, actually getting this job
14:37 this time in Dallas, Texas.
14:39 And it was a job working with a moving company.
14:41 Great excellent job, never had anything like that.
14:44 And, you know, when we filled up the application,
14:48 I didn't put any information there with the crime.
14:50 I put my social security number,
14:52 my name, all that kind of information.
14:54 And I was working for a few days.
14:56 Great excellent job, going to houses locally in Dallas,
14:59 moving them out, and moving them to wherever they were
15:01 gonna go in a local area.
15:03 Excellent job, paid well, paid every week things like that.
15:06 But something happened.
15:07 And you know the but, it cancels out everything else
15:09 that I just said before.
15:11 So something happened and what happened was
15:14 is that corporate did a background check on me,
15:17 they did a background check
15:18 and you know what actually I made a mistake.
15:19 I did put on there
15:21 that I had never been convicted of a crime.
15:22 I had lied on my application.
15:24 I put no, never been convicted.
15:26 Corporate did a background check on me
15:29 and it came back and it said he's been convicted of a felony
15:32 and blah, blah, blah.
15:33 It gave the information about the felony
15:35 and you know what they told me,
15:36 they said you know what, you're fired.
15:38 Simple and plain. Couldn't keep me there.
15:40 So how important is it for a person
15:43 to tell the truth on their application?
15:46 I think it's extremely important
15:48 because it deals with your integrity,
15:51 who you are as an individual.
15:53 Okay, what if a person has no integrity?
15:55 Then that's an issue. That's a big issue.
15:57 That's a huge issue and they need to go
16:00 to those types of classes that can help them.
16:03 Because there are expungement classes
16:06 that you can go to
16:07 and they'll tell you the seriousness
16:09 of telling a lie on an application.
16:12 Because nowadays most companies will do
16:14 some type of background check.
16:16 Okay, and you know the interesting thing about it
16:18 is you may lie on that application,
16:20 you may get that job for few days,
16:22 but then they turnaround and fire you
16:24 and then what happens next when you go fill out
16:26 a job application again for another job,
16:29 it's gonna say on there, have you ever been fired from a job?
16:32 Have you ever, you know, where have you worked at?
16:34 And then you have to make that decision again.
16:37 Am I gonna lie or am I gonna tell the truth.
16:39 So you could end up right back in the jam again.
16:41 So it's important to tell the truth, right off the bat.
16:44 Now, what I want to do is talk about the importance
16:46 of how to dress for certain jobs.
16:49 This is very, very key. Okay.
16:51 You know, I know for myself
16:52 a lot of jobs that I used to get fast food.
16:55 I would just pretty much come in there, you know,
16:57 some jeans and you know they would be sagging way down.
17:00 I would have a big O shirt that probably about
17:02 two or three people could get in.
17:04 I've had a hat backwards or something like that.
17:07 In fact I remember going to a job
17:10 at a fast food restaurant,
17:11 trying to get a job and I had long hair at that time,
17:14 I had braids and I had beer bottle tops
17:17 smashed on to the back of my hair
17:19 so where my hair dangle there instead of beads
17:21 I had beer bottle tops.
17:23 And this is how I went to try to have a interview at a job.
17:26 I actually got hired at the job, but that's not good.
17:29 That's not good at all.
17:30 So how important is it for a person to dress,
17:33 dress appropriate for the job they're going for?
17:36 I think anytime you go for position
17:39 you should dress appropriately.
17:42 Say for instance if you go to McDonalds,
17:44 the manager probably doesn't have a suit jacket on
17:47 but he has a business shirt.
17:50 You should wear the same thing.
17:52 Okay, okay.
17:53 Because your manger may not be, may hire you for one job
17:57 but he is looking at your potential.
17:59 What you could be, how can you fit in my organization
18:03 and how determined and successful you are?
18:06 So I think it's critical no matter what job you go to.
18:09 I think that you absolutely need to dress the part now
18:13 if you go into an organization or say you want to be
18:18 a tattoo receptionist where they do tattoos,
18:21 then you can wear spiky hair
18:23 and tattoos and...
18:24 That's appropriate for that. It's appropriate for that.
18:26 But I think most of it is that you go into an organization
18:31 or a corporation dressed as professionally as possible.
18:34 So pretty much what you're looking for, you need to--
18:37 kind of do a little research maybe on,
18:40 you know, based upon what you're looking for?
18:41 How should I dress for that?
18:42 Because you made an important point, you know,
18:44 in going to a tattoo parlor to get a job,
18:47 you may have the skills and you know
18:50 you maybe able to go in there showing tattoos off
18:52 on your body, going there with some raggedy shorts,
18:54 raggedy shirt, different things like that
18:56 and actually get that job.
18:57 You may go in there with a suit and tie
18:59 and they're gonna look at you like you are
19:01 a square or something.
19:02 And you can't work here. Right.
19:03 So it's very important to know to even do that research
19:07 to know how you should dress for a particular job.
19:10 Now for a corporate type job, first of all
19:13 what is a corporate type job for people
19:15 that may not know that are oblivious to this fact?
19:17 What exactly is a corporate job?
19:19 In my opinion every job is a corporation.
19:23 Even your churches, you have, that's a part of a corporation,
19:27 it's a business.
19:28 And so when you look at it from a business perspective,
19:32 you should dress appropriately.
19:34 There are some corporations that have a laidback policy
19:39 then on Fridays you can wear jeans.
19:41 But you should not be going in the interview with that.
19:44 Just basically you don't have to have expensive clothes.
19:48 Have clean clothes and look presentable
19:50 and know how to carry yourself,
19:52 because it's not just the clothes, it's you,
19:55 it's your personality, it's your perseverance,
19:58 it's your confidence in who you are as an individual.
20:01 Now even on a day to day basis, I may not even look,
20:03 be looking for a job.
20:04 But, you know, a lot of times people are judged
20:06 by what they have on.
20:08 If a person is dressed, I guess you would say "like a thug"
20:11 then people will say, okay, he is identified as that.
20:14 If he is dressed in a suit, he looks businessy,
20:17 you know they'd address him as that.
20:19 So we're kind of judged by the way that we dress.
20:22 On a day to basis, how important it is,
20:24 how important is it to keep up
20:26 that look of confidence in your dress?
20:28 To me the nucleus of who you are
20:31 is your self-confidence.
20:32 It's your self-esteem, it doesn't show up momentarily
20:37 it's who you are as an individual.
20:39 And I think based on that,
20:41 the stronger your self-esteem is
20:43 you automatically present yourself
20:45 in a certain way at all times.
20:48 It's not a part time thing.
20:49 Okay, it's a full time thing.
20:51 And, you know, the beauty of it is we're worth so much simply
20:54 because Jesus died on the cross for us.
20:56 So we're worth so much so we should,
20:57 we should even carry that,
20:59 you know, with us on a day to day basis.
21:01 Now, how important is it for a person to,
21:04 you know, that definitely has limited education?
21:07 How important is it to perhaps even look,
21:09 look into going back to school?
21:11 May be a community college or may be a four year college
21:14 or may be even getting in the trade.
21:16 How important is it for a person to do that?
21:19 I think it's very important,
21:21 I think because I have a can do attitude.
21:24 Actually I got my master's degree
21:28 when I was well over 45.
21:30 Wow. Well over 45.
21:31 So you're about to tell your age.
21:32 That's okay, that's okay.
21:35 But the point is this how determined are you.
21:39 It all deals with your self-esteem,
21:42 where you want to go,
21:43 what's your solution action plan.
21:45 Do you have a plan?
21:46 If you don't have a plan, find a plan.
21:49 If you don't have a dream, dream a dream.
21:52 Yeah, dream a dream.
21:53 Absolutely, absolutely.
21:54 Now in today's society, you know, the market,
21:58 the job market is pretty bad.
22:00 You know is it good to, to get a trade?
22:03 You know that way you can pretty much work for yourself,
22:06 you don't have to worry about looking for a job,
22:09 is it better to may be even just get a trade,
22:12 that way you can work for yourself.
22:13 You can hire employees per se that are,
22:16 you know, don't fit in regular society.
22:19 But, you know, need a job and you might have been
22:22 able to identify with them before.
22:24 Is it good to look into going to trade school?
22:27 I think it's good to go into a trade that you love.
22:31 I think that if you're a part of a church
22:34 or an organization there are people
22:36 who are successful in your churches,
22:38 in your organization, talk to them.
22:41 Find out what they do.
22:43 And if that's something that you desire to do,
22:46 ask them would they kind of mentor you through...
22:48 Yeah, so that you can learn it some.
22:50 Exactly what you need.
22:52 I think the opportunities come everyday.
22:55 Yeah, they do. They're always there.
22:56 But you have to be able to have insight to know
22:59 when opportunity is sitting there.
23:02 As long as you're dealing with people,
23:03 if you want to be a gardener, you, most people have gardens...
23:07 People do their gardens.
23:08 Then talk to that person like what is it take to do that.
23:11 Yeah. I'm interested in that.
23:14 So, you know, it seems like
23:15 the one of the bottom lines of all of this is research.
23:19 You got to do some research,
23:21 even if you want to be that gardener,
23:23 that farmer whatever it may be.
23:25 You need to start somewhere with,
23:26 with doing some research.
23:28 Okay, what does my soil need to be like?
23:30 You know, where do I?
23:32 What kind of seeds do I plant during a specific type of year?
23:35 So doing research is very important, isn't it?
23:37 I think it's important
23:38 but for me on a spiritual level.
23:41 I believe that God created us to do a specific job.
23:45 And if there is nothing else you can do is ask the Lord
23:48 what did You plan for me to do?
23:49 And that's actually the best thing.
23:51 That's actually the best thing.
23:52 With that being said you, the Lord will respond to that.
23:56 He will respond to you saying,
23:58 what is it that you created me to do?
24:01 Because although I was in corporate America
24:03 for many years,
24:04 I was created to do exactly what I am doing.
24:07 Okay, and that's what, what it may take.
24:09 You know, and that's what it does take.
24:11 You know asking the Lord,
24:12 Lord you created me for a purpose.
24:14 You have an assignment for me somewhere.
24:16 It may not even be in corporate America.
24:19 It may not be in a fast food job,
24:20 it maybe doing mission work overseas somewhere
24:23 or here in the United States.
24:25 So we never know, you know, what that is.
24:27 A lot of times we try to do things ourselves.
24:29 You know, it's so easy to try to do things our way,
24:33 our own self instead of letting go
24:34 and letting God as the phrase says.
24:37 You know, so that is very, very important
24:39 in terms of you know succeeding in life,
24:42 just looking onto Jesus
24:44 and saying where Jesus wants us to be.
24:46 And I think if we do that,
24:48 you know, everything else start to fall in play.
24:50 Everything else will fall in play and you will learn
24:53 that you can do much more than you think you can do.
24:55 Okay, okay.
24:56 You will have a vision.
24:58 You will have a purpose
24:59 and you will automatically follow that person
25:02 because the majority of people working
25:05 in corporate America hate their jobs.
25:07 Yeah, that's true.
25:08 They are not even happy doing what they do.
25:11 But because they need the income.
25:14 But there is a point
25:15 where you have to come to a cross road
25:17 and say, okay, I need to satisfy this desire.
25:21 You know, God help me with this
25:22 because this is not working for me anymore.
25:24 Yeah, you know and that is so true that,
25:26 you know, people at lot of times
25:28 they don't necessarily like their job.
25:30 You know, my dad used to tell me
25:31 some when I was younger,
25:32 he would say you know find a job that you like doing
25:35 so when you go to work
25:36 it's not like work, it's just like,
25:38 it's something you like to do, it's something fun.
25:41 And you know, I think that
25:42 that is important in finding a job
25:44 because if you do find something that you like,
25:46 then it's just enjoyable, just to go to,
25:48 it doesn't become that burden,
25:49 it doesn't become that dread eye.
25:51 I don't like to wakeup to go to where I'd, you know,
25:53 I dread in dressed to go to work.
25:54 So that is very important.
25:56 You know, try to understand what your own skills are.
25:59 What your skills are
26:00 and what job suits those specific kind of skills.
26:03 And another thing that's important
26:04 is to not put limitations on yourself.
26:07 And be fearless, try everything.
26:09 I mean everything is not gonna work,
26:11 and it's okay, it's really okay.
26:13 because you learn not to do that same thing again.
26:16 But don't be afraid to try.
26:19 And I think fear captivates people.
26:22 Okay, I want you to talk to the viewer for a second.
26:24 I want you to challenge the viewer to,
26:28 you know, find a job, to trust in Jesus to,
26:31 you know, allow the Lord to open up doors.
26:34 Challenge them to even seek God first
26:37 and all things else will be added.
26:39 I will do that. Amen.
26:41 All I can say is that in my journey I have found
26:45 that I'm capable of un-limitless potential.
26:49 I think that anyone in this society
26:52 with everything going on needs to face
26:55 and seek the Lord for every situation
26:59 that you have in life,
27:00 because nothing is too big for God.
27:02 He is able to handle it all. That's right.
27:04 So since He is able and He wants to do it,
27:06 why wouldn't you let Him do it?
27:08 And I think that He will just take you to places
27:10 that you couldn't even imagine.
27:13 But you have to know that He is there
27:15 and you have to accept His help.
27:17 Okay, okay.
27:18 Real quick, provide your contact information,
27:20 so that people can get in contact
27:21 with your organization.
27:23 Okay, it's www.jas4you.org.
27:28 That's www.jas4you.org.
27:35 The phone number is 888-527-1670.
27:41 Thank you so much, Ms. Paula Hollmon.
27:43 Thank you so much.
27:44 You know, viewers this has been a great,
27:46 great experience learning this information.
27:49 I hope you've taken out a pen, a paper
27:52 and written some of this stuff down.
27:54 You know, it's not everyday that you'll get somebody
27:56 that will tell you the steps
27:57 that you need to take in how to find Jesus,
28:00 the steps that you need to take and how to find a job.
28:03 How to be determined?
28:04 How to, you know, really put your skills to use?
28:07 How to get out there and do something?
28:10 You know what?
28:11 This is a very great program
28:13 and I hope you'll bless this as, like I was blessed.
28:17 Please join us next time on The New Journey.
28:19 Be blessed.