Participants: Aaron Chaney (Host), Annex Luberisse
Series Code: TNJ
Program Code: TNJ000042
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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:05 may be too candid for younger children. 00:09 In part 1 of the program 00:11 we learned about a young man named Annex 00:13 that was involved heavily in the gang life. 00:15 Tune in for part 2 as we delve into 00:18 what the next chapter of his life is. 00:20 You won't want to miss this program 00:22 of The New Journey. 00:55 Welcome back to The New Journey. 00:57 Thank you for tuning into part 2 00:58 of Annex's amazing story. 01:01 Annex, we'd like to thank you for coming back on the program 01:04 for part 2. 01:05 Before we get into the information 01:07 that we have here, 01:08 let's briefly recap over what we talked about in part 1. 01:12 What gang were you involved in and where are you from? 01:16 Well, I'm from West Palm Beach, Florida. 01:18 And I was involved with Top 6 and also San Castle 01:23 for a pretty large part of my life. 01:25 Okay, okay. 01:27 Now give us a little bit of background 01:28 on the San Castle gang and the Top 6 gang? 01:30 Well, it was a street gang 01:32 out of West Palm Beach, Florida. 01:33 Top 6 was the gang that ran Lake Worth, Florida. 01:36 San Castle pretty much had the territory 01:39 between Lantana and Hypoluxo, 01:41 all the way from Boynton Beach stopped at Delray Beach. 01:44 We ran that part of town and everywhere down from there. 01:49 Okay, now in part 1, we talked about you, 01:52 you were just getting ready 01:53 to walk away from the gang life. 01:55 And once you walked away from that gang life, 01:57 what did you get involved to next, 01:59 dealing with real estate? 02:01 Well, my brother, brother-in-law, 02:05 he was always into interesting ideas on how to get rich. 02:09 Okay. 02:10 And so-- 02:12 Get rich schemes. Yeah, get rich schemes. 02:13 So he got a flyer, I don't know how he got it 02:17 but he invited us to come with him 02:19 to one of those seminars that they was doing, 02:23 real estate seminars. 02:25 Okay. 02:26 And I went with him and my older brother 02:27 went with him as well. 02:29 And that's when my journey started off at the real estate 02:32 and also the spiritualism in a sense. 02:33 Okay, now your involvement in spiritualism, 02:37 what did you get involved with, specifically with spiritualism? 02:41 Well, when in spiritualism 02:43 the things that I got involved with 02:45 was the various different practices such as hypnosis. 02:51 Okay. 02:52 Also meditation, Black-Op hypnosis, 02:56 and you also have astral projection, 03:00 conversational hypnosis. 03:01 Okay. 03:02 Pretty much things like that, more of spiritualistic things. 03:06 Okay, not as many of us like myself that don't know much 03:09 about Black-Ops hypnosis, astral projection, 03:13 could you provide little bit of details of each of these, 03:16 what's all involved? 03:17 Well, I can give you a little brief detail, but-- 03:20 Okay. 03:22 But I can't go too much into it but-- 03:23 Okay. 03:25 When we, we all pretty much know 03:26 what meditation and all these other things are. 03:28 Uh-huh. 03:30 But conversational hypnosis is pretty much the skill 03:34 and the talent to be able to use conversation 03:37 to get what you want. 03:38 Okay. 03:39 So it's more in the term of saying words 03:43 that the human psyche would not understand 03:45 and conversational hypnosis 03:47 goes along with something called NLP. 03:49 NLP is short 03:51 for Neuro-Linguistic Programming. 03:54 What that is, is neural is mental, 03:56 linguistic is language, programming is programming. 03:59 So you would use the mind and also the conversation 04:03 to get the person to get to do what you want them to do. 04:07 You know, so you would use words that-- 04:10 We've two different way of understanding things. 04:13 We have the conscious and we have the subconscious. 04:15 So NLP was learning how to speak 04:18 to the person's subconscious 04:20 where they have no reasoning power 04:22 to stop you from doing what you want to do. 04:23 Wow, so that would pretty much just break down 04:25 your reasoning abilities. 04:26 Breaks down the frontal lobe. 04:28 Okay. Go pass the frontal lobe. 04:29 Say things, say words that the-- 04:31 See the frontal lobe is a reasoning factor. 04:33 That's where you reason, you make decisions. 04:35 So if you use words 04:36 that the individual will not have the ability 04:40 to make a decision or-- 04:41 You're able to influence them in ways 04:44 that they would've never been influenced before 04:46 if you use more common words. 04:47 Okay, so what about the astral projection? 04:50 Astral projection is a little bit more serious. 04:53 Astral projection was the last thing 04:55 that I got involved in. 04:57 Astral projection is pretty much the separation 04:59 between body and soul. 05:01 Astral projection is something that I did a lot of-- 05:07 Okay. 05:08 And it's a way to disconnect yourself 05:11 and to get into an astral projection state, 05:15 you'd have to know how to do a lucid dream-- 05:17 That means, like if you're having a dream, 05:19 you actually know you're dreaming. 05:20 Okay, okay. 05:21 So, if you're dreaming, you can actually say, 05:23 "Oh I'm in a dream," and wake up out of your dream 05:26 or transfer yourself into another dream. 05:29 It's a dream state that you put your body in. 05:32 It's used for a lot of different, different things, 05:37 a lot of different spiritualism things. 05:38 Okay. 05:40 Now what about the Black-Ops hypnosis? 05:42 What is the difference between Black-Ops hypnosis 05:44 and the conversational hypnosis? 05:46 Conversational hypnosis is a conversation, 05:50 like if I say something to you, 05:54 like Aaron you know a person like me 05:58 is always good to talk to. 06:00 You know in real life I'm telling you 06:04 your subconscious to like me so I would use words that-- 06:09 it makes sense to your regular mind 06:12 but your subconscious mind sees it different 06:15 because I'm using different words 06:16 to get a different result. 06:18 But in NLP, Neuro-Linguistic Pattern, 06:22 it's more of using the person's six senses 06:26 and it originates straight out of the Garden of Eden. 06:29 Uh-huh, okay. 06:31 It's more like using the person's six senses 06:32 by using touch, sight, feel 06:34 and all the other senses to get the person to do things 06:38 that would benefit your need or their need. 06:41 Okay, so, you know that's a big transition 06:44 going from the gang life then over to spiritualism. 06:49 Now you told me that you eventually met a man 06:51 named Byron that you worked with-- 06:53 Yes. 06:54 Give us a little information about that whole encounter 06:56 and what that led to? 06:57 Oh, that was a very interesting encounter. 06:59 I've been working with Byron at a warehouse 07:01 for over five years, I was working with him. 07:04 Me and him really never had-- 07:05 We had a little small encounters 07:08 where he would say, 07:10 man you better leave these girls alone 07:12 and I'd be like, well, you need to tell them to leave me alone, 07:14 you know, so we'd cross path 07:18 but we never really sat down and talked 07:20 until one day he saw me listening to my iPod 07:24 and he said, "What are you listening to?" 07:25 At that time I was listening to J. Rothstein 07:28 and I told him I was listening to J. Rothstein. 07:30 He says, "What do you know about J. Rothstein?" 07:32 I said, "Well really nothing, I just like what he's saying." 07:35 He is a prosperity preacher. 07:37 So the prosperity gospel was very good for me 07:39 because you can have Jesus 07:41 and have money at the same time. 07:42 You know, so he told me, 07:44 "What do you know about J. Rothstein?" 07:45 I said, well really nothing. I just like what he says. 07:48 So he says, "So do you believe in God?" 07:50 I said, well, yeah and then I said, 07:54 "I don't believe in him 07:55 the same way you believe in him." 07:56 Okay. "I believe we all are gods. 07:58 We all have the ability to be God." 07:59 Okay. 08:01 And everything is God, you know. 08:02 Okay, let me ask you this. 08:04 You said something important. 08:05 You had the belief that everybody was God. 08:08 Now in part 1 of the program, 08:10 you talked about how you were involved with the Mormons. 08:13 How did you come to that portion, 08:15 to that point where you believed 08:17 that we were our own gods? 08:20 Well, it's through a whole history 08:22 and background of things 08:24 would take more than a long time 08:26 to really get into it 08:28 but, you know, throughout practicing spiritualism 08:32 and doing astral projection and seeing these spirits 08:36 and communicating with these different demonic entities, 08:43 you get the idea of what they're saying is true 08:46 and what you're listening to is true 08:48 and that's one of the things 08:49 that they put in your head is that pantheism, you know, 08:53 thinking that God exists in everything. 08:55 And that was one of the things that I approached Byron with. 08:59 Okay, okay, and then eventually the conversations, 09:03 where did that eventually lead to? 09:04 Well, Byron told me he says, he said, "Really?" 09:07 I said, "Yeah," you know, 09:09 and then I told him a little bit more 09:10 and this guy wasn't moved. 09:11 Usually you tell someone something like that, 09:13 they would look at you like you're crazy. 09:15 He wasn't moved, he wasn't shook. 09:17 He says, he says, "Do you have a Bible?" 09:19 I said, I said, "Yeah." 09:21 I still had my Mormon Bible. 09:23 So he says go read these verses found in Deuteronomy. 09:27 I think it's Deuteronomy Chapter 9, 09:28 but, it's been a while. 09:31 He gave it to me to go read it. 09:32 But I didn't read it. 09:34 The first night I didn't read it 09:35 because every time I get off from work, 09:37 I would go astral project. 09:38 I would go practice my spiritualism things 09:40 and not go read the Bible. 09:42 Okay. But eventually I did. 09:44 Now at the times when you'd do that astral projection, 09:47 the Black-Ops hypnosis 09:49 and the various other forms of hypnosis. 09:51 Did any of that kind of scare you 09:53 what you were getting involved and I know when I began-- 09:57 the night that I made a decision 09:58 that changed my life, 10:00 it was like the demon was beginning to manifest itself. 10:04 I remember I was lying down on the floor in my room 10:06 and I could see demons moving about on the ceiling in my room 10:09 and that scared me. 10:11 Now what you were involved in was a lot deeper than that, 10:14 so there was never any fear or what you were doing, 10:17 it didn't scare you at all? 10:18 No it didn't scare me 10:20 because I was getting the results 10:21 that I was looking for. 10:22 Okay, and those results were? 10:24 Those results was to getting what you want, 10:25 getting people to do what you want them to do, 10:27 being able to be very influential. 10:29 Okay. 10:30 And being able to visit other world, you know, 10:33 being able to talk to these different entities so. 10:36 Okay. 10:37 It didn't scare me at first but it started to scare me 10:41 after I actually read that verse. 10:42 Okay, okay. 10:43 You know, eventually I got around to reading the verse 10:46 that Byron told me to go read and after I read that verse, 10:49 everything started going wrong. 10:51 And what was the gist of that verse 10:53 that he encouraged you to read. 10:54 Well, it was the verse talking about the mean spirits. 10:57 You know, you should not be involved with the mean spirits, 11:00 Necromancies and all of those and-- 11:02 Divination and various things like that. 11:04 Divination, it's abomination. Yeah, okay. 11:05 You know, when I heard that, 11:06 that kind off spooked me a little bit 11:08 because I still had a form of godliness 11:11 but denying the power thereof. 11:13 So I kind of, you know was a little nervous like, okay, 11:17 is these demons, you know, but they don't-- 11:20 they were not presented to me as demons 11:22 or anything like that. 11:24 They were presented to me as guides, 11:26 you know, leaders and stuff like that. 11:28 So I never looked at it as demons 11:31 until I went back to Byron the next day and I was like, 11:33 man what is this talking about. 11:35 And he told me straight up, he says those spirits 11:40 that you're talking to are demons 11:43 and that spooked me. 11:45 Now, why did you choose to believe 11:48 that they were demons 11:49 based on what the text said, based on what Byron said, 11:53 you've been doing astral projection 11:54 and thing for a while. 11:56 Why didn't you just believe that, 11:58 you know okay maybe this stuff isn't true? 12:00 You know, they've always presented themselves as guides. 12:03 What made you kind of start to think about it? 12:05 It got evil. It got really, really serious. 12:08 Okay, what do you mean by that? 12:09 Like when I get home, 12:12 Byron was very adamant about saving me. 12:15 You know, so I would get home-- 12:17 That's good. That's a good thing. 12:18 And he would give me verse to read and when I got home, 12:21 you know when they are there. 12:23 You know when I come out of the car 12:24 I can feel their presence. 12:26 And I would say to myself that I'm gonna go home 12:29 and I'm gonna read these verses 12:30 that Byron gave to me and as time goes on, 12:34 you know, things would happen like my light would go off 12:36 so I wouldn't read the verse 12:37 and eventually when I started to read the verse, 12:40 after a while past they started to really, really get physical, 12:44 so they would literally attack me, 12:47 hit me, pull my pillow from underneath when I'm sleeping. 12:50 So it got really, really serious 12:52 so that's how I knew that it was evil. 12:53 Okay, now do you think that was happening 12:55 because you started to read the Bible 12:58 or and Byron was telling you these things 13:00 and you know I guess 13:01 when you start to leave that lifestyle, 13:03 the whole spirit world apart from God, you know, 13:06 the spirits, the demons try to pull you back. 13:08 So was it because maybe you were reading the text 13:11 or what Byron was telling you, they started tormenting you. 13:14 Well, the text was very powerful. 13:16 Once that started to happen, I went to Byron the next day. 13:19 "Hey man! What's going on here?" 13:21 You know, I went to him the next day, like, 13:23 "Hey look this, this is not what I-- 13:25 I didn't sign up for this." 13:27 You know, so he looked at me simply, he just said, 13:32 "Okay, what's the problem?" 13:33 I said, "These things 13:34 are really, really making it hard for me to sleep, 13:37 making it hard for me to live." 13:38 And he says, "Well, just pray to Jesus?" 13:42 I said, "Jesus? 13:43 Man come on man", I said "for real give me some, 13:46 " You know I'm from the street, 13:47 I'm like give me something to take care of this. 13:49 You know and he looked at me with a straight face, 13:51 he never flinched. 13:52 He just said pray to Jesus. 13:54 And when I got home, you know, 13:57 the same situation would happen again. 13:59 And then I would strive at myself, 14:04 like jeez, this is stupid, this is ridiculous, 14:07 this man can't tell me to pray to Jesus 14:09 so as the situation got more and more and more serious, 14:13 I got to a predicament where I needed help 14:17 and I didn't know what to do 14:19 and I just said Jesus help and that was the end of that. 14:23 Now when you said Jesus help, what happened after that? 14:25 Did you feel that help come or something else? 14:29 What transpired? 14:30 Well, being at astral projection, 14:33 when you get yourself in a state of total OBE, 14:40 out of body, there's no way to, 14:42 like, you would be sleeping and you would wake up 14:46 but you'd still be asleep. 14:47 Okay, so you could pretty much kind of see yourself sleeping. 14:51 Yeah, do you understand like, you'd sleep 14:54 and then you wake up from a dream 14:55 but you'd still be in a dream. 14:57 And I couldn't get out and they would torment me. 15:01 So when I said Jesus help, I would wake up. 15:04 I would wake up right out of it. 15:06 Okay, okay, that's powerful. 15:07 I remember when I was beginning to change my life, I prayed. 15:12 I finally got on my knees by myself, I prayed 15:15 and as I was praying 15:16 I could literally feel Satan rising off of my back. 15:20 You know, the name of Jesus carries power. 15:23 Power and weight to it and because of Jesus' name, 15:27 demons have to flee when we call that name, 15:28 that's very powerful. 15:30 Now talk to us about your quest for the true church. 15:33 Byron gave you some information 15:35 and then something happened, talk about that? 15:36 You know the interesting fact about it is that 15:38 the Lord knows what he is doing. 15:40 You know, the Lord really knows how to lead a person to. 15:43 Because when Byron gave me-- 15:44 he was walking me through this, 15:47 I went through the whole Bible within like 30 days. 15:51 You know I wanted to know this Jesus. 15:53 I went through the whole thing within like 30 days-- 15:55 From Genesis to Revelation? 15:56 Genesis to Revelation. Wow. 15:58 And it just stuck in my head. 16:00 I can give you the whole Bible from Genesis to Revelation. 16:04 So that Jesus, I wanted to know who Jesus was, 16:08 so I really, really started to study the word of God 16:13 and that was one of the turning points 16:16 that really, really helped me out. 16:17 Okay, now talk about how you got that answer. 16:20 Okay, how I got the, which answer? 16:23 The specific answer of the true church. 16:26 Oh, okay. Yes. 16:27 I told Byron that God must have a church. 16:31 He said, "Yeah, He does." 16:33 So I said, "I'm gonna find it." 16:35 He said, "Okay, go ahead." 16:37 So I went, I was starting to look through the Bible 16:39 and I was wrestling trying to find his church. 16:43 I couldn't find no church. 16:45 You know, one flock, one fold, 16:46 and I'm like, okay, so there must be one. 16:48 Yeah, you're looking for specific name, right? 16:50 I'm looking for specific name, I couldn't find it 16:52 so I told my brother, "I'm gonna find this church." 16:54 And he says, "Okay." 16:56 So I went back to Byron and I said, 16:57 "B I can't find this church." 16:59 So Byron says, "Why not? 17:01 Why don't you just ask the spirits? 17:03 I said, "Well, that's a good idea. 17:06 Why don't I just do that?" 17:08 So I went home and I just sat down 17:11 and I said Lord, where is your church? 17:14 Who is your true church? Okay. 17:16 And then the impression came, Seventh-day Adventist. 17:18 Seventh-day Adventist. 17:19 So I ran downstairs and I told my brother. 17:22 I found the church! 17:24 He says what church is it? 17:25 I said it's the Seventh-day Adventist church. 17:27 Wow! 17:28 Now at that point had you ever heard 17:30 of the Seventh-day Adventist up until then? 17:32 Oh, no. 17:33 No, I've never knew nothing about Seventh-day Adventist. 17:35 The closest I came to religion was 17:38 Jehovah Witness and the Mormon. 17:40 So when I got back to work, 17:42 I said, "Byron I found the true church." 17:44 He said, "Okay, what is it?" 17:47 I said, "It's the Seventh-day Adventist church." 17:49 And then he gave me that look, 17:52 you know, he gave me that look, scary look. 17:54 So you know, being involved into so much different things 17:57 you understand the body language. 17:59 So I said, "Byron, where do you go to church?" 18:03 He said, "I'm a Seventh-day Adventist." 18:04 So all this time he had never told you 18:05 he was Seventh-day Adventist. 18:07 He never told me he was a Seventh-day Adventist. 18:08 And the interesting thing about it was, 18:09 if he would have told me he was a Seventh-day Adventist, 18:11 he probably would have lost me, 18:12 because with all of the other things 18:15 that comes with being the Seventh-day Adventist. 18:16 With me coming out of the Mormon movement, 18:18 Joseph Smith, 18:22 you know it would have really turned me off. 18:24 Wow! Yeah, that is understandable. 18:27 So now that you'd learned 18:28 that it was the Seventh-day Adventist church, 18:30 what was your next step 18:31 because you eventually ended up at Wildwood? 18:33 How did you get there? 18:34 When I found out 18:36 it was the Seventh-day Adventist church. 18:37 I wanted to be anywhere that the Seventh-day Adventist was, 18:39 you know, so I started to look for the church 18:41 and I found a church 18:43 that was down the street from me 18:45 and I started to attend that church. 18:47 And at that time everything started going wrong. 18:51 They fired me from my job 18:53 and that gave me the opportunity 18:55 to start to search 18:56 for what the Lord wanted me to do. 18:58 And I told Byron, throughout-- 19:01 You know, we don't have time to really get into it, 19:03 but throughout the period that I was, 19:06 I was going through it back and forth with Byron. 19:10 The Lord revealed to me 19:11 that He wanted me to go and do missionary work, 19:14 and I thought it was just a regular missionary work 19:16 and Byron gave me a phone number 19:19 of a guy Shawn Craig, that's at Wildwood 19:22 and to give him a call. 19:24 And he wanted me to go to Wildwood. 19:26 Okay, so you got to Wildwood, 19:29 Wildwood College of Health Evangelism. 19:31 And how was it adjusting to Wildwood 19:34 versus the lifestyle you just came from? 19:36 Oh, Wildwood was horrible. 19:38 Well, tell us, elaborate on why was it horrible? 19:41 Wildwood went against everything that I believed. 19:45 It went against everything that I grew up, 19:47 that I grown up knowing to do. 19:50 Now for those that don't know much 19:51 about Wildwood College of Health Evangelism. 19:53 Give us a brief background of Wildwood? 19:55 Well, Wildwood is a medical missionary training school. 19:58 They train you about the medical missionary work. 20:02 And they give you the really, the foundation of Christianity. 20:06 How to really be a Christian, 20:07 like Christian home, Christian living, 20:10 you know, all of these things that we were told to do 20:14 as secular world is completely wrong. 20:17 When you come to place like Wildwood, 20:19 you get to learn the multi-facet 20:23 of what Christ has in store for you, 20:26 the right way not the wrong way. 20:27 I got to Wildwood, 20:29 I figured out everything that I've been doing 20:30 for the best of my whole life had been wrong. 20:33 So it was hard. 20:34 It was really hard. 20:36 So you went from the gang life 20:37 to spiritualism, then to Wildwood. 20:39 Yes, sir. 20:41 Now you are involved in ministry work, 20:42 full time ministry work. 20:43 Talk a little bit about the work that you're doing now 20:45 and what you have planned for the future? 20:47 Well, what we are doing now in ministry is before Wildwood, 20:52 when I got to Wildwood, I was finished with Wildwood, 20:55 so I got involved in doing natural remedy weekends. 20:59 Now what the natural remedy weekend is, 21:01 you would go out to various places 21:04 and you would put on health presentations 21:08 and health talks and things like that. 21:10 So I really, really liked doing that 21:12 and I felt that, 21:13 that's what the Lord was calling me to do. 21:15 So as I got involved in doing that type of work, 21:20 I left Wildwood and I went ahead 21:22 and I started my own ministry. 21:24 Now, while starting my own ministry, 21:26 I had the ability to go to the various places 21:30 and I ended up in Missouri. 21:34 While I was in Missouri, 21:36 a wonderful lady that the Lord sent, 21:38 her name is Shirley. 21:39 She attended one of our presentation 21:41 and she was very impressed. 21:44 And she was like, 21:46 we need something like this here in Missouri. 21:48 So I'm like okay. 21:50 So she had a place that she wanted to show us 21:52 and she took us to it and it was a clinic 21:55 and this clinic was a very wonderful place, 21:59 it's located right outside of Missouri 22:01 and in the inside you have a nice sitting area 22:05 where people can come, people can sit. 22:07 And we took the clinic, we transformed the clinic 22:10 to what we needed it to be for our ministry. 22:13 It has a waiting room, it has an emergency room 22:15 where if you need to deal with people, 22:17 you can deal with people there. 22:18 It has a laboratory, full functionable laboratory 22:21 where you can do blood work and all of that other stuff. 22:23 And we have exercise room in there. 22:26 We also have herbal products. 22:28 We have like say for instance, 22:29 if someone wants to go the more natural way they can. 22:33 So we've been doing the clinic, we started the clinic 22:35 since the beginning of this year, 22:38 we've been operating the clinic. 22:40 And now we're looking more 22:43 into the second half of our ministry 22:45 and that is starting a lifestyle center. 22:47 Matter of fact, we've located a place 22:49 where we want to start it up. 22:51 And we're looking for support 22:53 as for people that's gonna help with the Lord's work, 22:55 to help us to be able to obtain this place 22:57 and this lifestyle center 22:59 is right outside of Marshall, Missouri. 23:01 It's not too far from Marshall. 23:02 And the wonderful thing about it is, Aaron, 23:05 is that the Lord has got us half way there 23:09 and now we need the other half, you know, in the gospel, 23:12 he says outside of every major city 23:14 you must have lifestyle centers for people to be able to go to. 23:17 This property is 79 acres. 23:21 They're asking $375,000. 23:26 We are doing some fund raisers for the property right now. 23:29 Eventually-- 23:30 Right now we've raised over $35, 000 of donation, 23:35 so we are looking for more supporters. 23:37 People that has the mind that the Lord 23:39 really wants this world to help us out 23:41 to be able to obtain this property 23:42 and be able to continue doing the Lord's work. 23:44 Okay, now looking back on your life. 23:47 The many things that you have gone through, 23:48 as you've mentioned the gangs, the spiritualism, 23:51 how has the word of God, the spirit of prophecy, 23:54 how have these things help you overcome the many things 23:58 that you've been involved in? 23:59 These things are powerful. 24:01 The word of God is life. Oh, yeah. 24:04 The word of God is the most powerful, 24:06 the most precious thing that I've ever came upon. 24:09 You know, me coming out of the spiritualism world, 24:11 the word of God really makes sense to you 24:13 because you've seen that word in action. 24:16 I've seen the name of Jesus Christ. 24:17 So when he says in the name of Jesus Christ, 24:19 every demon shall flee away, I have seen that done. 24:22 And Ellen White is a rebuke to a lot of people, 24:26 and also to myself as well, because what I've came from, 24:29 it totally goes against what I believe. 24:32 So I have to learn to leave my belief aside 24:34 to really, really seek after what the Lord wants me to do. 24:38 You know, you come to a point in your life 24:39 when you say like the Lord says, 24:43 who will I send, you say, here I am Lord, send me. 24:45 Yeah, okay. 24:46 Now for a person that has a thought 24:50 of getting into astral projection, hypnosis 24:53 because they may think it's cool or whatever. 24:57 Would you suggest that they stay away from it? 25:00 It's completely against what God wants us to do. 25:04 Separating yourself from yourself 25:06 is completely what God would want you to do. 25:09 If you are thinking about 25:11 getting involved with something like that, 25:12 I would tell you to think twice. 25:14 Because once you get into the spiritualism world, 25:17 there's no coming out. 25:18 You know, only God can get you out of that. 25:20 If it wasn't for the love of God, 25:21 I would have never made it out. 25:23 Satan is playing for keeps and so is the Lord. 25:26 So it's very, very serious business 25:29 so, anyone that would be considering that type of stuff, 25:32 I would say pick up your Bible and read it, 25:34 because the word of God is where the power is at. 25:36 Satan is a conquered foe. 25:37 You know, he has no power, you know 25:40 and he is trying to take everyone down with him, 25:41 so I'd say cling to the Lord and don't let go. 25:44 Now when you, and that is very true. 25:46 When you started to walk away from it have you-- 25:51 since you walked away from it I should say, 25:53 have you still been tormented by those spirits or you know, 25:56 'cause sometimes when people change their lives, 25:58 you know, they are so addicted or tied to the various things 26:01 that they've been involved with. 26:03 Are you still tempted by that 26:05 or is it pretty much something that you overcame completely. 26:08 You know I was afraid that you'd ask me this question. 26:11 I had to get it in, man. 26:12 I was afraid that you would ask me that question, 26:13 but no, you don't, you don't eventually, 26:16 you never get away from it. 26:17 It still happen. 26:19 It happens very frequently but you-- 26:22 Okay, where the demons kind of torments you 26:24 whenever they need. 26:25 Yeah, it happens very quite often. 26:27 The most recent experience I can remember 26:29 is two weeks ago. 26:30 They really will not let you sleep. 26:32 It will really, really be hard. 26:33 But you've a comforter. 26:35 He always speaks in His still silent voice 26:38 and all you have to do is pray to Jesus 26:40 and some of the other time it will happen as well 26:42 if you enter into sin. 26:44 God can't help you if you're into sin. 26:46 So it helps you to know the Lord 26:50 and the more you know the Lord, 26:51 the more of this stuff 26:52 will start to disappear from your life. 26:54 But once you've opened that door, 26:55 it's hard to close that door. 26:57 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 26:58 You know one thing that you read about 26:59 in the Book of Revelation mainly around Chapters 2 and 3, 27:02 is that it repeatedly says that heaven is for the overcomer. 27:05 Anyway, you know, we all go through trials in our life, 27:08 walking away from the various things 27:09 that we were addicted to in life. 27:11 And we have to overcome those things, 27:14 those besetments in our lives, those sins in our lives. 27:17 We have to overcome. 27:19 Use these last few seconds to speak to that young person 27:22 that is, wants to get involved in gang life, 27:24 wants to get involved in astral projection, 27:25 speak real quickly to that person? 27:27 You know, the gang life 27:29 is not the life that you want to live. 27:31 You know, I had to watch my mother cry herself 27:33 to sleep every night. 27:34 You know, I have to listen to her trials 27:37 because my little brother's doing 10 years in prison. 27:40 You know, so it's not a life that you want to live. 27:42 You know, as for the spiritualism part, 27:44 it's death. 27:46 There is no life outside of Christ. 27:48 You have to really, really be careful 27:50 when you're thinking about 27:51 getting yourself into these things 27:53 because you cannot get yourself out. 27:54 I know because I've been into it before, 27:56 so I would highly encourage them not to. 27:59 Thank you, Brother Annex for being on the program. 28:01 We encourage you to tune in next time 28:03 for The New Journey. |
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