Participants: Aaron Chancy (Host), Latoya Holloman
Series Code: TNJ
Program Code: TNJ000043
00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material
00:05 may be too candid for younger children.
00:09 Welcome to The New Journey.
00:10 In today's program we'll meet a young woman
00:12 who grew up on the mean streets of Baltimore.
00:15 Join us for The New Journey.
00:48 Welcome back to The New Journey.
00:49 On today's program we have a young woman with us
00:52 named Latoya Holloman.
00:53 Latoya, like to thank you for being on the program.
00:56 Thank you for having me. All right, all right.
00:58 Now for the record, how old are you
01:00 and we know you're already from Baltimore
01:01 but give us a little background of Baltimore
01:04 and how old you are?
01:05 You know, I'm 28
01:07 and I grew up in Baltimore, Maryland
01:09 on Greenmount Avenue, North Avenue.
01:13 Very heavy drug trafficking in that area,
01:17 grew up with a lot of different friends there.
01:20 We all had different backgrounds and...
01:23 Now, tell us a little bit about your family background,
01:25 your mother, your father, your siblings,
01:27 give us a little bit of details about them?
01:29 Well, we all grew up together
01:31 and me and my brother was kind of the bestie.
01:37 We stayed in trouble
01:39 and was in and out of juvenile for many so...
01:44 My sisters then was kind of just focused on school
01:47 and different stuff like that.
01:50 So it was mainly me and my brother
01:51 that was getting in a lot of trouble.
01:53 Okay, what were some of the trouble
01:54 that you and your brother were getting involved in?
01:58 It's almost like we took turns getting kicked out of school.
02:03 We were fighting all the time, getting kicked out of school.
02:09 We went as far as setting house on fire.
02:13 So, yeah.
02:14 Okay, now, I'm sure you've heard
02:16 of the program called "Wire".
02:18 And it's based out of Baltimore, Maryland.
02:20 It is.
02:22 And is the reality that they portray in it,
02:24 is it pretty much factual
02:25 for a person like you growing up in Baltimore?
02:28 Yes. Okay.
02:29 They didn't sugar-coated at all.
02:31 Okay, okay, so it is really a violent place to live,
02:35 probably one of the worst cities in America, right?
02:37 It is. Okay, okay.
02:38 Now you eventually got involved in the gang life,
02:41 how did that come about?
02:43 Well, I met my brother on my father's side
02:47 and he introduced me to do it
02:50 and that's how I became a gang member.
02:53 Okay, now what particular gang were you involved in?
02:57 Bloods. The Bloods.
02:58 Okay, and what are some of the known or unknown gangs
03:01 there are in Baltimore area?
03:03 The Bloods, Crips,
03:05 Gangster Disciple, Tree Top Piru.
03:07 Okay, Okay.
03:09 Now as a female in a gang, how was it for you?
03:15 It was pretty scary at times, dangerous.
03:21 I didn't have to worry about too much
03:23 'cause I was the female so I was always protected
03:25 and that's what I liked about it.
03:27 Okay, now what made you gravitate
03:29 to being involved in, involve in gangs.
03:31 Many people often say that it's that brotherhood
03:34 or that sisterhood that they're looking for,
03:36 that love that they, you know, weren't getting at home,
03:40 was it similar for you or was it something different?
03:44 I would say similar and different.
03:47 Wanting something to be a part of.
03:50 And just fitting in,
03:54 so and to be protected
03:56 so that's what made me join a gang.
04:00 And you were eventually incarcerated.
04:03 At what age were you first incarcerated?
04:06 Well, I was first incarcerated when I was 15.
04:10 As I spoke about earlier, the arson charge that we got.
04:15 Okay, so you were incarcerated for the arson charge.
04:19 How long were you in, I assume that's juvenile,
04:21 you were in juvenile at that time,
04:23 how long were you incarcerated?
04:24 Just overnight. Okay, okay.
04:26 How was that experience?
04:28 It was rough
04:29 and scary that was my first time being locked up
04:32 and so I really didn't know what to think.
04:35 So, yeah...
04:36 I remember the first time I got locked up
04:38 I was 15 years old also and I was in a juvenile center,
04:43 I was actually there for a week and it was different
04:46 because I'm not built for a cage, number one,
04:50 I like to be outside out and about doing things
04:52 and to adjust to having to just sit in a room
04:55 for 23 hours out of the day was very, very difficult.
05:00 You know and some people try to glorify
05:02 being incarcerated.
05:03 Do you think that it's something to glorify?
05:06 Absolutely not.
05:09 When I first got, I mean, incarcerated
05:12 it was the worst phase of my life being closed in.
05:16 Anybody that knows me know
05:17 that I like to just get up and go.
05:19 Yeah. Okay.
05:20 I love the fresh air and all that
05:21 and I couldn't do this,
05:23 so I nearly lost my mind in that place.
05:25 It is definitely not the place to be.
05:27 Now aside from that there were other times
05:29 when you were incarcerated,
05:30 talk a little bit about those situations?
05:32 Disorderly conduct. Okay.
05:36 Getting in trouble, and fighting,
05:43 just foolishness
05:45 that I shouldn't have been a part of.
05:47 Okay, okay.
05:48 Now, do you think that you were attracted to the streets like,
05:52 in my instance, the way that I grew up,
05:56 I was more attracted to the streets versus
05:58 growing up in the area,
05:59 I was always the one
06:01 that kind of lived around the corner
06:02 from where all the drama was,
06:04 but I was attracted to it and hopped into that.
06:06 Would you say that you were more of a product
06:08 of your environment
06:09 or you were just attracted to the streets
06:11 and kind of gravitated towards it?
06:13 A little bit of both.
06:14 I grew up in that environment
06:17 and was raised in that environment.
06:20 And on the flip side of it
06:22 I also liked what I was seeing so...
06:25 Okay, now what is it, what is it that you like,
06:27 like what you were seeing, what interested you?
06:30 The money.
06:31 Okay, I guess that's for a lot of us.
06:34 The money and definitely being able to provide for myself.
06:39 That was a great help so...
06:41 So you kind of got that addiction
06:42 to the fast money
06:43 and different things like that, right?
06:46 And that's what it is for most of us.
06:47 Most of us that get involved in a street life,
06:50 you know, we see that selling drugs
06:51 or doing something illegal brings that fast money,
06:54 but also it brings consequences.
06:56 I'm sure you have many friends, family members
06:59 that incarcerated right now, right?
07:01 I do. And I have. Okay.
07:04 My father is incarcerated right now
07:07 in and out of jail all the time...
07:10 Drugs, robberies,
07:14 attempted murders, so, yeah.
07:17 Okay, talk about, you had told me
07:19 that at 16 years old I believe it was,
07:21 was when you saw your first murder.
07:23 Talk about that and how it made you feel?
07:26 Man, I was stunned.
07:28 I was staying in Baltimore on Lorraine Avenue
07:32 with my grandmother
07:34 and we heard some gunshots came outside
07:40 and there was two bodies in the front of our home.
07:43 Now seeing something like that
07:45 what, what impact did it have on your life?
07:50 It made me a little scared 'cause I was like,
07:54 you know, "Wow, this is way close to home like."
07:57 Yeah, right on your doorstep.
07:58 It was very close to home
07:59 so, it kind of throw me for little bit,
08:02 made me wanna protect myself just that much more so...
08:04 Okay, okay.
08:06 What about your brother that I believe that you said
08:08 that he had murdered somebody and was incarcerated for it?
08:13 Can you give a little information on that situation,
08:15 how it happened
08:17 or how you were, you know, how you took it?
08:19 Well, he was accused of murder and did some time for it.
08:27 It broke my heart for him
08:28 to have to go through something like that.
08:31 It's always one thing to do time for something
08:35 that you've done
08:37 but it's another do stuff that...
08:39 Incarcerated for something that you didn't do.
08:41 You didn't do. Oh, yeah.
08:42 That is definitely just up and arable, praise God.
08:46 He's going down a different path now.
08:49 So you were incarcerated at one time at 15
08:52 and then you had a couple of more incarcerations.
08:55 Go into a little more detail of those incarcerations,
08:58 how much time you did and the results of them?
09:02 Well, I had a fight at the courthouse
09:05 and I had to go to jail for not a long a period of time
09:09 about 15 days for disorderly conduct
09:13 and that was an experience for me
09:17 being closed in like that for 15 days
09:20 was not good at all.
09:21 Oh, yeah, like a caged animal. Right.
09:23 You got these different girls yelling
09:25 and you got these girls over here crying
09:29 and just you're surrounded by so many different things,
09:32 so many different ways of thinking
09:34 and just it changes you, it definitely changes you.
09:37 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I understand.
09:39 Now you said that you used to get into a lot of fights,
09:42 what was going on internally
09:44 that would cause you to get into a lot of fights?
09:46 Just very angry,
09:48 I felt like that I had something to prove
09:50 because a lot of people would mess with me,
09:53 I thought, because I was short.
09:56 And everybody got little short jokes
09:57 and all that kind of stuff, right.
09:58 Yeah, so I thought that, that was the main reason
10:00 that they will pick on me is because I was short
10:03 and they just want to see if I can protect myself.
10:05 Okay, so people trying to test you
10:06 and things like that.
10:08 Now what was that built up anger about,
10:10 was it just things that were going on in your life
10:12 or what was it?
10:14 I believe it was just a lot of stuff
10:16 that had built up over the years
10:19 and just to the point
10:21 where I just eventually exploded.
10:23 Okay, okay.
10:24 Now eventually you got involved in selling drugs
10:27 and using drugs,
10:28 the first portion of it is what drugs were you using?
10:34 I was using weed, marijuana. Okay.
10:37 And what drugs were you involved with selling?
10:40 Crack, cocaine.
10:41 Okay, so I'm sure from that you saw a lot of cash flow
10:44 and different things like that
10:45 which kind of kept you addicted to that life.
10:48 How did you eventually break away
10:50 from selling drugs and things?
10:54 Well, I just didn't wanted no more.
10:56 I had lot of positive people strolled into my life
11:00 and it just started making a great impact on my life
11:03 and it slowly started changing the way I think.
11:06 Okay, now most of the people that you,
11:08 that were in your circle
11:10 were they trying to keep you in that circle,
11:11 you know, it's kind of like a crab in a bucket theory.
11:14 You want to make a change but your friends always try to,
11:16 you know, pull you back into this little circle of life.
11:19 Did you experience that at all?
11:21 I did, I did.
11:22 Okay, talk about that a little bit?
11:23 Well, a lot of my friends
11:25 I don't associate with them anymore
11:27 because of the new turn that I have took in.
11:30 And, you know, you always get them from instance,
11:33 ah, you're punking, you know, just fooling yourself.
11:37 So you kind of gotta step away from them?
11:39 Yeah. Just love them from a distance.
11:42 Oh, yeah, I understand, I understand.
11:44 You know, it's interesting growing up in Baltimore
11:47 in that rough area
11:50 that you were able to make a change eventually.
11:53 But you still have friends that are out there that are,
11:56 you know, that are still on the streets
11:58 and different things like that, right?
11:59 Mm-hmm. Okay.
12:01 And you try to do, ever try to reach out to them,
12:03 you know, look, it's a better life over here,
12:05 change your life, anything like that?
12:06 I do, I do. Okay.
12:08 What results have you seen from that thus far?
12:11 Well, lot of my friends come to me and say,
12:14 "Well pray for me, Latoya,
12:15 you know, they'll give me a hug, call me.
12:17 Well, that's good, at least they say, pray for me.
12:19 And get it with certain issue
12:21 so it's definitely making an impact.
12:23 Okay, okay.
12:26 In those times that you were incarcerated,
12:29 you know, sometimes we try to glorify it.
12:31 I remember a song back in maybe seven, eight years ago,
12:35 there was a song by a rapper called Styles P.
12:37 and it was "I'm locked up" that was the title of the song.
12:40 And sometimes in hip-hop videos and on TV it's glorified,
12:46 but I know from my own experiences
12:47 of being incarcerated,
12:49 isn't anything glorified about it.
12:50 In your experiences,
12:52 did your see anything to glory about in it?
12:54 Not at all. Why not?
12:58 It was just us in a different form of slavery I think.
13:03 Yeah, okay. Just mentally.
13:05 And we just got to change our way of thinking as people.
13:09 Okay. You know.
13:11 So do you think, do you think all the experiences
13:14 that you went through in your life,
13:16 do you think that they've made you a better person now?
13:19 I do. Okay, why is that?
13:21 I do. I have a testimony now. Amen.
13:26 And being able to adjust, adapt
13:29 and overcome is a beautiful thing.
13:31 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah.
13:32 You know it's always great to hear
13:35 powerful stories of people
13:37 who have been out there on the streets,
13:39 changed their life and now serving God.
13:42 Talk a little bit about what you're involved in now?
13:46 Well, I'm involved in stopping the violence.
13:48 Okay. I've got it together.
13:52 Well, how it came about is
13:54 I was taking a walk to the store one night
13:57 and while I was in the store,
13:59 I'm hearing all these sirens and gunshots and stuff.
14:03 And on the way walking back to the house,
14:06 I see this young lady by the name of Keito
14:09 being carried out of her home, she was shot in head.
14:13 And I'm watching them pump her trying to revive her,
14:16 bring her back to life.
14:18 And it didn't happen.
14:19 So instead of being one of the ones
14:21 who are just talking,
14:25 I said, okay, what can I do to help change this, so.
14:27 Yeah, to make a change. Okay.
14:30 And what have you been able to do
14:32 or what has God placed upon your heart to do?
14:36 Well, I've started doing events.
14:38 I started doing stop the violence events.
14:41 And they have turned out awesome, great,
14:44 it's made a big impact on my neighborhood.
14:47 People still ask me to this day,
14:49 when is the next one, when is the next one.
14:51 I still get phone calls,
14:53 they put it in the paper for me.
14:56 So it's definitely making a mark.
14:59 Now in looking back on your life,
15:02 what are some things that or would you,
15:04 would you change some of the things
15:06 that you went through in life
15:07 or would you keep everything the same?
15:09 I will keep everything the same.
15:10 Okay, now why is that?
15:12 Because what you go through helps make you a better person.
15:15 That is true. That is true.
15:17 I guess in my instance,
15:18 you know, I'm one of those type of people that I say to myself,
15:22 you know, I wish I would have listened when I was younger
15:24 because so many things could have been avoided,
15:26 if I would have just listened
15:28 and stayed on the straight and narrow path.
15:30 And looking back there are many things
15:32 that I would probably change,
15:34 just so I wouldn't had to go through all of that drama
15:36 and, you know, Lord willing,
15:38 he would have taught me in a different way.
15:39 But I do, I do praise the Lord for that testimony.
15:43 What can you encourage people though,
15:45 young people that are gravitating
15:48 to that lifestyle,
15:49 gravitating to the streets, gravitating to gangs,
15:51 what can you encourage them with?
15:54 Just to stay strong,
15:56 stay buckled down in God's word.
16:00 Be encouraged, fight to the end.
16:03 Oh, yeah.
16:04 Never feel like you have something to prove.
16:08 'Cause it always end up
16:10 in the way that you don't want it to end up in.
16:12 So always be who you are
16:14 and not who would somebody else want you to be.
16:16 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, that's a very good advice.
16:19 Now let's go back to the...
16:20 Let's go back to the drugs
16:21 that you were involved with selling
16:23 and different things like that.
16:24 What are some of the main drugs
16:26 that you see flowing through out Baltimore?
16:28 Crack cocaine and heroin. Okay.
16:30 And I know it's pretty much devastated the city, right?
16:34 Okay, so there is a lot of ministry work
16:36 that can be done in that area.
16:38 Oh, absolutely. Okay, okay.
16:41 Now in those drugs,
16:43 have you seen it affect your own home
16:44 in terms of your mother,
16:46 you said your father was on drugs,
16:48 your brothers, sisters, cousins anything like that,
16:50 any family members?
16:52 My father and my mother,
16:57 they are victims of crack cocaine.
17:01 And it definitely,
17:03 crack cocaine have hit my family very strong.
17:06 Okay, okay.
17:07 Now that you've changed your life,
17:10 is anybody else in your family,
17:11 have they become Seventh-day Adventist
17:13 or is anybody else in your family going to church
17:16 or is everybody pretty much
17:18 just still out there on the streets?
17:19 Well, my grandmother,
17:20 she was a Seventh-day Adventist.
17:22 Okay, she was a Seventh-day Adventist.
17:23 Did she introduce you to Seventh-day Adventism?
17:27 Actually I became a Seventh-day Adventist
17:29 because of this young lady named Janice Wolman.
17:33 She changed my life a whole lot.
17:35 I was having Bible studies and stuff like that
17:38 and she came to the neighborhood
17:42 and we were talking and she said,
17:45 "Why don't you come to church with me?"
17:47 And I came to church with her and I've been going ever since.
17:51 Okay. Okay.
17:52 Now what have you seen from studying the Bible,
17:55 going to church,
17:57 have you seen it change your life,
17:59 your mentality, your actions
18:01 what have you seen from that?
18:02 Well, I think before I act now. Okay.
18:06 So that means before you were just acting.
18:07 Just acting.
18:09 Okay, that's most of us. I think before I act now.
18:11 I have a lot much love in my heart now
18:14 'cause at first I just didn't care.
18:17 I felt like the world was against me.
18:19 I always felt like I had to fight
18:21 so praise God for that peace.
18:23 Okay, Now, where do you think
18:25 that don't care attitude comes from?
18:27 Just how I grew up. Okay.
18:30 Just how I grew up, just really just not caring,
18:34 just thinking about only myself.
18:35 Okay, so, you know, yeah we do kind of,
18:37 you know, on the streets
18:39 we kind of get into our own little bubble,
18:40 it's all about me, you know, my money,
18:42 my this, my that,
18:44 you know, and it's a blessing that,
18:46 that you could walk away from it
18:47 and make that change.
18:49 Now you eventually left Baltimore
18:51 and moved to Chattanooga, Tennessee.
18:53 Talk a little bit about that?
18:55 Well, I have always been back and forth,
18:58 but this last time I actually came to Chattanooga
19:01 and I end up staying for good.
19:07 Okay, was your grandmother, was family...
19:10 Yes, my grandmother, my mother,
19:13 sisters and brothers,
19:14 half of my family on my mother's side.
19:16 So you have family between Baltimore and Chattanooga.
19:18 Right, right.
19:19 Okay, so in Chattanooga is when you started to learn
19:24 about the Seventh-day Adventist Church
19:25 about that's when you started Bible studies
19:28 and things like that, right?
19:29 Right, right.
19:31 Okay, and what church you attend in Chattanooga?
19:33 Orchard Park Seventh-day Adventist Church.
19:34 Okay, okay.
19:36 So you, you have seen this change come in your life,
19:40 you find joy in this change that has come in your life?
19:42 I do.
19:44 Speak about the difference between that empty feeling
19:47 that you had when you were "in the world"
19:51 versus that inner peace that you have now?
19:55 I was always sad before. Okay.
19:57 Always sad, never happy, always struggling
20:01 like I'm just carrying the weight of the world
20:03 on my shoulders.
20:04 And now it's just I'm at peace
20:08 like it takes a lot for me to get
20:11 to that point of sadness now.
20:14 Okay, so God pretty much gave you that inner peace,
20:17 that inner joy that you didn't have before, right?
20:21 You know, that is very beautiful
20:22 and I can attest to that from my own lifestyle
20:26 when I was out there in the streets
20:28 I wasn't happy, you know, sure the highs are good,
20:31 you know at the time,
20:32 but when it wears off you're back to reality.
20:35 You know, the marijuana wears off,
20:36 the coke wears off, the x wears off,
20:38 all those things wears off and you're back to reality
20:42 and it's like you're chasing it all over again.
20:45 Did you kind of have that experience where,
20:46 you know, you smoke the weed,
20:48 we have about three hours and then
20:49 you're back to chasing it all over again?
20:52 Yes, not only with marijuana, with alcohol as well.
20:55 Okay. I battled with both of them.
20:59 When I get upset there I go to the store.
21:03 Getting something to drink or getting a blunt
21:05 or that was my stress reliever so.
21:07 Okay, so when you began to make that transition in your life,
21:11 how difficult was it to, to let go off the marijuana
21:15 or let go of the alcohol?
21:17 Well, it was very easy to let go off the marijuana.
21:21 It became difficult letting go off the alcohol.
21:24 Okay. Now, why is that?
21:27 I found that's where I found my comfort.
21:29 Okay, okay.
21:30 So you found comfort in the alcohol,
21:33 but the marijuana was easy to let go.
21:35 Yeah, it was very easy to let go
21:37 because it was just a...
21:38 just I want to keep my mind at easing.
21:41 Just kind of something to do.
21:43 Okay, okay. That's understandable.
21:45 Now, throughout all this time period
21:47 while you were in the streets and things like that,
21:49 did you ever or did you ever have a legal job
21:51 or was it just pretty much all streets?
21:53 No, I had a couple of legal jobs.
21:56 Okay, what were some of the various places
21:58 that you used to work at?
22:01 Cradle to Crayon which is a day care.
22:03 Okay. McDonalds, Wendy's.
22:06 Okay. Popeyes.
22:09 Okay, but now it's interesting,
22:12 okay, you're involved in ministry now
22:14 Stop the Violence,
22:15 and we'll talk more about that in part two.
22:21 Being in Stop the Violence
22:22 that's what you really want to do,
22:24 that's where your heart is, being involved in ministry.
22:26 At what point in your life did God instilled that in you,
22:30 do you feel that he was calling you to some form of ministry.
22:34 I knew it was always in me. Okay.
22:36 I just was ignorant, didn't, wasn't ready for it.
22:40 And when I sit there awhile did I spoke about earlier
22:44 is when everything just started to manifesting.
22:48 And I took heed to it and I stopped and I said,
22:51 okay, Latoya, it's not about you,
22:53 it's time to help make a difference in your community
22:55 and that's what I did.
22:56 Okay, at what age did you start to make that transition
22:59 from the street life to the life
23:02 that you're living now?
23:03 About three years ago.
23:05 About three years so you're about 25 years old.
23:07 I got baptized at Orchard Park.
23:10 Okay, okay, that's interesting.
23:11 You know, for me it was 25 years old too
23:14 when I decided to make the change
23:15 and it wasn't easy, you know,
23:17 wasn't easy when I decided I was still involved
23:20 with the snorting coke,
23:23 the heroin, ecstasy, the various things
23:25 I've been doing things for years and that,
23:29 a particular night
23:30 when I decided to make that change
23:32 I was determined, I was determined
23:35 that I had enough of this lifestyle,
23:37 you know, and I'm gonna start reading the Bible
23:39 though later on that day, you know,
23:41 get high whatever it may be.
23:44 I was determined to do what was right,
23:47 and it's very hard, right.
23:48 It's very, very hard trying to make that transition
23:51 from sin to a life of Christ
23:54 because naturally we're prone towards evil.
23:57 So did you find it like, did you find like a tug,
24:00 like a tug of war between that lifestyle
24:03 and the lifestyle that you're living now?
24:04 I did, I did, I fought with it a lot,
24:07 and I fought with it in both ways,
24:09 something did I knew I had to do for me
24:13 and just breaking that change from my family background.
24:17 Okay, okay.
24:18 Now when you say breaking the chain
24:20 of your family background,
24:21 what do you mean do you mean just...
24:23 The fight and the drugs use, the selling drugs,
24:26 the weapons and just the deceit...
24:33 Pretty much doing something
24:34 breaking the chains of doing something different than,
24:36 than what your family where you were used to,
24:39 used to being involved with, right?
24:42 Now, what encouragement
24:44 or what words could you give young people that,
24:47 you know, they want to gravitate to this life,
24:49 you know, they're young they're 15, 14, 13 years old
24:54 and they want the fast money,
24:55 you know, they want the fast cars,
24:57 they want these things,
24:58 what words of encouragement would you give them
25:01 to keep them from their lifestyle
25:02 or to try to keep them from their lifestyle?
25:05 I would say just a bowl for Jesus.
25:08 Walking in right direction and know that you can do it.
25:11 Okay, okay, and because of,
25:15 because of that change that you made,
25:19 you are, mentally you're different,
25:22 physically you're different, spiritually you're different,
25:24 everything about you is different now, correct?
25:26 Correct. Okay.
25:27 So the things that you do now
25:30 the way that you handle situations now like,
25:33 okay, somebody makes you mad,
25:34 somebody makes you mad, what do you do now?
25:37 I walk away now. Okay.
25:39 And before what would you do?
25:40 We're fighting. You're fighting.
25:43 We're fighting. Okay.
25:45 Do you find it hard to walk away?
25:47 Not, no more, I used to. Okay.
25:50 In the beginning stages it was very hard for me to walk away.
25:53 Now, why do you think in the beginning stages it was,
25:55 it was difficult to walk versus now?
25:58 I was say 'cause I was just starting.
26:00 I was just, you know, getting my feet warm in Christianity
26:04 and still had a quick temper,
26:08 just battling with the streets and trying to transform to...
26:16 The lifestyle that you lives now,
26:17 this is very, very important stuff,
26:19 the lifestyle that you live now,
26:24 the old lifestyle pales in comparison
26:26 to the lifestyle you live now, correct?
26:30 The attractions, the addictions, those things,
26:33 do they still haunt you a little bit to say,
26:36 well, look, you know,
26:38 maybe I should try to go back and do it this way
26:40 or maybe I should try to go back
26:41 and do it that way,
26:43 or do you have that
26:44 just complete inner peace from that stuff?
26:46 I have inner peace. Okay.
26:48 I have inner peace, and the reason
26:50 that I have inner peace is that I stayed prayed up.
26:53 Amen, amen.
26:54 Do you think that God kind of brought you
26:56 to the bottom of the barrel where, you know,
27:00 you really had no option but to look up?
27:03 Okay, and it was similar for me in my situation,
27:05 I felt the same exact way and, you know,
27:08 I couldn't do anything but look to Jesus, you know,
27:11 the friends weren't doing it, the drugs weren't doing it,
27:13 nothing was satisfying anymore,
27:15 and I'm sure you can attest to that, right?
27:17 Right. Okay, okay.
27:19 So now, I want you to look at the camera,
27:21 look at your camera,
27:22 and I want you to really talk to that young female
27:25 that is in your situation or has been in your situation
27:29 and doesn't know where to go in life.
27:31 Talk to them for the next ten seconds?
27:33 I would say just take your time,
27:35 pray, give, just let it go, let go unto God.
27:38 Okay, okay. Let go and let God.
27:40 Okay, truly, truly your testimony
27:43 coming from the mean streets of Baltimore,
27:45 the gang life, the drug life,
27:47 and now serving God in ministry form.
27:51 Praise the Lord for that.
27:52 We'd like to thank you
27:54 for tuning into The New Journey.
27:55 Please be sure to tune into part two
27:57 of this amazing testimony.
27:59 God bless.