Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Aaron Chancy
Series Code: TNJ
Program Code: TNJ000060
00:10 Welcome to The New Journey,
00:11 a program where you meet real life people
00:13 with real life testimonies,
00:15 doing real life ministry for Jesus Christ.
00:17 I'm your host Aaron Chancy.
00:19 Come join us on The New Journey.
00:53 Hello, and welcome to The New Journey.
00:55 Now I know that
00:57 you're used to seeing Aaron Chancy in this chair
01:00 and the guest that he is interviewing in that chair.
01:04 But Aaron has such a compelling story,
01:06 that we both felt impressed to bring that story to you.
01:10 And so, Aaron is on the hot seat.
01:14 Yes, indeed.
01:16 Aaron, it's so good to have you as the host
01:19 on The New Journey.
01:20 Thank you.
01:22 You have such an interesting story.
01:24 God has brought you such a mighty long way.
01:27 Yes, definitely.
01:28 Tell us a bit about your background.
01:32 Where were you born?
01:34 Well, I was actually born in Michigan,
01:36 and, but I didn't live there that long.
01:38 We were actually there for few months
01:40 and we left Michigan.
01:41 And my parents, they eventually got into the military.
01:45 They realized that,
01:47 you know, we didn't have that much money.
01:49 So they each decided, they went into the military.
01:51 My mom is a officer, my father is enlisted.
01:54 And this provided the funds necessary
01:56 that we needed.
01:58 And at a young age,
01:59 it took us to various places in the world.
02:01 I lived in Germany for three years,
02:03 lived in Hawaii for three years.
02:05 So I got to see certain things
02:06 that other young people of my age hadn't seen.
02:09 And I remember one thing, you know, my dad said,
02:12 at one point things got very difficult,
02:14 you know, finances and all,
02:16 that he could have easily left the home,
02:18 just as many people do, you know,
02:20 and the kids are grown up by a single mother.
02:22 But he said, you know what,
02:23 I don't want to be like everybody else.
02:25 I don't want the kids be in a statistic
02:27 and decided to stay.
02:29 So they stayed together,
02:30 my parents are still married as of today.
02:33 And but being that, they were in the military,
02:36 it took us various places around the world.
02:38 So we had that benefit
02:39 myself and my brother Adam Chancy,
02:41 seeing different parts of the globe
02:43 that other people have not seen.
02:45 So at what point did you start moving around,
02:48 how old were you?
02:49 I remember, when we left Michigan,
02:51 probably when I was, maybe a couple of months old.
02:54 I really don't even remember living there like that.
02:57 We lived in different parts of the United States.
02:59 Lived in Philadelphia with my grandmother
03:01 for a little while,
03:02 lived in North Carolina,
03:04 lived in Texas a number of times.
03:06 We always seem to move places
03:07 and we always seem to move back to Texas,
03:09 either to Killeen, San Antonio, just different parts of Texas.
03:13 So the moving around was constant
03:15 up until from probably little bit after I was born,
03:18 up until probably around 14, 15 years old.
03:23 That was something that I was used to.
03:25 And I think it affected me in a big way.
03:28 Where many people, they would get the joy of
03:32 going to different countries,
03:34 you know, seeing different things
03:35 especially at a young age,
03:36 because most people don't see those.
03:38 Most of my friends,
03:39 they have never been out of United States,
03:40 some of them hadn't even been out of the city
03:42 that they live in.
03:45 And it's just a reality.
03:46 A lot of African-Americans don't travel.
03:47 And so, I had that blessing.
03:50 But there was a downside to it.
03:52 Where doing a lot of traveling while my brother enjoyed
03:56 and it was kind of almost like a fairytale to him,
03:58 he got to see everything.
03:59 For me, it kind of started an identity crisis.
04:02 So where...
04:03 Okay, well,
04:05 I'm living in Germany for three years,
04:06 so I identify with Germans.
04:07 And at one point
04:09 I spoke better German than I spoke English
04:10 because I was there at a young age.
04:12 I was there probably from age 6, 7, and 8.
04:14 So you know, you're just learning language
04:16 at that time.
04:17 And I went to a school that was,
04:19 you know, primarily German.
04:20 And so, I actually spoke German at a time better than English.
04:23 So you're with this type of culture.
04:26 Then we left there,
04:28 we went back to Texas for a while.
04:30 And from there we went to Hawaii,
04:32 so now I am around a whole another
04:33 different type of culture.
04:34 So it's kind of like you get lost in the mix,
04:36 and it's like who am I really from all this moving around?
04:40 So there is a benefit to it,
04:42 you get to see different things around the globe.
04:44 But then, you can get lost in it.
04:47 So your own identity
04:49 hadn't really been firmly secured really
04:53 before you did all this moving,
04:55 so you kind of lost yourself as you said.
05:00 Yes, definitely, definitely.
05:01 What about the spiritual climate
05:02 in your home, what was that?
05:05 It was a great spiritual climate in my home.
05:07 I'm fortunate to come from
05:08 the Seventh-day Adventist background.
05:09 As I stated a second ago,
05:11 my mother and my father are still together.
05:12 Grew up, you know,
05:14 just like a lot of young people in Adventist church
05:15 going to pathfinders every Sunday.
05:18 Going to camporees, different things like that.
05:21 We have family worship in the household.
05:24 And as I get more into my story,
05:26 you realize the household I come from
05:27 is not typical for my lifestyle.
05:30 So we have family worship,
05:31 we went to church every Sabbath,
05:32 we went to prayer meeting Wednesday night.
05:34 We were at church, we were in the church.
05:36 But, you know, even though the family was in a church,
05:39 and we had,
05:40 you know, you go to people's houses
05:42 and you see the Bible, you see different books.
05:44 We had all the Spirit of Prophecy books
05:45 in the home.
05:46 And they weren't just there just to look good,
05:48 they were actually read.
05:49 My parent read the Spirit of Prophecy.
05:51 And it was the little, the real little red books.
05:53 And, you know, they would read them,
05:55 they had all of them,
05:56 not just the Conflict of the Ages series.
05:59 But ones like
06:00 Counsels on Diet and Foods, Ministry of Healing,
06:03 different ones that some people don't necessarily read.
06:06 So I saw all of this growing up.
06:08 And it was a great spiritual atmosphere.
06:11 Typically, like I say for, what I've got involved in,
06:14 a person doesn't come from my type of household
06:17 with both parents in the home.
06:18 And a great spiritual climate, where even I went to
06:21 a mixture of Seventh-day Adventist schools
06:23 as well as public schools.
06:25 So I had the tools necessary to be grounded in the truth.
06:31 But I hadn't experienced Jesus for myself.
06:34 And isn't that interesting thing, Aaron,
06:37 because in so many cases,
06:40 the parents might have that relationship with Christ,
06:44 but the kids don't.
06:46 Yeah, definitely.
06:47 And they haven't found them for themselves.
06:49 Yeah, true.
06:51 And so that was your experience.
06:52 Your parents were grounded,
06:54 your parents had the relationship.
06:56 But you didn't.
06:58 Yeah, definitely, definitely.
06:59 And so, what did that mean to you
07:02 in terms of your development?
07:04 Well, I think because I didn't have...
07:07 Number one, my identity as myself.
07:09 It's kind of like I don't necessarily know I am.
07:11 So I just pull from various types of people.
07:14 I would basically pull from
07:16 what I like from various types of people
07:18 and incorporate that into myself.
07:19 We call that syncretic by the way.
07:22 I didn't know there was a term for it.
07:24 Where you take difference beliefs, you know,
07:25 and you say, okay, I like this belief
07:27 and like that one, and I like that one...
07:28 Okay, let's put all together and start a denomination.
07:31 I mean, that's kind of way.
07:32 Okay. I really like that.
07:34 Yeah. Okay.
07:35 That's kind of way.
07:36 And that's kind of what I do with my character.
07:38 I pull from
07:39 various different types of groups of people,
07:40 and I incorporated that within myself.
07:43 And even with the household,
07:46 you know, myself
07:47 not having that relationship with Jesus for myself
07:51 I mean it caused a lot of conflict,
07:52 because, you know,
07:54 of course you're living in a home,
07:55 you have to do what your parents say,
07:57 different things like that.
07:58 But unless you have
07:59 a relationship of your own with Jesus,
08:03 you really not gonna see the value of it.
08:05 Just like, I didn't understand the Sabbath.
08:07 And I think a lot of times,
08:08 we think that because we come from a good home,
08:11 where the parents, you know, and I have children myself.
08:14 And we think that,
08:15 okay, we're going to church, we're going to prayer meeting,
08:17 different things like that.
08:18 So they should know these truths,
08:20 they should know why we do them.
08:21 And I remember one of my friends,
08:23 one of my best friends,
08:24 when I was around in a fifth grade.
08:26 And he asked about the Sabbath,
08:29 now I know what answer to give him,
08:30 because I studied these things out for myself.
08:33 But at that point,
08:34 even though I've been in church my whole life.
08:36 Seventh-day Adventist church my whole life.
08:37 The answer that I gave him was...
08:39 What was his question exactly?
08:41 Well, his question was, well,
08:42 what can you do on a Sabbath?
08:44 And what can you not do on a Sabbath or on Saturday,
08:46 he used the word Saturday.
08:49 And the answer that I gave him was,
08:51 well, if I don't...
08:52 let's just say for instance,
08:54 if I don't watch football during the week,
08:55 then I can watch football on Saturday.
08:57 Because my concept was
08:59 what I don't do during the week,
09:00 I can do it on Sabbath.
09:02 But what I do, do on...
09:03 What I don't do on Sabbath, I can do during the week.
09:06 So it's just like a work sense of it.
09:08 I didn't...
09:09 Wow, much harder.
09:11 I didn't quiet understand it.
09:12 So if I didn't watch secular TV during the week,
09:14 then I can watch secular TV on the Sabbath.
09:15 You see, what I am saying.
09:17 Wow, okay.
09:18 That's the answer that I gave him
09:20 and it's interesting like I said,
09:21 I grew up in the church.
09:23 So it's like I should know this stuff.
09:24 Grew up going to Sabbath school,
09:26 you know, my parent firmly believed
09:27 in all that stuff.
09:30 What you had though was this concept of
09:34 what happens on Sabbath is different
09:37 from what happens during the week,
09:38 and that's true.
09:40 And that part is right.
09:41 But it was just that.
09:43 You know, little too warm.
09:44 It just worked a little.
09:45 But yeah,
09:47 but you did have the part right about
09:48 Sabbath is a different day.
09:49 It's different than every other day.
09:51 Yeah, that's it, that's it.
09:52 Yeah, so what happened
09:54 when you answered your friend like that,
09:55 did he get it,
09:56 did it seem strange to him?
09:58 Well, he didn't really understand it.
09:59 And I think, he was a little bit older to me,
10:00 but it really didn't make sense,
10:02 like why is that,
10:03 because he went to church on Sunday
10:04 and it was just a regular.
10:06 You know, for a lot of my friends
10:07 that went to church on Sunday, it's just like any other day.
10:10 You just...
10:11 you go to church, but then you come home,
10:13 you watch football, you do whatever,
10:14 you enjoy the same pleasures that you do it on the week,
10:17 its not separated like a holy day for most,
10:20 where as for the Sabbath,
10:21 you know,
10:22 it's separate than every other day of the week.
10:24 That's how God ordained it from the beginning of the time.
10:26 It's different than the other six days.
10:28 And I didn't realize that as a young person.
10:30 I didn't know how to explain that.
10:32 So I think one important aspect in parenting,
10:36 even though the children are in Seventh-day Adventist home
10:38 learning the truth, know the truth,
10:39 going to different things.
10:41 It's still important for us as parents
10:42 to talk to the children about
10:44 what we believe and why we believe it.
10:45 And even to show them where it's found
10:47 using sort of an acronym what Pastor Carlton Byrd uses.
10:50 I says, now what you believe, why you believe,
10:52 and where it's found.
10:53 Because even as young people,
10:54 we can be a witness to our friends.
10:57 And if I would have understand it fully,
10:59 not just from-
11:01 If it would've been more experimental for me
11:03 and understanding it in my life,
11:04 I could've been a better witness to my friend
11:06 to explain the Sabbath to him,
11:08 and he could have possibly taken it back to his parents.
11:10 But I didn't necessarily know it like this.
11:13 So I think it's key for us to talk to our children about
11:16 what we actually believe, why we do it.
11:18 And place Jesus in the center of all of it.
11:21 Jesus, and our relational Jesus in the center of it.
11:23 And that is the keyword I think "relational."
11:26 Definitely, definitely.
11:28 Because, otherwise it is ritualistic.
11:31 And so, let's get back to how you grew up,
11:35 because you grew up
11:37 as an Adventist...
11:38 Yeah, definitely.
11:39 You grew up going to church.
11:41 When did you get on that wrong path?
11:43 The dark side. The dark side.
11:45 Yeah, okay. Yeah.
11:46 How did the dark side come out?
11:49 You know, a lot of young people,
11:51 especially a lot of young African-American males,
11:53 we have a strong pull towards sports,
11:57 basketball and football mainly.
11:59 And I always grew up loving football.
12:01 My dad was a football fan,
12:03 most of my family were all football fans.
12:06 And so I grew up watching it, playing it, just loving it.
12:09 I loved to play outside, love being outside.
12:11 So this was like my goal
12:13 just like, this is what I'm gonna do,
12:14 I know that's what I'm gonna do.
12:16 I'm gonna either play basketball or football.
12:17 You know, people would say
12:19 I mean that you're too small, you're too short,
12:20 you're too this, you're too that.
12:21 I didn't care, you know, that didn't matter.
12:23 I knew what I was gonna do.
12:25 I had a gentleman asked me one time,
12:26 I think I was around eleven, and he asked me,
12:28 "So what are you gonna do about the Sabbath?"
12:30 And that kind of turned me off from the Sabbath,
12:32 because I'm eleven,
12:34 I didn't know what I want to do.
12:36 And I didn't know how to rationalize.
12:37 I didn't have a relationship with Jesus,
12:39 to care enough about the Sabbath
12:40 at that point.
12:42 I cared about sports and I knew that I loved it.
12:44 This is what I was tied to.
12:45 And as I stated,
12:47 I went through a mixture of Adventist schools,
12:49 Seventh-day Adventist church schools,
12:50 as well as public schools.
12:52 And I knew that
12:54 I needed to be in public schools
12:55 if I wanted to get somewhere.
12:57 So I kind of had a resentment
12:59 towards Seventh-day Adventist schools,
13:01 'cause these schools aren't gonna get me to where
13:03 I want to be in sports.
13:04 And I need to be in public school,
13:06 and so I ended up going to a mixture of both.
13:10 And the public schools,
13:12 you know, I ended up getting into trouble
13:13 in number of them.
13:14 Just because, this is not where I knew,
13:16 I needed to be to get where I wanted to be.
13:18 What kind of trouble?
13:20 Well, I was kicked out of one, just,
13:23 you know, messing with females,
13:25 different things like that,
13:26 that I shouldn't be doing.
13:27 Smoking marijuana, stealing different things,
13:31 just petty stuff like that
13:33 that shouldn't be doing at Adventist school
13:35 or shouldn't be doing.
13:37 Right, right.
13:38 But, you know, no, tolerance and, you know,
13:39 getting kicked out, getting suspended,
13:41 different things like that.
13:42 I made a threat one time on a couple of students
13:44 that I was gonna kill them.
13:46 And, you know, just not tolerated.
13:49 So when I realized that
13:50 my dream of sports was just slipping away,
13:53 either because I wouldn't go to school,
13:55 because I was always going to
13:57 a mixture of Adventists schools and public schools,
13:59 or I couldn't make to grade.
14:01 Then it's kind of like, what was left?
14:04 I remember when I was 16,
14:05 my dad asked me and my brother,
14:06 we were driving in the car living in San Antonio.
14:08 And he asked us both, "What do y'all want to be
14:11 when you grow up or what do you wanna do?"
14:13 And my brother gave all his stuff,
14:15 he kind of always had his stuff mapped out
14:17 what he wanted to do.
14:18 And even though he had his little vices,
14:20 sorry Adam for saying that, but...
14:23 He always had his little vices,
14:25 but he knew what he wanted to do.
14:28 Where my dreams are sports, went south.
14:31 The only thing that I could think of
14:33 to tell my dad was, I just want a car.
14:34 You know, that's all I want.
14:35 I just want a car, 'cause I knew, if I get me a car,
14:37 I know what I'm gonna do around San Antonio.
14:39 I'm a beat, you know,
14:41 I was already doing all types of stuff.
14:42 But now I didn't have to rely on bus,
14:43 so I didn't have to rely on somebody to pick me up.
14:46 So being that I had no vision anymore,
14:49 I started to look at other people, and see like wow.
14:52 I notice my friends that will go to school.
14:54 And I would notice 15, 16 year old kids
14:58 come to school with tattoos all over their bodies.
15:00 Gold teeth in the mouth,
15:02 and that's a big thing in Texas,
15:03 for the younger people,
15:04 as well as they would have women,
15:07 and they would have cars,
15:08 with rims on them, and system in the truck.
15:10 Now I see that stuff as trivial.
15:12 You know, that stuff, whatever.
15:14 You know, a lot of are so satanic or whatever.
15:16 But I didn't know that at that time.
15:17 I just knew, this is what I wanted.
15:19 And I found out that a lot of them,
15:21 they were selling drugs, they were robbing,
15:23 different things like that.
15:24 And it was fast money.
15:25 So my addiction to that lifestyle started
15:28 with that fast money.
15:30 Just seeing how fast I could get a $1000.
15:32 And to know, okay, if I work here at a job,
15:35 I worked at a Luby's cafeteria
15:36 in San Antonio for a while.
15:38 I worked for two weeks, get a check, $200.
15:41 And I'm seeing friends that's working,
15:44 putting in an hour in the streets,
15:46 coming with $1000.
15:48 It didn't weigh out to me, you know.
15:49 And my parents weren't the type to say,
15:52 if I went to them,
15:53 that they would just give me what I wanted.
15:55 I didn't have, I didn't grow...
15:56 We were always like lower middle class,
15:58 but I didn't have a silver spoon in my mouth
16:00 where was, you know, okay,
16:01 you can get what you ask for.
16:02 My dad would pretty much say,
16:04 you got to work for it,
16:05 and this work just had no appeal to me.
16:08 Well, because you were watching
16:09 your friends who were making...
16:12 You didn't want to work for work sake.
16:14 Yeah. Definitely, sure.
16:16 You weren't trying to just work for work sake.
16:17 You were trying to work and make the most money
16:20 that you could in the shortest amount of time,
16:22 with the least amount of effort, right?
16:24 Definitely. Yeah, 100 percent.
16:26 What role did hip-hop play in drawing you into that?
16:31 Well, hip-hop played a great big role for me.
16:33 People want to say that,
16:35 TV is just entertainment, music is just entertainment.
16:37 That's a blatant lie,
16:39 because we know from the word of God,
16:40 that when Satan was Lucifer in heaven,
16:42 he made music.
16:44 So when he got kicked out of heaven,
16:45 he didn't lose that power,
16:46 he didn't lose that desire for music.
16:48 So all he's done is come down here to earth,
16:51 as the Bible said
16:52 "Woe to the inhibitors of the earth,
16:53 for the devil has come down having great wrath."
16:55 He's come down and he's using all same things,
16:58 that same music as a tool to get people's attention.
17:01 And he knows that the pull that hip-hop
17:04 has upon young people.
17:06 I remember when I was doing a presentation
17:09 at a church one time, after I changed my life.
17:11 And I was doing it on hip-hop.
17:13 And I went to the founder of hip-hop,
17:15 his name is Afrika Bambaataa.
17:17 I went to his webpage
17:18 and I noticed something interesting.
17:20 as soon as I clicked on the webpage,
17:22 it was like this Indian man with six arms,
17:26 he had six arms going around his body
17:29 and on each of those arms, he had something in his hand.
17:32 And then it started to talk about
17:33 the five elements of hip-hop.
17:35 And it mentioned the B boy, the B girl,
17:38 different things like that.
17:40 And it said the most important element
17:42 that all true hip-hop artists know is
17:45 that the knowledge of yourself as God.
17:47 And when I saw that, I was like wow,
17:49 and as you look at each of those arms.
17:51 On some of those arms,
17:53 they each had satanic symbols on them.
17:55 And I was like, wow,
17:56 and I went back to the book "Great Controversy"
17:58 and I looked, I have the illustrative version,
18:00 and had some of these pictures on there.
18:02 And I was like, wow, this is on as hip-hop page.
18:05 And I realized then,
18:06 and I realized that that's the same thing
18:08 that Satan told Eve in the very beginning,
18:11 when he broke down all her senses.
18:13 He said, "You shall be as Gods, knowing good and evil."
18:16 And that's the same repeated lie
18:17 that has been going on for ever.
18:19 And as Afrika Bambaataa put it,
18:21 that all true hip-hop artists know
18:23 that the knowledge of self as God,
18:26 is the most important element.
18:27 So I saw how it had a great pull up on me to where,
18:31 I mean I just lived hip-hop,
18:33 I just breathed hip-hop, I loved it.
18:35 And I remember even my dad saying one time
18:37 where he was like,
18:38 you know, and he is not for TV,
18:40 just sitting around watching TV.
18:41 But he was like, "Man, just watch TV or something."
18:43 'Cause I would literally sit in my room for hours
18:46 and pump this music in my head.
18:48 And watch BET hip-hop video...
18:50 it had a strong impact upon me.
18:51 You know, one of my big things,
18:54 you know, is...
18:57 I host a program called Urban Report.
19:00 And, one of my big, big issues, Aaron,
19:04 is the affect of hip-hop music on our communities.
19:09 For one thing...
19:11 and we have a program called "TKS",
19:14 True knowledge of Self.
19:16 Because one of the things that happens is...
19:19 It's new age thought. Yeah.
19:21 It's old, but it's new age thought, where man is God.
19:27 And it's a satanic, demonic thing
19:29 where man wants to be elevated to the level of God.
19:31 To that level. Definitely.
19:33 And the music,
19:35 music combined with rhythm and rhyme,
19:39 gets into your subconscious mind
19:41 and shapes those values.
19:43 So you begin to look at women as objects.
19:46 Yeah. Exactly.
19:47 You begin to think that I'm all that.
19:49 A lot of that rap stuff, you know,
19:51 the swag, all of that stuff that goes with it.
19:53 Yeah, swag.
19:55 You know, it's like, you know,
19:56 I'm the man, I'm this, I'm that.
19:58 Definitely. It's all about me.
20:01 And it's so antithetical to what God's about.
20:05 And so that's why,
20:07 I'm big on the impact that hip-hop has had
20:12 on our young people and continues to have.
20:15 So you're saying that in your life,
20:17 hip-hop drew you into
20:20 this other way of thinking and looking at life.
20:22 Definitely, definitely.
20:23 Because I remember watching music videos,
20:26 and money being thrown around,
20:28 and different things like that.
20:29 And just listening to the word.
20:30 I wasn't one that just listen to a good beats.
20:33 Some people try to say,
20:34 well, they're just listening to the beat.
20:36 Whatever that's nonsense too.
20:37 Because there's no way you can just listen
20:38 to that without the words getting in you.
20:40 That's right. Yeah, that's not the...
20:41 Even if you don't realize it, they are getting in there.
20:42 That's straight nonsense.
20:44 And I remember,
20:45 just listening to these words,
20:48 and I mean, I would tune into the way,
20:50 I could feel them in me.
20:51 And I remember one time,
20:53 one of my cousins just asked me man, like,
20:54 "Why can't you change your life?"
20:56 And I told him straight, I said,
20:57 "It's the music man, the music is in me."
20:59 And it's just like,
21:00 I had a demonic pull within me strong with that music.
21:04 And I remember one time,
21:06 I looked at something that Tupac had to say.
21:08 I used to listen to Tupac pretty hard.
21:10 And it was one time,
21:11 when he's in incarcerated he did an interview.
21:13 And he said, he told people straight,
21:14 he said, "Don't just bob your head to the music."
21:16 He said, "If you listen to my words,
21:17 my words are spiritual."
21:19 You know what I'm saying.
21:20 So they're actually having an impact upon.
21:22 And he knew it.
21:23 And he said it straight up.
21:25 That gives me a chill.
21:26 And a lot of people don't realize that,
21:28 that music is spiritual and it's pleasing.
21:30 He said specifically, "Listen to what I'm saying,
21:32 don't just bob your head to this music."
21:34 Because stuff is coming into you as you're listening
21:37 and a lot of people don't realize that.
21:39 And it shaped me, and it changed me
21:41 and it let me down that path for selling drugs,
21:44 of robbing people.
21:45 My first time incarcerated was at 16,
21:47 for burglary charge.
21:49 Then my next charge was...
21:51 I didn't even complete that,
21:52 I did a week in juvenile center.
21:54 I got out, and I was on probation,
21:57 and I was on a year, for year probation at Texas.
22:00 And couldn't complete that
22:02 because, you know, my mind hadn't changed.
22:04 And I saw some money, you know,
22:06 some fast money and just hooked, addicted.
22:09 And I eventually got locked up again,
22:11 not even a year later, when I was 17,
22:14 this time I was charged as an adult.
22:16 At 17 years old, now I'm in a big house,
22:18 now I'm in jail with people
22:20 who had murdered, people that have raped,
22:22 all different types of things.
22:24 And I ended up,
22:25 it was a home invasion charge,
22:27 second degree home invasion charge
22:29 with a couple of other charges that I had with that
22:31 which I think they classed it as a second degree felony.
22:34 And I was looking at like,
22:35 three and half to five and half years sentence.
22:37 But since it was my first time as an adult,
22:40 they differed that and I ended up
22:42 going to prison boot camp, where I served three months,
22:45 then I went to a halfway house for a month.
22:48 Well, the reason it's halfway house is
22:49 'cause you are halfway locked up,
22:51 and you're halfway back home, so it's a halfway.
22:53 And that's kind of getting you reintegrated
22:55 back into society as well.
22:57 So I was there for a month.
22:59 I got out and they put me on house arrest,
23:01 while I had this tethering thing on my ankle.
23:03 And I was on three years probation at that time.
23:07 Again didn't complete that once again,
23:09 'cause my mind hadn't changed.
23:11 And still addicted to money, still addicted to women,
23:14 still addicted to the music, all these types of things.
23:16 And then I ended up catching another charge
23:21 when I was 19 years old.
23:23 And because I already had priors,
23:25 this is the charge, they sent me to the prison.
23:27 They called it engaging in criminal activities
23:29 where I had robbed a bank,
23:31 where I broke into the bank late at night,
23:33 as well as robbed a subway.
23:36 And so because I had priors,
23:38 this is what caused me to go to prison.
23:42 What were you thinking, Aaron, like,
23:44 where is my life going?
23:46 Well, at that point,
23:47 I think I was so high on drugs
23:50 constantly that you don't think.
23:52 I remember when we were going to
23:54 break into that bank that night.
23:55 I was talking to my friend, and I was like...
23:57 I mean really just gassing up his head like men,
23:59 "we are gonna get in there, we're going to get $75,000,
24:01 and you know, we didn't get nothing out of it,
24:03 by the way, you know.
24:04 And it's interesting how we do stuff,
24:05 and you get locked up with people.
24:07 And people did stuff, you did that for two dollars.
24:11 It is just interesting the stuff that we do.
24:13 You're not thinking.
24:14 You're controlled by another spirit.
24:15 You're controlled...
24:17 it is literally spirits of devils,
24:19 they are just guiding you.
24:20 And I remember that, you know,
24:23 we didn't get any thing out of that.
24:25 And I didn't think.
24:27 And because I know,
24:28 while we were talking to each other,
24:29 we were drinking 40's of,
24:31 40's of some kind of alcohol that day.
24:33 It was Bud Ice.
24:34 We were drinking 40's of those.
24:36 I probably consumed about four of those,
24:37 which is a lot of alcohol.
24:39 And it's like, I'm just not thinking,
24:41 I'm letting in the drugs, I'm letting in the alcohol,
24:43 just take over, and these are becoming
24:45 my mind to me to where
24:47 I'm just doing all types of nonsense, you know.
24:49 How did you find Jesus,
24:51 I mean I can't believe the time is going by so fast.
24:54 I mean, it's just...
24:55 and your story is so interesting.
24:57 How did you find Him?
24:58 Well, you know, it wasn't necessarily
25:01 through me being incarcerated,
25:04 because you know, I would have times in my life
25:06 where I'd try to change my life
25:07 but it had never stuck.
25:09 I didn't hit rock bottom enough.
25:10 So I got out of prison,
25:12 I started transporting pounds of marijuana
25:14 from Texas to North Carolina.
25:15 I moved there,
25:17 and even through that situation, robbed,
25:19 you know, I had a gun put in my face.
25:21 You know, I had been on car chases,
25:23 where people try to chase me and kill me
25:25 or whatever, all these various types of things.
25:27 But those still didn't get my attention.
25:29 It wasn't until in 2008,
25:31 I was running from the law real hard.
25:34 I moved to Baton Rouge, Louisiana in 2007.
25:37 And at that point I was using cocaine,
25:40 a little bit of heroin, I was using ecstasy,
25:42 I was popping prescription pills,
25:44 I was using marijuana,
25:45 I smoked a packet a day and I drank alcohol,
25:48 so all these things, and I have literally done
25:50 all of these things at one time.
25:52 I've been so high to where you just,
25:53 there's no higher that you can get.
25:55 There's no possible way out.
25:56 All you do is get sick.
25:58 And I was on a mission to overdose,
25:59 because I wanted to come to that point,
26:02 where I could just commit suicide,
26:04 so I was purposely trying to overdose,
26:06 but praise the Lord, it never happen.
26:07 So I remember, I'm talking real fast,
26:08 'cause time is short.
26:10 But I remember one specific night,
26:11 I was high on four drugs
26:13 and I had walked into my room in the house,
26:16 and when I walked into the room,
26:18 immediately a fear came upon me like never before.
26:21 And I knew something was in this room,
26:22 that didn't belong there.
26:24 I laid down on a mattress on the floor
26:25 and I looked up and I could see demons...
26:27 it's like a spirit world started revealing itself.
26:30 I could see demons moving above,
26:31 and I heard the Holy Spirit speaking to me at that point.
26:34 And he called my name, and I knew at that point,
26:36 when he said, "Aaron, you need
26:38 to get your life together or that's it."
26:40 I knew I was on the brink of the unpardonable sin,
26:42 I knew it.
26:43 When you run and you run and you're running,
26:44 you're tuning out the voice of the Lord.
26:46 But the beautiful thing is
26:48 God is going to chase you as long as possible,
26:51 as long as possible.
26:52 And I knew it, so at that point,
26:54 I came to this decision, and there is more in there
26:56 with my dad involved in all, but for the sake of time.
26:58 I knew it, so I made the decision that night
27:00 that I'm gonna serve the Lord.
27:02 I had hit rock bottom to the point
27:03 where all I could do is look up.
27:05 And that point,
27:06 it was a hard test coming to the Lord.
27:08 And I want to say that to you young people,
27:09 that it is a hard task coming to the Lord.
27:12 But you know what, as I did, I made a decision,
27:14 every single day, no matter what I did,
27:17 I'm gonna read the word.
27:18 no matter what I do, I'm gonna read the word
27:20 and I read Patriarchs and Prophets.
27:22 And as I did that, I noticed that,
27:24 as I came to Jesus, the drug started to stop,
27:27 the habits started to stop.
27:28 Now, it's been over six years
27:29 since I've been serving the Lord.
27:31 Praise God.
27:32 I mean, that is so...
27:34 You know, you can't loose when you serve the Lord.
27:37 You can't lose, but you gotta know Him.
27:39 Yeah, definitely. To want to serve Him.
27:41 Definitely, definitely.
27:42 Praise God that He has done this.
27:43 You are truly on The New Journey.
27:45 Amen. Amen.
27:47 I just want to say,
27:48 you're doing an outstanding job as a host.
27:50 Praise the Lord.
27:51 And we just praise the Lord for you.
27:52 Praise the Lord. Thank you.
27:54 I can't believe our time is up.
27:55 This was such a blessing.
27:57 Please join us next time on The New Journey,
27:59 where your host, Aaron Chancy,
28:01 will be hosting.
28:02 God bless you.
28:04 See you next time.