Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Ruben Carr
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000025
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00:01 Have you ever wondered what it's like to be homeless?
00:03 Stay tuned to hear the testimony of a man that was homeless 00:07 and now... homeward bound... 00:09 My name is Yvonne Lewis 00:10 and you're watching Urban Report... 00:33 Hello and welcome to Urban Report... 00:35 Our guest today is no stranger to us... here at 3ABN 00:39 in fact, Danny Shelton calls him his "earthly hero" 00:42 he has a powerful story to tell... 00:45 so let's welcome Ruben Carr to Urban Report 00:48 Yeah... Ruben... How're you doing Yvonne? 00:52 Oh great... praise the Lord how are you doing? 00:54 I can't get any better... 00:56 All right... all right... well that's good to know... 00:59 that's good to know... you know Ruben, 01:01 we kind of go back several years 01:04 and I found out about your story... 01:07 when I first started singing with 3ABN... 01:10 you actually brought me in... and we'll talk about that 01:13 a little bit later but... I want you to share your journey 01:16 with the viewers... because you have such a powerful 01:20 testimony... tell us about your journey... 01:23 Well, Yvonne, you know 01:25 as a lot of young black American males 01:29 I grew up in New York City... from a broken home... 01:34 and the pressure of life, I felt, got to my mom... 01:38 and she just saw it better for her... just to leave... 01:43 and at a young age... I was seventeen at that time, 01:47 and when I turned eighteen... 01:50 we are supposed to be already prepared for the world... 01:53 but I was never prepared for it the proper way... 01:55 when I grew up... 01:56 So how old were you when your mother left? 01:59 I was eighteen years old when she left... 02:01 but she was never there even when I was there... 02:04 if you know what I mean... Yes... yes... 02:07 physically she left when I was eighteen... 02:09 I was just out of High School... and I found myself 02:14 in a situation that a lot of teens today... 02:18 find themselves in... I was born with dyslexia... 02:21 I had myopia... so I was already born with a handicap 02:25 and it caused me not to be able to read as well as others... 02:32 and even today... it's a struggle... 02:34 but the Lord has blessed... but to make a long story short 02:38 I found myself living in the streets of Yonkers, New York... 02:42 Well now, wait one second, now, so Ruben... your mom left... 02:46 and you were eighteen... did you have siblings... 02:50 did you have grandparents... what was your family situation? 02:55 My family situation... we were not close at all... 02:59 in fact, I'll tell you a little more about that later on... 03:02 who I found... I hadn't seen in over 25 years, 03:06 we were not close... I had three sisters... 03:09 we were just from a broken home, 03:12 my youngest sister was living in Boston... 03:15 my older sister was working... 03:18 is still working today at the same place... 03:20 and the sister under me... was going through the same thing 03:23 but I was the only boy in the family at the time... 03:29 that I knew of... and what happened was 03:31 when she left... I was not prepared for the world 03:34 I wasn't able to read at that time... 03:36 Hmmm... and so, it was hard for me 03:39 to find a job... you always feel bad about yourself... 03:42 you don't feel good enough, you know, 03:44 you've been told all your life, 03:45 "You're no good... and you'll never amount to nothing" 03:48 and so it became a way of life for me... 03:51 Oh... so when I went out on the street 03:53 oh, I'm sorry... No, that's okay... 03:55 I didn't mean to interrupt you but I just want to kind of get 03:59 a few things straight... so, all your life... 04:01 you'd been in school... 04:03 but your teachers just kept passing you on... 04:07 from Grade to Grade... or did you drop out of School? 04:10 Well, they passed me on from Grade to Grade 04:13 at that time... nobody knew a lot about 04:16 my handicap... like they do today... 04:19 Hmmm... and nobody could figure out 04:21 what it was... but, you know, they just pass you on... 04:24 you know, just pass you along... and eventually they gave 04:27 me a High School Diploma, and I was not prepared... 04:32 for the world... 04:33 Wow! that has got to have been 04:37 so frustrating 04:38 and so frightening because your only anchor 04:42 your mother... was gone... was she a Christian at all... 04:46 did she teach you spiritual values at all? 04:50 No, my mother and father didn't get along 04:54 because my father was a casualty of Vietnam 04:57 coming back home... and I think 05:00 that's when all the trouble started... 05:01 my mother used to tell me she hated me 05:03 because I looked too much like my father... 05:05 and to hear that from your own mother... 05:08 and it just destroyed me as a person... 05:11 and I didn't have any good value of myself... 05:14 I had no confidence in myself at all... 05:17 and the strange thing about it is... 05:20 I'd never gotten into any trouble... 05:22 Wow! and that's the thing that 05:24 that bothered me the most... I was a good kid... 05:26 Yeah, and you know, I'm dwelling on this in part because 05:30 there are so many young boys like you 05:34 who might have dyslexia or some learning disability 05:39 and not feeling loved at home, and all of these things that 05:44 that contribute to low self esteem... 05:47 and to underachieving in School... 05:50 so your dad... was your father in the home... 05:53 had he left also... where was he during this time? 05:57 Well, you know, back then, 05:59 your father had to leave the home 06:00 in order for your mother to get "welfare" 06:04 to help with the family... 06:05 they split the family at that time... 06:08 so my father... he was a good guy, 06:10 he just had a lot of problems because of the war... 06:12 and so, we grew apart... 06:14 and the bad memories that my father had 06:18 with my mother... my mother remembered them 06:21 and I looked just like my father so you can best believe that 06:25 she'd remind me a lot of times of the things that happened 06:29 to him... with her... 06:31 This is another important point Ruben... 06:34 because there are so many single-parent households 06:37 with the mothers taking care of the children 06:40 and the fathers absentiating themselves from the home, 06:44 and one of the worst things you can do... 06:48 is hold that child responsible 06:51 for what the absent parent has done 06:54 or for any of the deficits or deficiencies or whatever... 06:58 and so many people do it, and that's why 07:01 I'm kind of dwelling on this, 07:04 because I want the viewers 07:06 that are going through similar situations... 07:08 to think about what they're doing to their children 07:12 and how it can really negatively affect them... 07:15 so, you're eighteen... your mom leaves... 07:19 your dad is not really there, and you find yourself... what? 07:24 I find myself living on the streets of Yonkers, New York, 07:28 sleeping in hallways... one time I walked from Yonkers 07:32 to White Plains Road to get the subway train... 07:35 I used to sleep on the trains, I slept in buildings and parks 07:39 you name it... and I was all over the place, 07:42 And how long did this go on? 07:45 Well, it went on for about a year 07:47 and then one day I was sleeping on Nepperhan Avenue... 07:52 and a young man saw me by the name of Robin Weber 07:55 and he looked at me he said, 07:56 "Man, why don't you come upstairs and sit down 07:58 and talk with me for a little bit... " 07:59 I thought that it was kind of strange 08:01 that somebody would reach out to me like that... 08:03 at that time... I'm nineteen years old... 08:05 then I went upstairs and I sat down 08:08 and I was sitting in the living room... 08:10 it was a Saturday afternoon... and he was telling me 08:13 we were watching the football game 08:14 and he was telling me about his father... 08:16 who can quote so many scriptures from the Bible... 08:19 from memory... Hmmm... 08:21 and so, I wasn't really paying attention... 08:23 but then there was a knock at the door... 08:26 and a man knocked on the door and he came in... 08:32 and he knew Robin... and he said, 08:34 "Robin, you know, we're having a Crusade... 08:35 at the Mount Vernon Seventh-day Adventist Church 08:38 and we would like for you to come... 08:40 his name is Jerry Gimmel... and I was sitting in the chair 08:44 across from Robin... and he looked at me and he said, 08:47 "You know, you can come too... " and I looked at him 08:50 and I said, "I had no way of getting there" 08:52 and I kind of put my head down, because I didn't want him 08:54 to know the situation I was in... 08:55 but then he looked at me and he said, 08:57 "I'll come and I'll pick you up and take you... " 09:01 Wow! so wait... this guy... knew that you were 09:04 living on the street or he just saw you 09:06 kind of wandering or sitting around 09:09 and invited you, invited you up? 09:12 I was sitting in the living room when he knocked on the door 09:15 he was coming for Robin... but when he saw me there 09:18 he didn't know me from Adam, 09:20 I'd never seen him before he'd never seen me... 09:22 Wow! but he invited me to Church 09:25 Wow, wow, so your first response... 09:28 when somebody invited you to Church... 09:31 your first emotional response what was it? 09:34 "I'm not good enough, why are you asking me, 09:37 who am I... I'm nobody... " 09:40 Hmmm... hmmm... and he said, 09:43 "I'll come and pick you up and take you" 09:46 So what happened from there? 09:48 Well, I told Robin that I didn't have any place to stay 09:52 if he was coming the next night, 09:55 so Robin allowed me to stay in his house for that night 09:58 and I had some spare clothes I'd carry around in a bag, 10:02 and he gave me some money to wash my clothes 10:05 I washed them... I used his iron 10:07 and I was ready to go to Church... 10:08 and he came that night... picked me up 10:11 and it was the Mount Vernon Seventh-day Adventist Church 10:13 they were having a Crusade with Pastor Smith... Doc Smith... 10:18 who is now deceased, he passed away a few years ago 10:21 Oh, he was my pastor in Poughkeepsie... for a while... 10:24 Doc Smith... wonderful, wonderful guy... 10:27 Yeah, I sat there... and I sat there and I listened to it 10:32 he was preaching on the three angels' messages... 10:34 and I sat there and I listened and I left... 10:37 Jerry didn't even see me... and I left... 10:40 and I walked back from Mount Vernon back to Yonkers 10:42 and I slept in the hallway that night... 10:45 and I said, "Lord, I'd like to go back... " 10:48 and I knocked on Robin's door the next morning... 10:51 and I said, 10:52 "When Jerry comes, tell him I'll meet him downstairs... " 10:54 I didn't even want Robin to really know 10:56 that I was out on the street, and so, I met him that night 11:01 when he came back... I had the same clothes on 11:03 I went back... and it went on for about 11:07 four weeks... and I was baptized in 1981 11:11 as a Seventh-day Adventist... 11:12 Wow! praise the Lord, so, when you heard these messages 11:18 what did that do for you... inside... 11:23 what did that do to you? 11:24 Well, I was so intent on listening to the messages 11:28 they gave me a book at the end of the Crusade 11:31 for coming every night... "Desire of Ages" 11:34 and I took that book, 11:36 he didn't even know that I couldn't read... 11:38 I was looking through it... 11:40 and I was looking at the pictures 11:43 and I saw the man on his knees saying, 11:46 "Lord, if thou would... thou can make me whole" 11:49 and I just looked at the pictures 11:51 I can see myself and anybody who had problems 11:54 I saw myself... 11:56 but then, when I looked up I saw Christ... 11:58 Wow! Ruben, you're getting ready to make me cry in here... 12:03 that is such a beautiful story and it's so powerful 12:07 because... it just shows how God can take 12:11 our lives that are broken... 12:13 you know, broken... 12:15 and we can be just in the pit of despair... 12:17 and He can show that He can make us whole... 12:20 if we just reach out to him... 12:23 And not only that Yvonne, as a Seventh-day Adventist, 12:26 I was still homeless... 12:27 for about another 8 to 9 months... 12:29 So you didn't let anybody know, Ruben, 12:32 that you needed a place to stay or anything? 12:34 Well, there were a lot of people who knew... 12:37 just at that time... I really believe that 12:39 they didn't know how to handle that type of situation... 12:42 Wow! 12:43 And eventually, what happened was 12:45 I did found a place to stay on the weekends... 12:47 these three families... I love them so much... 12:50 the Bucks family... the James family... 12:54 and the Foster family... they would switch every weekend 12:57 to allow me to stay there but during the week 12:59 I was out on my own... and I remember, 13:01 one February night... where I got really discouraged 13:04 and I said, "Lord, I can't keep living like this... " 13:08 so I was in Yonkers... and it was snowing... 13:11 I was sleeping inside the building on Nepperhan Avenue 13:13 Security Guard caught me... he put me out... 13:15 and I had to walk in the snow, so I walked from Yonkers 13:19 to Huguenot Street in New Rochelle... 13:21 and I went to sleep behind a building... 13:24 and I fell asleep back there and early that Friday morning... 13:28 a guy by the name of Andrew Bonaparte, 13:30 Owner of a Telecommunications Company 13:33 at the time in New Rochelle... saw me sitting there... 13:35 and he looked at me and he said, 13:37 "You know, you're here kind of early... " 13:39 and I didn't know what he was talking about 13:41 so he told me to come inside and he sat down 13:43 he started telling me about an opportunity 13:45 to be a Telecommunications Technician, 13:47 and I had no idea what he was talking about... 13:50 Come on now... come one now... this is awesome 13:53 so you're just... you're just sitting in the 13:57 in a space... trying to get warm Hmmm... hmmm... 13:59 and this man comes up to you 14:02 and thinks that you're there for a job? 14:04 Yeah... 14:06 Wow! look at how God works... he put you in that spot 14:10 at that time... 14:11 Right... and I went inside... he started interviewing me... 14:16 I didn't know what he was talking about 14:17 so I said, "Look, I can't even read, 14:19 and I don't write that well" 14:21 so he filled the application out for me... 14:24 he just looked at me and he says, 14:25 "I don't know why I'm doing this... 14:26 but something's telling me to do this... " 14:27 he looked me in the face, he told me, 14:30 "You think you can be here Monday morning for work?" 14:32 Oh! and I said, "I guess" 14:35 and I walked out the building... I walked back to Yonkers 14:39 I said to myself, 14:40 "I'm going to go to my sister's house... 14:42 I'm going to ask her for some money... 14:43 because I just got a job... 14:45 and I had to start on Monday at 8 o'clock... " 14:48 I saw her coming... it was a miracle... 14:51 I saw her coming down South Broadway, 14:54 I was coming up South Broadway, and I said, 14:57 "Sis, look, I got a job... 14:58 I just need some money to get to work... " 15:00 she said, "I don't have any money 15:01 but there's some mail for you at my house... " 15:04 so I went to the house... and there was a letter from the IRS 15:08 when I was in High School, 15:09 I used to work in the Special Ed Department 15:11 delivering mail to class rooms, and when I filled out 15:15 the Tax Exempt Form, 15:17 I put "one" instead of "zero" 15:20 because of not knowing I just put anything... 15:23 and they were taking taxes out of me... 15:25 and there was a check for $250 I'm sorry... it was $450... 15:31 back taxes... they were giving back to me 15:33 because I was a student 15:34 and I shouldn't have been taking taxes out... 15:37 and they were looking for me for two years 15:39 and they matched my Social Security Number 15:41 with my sister... and they sent the money there... 15:44 Wow! Ruben... this is powerful... 15:49 So, I mean, you know... when we think about God 15:53 and how He steps in right on time... 15:56 what were the chances... 15:57 this is New York... what were the chances... 16:00 the odds... so to speak... of you 16:02 "running into your sister" at that time... 16:04 on a busy street... in New York... 16:07 and then... you have money waiting for you 16:11 just what you need... waiting for you... there... 16:15 I mean... God had everything lined up for you... 16:19 He knew the plan that He has for you... 16:23 And the funny thing, Yvonne, I didn't mean to cut you off but 16:27 I didn't have any ID to even cash the check... 16:30 so I went inside the cash-checking place... 16:32 I wrote my name on the back of the check 16:34 the lady asked me for ID, I said that I didn't have any... 16:36 she said that she couldn't cash the check 16:38 but there was a guy that worked there 16:40 that I went to High School with, and he said, 16:42 "Well, I know him, you can cash it... " 16:43 and she cashed the check... 16:45 Wow! Ruben... this is so deep, this is so powerful... 16:52 so you cashed that check... 16:54 you have a job... 16:56 and the man said that he didn't even know 16:59 why he was doing it... but he felt compelled 17:01 to do it... and so he gave you that job 17:05 you got that money, and you started working there 17:09 what happened after that? 17:10 I worked there for about eight months... 17:13 and he was teaching me everything... 17:15 that I knew... I couldn't go to the School 17:18 because of my reading disability... 17:20 Right... so I would meet him after work 17:22 and he would actually hands-on teach me telephone systems, 17:25 how they work... how to program them... 17:28 and I moved up... of the guys that went to 17:30 School and were certified... I knew more than they did 17:33 in eight months... and I was one of the 17:35 Senior Technicians there, and then I went on 17:37 and moved on to another Company, 17:38 and then eventually, I wound up in a big company... 17:41 and then eventually I got laid off from there... 17:44 I started my own business with Chase Bank... 17:46 installing their equipment 17:48 and then when things kind of went sour... 17:50 I remember... I was sitting in the living room 17:54 watching 3ABN for the first time 17:56 and I heard Danny say, "What do you have in your hand?" 18:00 and I said that I didn't have anything... 18:02 my wife was sitting next to me, Lisa... 18:04 and I said, "Lisa, this is something 18:05 that I would like to get into" 18:08 and I called 3ABN... I said, 18:11 "Look, I would like to bring 3ABN to New York... 18:14 I would like to have a TV Studio in New York... " 18:16 I thought they were going to say I was crazy 18:18 like everybody else did... and then when I hear them say, 18:21 "How can we help you do that?" I was shocked... 18:25 Wow! and so that began your history with 3ABN... 18:28 That was back in 2000... Wow! wow! 18:32 And I was just going from 18:35 from year to year 18:36 working really hard and then I remember 18:38 we had a Program in New York 18:42 at the Ephesus Church 18:44 that was going to be the first live broadcast in the 18:47 Northeastern Conference Church in New York 18:49 and I was blown away that they were coming... 18:52 and then I knew I had to meet Danny... 18:54 and I heard a lot about him, and when I saw him 18:57 I kind of shied away from him... because I didn't think I was, 19:00 you know... I still had a lot of that, 19:03 you know, doubt in my mind, and I also had that 19:07 withdrawnness in me... Yeah... 19:09 and even he said it... when I came out into the circle 19:11 "He looks like he's a little withdrawn" 19:12 because I didn't think that I was felt "good enough" 19:15 at that time... to be around people like that... 19:19 Wow, wow, oh man... and look what God has done... 19:24 we need to fast forward to 19:26 your current ministry now, 19:29 I need to just say one thing though Ruben... and that is... 19:32 with all that you did... you did a lot with 3ABN... 19:36 and one of the things was... I'm so thankful 19:40 that I had a chance to meet you, I don't even remember 19:43 what year it was... but you brought me in to sing, 19:46 and that was such a blessing for me... 19:49 because I was going through some things myself at that time 19:52 so I thank you... I want to thank you publicly 19:55 for you and Pastor C.A. Murray for being instrumental 19:59 in bringing me in to sing for 3ABN... 20:02 Well, I learned from 3ABN... and also learned from 20:07 C.A. Murray... that when he tells you to do 20:08 something that somebody can sing... 20:09 he said, "She can sing!" so... 20:12 he says that he's been dragging me around for 26 years... 20:17 and it's probably true... so, thank you so much for that, 20:22 now, what are you doing now, 20:23 let's talk about what you're doing now... 20:25 Well, now I started a ministry, "Time for the Loud Cry" 20:30 I was watching... I go to Church... 20:33 and I don't hear the 3 Angels' messages anymore 20:35 so I wanted to start a Program, that would bring back 20:39 the three angels' messages... the 7 Pillars of our faith... 20:42 and the health message... 20:43 and so I started this Call-in Program 20:46 and we started out with just about 20 people... 20:49 and now we're up to about... 20:52 sometimes we are up to about 250 people 20:54 that come on at one time... You say, "Call-in" 20:57 is it radio, is it internet, what is it? 21:01 It's a free Conference Call... they call in... 21:04 and we're there with our Speakers... 21:06 we have a bunch of speakers from all over the Country 21:09 that come in periodically to speak at certain time slots, 21:13 and we have a great time and the line has grown so much 21:17 and on our website... 21:19 and I didn't realize 21:21 when my webmaster called me and told me 21:23 you know, we haven't even made this public... 21:26 and over 2,500 people that hit your website in one month 21:29 Wow! wow... so the word is getting out there... 21:33 that you have this ministry, tell us a bit more about 21:38 the ministry itself... if someone were to call in, 21:42 what would they hear when they call in... 21:45 They would hear us waiting for them... 21:47 I always give the Welcome and I always ask 21:50 if there is anyone on the line for the first time 21:52 can you give us your name and where you're calling from... 21:54 and I get in there... and I dialog with them... 21:56 and we talk for a little while and, you know me... 21:59 I always tell them jokes... Right... 22:01 to get them to relax... and we.. we get new callers all the time 22:06 and we just have a good time... 22:07 Okay, so, I may be a viewer now, I'm watching this Program... 22:14 why would I call... 22:15 what benefit is it to me to call why would I call? 22:19 If you're looking for "Present Truth" 22:21 if you're looking for the truth and nothing but the truth... 22:24 like, you know, our friend at "Forerunner Chronicles" says, 22:28 "The Truth is the Truth" Yeah, right... 22:29 Chris Hudson... that's right... 22:32 that's where the truth is, we have music... 22:34 singing... right after each speaker... 22:36 we sing... they sing a song right after each speaker 22:39 and at the end we have prayer... 22:40 and I've noticed, Yvonne, 22:42 that even when the Program is over, 22:44 that people don't want to leave they just want to stay late 22:46 stay there and talk and... and dialog and pray... 22:49 it's amazing to see what God is doing with this ministry... 22:52 and I never thought that it would happen like this 22:56 especially... a guy like me... you know... 22:57 I mean, I came from nowhere... and I just humbled myself 23:01 and asked the Lord to continue to use me 23:03 and then to have the relationship that I have 23:06 with 3ABN is the most important thing to me... 23:09 That is so wonderful... praise the Lord... 23:12 so, when they call in... if you can think of 23:16 a situation where... or a few situations where 23:20 people's lives have been changed... 23:22 as a result of this ministry, tell us about it... 23:25 Well, what I do... we have a question and answer 23:29 period and anyone who asks a question 23:30 I always write their number down 23:32 and I call them afterwards... sometimes I'm up till 23:35 1 o'clock in the morning... calling people 23:37 depending on where they live, 23:38 because they call from all over the Country... 23:40 and I found so many people who are hurting... 23:42 so many people who feel all alone... 23:45 and I just sit there and I talk with them 23:48 and some of them adopt me as their son... 23:50 some of them adopt me as their brother... 23:52 some even, you know, say, 23:54 "You're the type of father-figure I always wanted" 23:57 because I know how they feel... 23:59 I've been there... and I know what to say... 24:02 and the encouragement that I give them 24:04 is the encouragement that I've gotten... 24:05 to tell them, you know, 24:07 it makes no difference what happens to you in life... 24:10 you have to trust God... He's the one 24:13 that's going to give you the strength to keep going... 24:15 and I'm telling you... I'm a living testimony 24:17 of the power of God and I'm telling you 24:19 that you can make it... 24:21 and now we have a dialog 24:23 when they call me... sometimes we talk and laugh 24:26 and joke on the phone... and they go and tell others 24:28 "Hey, you need to come on this Program... 24:30 wow! it's a great Program... " it's only because 24:33 we not only preach the message but we get involved 24:35 with people's lives... we let them to know that 24:38 we know, we understand and we care... 24:39 Oh, that is so wonderful, Ruben, because I'm listening to what 24:44 you're saying and thinking about how your whole life... 24:48 has led you... all of your experiences 24:51 have led you to this place... and you could not 24:54 really effectively minister to these people the way you do, 24:59 if you hadn't been broken yourself... 25:01 if you hadn't been prepared... by all of these life experiences 25:06 that you've had... you wouldn't be able to minister 25:10 effectively to them... but because you've been 25:12 in this situation... yourself... because you've been broken 25:15 because you've had low self-esteem 25:17 and had learning disabilities and all of these things 25:21 that went against you... broken home, 25:24 dysfunctional parenting... 25:26 all these things that went against you... 25:28 this all... prepared you... for where you are now... 25:32 how rewarding is it for you to be doing what you're doing? 25:36 You know, there's a song that I always used to hear, 25:40 "I'm Amazed... " Yes... 25:41 I truly am amazed to see how God has led it... 25:45 and then to think that... all it took was a phone call 25:48 and somebody from 3ABN being so nice and so courteous 25:51 on the phone... and if I would not have made 25:54 that call Yvonne... would we be sitting here 25:56 right now? Hmmm... 25:57 If I had not made that phone call... 26:00 would I be able to be a testimony 26:01 for those who may be watching, 26:03 no matter how broken you are... 26:05 Yes... I mean I've been through 26:07 more than what I've told you... and the fantastic thing 26:10 about it was... I found out about what happened to my mother 26:14 when I spoke to my aunt... she was abused... 26:17 and I didn't understand back then... 26:19 but I understand it now... Yes... 26:21 and so it's a ripple effect that happens in people's lives 26:24 and we have to recognize and understand 26:26 that there are people out there 26:28 who are hurting... they may have an attitude... 26:30 they may be... not very nice... 26:31 but if you look past that... I guarantee you, 26:34 you'll find someone who has been used, abused, 26:36 or someone who's been hurt... 26:37 Yes, and how wonderful that you can look at it... 26:42 and forgive your mom behind all of this 26:44 because that's really what it takes for you 26:47 to move on... Definitely... 26:48 Ruben, I can't believe it our time is up... 26:51 I can't believe it... 26:54 this has been so wonderful... 26:55 To be continued... 26:57 Yeah... to be continued... that's right, 26:58 we'll have to have you on again 26:59 and as your ministry continues to develop... 27:02 I'd like for you to come on again 27:04 and tell us just what you're doing... 27:06 Oh, sure, I would love to come on 27:08 and come see my family down there... 27:10 I've never had so many white families in my life... 27:14 Oh... well see... the family of God is a rainbow, 27:18 that's the bottom line... Yeah... yeah... 27:19 Well, thank you so much and we'll look forward 27:22 to having you again... Praise the Lord... 27:24 Praise the Lord... 27:25 Today you've heard the story 27:27 of a man that had no earthly home 27:29 yet, he's become a man with a heavenly home... 27:33 If you're struggling with a seemingly hopeless situation... 27:36 remember Ruben's story... God can turn your life around 27:40 in an instant... just trust wholly in Him... 27:43 and watch how He transforms your life... 27:46 every experience that Ruben had, led him to where he is today, 27:51 and you know what... many of us can say the same thing... 27:55 Well, we've come to the close of another Program... 27:58 Thanks for tuning in... tune in next time... 28:01 it just wouldn't be the same without you... |
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