Urban Report

A.S.I. Rolls #1 - Harbor Of Hope & Oakwood University

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Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Keith Hackle, Tim Allson

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00:01 UBROOOO33
00:02 Recently at ASI, I met some people
00:03 that are doing great things for God...
00:04 Stay tuned to meet them...
00:06 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching
00:09 Urban Report...
00:31 Hello and welcome to Urban Report...
00:33 Today our Program features people that I met
00:36 at this year's ASI... they have great ministries
00:39 and are on fire for the Lord... let's see what they're doing...
00:42 The first interview is with Keith Hackle,
00:45 Outreach Coordinator for Harbor of Hope Ministry
00:48 in Michigan... let's see what Keith has to say.
00:53 So, Urban Report is here in Cincinnati at ASI...
00:59 and I'm here with Elder Keith Hackle
01:01 of Harbor of Hope Ministries,
01:03 So nice to meet you... Thanks for having me...
01:05 So, let's talk a little bit about you and your background...
01:09 Where are you from? I'm from Cincinnati...
01:12 I'm actually living in Berrien Springs now
01:14 and it was amazing when I found out that ASI would be here
01:17 in Cincinnati... I'm like, "Wow, I get to go back home
01:20 and participate at ASI at the same time...
01:22 Yeah... now, did you grow up in the inner city yourself?
01:25 I did grow up in the inner city...
01:26 What was that like for you?
01:27 It was tough... it was tough, I knew my dad...
01:30 my mom was a single parent...
01:33 it was a lot of heartache
01:35 a lot of hard times because Dad would give promises,
01:38 he would give expectations and he wouldn't always
01:41 be able to follow through...
01:42 there was an environment in which I grew up in...
01:45 that lot of people don't make it out...
01:47 so, being here in Cincinnati, in the inner city,
01:50 my mother did an excellent job of trying to encourage me
01:53 God placed individuals in my life that allowed me to see that
01:57 there was a gift that God had given me...
01:59 Ah... an ability that He had given me,
02:01 and I began to be able to see that... and to believe it...
02:04 That's incredible... so you felt early on...
02:08 you had a relationship with the Lord early on in life...
02:11 Yes... yes and you felt a call...
02:14 Definitely... see, that whole sense of purpose
02:17 that's what Dare to Dream is about...
02:20 we want young people to know
02:22 that God has a divine plan for them...
02:24 and that they're not just arbitrarily here...
02:26 but there is a plan... in divine order for them...
02:31 so, okay, so, fast forward... so how did you actually get into
02:36 Harbor of Hope Ministry?
02:38 Okay, I was here in Cincinnati, and we were debating
02:42 on whether we would be moving to Berrien Springs...
02:46 I read an article in the newspaper...
02:48 about the Ministry... and how it's impacting
02:52 the youth in Benton Harbor, and I said,
02:55 "When we go... to settle there, once me and my wife decided
02:59 that we would go... I said, "When we get there,
03:01 I have to check this church out... "
03:02 Ah... and I got there...
03:04 and I just saw the amazing things that were happening...
03:07 Tell us what it does... what is Harbor of Hope about?
03:09 It's kind of... two-fold...
03:11 there is your regular Sabbath Service
03:13 where we pick the kids up... we have 7 buses that go out
03:16 to the Community... and bring the kids in...
03:19 Wow! wow... we give them breakfast...
03:20 there's a Sabbath School, there's a Worship Service,
03:23 there's lunch... and then, they go home
03:25 on the Sabbath... so you feed the kids...
03:27 you give them breakfast... Yes... definitely...
03:29 which is something that...
03:30 a lot of times they are missing breakfast...
03:32 You're right... Wow! so you give them the
03:34 physical food... Hmmm... hmmm...
03:36 before you give them the Spiritual Food...
03:37 Yes Ma'am... Awesome... awesome...
03:39 Okay, so go ahead... run me through the day again...
03:41 So, that's Sabbath... we have Sabbath School
03:43 and those things take place on Sabbath...
03:45 but then we have another component called
03:47 Sidewalk Kids Zone... and what Sidewalk Kids Zone is
03:50 that four days... throughout the week...
03:53 during the five weeks of summer, we take a bus
03:56 it's a bus that has been designed
03:58 specifically for what we do... we take it into the Community...
04:01 and we hold Programs, four days a week...
04:04 in the Community... and it's amazing because
04:06 we reach so many more... I mean... we just completed it
04:09 a couple of months ago, and we had 300 kids show up
04:13 to attend the Programs every week...
04:15 Wow! so you imagine...
04:16 we're reaching, probably, ten times as many individuals
04:20 during those weeks...
04:22 You know what's so great about this...
04:24 this is what Jesus did... Yes...
04:26 He met people where they were, Yes Ma'am...
04:28 instead of... it's so great because...
04:31 you're not even expecting them to come into a Church
04:34 right now... you're going to them...
04:36 Yes... and you're picking up these
04:38 children... Hmmm... hmmm...
04:40 and teaching them and feeding them... and
04:43 this is incredible... this is a wonderful work
04:46 so, what kinds of programs do... when the kids come...
04:49 let's say I'm "little Johnny" or "little Sally"
04:52 what are they going to see when they come to
04:55 one of the Programs?
04:56 Well, when they come to
04:57 our Kids Zone... Right...
04:59 what will happen is... they see this orange bus
05:01 come into the Community...
05:02 Ah... it's like the Ice cream man...
05:04 It's like the Ice cream man... there's no music yet...
05:06 we're working on the music...
05:07 but they see this orange truck come into the Community...
05:10 so they already know that something's going on...
05:12 there are kids painted on the side of the bus
05:13 and things like that... so when they come...
05:15 and we have games first... we start off with the games...
05:17 get them active... get them ready to go...
05:20 and then there's Quiet Time... we go over the rules
05:22 and we say, "This is what's expected of us and of you... "
05:25 and then... after that... we go into a story...
05:28 and during that story... it takes common things
05:31 and it interjects Jesus into the story...
05:34 Oh... like what... like what... give us an example...
05:37 Okay, so one example... there was this cat...
05:40 by the name of Johnny...
05:42 and Johnny decided to leave the church...
05:45 he became an alley cat... well, the pastor from the church
05:49 reached out to him... reached out to him...
05:50 but Johnny wanted to be like the other cats in the alley...
05:54 he wanted to be an "alley cat"
05:55 so, the pastor continued to try, continued to try...
05:59 continued to try... and at the end...
06:03 the pastor was able to show Johnny that
06:06 that he continued to apologize,
06:08 he continued to apologize, saying that he was sorry...
06:10 saying that he wanted to come back...
06:11 but when the environment changed...
06:12 let's say if it was snowing outside
06:14 he wanted to go back... but if it was nice and sunny...
06:17 he wanted to stay there... Hmmm...
06:18 he continued to say "sorry" and what the message is...
06:20 is that... that's how we do Jesus
06:22 when things are the way that we would like for them to be...
06:26 and having fun... Oh, come on now...
06:28 we don't want to go or be involved with it...
06:31 but when things are bad... then we say, "we're sorry"
06:33 the beautiful thing that we communicate to the children
06:36 is that Jesus forgives us...
06:38 if we really, really mean what we say...
06:39 Yes... and we're humble...
06:41 and we're submitting and we say...
06:43 we apologize... that Jesus forgives us
06:45 Yes... and what that gives them
06:46 is that even though they messed up in the past...
06:48 that we serve a God who is willing to forgive our mistakes
06:52 and give us a second chance...
06:53 Oh, that's wonderful... to take lessons in life
06:58 and apply Jesus to them... and show children how
07:03 Jesus is relevant... Yes...
07:05 You know, this is not some age-old deal
07:08 that's irrelevant... Jesus is relevant to their
07:11 everyday lives... and you show that
07:12 someone loves them Yes... that's right...
07:14 and cares about them... that is just so wonderful...
07:17 so you got the Kids Zone... Hmmm... hmmm...
07:19 you've got... what's the other program that you were saying?
07:21 The other component is the Harbor of Hope Church
07:24 which is the regular worship service
07:25 and then we have SOTC which is the mentoring...
07:28 for the kids... Oh...
07:30 then we have the outreach for the parents...
07:32 Let's talk about the mentoring, Yes...
07:33 So what happens there?
07:34 At SOTC, we... because most of the kids worship
07:39 with us on Sabbath... what happens is...
07:41 then we... on Sunday... we gather,
07:43 and we have them bring their homework...
07:45 we have them talk about certain things
07:48 so there is a mentor-mentee relationship...
07:50 someone that you can confide in
07:52 someone who's going to encourage you
07:53 to be the best that you can be...
07:55 someone who believes in you... someone who wants to
07:58 challenge you and dare you to dream...
08:00 Oh, come on... come on... I love it... I love it...
08:03 so you have that environment... and what it does is that
08:05 it allows kids to believe... and start to see that
08:08 success is possible... Yes...
08:10 despite the fact that they are growing up
08:12 in a bad environment... Yes...
08:13 Oh, this is so... this is so... right up Dare to Dream's alley
08:17 you know what I really want to do is...
08:20 is have you on Urban Report...
08:24 when we can do like a longer program...
08:27 because, to me, this today... is just kind of
08:32 wetting our Viewers' appetites but I really would like to
08:35 talk to you... because what you're telling me
08:37 is so critical... it's so critical...
08:41 to the healthy development of the child...
08:44 that mentoring... and then inserting yourself
08:47 into their needs... Yes...
08:49 they need homework assistance, they need to know that
08:52 God's got a plan... that is incredible...
08:54 what is your vision for Harbor of Hope...
08:57 where do you see it going?
08:58 The vision is to have a group of kids...
09:03 that start to apply themselves, and not only apply themselves
09:08 but encourage other kids in the neighborhood
09:10 to apply themselves... that's the first vision...
09:12 a component of that... is also allowing for the children
09:16 and the impact that is being made in their lives
09:19 to then go home and to impact their parents...
09:21 because... we believe that if the children come
09:24 and they are interacting with us
09:26 they are being Discipled with us...
09:27 but then they go back home into that environment...
09:30 where individuals don't encourage them...
09:32 don't believe in them... don't give them the things
09:35 that they need... then, there's kind of something
09:37 missing... so, we also reach out
09:38 to their parents... and make it a "family environment"
09:41 Yes... where everyone
09:43 comes to know Jesus... and that at least one...
09:46 if only one... someone is saved...
09:48 That is so... that's beautiful...
09:50 and that's... again... again... this is not a situation
09:54 where it's just like...
09:56 "Okay, we're just going to give the kids something to eat"
10:00 or... "we're going to tell the kids about Jesus... "
10:03 or... "we're going to help them with their homework... "
10:06 you're doing all of the above... Yes... yes...
10:08 so what you're doing is you're showing these children
10:11 just how important it is... just how relevant Jesus is
10:15 to them... Yes... yes...
10:16 that is so beautiful... so, as we close...
10:19 because again... the time limit here is just...
10:22 our time is limited here... I understand...
10:25 what would you say...
10:29 to that inner-city child that... really is looking for
10:34 something... something else... to reach out to...
10:37 what would you say... look into that camera...
10:40 and speak to that child that is in need of something...
10:43 My message to that child is that...
10:47 "I know your situation right now it may look like
10:51 you're all alone... it may look like there's no hope
10:54 it might look like there's no chance for you to make it
10:57 and you may be on the verge of giving up...
11:00 but my encouragement to you, my appeal to you
11:03 is that you don't give up...
11:04 first of all... you reach out to Jesus...
11:07 He's been there with you,
11:09 even though it doesn't seem like it
11:10 every step of the way... then after you reach out to Him,
11:13 He's going to give you the courage to move forward...
11:16 take that courage and believe that He is able
11:19 to help you be... and do... whatever it is...
11:21 you want to achieve in your life...
11:23 and you keep walking with hope,
11:25 keep walking with Jesus, and you'll be fine... "
11:27 Praise the Lord... thank you so much...
11:30 what else can I say behind that?
11:32 I want to thank you so much for being with us
11:36 I want to make sure that you know
11:37 that you have an invitation to be a guest on Urban Report
11:41 so, we can talk more about
11:42 about Harbor of Hope...
11:44 Wonderful... thank you very much
11:45 Thank you, may God bless you...
11:47 What a blessing Keith Hackle is...
11:51 to say to young children, "Don't give up...
11:54 keep moving forward in Jesus...
11:57 have courage... and move forward in Jesus... "
12:00 That ministry is a wonderful blessing...
12:03 and we're going to have Keith Hackle on Urban Report
12:06 so that we can do... a much more complete interview with him
12:09 Next you're going to meet Tim Allston...
12:12 Tim Allston is the Director of Public Relations
12:16 for Oakwood University...
12:17 Tim has some very interesting things to say
12:21 about what's going on at the Oaks...
12:23 shout-out to those from the Oaks yeah...
12:26 I have the privilege of sitting here at ASI in Cincinnati...
12:35 with Tim Allston...
12:37 Tim, welcome to Urban Report...
12:40 It's good seeing you again, Yvonne...
12:41 Tim Allston is the Public Relations Director
12:44 for Oakwood University...
12:46 Tim, I've known you for a while and you have a very strong
12:51 public relations background...
12:53 tell us a little bit about yourself...
12:54 Who is Tim Allston...?
12:55 Sure, Tim Allston...
12:56 I'm the product of SDA Church School Education,
12:59 my parents raised us in the Greater Boston Area,
13:01 then in 1972 they accepted Administrative staff positions
13:05 at Oakwood College at the time...
13:06 Right... I then went on to
13:08 my alma mater... Hampton Institute
13:10 now Hampton University... as I look back on it now
13:13 it was my "prodigal son journey" Okay...
13:17 I was trying to run away from all of those basics...
13:19 and it took me 42 years to get back on track
13:23 which actually happened in October of 2011...
13:27 when President Pollard... the new President of Oakwood
13:30 asked me to return to Oakwood, and that ended the journey
13:33 the wilderness wandering of 42 years...
13:35 and now I'm enjoying the paradise from the journey...
13:38 Oh, praise the Lord... you know... what...
13:40 okay... here's the deal... Okay...
13:42 Today we have such a limited time...
13:44 Sure... so I'm going to make sure
13:45 that I have you as a guest on Urban Report...
13:48 I mean... for a full program... Promise...
13:50 I do... I promise... and I'm telling my Viewers now
13:53 I promise that we're going to have Tim Allston
13:56 and his... I want to know
13:58 your whole journey because it sounds to me
14:00 that God has brought you a mighty long way...
14:02 and so, we want to know what has God done in your life?
14:06 you know... what kind of journey what did you go through...
14:09 so, you promise... I promise...
14:11 All right... good, good, good... so tell us what you do now
14:14 with Oakwood... and tell us about
14:16 what's going on with Oakwood,
14:17 why should we be excited about Oakwood?
14:19 Well the reason you should be excited...
14:21 and I was a student... I have to say...
14:23 I went to Oakwood...
14:25 Well we can tell by your demeanor and bearing
14:27 that you are Oakwood alumni... Come on now... come on now...
14:29 you know what to say... come on...
14:30 There's so much happening in Oakwood...
14:32 but our job as Public Relations Team
14:34 "PR" as we call it... our job is to capture,
14:37 capsulize and communicate the Oakwood story...
14:40 Okay... and to communicate it
14:41 with speed... with accuracy... with consistency...
14:45 and with passion... to those Organizations and
14:48 public... upon whom our success or failure depends...
14:51 Okay... Our job is telling the story...
14:52 Tell us the story...
14:54 Well, okay, Oakwood began in 1896 officially...
14:58 it began on the site of what was at one time
15:02 a slave plantation... Really...
15:04 the most famous slave of all... Dred Scott...
15:06 was a slave on that plantation at one time...
15:10 in 1895 Ellen White the Founder of this Church
15:14 came to this land and said, "God has shown me this property
15:18 for the education and training of the newly-freed man
15:21 the Black man in this Country" so, in 1896... one year later...
15:25 Oakwood Manual Training School began...
15:28 a 115 years later...
15:29 we are progressing... we are growing...
15:31 we are still fulfilling the mission of the Church
15:34 we are training young people and older adults
15:36 to hasten the second coming of Christ...
15:38 Hmmm... through all of the different
15:40 academic and Community-relations vehicles...
15:42 That's wonderful...
15:45 when someone comes to you and says... you know...
15:47 sometimes our HBCUs Historically Black Colleges and Universities
15:51 are not up to par... Yes...
15:53 what would you say about Oakwood?
15:54 Oakwood is accredited... is it not?
15:56 Fully accredited...
15:57 What would you say when someone tells you that?
16:00 What I'd say is the fact that...
16:02 that may be true in some instances...
16:04 but it's never been the case with Oakwood...
16:06 Okay... what I would tell them
16:07 is the fact that, "You will get a good quality education... "
16:10 at any of the 2300 colleges and universities in the Country
16:13 but you're going to find Jesus Christ at Oakwood...
16:17 Hmmm... we are very intentional
16:18 from the top... all the way across...
16:20 let me tell you what I mean... Okay...
16:21 all higher-education institutions have a President
16:25 Right... at Oakwood...
16:28 our President and our Board of Trustees have put
16:30 in the President's job description...
16:32 that he or she will be the Chief Spiritual Officer...
16:38 for the University... Hmmm...
16:40 what that says is "from the top... "
16:43 unapologetically... unashamedly...
16:45 spirituality is where we hang our hat...
16:49 Oh... from the top...
16:50 across the board... Wonderful... that's wonderful
16:53 so, the President is the Chief Spiritual Officer
16:56 CSO... Wow! and his responsibility
17:00 is to lead the student body to Christ...
17:04 Yes... his job as president is to lead the Institution
17:08 and our stakeholders
17:09 into a higher level of responsibility to Christ
17:14 as Servant Leader... he is Servant Leader
17:17 and what he's also done in that way is
17:20 he has created through the Board
17:22 a Chaplaincy Team on Spiritual Initiative...
17:26 Heretofore we've always had one Chaplain...
17:29 Hmmm... hmmm... that is no longer the case now,
17:32 we have a Chaplain who is in charge of Faculty
17:36 we have a Chaplain now in charge of Staff...
17:39 Hmmm... we have a new Chaplain
17:41 that's come on board... that's in charge of
17:42 female students
17:44 and we have a Chaplain now in charge of male students,
17:46 and the reason that's important in answer to your question
17:49 by HBCUs... is that... within the
17:52 United Negro College Fund... they all are private...
17:55 historically Black Schools...
17:56 Oakwood University has the highest male enrollment...
18:01 41 percent... Really?
18:03 Historically, our Historically Black Private Schools
18:05 according to the President's CEO of the
18:08 United Negro College Fund, Dr. Michael Lomax...
18:11 their basic range is between 30 to 35 percent...
18:13 Oakwood is at 41 percent... Hmmm...
18:15 we are very intentional...
18:17 about young black men coming to our School...
18:19 when you get young Black men to the School
18:21 young Black women are going to come...
18:22 Ah, so you know that eh? We've observed it...
18:27 Well, you know... and that's so true...
18:29 and so... one of the things that we want to do
18:32 at Dare to Dream we really focus on Black males
18:35 a lot on Dare to Dream
18:36 because we know what's going on, we know about the
18:39 disproportionate incarceration, and convictions
18:42 we know what's going on educationally and Societally...
18:46 so, this is so good that intentionally...
18:50 you are reaching out and including Black males
18:54 because one of the things again with the family unit...
18:57 the family unit is in such dis-repair...
19:00 and we need our Black men... to be the fathers and husbands
19:06 so, this is so great that Oakwood is doing that...
19:09 The Bible requires of us... the Bible says...
19:12 Priest, Protector and Provider, That's right... that's right...
19:15 and we're very, very intentional about it...
19:18 It's an exciting time to be at Oakwood...
19:20 Yes, tell us some more...
19:21 You need to come back...
19:22 Well, I mean... we do produce some Programming out of Oakwood
19:27 Yes... which is really great...
19:28 "Living Testimony" and then... so we're doing some things
19:32 out of local... which is really great... so...
19:35 at Oakwood... you can learn to be a leader...
19:39 at Oakwood... you don't have the concerns about certain things
19:46 that you would have in another School, for example,
19:49 you can learn "Leadership"
19:50 you can have a "new connection with the Lord"
19:55 so, at Oakwood... I mean... Oakwood... I love about it...
19:59 and my parents went to Oakwood...
20:00 and so... you know... it's a great thing...
20:03 We are very intentional about Leadership Development
20:06 and Leadership Training at Oakwood...
20:07 on several different levels...
20:09 the President said to us last week
20:12 at our Colloquium... our Annual Faculty Staff Colloquim,
20:15 he said... "An informed people are easy to lead
20:19 and impossible to enslave... " Oh...
20:22 "An informed people... easy to lead...
20:25 and impossible to enslave... "
20:28 and one of the vehicles by which we are making that happen is
20:32 in our Leadership Development Program...
20:35 Our first lady, Dr. Prudence Pollard who was
20:37 a Leadership Development Expert she has taught us
20:40 and she is teaching us that Leadership is developed
20:42 from the inside-out... Hmmm...
20:45 most secular Leadership Development Programs,
20:48 try to develop Leadership from the outside in...
20:51 but, when you have it within... which is Christ-Centered...
20:54 Yes... it flows to the outside...
20:56 but... beyond that... we're starting, in September,
20:59 a Leadership Academy for Faculty and Staff...
21:04 and the reason for that is...
21:05 so that at all levels of the University...
21:07 at top level... middle... and lower...
21:10 that Leadership is trained... it is intentional...
21:14 it is not by happenstance...
21:16 it also fits in with the issue
21:18 that you're talking about with our young Black men...
21:19 In our history... we have had strong, Messianic Leaders...
21:23 Yes... Malcolm, Martin, Marcus Garvey,
21:26 Elijah Muhammad... and when these Leaders
21:28 are off the scene through assassination or imprisonment,
21:31 the Organizations died... because middle-management
21:33 was not developed to move up...
21:35 Hmmm... hmmm... we're not going to let that
21:37 happen at Oakwood...
21:38 Oh, that's great... that is great...
21:40 but when you have that kind of leadership at the top...
21:41 Dr. Pollard... understand... our President... Leslie Pollard
21:43 Let's talk about him...
21:45 Sure... he brings to us a unique set of skills...
21:48 he has the academic doctorate, he has the ministerial doctorate
21:54 and he's got the MBA... so he's able to be conversant,
21:58 and comfortable in academic, in ministerial...
22:01 He's a slouch eh... he's been wasting time...
22:05 and in the Business Community... Wow!
22:08 so he brings to us that trifecta...
22:11 Yes... and we can see that improvement
22:13 already on the campus... he's an Oakwoodite... like you
22:16 he came to Oakwood... he'll tell the story...
22:19 that he came to Oakwood from New Orleans...
22:22 the product of a single parent,
22:23 his mother brought him to Oakwood in 1974
22:26 pulled together all of the cash she had...
22:29 put it in his hands... she said,
22:30 "Son, if I had more... I would give you more... "
22:34 Hmmm... hmmm... and so, he began to progress
22:38 get his Undergraduate Degree, then one Master's degree,
22:43 then another Master's Degree, then a Doctorate,
22:46 Wow! then another Doctorate...
22:48 Wow! he returned to Oakwood,
22:50 the Community... in 1993- '94 as the Senior Pastor
22:56 of the Oakwood Church... so this is a second coming for him
22:59 Yes... and for us...
23:00 yes... okay...
23:02 he married his college sweetheart...
23:03 he says that when he was... he went to a women's dorm
23:10 worship program... and heard this young woman from New York,
23:15 Jamaican extract... stand up and recite
23:17 "God's Trombone" from James Weldon Johnson...
23:20 verbatim... and he said, "Wow! how does she do that?"
23:24 what kind of person... what is the... you know...
23:28 and he began to check out this Prudence LaBeach
23:32 ultimately, they became a couple...
23:37 ultimately they married, produced two beautiful,
23:41 wonderful, professional daughters
23:42 and two of them have returned to give us a one-two punch
23:45 like never before... Wow! that's incredible...
23:48 what a blessing to have him back at Oakwood...
23:51 in this capacity...
23:52 when he can pull from all of these disciplines
23:55 and really just... excel... and we're benefitting from them
23:59 and let me say a couple of things...
24:00 our fund-raising efforts have increased...
24:02 our Alumni are giving more...
24:04 we're raising more on different projects
24:06 because of his business bend... we now have an ISO designation
24:11 International Standards Organization
24:13 it is a quality standardization of business...
24:18 typically, for businesses, as a result...
24:20 the ISO designation that we have
24:22 we are the first and only HBCU with that designation...
24:25 we're the first and only
24:27 Seventh-day Adventist Institution
24:29 with this designation and we're the first and only
24:32 Alabama Institution with this designation...
24:34 what it does... it demands of us
24:37 to have quality at all levels of the institution
24:41 codified, written down, rules, regulations, so bad
24:46 as we were talking before...
24:48 if, for any reason, Leadership leaves...
24:50 we're not having that "Leadership Drought"
24:53 Yes... we could pick up
24:54 because we have the documentation
24:55 Oh, yes, so it's not centered on one person
24:59 That's right... so that if that person
25:02 is no longer there... it continues as before...
25:05 Right... it's system-wide... Wow!
25:07 The other thing that's happened under his leadership
25:09 is the fact that we are now reaching out
25:12 definitively to the one billion Muslims in the world...
25:18 we have created what is called "CAMROU"
25:19 Center for Adventist-Muslim Relations at Oakwood University
25:22 yes... I interviewed the Director...
25:24 Oh, Keith Burton? Yes, Keith Burton... Dr. Burton
25:26 Wonderful guy... Incredible...
25:27 The kind of linkages that he is making for the Church
25:30 Yes... and for Oakwood...
25:32 Yes... incredible!
25:33 Wow! thank you so much for coming...
25:35 I can't even thank you enough, we have to have you on again...
25:38 Let's do it again... Absolutely... God bless...
25:40 Blessings on you too... Thank you...
25:42 Can you see why... why Tim Allston is the Director
25:49 of Public Relations for Oakwood University?
25:51 He is on fire for Oakwood... and that's what we need...
25:56 one of the things that excites me about Oakwood...
26:00 is this whole idea of intentionality...
26:03 the intentionality from the top-down...
26:06 to have a spiritual impact on the students...
26:09 to give them Jesus Christ,
26:11 and to give them tools for living...
26:13 and to help them to move into Society
26:15 and to be productive members of Society...
26:19 and not just... kind of treading water...
26:22 but to excel... can you tell that I'm an Oakwoodite,
26:26 a former Oakwoodite? I loved Oakwood and for me
26:30 it opened up a lot of opportunities
26:32 and doors... and that was a blessing...
26:35 so, if you have a young student in your home
26:39 that's ready for college... send them to Oakwood...
26:42 consider Oakwood... our guests are planning
26:45 to come back and to do a full Urban Report
26:48 with us... so that we can find out more about them
26:51 what they've been through... their ministries...
26:54 and what they're doing for God...
26:56 this is an important thing
26:58 because you have a ministry for God...
27:02 there's something that God has for you to do...
27:05 that is tailor-made... a plan... that's tailor-made for you
27:10 find out what your divine purpose is...
27:12 and then walk in that purpose...
27:14 If you'd like to learn more about these ministries...
27:19 you can go to their websites...
27:20 Keith Hackle's ministry is Harbor Of Hope
27:25 so the website is www. HarborOfHopeSDA.com
27:29 that's www. HarborOfHopeSDA.com
27:34 and, of course, Tim Allston can be reached at Oakwood...
27:38 so it's www. oakwood. edu that's oakwood. edu...
27:46 Please consider supporting these ministries
27:49 both with your prayers and financial support...
27:52 it's so important that they know that you're behind them...
27:56 Thanks for tuning in... join us next time...
27:59 it just wouldn't be the same without you...


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