Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Dwayne Lemon, Lance Wilbur
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000041S
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00:01 One of the tenets of hip-hop culture is knowledge of self.
00:04 My guests today were immersed in that world and have abandoned it 00:08 for their perspective of the true knowledge of self... 00:11 Stay tuned to hear all about it. My name is Yvonne Lewis 00:15 and you are watching Urban Report... 00:40 Hello, and welcome to Urban Report... 00:42 My guests today are Dwayne Lemon and Lance Wilbur... 00:46 hosts of Dare to Dream's new program on hip-hop... 00:49 TKS... True Knowledge of Self... I went to the set of this 00:53 outstanding new program, here's what they told me, take a look.. 01:02 So if you are a regular viewer of Urban Report, you know that 01:07 one of my favorite things to do is to interview the hosts on 01:12 their sets.. and I am so excited because we have a new program 01:16 that's coming out on Dare to Dream.. it is called TKS 01:21 True Knowledge of Self, and today, we have the hosts, 01:25 the co-hosts here with us on Urban Report... 01:29 I'd like to welcome Dwayne Lemon and Lance Wilbur... 01:33 You guys, first of all, I have to tell you, you know, 01:37 I had you on several months ago, and we talked about, 01:41 just your background... and we're going to get into that 01:45 in a little bit, and from when I met you, I met you at ASI... 01:50 Yeah... and often with Dare to Dream, 01:53 often the Lord impresses me as to who should host a program.. 01:59 Like He'll just lay on my heart, "Ask them to do a program or ask 02:03 this person to do a program," well, after I met you, 02:07 one of my burdens has been hip-hop... and, and, and 02:11 the effect that it's had on the urban community... 02:14 and communities around the world, I mean, not just 02:17 urban community... just life period... 02:20 It has tremendously impacted society and so when I met 02:24 you two, the Lord laid on my heart that you should host a 02:29 program for Dare to Dream... and I interviewed you before... 02:33 and now, we have taped several programs for Dare to Dream, 02:38 TKS... True Knowledge of Self... and so, let me just tell you, 02:42 how excited I am about what I see God doing in you... 02:48 Amen... One of the things that, 02:52 I've noticed is that you have a tremendous knowledge of 02:55 scripture... and that you go from topic to topic, 03:00 from scripture to scripture, linking them together, 03:04 that is such a gift from the Holy Spirit, how long have 03:07 you been studying the Word? Both of you... Brother Dwayne... 03:11 Well, for myself, you know, I came in contact with the Bible 03:14 twenty years ago, and it was when I started to read the Bible 03:18 and, and, and really look at it at first, it was a foreign book, 03:21 I didn't really understand it, but then, of course, through 03:24 prayer, good mentorship, some study helps... 03:26 I found that a book that normally was confusing could 03:29 become very simple to understand and easy, by the grace of God, 03:33 to practice, and therefore, it's been twenty years now, 03:36 that I've been studying... because as soon as I heard 03:39 this message and joined this movement, I began to share with 03:42 everybody and I've literally been sharing for twenty years... 03:45 Ahh... so I think anything you share 03:46 for twenty years, hopefully, you'll understand it pretty well 03:49 Yes, yes... what about you Brother Lance 03:51 For myself, it's been about thirteen, fourteen years... 03:55 I spent about, probably six months or so studying the Bible, 03:59 vigorously before I actually became baptized, so I was 04:03 baptized in the year 2000, and so, it's, it's been awhile... 04:08 Yeah, and so, you both have just kind of delved into it... 04:13 you're not surface guys, neither of you, and the 04:17 chemistry between the two of you is so good... you know, 04:21 Brother Lance is all serious, but, you know, he smiles, 04:24 but he is serious... ...That's right, that's right... 04:26 and you Brother Dwayne, you know you're animated and between 04:30 the two of you... you just reflect such a powerful 04:34 statement for God. Tell us a little bit about your 04:38 background... for those who didn't see the previous program, 04:41 in which I interviewed you, I want both of you to just kind 04:44 of give us a synopsis of your background and why, 04:48 why can you host a program on hip-hop... 04:51 Well, for myself, I grew up in Queens, New York, you know, 04:57 lower to middle-class family... and in growing up in Queens, 05:00 New York, there was no religion in the home at all, mom and dad 05:04 were not terrible people, at least from the way society 05:07 would define it, they were considered hard-working people, 05:10 they were good people... but, there was no worship, 05:12 church attendance, nothing like that, and my father was a 05:16 hard-working man, he was a painter, and that's what he 05:19 did as a profession, he was self employed, but then, 05:22 my mother was a Corporate woman, in the World Trade Center 05:26 and, you know, she did her Corporate administrative work 05:29 there, and I guess, with them both having their careers... 05:32 being busy, I am the youngest of eight, so I found myself 05:36 Eight... Oh yeah, youngest of eight... 05:38 Wow, and you're the youngest... I am the youngest... 05:41 They call you baby... Oh, of course, and you know, 05:43 it's like, my brothers and my sisters, four brothers, 05:46 three sisters... they all came from a different relationship... 05:49 my father was married to another woman before my mother and 05:53 she died... and then he met my mother... and then my mother, 05:56 took all seven of my siblings as her own, but I was the one 05:59 that was born through my mother's womb... 06:01 and therefore, I am number eight so, you know, there was a gap in 06:04 age, for the most part, except for my brother, Vernon, 06:07 and Vernon and I, we were only about two years apart, 06:10 and we were the closest, I would say, of everybody, 06:12 Vernon and I would get into everything, from video games, 06:16 to movies, to hanging out with friends on the street or 06:19 whatever and just doing whatever felt natural and whatever 06:23 was good. All my siblings were musical, at least the majority 06:26 of them, especially on the male side... my brother Leslie 06:29 was really talented in several instruments, my brother Vernon 06:32 was an excellent drummer, and my father was even a 06:35 jazz musician.. he was a drummer too, so, lots and lots 06:39 of music, but for myself, there wasn't any type of musical 06:42 talent per se, but when music would come on, I found that my 06:46 feet would involuntarily move. So it was at a very young age 06:50 that I started to realize that dancing was something 06:53 that I responded to music very well too... and at a 06:56 young age, I started dancing every time music would come on.. 06:59 and we were a very musical family, so lots of rhythm and 07:03 blues... if there was gospel, it was more of an up-tempo kind 07:08 not so much a "churchy kind" there was a music style 07:12 called funk... and, you know, that was kind of like an 07:16 amalgamation of jazz and rock 'n roll and just a lot 07:20 of things mixed together but it had a really good beat, 07:23 so, you know, again it was easy to dance to... 07:25 so this is what I grew up doing, and I did it obviously to try 07:29 to get a little bit of attention I didn't feel like I got a lot 07:33 of attention... Were you the only dancer in 07:35 the family? Only... I've never seen my 07:38 siblings, my mother or... oh well actually mother did do 07:41 a few dance steps, maybe I did get a little something 07:44 from mom, yeah, but for the most part, I was a dancer... 07:47 in fact, I was the entertainment like we loved doing barbecues 07:50 loved doing barbecues... so if we had a barbecue in our 07:54 backyard, I was the entertainment, I mean, 07:56 my father would call me from wherever I was, "Hey, Dwayne, 07:58 come out here boy... " The next thing you know, 08:00 I am out there dancing, and everybody is clapping 08:02 their hands, and I am just... I am feeding off of that... 08:05 I'm loving that, you know, it made me feel important 08:07 at that time... Yes, yes... 08:08 So, you were again, kind of immersed from an early age, 08:13 into music and dance... Oh yeah... 08:16 and when did you get really wrapped up in hip-hop? 08:20 Oh, well, again, when you look at funk music, it definitely had 08:26 the tones and sounds and the rhythms that are connected with 08:30 hip-hop, Clinton, George Clinton he was one of the people 08:34 that was very heavy into funk and he was one of those big 08:37 names out there and he was always one that would kind of 08:40 do certain kind of rhyming, things of that nature, 08:42 so, as I listened to him through the records that my 08:46 brothers would play, eventually you start watching some of these 08:49 major networks on television where they play a lot of 08:52 music videos, then, of course, I am watching the music videos, 08:55 I am seeing this and I am, like, "Oh, I am loving this," 08:57 so I am hearing the music, I am hearing the beats, 08:59 I am hearing the rhythms and I am loving that and then, 09:02 of course, you see all that comes with it... 09:04 the dress, you know, the way you walk, the way you talk, 09:08 everything, so I got attracted to this, it was beautiful to me 09:11 at that time because I didn't really have anything to compare 09:14 it to, to call it bad, first of all, and it appealed to me 09:18 naturally, so I found myself getting very much into it, 09:21 and then, of course, when I got a little older, in my teenage 09:24 years, mom and dad started giving me freedom, they would 09:27 let me go to house parties, and then we would go to the 09:29 house parties, the music would play, you're dancing, 09:32 and before you know it, I mean, I am locked into this 09:34 thing on hip-hop culture now. And it's interesting that you 09:37 would say, you know, it's the way you talk, the way you dress, 09:40 the music, so it's not just the music... 09:43 That's right... Hip hop is not just the music, 09:45 I think we need to make that clear, what about your 09:48 background? Well, I grew up in Massachusetts 09:50 right outside of Boston, you know, kind of in and out of 09:52 the city growing up, it was a single-parent home, 09:55 bi-racial home, my mother was a nurse, middle-class poor 10:00 pretty much all the way through, and there were a lot of problems 10:04 in the home, a lot of domestic violence and my father was 10:06 in and out of the scene, nevertheless, you know, 10:09 you're growing up, that's your life and, you know, 10:11 it gets to a point where you think that it's normal, 10:13 my little brother, he was about eight years, so that was 10:16 pretty much all that was in the home, I had half-sisters 10:19 scattered around in different places, 10:20 There's eight years difference between you and your brother? 10:22 Yes between me and my little brother, so he's basically 10:24 a little baby, you know, we're kind of... there was a gap there 10:27 Right, right... So, I am not really growing up 10:28 it's almost like I am a single, you know, child. 10:30 Yes, yes... So, there was, you know, 10:33 one thing that constantly you gravitated towards 10:36 there were a lot of parties, as a little kid, I remember 10:39 going to parties and all kinds of craziness that I saw 10:43 as a little child, but music is always there, my father had a 10:49 massive record collection and you know, twelve-inch and 10:52 my mother had the records and music was constantly playing 10:55 in the home. You're cleaning... music, washing dishes... music, 10:58 you know, you're sitting around... music, and then, 11:01 you know, as TV-Cable comes out, you have, you know, 11:04 different networks... major networks coming out 11:06 and just playing these videos... we've never seen anything 11:09 like that before, Yeah... 11:10 And now you are getting exposed to all these different kinds of 11:13 music from different places and then hip-hop is coming 11:17 from that range, and then there's also the early records 11:20 you know, Sugar Hill Gang and the different groups... 11:22 Right... that were kind of playing around 11:25 with these fusions of different sounds and rhyming and all that 11:28 and the concept of the Emcee and Deejay, so I'm hearing all these 11:32 things... we had local groups in the Boston area that became 11:35 popular... New Edition and things like that... 11:38 so, that's all coming into play, as I get older. 11:43 Eventually... moving around a lot, and we moved 11:48 to one section of town and I'm going now, transferring 11:51 into Junior High, and had a new group of friends, 11:55 it's a rougher area, neighborhood, and met some 11:59 individuals that had come out from New York, and one was 12:03 associated with Zulu Nation and one associated with the 12:07 Five Percent nation, and they are bringing now these names 12:11 and these artists that I hadn't quite heard before, 12:14 you know, I'd heard Run-DMCs, Elementary School, 12:16 and Beastie Boys and Def-Jam and Early Years, 12:19 but I now get exposed to late 80's early 90's, getting exposed 12:24 to these new genre, like a whole 'nother generation, 12:29 and now the lyrics are way more complex, it's not just routine 12:33 rhymes and things like that, so I began to become 12:35 infatuated with the lyrical content and the Emcee and 12:40 I just began, just almost studying it, you know, 12:44 I almost went to school and college studying Emcee, 12:47 so I just couldn't stop... couldn't get enough... 12:49 constantly injesting and digesting and comparing and 12:52 contrasting and listening, memorizing the lyrics and just 12:57 falling in love with the art, in that side of hip-hop. 13:01 Yeah, and both of you, it sounds as though both of you, 13:05 just immersed yourselves into the whole culture... 13:09 Yeah... oh, yeah... You know, from listening to the 13:12 music to wearing the clothes, to adopting the various lifestyles, 13:16 and the things that other people urbanites did in hip-hop 13:22 genre... Yeah, oh yes... 13:23 So, okay, so back to you Brother Lance, so, okay, 13:28 we got you dancing... how did you take that into a career? 13:33 Well, basically, there was an unfortunate fight that took 13:37 place at my high school, and when that took place, 13:41 I was blamed for it, even though I didn't do it, and my parents 13:44 got wind of it because some of the people who were involved 13:48 in that fight were part of a major gang in that time, 13:51 in Brooklyn, New York, and they were calling my house, 13:54 they got my phone numbers somehow and they called my 13:56 house and told my mother and father that they were going 13:57 to kill me. Long story short, I became a high school dropout. 14:01 My parents said, "We are not going to let you go back 14:03 to school. " So I had to figure out some way to make money, 14:07 and to try to get some type of future for myself, so I didn't 14:11 have any skills, or trades or anything like that, 14:13 but I knew how to dance. So, I started going to the clubs 14:17 in Manhattan and in Manhattan you have a lot of auditions, 14:19 you just start hearing about it, once you go to the clubs, 14:22 Did you know that Queen Latifah, did you know Busta Rhymes is 14:25 having an audition? and as I found out about that, 14:28 I would start going... I would say, "Give me the address, 14:30 tell me what time" and then I would go ahead, 14:31 because I figured, look if I am watching the videos, why can't 14:34 I be in the videos? Somebody else was in it, and therefore 14:37 how can I get in... Come on, come on... now you were 14:39 daring the dream... although, albeit, the dream was kind of 14:43 off, but, you know, you were willing to take a risk, 14:47 Oh yeah... ... to achieve what you wanted 14:50 to achieve, which is a great attribute, it just has to be 14:53 channeled just right... That's right, that's right... 14:57 How did you get really immersed in it, how did you move 15:01 into the profession? Yeah, so now as I get older, 15:03 again, you start doing more and more things... I was always 15:07 bigger than all my peers, so I always hung around 15:10 with age groups above me, so, you know, when I'm 6, 7, 8 years 15:15 old, I am hanging around with 15, 16 year olds, 15:16 when I'm 10, I'm hanging around 18, 19, 20, 23 early 20's 15:21 so that was always the case growing up, and now as I am 15:25 getting older, I'm saying, "Well, yeah there's a little 15:28 more to it than just playing ball outside or running around, 15:31 now you go to parties, you start going to parties, 15:34 oh now, there's alcohol at the parties, now I see... 15:37 I remember now my childhood, going to the parties as a little 15:40 kid and kind of, you know, going to the back room with the 15:42 rest of the kids and parents are there doing all that craziness 15:44 you observe and you know, sipping alcohol as a little kid, 15:48 four and five years old, trying alcohol from your parents 15:52 I don't know, I guess, everybody doesn't do that, 15:54 anyway, that was my experience, so now, I am doing it, outright, 15:59 I am going on my own, and going to these parties, 16:01 and I have access to the alcohol and the drugs and the weed 16:04 and all that stuff, so I began doing it from 10 years old... 16:07 drinking, smoking, smoking cigarettes, and then it 16:10 became kind of a weekend and summer thing, and then 16:13 at 11, 12 years old, it becomes just an everyday thing... 16:16 and so that becomes now my lifestyle and it's all immersed 16:19 you know, in the hip-hop, there's different groups and 16:22 different little groups you hang around with and you 16:24 cross paths with them at parties but eventually I am gravitating 16:28 towards that hip-hop culture because I don't just appreciate 16:31 the sound of it, I appreciate every aspect of it, 16:34 the look of it, you know, just every aspect, 16:37 I want to live that way, I want to adopt that culture... 16:42 So what I am hearing from both of you... is that you just 16:46 immersed yourselves into the culture of hip-hop and one of 16:50 the things we want to look at in the last moments of this 16:53 program is... we want to examine what TKS 17:00 is going to talk about... what is your program going to do 17:04 for the person that is immersed as you were in hip-hop culture.. 17:08 What is it going to do? why should they watch it? 17:11 Because of the fact that hip-hop culture deals with more than 17:14 music... it deals with an entire lifestyle, philosophy, 17:18 and way of thinking which we can summarize in what many of 17:21 the great leaders in hip-hop today call "Knowledge of Self" 17:24 we have discovered through our experiences and then 17:27 in encountering Christ that this is an actual counterfeit... 17:31 it is something that does not give me a faithful or true 17:34 knowledge of myself... it gives me a false knowledge... 17:36 because it tries to present me as something that 17:38 I'm really not, when I search my heart, and especially 17:41 search the Word of God and therefore, TKS came into 17:44 fruition because TKS is a counter to that showing the 17:47 reality that, it's not about knowledge of self, 17:49 but it's about a true knowledge of self... and that's why 17:52 TKS was birthed. I love it... what do you think 17:54 Brother Lance? Yeah, people have to understand 17:57 that just like any other culture there is a way of dress, 18:00 a way of speaking in music, there's also the religious 18:04 aspects and both of us, as we got entrenched, and we got older 18:09 and started thinking and considering about, 18:10 considering philosophy, and world views and things like this 18:15 we started going into one of the elements of hip-hop... 18:19 the knowledge... you know, Knowledge, Wisdom and 18:20 Understanding... that knowledge side, 18:23 where now they are starting to say, "Well these religions are 18:25 false, this is the true religion you need to know yourself, 18:29 the true self" and we became almost, I know, at least for me 18:32 it was almost addictive... you want that knowledge 18:35 and you saw that it was so impressive that you wanted 18:37 to know it and you wanted to kind of be that... 18:39 Oh, you know, this is so true because as I think about 18:44 my experience in New Age Medicine, how, 18:47 Satan just knows how to package it because 18:50 the knowledge of self philosophy is just New Age packaged for 18:55 Black folks... that's really what it is... 18:57 and then, you know, really when you think about it, 18:59 and then there's the Human Potential Movement 19:01 which is, you know, packaged for the general population... 19:04 so, when you really think about it, Satan wants to, if you have 19:11 any intelligence, you know, you love knowing things, 19:16 you love getting into what's... what "Knowledge" is and 19:21 knowing about yourself and being able to let other people know, 19:24 some of the things that you know it really... it goes along 19:27 with your pride... it really does... 19:30 it plays into pride... That's right... 19:31 So what you are doing, and tell me if this is right, with TKS, 19:36 you guys are giving... there's a true and a counterfeit 19:39 you're giving the truth... That's correct... 19:41 and that is just incredible... so, what is your burden 19:45 for people that are caught up in this lifestyle? 19:49 What is your burden for them? My burden is that they first 19:52 learn the truth... Jesus meant it when he said 19:55 in John 8 and verse 32... You shall know the truth and the 19:57 truth will make you free... We are in bondage and this 20:01 bondage goes beyond racial barriers and societal issues 20:04 and the list goes on... The greatest bondage that 20:06 God wants to free us from is the bondage of sin... 20:09 and therefore, Christ came with truth... 20:11 it was lies that brought sin into the world and this truth 20:14 is going to get it out... and therefore, this is what my 20:16 burden is, is that people will come to know the truth 20:19 about the knowledge of self... knowledge of themselves... 20:22 a true knowledge of themselves.. realize their weaknesses, 20:24 but realize God's strength, and its availability... 20:27 to make us strong in Him. Ah... that's great... 20:31 So in addition to that, giving people the option. 20:35 I know early on and for many years, I didn't have a 20:38 legitimate option... at least I perceived that 20:41 I didn't have a choice... you know, you feel when you are 20:44 in certain circumstances, and maybe poverty and inner city 20:47 you feel that you have limited capability and potential 20:49 in options... you are either going to do this 20:51 or you are going to do this... or you are going to do this... 20:53 and pretty much... that's it. Or you are just going to 20:56 be there, and just be nobody.. and so, giving people a 20:59 legitimate option... God has been misrepresented, 21:02 to most of the people in the urban communities 21:05 and there are churches out here and all these corruption and 21:07 the scandals have misrepresented Christianity 21:10 and the Bible truths to the people... and so it raises up 21:13 these alternatives... that come and say, "Oh, that's false, 21:15 and this and that... " We want to show that the 21:18 Bible is not the one at fault... God is not the one at fault 21:21 for these misrepresentations... and these apparent 21:24 contradictions... that the Bible does have answers 21:26 that can affect our everyday life... practical knowledge... 21:29 not just abstract conceptual philosophies but actual 21:33 things that can not only impact your life but 21:36 dramatically change your life and give you power to 21:39 live successfully... That's right... 21:40 Oh, oh, oh... you know, what you are saying... I was thinking... 21:45 about a situation with this young boy... and 21:49 his mother said to me, "The thing that disturbs me," 21:52 this was in the inner city... inner city teenager, okay, 21:55 "... the thing that disturbs me so much," she said, 21:58 "about my son is that he thinks that this is all there is... 22:02 that this is the only life that he can live... 22:06 he can expect nothing but death or prison," 22:09 and what you're saying is... that you want to let 22:13 our kids and anybody that's caught up into this kind of 22:17 philosophy... you want to let them know that they can 22:20 dare to dream, that there is something better, 22:22 that they have options, and that the options that are 22:26 presented through the Word, are really the best, for them, 22:31 to bring them the abundant life, Yes, amen... 22:33 and so that is... see... Oh, I can't wait for our 22:37 viewers to watch this program because I've had the privilege 22:41 of watching you tape it... and I am so excited about 22:45 what you are offering... Viewer, if you know someone, 22:50 that's caught up in the hip-hop lifestyle, make sure that you 22:55 have them tune in to TKS... just check the website for the 22:59 schedule, and you'll find out when we're airing... 23:02 TKS... True Knowledge of Self... because this program is going 23:07 to be very impactful... I know it, I know it... 23:11 so what is, with the ministry that you guys are doing now, 23:15 tell us more about Tekoa... What are you doing with Tekoa? 23:20 Lance, I am going to let you speak about it... 23:21 Yeah, well Tekoa, we started out and we're still continuing to 23:25 be a missionary training school, and so we'd like to bring 23:28 together, young people that are willing to commit at least 23:31 a minimum of one year of their lives to learning basic 23:35 Bible truths, and also learning how to witness for God, 23:39 evangelism... to actually going to an area, particularly, 23:43 going to the cities, and actually winning souls, 23:47 for the kingdom of God... and not just again, 23:50 in an abstract sense but in a practical sense... 23:53 and how can I go... if God has called me to do His work, 23:56 and I have no credentials, or no formal training, 24:01 and no connections to get any job in some ministry... 24:06 can I go and do God's work? without somebody paying me 24:11 or without somebody employing me can I do God's work faithfully, 24:15 by God calling me and just being equipped properly and going 24:18 out and doing it... and we believe that's the case, 24:21 and we believe that God's work is comprehensive... 24:24 meaning, it addresses the physical, mental, spiritual, 24:28 and the social conditions of society, so we are not just 24:31 there Bible thumping... but you are actually going 24:33 and helping people in need, and educating people and 24:36 show them how they can, maybe, help or prevent illness.. 24:39 or maybe be reversing it in some cases... 24:40 and so a comprehensive, broad based approach to ministry 24:45 training young people how to do that and of course 24:47 we travel, all of the directors and there's another... 24:50 the third director, Andre Waller, we travel, 24:52 and preach and teach and do evangelism in that regard 24:56 and teach and instruct... But God has opened up a way 25:00 for us to establish kind of an outpost operation 25:04 by which we can really carry out you know, quote unquote 25:07 like military operations for the Kingdom of God 25:09 and go into these cities, and go into these areas, 25:11 and reach God's people, in a practical way. 25:15 Amen... That's tremendous... 25:16 Praise the Lord, and you know, the last work, anyway, 25:21 is going to be done mostly by the laymen... 25:24 so we know that, you know, it's our job to carry the gospel 25:28 That's right... ... throughout the world 25:30 and you guys have a ministry to equip, pick laymen, really 25:34 to go and take the gospel. Do you have a closing thought 25:38 that you'd like to share in thirty seconds or less? 25:42 I would just let people know to always remember 25:46 that the gospel must always be practical, 25:49 whatever you learn in theory, you enquire of God, 25:52 "How can I take this theory, and Lord make this thing real 25:56 and something that I can practice day by day 25:59 so I can really experience the power of the gospel. " 26:01 Thank you... Do you have a closing thought? 26:05 Yeah, and just also understand the relationship that God 26:09 desires to have in each and every one of us, 26:12 that a relationship was broken, but God has made 26:15 every measure so that a relationship can be restored, 26:19 and God loves every one and has a plan for them, 26:22 and that they are not just out there on their own, 26:25 with no help or no future. Thank you so much, 26:29 what you guys say is so profound and I know that flesh and blood 26:35 didn't reveal it to you... Viewer, if you want to hear more 26:38 and you want to see more about the TKS experience, 26:42 you're going to have to tune in. Thank you so much for being with 26:46 us on Urban Report. May God bless you 26:49 as you continue to serve Him. I know that God has great 26:53 things for you, great things in store... 26:56 May God continue to bless you. Amen, thank you. 26:59 Thank you. 27:09 TKS is life changing... I produce the programs 27:13 and time after time, I was so blessed, 27:17 everybody in the control room was talking about how 27:20 powerful these programs were. These young men that hosted 27:25 are on fire for the Lord, and they used the Bible 27:28 to demonstrate one's true knowledge of self... 27:31 so please check the schedule on our website, 27:33 d2dnetwork. TV and find out what time the program airs, 27:38 in your time zone... Make sure to spread the word 27:41 about it to your friends and family... 27:43 anybody that's into hip-hop, I personally am not a hip-hop fan, 27:47 and I was blessed immeasurably by the programs. 27:50 You will be too. Thanks so much for tuning in, 27:53 join us next time. It just wouldn't be the same 27:56 without you. |
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