Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Dr. Marco Clark
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000054S
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00:00 What would you do if you were labeled
00:02 a functional illiterate in Grade School 00:04 and you took five years to graduate from High School? 00:07 Would you give up... or would you 00:09 dare to dream of something better? 00:11 Stay tuned to meet our special guest 00:13 and find out what he did... 00:14 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching 00:17 Urban Report... 00:41 Hello and welcome to Urban Report 00:43 my guest today is Dr. Marco Clark 00:46 CEO and Founder of the Richard Wright Public Charter 00:50 School of Journalism and Media Arts in Washington, D.C. 00:53 Welcome to Urban Report Dr. Clark... 00:56 Hi... how are you? I'm fine... I'm so glad 00:59 you are here... it's wonderful to have you... 01:02 I am blessed to be here... very glad to be on your show... 01:06 Thank you... thank you... first of all... 01:08 I want to say, Happy Birthday to you... 01:11 How did you know? Ah... you see... you see... 01:13 we find out things here at Urban Report... 01:15 Ah man... so this is a very blessed day 01:18 I tell you... I was greeted with my entire 01:22 staff and my students today... they sang to me... 01:24 made a cake for me... it's just been an awesome day 01:27 and now I get an opportunity to talk with you 01:29 about what I love... which is children and education 01:33 and learning... so I'm just so excited 01:34 I thank God for this privilege. Praise the Lord... 01:37 you know... in talking to you... 01:39 and I've had the opportunity to talk to you... 01:42 on a few occasions... and I just love your 01:46 passion for the students... you have such a passion... 01:50 you... you... it's like you eat, sleep and drink your students... 01:54 and this is what we need... this is so important... 01:58 I want our viewers to know about your journey... 02:01 I think that... that plays into... 02:03 why you have such passion for these students... 02:06 tell us about your journey... Well, first of all, 02:08 I want to say is... it was a journey that was 02:11 very heartfelt... something that took me 02:14 a long time to want to share... and so, I always start out 02:17 by saying... individuals that share the 02:19 same story that I'm going to tell you guys... 02:21 I want them to be able to tell other folks as well 02:24 because it's going to be able to help them... 02:26 I was ashamed... for a long time... 02:29 to tell folks that I was labeled as a 02:31 functional illiterate... at 11-years-old... 02:35 I was ashamed to tell folks that it took five years 02:38 to graduate from High School, and you know 02:40 that journey in itself took a while... 02:42 so that's something that I really had to pray over 02:44 so, I wanted to put that out there and really challenge folks 02:48 that had challenges like I've overcome 02:51 and be able to share this, so.. to share a little bit about 02:54 my journey... at 11-years-old... 02:56 I was brought into a Guidance Counselor's Office 03:00 and I was asked, you know, to just sit still... 03:03 and for that moment I worked really diligently 03:06 to be a good student... I was excited about words 03:11 I could spell but I had a problem with 03:13 comprehension and I didn't know that... at that time... 03:16 but... 11-years-old... I was brought into this office 03:19 and the Guidance Counselor didn't mumble a word 03:22 she just asked me to sit down and to be still and 03:25 called my mom... and it was interesting 03:28 because I was looking for something positive 03:31 to happen for me... and then my mom 03:33 came to the School and inside of that moment 03:36 I saw this look on my mom's face and I'd never seen that 03:41 and I started to wonder what did I do wrong... 03:43 you know... what was going on when I initially thought 03:46 they were talking to me about something that was going to be 03:49 very positive... I took that same 03:52 feeling home that evening and my mom didn't talk to me 03:55 it was interesting that she didn't fuss at me... 03:58 so, it was like... I was still wondering 04:01 what did I do... the Guidance Counselor really 04:04 didn't say anything... but they gave me this long 04:07 word that said, "You are a functional illiterate" 04:10 and at 11-years-old... I had no idea what that meant 04:13 it wasn't until dinner time at night 04:16 my mom... waited on my dad to get home 04:19 and they sat me down and explained what 04:21 functional illiteracy was and in that... 04:24 it sort of took my high-note about School 04:27 to a very negative low... and that negative low 04:30 carried me... all the way through High School 04:33 and that negative low pushed me until 04:36 when I was about 15-years-old I started to steal cars 04:41 I was... on those corners... because that label 04:44 made me feel as though... I was different than everybody else 04:47 that label... made me feel like I could not achieve 04:51 what others... would achieve... and so.. 04:53 with that... I carried the burden of never, ever 04:57 receiving an award... outside of sports... 05:01 never receiving another certificate for doing 05:04 anything academically... I can honestly say that I 05:07 finished High School without ever receiving an award 05:10 for doing anything academically well... 05:12 that label did something to my life and I carried it 05:16 honestly for... since 11-years-old up until 05:19 now when I'm 43-years-old... Wow, OK, Oh, Dr. Clark... 05:24 you just said such rich such rich things... 05:26 the fact that... that you lived up to.. 05:31 the label... the thing that 05:34 they gave you.. they labeled you functionally illiterate... 05:37 and so... that did something to your head... 05:41 that made you feel like "Well, I can't dare to dream, 05:44 I can't break through anything 05:47 because I'm basically illiterate I'm functionally illiterate... 05:51 so... let me go out here and steal cars and 05:54 let me go out here and not try... because 05:56 I'm functionally illiterate... " by putting that label on you 06:00 it actually pulled you down into a place of 06:05 negative self-esteem, of feeling as though... 06:09 you can't achieve... and so... why try... why try... 06:14 I had the feeling, you know, every child wants their parents 06:17 to be proud of them... Yes... 06:19 and being the youngest child in my family... 06:22 it really did something to my feeling towards academics 06:26 at that moment, 06:28 having to have my parents 06:30 explain what functional illiteracy was... 06:32 I began to blame myself I didn't blame anyone else 06:36 I started to question whether or not 06:38 I put all of my energy into academics 06:41 whether I did, you know, the work like I was supposed to 06:44 did I listen in class... and I really, really became 06:48 very hard on myself... my own worst critic 06:51 that label itself really did a lot for my self-esteem 06:55 and when I say... a lot... it hurt the self-esteem 06:59 that I had... a person who, you know, 07:02 you got to understand... I thought I was 07:03 the bark in the dog, and the cat's meow... 07:05 you got to understand... 07:09 you couldn't tell me that I was not a winner 07:13 and at that moment I felt a real low... and so... 07:16 what I started to do was... to excel... 07:19 and what I've learned you know, now, looking back 07:23 is that... a child will be successful 07:25 whether it's a positive or a negative... 07:27 they are going to find something that's going to allow them 07:30 to have a winning opportunity... and that's what I did... 07:33 and so I turned to the negative side because it seemed like 07:36 that I can have a very positive outcome... 07:39 I got praise from my friends I got praise from people 07:43 in the Community... I was being praised 07:45 for doing things... but... doing things that were wrong 07:47 by individuals that were a part of that... and so... 07:50 so that made me happy... Yes... look at that... 07:54 you just said something else... that was really deep... 07:57 that basically... a child is going to seek 08:01 some kind of positive outcome... something that's going to make 08:05 him or her feel better about themselves... 08:08 even... if it's within a negative context... 08:11 so... that's what you were trying to do... 08:14 you were trying to find something to hold on to 08:17 that would make you feel better about who you were... 08:20 because at that point... you felt so low... 08:23 as though you had let your folks down 08:26 I think that's what I'm hearing, that you feel as though 08:30 you had let them down... and that... well... 08:32 you might as well get... some kind of positive accolades 08:35 from your friends... because you're parents 08:37 were let down now... disappointed in you... 08:40 Absolutely... absolutely... and I was trying to figure out 08:44 some way to compensate for that which I didn't do in School 08:48 and it was really, really... that your peers 08:52 will give you that... you know, that help in the direction 08:56 that you're looking for in a positive direction 08:59 if the adults that you see everyday don't do it... 09:02 Yes... yes... now... did you come from a spiritual background 09:05 were your parents Christian people... 09:07 You know what's interesting... I grew up as a Pastor's son... 09:11 so I'm a PK... Pastor's Kid You're a PK... what... 09:13 Oh... see... I didn't know that. I am a PK and you know... 09:19 they all... and so... I had that label to deal with as well... 09:22 you know... you're a PK 09:23 which they all say... you're the worst children 09:26 and so... you know... with that that was a label that I had 09:31 so... it was me feeling that you know, here was a guy... that 09:34 I had to go to Church... we were at Church every week 09:38 and... but... there were all the kids that were getting 09:42 accolades even in Church.. so... I didn't get accolades at School 09:45 I didn't get accolades at Church it was embarrassing 09:48 to have a father that was the Pastor 09:50 and his son... never got an accolade for doing academic 09:53 things well... so it was really, really 09:56 a challenging situation and I could not wait 09:59 until my parents said, "You don't have to go 10:01 every Sunday... just every other Sunday" 10:03 so at least I could plan out my strategy 10:05 not to be there when the awards came out... 10:07 Oh... bless your heart... how heavy that must have been 10:11 for you... to carry that... 10:12 It was a very heavy load and just to give you a few 10:17 items of things that I endured, you know... 15-years-old... 10:22 school really didn't mean much, I played football 10:25 did well in football, and after the season, you know, 10:28 I went back to the streets... 10:30 I realized there were some things that I'm thankful for... 10:33 blessed about... is that I had parents 10:36 that I was accountable to... but during the time 10:39 that I was out... they didn't know what was going on 10:41 so, in that freedom that I had, I was doing things 10:44 that I wasn't supposed to... and with that.. I got in trouble 10:49 for, you know, lifting a car... and got caught and, you know, 10:53 got in trouble inside of School, and got put out of School 10:58 for actually drinking a beer, you know, 11:02 I was caught drinking a beer... just to be with my friends, 11:07 you know, and got expelled from School... 11:10 I had to go to Night School for a year 11:12 which caused me to have to be in High School... an extra year 11:15 so it took 5 years to graduate from High School 11:18 and I was just doing any and everything that I could 11:22 to try to find some peace and happiness within myself 11:25 and everything that I did seemed to turn into a dead-end 11:29 a dead-end... no matter which direction I was going 11:32 my grades clearly weren't there, 5 years in High School 11:36 and I wind up graduating with a 1.6 grade average 11:40 and so I had... no grades... I took the SAT 11:43 I scored 480 on the SAT and they give you 200 points 11:48 at that time for signing your name 11:49 so, you're talking about a kid that really, really 11:52 was challenged by Public School so much that 11:55 when I graduated... and I finally got a diploma 11:58 I burned the diploma... Oh, yeah, that had to have been 12:04 so painful for you to carry 12:07 that load in your heart 12:10 of under-achievement... in your heart of hearts 12:15 you probably knew... "Hey, I'm not slow, 12:18 I have a good sense of the world around me... 12:23 I'm not slow... so why is it that I'm not achieving... 12:27 that had to be... so hard for you... 12:29 So... at what point did things turn around for you? 12:32 What happened was... 12:34 after I graduated 12:36 from High School... you know... in the midst of that 12:38 I met a Counselor... the last year... 12:40 so, you know, this is where it is a great thing 12:43 God steps in and puts you in places and times and spaces 12:47 when it needs to happen... and now... looking back 12:49 I recognize that the 5th year was necessary... 12:52 I was there for that 5th year so that I could meet that Counselor 12:55 because she wasn't there during the four years 12:58 that I was in High School... that 5th year... she came... 13:00 new to the School and she said there's something 13:02 about you... that... I'm going to help... 13:05 you know... and I said... well... whatever... 13:08 if you could perform miracles... then let's just do it... 13:10 she said... "No matter what happens... we're going to find 13:12 a way to get you in College... and we're going to work together 13:15 and make it happen... " so... I tell you... 13:17 I had a 150 rejections from Colleges and Universities 13:21 all across this Nation that I was trying to get in... 13:24 and there was a Dean at Clark Atlanta University 13:28 that I contacted over and over and over again 13:31 about trying to get into Clark Atlanta University 13:34 and he finally talked with me and I was able to give him 13:38 my story... well, his response was 13:41 "This story sounds great... I've heard a lot of these 13:44 kinds of stories... but I need you to write it 13:46 and if you can write this story, let me read over it... 13:49 and I'll think about it and I'll see what I can do for you... " 13:52 well, I wrote him a letter... I got help from my Counselor 13:55 we wrote a letter... and I was able to really talk 13:59 about my challenges very explicitly 14:02 and talk about where the pain and issues were happening... 14:05 from age 11 and how I got to this point 14:08 and I sent him a letter... and that wasn't good enough... 14:11 it took some perseverance as well because 14:13 I called him... religiously... every Friday... 14:17 until I finally got him on the phone again... 14:21 and it was just happenstance 14:24 that, you know, he picked up the phone... trying to dial out 14:27 to call someone else... and I happened to be on the line 14:30 within that whole dialogue 14:37 I was able to say... "Listen... this is Marco Clark 14:39 I'm really trying to get in... if you would just give me 14:43 an opportunity... I promise you... 14:45 I will not let you down... I promise you that... 14:47 he said... "Well, I read your story... 14:49 it was very compelling... " and he said... 14:51 "You have been faithful enough to call me over and over 14:54 and over again... and actually I wasn't planning to talk to you 14:58 right now but there has to be a reason that we're talking 15:00 so I'm going to give you an opportunity 15:02 and I'm going to put you on probation, 15:04 and I'm going to check on you and you're going to check in 15:07 with me every two weeks to let me know your progress 15:09 and I'm going to give you one Semester to ship up or ship out" 15:12 and... you know... we were able to do that 15:15 he aligned me with an Advisor that was really, really great... 15:20 Dr. Johnny L. Wilson and I would just have to say 15:23 that one teacher, you know, pretty much saved my life 15:26 it wasn't until I got to College that 15:28 I had a teacher that 15:30 really stepped in and said, "Listen... we're going to 15:32 make something happen for you" that was my Advisor, Dr. Wilson 15:35 at Clark Atlanta University... You know... Dr. Clark... 15:40 look at how God... works things through... 15:43 God had... His plan for you... and, you know, of course, 15:48 the enemy had his plan... the enemy wanted you to 15:50 spiral downward... and just be destroyed... 15:54 but God's plan was for you 15:56 to continue... to persevere... and you pushed through... 16:00 you pushed through that label, you pushed through 16:04 by every week... calling... this Professor... 16:07 over and over and letting him know that you were motivated 16:11 some kids... quit before they have reached their goal 16:17 because they just don't push through... 16:20 but you did... and what do you think, besides, of course 16:24 the Lord... because the Lord's hand was obviously on you... 16:28 What do you think you did by pushing through? 16:31 Well, I think... one of the things I proved 16:34 something to myself... first of all... 16:36 that I can get in the door if I was very persistent 16:39 prayed and stayed faithful about it... that... 16:42 that would happen... and first of all... 16:43 I had to be honest also with the challenges that I had 16:47 and honest with the things that I did wrong... 16:50 you know... you have to own up to some of the things 16:53 that I probably could have done better... 16:54 I couldn't blame everybody about my shortcomings... 16:58 I couldn't say that it was just, you know, I had a poor 17:01 Public School experience... but what part did I play 17:04 and I think onus of that... but even with that... 17:07 perseverance still... became a story for me 17:09 because even when I got on the campus... 17:12 I had a class that was a 17:13 Biology class and I had never been in a classroom 17:17 a lecture hall with 150 kids and you know, 17:20 with that we had this gentleman Dr. Amron... and I remember 17:23 it like yesterday that his class was so intimidating to me 17:28 that you walk in and here were like 10 chalk boards 17:31 that would go up and down... and it seemed like 17:33 he had them all filled up every time you came in and so... 17:37 it was very intimidating... this Biology class... 17:39 that I began to play games... you know... tick tack toe... 17:43 and moved over one side... so on Monday I sat on this side 17:46 of the classroom and on Wednesday... I sat in the middle 17:49 on Friday... a different side... and I did that as a strategy 17:52 trying to get around his class hoping that 17:56 he wouldn't call on me because I saw what happened 17:59 when he called kids up to the board... 18:01 and they didn't know the answer and it was really... oh man... 18:06 it was a major piece of work for me... 18:08 I thought that I was smart but God stepped in and made 18:12 me realize something... that basically... 18:14 that's what I had been trying to do a long time... 18:17 get around an issue rather than meeting it head on 18:20 in order to make things happen so... I finally got caught 18:24 and I was called to that board and, you know, what happened 18:28 I got to the board and I had stayed up... trying to study 18:31 all night but for some reason I just couldn't comprehend 18:35 the work... and so I stood at that board 18:37 and while my back to my peers, they were snickering and making 18:41 you know... smart gestures but what they didn't know was that 18:45 on the other side of that board where I was staring at the board 18:49 faking like I was going to try to answer the question 18:53 I was really crying... it's what I was doing... 18:56 I was really crying because... I was getting that feeling again 19:01 that I had at 11-years-old when I was told that I was a 19:03 functional illiterate... and I found myself again 19:07 at 18-years-old... standing at a board 19:10 not understanding why I'm being ridiculed... 19:12 so I had no other recourse but to cry... 19:15 and so after that particular day and I was able to... 19:19 and he finally said... you know "You can leave" 19:21 and I ran to my advisor and I said, "You know, I'm finished 19:25 with this College mess... maybe the folks that told me 19:29 I was a functional illiterate at 11-years-old... 19:31 maybe they were right... " you know... "I think that... 19:33 I don't know what I'm going to do with myself 19:36 but I think... I was accomplishing things 19:38 in the streets... so why should I stay here and be ridiculed 19:42 for trying to do my best... " and he said, "You know Son, 19:46 it's not the fact that you are not trying... 19:48 it's not that you don't have perseverance... 19:50 it's not that you don't have the will... 19:52 what you have an issue with is reading... 19:55 you have problems with reading comprehension... " 19:58 and the challenge for me... and it clicked that day 20:02 that I had gone my... all of this time... 20:04 and made it all the way to College and realized 20:07 that I could not read... and so because that Professor 20:11 got with me and got a tutor for every class that I had 20:15 you know... and they gave me strategies... 20:18 taught me strategies... on how to be able to break down 20:22 large passages into smaller chunks and to make note 20:25 to make me get better academically 20:28 and because I had that perseverance... 20:30 I was able to move forward... so once that green light jumped on 20:34 I took off and after that time, I had graduated from 20:37 High School with a 1.6 grade average 20:40 scoring 460 on the SAT... to graduating with 20:44 3.3 Undergrad... 3.5 Masters... 20:48 3.9 Doctoral Level... Come on... come on... 20:51 because... those days... the light turned on... 20:55 and it was about being faithful... having perseverance 20:58 and having someone that stood right in the clutch with me 21:02 got in the clutch with me... and said... 21:04 "I refuse to allow you to fail, and you're not going back home 21:07 we are not going to let that happen... 21:09 we are going to get you to where you should go 21:10 so that you can be successful. " That is so rich Dr. Clark... 21:15 that is so rich... you had a crisis at that 21:19 black board... and had you not had a caring Counselor 21:25 a mentor... that... kind of took you by the hand 21:29 and said... "You're not going to quit. " 21:30 and he identified the problem... the problem was reading... 21:34 and once that problem was addressed... 21:37 God just... you know... God opened that up to you 21:40 so that you saw what the problem was... and then you 21:43 just soared... and praise God for that... 21:46 because... you went from that 1 point something GPA 21:51 to a 3.9... which is just about a 4.0... 21:55 which is tremendous 21:58 praise the Lord for that... and so now... here you are... 22:02 as the Head of this School and I know that 22:06 you see children who are like you 22:09 tell us about that... tell us about your School. 22:12 My School is Richard Wright Public Charter School 22:16 for Journalism and Media Arts and I see... basically 80% 22:20 of my kids are just like me... 80% of these kids are 22:23 coming in reading 3- and-4-grade levels behind 22:26 by the time we get them... 80% of these kids come there 22:31 with, you know, in areas of the city that are known 22:35 for poor Public School education many of these kids 22:39 are just striving to have something positive 22:42 happen for them... and so... I am able to relate to them 22:47 and I don't hide the story... that's why I said... 22:51 it's a blessing... and sometimes folks don't 22:54 understand that... like when you miss a step 22:56 and you remain somewhere for an extra year... 22:59 your time is being ordered... that verse in Proverbs 23:02 which I love... "My steps are ordered" 23:04 so, I know the fact that, you know, sometimes your steps 23:08 are there for you to go through 23:09 so you can arrive at the place that you need to 23:11 and so I share my story with my kids so 23:14 I've been able to help many kids because 23:16 I'm sharing my story because they say, 23:18 "Hey, you know Doc... I didn't know that... 23:21 that was your story... I didn't know that 23:23 that's what happened with you, that's how I feel 23:26 how can we work... what are you going to do?" 23:28 and I'm saying to those kids just like that Counselor 23:30 said to me... "I will get you to College 23:33 if you listen... I will get you to College 23:35 if you're willing to work hard, I will get you to College 23:38 if you would do what I'm telling you 23:40 like Dr. Wilson told me and if I give you a tutor 23:43 you go see that tutor... if I give you extra work... 23:45 you do the extra work and we'll work together 23:48 to get you to a place... my kids are phenomenal 23:51 and so... we created journalism and media arts as our theme 23:54 because one... I could address the issue with reading... 23:58 which was a major thing for me because if you can't read... 24:01 you can't do anything... the second thing is... 24:04 if we did journalism... I would make you write... 24:06 so you would have to use your reading skills 24:09 to research in order to be able to find out 24:11 what you're going to put on paper... 24:13 and learn how to write... so if you can read... 24:15 and you can write... the next thing you will be 24:17 able to do... we work on your speaking 24:19 because if you can read, write and speak... 24:21 then you can advocate for yourself... 24:23 and you could actually do what the African proverb says 24:26 "It takes a whole village... to raise a child... " 24:28 so that means you will be reaching back... 24:30 to grab individuals to put them in a place 24:32 that is... is great... and that you're going to change 24:35 the Community one student at a time... 24:37 and so... this Media Arts thing, we put that on a twist 24:41 because all the kids are excited about Media... 24:43 so if I can wrap you around with that 24:45 and put in some reading and writing... ah man... 24:48 I got a student that is... a bomb... 24:51 I mean this kid's going to change the Community 24:53 there's nothing you are going to be able to say to my kids 24:56 because they're going to be armed and dangerous 24:58 in a positive manner... their minds are going to be set 25:01 that energy level is going to be up 25:04 and there's nothing that you're going to be... 25:05 you're not going to ever be able to out-work them 25:07 I tell my staff... you can't out-work me... 25:09 I get up at 3:30 in the morning and I don't leave work 25:12 till 7 at night... you can't outwork me... 25:14 and that's what I want our kids to be able to do... 25:17 That's tremendous Dr. Clark... you are the poster boy 25:20 for Dare to Dream... you know that right? 25:23 you are the... You know... and I appreciate 25:26 the compliment... you know... but what I just want to be 25:29 is a blessing to everybody that has the same challenge 25:32 what I really want is my story to change 25:35 someone else's life... I am thankful that 25:38 I made it through this journey, so that I can be able to help 25:42 others make it through the same journey that I, you know, 25:45 trudged my way through... because it was very difficult 25:49 and there were a lot of tears that I shed 25:51 to get to this moment... Yes, I'm sure... I'm sure... 25:55 and I'm so thankful that you persevered and that now 25:59 you can reach back... and help other young people 26:03 who are going through what you went through 26:05 and you can give them a safe environment in the School 26:08 and they can blossom there and they can understand 26:11 who they are... and I know it's a Public School 26:14 so you can't do religious instruction 26:16 but I know that you too... you have that assembly 26:20 tell us about that assembly that you have... 26:22 Hey, listen... I smile when you said, "No we can't do... " 26:24 you know... there's a separation between 26:28 Church and State... but what I will say is this... 26:31 when you come in our building and we serve kids 26:34 from the most impoverished wards in the district... 26:37 most schools in the District... High Schools have 26:40 metal detectors... they have police officers... 26:42 security guards... we don't have that... 26:44 what we have is... when you check in... 26:46 we don't wand you in the morning with a wand 26:49 to see whether or not you have a weapon... 26:51 what we do is... we wand you to make sure 26:53 that you got that homework... so you got to turn your homework 26:55 when you come in this building.. you line up.. with your homework 26:59 that's your pass entry and your uniform is appropriate 27:02 that's how we do it... the next thing is... 27:04 that we have a lot of expectations for our kids 27:06 but not only do I teach the kids that we have expectations 27:10 for them... but they should have expectations for us 27:13 and so... it's about them holding us accountable 27:16 just like we're holding them accountable... 27:18 also, when you come into our... we have a Community Meeting 27:22 every morning... because I recognize that kids come 27:25 from some challenged situations, and they need a moment 27:28 to transition... so during our morning assembly... 27:31 we call it... Family Matters... Dr. Clark, I want to hear more 27:36 about Family Matters and I can't because our time is up... 27:40 you got to come back... I will come back... 27:42 I'll be more than happy to... Praise the Lord... 27:45 Thank you so much for everything we really appreciate you 27:49 and all that you're doing... Thank you too. 27:52 God bless you... I don't know where our time 27:55 is gone... but... I just want you to know 27:57 we appreciate your tuning in... Join us next time... 28:00 It just wouldn't be the same without you... |
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