Urban Report

The XY Theory

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Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Dr. John K. Jacob

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00:01 Are you single and looking for that special someone?
00:03 Are you married and wondering how can I make this better?
00:07 Well, stay tuned to meet someone who can tell you
00:10 just why things may be going awry in your relationship.
00:14 My name is Yvonne Lewis, and you're watching Urban Report
00:38 Hello and welcome to Urban Report
00:41 My guest today is Dr. John K. Jacob
00:44 author of the XY Theory and President of XYMatchquest. com
00:50 Welcome to Urban Report Dr. Jacob...
00:53 Thank you Dr. Lewis, thank you. Yeah... I'm glad you're here.
00:55 You know, so many people are wanting to be
00:59 either in a relationship or they're already in a
01:02 relationship and it's just really... shaky...
01:05 What... What are some of the reasons why
01:11 you've written this book about relationships?
01:15 Well, about 90 percent of relationships...
01:19 dating relationships never go all the way... to marriage,
01:24 Hmmmm...... about over 90 percent
01:25 and when we the tested couples, we even found for them
01:29 85 percent of them were in what I call an XY Relationship
01:32 where they are mismatched...
01:34 Oh, so, is that why
01:37 they don't go further... because they find out
01:39 that they're mismatched? Yeah, 90 percent of the singles
01:41 don't go further, they don't know why they are mismatched,
01:44 Right...... they just know that
01:45 something isn't right... so, they have the option
01:48 to break it off... because they're not married yet
01:51 and find someone else... but over 90 percent of them
01:54 do that and the real reason is personality difference
01:57 that they are completely unaware of...
01:59 Huh... so let's talk about that, so, in your book you talk about
02:03 X and Y personalities... describe that...
02:07 OK, it's a personality type and there are other personality
02:11 types out there... but I wanted to take it a step
02:14 further and find what I call "a personality code"
02:16 personality types actually will tell you
02:19 how someone is going to behave, but I realize that we've known
02:24 that for a long time and our divorce rate
02:25 is still at 50 percent... so I did some more research...
02:28 about five years worth of it... I actually found that
02:31 when you look at something a little deeper...
02:33 a personality code which is... not just how
02:36 someone would behave but what someone's actual needs
02:39 are in the relationship, this is something that's not
02:43 known generally... no one really tells someone else
02:46 "OK, this is what I need specifically"
02:47 most of us don't know...
02:50 so I had to create a test
02:52 that could tell you what your specific needs are
02:54 in the relationship, so you have an idea
02:57 of what kind of person you need to be looking for.
02:59 Oh, that's great... so how did you...
03:01 let's go back and talk about how you got to this point
03:06 how did you decide that you wanted to write
03:08 about a relationship? Okay... quite accidently
03:11 there were a few things... one... I was bothered by the
03:14 fact that the ratio of single men...
03:16 especially in Church Organizations...
03:19 the ratio of single women to men is 6 to 1...
03:22 Hmmmm... So immediately I thought
03:24 "Okay... our sisters need to date smarter... "
03:28 We need some help... give us some help...
03:30 ...that we cannot do things the way we've been doing it
03:32 because that ratio is horrific, Right... right...
03:34 ...so that was the first thing, the second thing is, of course,
03:38 the divorce rate is skyrocketing in Christian circles...
03:43 now it's at 49 percent... the last time I looked at it
03:46 which is just on par with what's going on outside,
03:49 That's almost half..... yes, and it's as bad as it is
03:52 for non-Christians... Yes... yes...
03:54 so, that was alarming... and, you know,
03:56 I tend to be very curious... I was curious to know
03:58 what might be causing that... but also, and I did get
04:03 permission to talk about this, but I observed my parents...
04:08 Okay... let's talk about that... Yeah, I grew up in a
04:12 Seventh-day Adventist home, I grew up Catholic
04:14 but we converted pretty early, and so I was able to have that,
04:17 you know, Seventh-day Adventist background...
04:20 and I observed three things in my parents...
04:22 number one... I observed that they truly loved the Lord
04:25 and I observed that they really loved the Church
04:28 they became officers, they did whatever they could
04:31 to help out... and I noticed that Church members
04:35 began to put them on a pedestal, Hmmmm...
04:38 the perfect marriage... "Look at Brother and Sister Jacob
04:42 it's so wonderful and you young people need to have
04:46 a relationship like this... " but they didn't go home with us.
04:51 Hmmmm... My parents stayed together
04:55 for 51 years because of their commitment to God
04:57 and their commitment to marriage... and to each other
05:00 but they weren't happy... and so from a very young age
05:04 it occurred to me that there has to be more than spirituality
05:07 that's causing the poison that we have
05:11 in relationships right now and leading us
05:14 all the way to divorce courts...
05:15 there had to be something more, so, the moment I hit college,
05:19 I started out with a degree in Theology...
05:22 because I wanted to understand that aspect first...
05:25 and then went right into... a Ph. D. in Psychology...
05:28 and started doing research, and the more research I did
05:30 the more I discovered that personality differences
05:33 were wrecking havoc in our relationships
05:36 way more than spirituality... This is so interesting Dr. Jacob
05:41 because, you know, we have, and this is not just in your home
05:46 but in many homes... we have a face for Church
05:50 and we have a face at home... Absolutely... absolutely...
05:54 and what you're telling me is that what you saw at home
05:57 was a different face from what you saw... at Church...
06:00 and it wasn't that your parents didn't love God...
06:03 they obviously did... it wasn't that they didn't love
06:05 each other... they did... but... but they had these underlying
06:09 issues... so you did... what many people might not do
06:13 you went and got a Ph. D. and found out how to address it.
06:17 Exactly... exactly... Which is tremendous...
06:18 So, what did you find in your research?
06:22 What did you find? Okay... you mentioned persona
06:25 and that's perfect... that's exactly what I found
06:28 I found out, and in addition, of course,
06:30 other Sociologists and Psychologists have been doing
06:34 research and there's a lot of research within the last
06:37 10-15 years... and so what I found, out of my research,
06:40 is that we actually have two personalities...
06:43 Hmmmm... so we have a Social Personality
06:46 and we have a Relationship Personality...
06:49 Okay... explain that...
06:50 Okay, the Social Personality is the one that you use in Church,
06:53 Ahh... That's the Church Face...
06:55 The Church face... okay... all right...
06:57 it has one responsibility... and that is...
06:59 to make you look good... Hmmmm...
07:01 that person will be your make-up artist...
07:03 Okay... That person will make sure
07:05 that people like you... that you present yourself
07:07 in a way that people think the best of you,
07:09 it also operates on the job, which is why, very often,
07:15 people again... don't know who you really are...
07:17 when they see you only operating when other
07:21 important people are observing you...
07:23 Yes... Unfortunately,
07:25 the "Social Persona" is also responsible for dating,
07:28 Hmmm... your best foot forward, so to speak,
07:31 ...totally... and now we know for a fact
07:33 that it has a whole cache of hormones
07:36 that that it can use to trip us up...
07:39 in that process... there are hormones
07:41 that come into play only when you think
07:43 about dating someone that actually causes you
07:46 to be blinded to their faults. Come on now, Doc...
07:49 Absolutely... Come on now...
07:51 so you're telling us that there are actually physiological
07:55 mechanisms in place that can help us not to see
08:00 who we're dealing with... Absolutely...
08:02 Wow... how deep is that! It's a little scary...
08:07 Yes! yeah... Also, the whole gamut...
08:11 the feeling of the butterflies in the stomach...
08:13 all of that is chemical... Yes...
08:15 the feeling of falling in love, you're getting on the phone
08:18 and you're talking until four in the morning...
08:20 and don't even know where the time went...
08:22 Yeah... So, normally you'd have been
08:23 hungry... but the hormones suppressed that...
08:26 even the appetite... to prepare you to fall in love.
08:29 So, that's why sometimes people lose weight...
08:32 Yes...... when they are just
08:33 falling in love... Absolutely...
08:35 they can tend to lose weight... because, they're not as hungry,
08:38 isn't that amazing the way the body is made?
08:43 It absolutely is... So what do you do, so tell us,
08:45 But here's the problem... so the Social Personality,
08:49 however... and you also have the euphoria and the excitement
08:53 Right...... but that actually comes from
08:54 finding someone that is somewhat different from you...
08:57 Hmmm... hmmmm... which is why we hear
08:58 "opposites attract" Yes...
08:59 opposites still attract... even in XY Theory...
09:02 opposites attract... the problem is...
09:04 the hormones that cause an attraction...
09:06 are withdrawn... when you get
09:08 deep into the relationship,
09:10 deep into the commitment, maybe even to the marriage,
09:13 those hormones are withdrawn along with the
09:16 social personality... whose job is finished...
09:18 You know what! this is really...
09:22 this is so interesting because I'm thinking about
09:23 my own personal life and my past...
09:26 and this is so interesting because that's very true
09:29 the deeper you get into, like you can get into a marriage
09:33 and then go, "Whoa... what did I do?"
09:36 what did I do... and why is so clear to me now?
09:38 no offense to any of my exes... but yeah, but that is amazing..
09:43 ...and like any other hormone in the body...
09:45 the body gets used to the chemicals that you put in it...
09:48 Right... right... and so... somewhere between
09:51 three months and two years... most of us will get
09:55 our bodies will get tolerant of the hormones
09:58 and so, once those happy hormones are withdrawn...
10:01 you see the person very clearly for who they really are...
10:05 by then the social personality is gone...
10:07 and the relationship personality emerges which is the person
10:10 you are stuck with, if you're married,
10:12 for the rest of your life... Dr. Jacob, that's deep
10:15 so, now let me ask you something can you then...
10:18 does this make a case... then... for longer dating time
10:23 so that... you kind of get to find out
10:26 who the person really is?
10:27 who their relational face is? Longer... but not too long...
10:34 Okay... explain... Now, we have two personalities
10:37 you have an X type and Y type personality,
10:39 coming from the research... and they date differently...
10:44 this is the reason why, I'm saying, "Not too long"
10:46 we know for a fact that X type personalities tend to waste
10:51 a lot of years... a lot of time on relationships
10:55 that are going nowhere... hmmmm...
10:57 Y types do not... X types date with their hearts,
11:04 Y types date with their heads. Okay, so wait, let's go back now
11:09 okay, so, one side is more right-brained
11:12 and the other is more left-brained
11:14 are you saying that? Pretty much...
11:15 and who is more right-brained? Right-brained would probably be
11:20 what are you thinking... the X or the Y?
11:22 Well, I'm not sure... I'm trying to get it clear
11:25 in my head... one thinks with the head,
11:27 the other thinks with the heart, which one thinks with the heart?
11:30 The X thinks with the heart, Okay... so the X would maybe
11:33 tend to be more right-brained than the Y...
11:35 OK... So, the X now,
11:38 does a lot of things... which is one of the reasons
11:41 why I wrote the book as we said, we have a
11:43 "singles" problem...
11:45 Yes...... in and outside of the Church
11:47 I mean, if you go to New York, the ratio is 2 to 1...
11:49 so the possibility in New York, and big cities, 2 to 1...
11:52 so, this is not the place to find someone... I mean...
11:55 and other demographics factor in...
11:56 Yes... But X types tend to do several
12:00 things that do not help them actually find that person and if
12:04 you have a ratio of 6 to 1 the odds are not in your favor
12:08 then you have to date "smarter" Right... which we should, anyway
12:12 Right? So X types for starters
12:14 they... we all have a blueprint,
12:17 and I'll talk about that blueprint in a little bit...
12:21 but we all have a blueprint
12:22 coming to us from childhood, given to us by our parents,
12:24 given to us by society, by culture,
12:26 and it sort of feeds to our standards...
12:32 it tells us what our standards should be in a partner,
12:34 Hmmmm...... what Xs tend to...
12:36 when they meet someone they like... relax those standards
12:40 Hmmmm... hmmm... throw out the blueprint
12:43 and say to themselves, I'll change whatever I find,
12:47 Hmmmm... which is a big problem...
12:51 instead of dealing with the person as they are,
12:53 I'm going to change... him or her
12:55 Right... or finding someone that might use your blueprint
12:58 instead of discarding it... so, Xs do that again
13:01 because they're going with their heart...
13:03 and if this person feels right to them
13:05 Right... forget about this list...
13:07 who needs this list, "Yes, I wanted the guy to be
13:10 at least 5 ft 10 inches, but he's 4 ft 9 inches tall
13:14 then... he's really sweet, he's really sweet,
13:15 so, I'm looking to hold on to him and see how things go...
13:18 Right, right, right, right... That is not something
13:22 that a Y type does... Okay...
13:23 now, the Y type might date a 4 ft 9 inch girl
13:27 but always at the back of his mind is...
13:29 "This is not the person I'm taking home to mom"
13:31 Hmmm... hmmmm... because he's always thinking
13:35 with the head not the heart. Hmmm... hmmm...
13:38 And so, many times, you get the X type with the Y type
13:43 the X is wasting time, the Y is just maybe
13:47 marking time... and you got... an issue...
13:51 Yeah... Marking time until someone
13:53 comes along... and by the way,
13:54 Y types are notorious for not giving closure
13:57 to their partners... Hmmmm...
13:59 the moment that other person shows up,
14:01 you have no idea, you have no clue,
14:03 the behavior changes, some of them...
14:05 completely disappear... you've heard the stories
14:07 of guys who disappeared and... without a trace...
14:09 Yes... yes... yes... yes... without a trace...
14:11 this is Y-like behavior... they tend to leave
14:14 their partners without closure...
14:15 so, when I created the test, I actually had to create
14:18 more than one test, because there were so many
14:20 women coming to me and asking me about
14:21 past relationships... Hmmm...
14:23 that I created a test that they could do... for that Ex
14:27 it's in the book... for that Ex...
14:29 and it would tell them whether he was a Y...
14:31 so they could have the closure they never had...
14:35 Oh... that's... you know... that's such a deep thing
14:38 because... closure is so important...
14:41 because it's hard to move on... really... emotionally...
14:45 if you don't have closure... from a previous relationship
14:49 so this test... actually helps the person to move on...
14:53 that's such... that's a very significant thing
14:56 Because we all want to know... where did I go wrong...
14:58 Right...... was it me...
14:59 Right... yes...... was it something about me...
15:01 well, now we're finding out... and even... some of the Science
15:04 that's coming out in the last five years...
15:06 it's telling us that the blueprint...
15:10 that the Y-type partner used, to tell him
15:13 that you were not the one, had nothing to do with you...
15:17 Hmmmm... Absolutely... handed to them
15:19 like an assignment... this is what you look for...
15:23 so, no matter how good you treated him...
15:25 no matter how good you looked, no matter how long
15:28 you put up with his nonsense his foolishness...
15:31 thinking... as an X would... that you can change him...
15:35 Hmmm... hmmmm... ... he did his thing...
15:38 he was resistant to change and it had nothing to do with you,
15:40 because, he came into the relationship...
15:42 knowing what he wanted... this is the reason why
15:45 the book is sub-titled, "How relationships end...
15:48 before they begin" because one person at least
15:50 is coming in knowing... "You're not the one...
15:52 I'm just here for some time... just, you know,
15:55 let me see my watch... let me see how long it is before I... "
15:57 Dr. Jacob you could save... you know how much...
16:01 obviously you do... you wrote the book,
16:02 how much time and emotional energy you can save someone...
16:07 if they know this... Absolutely... absolutely...
16:09 ...and also... if they know that it's nothing that they did
16:13 I think... that's so important because...
16:15 I read a book a while ago,
16:18 on, I think it was, "Men who can't love"
16:21 or something like that... and it was a few years ago
16:24 actually... and it basically alluded to the idea that
16:28 it's not necessarily you... some people are...
16:31 I call them CPs "commitment phobics"
16:33 where they just can't make the commitment...
16:35 ...those are the Y types... Those are your Y types...
16:38 yeah, and there are reasons for why they can't make a commitment
16:41 because... they have a blueprint this is the thing...
16:43 I know Xs should not throw away their blueprints
16:46 as quickly as they do... they do a lot of things wrong,
16:49 Hmmm... Xs will come in and they
16:51 have the blueprint and they give too much
16:56 Hmmmm... hmmmm... they start too early, you know,
16:59 disclosing and sharing and giving and bonding
17:02 Hmmm... hmmmm... Right...
17:03 Hmmm... hmmm... because they're thinking
17:05 with their hearts and they want that closeness
17:07 Yes... hmmm... hmmm...
17:09 and if you ever want to know if you're in an XY relationship
17:12 try and figure out who is the one doing
17:13 most of the adjusting hmmm... hmmmm...
17:15 who is the one that's doing most of the changing
17:17 the X type person is doing that
17:20 and as a result of that, they think that the person that
17:22 they are dealing with will also reciprocate in kind...
17:24 and that person doesn't... because that person
17:27 doesn't have that personality, but they don't know that
17:30 they don't understand that, so they think,
17:31 "It's just a matter of time" people need different
17:34 lengths of time... so this guy needed two years...
17:36 maybe I'll give him five, maybe after five years
17:39 he'll really change... my parents were 51 years
17:41 married when my dad passed last year...
17:44 Hmmm... hmmmm... ... and I got my dad
17:46 to take the test on his dying bed
17:48 because he refused prior to that he always said,
17:50 "I don't want the test" Hmmm... hmm...
17:51 and when he took the test, the disparity...
17:55 because the test really... the lower version of it
17:57 goes from zero to one hundred when he took the test,
17:59 my mom was 95 points meaning she always had
18:02 high needs... of things like intimacy,
18:04 high needs of communication and we'll talk
18:06 about that in a minute... Yes...
18:07 my dad scores 25
18:10 Wow! look at the disparity... ... 75 points that they never
18:15 could work on in 51 years... My...
18:18 and it didn't mean that they couldn't...
18:20 it just meant that if they knew about it,
18:22 and they knew what to do about it...
18:23 things could have been different So, are there tools
18:27 that you can use to close the gap between Xs and Ys?
18:31 Absolutely... and by the way, anything more than a
18:33 14-point difference... you already know that they are
18:36 going to have problems on a 100-point scale...
18:38 we found anything more than 14 points in communication
18:42 or intimacy... so, Xs tend to...
18:45 communication Xs... or what we call
18:47 "X Communicators" they tend to like a lot of
18:51 communication... Hmmm... hmm...
18:52 not just... they like it... but they need it...
18:54 hmmm..... this is what's the difference
18:56 between this and any other book out there...
18:58 the other books talk about... preferences...
19:00 when you go on a match-making site... they ask you
19:04 "Do you enjoy the beach?" Right...
19:05 "Do you like the movies and the opera?"
19:07 Right... Well, guess what...
19:09 they are preferences... yeah... if you don't like
19:11 to go to the beach... but the guy that takes you
19:13 to the beach... 10 times before the wedding
19:16 might not take you one time in the next ten years after...
19:21 because it's not his practice, it's a preference that he stated
19:25 again... social personality... so that he could look good
19:29 so that he can get you... So these other sites
19:32 kind of measure your social personality
19:35 and not your relational.
19:36 Exactly... Very interesting...
19:39 and the few that are catch on and trying to do a little thing
19:41 with personality... they are still doing
19:43 Personality Type... and not Personality Code...
19:46 Personality Type says "Okay... this is my type...
19:48 and this is how I behave... " remember...
19:49 Personality Code says, "I don't want to know...
19:53 just know about your type... I want to know what drives you
19:56 I want to know what will drive your practices...
19:58 I want to know if you'll continue to be nice to me...
20:02 to be good to me... the way you are right now
20:04 before I say, "I do" before I let you put that
20:07 ring on my finger... I need to know
20:08 what you're going to be like... inside of the relationship...
20:11 so,.. because you don't really know
20:13 ...because nobody can know... ... until you get there...
20:14 ...and that's the reason I put in the code...
20:16 you hear about "Da Vinci Code" and different codes...
20:18 ...but the word "code" itself simply means "covert"
20:21 you know, something that is "unknown" kind of a...
20:23 you know, like a secret... Right...
20:25 ...so the reason why... that's the reason why I said,
20:27 we need "the personality code" because we need to go
20:29 a step further to find out... "Will this person meet my...
20:33 they're meeting my needs now, will this person meet my needs
20:36 on the other side... " hmmm... hmm...
20:39 so, what I did is... I had to find a test...
20:41 create a test... and it took five years,
20:43 I made... a lot of revisions... like a 100 revisions...
20:45 I had to create a test, that would skip
20:48 your Social Personality which everyone sees...
20:51 Right...... and will go straight and
20:53 measure your Relationship Personality
20:54 which even you don't know about Wow... that is incredible...
20:58 Do you know... everybody is going to want
21:01 to take this test... I hope so...
21:03 I know you do... everybody... but I mean really
21:06 because why not... because, why not find out
21:09 who you've got or who you're considering...
21:12 Right... right... Now suppose one partner
21:15 wants to take the test and the other one... doesn't
21:19 Okay... the book has 4 tests... Okay...
21:22 two for... you know... willing partners...
21:24 Right... right... ... which, by the way,
21:26 are very rare... 15 percent, Really... so 85 percent
21:30 ...85 percent are XY couples and have a partner
21:33 that is going to be... reluctant to take the test
21:37 in fact... I even found some X types that are reluctant
21:40 to take the test... Hmmm...
21:41 Why would that be, you think? X types get their self-esteem
21:48 from who they're with... Hmmmm...
21:51 whereas Y types get their self-esteem from who they are...
21:55 Now, can you have combinations of the XY type?
21:59 Yes, we do... as a matter of fact... we actually have
22:01 we actually have four personality types
22:02 which is why I always tell people,
22:04 "You only have a 25 percent chance of accidently choosing
22:09 the right partner... " You have a 75 percent...
22:13 of not... because there are four types
22:15 and this is how it goes... you have XX...
22:17 now, the X simply means high... when you think of X...
22:20 a lot of people say, "Are those... chromosomes?"
22:22 even on the plane... I had the book out and the...
22:24 and this lady said... "You're talking about
22:26 chromosomes in your book right?" Right... right...
22:27 X and Y chromosomes, right... right... right...
22:29 ...but no... it's personality types...
22:30 X simply means high, so anything 51 points and above
22:35 is in the X category... and anyone 50 points and below
22:39 it's in the Y... so, if we're talking about
22:42 communication... somebody that has high communication needs
22:45 will be 51 points and above... somebody who has low
22:49 communication needs will be 50 and below
22:51 same thing for intimacy... so if you have high
22:54 intimacy needs... you would be an X...
22:56 what I call an intimate X and if you have a low
22:59 intimacy needs you'd be in the Y category...
23:02 so because of that... you can have an XX
23:05 meaning.. you're high with both, communication and intimacy
23:08 or you could have a YY... meaning that you are low
23:11 with both like my dad was... because my dad and my mom
23:14 were both high on both ends... and both low on the other end...
23:18 Yes... So, I mean, they really suffered
23:20 and so, you can also have a YX meaning that you have a low need
23:26 for communication... so the first letter is always
23:28 communication... so you have a low need for
23:30 communication... but you have a high need for intimacy...
23:33 Hmmm...... and then, of course,
23:35 you could have the XY... I actually have...
23:37 my best friend is in California, they've been married
23:39 for 20 years... and they have... what I call
23:42 an inverted relationship... How is that?
23:44 it's... His is YX and her's is XY
23:47 Ah... now does it work? No, it does not...
23:50 and has not... they've stuck together...
23:53 which is why... this test does not predict
23:54 whether or not you will get a divorce...
23:56 it just predicts how rough and rocky the ride is going to be...
23:58 Okay...... so they stuck it out...
24:00 but they both told me... separately... how horrible
24:05 some parts of it are... Yes...
24:07 ...and it's always predictable I could have given them
24:10 this test 20 years ago and told them exactly what to expect...
24:12 exactly what they're telling me right now...
24:13 so, with the inverted relationship...
24:17 XY... YX...
24:18 it means... one person has...
24:20 what the other person doesn't need...
24:22 and the other person is giving
24:24 what the other person doesn't want...
24:27 Wow!... so they're not speaking each other's language...
24:30 ...at all... and the two most... and when I say communication
24:33 and intimacy... I didn't just say it to make it up...
24:36 they did a tremendous amount of studies in the...
24:39 from 2000 on... and they found that...
24:41 every time couples fought... when they distilled
24:44 the arguments down, it always came back to
24:47 communication and intimacy... one or both of those
24:51 not being met... And we're not talking about
24:53 sexual intimacy right... just emotional...
24:55 ...absolutely not sexual... just emotional...
24:57 and some people say, "Well, we've always known that"
24:59 but no... what we have known is... what the components
25:01 of each are... Hmmm...
25:03 ...so, in the book... I have about 15 components
25:05 of communication that people look for
25:07 when they are high communicators...
25:09 and it's easy to tell... like if you're dating...
25:12 and the guy happens to let you see the phone...
25:15 he probably won't... ah... huh...
25:16 but if he happens to let you see the phone...
25:18 look and see... or just... look at the texts
25:20 that he sends you... Hmm... hmmm...
25:22 ...if he sends you texts that is as long as a thesis,
25:25 he's an X Communicator... you'll know that immediately,
25:29 now, you send a long text to a Y... that you think
25:32 requires some explanation or some response...
25:36 very often... you will get a one- or two-word response...
25:39 okay... nothing else... okay... you said all of this...
25:43 I was wondering what we should do...
25:45 or... "k"... just "k"... you know... why you get the "k"
25:48 because they... again... everything...
25:50 their communication is functional
25:51 as everything else... and they're thinking...
25:53 if I drop the "o"...
25:54 the "k" makes all the sense in the world...
25:57 why does she need an extra letter right...
26:00 and that... is what you're dealing with...
26:04 that is the personality that you're dealing with,
26:06 for the Y Communicator compared to the X
26:09 and it's not... I tell people... because I have a lot of Ys
26:11 that come out... I had this guy when I...
26:13 I do presentations every two or three months
26:15 I'm somewhere... doing a presentation or a seminar...
26:18 in a Church or in an Organization,
26:20 and I have these people come up to me afterwards,
26:22 especially the Ys... not the Xs so much...
26:23 but the Ys... one guy came up to me
26:25 and he said "I am a converted Y" and that kind of broke my heart,
26:30 because I said, "I hope that I'm not giving you
26:32 the impression that Ys are "bad", "terrible people"
26:34 I said, "No, no, no...
26:36 nobody is right or wrong in this it's just...
26:40 you are one personality type and I am another...
26:44 we're different... that's what it is...
26:45 it's about differences... not about right and wrong...
26:48 Exactly, you're not saying that Xs are good people
26:50 and Ys aren't... they just have a different perception...
26:53 yeah... different way of meeting each other's needs...
26:56 Yeah... yeah... yeah... so, we just have...
26:59 about one minute... is there anything that you want
27:02 the viewers to know... Well, the book XY Theory
27:05 is available everywhere... and in every format...
27:08 you can get it as an e- book on your Kindle
27:11 you can go to Amazon. com some friends called
27:13 from the U.K. to say that it's in bookstores over there
27:15 so you can get it... everywhere...
27:17 but you can also get it on my website xytheory. com
27:20 or jacobinstitute. com but it's available anywhere
27:24 and anywhere you go... we are also trying to get it
27:26 in our Adventist Book Centers so, I would try there first...
27:31 and see if they've already gotten their shipment...
27:34 Great... thank you so much, thank you so much
27:36 for being with us... and may God bless you
27:39 as you continue to help relationships everywhere...
27:41 Once again, it's time to go, you know, relationships are so
27:45 critical and we just sometimes neglect to really focus
27:49 on the importance of knowing... "Who am I dating...
27:53 or what's going on in this marriage... "
27:56 Thanks for tuning in. Join us next time.
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