Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Jason Bulgin
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000094S
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00:00 Something happened on May 31, 2011,
00:04 that would change the life of today's guest forever. 00:08 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching Urban Report. 00:32 Hello! And welcome to Urban Report. 00:35 My guest today is Jason Bulgin, author of 25 and Counting 00:40 and musical evangelist. 00:41 Welcome to Urban Report Jason. 00:44 Hello, hello. How are you? 00:46 Great, praise the Lord! How are you? 00:48 I'm doing well, thank you... very well. 00:50 Praise the Lord! It's so good to have you with us. 00:53 I'm excited to talk to you today about your story 00:56 'cause you have a very interesting story. 01:01 Let's hear a little bit about your background first of all. 01:04 Tell us where you grew up. 01:06 Well, I grew up in Toronto Canada. I was born in Toronto. 01:09 I spend most of my elementary years - younger years - there. 01:14 It wasn't until it was time to go to college that 01:17 I kind of moved away from Toronto. I went to Windsor for 01:21 two years of college and then I transferred down to Oakwood... 01:25 Oakwood College, Oakwood University. 01:27 Yeah Oakwood! I'm an Oakwoodite too. 01:29 I won't say when but yeah. 01:32 You mean OC, sorry. That's right. 01:34 OU now, right? Yes. OU yeah, for sure. 01:38 So you grew up in Toronto, and you're a PK, aren't you? 01:43 I am, I am. I'm the only boy. I'm a PK. 01:46 I have 2 wonderful sisters, and growing up in a pastor's home 01:51 I mean we went to church every day and I mean we had to 01:56 do everything. So I played the piano, I sang. 01:59 My sister sang; she played the piano. 02:01 We all had to participate in every service, 02:04 and I mean a very active part. And it was good for us 02:07 growing up. Yeah, that's great. You know 02:09 some PK's say that it's really kind of hard because their 02:15 dad is gone a lot and they don't get to really interact 02:18 with him as much as they would have liked to. 02:21 Was that your experience? 02:23 There was a time when I was really I guess resentful 02:27 of my father simply because I felt that 02:31 I guess the church came before me some times 02:36 and I felt that I was put second to a lot of things that 02:40 happened at the church. But it took me a while to get... 02:43 get over that. It took I guess me talking to him and just 02:46 sitting down and expressing myself about how I felt 02:49 and letting him know. Because I mean a lot of times 02:52 they're unaware because this is what they're called to do. 02:55 So when they feel they have this calling they pour 02:57 everything into it. Which is rightfully so, but 03:00 at the same time the family's still there. 03:03 Your wife, your children... and you can't forget or neglect 03:06 them. But it was only through me speaking up and communicating 03:09 that he was able to understand and make a change. 03:12 You know, and that's such an important point 03:14 because a lot of times there might be this hesitation 03:19 to talk to the parent that's not there as much... 03:22 especially a pastor... because there are so many demands 03:26 on a pastor's attention. 03:28 And so a lot of times the family just kind of gets kind of 03:32 set aside a little bit - brushed aside - because of the calling 03:36 as you were talking about. So it's great that you had 03:40 the wherewithal to go to him and say: "Dad, I need to 03:44 talk to you about what's going on here and what I'm needing 03:47 from you. " And it's great that your dad was responsive. 03:51 Yes, that's the key. It made me appreciate him 03:54 even more... the fact that he was responsive and he... 03:57 he took it with open arms. Because I mean he wanted to be 04:00 the best dad, he wants to be the best dad. 04:02 He still wants to be the best father for me 04:03 and he wants that great father-son relationship. 04:06 So even now we're still growing and developing 04:09 the relationship. And it's good to see how... 04:11 how we come together, especially now that I've chosen 04:14 the same path as him somewhat. 04:16 We're both in the ministry so it's good going back and forth 04:20 with him and just throwing things off his brain and him 04:23 giving me that experience that he has. I mean, just the sitting 04:26 down and just talking. Really getting to know him 04:28 and know about his life and what he came through. 04:32 Yeah, and everybody has a journey, right? Definitely. 04:34 Everybody has a journey, and your journey 04:37 you've set forth in this book 25 and Counting. Yes ma'am. 04:43 You have set forth part of your journey in this book. 04:49 Tell us a bit about what happened to you 04:52 on that fateful day in May of 2011. 04:57 Even leading up to that day I was in a place in my life 05:00 where I was kind of questioning where I fit into the body of 05:04 Christ, trying for find my place, my purpose, my use. 05:08 I mean, I just didn't feel like 05:11 I fit in and I didn't feel like I was doing anything meaningful. 05:15 And I was actually just wonder- ing if I even believed in God. 05:19 And that was just a dangerous place for me to be. 05:21 But I had an opportunity to sit down with my pastor: 05:24 Pastor Damian Chandler down at Madison Mission 05:27 at the time, and he just walked me through like just... 05:32 just everything that I had come through to that point 05:35 and just reminded me like God had to remind the Israelites 05:38 of everything He had brought them through 05:40 and just to show me that it wasn't by happenstance, 05:43 it wasn't by chance, that I had come this far. 05:46 So leading up to that point that's where I was then. 05:48 And I had made a decision that I was going to go all in 05:50 and just try... try and push forward, 05:53 try... try and I guess build my devotional life, 05:55 build my prayer life, and just try and just give it 05:58 an all-in chance. Because some- times we say we're all about it 06:01 but we're really not. We're still on the fence 06:03 and we kind of give it half and we're not really sold on it. 06:07 So it was I guess May 06:10 the end of my schooling, was my last year at Oakwood. 06:14 And I graduated. Graduation got pushed back 06:19 because we had tornadoes. So it was the end of the month. 06:21 So I decided to go home instead of making everyone 06:24 change their graduation plans to come to me. 06:26 Jason, let's stop for a second and go back and unpack 06:31 where you were when you went to talk to 06:35 your pastor. Because so many of our young people get 06:38 disillusioned. And I'm sure it's easy, too, for a PK to get 06:43 disillusioned because again you're kind of left out there 06:46 sometimes, and so where were you when you went 06:51 to your pastor and had that talk? 06:55 And what had led you to that point? 06:57 Well this is the crazy thing: I was really involved. 07:00 Like I sang every week; I played every week. 07:04 I was really involved in church but I just didn't feel 07:06 like I fit in. I was just going through the motions. 07:09 And I guess at some point we have to separate 07:14 I guess our parents' experience with our own experience. 07:18 And it has to become real to us. 07:20 So I had to find that place where it became real to me 07:23 and I wasn't just doing it out of routine 07:25 or out of something I already knew. 07:28 So I was basically asking God for an experience 07:32 that would make Him real to me, 07:34 and that's a dangerous thing to ask for. 07:36 Because I mean He has the power to I guess go beyond anything 07:41 we've ever seen. So in actuality I was asking God to... 07:46 I was challenging God. Mmmm. 07:48 Challenging Him... and He showed out. 07:51 He put me through some things but at the same time 07:53 He cradled me throughout the whole time 07:56 and He held me close... knowing that I was still His. 07:59 And He brought me back through this healing process... 08:01 amazing healing process... that broke down so many other walls 08:05 that I had pent up. Yes. Amazing thing. 08:08 God is so amazing. You know we can often fall into that 08:13 vicarious relationship thing where our parents had the 08:18 relationship but we don't really 08:20 and we're going through the motions as you mentioned. 08:23 I think it's a very important place to be 08:26 where you say to God: "I want to know You for myself. 08:30 I want an experience with You myself 08:33 that will make You more real to me 08:36 so that I'm not just going through the motions. 08:38 I'm not just singing all the time or doing or being, 08:42 I want to know You for myself. " 08:45 And that's where you were when you went to see your pastor. 08:49 Yes, yes. So you saw your pastor. 08:53 You talked to him, and he then kind of opened up 08:58 some things for you. Tell us again what he did 09:01 and how He did that to make your experience a bit more vibrant. 09:06 I mean, we sat down... I can still remember the day. 09:09 It was a nice sunny day in Huntsville, Alabama. 09:11 We sat down outside of Panera Bread. 09:13 It's one of his favorite spots. We sat and we talked for hours. 09:16 Just sat in the afternoon just talking for hours. 09:19 And he really just started asking me questions about 09:23 all the other experiences I had. So like in high school 09:26 I had a child out of wedlock and I got kicked out of school. 09:30 And I got back in school and I eventually graduated. 09:33 So things that he allowed me to come over. 09:35 I was... just a number of things. 09:39 But we just walked through each of these experiences 09:41 and he asked me to explain it logically. 09:44 And I couldn't. There was no way for me to explain 09:47 me getting to where I am logically. 09:50 And I'm a logical thinker so I was really upset 09:53 that I couldn't explain it. And it was only the grace of God 09:55 that had brought me thus far. 09:57 So it was just... he was challenging me. 09:59 Just challenging me to think that I could do it on my own. 10:03 "You think you could really do it on your own? 10:04 You think you have the power to do this? 10:06 There's something beyond you; 10:07 there's something bigger than you. 10:08 And there's someone who loves you and has 10:09 a purpose for your life. " 10:11 That's an important point too, Jason, because 10:14 so many of our young people and older people, too, 10:18 are not having a sense of purpose. Not really knowing 10:22 that God's got a plan. On Urban Report 10:26 all the time and on Dare to Dream we talk about 10:29 God's plan for everybody. Everybody has a unique place 10:34 in the plan of God. And so, you know, 10:37 what God has for you to do is different from what He has 10:40 for me to do and from the next person. 10:42 It's all part of this huge mosaic 10:45 and so we talk about purpose. And so that day 10:49 it seems as though when you were talking to your pastor 10:52 you were getting to know more about the purpose 10:56 that God had for you or that there was a purpose 11:00 for your life, correct? 11:02 Correct definitely. He was just knocking at the door - 11:06 just tapping at the door of purpose in my life - 11:08 and I didn't want to open it. I was reluctant to open it 11:12 but as time went on and I got more confident 11:14 and I got more... I saw the love of God in my life 11:17 through just the daily living, it was easier for me to open 11:21 the door. It was easier for me to walk in my calling 11:23 and walk into everything God had for me. 11:26 That's awesome. So what happened 11:29 on that day in May? 11:31 So May 31, 2011, I was driving back from Toronto 11:36 to Huntsville just to get myself together, 11:40 find out what the next move was since I graduated. 11:43 And I left out late at night. 11:45 I like driving at night because there's no traffic. 11:48 It's just real calming and it's just real easy. 11:51 It's an easier drive. So I left at night 11:53 and my parents were kind of reluctant about that. 11:55 But I left anyway. And one thing that was different 11:59 about this trip is that we didn't pray as a family 12:02 before I left. I can't remember what had happened, but we didn't 12:05 say our prayer as a family holding hands at the door 12:08 before I left. So I was on my way; got on the road. 12:11 It was about 11:30 at night and I'm listening to my music. 12:15 I'm just in the zone... in that driving zone. 12:18 Any of you who drive long distance you know you have to 12:21 get into a special zone when you're driving. 12:23 So I was in that zone. I was relaxed... cruise control. 12:26 Listening to the music. Had actually switched over 12:29 to listen to an audio book called The Shack that... 12:31 that Pastor Chandler... he had told me to read this book. 12:34 And the book is basically about a man who has a 12:37 weekend getaway with God. 12:39 And they have a conver... He goes to God asking Him 12:43 about a situation that had happened in his life. 12:45 His daughter had died. And she was kidnapped and murdered. 12:49 And he basically gets a weekend getaway with God 12:52 to ask God all the questions that are on his heart. 12:55 So I was listening to that book and I mean just going through... 12:58 having a mental picture of the book 13:01 and just in a nice zone. And then all of a sudden 13:05 out of nowhere a deer comes in the road. 13:07 And my instinct was to swerve whatever I see in the road. 13:13 But as most of you know you're supposed to hang on tight 13:16 and just drive through that deer... which I didn't do. 13:19 So I ended up swerving, and since I was on cruise control 13:23 and so relaxed, I swerved and I really couldn't get back 13:25 into it, so I went into the ditch. 13:27 And from there I went down into the ditch. Went back up 13:30 and started torpedoing through the sky. 13:33 And I remember spinning... flipping about twice... 13:37 and then blackout. 13:40 So you're in a zone... you're driving. 13:44 Everything is fine and then from nowhere 13:47 this deer comes in front of you. And you are trying to avoid 13:52 the deer and you swerve and you lose control of the car. 13:56 Um-hmm. Lose control, end up in a ditch 13:59 and just thrown from the vehicle. 14:02 How long were you unconscious? Do you know? 14:05 I have no idea. So my car is black... 14:08 So when my car went into the air and hit the ground, 14:12 all my lights go out. So it's a black car 14:15 in the middle of the country. Country road. 14:18 This is a truck route where like trucks drive 14:21 all night, all day... truck, truck, truck. 14:23 So 18-wheelers are passing by. 14:27 Apparently I was... A cop happened to be passing by 14:31 and found me laid out on the concrete... laid out on the 14:33 highway on the opposite side of the highway. 14:35 So... when I... I guess... 14:38 The only time I woke up I woke up in the ambulance 14:41 and I was able to give my family's number - 14:44 my parents' number - and I went back to sleep. 14:46 And the amazing thing about that: God will give you the 14:48 strength to do what you need to do in the moment. 14:51 I mean, sometimes you see people... I remember 14:53 one time at church someone had gotten run over by a car 14:57 in the parking lot at church. 14:58 And I saw a man... like an older man... he lifted a car 15:02 off this man in the moment 15:04 because they needed that strength to save his life. 15:06 And in order to save my life God had to wake me up 15:08 in the midst of all this pain, in the midst of all this... 15:11 this craziness going on... He had to wake me up 15:13 so I could give my parents' number and He put me back 15:15 to rest so I wouldn't feel the pain. 15:17 Wow! God is awesome. 15:20 How far away from home were you 15:24 when you had this accident? 15:26 I was probably about 3 hours away from home. 15:29 About three hours away from home, about 1/2 hour away from 15:32 the Canadian/American border. 15:34 Wow... and so... Another blessing in itself 15:37 that I was on the Canadian side of the border rather than 15:39 the American side. Really? Why? 15:42 Why is that? Healthcare! I mean, if I was 15:45 across the border and I got in this accident 15:48 the hospital bills would have been astronomical. 15:52 But it was a blessing that I had the accident on the Canadian 15:55 side where my healthcare is covered and things of that 15:59 nature. Now we're just on the American side coming over 16:01 into that, but at that point in time it would have been... 16:04 it would have been another head- ache had I been on the American 16:08 side. Wow! Wow! So God in His mercy 16:11 allowed you to be on the Canadian side 16:14 where your healthcare could be offered 16:17 and it was affordable for you. 16:19 It's free there, isn't it? It is. Free. 16:21 So you went through all of this. 16:25 You're in the ambulance. You wake up 16:29 just for a minute to give the number of your parents' home 16:34 and then you go back unconscious again. 16:37 What is your next memory after that? 16:39 My next memory is waking up in the hospital room. 16:43 And I could just hear my family's voices. 16:48 I hear them talking. I heard the voice of the police officer 16:52 telling my parents that he didn't even know 16:55 really why he was in the area. 16:57 He said he wasn't even supposed to be in that area at the time 16:59 but he just happened to be passing by. 17:01 And I heard them say that and he said "It's only God. " 17:05 And I went back to sleep again. 17:08 Wow! So what was your recuperation like? 17:12 Well, first of all, tell us the extent of your injuries. 17:16 So let's start from the head to toe. 17:19 I fractured this side of my face. I fractured bones 17:24 under my eye. I fractured my jaw 17:27 and some bones over here. So I have plates and screws 17:30 lying under my eye, over here, in my chin. 17:33 I lost a tooth. I punctured my lung. 17:37 I fractured two ribs. 17:40 I had a big hematoma on my left leg. 17:44 And then I had glass and just road rash all over my body. 17:50 I remember I had a big gash under my arm, 17:53 on my shoulder, my hands. I remember like a couple weeks 17:57 after my hand was hurting. I didn't know why my hand was 18:00 hurting. Every time I put it in my pocket it was hurting. 18:03 And I went and picked at the spot and there was glass healing 18:06 in my hand. So there was glass everywhere, just shards of glass 18:10 everywhere. Oh my! 18:13 That had to be... To wake up 18:17 and to know that you've been in an accident like that 18:20 and to have those injuries, that has got to be so frightening. 18:24 What was your recuperation like? 18:28 That first day when I actually saw myself 18:31 it was scary at first. It was like: "Oh, my! 18:35 Am I going to be like this forever? " 18:37 'Cause my face what swollen. Like... My face would probably 18:40 fill this Skype screen right now, so it was huge! 18:43 It was huge... so it was nerve- wracking just to look at myself 18:48 and wonder how... if I'm ever going to be the same again. 18:52 If I'm ever going to look the same. 18:54 Am I going to walk with a limp for the rest of my life? 18:56 Am I going to be able to play basketball? 18:58 The things I love: run and just joke around. 19:01 Am I going to be the same person? 19:03 But I took comfort in knowing I was on the right path. 19:07 So a matter of me being on the right path, this was... 19:10 I took it as a confirmation for me, knowing that God... 19:14 that the devil was out to get me. Mmmm. 19:17 The fact that I was going the wrong way and I needed to 19:19 turn from my ways and go back the other way. 19:21 It was confirmation, because a lot of us get mistaken 19:24 that when we make a decision for Christ it gets hard, 19:27 it gets rough, it gets tough... 19:29 and you'll get thrown into the fire. 19:31 So I was getting thrown into the fire, and it was just 19:35 the development of my testimony of how I went through. 19:38 And I took it as a way for me to smile through my storm 19:43 and be a testimony to others and everyone around me 19:46 just to know that you can smile through your storm 19:48 no matter what you're going through. So from day one I was 19:52 smiling, taking pictures, posting them and sending them 19:55 to my friends. Just laughing about the whole situation 19:58 because I had comfort knowing that God was taking care of me 20:01 and I was doing the right thing. 20:03 So you sensed God's presence 20:07 as you were recuperating? Definitely. 20:10 Even the process of it. Like I've never... I've never seen 20:16 someone heal so fast. So like a week after you wouldn't have 20:20 known that I was in such a bad accident the week before. 20:24 Because it would almost look like I was in a schoolyard 20:27 fight. I had a black eye, you know. Just a little swollen 20:30 but it didn't look like all this side of my face 20:33 had been torn off. And it didn't look like... 20:36 I didn't look like what I'd been through. 20:38 So it was just really a blessing for everyone even around me 20:40 to see me healing so fast... healing so quickly. 20:44 So the Lord used this experience 20:47 to not only kind of solidify your relationship with Him 20:53 but also as a testimony for others. To bless others 20:58 in a sense to let them know that God is with you and that 21:01 God will bring you through the darkest times. 21:06 Yes definitely. He'll bring you through the darkest times. 21:09 And the key point that really stood out to me 21:11 was that it was a process. It wasn't that I snapped my fingers 21:15 and I was magically healed. There was a process. 21:18 And I think a lot of times we forget that even in our 21:21 relationship with God it's a process. 21:23 It's a process throughout our whole life. 21:25 We never reach that... we never reach perfection 21:28 but we're always working towards it. We're always 21:30 working towards it. And we sometimes forget 21:32 and we feel that we have to be perfect, we have to be 21:36 just on our P's and Q's all the time. But we fail. 21:39 We fall and it's OK. We just have to know that 21:42 we're continuing to move forward and He's going to 21:44 continue to work with us. 21:45 He's going to continue to chip some things away 21:47 and He's going to continue to just mold us into what He has 21:50 for us. Amen! That is so, so true 21:53 that... the Bible says there is none righteous, not one. 21:58 So it's not... sanctification is a lifetime process. 22:04 All of this journey is a process 22:07 and we are developing our relationship with God 22:11 and learning Him every day. 22:15 You learn something about God and His nature 22:18 and how He deals with people and all of that through how He 22:21 deals with you. And so this is wonderful. 22:25 Now let's talk about what you're doing now. 22:29 Where are you now? What are you doing? 22:31 Well now I am in Cleveland, Ohio. 22:34 I am teaching. I am working as a young adult pastor 22:38 at the SDA church here. I also play at a Pentecostal 22:42 church here. And I'm just diving wholeheartedly into ministry. 22:48 I have my book. I'm working on another book 22:51 as well for young men. It's going to be entitled 22:54 What I Learned From Her. 22:55 And it's going to be basically lessons that young men 22:59 can learn from the women in their lives. 23:01 So all... there's been many women that I've come in contact 23:04 with in my life: my mom, sisters, girlfriends, friends 23:07 that I've come in contact with in my life. 23:09 And there's life lessons about being a man that I learned 23:13 from these women, so I want to make a book about that. 23:16 And help just develop young men and know that... 23:18 that there's a process in your development 23:21 and just know that women play a key role in your development 23:25 and there's things you can learn from each of these situations. 23:27 So I'm working... go ahead. 23:30 No... absolutely. I mean there's so much to be learned 23:33 from the people in your life 23:36 and from your... and you have a sphere of influence 23:40 that you radiate to other people as well. 23:44 So there's something to be gain- ed from everyone in your life. 23:48 Definitely. So our viewers might not know this 23:52 but you are a wonderful singer. You have appeared on 23:56 Magnify Him, and it hasn't aired yet but it's airing soon. 24:01 So you're going to be on our Dare to Dream music program 24:04 Magnify Him. You are an author; you are a speaker. 24:09 How do you fuse all of these gifts into a ministry for God? 24:15 The first thing is just obedience. 24:18 Obedience and just listening to what God asks me to do. 24:22 He's put me in a position where if I... if I trust Him 24:26 He will make everything plain. So it's come to a point 24:30 where I can put it all together because He's put me in 24:34 a position where they all just come together. 24:37 So music, preaching, books, blogs, inspirational coach. 24:42 Everything about communication. I want to be an awesome 24:44 communicator. I just want to be able to share a message 24:47 of love and make it simple, make it plain 24:49 so like a 6-year-old can understand. 24:52 And I believe that if a 6-year-old can't understand 24:55 I'm not doing my job. Because I think everyone 24:58 needs to be able to understand and be able to feed on the 25:01 Word of God and be able to feed on what God has for us 25:03 in human experience and find that purpose in their life. 25:07 And live out that purpose in their life as well. 25:09 And there's nothing better than walking in... we call it 25:13 walking in your divine destiny, finding that purpose. 25:16 There's nothing better than that. 25:18 We have a website for you. We want to put up your website 25:21 so that our viewers can go to the website 25:23 and they can see what you're doing; 25:25 they can hear your music; they can order your book. 25:29 Whatever. But they can kind of take a look at this ministry 25:33 that God has given you that is incredible. 25:36 What do you think? Briefly tell us what do you think is 25:39 going on with your generation now in terms of 25:44 spirituality and where they are spiritually. 25:47 What do you think is going on now? 25:49 Right now I feel that my generation, they lack 3 things. 25:54 And I've been battling with this but it's three things. 25:57 It's a passion, it's persis- tence and its their perspective. 26:01 So the passion is that desire, that fight to do whatever it 26:06 takes to make something happen. 26:08 And there's not many who have that passion. 26:11 You just want it that instant; you want it right now. 26:14 We're not ready to put in the work. 26:16 We're not ready to put in the time. 26:17 We're not ready to just really hone our gifts and develop it 26:20 so when the time is right we can stand before kings 26:23 and queens and just show out for God. 26:26 So that passion and then the persistence. 26:29 That time... just putting in the work. 26:31 A lot of us are just laca- daisical about anything we do. 26:36 We settle for the mediocre. 26:38 We settle for just good and better when God wants the best 26:42 for us. Like I've gotten to the point where I'm not 26:45 settling any more. I'm pushing the limit; 26:47 I'm pushing beyond my fears. 26:49 So fear is me saying I'm scared of something 26:52 is not good enough reason for me not to do it. 26:55 There's going to be times when I'm afraid. 26:57 There's going to be times when I'm scared 26:59 and I feel apprehensive about doing something. 27:02 But because I'm persistent and I'm pushing... 27:05 I'm pushing my passion, I'm pushing towards the mark 27:07 I'm going to do it simply because God hasn't given me 27:10 that spirit of fear. And if He's put it in me, 27:12 if He's placed it in me and I'm walking in His will, 27:16 there's something that I need to do that's going to prepare me 27:18 for something else. So if I back down on what He's giving me 27:21 today, I'm not going to get the blessing He has for me tomorrow. 27:24 Wow! So we have passion and persistence. What's the last P? 27:28 The last P is perspective, 27:30 and that's just changing your viewpoint. 27:32 We often think so negatively of so many things that... 27:35 that we have in the church. But God has given us 27:38 permission to do so many things. I just want to get out there 27:42 and share that with the whole world. 27:44 So they can invite me whenever they want 27:46 and I'll come out and share the whole message. 27:48 Awesome. Well thank you so much for sharing your message with us 27:52 and your inspiration with us. 27:54 Thank you for joining us as well. 27:56 Make sure that you join us next time 'cause you know what? 27:59 It just wouldn't be the same without you. |
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