Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Lance Brown
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000097S
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00:01 This is Part 2... so stay tuned to meet a man
00:04 who was caught up in the Music Industry 00:06 as well as Corporate America 00:08 and walked away from God for 15 years... 00:10 hear the 2nd part of his story of restoration and redemption... 00:15 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching 00:17 Urban Report... 00:39 Hello and welcome to Urban Report... 00:42 My guest today is Lance Brown 00:44 Evangelist, Musician and Businessman... 00:47 Lance, welcome back... to Urban Report. 00:50 Amen... praise God... God be praised... amen... 00:52 You know... your story was so good 00:56 and we've got Part 1 but we ended it 01:00 and I just felt like there was so much more 01:02 that we didn't cover... God be praised... 01:05 Yes, yes... so let's go back a little... 01:07 for those viewers who didn't see Part 1... 01:10 Okay... let's just kind of 01:11 give them a little recap and then we'll move into Part 2 01:15 Okay... so, you grew up as an Adventist 01:20 kind of a "sad-ventist" right? Right "sad-ventist... " 01:25 you were born in Jamaica, and then you came to the States 01:30 to be with your folks, At a very young age... yes... 01:34 Tell us about your journey, from about Age 15 on... 01:38 Age 15 on... coming out of Junior High School 01:42 I started meeting a lot of popular folks 01:44 even before I got into High School... 01:46 I went to Junior High School with William Haley 01:48 the only grandson of author of "Roots" 01:54 Alex Haley and went into Musicana High School 01:57 very popular School in New York City... 02:00 wow, famous... Yes... a lot of good artists 02:02 from different genres of music that taught you to focus 02:05 on whatever else you were going to do... 02:07 Hmmm... and got drawn in from 02:10 Junior High School on... when hip-hop was just starting 02:14 when reggae dance hall became popular 02:17 when all those genres of music 02:19 were independent 02:21 and then... after a while... began to merge 02:22 and I knew both worlds... and got deeply involved 02:27 in the music business. What was your spiritual level 02:32 at Age 15... where were you spiritually? 02:35 I have no idea where I was... 02:37 I mean... my mind wasn't... technically I was going to 02:41 church... in fact I did everything in church... 02:44 I was in Pathfinders, Choir, AY-Adventist Youth, 02:47 Sabbath School... we would go out 02:49 but... nothing stuck... I couldn't wait... 02:53 to get home, take my clothes off... change... 02:58 run down to the park, listen to some hip-hop, 03:01 write some rhymes and get back to the park... 03:04 there was nothing that grounded me 03:07 in the church... even though I was attending each week... 03:11 Isn't it interesting how we can go through the motions 03:15 we can be there physically, but our hearts aren't there 03:19 Absolutely, absolutely... To me, it's a very deep thing 03:23 just kind of walking through, but not being there... 03:27 Absolutely... you know, even at that same time 03:30 and some of these things my parents are actually 03:33 going to hear for the first time, 03:34 well, they knew about the cousins who were involved 03:38 in drug dealing and 03:39 and we had other folks from the neighborhood 03:41 and I would be involved in that as well too... 03:44 you know, we would run drugs up and down the neighborhood 03:48 and that became another source of money 03:50 that got us the power from the individuals in the 03:53 neighborhood who became "famous" and, you know, 03:56 the music, the money, the drug running, the womanizing 03:59 all that from Junior High School Wow... 04:02 and then going into High School where the music... 04:06 if you did it well... can attract... so many people 04:11 and, I was hungry, I was a glut for attention 04:15 and it just sucked me in... That world is so seductive 04:21 that industry is so seductive, 04:23 and you don't even realize 04:25 how you're just getting pulled in... little by little... 04:29 until you're doing... you're beginning to do things 04:32 that you thought you'd never do. 04:34 Absolutely... I never thought I would take a drink 04:37 of alcohol... I never thought 04:39 that I would have children and just walk away from them 04:43 as if they didn't exist, just literally... 04:46 just walked away from them like, 04:47 "Hi, yes, I'm your dad, but I'm here today... I'll play" 04:50 and then... I'm gone... I'm gone... 04:52 I never thought that I would just treat women as if 04:56 you know, they're just a toy, until I get bored 04:59 and then I just throw that toy away 05:00 and then... there's another one I never thought that... 05:03 you know and I literally tried to sit down 05:05 and think... how many times have I done... 05:08 and couldn't even remember how much lives 05:11 I possibly just ruined... you know and never thought 05:15 that I'd be playing the devil's message in song... 05:19 Yes... yes... so you got really caught up into 05:23 the whole music lifestyle... Yes... 05:27 because as we said in Part 1, the values begin to get 05:33 shaped by the music... Correct... 05:35 and so your values got shaped by the music 05:39 Yes... Did you get involved 05:41 in the drug world? You know, ah... 05:44 that's another thing, a lot of the excitement 05:48 that TV sets you up 05:51 and plants seeds 05:54 Hmmm... and it looks really cool, 05:56 so, that way, as Sister White says, 05:59 "Once you have one principle working on you... 06:02 it becomes easy to slip something else in... " 06:05 and so, it looked so attractive, to see those things on TV 06:09 that by the time my cousins and folks 06:12 were running drugs up and down, they'd go, 06:13 "Hey, you want to make a trip?" and 06:15 I'd say, "Sure, I'll make a trip... " 06:15 all right... "Go there... and rob this guy, 06:19 and bring the drugs back to us" 06:20 you know, and we go there and we'd find out where the guy 06:25 has his drugs and we rob these drugs 06:26 and it's exciting... we're not thinking... 06:29 "Hold on, I could die... " my parents don't know 06:32 that their little boy is out there doing this... 06:35 How old were you? I was, at that time, about... 06:38 I was in Junior High School... Wow, so you were robbing 06:41 drug dealers... when you were about 15? 06:44 Not at gun point... just find out where they have 06:48 the drugs and go in... steal it and be gone... 06:51 before they can catch you... and then hear 06:53 later on that they're looking for you... 06:55 and you got to hide out... but no one would suspect 06:59 you know... ah... you'll find him in church 07:03 next Sabbath... you know, and, 07:05 still kept good grades, still kept up the facade 07:10 at church... still kept up the facade 07:12 at home... until my father began 07:14 smelling alcohol on me... I couldn't wake up 07:17 on Sabbath mornings, and, you know, 07:19 one thing that God did, to really shake me up 07:22 one time... I'll never forget one morning 07:24 I was lying on the couch in the front room 07:26 and my father came to wake me for Sabbath School... 07:29 and he thought I was sleeping, and I'll never forget, 07:33 he stood by the door and he didn't know what kind 07:36 of person I had become when he smelled all this on me 07:39 and he took his towel and hit me with it 07:41 and stepped back... and I remember waking up 07:44 and saying, "Have I gone that far 07:46 have I gone that far?" 07:49 and it bothered me from that day on until now... 07:52 When he jumped back... you mean, out of fear 07:55 of what your reaction would be? 07:57 Like he doesn't know if I'm high 07:59 or if I'm going to wake up violent 08:01 or if I'm going to hit him or... you know... 08:04 and until he watches this, he'll not know 08:08 that I was awake... and he'll not know 08:12 how God used that... when He was drawing me back 08:15 to say, "Remember when your father attacked... 08:18 what have you become... what have you become?" 08:21 and it was such a hard road... You know, isn't it interesting 08:27 Lance, how we can start out in one place... 08:31 and the enemy just makes you spiral downward 08:35 till you become something that... 08:37 you didn't start out that way, Absolutely... 08:40 but you just kind of keep spiraling down 08:43 that's his plan... just like God has a plan, 08:46 the enemy's plan is to destroy us 08:49 and he does it systematically, You know that... 08:52 that point you made is so powerful... 08:53 I like to think of the analogy of one of the things I do 08:56 is that... God has got me involved in the 08:59 Construction Industry now that helps support the ministry 09:01 and I became a certified Asbestos Inspector... 09:04 and when I got the test, praise God, He gave me 09:07 the only answers on the test thank you Jesus... 09:09 Amen... amen... I learned... asbestos could be 09:13 all around in this room, and killing you... 09:17 but you can't see it... Come on now... 09:20 it's in a microscopic form... Come on... 09:22 and because you decided to place yourself in 09:26 the atmosphere where that thing exists... 09:29 Come on now... you don't know... 09:31 unless you have the light and the magnification 09:35 at a certain amount... in the thousands 09:37 you can't see it... and asbestos... the Greek name 09:41 written for it... means indestructible... 09:44 you can't burn it... and when it goes into you, 09:48 it's not coming out... it's going to do 09:51 it's destructive work... Come on now... 09:52 unless someone knows how to deal with it... 09:54 Come on now... I see where you're going... 09:57 and that was... that's what was happening 09:59 with me... that was... what I was doing 10:02 when I was giving Satan's asbestos to the world... 10:05 that's what's happening right now... 10:07 People say, "Well, I can't see it... " 10:09 you know, and folks say, 10:10 "Well, I haven't seen the results of it... " 10:12 only to find out in that same class... 10:15 you don't see the results of asbestos 10:17 until 30 years later... Wow... 10:20 and now, here I am, looking back at my life, 10:23 seeing the results, the effect it had on my family, 10:27 the effect it had on my children, 10:28 my broken... you know... 3 different mothers... 10:32 3 different children... and trying to try 10:34 to get that time back together... 10:36 30 years later... 10:37 I'm looking back... at the effects 10:39 of what that has done... and 30 years later 10:43 I'm seeing people on the street... 10:44 that I see... "Wow, I could have ministered to that person 10:48 but I dropped them at the party... 10:50 I made that person go from being what they were 10:54 to what they are... so I'm responsible... 10:57 to go back out... and say something 11:00 and do something... " Wow, that is so powerful 11:03 that whole asbestos analogy... 11:07 where you don't see it, but it's working on you, 11:11 it's chipping away at your health, 11:13 it's working on you silently... insidiously... 11:15 Absolutely... that's what sin does... 11:18 big time... and the other analogy 11:20 God gave me was... second-hand smoke... 11:22 Come on... come on... I don't smoke... 11:25 I never smoked... but when you ever go to the 11:28 club... I don't want to bring back 11:29 your flashback... if you ever go to the club... 11:31 Well, it's true... it would be a flashback 11:35 because I went back in those days... 11:36 Now... no backslide... but I remember coming home 11:39 from the club one day, and I went like this... 11:41 I went... smell... 11:42 and I smelled all that stench of smoke that was in my clothes 11:47 I sent it out to... I couldn't believe 11:50 that is what I was sucking in all night... 11:52 I wasn't smoking... but all the people around me were... 11:56 but I didn't sense it because I was too caught up 11:59 in this... that I didn't focus on that... 12:02 and until I changed the atmospheres... 12:04 I couldn't smell it... and so... we do that with sin 12:10 folks in the church say, "Oh, I'll never watch that stuff 12:13 I'll never do the stuff I watch on TV... " 12:16 but, guess what? you're taking in 12:17 instead of second-hand smoke 12:19 you're taking in second-hand sin... 12:21 Hmmm... and it's more subtle because 12:23 Jesus says, "Even by your thoughts... you can be lost... " 12:26 so, what you're saying when you're watching that, 12:29 listening to that music... you're saying... 12:31 "You know what... I know this is wrong... 12:33 but... I know God doesn't want 12:35 me to do it... but... " 12:36 that's the very thing that Eve did... 12:40 when Satan lied to her... 12:41 "But you know... God said this... " 12:42 here's what God said... 12:45 but here's what I'm seeing... " 12:46 Hmmm... hmmm... and that's what drew me out 12:50 that's what make a lot of people 12:51 do what I said to Jill when we were talking outside 12:55 when she said to me... "Lance, I was in Church 12:57 but I wasn't connected... " and I said, 12:59 "So, you were basically lost in Church... " 13:00 That's right... I do a talk... actually a sermon 13:03 called, "Lost in the House" Hmmm... 13:05 because it's based on Luke 15... "The Lost Coin... " 13:08 you can be lost in the house of God... 13:11 Absolutely... and just not even know 13:13 that you're lost... 13:15 Absolutely... and that that's when Satan is 13:17 as I go around to speak... I try not to preach more 13:21 than just talk... and let God say 13:24 what He has to say... and I find that 13:28 people forget that the greatest sins... 13:31 are not the ones you can see... 13:34 Hmmm... because Satan is not most evil 13:36 when he makes you know that you're doing something 13:39 evil... Hmmm... 13:40 the Bible says... "He was the most subtle... " 13:44 that little subtle sin... is what will make you go 13:47 "That's just a little... " but it takes just 13:51 that little sin... 13:53 to make you lose eternity... 13:55 now, I can understand if you lost eternity because 13:58 you've got a billion dollars and a billion women, 14:00 and a billion guys... a billion houses... 14:02 I can understand that... but you lost eternity 14:04 because God said, "Say 'hello' to that person 14:07 you haven't spoken to in 20 years... " 14:08 just say hello... " and you wouldn't... 14:10 in Church... Hmmm... 14:14 that... Is really deep... 14:17 it's really deep... so, here you were... 14:21 you were doing all these things 14:23 and in Part 1 we talked about how God 14:26 did His interceptions... right? 14:29 Yes... and this last one 14:32 that we talked about... in Part 1... 14:35 God actually basically came to you... 14:38 a presence came to you... 14:39 tell us... you were like just living that whole Corporate life 14:44 at this point... you were living in the 14:46 Corporate world right... and successful... 14:48 Yes... what was it that happened 14:52 that drew you to God... take us there... 14:55 A testimony... Hmmm... 14:57 it wasn't a pastor... it wasn't a Bible Study... 15:02 it was a testimony... Revelation 12:11 came to life 15:07 Hmmm... I can't relate to 15:09 Moses' testimony... 15:11 I haven't been around sheep... 15:13 I can read it, I can understand it, 15:16 but it doesn't click with me... Yes... yeah... 15:19 You know and so, I understand now why Jesus 15:22 says... "they overcame by their testimonies... " 15:25 but unless we have a testimony that we can overcome by 15:28 then... we're not going to overcome... 15:30 and so, I was reading the testimony of this 15:33 gentleman by the name of Hyrum W. Smith... 15:37 a very successful CEO... 15:39 traveling the world and teaching entire companies 15:44 "Time Management" meeting millionaires and 15:48 billionaires... and this man... opens up his book and says, 15:51 "Everything you will read in this book 15:53 can also be found in the Bible" and I go... "The Bible...!" 15:57 I thought... "I've been a Seventh-day Adventist 15:59 I've read the Bible fast... there's no Time Management 16:01 principles in the Bible... and I'm reading through this 16:04 and I would have closed and thrown away the book 16:07 after I saw "God" and "church" in it... 16:09 if I didn't admit to myself, "You know... this is the best 16:14 time management book I've ever read... " 16:17 that's from the Bible? 16:19 It blew my mind... I saw God in a more practical 16:26 daily, "help your life" way, Hmmm... 16:30 that I didn't see before... I saw God not just as 16:34 God the Father... and the God... when we were growing up 16:37 you don't question God, so you don't ask Him questions 16:41 that's how we interpret it as... Hmmm... 16:42 I saw God as... "No" the practical... 16:46 basically... anybody in life... 16:49 is going to teach you some kind of philosophy... 16:51 "Oh, here's how you live your life... " 16:52 "No, here's how you live your life... " 16:53 "No, here's how you live your life... " 16:54 and God says, 16:56 "Listen, here is how you do it 16:59 because I'm the one who created it... 17:00 I wrote every law 17:02 that runs everything... and business-wise... 17:05 you want to become successful, follow the successful laws... 17:10 of business... you want to have the best health 17:13 follow successful laws of health... " 17:15 and so, it made perfect sense and so I said, 17:19 "Hold on... the Bible is really just to guide us to say... 17:22 'here's is the God who made these laws... if there is a law 17:26 and a way to connect with Him'" which there is... 17:28 "I should be able to follow it... 17:30 experimental knowledge... " Sister White says... 17:32 "and get the results... " and so said... so done... 17:37 when I read that testimony, and I tried it for myself... 17:42 so said... so done... Isn't it interesting how 17:47 you were able to see God in a whole new way... 17:52 He's the same God... He didn't change... 17:55 but your perception of Him changed... 17:58 Absolutely... absolutely... it made no sense 18:01 for me to argue with people and say, 18:02 "Well, your God is this God... and my God is that God... " 18:05 you know, as I said to someone recently... 18:08 we could be arguing about the same thing 18:10 but just from different perspectives... 18:12 and I now learned when I go out to share Christ 18:16 with someone that the same reason I was pushed away, 18:19 is because someone was taking 18:21 how they saw God and saying... 18:24 "Here... here's how to need to see God as... " 18:26 Hmmm... and I ran away from that... 18:28 so, I learned from Paul... and Paul says, 18:30 "No, I became all things to all men... " 18:33 Hmmm... What do you need? 18:34 You need a father because you have no 18:37 father figure... let me introduce God the Father 18:39 to you... Hmmm... 18:40 You know... what do you need? you messed up on your finances? 18:44 let me show you God the provider who wrote the financial laws... 18:47 I need to understand... who you are... 18:50 and what your need is... so, I could provide 18:53 the right God... for you... Wow... isn't that what Jesus did 18:57 Absolutely... I mean... he met people 19:00 where they were... Absolutely... 19:01 met them... at their point of need... 19:04 and then provided... that need for them. 19:06 Absolutely... and that's what you're saying 19:09 you're doing... Amen... amen... 19:11 and God... and even... I think of John 4... 19:13 Jesus and the woman at the well... 19:15 and I understand the role that the Church 19:18 not just the Pastor... the Church has to play 19:22 I never understood it 19:25 until I read the last part 19:26 of that account with the woman at the well... 19:28 I'll quiz you... Okay... 19:30 Who was it that finally made the woman decide 19:34 to give her life to Jesus? 19:36 Well, who was it... 19:40 I think it was Jesus... I thought so too... 19:43 it seems like He was... because He was the one that 19:46 showed her everything... Absolutely... 19:48 she said, "here... meet a man that showed me everything... " 19:51 Absolutely... but then when I read the last part of that 19:54 you know what it says? What? 19:55 It says, "and when she saw... the disciples and that they 20:01 said to her... " you know, they didn't call 20:03 her names and when she saw how the disciples treated her, 20:07 the Bible says, "then... 20:09 she left her water and ran... " 20:11 Hmmm... What that showed me was 20:13 is that... you know... anybody could say... 20:15 "I'm Jesus... " that's what Jesus basically did, 20:17 but, I don't know if you're a shepherd 20:21 unless you show me some sheep, Okay... okay... 20:25 I don't know if you're a life changer... 20:27 unless you show me some changed lives... 20:28 Right... right... 20:30 Jesus was having this conversation with her about 20:32 Him being the Messiah and the One who would do 20:34 all these things and He showed her evidence 20:35 He showed her He can prophecy and speak 20:37 what she didn't think He can see... 20:39 but then, when she also saw the love that 20:43 His disciples who should have basically condemned her 20:45 because she was a woman, condemned her because 20:47 she was a Samaritan... condemned her for 20:49 a whole bunch of different reasons that they pushed down 20:52 in that particular Society... when she saw that they didn't 20:55 and didn't even say a word... Hmmm... 20:58 she said, "this has got to be... because if He can change 21:02 them to treat me like... " then... then she ran... 21:04 Hmmm... and that's why I realized 21:07 that the Church... Jesus says, 21:09 "You are my witnesses... without you, I have no evidence 21:13 that I am who I say I am... so, you know what? 21:15 "love each other... so when the world sees 21:17 the type of love that you all have 21:18 they'll know I am who I say... I am... " 21:20 You know, Brother Lance, 21:22 that's so true because so many times 21:24 you can go and visit a church, and you... 21:29 you remember the song, "Where is the love?" 21:33 I remember that song... "Where is the love here?" 21:35 like... "where is the warmth... " 21:37 how can I go into a Church and nobody says, 21:40 "well are you taken care of for lunch 21:43 or whatever... " 21:44 you can go into... and I mean... I might be guilty 21:47 of that too because... you know... 21:49 you can just get caught up in your own rhythm... 21:52 but Jesus wants us to come out of that... 21:54 and to show love because by this shall all men know... 21:57 that you are my disciples... 21:59 God had me test that one day... Did you? 22:00 I was in a State... I'm not going to say what State 22:02 it is because we all are in a small circle... 22:05 Yeah, yeah... and I was doing a project for a 22:07 client and didn't intend to stay in the State 22:09 longer than Thursday... and Friday came and I said, 22:12 "I'm not going to do all that Sabbath traveling... " 22:15 and so, I didn't have anything but my work clothes 22:17 and so, I went to Church, that Sabbath 22:21 in my work clothes... and my work boots... 22:23 because I didn't want to stay and God says, 22:26 "See what you learn... " and I watched how I was treated, 22:30 Wow... I watched who said... 22:32 because you had stains on your clothes and stuff like that? 22:34 slightly stained but it was my casual work clothes 22:37 it wasn't like my deep-stained work clothes 22:38 so it was like the khakis and just a polo top and 22:43 you know... okay... 22:44 but I had my work boots on... and you see the difference 22:48 in how you're treated... and it should not be that 22:52 you are judged and classified and put even in a seat category 22:57 based on how you look in God's Church... 23:00 it shouldn't have to happen, That's right... you know... 23:02 That's right... That's Biblical too... 23:04 Absolutely... You know, we're not supposed to 23:07 give the best seats to the most noble or the richest 23:11 or the ones with the most status... 23:13 Exactly... exactly... so, yeah... that's really, 23:17 really true... okay, so, how did you go from 23:22 when God manifested himself to you to... 23:26 in your room... that time... when you were estranged from Him 23:31 to being in ministry... tell us a little bit about 23:34 the ministry that you are in now... 23:36 Making the transition... it became as easy as 23:41 sharing good food that you just can't hold to yourself... 23:45 Hmmm... hmmm... I finally got something tangible 23:48 for myself... not my grandmother's... 23:50 not my father's... 23:51 not even Hyrum Smith 23:52 who wrote the book who inspired me... 23:54 I got something for myself where God made Himself 23:58 evident... as Jesus says... with many infallible proofs... 24:01 I got so much evidence after a while... 24:03 I said, "That's it God... what do you need me to do?" 24:06 Wow... and he said, "Just share... " 24:08 you don't have to go to theological seminary 24:12 you don't have to go get your doctorate 24:15 in all these things and... just share your testimony 24:18 people say... you're wrong about anything 24:21 else except your life testimony... 24:23 and I started sharing that, and sharing it in the work place 24:29 I started having Bible Studies in the work place and 24:31 it became so good... more people started coming 24:34 and then I started having cottage meetings 24:35 at the house... because God blessed me with the 24:38 house and what used to be a party house 24:39 and now it became a Bible Study house... 24:41 Amen... and folks... 24:43 it felt so good for someone to look back and say, 24:48 "Remember when we came here for Bible Study to your house 24:51 and you wrote our name on the list... 24:53 we got baptized today... can we go back and 24:56 check our name off? Wow... 24:59 Tears... tears... To know that God is now 25:03 using you to build His Kingdom instead of destroying it... 25:08 Amen... you know, the whole music thing 25:10 that was designed by Satan to destroy His Kingdom... 25:13 Absolutely... to destroy God's Kingdom... 25:16 God... has placed you in a position 25:18 to build His Kingdom... tell us about 25:21 Seek and Save Ministries... what is that? 25:23 Well, Seek and Save Ministries is a ministry that takes 25:27 regular, everyday lay people, folks who've been there 25:30 folks who are not going to judge folks by 25:34 where they are... and goes out basically 25:37 looking for themselves... I got out saying, 25:39 "You know what... when I was out there... 25:41 someone had to find me... what would it have taken 25:44 what would they have needed to say... 25:47 to draw me back in 15 years ago? Hmmm... 25:49 10 years ago... and what approach do they need 25:52 to take... and so, I started the 25:54 one-person ministry and until God begins to add 25:58 more people who... you have to be really specific 26:01 about who you select to join with you... 26:05 in doing something... because when you're 26:08 ministering to folks, you're getting into people's 26:11 personal lives and people will even confess sins 26:13 Yes... and, you know, and so 26:15 you have to be really careful, as Paul says, 26:17 you have to also be sure that you yourself 26:18 don't get caught up... like as sometimes happen 26:21 can happen... and so, I made the transition 26:24 I said, "All right God, if you want me to keep this 26:28 Corporate job and do the 9 to 5... 26:30 so be it... but if you want to lead me... 26:34 then, provide a business... provide something I could do 26:37 and let me go... and God said, 26:40 "Okay, give your boss 2 months' notice" 26:45 and I said... He said, "Lance, remember one 26:48 day you said to me... 'Jesus, if you can walk on water 26:51 you said, we can do better things... 26:52 can't you make me walk on air?'" 26:54 I didn't make a business plan, 26:55 didn't do anything... God says, "If you believe, 26:58 I'll do this... go tell your boss he has 2 months... " 27:00 and I walked into Pete's office and said, 27:02 "Pete, I have 2 months... " and then God gave me the 27:05 testimony... Pete looked at me and said, 27:07 "Lance, I knew we couldn't keep you... " 27:08 he says, "I saw your face light up every time you told us 27:14 how you went on in your community... " 27:15 and so, Seek and Save Ministries was launched... 27:18 and God gave me some 27:20 business ideas to help... pay some bills, 27:22 it's not where it needs to be yet but it's... 27:25 you know, and I was invited 27:27 to places that... to Africa, and back to Jamaica, 27:31 and places... I've been doing a couple of things in New York 27:34 and I'm going back to Upstate New York as soon as 27:37 I get back... and then over to Brooklyn 27:39 and God has just been so good... 27:42 God shows you that He will use you 27:44 if you're just available to be used... 27:47 Absolutely... Thank you so much 27:49 for making yourself available to come here... 27:52 and to share your wonderful story and testimony 27:54 with us... May God bless you 27:56 as you continue to serve Him... God be with you... 27:58 and thank you for joining us... 28:00 Join us next time... because 28:02 it just wouldn't be the same without you... |
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