Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Dr. Magna Parks
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000102S
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00:00 My guest today has not only counseled those
00:03 with adversity but by God's grace 00:05 she has overcome it herself... 00:07 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching 00:10 Urban Report... 00:32 Hello and welcome to Urban Report... 00:35 My guest today is Dr. Magna Parks 00:37 Psychologist and woman with her own interesting story 00:41 of victory in Jesus... 00:43 Welcome to Urban Report Dr. Parks... 00:46 Hi Yvonne, good to be here... I'm so happy you're here. 00:49 I'm going to call you Magna... That's just fine... 00:50 Magna, you are such an accomplished person 00:58 so humble... and you love the Lord... 01:01 and you have... 01:03 you have your own journey... 01:06 everybody has a testimony... Yes... 01:08 you have your own journey... share some of that 01:11 journey with us... Well, Yvonne, you know 01:15 it's interesting how you hear people's stories 01:18 and until you have your own story... 01:21 their stories don't become very real to you... 01:23 That's so true... and I think God allowed me 01:25 to have my own story... I don't even know 01:27 where to start... but... I went through school, 01:32 got my graduate degree taught at Oakwood, 01:34 private practice... but during the latter years 01:37 of that time... even before getting into 01:40 private practice... I always start out with this 01:43 story... I was in engaged to someone 01:44 and a month before... I broke the wedding off 01:47 and this was the big wedding of Oakwood 01:49 everybody was all excited, 01:52 so, I left Oakwood 01:54 because I didn't want to hear all the questions 01:58 you know... moved to Atlanta and a few months 02:01 after I moved to Atlanta... my brother who was a physician 02:04 he was missing... he went missing... 02:06 Oh... you know, we didn't know 02:07 where he was... what happened... 02:09 and for 3 years... he went missing... 02:12 and I met another person, another gentleman 02:16 we got married... a week before 02:18 we were to marry... they found my brother dead... 02:20 Oh... and my father called me 02:23 and told me... because he was thinking 02:25 I'd be able to handle it, you know... 02:26 my family members were like... 02:27 "Why did you call her at that time... " 02:28 and the whole week I was on Ambien... to sleep... 02:31 a psychiatrist friend... I couldn't sleep 02:33 so I asked her to give me prescription meds to sleep 02:35 and I slept that whole week and the next day 02:38 after the wedding... we told my mother 02:40 because we didn't tell her before the wedding... 02:42 we told the family gathering, and we told my mother, 02:44 and the week after I got married... 02:46 my brother was funeralized... 02:47 Oh... so what a... that's just the beginning... 02:51 Just an up and down... Yes... 02:55 because you're on a emotional high 02:56 with the wedding and the stress too... 02:58 Yes... of getting ready for a wedding 03:01 but wait... let's go back to Oakwood 03:03 because that's a lot of pressure too... 03:05 Yes... it was... when you have... 03:07 a similar thing happened to me, so I can relate... 03:10 so, you're getting ready to get married... 03:14 and it breaks off... Yes... 03:16 and everybody had known about the impending wedding... 03:19 Hmmm... hmmm... and then it breaks off... 03:21 and then, it's like... "Okay, so what happened?" 03:23 so you got out of there... I did... 03:24 so that you wouldn't have to deal with that... 03:26 I didn't want to deal with the questions... 03:27 Yes... yes... yes... and so then... 03:30 you get to Atlanta... and tell us again what happened. 03:35 About two months after I got to Atlanta, 03:37 we get a call... my brother went missing... 03:40 we didn't know... we got Private Investigators 03:42 they couldn't find him... Two months...? 03:44 Two months after breaking off the wedding... 03:45 so you had that stress to deal with, 03:48 Yes... your missing brother... 03:50 Now, there are only two of you? There were four of us... 03:53 Okay... so, you know, I have my sister 03:55 and my brother left... actually there are others 03:56 because my dad had a few kids 03:58 before he married my mom... 04:00 but those were the ones that we all grew up together... 04:02 Okay... so... 04:04 So your brother went missing, and then a week 04:07 before your wedding, 04:08 Three years later, he was found dead... 04:10 so all 3 years... your family is on pins and needles 04:14 That's right... What's it like for 04:16 because there are programs on television 04:18 about missing children, and abductions, 04:21 what's it like... not knowing? 04:22 It's just... you wake up in the middle 04:24 of the night wondering... where could my brother be... 04:27 what will happen... you know, he was a physician 04:29 he was doing in Infertility Specialty 04:32 at the top of his class... I mean... doing so well 04:35 and you just wonder... was he killed... 04:37 did something happen... it's just... 04:39 like I can't even explain it... 04:40 you just live in uncertainty all the time 04:42 wondering... where that person is... 04:44 Yes... So, even though I was sad 04:46 to find out that he had died, it brought some closure... 04:48 Yes... and to this day... 04:50 we're not sure how he really died... 04:51 there are a lot of questions... So, his body was found... 04:55 Yes... Right behind Dodger's Stadium 04:57 in LA... because that's where he lived... 04:58 And you still don't know... 05:02 No, we're not sure... 05:03 there are a lot of theories, but we don't know 05:05 for sure... what happened... Oh... so then... 05:08 so you had the wedding... then you funeralized your brother, 05:12 so then... what happened? Six months later, 05:14 my mom had a stroke, due to the stress 05:17 of losing her first son, and then... 05:21 a year and a half after that... 05:23 I started feeling some tingling in my fingers... 05:27 and my girlfriend had said, "Oh, sometimes when you eat 05:30 too much salt... it causes tingling in your fingers, 05:33 and I didn't take it seriously, then it started to kind of 05:35 go through my whole arm, and one day 05:37 I was baking something and I put it in the oven 05:39 and when I took it out, it just fell and splattered, 05:42 and I called my husband crying, I said, "Al, I just lost, 05:45 you know, I broke this dish" 05:47 and he says, "That's it, we're going to the doctor... " 05:49 so, I had a girlfriend who was a Nurse Practitioner 05:51 she said the quickest way to get testing done 05:53 is to just go to the Emergency Room 05:55 so I went to the Emergency Room, they did all the testing 05:57 and the doctor came back and says, 05:58 "I'm sorry Ms. Parks, you have MS-Multiple Sclerosis 06:01 and I said, "Are you kidding?" he says, 06:04 "No, we've seen all of this stuff in your brain and 06:07 in your spinal cord and... " so... 06:10 So on top of everything else, now you have a diagnosis 06:17 to deal with... through all this... 06:20 are you practicing... Yes... 06:23 you're doing the counseling and all the psychological testing... 06:26 Yes... that's right... testing and all that? 06:28 Yeah... yeah... yeah.. Yes, I'm going through 06:29 all of that... during that time... 06:31 and then you found out that you had MS... 06:33 How did you respond? Initially, I thought, 06:36 "Well, that's it... I'm going to be an invalid 06:39 a disabled person for the rest of my life... 06:41 my husband will have to take care of me, 06:43 I have to... go into... " I mean... my mind just went 06:45 Right... then the Holy Spirit just 06:47 stopped me and said, "You know, 06:48 you don't know if that's the route it's going to go" 06:50 so He just kind of stopped me, 06:51 I went to the Neurologist 06:53 and the Neurologist said, "You need to get on steroids" 06:56 and at that point... I didn't want to do that... 06:57 I'm not saying that everyone should follow this 06:59 but my husband and I decided 07:00 we wanted to do the natural treatment... 07:02 Hmmm... hmmm... so we told the Neurologist 07:03 we're just not going to do the steroids 07:04 and he says, "Well, Magna, you'll never get better. " 07:07 that's what he said to me... we ended up doing "Natural" 07:09 we went to Wildwood Lifestyle Center 07:11 which uses natural ways and two months later 07:14 I could fully use my hand... I had completely 07:17 lost use of this arm... it was like... I was paralyzed 07:20 my husband had to help me comb my hair 07:22 I had to eat with my left hand, 07:24 and I couldn't write, so... 07:26 And it came on you suddenly, Suddenly... yeah... 07:29 it didn't take much time, it just kind of... 07:31 Usually, I've read somewhere or heard in a lecture 07:36 or something... that there's an emotional 07:39 component... something has happened 07:41 Yes... that leads to MS... 07:44 Yes... And look at what was going on 07:48 with you... That's right... 07:49 my mother, my brother, so... Yes... yes... 07:51 they also found out that my Vitamin D levels 07:54 were... not low... but deficient... 07:56 and the doctor showed me there's a relationship 07:59 between that as well... so... that's where I was 08:02 but in 2 months... the Lord... 08:03 and it's been 7 years and I've had no symptoms... 08:06 Praise God... Yes... yes... 08:09 See our... and again... 08:10 you're not saying... this is for everybody 08:12 that "Natural Route" is for everybody 08:14 but for some people it works 08:16 for some people it doesn't... but... 08:18 praise God... it worked for you. Amen... 08:20 and... really... how can it hurt... 08:22 we're not saying... "Stop your meds" or anything... 08:25 That's right... but what we are saying 08:26 that eating right... and following the laws of health 08:29 can help... Right... amen... 08:31 and it helped me... And it helped you... 08:33 praise God... Praise the Lord... 08:35 so... you got through that... 08:36 the Lord brought you through that... 08:38 and then what happened? Two years later... 08:41 my mother was diagnosed with Colon Cancer 08:45 and 6 months later she died... 08:46 So now you've lost your brother, Hmmm... hmmm... 08:49 and your mother... hmmm... hmmm... 08:52 Yeah... and the time in between 08:55 were you near your mother, were you helping her, 08:57 or were you far... did live away from her... 08:59 I was in Georgia... she was in Florida... 09:02 so it was about 7 hours away from each other 09:04 but then they moved... closer to me... 09:06 Uchee Pines was just two hours away... 09:08 they moved in that area, so I was able to see 09:10 her a lot... for those 2 years before she passed... 09:13 Yeah... that's good... And a year after that... 09:17 I lost my husband... Oh, this is... you know, 09:21 as you said before... when you're talking to people 09:26 and you haven't had your own 09:28 hardship and adversity, 09:31 it has a different feel... from when you have been 09:34 through it... Yes... yes... 09:36 just all of these losses back to back... 09:39 What happened with your husband? 09:41 Well, he had something called AV malformation 09:43 which they say is a congenital brain disorder... 09:46 the capillaries and veins are kind of confused or 09:49 twisted or mixed up or something... 09:51 I don't know the exact way to describe it... 09:53 but he was born with that, and people... typically 09:56 the only reason they may find out 09:57 is when they're younger and they could do something about it 10:00 or when they're older and they get rushed 10:02 to the hospital with an aneurysm 10:03 that's what a physician told me 10:04 and that's what happened to him, 10:05 he had some symptoms going on... 3 weeks before 10:08 and then he was rushed to the hospital... had an aneurysm 10:11 and 2 days later... he died... 10:12 49-years-old... Oh... 10:15 what was going through your head, Magna, 10:18 right after he died? 10:20 Why me? Why did God allow this? 10:23 we had started a ministry 2 or 3 years earlier... 10:26 3 years earlier... and during the year that he died 10:29 the ministry really started to take off... 10:31 and I was just saying... "Lord, we were just doing 10:34 all these wonderful things... we had come here 10:36 and done some cooking programs 10:37 I had done some things with "Issues and Answers" 10:39 why now? Why would you take him away now? 10:41 He's a man who loves you... all kinds of questions 10:44 were going through my mind... 10:46 but, one day the Lord said to me... 10:47 "Magna, you're so concerned about your ministry... 10:49 but I'm more concerned about salvation... " 10:51 Hmmm... just as bold as... 10:53 I could just hear the words... and it just... 10:56 we don't understand sometimes 10:59 why things happen as they do, but, I guess the key is... 11:07 and this is what you have found 11:08 because you are a woman of faith... 11:10 that the faith comes in... after you've asked 11:13 the questions or whatever... trusting that God knew 11:17 what had to be done... and knew the best place 11:21 for him to be saved... Yes... amen... 11:23 so, sometimes this life is so short and 11:27 it's so painful though 11:29 we lose that loved one... and it's just so... painful... 11:34 Yes... yeah... So how did you adjust... 11:36 after that... because it was so sudden... 11:38 It was... It wasn't like he was sick... 11:41 he just had the aneurysm and was gone... 11:43 Yes... yes... yes... how did you adjust after that... 11:46 what did you do? You know, one of the biggest 11:48 things that helped me was... I really tightened up 11:52 my walk with the Lord... I spent more time 11:55 in the Word... I asked questions but 11:57 I wanted God to direct me to things that I could read... 12:00 promises that I could hold on to that was the foundation 12:03 of me being able to deal with my husband's death... 12:05 and another piece that the research shows 12:09 when you're dealing with adversity is... social support 12:11 my Church members were there for me... 12:14 my friends were there for me, I didn't stay in the house, 12:15 I didn't want to stay in the house... where we... 12:17 you know... my husband and I had our home together... 12:19 so I stayed with a few friends here... 12:21 I went to St. Croix and stayed with my cousin for 6 weeks, 12:25 and different people just opened their homes to me, 12:27 sometimes I felt like a bag lady... 12:29 because I was going around from home to home 12:30 but it was my way of dealing with this difficulty... 12:33 Yes... so that was really important 12:35 my walk with God and then 12:37 following the laws of health, that really helped me 12:39 because I would regularly get up and walk, 12:42 I made sure that I ate my meals at a regular time, 12:45 I had healthy meals... I tried to get to bed on time 12:47 and I know that those laws of health... 12:49 were very important in helping me work through 12:52 that grieving process... that is so true because 12:55 without that... the depression could have 12:57 overtaken you... That's right... 12:59 the walking stimulates those endorphins... 13:02 and so you're moving around and so you feel 13:04 better even though you're feeling terrible 13:06 but you feel better than you would 13:10 if you didn't do it... even sleep deprivation... 13:13 had you not gotten enough sleep, 13:15 had you been eating improperly... 13:17 all of that... can make you spiral down 13:19 and then the depression is worse... 13:21 That's right... So praise God that you had 13:23 the support... that you got into the Word more 13:27 that is so important... because when we're going 13:31 through things sometimes you don't even want to pray... 13:36 I know... You don't want to read the Word 13:38 you have to make a conscious decision to do it. 13:41 You do... that's right... it can't be based on feelings 13:44 see... that's what gets us in trouble... 13:45 is that... we make decisions and we do things a lot 13:48 based on how we feel... but the healing came 13:51 as I said... even though I feel terrible today, 13:53 in my stomach... you know... you just have this pit 13:55 in your stomach when you're going through things 13:57 in spite of that, I am going to pick up the Bible 13:59 and sometimes... you may not even feel anything 14:01 while you're reading the Bible, but the promises 14:03 are still going into your head and your mind... 14:06 and it's affecting the brain, so, I said, 14:08 "Lord, I don't feel like this, but help me to do this 14:10 even if I don't feel like this, that's what I used to tell 14:13 my people... when I talk to my clients, 14:15 my patients and now I had to put it to practice... 14:18 what I was saying to them... Yes, yes... you had to 14:21 do... you had to follow your own counsel... 14:24 that's right... 14:25 and you saw... how it works... 14:27 Yes... first hand... 14:28 Amen... So, okay, so, you lost your 14:31 husband, your mother, your brother, 14:34 you had the diagnosis of MS... 14:36 what happened with you 14:39 professionally... as you were going through all of this... 14:42 what were you noticing professionally? 14:46 You know what I noticed, believe it or not, 14:48 specially towards the latter part... 14:50 I started to develop more empathy and compassion 14:53 for people in their suffering, 14:55 you know, before I had more 14:57 of the "I'm the doctor role, you come here to help" 15:00 but I felt myself now as I'm talking to people 15:02 I could feel more of what they were going through 15:05 because I had walked and had been walking my own path 15:07 so I definitely developed more compassion 15:10 at times... sometimes... I got a little more involved 15:14 than I should have... Hmmm... kind of over-identified? 15:18 Exactly... so that was going on as well 15:21 but the good part was... that the Lord developed more 15:23 compassion and empathy and more... 15:25 feeling people's sorrow and suffering more... 15:28 Yes... yes... yes... which is so, so important... 15:32 Yes... and that other factor 15:33 which is critical... is that support piece... 15:37 Yes... when your brothers and sisters 15:40 are praying for you, you can almost feel 15:43 that you're being held up by something... 15:45 Yeah... because you're going through 15:47 this dark time and you just you're rocking and reeling... 15:52 Yes... and when you get those prayers 15:54 I mean, that is just such a critical piece... 15:56 if we would just pray for other people 15:59 that are going through it just means so much 16:02 to make such a difference... You know that text, 16:04 "Comfort others wherewith we are comforted" 16:07 that text became real... very real for me... 16:09 Yeah... yes... I understood a little more 16:11 about what the Apostle Paul was saying... 16:13 Yes... yes... Because I had been comforted 16:14 by God... and He gave me more 16:16 where I could comfort other people... 16:18 because of what God had done for me... 16:19 Absolutely... that's such a beautiful thing 16:22 Yes... so, after all of this, 16:25 that now... you reached a place where 16:27 your symptoms had gone away, 16:29 did they return after your husband's death? 16:31 No, thank God, they did not... 16:33 I was fearful that that would happen... 16:36 because stress can sometimes make the MS flare up again 16:40 Yes... but no symptoms 16:41 By God's grace... I attribute it all to Him and His power. 16:45 Amen... amen... and it's natural laws 16:47 that He has given us... Natural... 16:49 just... if we do certain things, we can really prevent 16:53 certain outcomes by the grace of God... 16:55 Yes... yes... So that's great... 16:56 so after all of this, where did your life go... 17:00 after your husband died, and you went through 17:03 the whole grieving period and all that... 17:06 where did your life go after that? 17:09 Well, my ministry picked up, I started traveling more, 17:13 and then the Lord brought a wonderful man 17:15 into my life... Praise the Lord... 17:17 tell us about how that happened. Well, you know, I actually 17:20 had known him... my husband and I... 17:22 he works at Uchee Pines... and I had actually known him 17:26 my husband and I would go down there 17:28 we'd sit and eat with him, I actually... 17:29 this is so funny... I have to tell this funny story 17:31 I actually thought he was such a nice man 17:33 I tried to match-make him with somebody else... 17:35 he actually came to our house one weekend 17:38 and spent the weekend because I wanted him to meet 17:40 someone... that tells you how much 17:42 I thought of him... That's right... 17:44 and 8 years later... I would visit Uchee Pines 17:46 when my dad lived on the campus and we started to interact 17:51 and one thing led to the other and he came into my life 17:56 and now, we're engaged... Oh... look at God... 17:58 Yes... Look at God... He is so loving 18:02 He knows it's not good for us to be alone... 18:04 Yes... and He's got somebody for you 18:06 He does... yes... and that also speaks of... 18:09 I always talk about the "Plan" God's master plan for us... 18:14 Yes... and even though we don't see 18:16 where things are going... He's always got something 18:21 good for us... He does... 18:22 If we would just trust Him, you know... 18:25 Matthew 6 became real important for me 18:28 where it says... "Take, therefore, no thought 18:30 for the morrow... for the morrow shall take thought for itself 18:33 sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof... " 18:35 Yes... and that was a promise 18:36 that kept me... because after my husband died... 18:39 I wondered... "What's going to happen 18:41 to the Ministry... what am I going to do, 18:42 my ministry partner is gone, and I would just have to 18:45 repeat that text... "Don't worry about tomorrow 18:47 Magna, just deal with each day as it comes... " 18:50 Yes... Don't take thought about 18:51 tomorrow... I haven't conquered that completely, 18:54 because even now there are some issue going on 18:56 and I have to remind myself of that... 18:58 but I got good practice when I lost my husband 19:00 in exercising that... And it's a journey... 19:03 it's a process... I mean we have to... 19:05 just kind of stay in the moment.. 19:07 Yes... but sometimes if we go 19:10 to the left... the Lord just brings us right back 19:12 on the right path... He's so faithful... 19:14 And so merciful... He is... 19:16 And look what He did... He brought you someone 19:18 that's involved in health too Isn't that a blessing... 19:21 you know what I mean... I just praise His name... 19:23 I know... I know... I know... this is so great... 19:25 so now, where is your ministry now... 19:27 tell us about your ministry... what is it 19:29 and what are you doing? Okay, it's called 19:31 "Be in Good Health" and when my husband was there 19:34 we had to the physical health piece 19:35 because he went through Uchee Pines Training 19:36 and now... I'm going to be able to add that back again... 19:40 but since he's been gone... I do mostly mental health 19:43 I do a lot of Mental Health Seminars... 19:45 I travel and I educate people because I like Mental Health 19:48 that's focused on Science, the Bible, and inspired writings 19:50 Science is just revealing some wonderful things 19:53 about mental health now... that just goes right along 19:56 the Bible... can I give an example? 19:57 Oh, yes, please... I was going to ask you... 19:58 it's called "Post-traumatic Growth" 20:00 that scientists are now talking about 20:02 and what they're saying is that 20:04 when people go through trauma 20:05 many of them can become better people 20:08 as a result of adversity... and hasn't the Bible 20:10 been telling us that all along? 20:12 Is that not amazing! It's amazing... 20:14 so I do seminars on things like that... 20:17 and I also do one-on-one consultation 20:19 when I'm available either over the phone 20:21 or here and there I might do it face-to-face... 20:23 and so that's basically the bulk of my ministry... 20:25 so you're showing really how Science is actually supporting 20:30 what the Bible says... Amen... 20:32 which is... of course we know that 20:34 we're going to choose the Bible before anything... 20:38 but, it's so interesting that with Science saying 20:41 "Eat more fruits and vegetables" you know what I mean... 20:44 going back to the original plant-based diet... 20:46 it's like all of these things are really 20:50 supporting... the teachings... That's right... 20:52 and I think God's allowing that because God reaches us 20:56 where we are... Yes... 20:57 some people will not hear a minister get up and say 20:59 "When you go through adversity you'll be a better person... " 21:02 you know, "The trying of your faith worketh patience" 21:05 Yes... some people are not there... 21:07 but when Science says, "Post-traumatic Growth" 21:09 and it sounds all professional then... 21:11 their ears start to perk up and they listen then... 21:13 that's a door-opening for you to say... 21:17 "You know what... Science is just finding this 21:18 but thousands of years ago 21:20 God inspired Paul to write it, 21:23 and that kind of opens their ears... 21:24 they want to hear more truth... Absolutely, because, for them, 21:28 "if Science says it's okay, then it must be okay... " 21:33 That's right... Which... okay... 21:35 if that's what you want... exactly... you know.. 21:37 God just looks at us and reaches us where we are 21:40 that's what I think... He does... 21:41 I love Him for that... God is so amazing... 21:44 Yes... I interviewed an author 21:48 as far as I know... he's not a Christian author, 21:51 he wrote a book about how children succeed... 21:55 and he was saying that the... of course, 21:59 Reading, Writing and Arithmetic, all that stuff is critical 22:02 Hmmm... hmmm... but there are other parts of 22:06 success that aren't measured like that... 22:09 and he was saying that character-building 22:13 is something that is... 22:15 is integral... for success... 22:19 There you go... wow... and I thought, 22:20 "Wow, this is what we teach" this is why Christian education 22:25 is so important... Amen... 22:27 because, yes, we're teaching the academics... 22:29 but academics alone are not the key for success... 22:33 Character-building, discipline, the ability to defer 22:38 gratification... all of these things are critical pieces 22:41 and this is Biblical... so, it's like 22:45 Science... again... because the research 22:47 is supporting this... 22:48 Science is supporting what the Bible says... 22:51 Wow, and I just think that you know, so what you're doing 22:54 was showing what Science is saying... 22:57 and showing how... this is what's in the Word, 22:59 this is what's in the Spirit of Prophecy... 23:01 all these things are so important... 23:04 Yes... yes... Where do you see 23:05 God taking your ministry... like where do you want 23:09 it to go... and where is it going... 23:11 where does it feel like it's going 23:13 because we don't know God's going to do... 23:14 That's right... you know what my ideal thing 23:16 would be Yvonne? What? 23:17 to have a place where people could come 23:19 and I can take these principles 23:21 they'd be there for a while and I could take these principles 23:23 and apply... you know... what Science is showing 23:26 what the Bible says, what lifestyle says, 23:28 out in the natural setting, people can just get away 23:31 because you can hear God's voice more 23:32 when you get away from the hustle and bustle 23:34 and so that would be... just the ideal situation for me 23:38 to be able to work with people like that... 23:39 Yes... yes... for several weeks... 23:42 You know... there are some places where... 23:45 and I don't know if you'd want to collaborate 23:49 but there's some places that have been established 23:52 where people are able to invite others to come 23:56 away from the cities... come out... get ministered to... 23:59 health-wise and then you have the emotional piece... 24:02 Yes... which is so important 24:04 because people don't understand how to deal with stress 24:08 and depression... what suggestions do you have 24:11 for depression? Depression, definitely, 24:12 the first thing that comes to my mind 24:14 is the laws of health that we talked about, you know, 24:17 helping people to eat healthy, you know, I've worked with 24:20 people... just by changing their diet... 24:22 they could have been molested, abused or whatever as children 24:25 we talk about that... but when you want to deal with 24:27 the brain... and just by changing the diet 24:29 I've had people say to me, "I feel better than before 24:32 I was depressed," you know, Yes... 24:33 the first thing is to just understand 24:35 how the body works and how the mind 24:37 and the brain and the body 24:39 are related and helping people to understand 24:41 if you could take care of your brain... 24:43 you can deal with a lot of that depression... 24:45 That is... I'm shaking my head 24:47 because that is so important 24:50 if we can take care of the brain and how do we do that? 24:52 we give the brain... the nutrients that it needs... 24:56 to function optimally... Yes... 24:59 if you're putting a lot of junk in your body, 25:02 that's what you're going to get... 25:03 and you're going to be more depressed... 25:05 because the chemical... it's the chemical deal... 25:08 That's right... so the Chemistry is off... 25:11 then your brain is not going to function right... 25:13 Exactly... so, this is good stuff... 25:16 so... one of the things then is... 25:18 changing lifestyle... changing lifestyle... 25:20 and another key thing that I know the enemy 25:22 really tried with me... with all my losses is... 25:24 asking God to help you with your thoughts... 25:26 our thoughts... I remember a Neuropsychologist saying, 25:29 "Our thoughts are killing us... " 25:31 what we think... is killing us... 25:32 you know, if I rolled a chair across your foot, 25:36 what you thought will determine 25:37 how you respond to me... 25:38 if you say to me... "Oh, she didn't see me... 25:40 she probably did it accidentally" 25:43 it won't affect you as much, but if you say, 25:45 "Magna did that on purpose, she knows... she saw my foot" 25:47 that would cause anger, so what you say to yourself 25:50 will determine how you respond to situations... 25:52 That's key too... that's key... you know how, so often, 25:57 people are saying... 25:58 "Why are you looking at me like that?" 26:00 Yes... "Why did you do that?" 26:02 Yes... "Don't look at me like that... " 26:04 I mean... jumping to a place of anger 26:06 when you really don't have to, and that generates 26:09 a whole other physiological response as well... 26:13 It does... so, what you're saying is... 26:15 if you can just change the way you respond to things, 26:21 Yes... and you can use a word 26:23 to do that... Amen... 26:25 to give you the foundation for that... 26:27 Amen... That is so good... 26:28 and it's an ever... it's a process that you continue 26:32 because though I teach this, I still have to teach myself, 26:35 "Watch your thoughts Magna... watch your thoughts... " 26:38 because... once you start going down the path... 26:40 it would get you in trouble depending on what 26:41 you're thinking... For sure, do you know, 26:43 there's a Neuroscientist in Texas, Dr. Caroline Leaf, 26:48 and she said that, "thoughts actually have an 26:50 anatomical representation in the brain... " 26:52 and I think she's talking about neurons... 26:56 but on these neurons are little thorns... 26:59 thorn-type of appendages on the toxic thoughts 27:03 so when we re-visit these... they shoot out toxic chemicals 27:09 into the blood stream... I believe that... 27:11 and so, we're going to be sick, That's right... 27:13 we're going to... all of these things happened 27:15 because we're not thinking 27:18 positively... 27:20 That's right... so what does the Bible say 27:21 about we think... 27:22 "Whatsoever things are true, 27:25 noble, pure... think on these things... " 27:29 That's right... 27:30 Thank you so much for being with us... 27:32 I just love talking to you and I'm so thankful 27:35 for where God has brought you 27:37 and what He's doing in your life and I'm super happy 27:40 for your relationship, may God continue to bless you... 27:43 I want to thank you too... 27:45 for choosing to tune in today and I hope that the information 27:50 that you heard can somehow be used 27:52 to change your life... 27:54 That's the end of our Program for today... 27:57 Thank you so much for tuning in... 27:59 Join us next time... because you know what? 28:01 It just wouldn't be the same... without you... |
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