Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Pr. David Guerrero
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000198A
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00:01 Are you living the abundant life in Christ?
00:02 Well, stay tuned to meet a man 00:04 who wants to share just how to do it. 00:06 My name is Yvonne Lewis 00:08 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:34 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:36 My guest today is David Guerrero, 00:39 Pastor, Counselor and Founder of Rekindle the Flame Ministries. 00:43 Welcome to Urban Report Pastor David... 00:47 Thank you, it's good to be here. 00:48 Oh wow! You have an amazing testimony... 00:52 an amazing journey... God has just brought you 00:55 through so many different things, 00:58 let's talk about your background for a minute 01:00 and let our Viewers know where you're from 01:03 and some of the journey that God has brought you through. 01:05 Well, originally, I'm from Brooklyn, New York. 01:08 Brooklyn... you have to give a shout out to Brooklyn... 01:11 And at the age of about 18 or 19 we moved to Upstate New York. 01:17 My mother, God bless her soul... 01:20 she had a desire to get us out of the city, 01:23 we were going through... 01:25 I was born and raised in in Brooklyn, New York... 01:27 Belfast Iverson... a very poor neighborhood, 01:30 we literally did not know where 01:32 our food was coming from week to week, 01:35 my mother was a single mother, single mom 01:37 and she prayed us to where God would take our family 01:45 and put us in a position 01:47 where we could be raised in a Godly atmosphere. 01:49 So, she was a Christian. 01:51 Yes... 01:52 Throughout your whole life. 01:53 Yes and no... there was a time where... 01:57 when she did leave the Lord... 01:59 but by God's grace, He brought her back. 02:01 Amen... 02:02 And brought us all back to the Lord. 02:04 Amen... amen... so you left Brooklyn? 02:06 Pastor: Yes... Yvonne: Where did you go? 02:07 Pastor: Upstate New York... 02:09 and lived there for about 8 to 10 years 02:14 and then by Divine providence 02:17 the Lord began to tug on my heart 02:19 and I entered the Pastoral Ministry. 02:22 Hmmm... was there a pivotal event 02:26 that made you decide to be a Pastor... 02:28 was there something that happened in your life 02:31 or did you just feel this calling... this urge? 02:34 Well, there were two things that took place in my life, 02:37 early on when I was about 12 or 13... 02:40 and my uncle doesn't remember this event 02:43 and he says, "I don't remember saying that, 02:45 I don't remember coming to my room asking you the question" 02:47 and he came into my room 02:49 and he just peeked his head and he said, 02:53 "David, if the Lord came today, where would you go?" 02:57 And he just left and I asked myself, 02:59 "Why did he ask me that question?" 03:00 Right... right... 03:02 And I... 03:04 looked for a Bible in my home 03:06 and I started to read Matthew 24 03:08 and I began to sense the urgency of Jesus' soon return 03:14 and I gave my life to Christ that night... 03:16 that was one event, 03:19 the second event was later on in life when I was a young adult 03:25 there was a Pastor in Upstate New York, 03:28 his name was Ted Lopez, he approached me one day 03:31 and he asked me if I would 03:33 consider helping him in his District, 03:35 as a lay pastor... my initial response was, "No" 03:39 and I told him that I would help him 03:42 but being a Pastor was something that wasn't really looking to do 03:45 we worked together for a week 03:49 and then during the second week he said, 03:52 "I believe that you're called to the Pastoral Ministry" 03:55 I told him that I'd 03:58 agree with him and he said, "Let's pray for one week 04:02 and see what God tells us" 04:03 after that... the following week we did... 04:06 we were praying each night together 04:08 and I remember it was a Friday night 04:09 he said, "Well, What does the Lord tell you?" 04:11 and I said... he hadn't spoken to me yet to be a Pastor 04:13 and he said, "Well, the Lord is telling me 04:15 you need to go back to School and be a Pastor. " 04:17 So, he began to encourage me to go back to School, 04:20 and so on and so forth and I kept saying, "No... " 04:23 and he said, "Well, let's do this... " 04:25 well, first he asked me to give the reason why 04:27 and I said, "Financially, I just can't afford it" 04:29 and so he said, "Listen, I'm going to take you to AUC... 04:33 and if God opens the door for you to go to School, 04:36 then it's clear that God wants you to be a Pastor. " 04:38 And that was Atlantic Union College. 04:40 Atlantic Union College and so, 04:42 I told him that he was wasting his time 04:46 and so we drove five hours to Atlantic Union College 04:50 and to make a long story short, by the end of that day 04:55 they worked things out so that I was able to go to School 05:01 with all expenses paid and so I began to sense 05:05 that God was calling me into the Pastoral Ministry 05:09 and so I submitted to His will. 05:11 Amen, amen... so once you... once you got there to school, 05:15 you realized that, "Hey, I do have a calling on my life, 05:20 God opened the door for me to go 05:22 so it must be what I'm supposed to do... " 05:26 Yes... 05:27 And then, during the course of those few years 05:30 that you were at AUC, did you find yourself... 05:33 because, when people go to college, sometimes... 05:36 they find themselves drifting from the Lord, 05:38 were you getting closer to the Lord 05:40 because you were feeling called or did you drift a bit? 05:44 I definitely sensed God's presence and His call 05:48 and there was no drifting, there was full speed ahead. 05:51 Hmmm... hmmm... amen... amen... so, you finished college 05:54 and then how did you meet your wife? 05:57 Well, actually, I met my wife... when I went back to school 06:02 I was a... I was a young adult but I was older 06:04 and so God actually called me, I was an Administrator 06:08 for a private health facility and I was already married 06:11 but I did meet my wife in Upstate New York in Ellenville 06:14 and she was visiting her sister, Marsha Shivonas, 06:18 and it was there that we met one Sabbath morning 06:20 and... and initially when I laid my eyes on my wife 06:27 I said... well, I felt God telling me... 06:28 "That's going to be your wife" 06:29 and I approached her, we began to talk 06:33 and things started to take place 06:35 and a year later, we were married. 06:37 Oh, amen, amen, so how long were you a Pastor, 06:41 how long did you... before you started doing counseling 06:46 because I know you do counseling, 06:47 as well as pastoring, so how long did you start... 06:51 how long were you pastoring before you went into counseling? 06:55 It was approximately two years, you know, everything I do... 06:59 I'm very convinced and convicted that God was giving me the tools 07:04 that He wanted me to have so that I could be effective 07:07 in the ministry that He was calling me into 07:10 so very early on in ministry I began... 07:13 to send a call into Chaplaincy, 07:16 and it wasn't something that I was seeking 07:18 but it was something that God did... I'll give you a story. 07:21 When I was in New Haven, New York, 07:23 New Haven, Connecticut... excuse me... 07:25 at a church there... 07:28 there was a lady that I was ministering to 07:32 that wasn't an Adventist... but I was giving Bible Studies to 07:34 and she had cancer and so... 07:37 weekly... I would go to the hospital, 07:39 after she got very sick and as she was dying 07:43 I drove from my house to the hospital 07:45 and I ministered to her 07:47 and the Chaplain that was there came up to me and he asked me, 07:50 "Have you ever thought about getting into Chaplaincy?" 07:52 And I said, "No... " 07:53 and he said, "You would make a good Chaplain" 07:55 and in that experience 07:57 I sensed the Lord trying to do something, 08:01 the lady and her husband did go to church, 08:04 they both were going to church 08:07 and so, I said, "Lord, if you want me to gain these skills, 08:10 you're going to have to make a way" 08:11 and once again, He did make a way 08:13 as I leaned on Him, 08:14 to enter into the Chaplaincy Ministry 08:17 and get four units of CPA 08:18 and become a Board Certified Chaplain. 08:20 Wow! And what was the most challenging thing 08:24 about being a Chaplain for you? 08:26 That's a very good question and I still struggle with it today, 08:30 it was... facing my mortality, facing my mortality... 08:33 Hmmm... how so? 08:35 Well, as a Chaplain, 08:37 oftentimes, you minister to people who are dying... 08:40 and watching them go through that process, 08:43 it had to make me realize that one day, I too would die 08:48 and so I was constantly wrestling with that... 08:51 because being so young back then, I said, 08:54 "I don't want to die now... " 08:55 But God needed to help me to embrace the fact 09:00 that... and He says in John chapter 11 09:03 that he who believes in Him shall never die... 09:05 Hmmm... hmmm... 09:07 And that... there is a resurrection 09:08 and that no matter what takes place in my experience, 09:11 before He comes again, I will live again, 09:14 so that brought me great hope. 09:15 Amen, yes, yes, and as a Chaplain, 09:18 I would imagine that you have to... 09:21 you have to be the bearer of hope 09:24 even in the midst of hopelessness 09:27 that you pray with people, it must be really gratifying 09:30 but also sad... so sad to see people just die 09:34 especially people who haven't accepted the Lord. 09:37 Yes, yes, it is. 09:39 Were you able to bring many people 09:41 to accept the Lord before they died? 09:44 Yes, I can tell you one experience. 09:46 When I first started pastoring in Wisconsin, 09:49 when I first arrived 09:53 to Wisconsin... to be honest... I didn't like it, 09:56 and I said, "Lord, what am I doing here?" 09:58 And I received the call miraculously, 10:01 and I'll just very briefly tell you the story, 10:04 I was in Connecticut and I was praying to the Lord 10:07 and I said, "Lord, I'm ready for a change, 10:09 I'll go wherever you want me to go... " 10:11 and so, about four days later, 10:14 I received a call from a gentleman named Don Corcum 10:17 and he said... he was from Wisconsin 10:19 and he had a position as a Pastor and a Chaplain 10:22 what's interesting is that... 10:24 the day before I had told my wife, 10:25 "You know, I'd like to try being a Pastor and a Chaplain," 10:29 God answered that... that prayer and I received a call 10:32 the things was... was when he told me where it was located 10:36 I said, "Oh my! 10:37 Lord, I know I said 'anywhere' but Wisconsin... " 10:40 and so, we knew God was leading... 10:43 and we arrived there 10:45 and about two weeks after we arrived, 10:48 and I was complaining a little bit, 10:49 I said, "What am I doing here?" 10:50 I received a call from the hospital 10:52 where I was doing Chaplaincy 10:54 and they told me that there was a gentleman there 10:57 that was actively dying 10:59 and that he needed somebody to come right away, 11:01 I did arrive at the hospital, 11:05 knew that I needed to go to the room 11:06 and what happened was... 11:08 there were some other things that were taking place 11:09 that morning and I said, 11:11 "I need to do a couple of things before I visit this man" 11:14 and God kept tugging at my heart... 11:16 and God... the Holy Spirit was telling me, 11:18 "You turn around and you see this gentleman right now" 11:20 so, I went to the gentleman's room 11:23 and we began... and he was sleeping... 11:26 and I just touched him and I called him by his first name, 11:29 and I said, "I understand 11:32 you are looking to meet with a Chaplain" 11:36 he woke up and said, 11:38 "Chaplain, can you do me a favor?" 11:40 and I said, "What's that?" 11:42 He said, "I'm a Seventh-day Adventist 11:46 and I've left the church 11:48 and I need to meet with a Seventh-day Adventist Pastor" 11:51 Wow! 11:53 I just started crying as I held his hand 11:56 and I almost cried now... and I called him by his first name 12:00 and I said, "I am the Pastor 12:02 of the local Seventh-day Adventist Church 12:04 and the Chaplain here at this hospital. " 12:06 Look at God... look at God... 12:09 He knew this man was at his end 12:13 and he wanted to see an Adventist Chaplain 12:16 and Pastor and God... and God was tugging on you, 12:20 "Don't put if off, go there now" 12:23 Wow! so what happened? 12:25 Well, there was silence for a moment as he looked at me 12:30 and he said, "You're the Adventist Pastor?" 12:32 And I said, "Yes... " I said, "I'm a Chaplain-Pastor, 12:34 I'm the Chaplain here, 12:35 I'm the Pastor of the local Seventh-day Adventist Church" 12:38 and he said, "Pastor, I've left the church," 12:42 and then he started to list the things that he had done 12:44 and he said, "You think that God 12:46 would forgive me at this late hour?" 12:48 Hmmm... 12:49 And I assured him that God would and that he just needed 12:52 to call out the name of the Lord, confess his sin 12:55 and that God would save him, and he just lit up, 12:58 and we talked a little bit and then we prayed 13:00 and he just went off to sleep, 13:01 I left the room and I was crying because I said, 13:05 "Lord, this was definitely a divine appointment... 13:09 and Lord, I almost missed this appointment" 13:12 and I even said, "Lord, and I've complaining that 13:14 I'm here in Wisconsin" 13:16 and I said, "God, you know if this is the only reason 13:20 that you brought me here to Wisconsin, 13:22 then praise the Lord... " 13:24 Yes... 13:25 The next day I went to the hospital 13:27 to visit him again and he had passed away. 13:29 So he died... 13:31 In Jesus... he fell asleep in Jesus 13:35 and... and... God sent you there... 13:38 just in time... just in time, you know, 13:42 what's amazing to me is that when we get to the Kingdom, 13:45 you're going to be able to look at that brother and say, 13:48 "What a blessing... we're here together... " 13:50 Yes... 13:52 He'll be able to look at you and say, 13:53 "You got me just in time, praise God... " 13:55 And then we'll give Jesus all the glory and the praise 13:59 for the divine appointments that He places in our lives. 14:02 Absolutely, because it's all... it all goes back to Him. 14:05 Pastor: Amen... Yvonne: It all goes back to Him. 14:07 Pastor: Amen... amen... 14:08 Yvonne: So, tell us about Rekindle the Flame Ministries 14:12 and how you went from pastoring and chaplaincy 14:16 to Rekindle the Flame. 14:17 Sure, in 2005, the Lord began to tug on our hearts, 14:22 once again, by divine providence, 14:24 we began to meet members in our church 14:28 pastors, administrators and Conference Officials 14:32 who were visiting us from time to time 14:35 and God was placing them in our homes 14:37 and we were surprised but not surprised 14:40 because at times they were talking to us 14:43 they were letting us know how they were empty... 14:47 Hmmm... 14:49 They were in church, they were engaging in Ministry, 14:53 they held positions in the church and they were empty, 14:57 we began to discover that their emptiness 15:01 was because church and church positions, 15:04 maybe their own possessions, 15:07 maybe the way they were living life 15:09 became their idol, and so they began... 15:11 so what we began to see is that 15:13 within the context of even the church, 15:16 people were... and I want to be gentle here, 15:19 they were living a lie, in a sense, 15:21 because on the outside, everything looked okay 15:23 but on the inside... things weren't right, 15:25 and so, we began to minister to them, very quietly... 15:28 in our homes and doing some Counseling, 15:31 my wife has a degree in Psychology 15:33 and then in the Seminary I was taking classes on Counseling, 15:37 then I went through a certification process, 15:39 and I became a Board Certified Counselor, 15:42 and the Lord was just once again 15:43 giving me more tools to help people 15:45 and we began to see that through this ministering to others, 15:49 we began to help them to once again connect 15:52 with their first love, Jesus Christ 15:54 and then become... and then experience 15:56 the abundant life and to live that vibrant life in Christ 16:00 and that ministry kept growing and growing and growing 16:03 and then one evening my wife and I were talking 16:05 and we said, "Well, what's a good name for the ministry?" 16:08 and we prayed about it and it was, 16:10 "Rekindle the Flame Ministries" 16:11 people... when they hear that name... 16:13 they think... marriages and we do some of that 16:16 but "Rekindle the flame" for us meant 16:18 rekindling that love... that flame... for Jesus... 16:22 Ah... you know that is such a necessary ministry 16:26 because it's so easy and people don't realize it 16:30 but when you're in ministry, ministry is what you do 16:34 but it also has to be a part of you 16:38 if you're just doing it, it's a job, 16:41 it becomes "just a job" and when it's just a job... 16:46 you lose that flame... 16:47 that flame has to be rekindled right? 16:50 That's right... 16:52 And so, it's interesting to know 16:54 because pastors and people in ministry know... 16:57 they don't really have anybody to talk to 16:59 because they can't talk to people in the church, 17:02 if they talk to other pastors sometimes 17:04 that can, you know, be a problem, 17:06 so, to whom do they go? 17:08 Of course you talk to the Lord, 17:09 but the Lord also speaks through people 17:11 to give you tools to... to... to equip you... 17:15 Yes... 17:17 And so, what a wonderful ministry 17:19 because some people get so caught up 17:21 doing the work of the Lord, 17:23 they forget the Lord of the work, right? 17:25 Yes... 17:26 And so that's what you and your wife felt called to do, 17:29 what is the ministry doing now, what are you doing? 17:33 Okay, we can fast forward and today, 17:36 as of May 31st of this year, we entered into 17:39 Rekindle the Flame Ministries full time... 17:41 after pastoring for almost 18 years 17:44 once again, 17:47 it was my wife that kept feeling... 17:50 I have a wonderful wife, I love my wife dearly... 17:52 Oh, I love that... 17:53 Because she always senses the call first 17:55 and then she says, "David, I can see it... " 17:57 and I say... and I think it's because 17:59 I get comfortable too... 18:01 and I go, "I can't see it... " 18:02 Yvonne: "I don't want to see it... " 18:04 Pastor: "I don't want to see it" 18:06 several years ago, she started saying, 18:09 "David, the Lord is really calling us to do this full time" 18:12 and we were in Steven's Point, Wisconsin, 18:15 I was enjoying pastoring and I still feel that I'm a pastor, 18:21 you still pastor people, you're a shepherd 18:24 and God started to work on me some more 18:26 when my wife told me, 18:27 "We need to sell our home and really just launch out" 18:31 to be honest with you, I had a hard time with it 18:36 because I enjoyed where I lived, 18:37 I was living in a very affluent neighborhood, 18:42 the Lord had placed us there, 18:43 a very nice home, 3,000-square-foot home... 18:46 and the idea of leaving that home 18:49 and going where? I didn't know... 18:51 was very frightening to me and so what I did 18:55 was... I agreed with her but I put the house up for sale 19:00 "By Owner" in a section... 19:03 in the newspaper and on the Web 19:07 where I was hoping that no one would find it. 19:08 Were you trying to set it up to fail... kind of...? 19:11 Yes, but we had people come through 19:15 and then finally, one day, a person came through 19:17 and he said, "This is the house... " 19:19 and he gave me an offer... it was close to the asking price 19:25 and I said, "I need to pray about it" 19:27 my wife gave me that little kick 19:28 and she said, "What do you mean 'you need to pray about it?'" 19:29 I said, "Well, I need to pray about this" 19:31 and I explained to the individual 19:33 the reason why I needed to process this 19:34 because we didn't have a place to go 19:36 and then I began to share with him the expenses 19:39 that it would take if I moved 19:41 and then... on top of that he said, 19:43 "You've got to move in 30 days" 19:44 and so, he came back with another offer 19:48 and he added... because he said, 19:50 "Well, when you look at this... that's 15 more thousand dollars, 19:52 I'll give you 15 more thousand dollars" 19:54 above what he had offered 19:57 and he said, "What do you think now?" 19:59 and I said, "I still need to pray... " 20:01 and my wife kept saying, 20:03 "David, I think the Lord has answered our prayers. " 20:04 He was giving you 15,000 dollars above what you were asking? 20:09 15,000 dollars above what he had offered 20:12 which was close to my asking price. 20:13 Wow! 20:14 And that night I told my family 20:18 that I didn't want to talk about it anymore 20:20 that I needed to pray... 20:21 and so I spent most of that night with the Lord 20:23 and the Lord told me, "You have an idol... " 20:26 I said, "Well, what is that idol?" 20:28 He said, "It's your home, you won't let it go. " 20:31 and I said, "Lord, it's not an idol... " 20:33 like the Lord doesn't know... 20:36 I said, "I just need to know where my family is going to go," 20:38 He said, "David, let it go... 20:40 and let me be in control of where you go" 20:42 and so, I remembered going to sleep with tears in my eyes, 20:48 hearing the Lord tell me, "The just shall live by faith. " 20:51 I got up the next morning and my wife said, 20:53 "In any case, that's it, so what's your decision?" 20:55 I said, "I've calculated things and given... 20:58 what we'll make on the earnings of the house... 21:01 the Lord can provide for us... at least one year, maybe two, 21:05 I said, "We're going to launch out by faith" 21:07 and we sold the house... 21:09 and we sold the house... it was by faith, 21:13 we had nowhere to go, I was almost homeless 21:17 we had nowhere... 21:18 we couldn't find a place to live or anything 21:20 and so, then, for about three months 21:24 we lived in a camping resort in a trailer, for three months. 21:30 We have a picture of that, as well. 21:32 Yes. 21:33 I think we'll ask them to 21:34 put that up in a second so, go ahead... 21:36 And we lived in that trailer for three months. 21:40 That's the trailer isn't it, take a look. 21:42 Yes, that's the trailer, 21:44 we lived in that trailer for three months 21:45 and God brought us to an experience in that trailer 21:49 where we learned to get along even better, 21:52 our prayer life was just radically changed, 21:55 we were just praying and asking God to... pleading with God... 21:58 to help us to... please help us to find a place 22:02 and then... and I was searching for a home 22:05 almost... just about every day and then my wife... 22:09 I love my wife... she's... 22:10 she is so spiritually in tune with God, 22:14 she said, "Dave, you know what the problem is? 22:16 You're looking but you're not praying... " 22:18 And I said, "Honey, I'm looking, I'm praying while I'm looking" 22:22 I said, "We've got to find a house... " 22:24 She said, "David, why don't you step back 22:26 and let's pray for a while 22:28 and let us allow God to find the place" 22:32 and so, I did that... and lo and behold... 22:38 I did find a home located on Craig's List, 22:42 the Lord led me to look on Craig's List 22:46 we... I made the call... 22:49 and the gentleman gave us the description of the property 22:54 and my wife said, "How many people have given us 22:58 a lovely description of their property... " 23:00 And then you go and see it and it's a dive, right? 23:03 Yes, and we arrived there that afternoon 23:06 and we drove up the long driveway... 23:10 about 200 to 300 yards and we saw the home 23:13 and my wife said, "This is the house... " 23:16 And... to make a long story short... 23:20 we made an offer... 23:21 that gentleman, he accepted the offer, 23:24 and then once again, 23:25 the Lord brought us... He brought us to this trial 23:28 because it wasn't easy getting that home. 23:30 Things seemed to be progressing with the sale of the home... 23:37 we had two... three incidences... 23:40 where the devil tried to stop it, 23:42 the first incident was the first bank 23:45 which was my own personal bank, 23:46 told me that the banking laws had changed... 23:48 and that I couldn't buy that particular home, 23:51 that they could not sell it to me... and they told me this 23:53 one week before closing. 23:55 Ohhh... 23:57 So, I went to another bank, 23:58 they said, "We could do this, not a problem... " 24:01 they pushed the closing date another 30 days 24:04 now the owner is getting a little restless, 24:07 he's like, "Will this gentleman really get a loan?" 24:09 And one week before the closing, the bank calls me and says, 24:17 "Guess what? Banking laws have changed 24:20 and you need 16,000 dollars. " 24:23 Yvonne: One week... 24:25 Pastor: I had one week before the closing. 24:28 Yvonne: One week before closing you need 16,000 dollars. 24:33 Pastor: And... by that time in our walk with the Lord 24:37 and our experience, we naturally and quickly 24:42 got on our knees and prayed, 24:43 my wife said, "We need to talk to the Lord about this. " 24:45 We prayed... got up off our knees and said, 24:49 "God is going to have to provide we only have one week... 24:52 Friday is the closing... " 24:53 the next day I received a phone call 24:56 from an individual... who... 24:58 I hadn't spoken to in a long time... we had not spoken, 25:02 and they asked me how things were going 25:04 and how things were going for our ministry, 25:06 they had heard that we were looking at a piece of property, 25:08 I shared with them that 25:10 we had looked at this piece of property, 25:12 that we were supposed to have closed 25:13 but something had happened with the Bank, 25:14 now, I didn't want to tell him the details 25:16 because I said, "God has answered this prayer" 25:17 they said to me, "Tell me what it is... " 25:22 I wrestled with that and they said, 25:24 "Listen, God has impressed me, tell me... " 25:26 I told him what had taken place and they said to me, 25:31 "Where can I meet you to write the check?" 25:34 And in 24 hours the Lord raised 16,000 dollars, 25:40 but that's not the end of the story. 25:42 Come on... come on... oh man! we are running out of time, 25:45 tell us, tell us, what is it? 25:47 Okay, Thursday night I received a call from the owner 25:50 telling me the Title Company had made a mistake, 25:53 we looked at it together and indeed they made a mistake, 25:55 he said, "You owe me two more thousand dollars" 25:57 I said, "I don't have 2,000 dollars" 25:58 I said, "Can we adjust the price?" He said, "No... " 26:00 he said, "I'm not even sure that you can close, 26:03 you call me if you can get the 2,000 dollars. " 26:05 We got on our knees again and then we prayed 26:07 the Lord impressed me to look at our e-mail from our website 26:14 I looked... it said, 26:15 "Congratulations, such and such has just donated 2,000 dollars" 26:17 so my wife and I knew that the Lord... He was leading... 26:20 He was placing us, He was going to place us 26:22 on that 22 acre piece of property, 26:24 God is amazing. 26:26 So, praise God... so now, 26:29 you went from that little trailer 26:32 to a 22 acre piece of property. 26:34 Yes. 26:36 You just can't fail when you obey God. 26:39 You can't fail and look at what God did, 26:42 God is just incredible, He showed you... 26:44 He was calling you 26:46 from this step to this step to this step 26:48 and He'll do that for you, you know that God will... 26:53 God... if He's calling you to do something, 26:56 He's going to equip you to do it. 26:58 Pastor: He's able. 26:59 Yvonne: He's able, now, your ministry is not just 27:02 for people in ministry... you're ministry is for lay people, 27:06 anybody who wants to get to know God better. 27:08 Pastor: Anybody that is looking to live the abundant life. 27:11 Yes and how would you say, 27:13 what's the key... what's the key to that? 27:15 Pastor: Living the abundant life 27:16 is a life of prayer and a life of faith 27:19 and we have to act on what God tells us to do 27:22 and He will provide for us 27:24 and He will lead us to live that abundant life. 27:26 Yvonne: Amen... thank you so much 27:28 for being with us, what a blessing. 27:30 Pastor: Thank you and God bless you. 27:31 Yvonne: What a blessing. Pastor: Yes, I've been blessed. 27:32 Yvonne: May God continue to bless you 27:34 in all that you're doing for Him. 27:35 And may God continue to bless you too, 27:38 it's so important that you understand 27:41 that there is a calling on your life as well, 27:44 everybody has an assignment, 27:46 God has an assignment for you 27:48 and all you've to do is pray and ask Him 27:52 and then be prepared to step out in faith. 27:54 Pastor: Amen. 27:55 Yvonne: Well, we've reached the end of another Program, 27:57 I can't believe it. 27:58 Join us next time because you know what? 28:00 It just wouldn't be the same... without you. |
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