Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Eric Kelly
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000216A
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00:01 How does one take Jesus into the workplace?
00:04 Where can a Christian find the tools 00:06 to know how to win at work? 00:08 Well, stay tuned to meet a man 00:10 who can teach you all this and more. 00:13 My name is Yvonne Lewis 00:14 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:41 Hello, and welcome to Urban Report. 00:43 My guest today is Eric Kelly 00:46 and I had the privilege of sitting on the set 00:49 with Eric on the Working the Dream set, 00:51 which is one of the Dare to Dream's 00:53 newest programs. 00:55 You are gonna love it. 00:56 Take a look at this little interview. 01:02 I am so excited 01:04 because I'm sitting on the set of Dare to Dream's 01:08 new God in the Workplace program, 01:11 it's called "Working the Dream," 01:13 and the host of that program is Eric Kelly 01:15 and he is with me right now. 01:17 Thank you, glad to be here. 01:19 Eric, Working the Dream is... 01:23 to me it is one of the best programs 01:26 that we have on Dare to Dream, 01:27 I can't wait for our viewers to see it. 01:29 Awesome. 01:30 Because it's got all of these different elements in it 01:34 and it's got comedy, it's got reality, you know, 01:40 we look at different things and we'll talk about 01:42 what we're looking at on the program. 01:43 But it's got all these different elements in it. 01:46 Letting our viewers know that 01:48 we are not to compartmentalize God. 01:51 That God is to go with us into the workplace. 01:54 Absolutely. 01:56 'Cause He is with us at church, right? And school. 01:57 But not in the work place. 01:59 How did this program come to be? 02:03 I know that I brought you an idea about us 02:06 doing a program, 02:07 but how did this program with the scripts and all that. 02:11 How did it come to be? 02:12 A couple of things happened. 02:14 I have a personal passion 02:15 and most of this is out of my pain. 02:16 I've a personal passion for sharing with people, 02:19 "How do you survive at work?" 02:21 And having figured it out, you can't do without God. 02:24 True. 02:25 Later on after you get beat up you say, "Okay, and I'm ready." 02:27 That's right. 02:29 Started to kind of put some ideas together. 02:33 There's a young gentleman in our church 02:36 named Brian Montgomery, he's a playwright. 02:38 We bounce ideas off of each other. 02:40 In fact, I like hanging with the younger people. 02:43 Okay. 02:44 No offence to those of us that have been around since 02:45 Eisenhower. 02:47 Hey, watch it. 02:48 But I love the energy and creativity. 02:51 In fact, if you ever want to see a team work, 02:53 get the experience of the folks who had been here 02:56 with some of the creative know-how technology 02:58 of the younger folks. 03:00 Man, if we really put that together, 03:01 do you know what kind of ministries that we can have, 03:03 and the people that we can actually touch. 03:06 So we begin to work on something's 03:08 and most of the stories 03:10 come out of a kind of a personal pain. 03:13 I'm the son of a pastor. I was raised very, very well. 03:17 Went to a good Christian college, 03:20 I was taught all the right things. 03:22 But I didn't have the spiritual connection here, 03:26 but I went to church. 03:27 Hmm. 03:29 I was a good kid so I go to church. 03:30 That's a good contrast, you know... 03:32 Yes. 03:33 Because you can go to church and you could just, you know, 03:36 you go in devil and you come out a devil, right? 03:38 Absolutely. 03:39 Oh, in fact, you know, people give going to church 03:43 a bit more credit than it should 03:45 and as well kind of a corny saying 03:47 I used sometimes that, 03:48 "Sitting in a church doesn't make you 03:50 any more of a Christian 03:51 than sitting in the garage 03:52 makes you a Lamborghini." 03:54 Hmm. 03:55 Because this is not the place, 03:56 it's what you doing in the place. 03:58 Now I still go to the church. 04:00 There's nothing's wrong with that. 04:01 Why? Nobody is saying don't go to church. 04:03 No, no, I still go to church, but there's a realness there. 04:05 Now when I go, I hang out with other people 04:07 who are kind of real about the spirituality. 04:09 We don't always agree on everything. 04:11 But we do believe in Jesus Christ. 04:13 Believe in God almighty. 04:15 And that brings us together 04:16 and from now on we're brothers and sisters 04:18 and it is great. 04:20 But prior to that happening, 04:23 I'm just kind of out here on my own. 04:24 How did you go from being a PK 04:27 and PKs are in church every Sabbath? 04:30 You know, you went from being a PK 04:33 to going out to coming back 04:36 and saying, you know, now it's a different... 04:38 Now it's God. Yeah. 04:39 I think what happens often when you're in church so much, 04:43 you get desensitized to what's really going on there. 04:47 You learn some of the organizational woes. 04:50 And trust me, whether you're at church or at business, 04:52 any operation that has more than two people 04:55 is a hopeless bureaucracy, 04:56 so if you hang out wherever you gonna get, 04:59 you know, some of the negatives. 05:01 Actually, I went to work 05:03 and I was blessed to have educated parents 05:05 and so I figured 05:07 I could pretty much figure out anything. 05:09 And I went to work 05:10 and all these people were there and I said, 05:12 "I'm smarter than this one, that one. 05:13 Oh, I'm gonna be the president of this thing in a week. 05:16 I don't know, they need to get my office ready." 05:18 I'm just hired in now. 05:19 Right, right. 05:21 Kid is 20, he's trying to figure things out. 05:22 And there's a set of unwritten rules 05:26 that they don't train you about. 05:28 Nobody tells you about these things in school. 05:30 Such as? 05:32 Don't drive the car better than your bosses, 05:36 if your boss has any ego issues. 05:38 Now let me draw the scenario. 05:39 You are young kid, you're coming in, 05:42 you got extra cash, first of all, 05:43 you don't have any kids, you're not married, 05:45 you just, it's just you, your apartment, 05:47 you have extra spendable cash to blow. 05:51 So you get this sports car, boss comes in, 05:54 he's wearing his twisted serious looker suit. 05:56 He's already got five kids, 05:58 his check is stretched to the max, 05:59 he got his Station Amager with rust rolling on it. 06:02 And you pull up in your sports car. 06:04 Oh, that's not gonna work. 06:06 That day I had a bad day. 06:07 Now nobody writes that down. Right. 06:10 But there are smart people watching this. 06:11 They go, "Well, we know that." Right. 06:13 So there are subtle things there 06:15 than I do executive coaching now, I'm mentoring. 06:18 There are subtle things there that you don't know going in. 06:21 And you think because you're smart 06:23 and you went to school, that you have a... 06:24 you have no clue what's about to happen. 06:29 So when you got to your first job, 06:34 what was your spiritual condition then? 06:36 Oh, I was so sad. 06:38 I went and got a cute little sports car, I'm single, 06:41 they're gorgeous women everywhere 06:43 I said, "God has been good." 06:44 I knew I was blessed, I had a job, a car 06:47 and oh, we're about to have a good time 06:49 and what happens is my belief is that 06:51 Satan lets you be okay for a little bit, 06:56 where you think this is how life is going to be. 07:00 This is great. Yeah. 07:02 I had no spiritual connection. 07:03 I did not wake up in the morning 07:05 being connected, 07:06 but I could still go to church and play the part. 07:09 Oh, so you were still going to church? 07:11 I was still going to church. 07:13 But you kind of lost your connection. 07:15 Oh, absolutely. 07:16 There's a couple of pieces that I've seen 07:19 people talk about being lost in the church. 07:22 Oh, yes. 07:23 Going to church, it's not the building, 07:26 it's what's my condition 07:27 when I'm coming into the building, 07:28 so I went to church and I can do the church talk, 07:30 how are you, my sister? 07:31 Isn't God good? 07:33 Happy Sabbath. 07:34 I'm thinking about the next party I'm going to go... 07:36 In fact, as soon as I leave here, 07:37 I'm about to go get in some foolishness, 07:38 so I wasn't really... 07:40 no, I wasn't convicted at all to get closer to God, 07:44 I just played the game. 07:45 What happened? 07:47 I went to work and one of the first things 07:50 that I ran into was a sense of things aren't going to be fair. 07:56 So I walked in now trust me, I did some dumb things, 08:00 believe it or not, I had an afro, 08:03 I had an afro the size of this room. 08:06 And I've never been a tiny, tiny person, 08:09 so the biggest afro, big guy coming in football. 08:15 I went into a very conservative room, 08:18 very conservative company, had a jumpsuit 08:21 and I had my little medallion 08:23 with the little black fist right there, 08:25 and I'm pretty sure 08:26 I scared the mess out of everybody in that room. 08:30 And if they had known me they would say, 08:32 oh, this guy is the cream puff. 08:33 But I mean what they saw 08:35 was a six foot plus big guy with a giant afro. 08:40 What do you do? 08:41 And when people respond out of fear, 08:44 they do some pretty, pretty wild things. 08:46 I wasn't mean, I was always looking for fun and the party, 08:49 but I got lost and as I decided I am going to move up, 08:53 and I saw what it took to move up, 08:56 I started imitating those people and I said, 08:58 "I'm better than this one, I'm smarter." 09:00 And what I didn't but I wasn't ready for 09:03 is there is an invisible pecking order 09:05 in most organizations. 09:07 Okay, unpack that a little bit? Okay. 09:09 There are seven people in this room you walk in, 09:12 if we're competing for something 09:14 regardless as to your skill and ability, 09:17 these people have time in line ahead of you. 09:21 So you may look at them and say, 09:24 "I'm better than them." 09:26 And you may be, but that's irrelevant 09:28 because they're going to be rewarded 09:30 based on that pecking order, 09:31 and that's not just pure ability, 09:33 it's also their time in the relationship 09:35 with the people that are making the decisions. 09:37 And none of that's in school, nobody ever tells you that. 09:40 You see this is another one of those unwritten rules. 09:43 Absolutely. Absolutely. 09:45 And I was I was pretty much done. 09:47 Then I ran into some just basic blatant unfair things 09:52 that were said and done to me based on how I looked. 09:55 Well, I'm not going to be able to change the color of my skin, 09:57 I can cut my afro down and scare you a little less, 10:00 but I am who I am. 10:02 And instead of responding by going to the father, 10:06 I went sideways, I said, 10:07 "Man, I gotta find some relief out of this thing." 10:10 So I got into a little substances 10:12 that made you feel better on your way home. 10:13 Okay. 10:14 And I said, "Oh, heck with those people." 10:16 And that's a slow gradual slide 10:21 toward away from anything 10:24 that is closely resembling going to God. 10:27 I went to my stash to feel better 10:31 rather than, "God, please make my heart feel better. 10:33 Please give me peace while I'm being persecuted, please..." 10:36 I didn't do any of that, I went my own way. 10:38 And that's why I went down for a while. 10:40 Satan doesn't destroy you instantly. 10:43 He takes his time. 10:45 That's so true, he's a torturer, you know, 10:48 he wants to do it overtime and it's kind of like 10:51 the frog this in the boiling water, right? 10:53 That frog story, you know, 10:55 he just turn this ire gradually, 10:58 the fire up gradually, 11:00 and the frog don't even realize it 11:03 before you know he's boiled and that's what Satan does. 11:05 Satan does. 11:06 He takes his time and destroys, that's his job, 11:10 his job is to destroy. 11:12 Absolutely, but he can only get you 11:14 if you've let go of God's hand. 11:15 That's right. He cannot take you out. 11:17 That's right. So I hit rock bottom and... 11:21 Did the substances take hold of you? 11:24 Oh, I was absolutely, absolutely, 11:25 it's demonic and with them there's you lose hope, 11:30 you lose any belief that it can get better 11:33 and you also lose your belief 11:35 in the fact that God can help you. 11:39 And that's all Satan wants is your faith... 11:40 That's right. That God can actually help you. 11:43 So a turning point was, I remember I was in a situation 11:47 where I was getting help 11:48 and I was at the bottom of life. 11:49 I have so destroyed my life and I called my pop, 11:52 who I loved dearly. 11:54 I said, Dad, I told him exactly where I was 11:57 and it's interesting, I didn't understand 11:59 what condemnation meant 12:00 and there is no condemnation in those 12:02 that are trusting in God to save, 12:04 and I didn't know what that meant, 12:05 then I was out there. 12:07 So I called Pop, I said, "Dad, here's where I'm at." 12:09 I told him the absolute everything that was going on. 12:12 You know, the first thing he said back to me 12:14 blew me away he said, "I love you." 12:18 Here's the pastor he could've said, 12:20 "We trained you better than that, young man." 12:22 He said, "I love you," and he said, "God loves you." 12:27 And the third thing I didn't get two years later 12:29 he said, "Oh, you're no worse than anybody else." 12:33 I said, "I'm striving out, I'm no worse than anybody else 12:35 based on what I'm looking at." 12:37 But I didn't understand that 12:38 everybody is faced with the condition of sin. 12:40 That's right. 12:42 And some of our addictions are out front. 12:43 That's right. 12:45 You know, lot of my good holy people 12:47 their addictions are... 12:49 they've hidden it a little bit better than my perhaps. 12:50 Little covet. 12:53 Absolutely. 12:54 And it was after that I wanted to come back, I said, 12:56 "I don't know who God is yet really, 12:58 but I want to know who his God is." 13:01 And that was the beginning of the comeback. 13:03 Wow! So your dad just loved you, he just loved you back. 13:07 Through everything. Yes, yes. 13:09 No condemnation ever, in fact, if you ever talked to him. 13:12 I love your dad. No matter what. 13:13 We need to let you know who his dad is, 13:16 it's T. Marshall Kelly, the amazing singer, 13:19 speaker and the amazing man of God. 13:22 I mean, you can just sense 13:24 that he has such a relationship. 13:27 Real, it's not fake, it's not... 13:29 he just seems so I love your dad. 13:32 So authentic. 13:33 I'm his kid, I've been with him for all those years, 13:36 never once yelled, 13:38 never once said a bad word, never ever. 13:40 A couple times I was glad he left the room 13:42 where he didn't kill me, 13:44 but I'm still here, thank you Jesus, thanks dad. 13:47 Yes, yes, amen. 13:48 But it's so interesting that you went from spiraling down 13:53 to coming to your senses 13:56 and then look where God has brought you today. 14:00 I will tell you. 14:01 My career came up, it came up after that and it would plateau 14:05 and then jump up and plateau and then jump up. 14:09 Eventually, I became vice president 14:11 of a multimillion dollar corporation. 14:15 Most of the time I'm director, senior director, you know, 14:19 junior vice president and God has just blessed. 14:21 I mean there are times I would sit in an office and wonder, 14:24 how did I get here? 14:27 But since I know how I got there, it wasn't me. 14:31 So I can't use the word I, 14:33 I would say He put me in this room. 14:34 Yes. 14:36 So that I can bless somebody else. 14:37 Yes. 14:38 And there had been so many lessons 14:40 that have happened even since then, 14:42 that I realize everyday it's gonna be a new adventure, 14:45 I don't know what's going to happen, 14:46 but at the end of it I absolutely know 14:48 God is going to take care of me. 14:50 That's tremendous, that's tremendous. 14:52 Why do you think we need a program 14:54 like Working the Dream? 14:56 People go to work and if there's ever a time 15:00 or a point where sometimes I think we're increasingly, 15:04 becoming increasingly vulnerable, it's at work. 15:07 Right now in our society, work is everything. 15:12 People give up family duties to take care of their work. 15:16 They find a way to rationalize not having relationships 15:20 with their loved ones in their life due to work. 15:22 But I've got to go to work, I've got to make money. 15:24 We're all out there spending more, buying more, 15:28 we're so driven by consumerism and materialism 15:31 that work seems to be the only place 15:34 that we can justify our existence, 15:37 why we do what we do, 15:39 and I think Satan just capitalized on that. 15:41 So if you're coming to work, 15:43 he knows all the problems you have, 15:44 he sends me who is full of dark side to wait on you, 15:48 and you come in and say, "Good morning." 15:50 And he goes, "Boy, I think 15:51 I can get here through this guy today." 15:54 And I work your last nerve and then you lose faith. 15:59 And that's all he wanted in the first place 16:00 was your faith. 16:01 Mission accomplished. Absolutely. 16:03 Wow. So co-workers they design... 16:04 the ones that are under his power, 16:06 they're designed to take your faith. 16:09 That's really deep. 16:11 Now that is really deep, 16:12 just like there are people in every congregation 16:15 that can work you nerves. 16:16 Yes. 16:18 There are people at the workplace 16:20 that can work in us. 16:21 Satan's got his people everywhere, 16:23 but God's got people too. 16:24 That's right. 16:25 I've been blessed to work under some tremendous 16:27 Christian executives. 16:28 So somebody wants to paint all the excerpts with a brush, 16:31 not even. 16:32 I worked for CEO's, they were so Christian. 16:34 I'm not saying just, you know, 16:36 we go to church the only thing wrong, 16:37 I mean Christian men, men of compassion, 16:39 men that lead, 16:41 men that if there's a layoff they feel it in their spirit, 16:44 in other words they don't... 16:46 they're not callous about it 16:47 and I've been very blessed to work with some of those 16:49 and I've had a couple of the other side too. 16:51 I know... 16:53 and you reflect that in the program, you know, 16:57 we have a little clip from the program 17:00 that we want to show. 17:04 On Working the Dream, it's... 17:05 we want to give you some funny, some funny experiences 17:10 but yet we want to give you information, 17:13 and that's what you're gonna get, 17:15 take a look at this clip. 17:20 Has my 4 o'clock arrived yet? 17:25 All ready. 17:26 Oh, they told me to come in here, 17:27 you must be the Mr. Martin, they've been telling me about, 17:29 man, oh man, this looks like a good day for me. 17:33 Jonas, Jonas Martin and you are...? 17:36 Grant, but everybody call me G stacks, 17:38 you can call me whatever you want, man, 17:40 'cause you're the man with the job 17:41 that's gonna make me happy, I feel good today. 17:44 Yeah, my brother. 17:46 Tell me a little about yourself? 17:47 Man, okay, I tell you what, I'm the slam dunk champion, 17:49 the chess champion, the checker champion, 17:51 I moved to protestant neighborhood, 17:52 I got the highest score on Call of Duty, 17:54 what else you want to know, my brother? 17:55 All right, let's get that. 17:58 Why did you apply for the position 18:00 that we have here today? 18:01 Why? Why? 18:02 Look I need some money, the G notes, the C notes, 18:06 I need the paycheck that's why I'm here, brother. 18:08 I've got pockets but ain't nothing in it. 18:11 Couple of things, I'm looking at your resume and by the way, 18:16 could you remove those sunglasses, please? 18:18 Oh, man my bad, my bad. 18:20 Man, it was sunny outside today. 18:22 Man, the doctor told me I got to protect these eyes 18:25 is what I'm saying, so I had to wear these things, 18:28 but I think they'll stay on my head, don't worry about it, 18:29 I got it together. 18:31 By the way, on your way over to the interview, 18:32 you didn't run into any traffic jams or anything, did you? 18:35 I got to apologize, but you see, 18:36 I set my clock for 3. 18:38 Well, what happened when I woke up, 18:40 I found out the battery, 18:42 the batteries are dumped in and the dog, 18:44 where the cat chased the dog, took down a long, 18:46 plug down the hall that was tied to his collar, collar, 18:49 you know, and the neighbor was supposed to be my backup alarm, 18:51 but they fell asleep too. 18:53 All right, all right. 18:54 We just had to get through this interview. 18:57 Now the position that we were talking about 19:01 is that of a junior analyst. 19:04 And actually your work experience is not too bad, 19:09 it's pretty good. 19:11 You got four colleges, six different majors. 19:15 Just a hint, Mr. Grant, when you're applying for a job, 19:19 you don't need to list every college you went to 19:21 and everything you studied, 19:22 just the last college you attended 19:24 and the last course of study that you graduated from. 19:28 See the bottom line was, see, I didn't know which position 19:31 was gonna give me the most money, no, you know, 19:33 bang for the buck, 19:34 so I just had studied the whole thing, 19:36 be well rounded, that's why I came, 19:37 I got it all the degrees. 19:40 Now I see also that you, you studied theology. 19:45 Now pastors as a rule don't make a lot of money 19:48 what was your, what was your thinking? 19:50 First of all, I don't live like a pastor do, 19:52 but man, you watch TV, man? 19:54 Them pastors be making some big dollar bills, yo. 19:57 Selling snake oil, prayer cloths, 20:01 splinters from the tree of life and all that stuff. 20:03 So if I can't make it in the real world, 20:05 I'm gonna make some money as the pastor, 20:06 that's what I'm trying to say. 20:07 I understand, I understand. Don't you worry about it. 20:10 What makes you think you're a good fit 20:12 for this particular position? 20:13 Man, I got the experience, I've got the education, 20:16 plus I bring some swagger, you know, 20:18 nobody in this company so far that I've seen got swagger 20:21 and this company need some swagger, 20:23 that's what G stack bring to the table. 20:26 Sadly, there's no particular position 20:28 that requires swagger. 20:32 So it's going to be a little tough for us 20:34 to kind of place you, 20:36 because your skill set is a little, a little different. 20:39 Yo, man, how long it's going take, man. 20:41 I got seven, eight and a half minutes you've been talking, 20:45 trying to fit me in, 20:46 but I parked in a ten-minute parking slot, man, 20:49 and in a minute and a half, I'm gonna tell her. 20:50 How's it going to take, man? 20:52 Well, actually our interview is really quite finished, 20:54 we're pretty much done here 20:56 and I want to thank you for coming in. 20:58 Okay, now why don't we... 21:00 I got 30 seconds more, while I'm leaving though 21:01 don't forget this man, 21:03 I got a G stack got what you need, 21:05 what this company need 21:07 and the best decision you can make, 21:08 sorry about the glasses, is to fit me into this office, 21:11 you know what I'm saying, you gonna need what I got 21:13 and you got what I need. 21:14 I'm out, my brother, 21:15 don't forget me, don't forget me, call me. 21:22 You know, those scenes are really, 21:25 I mean to me they are so funny, Pastor John Lomacang, 21:30 Pastor CA Murray, they opted to be in the program 21:33 and they were just and John Ramirez, 21:36 they were just really good, 21:38 but what we show you is how not to do certain things, 21:41 how not to interview 21:43 and also the correct way to interview, 21:44 so while it's entertaining, it's also informative. 21:48 Absolutely. 21:49 And that's what you wanted to accomplish, is it not? 21:51 I wanted people to enjoy it, 21:53 but I wanted them to have information 21:54 because of having worked with HR departments 21:58 and people that are making the decisions on jobs. 22:01 I have seen so many things, 22:03 I've seen why resumes get rejected. 22:07 I've seen why people lose it in their interviews. 22:10 For instance, people that send a three or four page resume, 22:14 you might as well put it in the trash. 22:16 Really? 22:17 They're never gonna read it. 22:19 It's just too much. Too long. 22:20 How long should it be? 22:22 A page. 22:23 Page and a half at best, so if... 22:27 let's say you do walk on water 22:28 and let's say you can fly without your cape, 22:31 just put down the highlights and keep it short, 22:35 because it's too long and the people in HR 22:38 that are going through hundreds of resumes, 22:40 a five pager is just, 22:41 ah, it's too much, they throw it in the trash. 22:43 Right. 22:44 It's overwhelming, if you have a stack of papers 22:46 the last thing you want to do is just sit there and read. 22:48 Absolutely. 22:50 So you want to just kind of go through it. 22:52 That's exactly I want to come through it. 22:53 You had an interesting experience in your life 22:56 that really kind of brought you to your senses, what happened? 23:01 A couple of things happened and I've shared with you that 23:03 the career would go up and then plateau, go up and plateau, 23:07 so I am very comfortable 23:09 that God is growing me and developing me. 23:12 And I don't know the answer yet and I don't care. 23:14 You know, one day I get to heaven as tree of life, 23:16 I'm good with that. Yes. 23:18 I'm good, but a couple of things happened 23:20 and I think I shared with you. 23:22 Our companies merged 23:24 and when you're on a merger situation, 23:26 you only need half the people there. 23:28 So I was without, so there I was without a job 23:32 and I put some money away, so I wasn't terribly upset 23:34 and I said, "Okay, God is always taking care of me, 23:37 my entire life and I'm good." 23:39 And a couple of months went by, I said, "Okay, God, you know, 23:43 we need some going." 23:45 Couple of more months went by. 23:47 So after about six or eight months, 23:49 God and I started have some big conversations, 23:52 I said, "God, I need you to come through for me." 23:54 Now let me give you my personality a little bit. 23:58 Where I grew up in the city, 24:01 one of the favorite phrases I had was, 24:03 I don't care what you did to me, 24:04 I ain't no punk, 24:06 you can beat me down, if you beat me up, 24:08 I want to try to get off the ground 24:10 to find a brick or something, 24:11 if you're bigger than me, you're stronger. 24:12 So I would always say, you know, I ain't no punk, 24:14 whenever I can take it, I can do anything. 24:15 So fear is not a motivator for me, 24:18 it doesn't really 24:19 and I remember kind of saying that 24:21 over and over again and then one day, 24:24 I was totally broken down, 24:26 it was about nine to ten months without a job. 24:29 And I don't care how much of money you've saved up, 24:31 it gets a little scary right about then. 24:34 So I remember I curled up on my family room rug. 24:37 And somewhere this God impressed told my spirit, 24:41 I can almost hear God say, "So are you a punk?" 24:45 And I heard myself say, "Yes". 24:50 And I think what he was doing was look, 24:53 you've been running around thinking that you're strong. 24:57 There's nothing has happened to you in your life 24:59 because of your strength. 25:02 Now here's the kicker on that one. 25:04 Within two weeks of that happening 25:08 I was consulting on a big project 25:11 in Stavanger, Norway. 25:14 God went from here to here in seconds. 25:19 You just needed to be broken first 25:21 and to understand your source. 25:25 People don't like this 25:26 and this might make this segment a little bit unpopular. 25:29 God can only help broken people. 25:34 He said that, "Blessed are..." 25:37 Because when you have any sense of self, 25:41 any sense of I, 25:43 He can't, He can't work through you. 25:46 That's right. 25:47 And that's dangerous for us at work. 25:49 Yes, it's dangerous everywhere. 25:52 I mean really, when it becomes about us... 25:56 Absolutely 25:57 Then I think the Lord just 25:58 kind of steps back and says, "Okay..." 26:00 "Let me see what happened." "Let me see what you got?" 26:04 And we always come back to... 26:06 yeah, because Satan is trying to destroy us 26:09 and without God we're unprotected. 26:11 That's right. 26:12 So in one minute, what do you expect 26:16 to achieve with Working the Dream? 26:18 I believe God's going to use 26:20 what we share in many different ways, 26:22 I believe there are people out there 26:23 that are looking for a job, they're going to hear things, 26:26 they're going to help them get that job. 26:28 I believe that there are people out there 26:30 attempting to keep a job 26:31 that are going to hear things that say, 26:33 "Ah, I need to function this way." 26:35 And we're going to tell it like it is, 26:36 we're kind of straight with this thing, 26:38 and I believe that people out there 26:39 that God wants to promote, 26:41 He wants to grow them in their positions, 26:43 but they need to be His hands, and His arms, and His eyes, 26:48 not just I need to achieve 26:49 so that I could be better than you. 26:51 Right. 26:52 I believe they're going to get all of that 26:54 and they're going to be blessed and encouraged. 26:55 Well, you know what, from watching that program, 26:57 I know they are. 26:59 This program is, it's rich and I just thank you and Brian 27:04 for getting involved in immersing yourselves 27:07 into this whole process, 27:09 we really appreciate what you've done. 27:11 You have to make sure that you watch Working the Dream. 27:15 I'm just, I'm so excited about it 27:18 and just check with the schedule, 27:20 you'll be able to see when it's on. 27:21 Thank you so much, brother. Thank you. 27:23 Thank you for having us. You're a dear. 27:24 Thank you. 27:29 What a blessing Eric is. 27:32 Working the Dream is gonna teach you the unwritten rules 27:35 that executive mentor share with 27:37 only a few of their favorites. 27:39 Make sure to check the D2D schedule 27:41 to confirm airing, dates and times. 27:44 Wow, I can't believe that we've reached 27:46 the end of another program. 27:48 We are so blessed by these programs 27:50 and we hope and pray that you are too. 27:53 So make sure that you join us next time 27:56 because you know what, 27:57 it's just wouldn't be the same without you. |
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