Participants: Jason Bradley (Host), Yvonne Lewis, Ryan Mack
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000224A
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00:01 Have you ever been so broke that it just didn't make sense?
00:04 Well, stay tuned to meet the host 00:06 of Dare to Dream's New Money Management Program. 00:08 My name is Jason Bradley 00:10 and you are watching Urban Report. 00:36 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:38 My guests today are Dr. Yvonne Lewis and Ryan Mack. 00:41 Our primary host Ryan Mack is a frequent contributor 00:44 to CNN and CNBC. 00:47 He received the top 40 under 40 Achievement award 00:49 from the Network Journal, and received Tom Joyner's 00:52 Hardest Working Financial Advisor Award 00:55 because of his efforts to empower the community 00:57 with the crucial life skills of financial literacy. 01:00 And Dr. Yvonne Lewis, the general manager 01:03 of the Dare to Dream Network 01:04 is playing a supporting role by asking questions 01:07 that represent the viewer's concerns. 01:09 I had the privilege of interviewing them 01:11 on the set of Dollars & Cents. 01:13 Let's take a look. 01:16 I'm here on the set of Dollars & Cents 01:18 with two very special people, Ryan Mack, and a woman 01:22 that is so near and dear to my heart, 01:25 she raised me, my mother, Yvonne Lewis. 01:29 So good to be here with you all. 01:31 Thank you. 01:32 Yes, yes, you're a good mom. 01:34 Thank you, honey 01:35 'cause you're sitting right next to me, right? 01:39 Now I am so excited about this program because you know, 01:42 a lot of people have, have questions about finances. 01:48 Ryan, why don't you start 01:49 by giving us a little bit of your background? 01:51 Well, I'm from Detroit, Michigan. 01:54 And, well, thank you for having me 01:56 on here first of all. 01:57 It's been a great, I think Dare to Dream 01:59 is a premiere network, worthy of support 02:02 and is on the cutting edge of solutions 02:05 which is, what I'm always proud to be a part of. 02:08 So from Detroit, Michigan, 02:10 I went to University of Michigan. 02:12 Worked for Wall Street for about six years, 02:14 started my own financial planning company, 02:17 from that I ended up going to, starting a nonprofit, 02:21 wrote a few books, I've done some CNN work, 02:25 and contributing and teaching about financial literacy. 02:28 And along the way I found out that, 02:31 that the word works 02:32 when it comes to teaching financial literacy. 02:35 And I had been exposed to it before, 02:38 I hadn't really thought about applying the Bible 02:42 to financial literacy before. 02:44 But I read a book called by Lee Jenkins 02:48 establishing a financial literacy 02:50 for African-American community based on biblical principles. 02:53 Never I consider that, I said, wow, this is something amazing. 02:57 And, but it only makes sense 02:58 because the word actually can be applied to everything. 03:03 And so, if God is a God of all alpha and omega, 03:06 then the word is, 03:08 should be applied to everything. 03:09 So, I started to really do a lot of research 03:13 and since then everything that I have taught 03:15 in financial literacy has been based on the Bible 03:18 in every venue so, 03:20 and that's what the Dollars & Cents 03:21 really is all about, so. 03:24 And what would you say about Dollars & Cents? 03:26 You know, we at Dare to Dream, we want to have solutions 03:32 as Ryan said, this is a, this is a network of solutions. 03:36 And so, what we've done is to look at what was going on 03:39 in the African-American community 03:42 and actually across the country, 03:44 across the world there are issues about money. 03:47 Money is mentioned so many times in the Bible 03:50 and we can now take this information, 03:53 these principles and apply it to everyday life, 03:57 so to me this program 03:59 along with our Take it to the Bank program 04:01 that we have with Cordell Thomas, 04:03 we again are placing these programs 04:08 at the feet of our viewers and saying, look, 04:10 these programs can help you in everyday life, 04:13 it's practical Christianity. 04:15 Absolutely. 04:16 They can help you in everyday life. 04:18 The answers are in the Word, 04:19 and one of the things I love about this program 04:21 when I'm co-hosting this program 04:23 which is why I'm here on the set with you today. 04:25 Yes, yes, yes, yes. 04:29 It gives us a real glimpse of biblical principles 04:34 and the application to our finances. 04:37 And for me, I mean, I've learned so much 04:39 from this program just sitting here 04:42 listening to what Ryan has been saying, 04:45 I've learned so much about all these different areas 04:48 financially and how the Bible is relevant 04:50 because we always talk about that on Dare to Dream 04:53 that the Bible is relevant, 04:55 and we can't just compartmentalize 04:57 and put the Bible over here and life over here. 05:00 No, Jesus wants to be a part of every facet of our lives. 05:04 And so, this program to me is just, 05:07 it's such a blessing and again it's a way for us 05:11 to get into the homes of people, 05:14 get into their hearts, 05:15 turn them to Jesus Christ 05:17 and show them the Bible is, is the answer, 05:20 it has the answer to your questions. 05:23 Amen. 05:24 Well, yeah, this is definitely a very powerful program, 05:28 very action packed with a wealth of information, 05:32 and finances again is something 05:34 that plagues a lot of communities, 05:36 plagues a lot of people 05:39 and I see you have written a book. 05:44 You need to write one on time management 05:45 because the stuff that you named, 05:48 CNN and all that stuff, writing books, 05:52 and traveling and speaking and all these things, 05:54 you should think about writing a book on time management. 05:56 Well, possibly I mean, you see the surface, 05:59 you don't see this iceberg underneath 06:01 so we all have our flaws. 06:04 We all have our shortcomings but praise God, I'm still here. 06:07 Amen. 06:08 And you know the Word of God 06:10 calls for us to be good stewards. 06:12 And that's another great thing about this program is, 06:15 is you are providing solutions, 06:17 you guys are providing practical tools. 06:20 And like you said, it is practical Christianity, 06:22 not only can I read what is found in the Word 06:27 but I can apply it to my life. 06:28 So I'm not merely professing Christianity 06:30 but living it and walking it too. 06:33 What are some of the things 06:35 that our viewers can expect in terms of some topics 06:39 that are covered? 06:41 Some, a little breakdown without giving them 06:44 the whole key to the Wall Street. 06:47 I think, well, 06:48 we have to really understand is this, right? 06:50 We are in an economic situation right now 06:54 that a lot of individuals are leaving check to Tuesday, 06:58 okay? 06:59 And for far too long we look towards our televisions 07:04 and the focus has been on what others can do for us, 07:07 okay? 07:08 We're asking of others, 07:10 we're asking of this politician, 07:11 or asking of this corporation, we're asking of that, 07:14 but far too many times are we really asking of Christ, 07:19 who gives power to us to make our own decisions, 07:22 to be empowered, to move ourselves forward. 07:24 And Christ has given us so much. 07:27 We don't have to keep asking for this 07:29 and that from everywhere else, there is one source. 07:32 And if we just continue to go to that one source, 07:34 everything will start turning out okay, but we, 07:37 I think and we neglect that, and when we, I mean, 07:40 just to be candid we've gotten through a political season now 07:43 where everyone's focus on this office and that office 07:47 and this and that, 07:48 and we're losing focus of the true sight, 07:51 isn't it right? 07:52 Christ wants us to live a life of abundance 07:55 and live abundantly. 07:56 Christ wants us to be diligent with our finances. 07:59 Christ wants us to be happy and to be content, 08:01 and to be empowered, but we're not asking, 08:05 we're not asking Christ what He wants. 08:06 We're asking the politician 08:08 of what they're wanting from us. 08:10 So it's the wrong person to be asking when we're asking 08:13 what this politician can do. 08:14 So this show really is all about getting back 08:16 to the basics of what we're supposed to do. 08:18 I'm thankful for being here, for the simple fact 08:21 that I can take the gloves off on this show 08:23 and I don't have to hide. 08:25 I don't have to try to 08:27 and we shouldn't do it in any way, 08:29 but, you know, and to be candid 08:32 and maybe this is a flaw of mine. 08:34 Sometimes you try to not be so upfront 08:37 about your love for Christ. 08:38 And what you try to, 08:39 well, maybe it's not politically correct and, 08:41 you know, there is a war on what we feel 08:45 and how we view things. 08:47 And I get to be real about how I feel about my love 08:50 and my passion for Christ and what He's done for me. 08:53 And to really just demonstrate, 08:55 topic such as how do we empower our families? 08:58 And using... 09:00 how do we budget wisely? 09:01 How do we invest? 09:03 How do we empower ourselves by getting our credit together? 09:08 How do we make sure that we can get... 09:11 make sure that I talked about budgeting before 09:13 but it's so many topics. 09:15 Unemployment. Unemployment, yes, yes. 09:16 Yeah. Just great topics. 09:18 Yes, so we try to be as comprehensive as possible. 09:21 And we try to make it where we had topics 09:24 that are that we can, that have a deep dive, 09:27 financial predators was a deep dive topic. 09:30 I really like that. 09:31 Want you to touch on that a little bit because on, 09:34 on that particular episode you talked about 09:36 how to avoid the pitfalls of these financial predators, 09:40 how they're preying on individuals? 09:41 Well, there are lot of individuals 09:43 who want us to remain ignorant. 09:45 And there are lot of individuals 09:47 who want us to, to not learn. 09:49 And they have a vested interest in keeping us in poverty. 09:53 And the bottom line is, 09:55 there's $360 billion worth of business being garnered 09:58 from check cashing, payday loans, title loans, 10:01 cash advances rental realms, rental weave stores, 10:04 we talked about rental weave stores. 10:08 I cannot but laugh every time I hear that. 10:10 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. 10:12 I know that weave is, is huge. Yes. 10:15 That's weave with the V not a D. 10:17 Okay, weave. Weave, it's huge. 10:21 But, but you can rent weave. 10:24 Yeah, you can, you can, finance weaves, 10:28 and there's an ability to essentially pay 10:32 for those individuals who can't afford their weave. 10:35 You can take out a loan and it's pretty pricey, 10:37 it could be over 200% interest in terms of that weave. 10:41 And you can pay for that weave in a, I'm not, 10:45 not going to anybody having a weave, 10:47 if you have one I know many individuals who do 10:50 but the thing is that, if you can't afford it, 10:52 you don't need to buy it. 10:54 You know, this time we go natural. 10:56 You know, this is time to be natural, you know. 10:58 And I'm not trying to tell you what to do, 11:00 what to do but maybe I am, okay? 11:04 But it's just time to be natural because we, 11:07 we have so many other things. 11:09 And our communities right now are suffering. 11:11 Yes. 11:12 The pawnshops right now are filled, 11:15 and are filled, it all depends on the month. 11:18 People are going to, 11:19 the pawnshop is a new bank in many of our communities. 11:21 Wow. 11:23 Where they will go 11:24 and they will buy a fur coat in the fall, 11:29 they'll wear it in the winter, they pawn it in, 11:32 they pawn it in the spring and then pay for it 11:34 in the summer just to do it over again, 11:36 so in a bank they've been paying for this fur coat over 11:39 and over and over, and over again. 11:42 So what we have to do is recognize 11:44 that as long as those individuals 11:46 who continue to exploit us, 11:48 and long as we don't live by the principles 11:51 that Christ has laid out for us, 11:53 then we will never get up from under the foot of those 11:57 who want to continue to make sure 11:59 that we have a vested interest 12:00 in a perpetual underclass of society being impoverished. 12:05 And our mission should be as a community not just my, 12:09 not just, not just, 12:10 our mission as a community collectively should be 12:13 how do we put these types of businesses out of business 12:17 using the principles that Christ has laid out. 12:20 If we do that, well, they'll start to recognize 12:22 that because not a black thing 12:24 or a brown thing or white thing, 12:25 it's a green thing, and they're attacking 12:28 our communities based upon what they perceive 12:30 as low credit communities, 12:32 impoverished communities, 12:34 people who are attracted to instant gratification 12:38 as opposed to delay gratification. 12:39 So all these things the word talks about 12:41 and we outlined on the show principles that the Bible says, 12:46 don't act hasty, be patient, 12:49 make sure you budget wisely 12:51 and count the cost of your tower 12:52 before you build it. 12:54 How to make sure that we can love one another and have true, 12:58 true value so that we're not influenced by marketing 13:02 to make us purchase something that we can't afford 13:04 in the first place. 13:06 So all of these things we'll be really getting 13:07 into over a long run. 13:08 You brought out some excellent tips on the marketing 13:10 and the psychology behind it. 13:12 Yes. 13:13 And I want to touch on that in just a minute. 13:16 But it's interesting when you look 13:17 and you see the different mindset, 13:19 you see how people think like you see some really, 13:22 really rich wealthy people. 13:25 And they might be in some beat up jeans, 13:27 beat up shoes and getting out of an old 80 something, 13:32 Honda Civic or Honda Accord 13:34 or something like that, something old 13:35 because they're not worried about showing their wealth. 13:38 Warren Buffett still lives in the first house he bought. 13:41 Really? Wow. 13:42 The first house he ever bought, the small house in Omaha, 13:46 still lives in the exact same house. 13:48 Little small house, not big at all, 13:50 him and his wife, 13:52 and he can afford to have a huge house, 13:55 still lives in the same house because it's not necessary, 13:58 he doesn't need it, he doesn't let society dictate 14:01 what he should have based upon his work. 14:03 And I think that's, 14:05 I think that's living Christ like to me. 14:06 Absolutely. 14:08 That $360 billion dollar price tag, 14:13 that's associated with the exploitation of the poor. 14:17 People in the inner city Appalachia, I mean, 14:20 these folks, the Bible says, you know, 14:23 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." 14:25 Well, they prey on the ignorance 14:28 and that's what you were talking 14:29 about in the program, 14:31 that these businesses prey on the ignorance of the people 14:34 that live there, and so, 14:36 if you're never used to dealing with the bank, 14:38 you're going to think that I just... 14:41 all I know is going to the check cashing place. 14:44 What do I do at the bank? 14:45 I don't know, I don't have an account, 14:47 I don't know what to do, 14:48 but that's why these programs are so important, 14:51 because we need to, we need to renew our minds, 14:57 be transformed by the renewing of our minds. 15:00 And so, this information is transforming, 15:04 it's really transforming. 15:05 You know, it was, it was rich. 15:07 I mean, and you have to apply the knowledge 15:09 that you receive too. 15:11 Knowledge without application is pointless. 15:13 Right. You know, it's just like... 15:16 Just merely professing Christianity, you know, 15:18 everything that the Bible says but let, 15:21 but yet someone lives their lifestyle contrary 15:25 to what the word says. 15:26 I think knowledge without application is just vanity. 15:30 I think it's really... 15:31 We both didn't know. 15:33 That's why, that's why you're my mom. 15:34 Right. 15:36 Just think about it if you just learned something, 15:38 just for the sake of learning something without using it 15:40 to empower or to use it for the benefit of others, 15:43 it just, it's really just about vanity. 15:46 If you look at and how I learned 15:47 that really exemplified that from the Civil Rights era. 15:52 We had, you know, look at Thurgood Marshall, 15:55 one of the most brilliant attorneys 15:57 on the face of this planet, 15:59 right, and I knock on wood because... 16:00 Yeah, I know, we do it again, I know. 16:03 But, one of the most brilliant attorneys ever, right, 16:05 and but he didn't just learn about law 16:08 just we can brag about learning about law. 16:11 He learned about law, so he can integrate society. 16:13 He learned about law so he can help pass critical legislation 16:16 and help pass critical, not legislation 16:19 but judicial decisions 16:20 that will impact society for the long run. 16:23 And so as we start to really learn about the word, 16:27 mean that the God wants us, you know, 16:29 I love what obviously the words 16:30 and fine talk but must think of action and sincerity. 16:33 Faith without works is bad being alone. 16:35 So all of these things that the God wants us 16:37 to take this information and show it to the world 16:40 into the ends of the earth and to making sure 16:43 that we are applying this and using it 16:46 for the greater good of society. 16:48 Absolutely, and it's amazing to 16:51 and you know, this could be a biased opinion, 16:53 it might not me. 16:56 But it's amazing to see the information 16:58 that is being shared on this program. 17:01 I mean, this is stuff that people keep 17:03 within the community, within their community 17:05 or that rich people keep to themselves, 17:08 but it's just been shared 17:10 and you guys are equipping people with the tools, 17:15 stuff that's invaluable, invaluable information. 17:18 Praise the Lord. 17:19 What are some more things 17:20 that you have taken away from this program? 17:22 You know, for me it's... 17:26 I'm not like miss financially aware. 17:30 You know what I mean, 17:32 like the Lord has allowed me to have money 17:34 during my lifetime and I'm grateful for that. 17:38 But if I knew then what I know now 17:42 and some of the things that I've learned on this program, 17:44 I really think things would have been better for me, 17:48 like I, I had a foreclosure years ago, 17:52 had with the IRS issues I mean, all these stuff, yeah... 17:56 About that story. 17:58 Not to interrupt you but I remember being a kid 18:01 when that happened and I was telling my friends 18:03 like, yeah, we just had a foreclosure and everything. 18:06 I had no idea what I was saying... 18:08 You're right. Not a thing. 18:11 People got disappointed. 18:12 I had no idea what a foreclosure was. 18:14 Yeah, just been foreclosure looking at all of that stuff. 18:19 Yeah, you should get a foreclosure, 18:21 you know, I had no idea. 18:24 It's funny because kids don't really realize 18:27 like the seriousness of it. 18:29 But that was a really hard thing 18:33 and learning more about, 18:37 you know, I see God's hand in allowing it 18:40 because I've been went to a place that I could afford, 18:44 you know, that the Lord not just I want a place, 18:46 He provided a place that I could afford. 18:49 And I had IRS issues and all these things 18:52 and I say this, 18:54 not because I have some need to share my business 18:58 but because people are going through all of this... 19:01 It's rough times out there. 19:03 It's real and it's hard 19:04 and but people have to also know, 19:07 that if you are going through this, 19:09 if you are dealing with this that, 19:11 God does have a plan 19:13 that He's not going to leave you 19:14 during your wilderness period. 19:16 And He will bring you through, 19:18 so some of the things that I hear Ryan alluding to, 19:24 it's just, it resonates with me, 19:26 because I went through 19:27 some of those really hard times myself 19:30 and yet, I am a living testimony 19:32 that God will see you through 19:34 that He will not ever leave you or forsake you. 19:37 And then He does have a plan for your life. 19:40 And so, but these tools are, 19:43 and that's what this is with this program, 19:46 its tools to get you through these hard times. 19:51 Like for instance we talked about, 19:53 you know, the whole McDonald's, right? 19:56 Lot of individuals who protest McDonald's 19:59 for not paying $15 an hour. 20:03 Is God asking you to protest all day? 20:06 Or is God asking you to go get educated, 20:08 so you can demand higher wages. 20:11 I mean, think about it and it to me... 20:14 We can't help you. We can't help you, yeah. 20:19 To me, it's just okay, 20:21 I get it if you want to protest for higher wages that's fine, 20:24 but at the same time you're not. 20:28 The world is asking you to be angry at something. 20:31 And it's easy to be angry at something 20:33 as opposed to 20:35 go for an actual tangible solution towards something. 20:37 It's easy to be against something 20:39 to than to be for something. 20:41 So this is why is, we... Christianity just be blunt. 20:46 Christianity is being a tag 20:48 and I believe purely for the sake that 20:51 Christians believe in something greater. 20:54 They have confidence because God gives it to them. 20:57 And so when you have that confidence, right? 21:00 That confidence 21:01 you know that tomorrow is going to be a better brighter day, 21:03 so you are not worried about it. 21:05 But the world wants you to be upset about it. 21:07 The world wants you to be upset and angry. 21:10 They want you to be venomous 21:11 and they want you to be have hatred and bitterness 21:13 because and they're like, wait a minute, 21:15 why are you not as bitter as I am? 21:18 Why are you not as bitter 21:19 because I can't get from this person... 21:21 Why are you not protesting and angry 21:24 and walking and joining these, 21:27 these resistance movements and all these things, 21:29 we're going to put all these things together 21:31 because we don't want to find a job, 21:33 we want to be angry. 21:34 So why are you not doing that 21:35 and you sit back and you're calm, 21:37 and you're okay because why? 21:39 Because God is giving you and God got it under control. 21:42 And you follow on those principles, 21:44 so they must say, we're going to have to attack them. 21:46 We got to attack those principles. 21:48 We have to attack Christianity. 21:49 We got to make it very inconvenient 21:50 for them to practice it. 21:52 We have to make it where they can't, 21:54 that they'd have to be angry at me, 21:56 so Christianity has to be the one. 21:58 So we go and we turn on shows like Bill Maher, 22:01 and they start saying that 22:02 you must be a fool for believing, 22:03 you must be an idiot for believing 22:05 or having faith in something greater than you 22:08 because you're not, you're not an atheist 22:10 and you're believing and they start, 22:11 you know, chastising, snakes and trees 22:14 and apples and all those types of things 22:16 and you must be an idiot for even talking like that, 22:19 and meanwhile they're angry, 22:22 all that men are so angry. 22:23 It's true. 22:24 Why is that, you know. 22:26 And why people who have faith, who might be, 22:28 you know have faith would live under a bridge. 22:30 I've met a homeless person who was happy 22:32 living under the bridge originally 22:33 because he had faith got from up under that bridge. 22:36 But when he was living under a bridge he was happy. 22:39 He got from up under that bridge 22:40 got his own home, 22:42 start to become a successful and he was still happy. 22:45 And he was in a same state up under the bridge 22:47 than he was when he was living in the house, why? 22:49 Because of Christ, right? 22:51 Come on now, come on. 22:52 I love it. I love it. 22:53 Well, this is what the show is about, right? 22:56 This is what the show is about and I'm just... 22:59 I like to be in a place where I can be free, 23:03 take the gloves off 23:04 and just say this is what it is. 23:06 You might not like it but it's not for you 23:09 this is, this is what Christ has done, 23:10 I didn't do this, 23:12 this is not, I didn't, I didn't cause this. 23:14 Yes. 23:15 So y'all might not, you might disagree or agree with it 23:18 but this is what Christ has done for me 23:20 and we're gonna talk about it 23:21 and He's not going anywhere. Yeah. 23:23 You know, I love, oh, excuse me... 23:25 That's all right. 23:26 I was just going to say that true joy, true peace, 23:29 everything that's genuine, 23:30 that's genuinely good comes from Christ. 23:33 You know, the devil tries to manifest counterfeits, 23:36 that's what he does. 23:38 And he'll make you think that if you're rich 23:41 or you reach a certain status 23:43 or, you know, you're going to be happy. 23:46 But you can be as, as rich as, 23:49 I won't even name a name 23:51 but whoever and be miserable, 23:54 you know, you look at some of these people on TV 23:56 and they're absolutely miserable 23:58 and they're super rich 24:00 because they don't have Christ. 24:04 The thing that I was going to say 24:05 that you said, that you so eloquently stated 24:08 and I just really agree with this is, 24:12 instead of protesting about it, 24:15 take some action to change your status. 24:19 You can change your status 24:20 not just, not just, 24:22 we're not saying that people should never protest. 24:24 No, what we're saying is, take responsibility 24:28 for what you are doing for where you are. 24:31 It doesn't mean 24:33 that you're discounting institutionalized issues 24:37 and systemic issues, 24:38 that's not what we're saying. 24:40 We're saying though that you can be a... 24:45 your decision maker. 24:47 You make the decision, you make the choice 24:49 and you act on it, act on it. 24:52 Okay, what this show is about 24:54 is having an expanded conversation, okay? 24:58 This conversation for far too long 25:00 has been in a narrow lane 25:03 about who put us here, 25:06 who's the reason that we're impoverished, 25:08 we want to attack those individuals, 25:10 we must blame these people, 25:12 we must march against these individuals, 25:14 this is their fault, 25:16 we are the victims 25:18 and we have to do something 25:20 to dedicate all of our time and lives, 25:22 and dedication and energy towards fighting them. 25:24 What this program is saying, okay, fine, 25:27 that's how you want to live that do your thing, 25:30 keep protesting that's been, but expand this conversation 25:34 to include Christ, 25:36 expand this conversation to include Christ. 25:38 Christ which says, "I'm going to put some action behind it." 25:41 Protest from 9 to 10 25:46 but go to the community college from 10 to 12 25:48 to get that education. 25:50 Come on. There you go. 25:51 And then from 2 to 4 25:53 maybe you go and you mentor some child in a school 25:55 because that person needs to be exposed to something. 25:57 And maybe from 4 to 6 you start your business 25:59 or put your business plan together, 26:00 there from 6 to 8 26:02 you repent from all the time you wasted doing nothing. 26:09 But this is, this is what we have, 26:10 we have to get to the level of an expanded conversation 26:13 that gets beyond this whole blame 26:16 to why we can move ourselves forward. 26:20 Solutions. 26:21 And Christ, there is no better solution than Christ. 26:23 That's right. 26:24 Who provides us everything we need, 26:26 so then we take from that and then we... 26:28 then you find yourself not protesting. 26:30 I was talking to an individual, 26:32 who said, you know what, 26:36 and he said, and he was, he was, he was a black guy 26:38 who's living in Detroit 26:40 and he says, "I don't, I don't have time 26:42 to really protest right now because I'm running a business. 26:46 Think about that. 26:48 You know, he owned the business. 26:49 Wow. 26:51 And this is what it's about 26:52 and that, and he was a Christ believer as well. 26:55 Amen. 26:57 I'm so excited for our viewers to get a hold to this program, 27:01 to watch this program, 27:03 to find out and learn the tools 27:05 that they can apply to their everyday lives. 27:07 And to take a look in the mirror 27:09 in a God's word and apply it every day. 27:12 Thank you so much for being with us. 27:14 Thank you. 27:15 Thank you. 27:16 Thank you, my brother, I appreciate you. 27:19 Wow, you know for me the most impressive feature 27:21 of this program is the application 27:23 of biblical principles to financial success. 27:26 It really demonstrates 27:28 the relevance of the Bible to our everyday lives. 27:31 I encourage you to grab your family, 27:33 a pen and paper and watch Dollars & Cents. 27:36 And if you miss any of them, 27:38 they can be purchased from our call center 27:39 during regular business hours 27:41 or watched on demand on the mySDA TV box. 27:44 Check our Dare to Dream schedule 27:46 for airing dates and times. 27:49 Make sure that you catch this program. 27:51 If you want to be on track to financial success, 27:54 you need to watch this. 27:55 Well, we've reached the end of another program. 27:58 Join us next time and remember, 28:00 just wouldn't be the same without you. |
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