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Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Dorothy Knight Marsh

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00:01 What Adventist icon
00:02 went from the cotton fields to the mission fields?
00:05 Stay tuned to find out.
00:07 My name was Yvonne Lewis,
00:08 and you're watching Urban Report.
00:34 Hello and welcome to Urban Report.
00:37 My guest today is Dorothy Knight Marsh,
00:40 author of the Anna Knight biography,
00:42 "From the Cotton Fields to the Mission Fields".
00:45 Welcome to Urban Report, Dorothy.
00:47 Thank you for having me. Oh, it's so great to have you.
00:50 You know, you sent me this book,
00:52 and it's just so interesting.
00:56 First of all,
00:58 what is your relationship to Anna Knight?
01:01 Because the book is a biography, Anna Knight.
01:04 What was your relationship to her?
01:07 Anna Knight was my great aunt.
01:10 Ah! Yes.
01:12 I used to see her at Oakwood, I lived at Oakwood as a child,
01:17 and I would see her on the campus,
01:19 and I regret now
01:20 that I never had a conversation with her.
01:23 I didn't know her journey,
01:24 but your book so beautifully outlines her journey.
01:28 But before we talk about her journey,
01:30 let's talk a little bit about your journey,
01:32 what made you write this book?
01:34 Well, I found this information, all of her information,
01:41 but then I found
01:43 the handwritten copy of her biography,
01:46 and I thought that maybe I should just share this,
01:48 and so with the new information
01:50 that I've found and incorporate that into the biography
01:53 that she had already written, and to update it,
01:57 and I found a lot of information in interviews.
02:00 It was just so much information
02:02 I just wanted to share it with the rest of the world.
02:04 Yeah, because her life was so interesting.
02:08 Where were you born?
02:10 I was born in Soso, Mississippi,
02:13 but I left there as a young child
02:14 about five years ago,
02:16 and we moved around quite a bit
02:18 and I had lived in cities,
02:20 my father was a builder for the conference
02:22 and he built a lot of churches, so we moved around quite a bit.
02:25 So you grew up in a Christian home.
02:27 Yes.
02:28 And when your father was a builder
02:31 for the, which conference?
02:33 Well, he work for several conferences,
02:35 built several churches in different conferences.
02:39 But I spent a lot of time in Oakwood,
02:40 growing up mainly at Oakwood as a young child
02:43 and then entered an academy there.
02:46 Okay, and so your whole background
02:49 then was kind of church focused?
02:51 Yes.
02:53 Yeah, and so did you decide at an early age
02:57 that you wanted to be an author
02:59 or did you take a different career path?
03:01 What career path did you take? Well, I was a business woman.
03:04 My husband and I had our own business for years,
03:07 and I didn't start out to be an author,
03:11 you know, because that was not my journey at that time,
03:16 but then, when I found this information,
03:19 then I started writing the book
03:21 which took me about 15 years
03:23 because, as usual, life just gets into the way.
03:27 So once we retired and moved back
03:29 to my birthplace of Mississippi,
03:32 then I decided I would get really serious
03:34 and finish the book.
03:36 Ah, so this was not something
03:39 that you did in like a year or six months.
03:42 This was a 15-year project.
03:44 Fifteen-year journey.
03:46 Wow. How did you...
03:48 Was it like giving birth or did you feel,
03:50 when it was done?
03:51 How did you feel when it was done?
03:53 When it was done, it was like giving birth
03:57 because I wanted...
03:59 When it got near to the end,
04:00 I just wanted to hurry up and push this book out.
04:05 I wanted to get it done. Yeah.
04:07 So when it finally happened, I was just so happy.
04:09 Oh, I'm sure.
04:11 Let's talk about Anna Knight,
04:14 first of all, her parents, her family situation.
04:18 I found it to be very interesting,
04:21 explain that to our viewers.
04:23 She had a very interesting family.
04:25 Her father was a white farmer, her mother was a mulatto woman,
04:30 and she had two sisters and one brother.
04:36 Now they lived in an area called,
04:40 it was Jones Jasper County,
04:42 and it was just like a compound
04:45 where they were from a mixed racial community,
04:49 it was the first
04:51 mixed racial community in that area.
04:53 So therefore, she kind of stayed
04:56 in that community
04:58 with her mother, and with her brothers,
05:01 her aunts, and uncles all stayed in that community.
05:05 So her dad was Newt Knight? Was Newt Knight.
05:09 About whom they made the movie. Yes.
05:12 With... The Free State of Jones.
05:14 The Free State of Jones.
05:15 So her dad was Newt Knight, her mom was...
05:19 Georgeanne. Georgette?
05:21 Georgeanne, and they...
05:25 So when you say it was a mixed community,
05:28 do you mean it wasn't segregated?
05:30 When you say it was a mixed community,
05:32 was it a segregated community
05:34 or were blacks and whites living together?
05:36 How was that?
05:38 Well, there was...
05:39 Newt was a very busy man, he had an all-white family,
05:43 he had two mixed race family.
05:47 So head of family, my great grandmother Rachel
05:49 who died at early age,
05:51 and then they had a family by Georgeanne,
05:54 and they were all mixed, you know, the white and black.
05:57 Too black to be white and too white to be black.
06:00 Yeah. So they lived there.
06:02 You know, when I would see
06:05 Sister Anna Knight on Oakwood campus,
06:08 she looked white.
06:10 I mean, she absolutely
06:11 I guess passed for white in certain environments,
06:18 but they were called at that time
06:20 White Negros, correct?
06:22 Correct. The book you said...
06:23 Yes, they were called White Negros.
06:25 White Negros.
06:26 And so what kind of life...
06:29 Like, as a White Negro,
06:35 could you pass like in certain environments
06:38 or people knew that you were black,
06:41 so you couldn't, you didn't fit in anywhere,
06:43 how was life as a White Negro?
06:47 Well, some of them left the area
06:49 and did pass for white and lived as white
06:52 most of their lives, they still do.
06:54 And then the others, they stayed there,
06:56 everybody knew who they were, but they never bothered,
06:59 it was just something nobody never talked about
07:02 but they knew exactly
07:03 who they were and who we were living there,
07:07 but no-one just never talked about it.
07:08 They just said those are the Newt Knight's children
07:12 from Jasper County and that was it.
07:14 And did the black children associate with the white,
07:18 you know, the brothers and sisters from Newt Knight?
07:19 Yes.
07:21 So the family, the children played together
07:23 and knew each other as sisters and brothers?
07:26 That is correct.
07:28 And so how did the, I know I'm asking a lot,
07:31 but these are questions I'm pretty sure
07:33 viewers would want to know
07:34 because you kind of automatically assess like,
07:37 how did the white wife deal with the black wife.
07:41 I mean, how did they get along?
07:44 At first, they did not get along
07:46 and she had left at one point but she came back.
07:49 Who, the white wife?
07:50 The white wife Serena,
07:52 she left at one point but she came back,
07:54 and Rachel, like I said, died at an early age
07:58 and they didn't associate that much.
08:02 But Newt took care of all of them,
08:04 all the children, all of his wives,
08:06 he took care of them in his own little community
08:09 there that he had established.
08:11 It's an area called Six Town in Mississippi,
08:13 so he established that community
08:15 and he just took care of all of his families,
08:18 the white, half white, and another half white.
08:24 So he kind of,
08:26 he was a man that nobody questioned him
08:30 and he could do exactly what he wanted to do.
08:33 Was he a wealthy man?
08:35 Not a wealthy man,
08:37 but he was a hard worker and he owned a lot of land.
08:42 But he wasn't wealthy by any means,
08:44 but he was just a hard worker that took care of everyone,
08:47 not only his family, but during the war,
08:50 he took care of all the other families
08:52 and the widows that were left from the war.
08:55 He was the one that gave them the food and the shelter
08:59 that they needed during the Civil War.
09:02 So he was a man that you loved or you hated.
09:06 Interesting character. Yes.
09:10 Did he consider himself a Christian
09:13 because he was a polygamist,
09:15 I mean, he had these different wives,
09:18 but he wasn't, probably wasn't legally married
09:20 to the black ones
09:22 'cause you couldn't legally marry
09:23 black in those days,
09:24 you couldn't mix races at that time.
09:27 No, but it was thought sort of like a common love marriage
09:30 between the wives,
09:32 but, you know, like I said, he played by his own rules.
09:35 Yes, he called himself, he was a Baptist, I think,
09:40 but he called himself a Christian man
09:43 but I don't know how you could say that.
09:48 Yeah.
09:49 Yeah, it's a perspective. Yeah.
09:52 So it was out of that environment
09:56 that Anna Knight was born into a mixed household?
10:03 That's correct.
10:04 How often was her dad around? Was he or around regularly?
10:10 Was he there on a regular basis to parent her?
10:14 Or did her mom just kind of have to do it?
10:17 He was involved in all of his family's lives,
10:19 all of them.
10:21 He would come around to see to it that everything,
10:24 everybody was taken care of and they had their,
10:27 they were not slaves now,
10:29 all these women lived in his property
10:30 but they were free women
10:32 and they were sharecropped,
10:33 so they had their own land,
10:35 eventually Georgeanne and his mother
10:37 bought her own land,
10:38 she owned about 160 acres of land herself.
10:41 So she was hard working woman herself
10:45 and so she provided for her children
10:47 and he provided for them also.
10:55 So Newt was not Georgeanne's father.
10:57 No.
10:59 Okay, so Rachel was Georgeanne's mother.
11:03 Right. But Newt wasn't.
11:05 And so Georgeanne grew up and then Newt married her.
11:08 That's correct. Yeah.
11:10 When Rachel came to live with Newt,
11:13 she had Georgeanne
11:16 and another little girl named Rosette,
11:19 which we don't know too much about,
11:20 and she was pregnant with Jeffrey.
11:23 And then, so Georgeanne was not related to Newt at all.
11:29 So it was just Rachel's daughter.
11:32 Right, right. By another man.
11:34 So what kind of childhood did Anna Knight have?
11:37 It was kind of a rough childhood
11:39 because there was so many people living in this log cabin
11:43 besides her two sisters and brother,
11:46 there were uncles that lived there,
11:48 they were married,
11:50 and they were just hardworking people.
11:53 They had one big house where there was the bedrooms
11:57 and they had another house that was the kitchen
11:59 where everybody would eat,
12:01 and this is where they cooked their food.
12:02 But Georgeanne...
12:04 I mean Anna was always felt like
12:06 she was in the way and pushed around
12:08 'cause there was just so many people.
12:10 So she spent a lot of her time out in the woods, nature,
12:14 and that's why she loved to go and take her dog,
12:17 and go to the woods, and eat the wild berries
12:19 and the nutgrass and muscadines,
12:22 and that's what she preferred to do.
12:24 So she was kind of a loner, was she introverted?
12:29 No, not at all.
12:31 No, she always loved to be around people
12:34 and always was the teacher preacher,
12:37 just the kind of person she was.
12:40 So how did she...
12:43 Because she learned to read. Yes.
12:45 How did she learn to read?
12:47 Her mother did chores
12:50 for the other families in the area,
12:53 and for doing the laundry,
12:56 doing the chores for the families,
12:58 they said, "I would do this
12:59 if you would teach my daughter how to read."
13:02 And Anna decided
13:03 that she would do the children's chores
13:05 if they would teach her how to read too.
13:07 So when they were finished their books
13:09 the Blue Back Speller,
13:11 they would give them to Anna
13:13 and they would teach her
13:15 how to form the letters and the words,
13:17 and that's how she learned how to read.
13:21 And she was very motivated, wasn't she?
13:23 Yes, she was.
13:24 From the book,
13:26 it sounded as though she really wanted to learn,
13:30 she had a zest of thirst for knowledge.
13:33 Yes.
13:35 And she would go off and read
13:36 and just like enjoy
13:38 that time away and read and study.
13:42 Read and study.
13:43 She knew there was something better in life for her
13:46 than what she had.
13:48 So the only way for her to get out
13:50 was to get an education
13:52 and to read and learn how to write.
13:54 And how did she get that education?
13:59 Her mother,
14:01 when they went, glimpse back, she went to the Soso,
14:04 which is a town about six miles from where they lived,
14:08 and there a man came by was selling these magazines,
14:11 subscriptions to a little newspaper,
14:14 and Anna begged her mother to give her the money
14:18 so she could get that subscription
14:20 and her mother gave it to her
14:21 but she gave her a big tongue lashing,
14:24 "So you should never ask me
14:26 in front of people like that again."
14:28 So in the magazine, she found letters,
14:31 I mean place called Cousins' Exchange,
14:34 and there is where she learned how to write,
14:38 other people her age and said,
14:40 "Would you please send me some reading matter
14:43 and I want to read."
14:45 And so she received a lot of magazines
14:48 like Wild Bill magazines, novels and stuff like that,
14:53 but she finally ended up getting a magazine
14:56 from Miss Emery, which was Signs of the Times,
15:01 and when she found that magazine,
15:03 that was the one that she fell in love with.
15:07 So that was kind of an introduction
15:11 into spiritual information?
15:13 That is correct.
15:15 So expand on that, how did she,
15:17 how did her spiritual path develop?
15:19 Then after she started getting that information,
15:22 Miss Emery put her in touch with the Chambers,
15:25 Mr. and Mrs. Chambers out of Chattanooga, Tennessee,
15:28 and so he would continue to send her information,
15:30 a youth instructor, and a little friend
15:35 so that she could read the information
15:38 but she didn't know what she was reading,
15:40 she didn't know what religion this was,
15:41 all she knew that she loved it,
15:43 she had to find out more and more about it.
15:46 And so they kept sending her the information,
15:49 and finally, she told her mother,
15:52 "I want to go to Chattanooga, you know, to meet the Chambers.
15:57 And so I can get an education and find out
16:00 what is this newfound religion."
16:02 And then that's what she did.
16:04 She left home and... How old was she?
16:06 She was about 16 at that time and everybody said,
16:10 "You can't go out there,
16:11 you haven't caught a train by yourself,
16:12 somebody will kill you, get kidnapped or anything,
16:15 so you can't go."
16:17 But she went anyway,
16:18 she was a very, very determined lady,
16:21 but she went anyway.
16:24 So she went to Chattanooga from Mississippi?
16:26 Right.
16:28 On her own at 16. At 16.
16:30 How did her mom feel about her going?
16:33 Like what kind of reaction did she get from her mother?
16:36 She didn't like it at all.
16:38 She said, "But if your head did set on it,
16:40 you go ahead and go."
16:42 So her father came around and said,
16:43 "If you're gonna go,
16:45 and if people ask who you are, what you are,
16:48 just say nothing."
16:50 And so she kept those words,
16:51 she didn't say anything when they ask, "Who you are?"
16:55 And but she went ahead anyway but her mother and her family
16:58 did not like her leaving home at an early age.
17:02 So when she got to Chattanooga, how she received?
17:06 The Chambers received her with open arms.
17:09 It was a family, they kind of like
17:11 took in a lot of young girls to train them
17:14 and to help them to go to school.
17:16 So she was no different from any of the other girls.
17:19 They didn't ask who she was,
17:20 if she was white or black or what,
17:23 they just took her in just like one of their own
17:25 and they taught her about Seventh-day Adventism.
17:29 And so she decided she would join the church
17:32 and get baptized while she was there.
17:35 Wow. So look at God.
17:37 I mean look at how God orchestrated all of that,
17:41 you know, brought her to Him through literature,
17:46 and then she got an education.
17:50 I mean, God is just... He's so amazing.
17:52 He has a plan for everyone's life.
17:55 He does.
17:56 She had no idea were God was gonna take her.
17:59 No, she didn't. She had no idea.
18:01 So she got that education there,
18:04 and she had, I remember reading in the book,
18:07 she had a hard time at first at the school in Chattanooga,
18:11 tells us a little bit about that.
18:13 Well, they asked her,
18:15 "Since you're gonna be up here with us,
18:16 we're gonna send you to school."
18:18 So they sent her to Graysville Academy
18:22 to go to school.
18:23 And while there, the other students said,
18:27 you know, "We have somebody in our classroom,
18:30 a gringo they called her,
18:32 and we don't know who or what she is,
18:34 but if she's in our classroom,
18:37 we don't want to come back to school."
18:38 So the parents said,
18:39 "If you don't take this person out of this classroom,
18:42 we will not send our children back to school."
18:44 So she only had attended a real school for one day
18:49 and she had to leave the school.
18:52 And the Chambers taught her, home-schooled her.
18:56 So how beautiful of them, they didn't send her back.
18:59 They didn't send her back They home-schooled her.
19:01 And then she left there and went where?
19:04 To Mount Vernon Academy.
19:06 And they prepared her to go to Mount Vernon Academy
19:10 and that was further away from home.
19:12 She, you know, she didn't tell her mother,
19:15 mother didn't know where she was going
19:16 but she would write the letters back to her and tell
19:19 "I'm in Mount Vernon, Ohio now, going to Mount Vernon Academy."
19:24 She always made sure that mother knew where she was
19:27 even though her mother did not answer her letters.
19:31 Could her mother read?
19:32 Yes, she could read. Okay, okay.
19:34 If she couldn't, she had someone to read it for her,
19:36 but she understood.
19:38 Yeah, but she never answered her.
19:39 Never answered her. Wow.
19:42 So from the academy, where did she go?
19:46 She went to Battle Creek Industrial School.
19:50 They heard about that,
19:52 and it was two nurses that she had met
19:55 while she worked in Chattanooga,
19:57 they recommended her to go to
19:59 the Battle Creek Sanitarium Industrial School,
20:02 and she was accepted into that.
20:04 She went to Battle Creek, Michigan.
20:08 There again, further away from home
20:10 and started school and worked her way
20:13 through school there.
20:15 And one of the things that I noticed in the book is
20:18 how industrious she was, what strong work ethic she had.
20:22 She wasn't somebody who would just slouch
20:25 or half do anything.
20:27 She really focused on getting the job done and doing it well,
20:31 and she stood out among her peers
20:33 as a result of that.
20:35 She did. She did.
20:36 How did she get to India?
20:39 I think is 1901, when she left,
20:42 when she graduated from Battle Creek in 1898.
20:45 She came back to Mississippi
20:47 because she graduated as a missionary nurse,
20:51 so they ask her what does she want to do,
20:52 she said, "I want to go to
20:54 the mission field to Mississippi."
20:57 When she went back to Mississippi,
21:00 then she got a call
21:01 to attend general conference session
21:04 and Dr. Kellogg asked for people
21:06 to go to India as missionary nurses,
21:09 and she and another lady volunteered to go.
21:13 So there again, she never returned home,
21:16 she said, "But if you send someone to take over my school,
21:20 then I will go to India."
21:22 Because she had started a school
21:24 among the black people in Mississippi.
21:29 The mixed race community which no school
21:32 will accept the children from that community.
21:35 No school?
21:37 No school, they could not go to school
21:39 because they were too white or too black.
21:42 And so they couldn't go to school,
21:44 so she came back and started her own school
21:47 for the children.
21:49 That's beautiful.
21:50 So she started the school
21:52 and one of the things that she asked God
21:55 to let her know if she should go to India was...
21:58 Tell us.
22:00 If she'd go to India,
22:01 "If you helped meet since went to my school,
22:03 then I'm going to India."
22:05 She prayed all night and cried all night.
22:08 And she made up her mind
22:09 that she's going to go ahead to India,
22:11 they did find someone to go to her school in Mississippi,
22:14 and she went to India as a missionary nurse.
22:18 Wow. What happened to her while she was in India?
22:21 She did a lot of things, she worked,
22:25 first she started out in Calcutta,
22:27 but then she heard about the Karmatar mission
22:29 that needed people, needed some help there,
22:32 so she went to the Karmatar to work as a nurse, bookkeeper,
22:38 taught classes and did a lot of medical work
22:42 with the village people.
22:44 She loved working with the lower income people
22:48 and so she preferred working with the village people.
22:52 And so she did a lot of work
22:56 with the local people, traveling back and forth
23:00 from North and South India always on the train
23:04 and selling books, magazine, and just teaching the people.
23:09 In the book, you have some great pictures
23:12 of Anna and her family,
23:14 let's take a look at some of them.
23:15 I think the first one that we have is Newt,
23:19 tell us about that picture.
23:22 That's a picture of her father Newt Knight,
23:25 and he also was, they call him Captain Newt Knight
23:28 because he formed his own army during the Civil War,
23:31 but that was her father.
23:32 Wow. And now we have her mom.
23:35 Her mother is Georgeanne,
23:37 and she was Anna's mother
23:41 and they had four children together.
23:46 Four children. Together. Wow.
23:47 The next one we have is Anna as a young girl.
23:51 How old was she in this picture?
23:52 She was about 17 years old.
23:55 That was the first time she was leaving home
23:56 when she had their picture taken.
23:59 Oh, so she had it taken just before she left?
24:02 Yes.
24:03 And we have another picture of her.
24:06 And that's when she graduated
24:07 from Battle Creek Sanitarium in 1898
24:11 as a missionary nurse.
24:14 A missionary nurse. Yeah.
24:15 Look how lovely she looked. Yes.
24:18 And then I think we have one more,
24:20 the couple that was good her.
24:22 That was Elder and Mrs. Dyo Chambers,
24:25 and they were the ones
24:27 who helped her to get her education
24:29 and the ones that were sort of
24:30 like a surrogate parent for her.
24:33 Wow.
24:34 And then the last one is a more...
24:36 Well, it's not current,
24:38 but this was in her later years.
24:40 What was this, the center?
24:43 This is the Anna Knight Center for Women's Leadership
24:47 established at Oakwood University,
24:49 it was dedicated last March, very, very proud of that.
24:54 Our family gifted all of the information
24:57 regarding Anna Knight to the university.
25:00 And this is going to be a center
25:02 where young women could come and train to be leaders.
25:06 We want them to take a role as leaders in their communities
25:12 and in their church in order to be change agents.
25:16 So that's what the center is about.
25:18 They'll be able to come there and study her life what she led
25:22 and any other women that have done great things,
25:26 information is in that center.
25:29 So we're very, very proud of that,
25:31 we did a lot of hard work and got that through,
25:34 and it's a beautiful, beautiful center.
25:37 And when you see go there
25:38 and you see her coming out of the door,
25:40 you have to take a step back
25:41 because it looks like
25:42 she just walking straight toward you.
25:46 It is kind of 3D.
25:47 It's beautiful, yes,
25:48 it's located in the Dykes Library
25:52 in the bottom floor
25:54 across from Ellen G. White Estate,
25:57 so we are very, very proud of that.
25:59 Very nice, very nice.
26:02 What do you think
26:04 would be her burden for young women now?
26:09 I think her burden would be that women have to,
26:15 don't take no for an answer, you know,
26:18 even though a lot of obstacles could be put in your way,
26:21 you must learn how to get over them
26:24 and she started everything with nothing,
26:27 and they can do the same thing is to start with nothing
26:30 and make something really, really great
26:34 because she was a little green girl from Mississippi
26:36 who turned out to be
26:38 the marvelous woman that she was.
26:40 Yes. When does she live and die?
26:44 She lived, she retired at Oakwood College then,
26:48 and she died in 1972, at the age of 98.
26:54 Ninety-eight, when was she born, do you know?
26:56 She was born in March 4th, 1874.
27:00 1874. Yup.
27:03 She saw a lot.
27:04 She saw a lot
27:05 and she's buried in
27:07 Newt Knight Cemetery in Mississippi,
27:09 and she was the last person to be buried in that cemetery.
27:13 Did she ever marry or have children?
27:15 Never married, never had children.
27:17 Her thing was that all the children
27:20 that she taught or helped to educate,
27:24 those were her children, you know, that was her,
27:27 she just wanted to make sure that every child
27:29 that wanted education could get one,
27:32 and that's what she dedicated her life to,
27:34 training teachers to teach
27:36 and to making sure the children
27:38 had all their physical examinations,
27:40 and then she prepared the curriculum for the teachers
27:43 and made sure that everyone got an education.
27:45 Wow.
27:47 You know, when I went to Oakwood,
27:49 I went there in my childhood,
27:51 Anna went there partially for college,
27:54 and as a child,
27:55 I went to the Anna Knight Elementary School.
27:57 That's right.
27:58 So they even named the school after her?
28:00 That is correct.
28:02 And which is now Anna Knight Hall,
28:03 which is the education building on the campus.
28:06 Wow.
28:08 Well, thank you so much for being with us.
28:09 You're welcome.
28:10 This was such an interesting journey that she had
28:13 and interesting interview with you
28:15 as you share her life with us, thank you so much.
28:19 Thank you.
28:20 Ecclesiastes 9:10
28:22 in the New King James Version says,
28:24 "Whatever your hand finds to do,
28:27 do it with your might for there is no work
28:30 or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave
28:32 where you are going."
28:34 Anna Knight did her very best
28:36 and therefore, she inspired us to do likewise.
28:41 You too can be a leader.
28:44 God's got a plan for you,
28:46 just ask Him what His plan is and go for it.
28:50 Well, I can't believe our time is up.
28:52 Thank you so much for joining us.
28:54 Join us next time 'cause you know what?
28:56 It just wouldn't be the same without you.


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