Participants: Jason Bradley (Host), Yvonne Lewis (Host), Ryan Johnson
Series Code: UBR
Program Code: UBR000228A
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00:05 Do you want another key to unlock
00:07 the secrets in the books of Daniel and Revelation? 00:10 Well, stay tuned to meet a young man 00:12 who has made a compelling documentary 00:14 about these prophetic books. 00:16 My name is Yvonne Lewis. 00:17 And I'm Jason Bradley 00:19 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:44 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:47 I have my Dare to Dream co-host, 00:49 my Urban Report co-host... 00:51 Right. Jason Bradley. 00:52 Good to be here. And good to have you Jay. 00:55 And our guest today 00:56 is no stranger to Dare to Dream or Urban Report, 00:59 he's none other than Ryan Johnson, 01:01 producer and director 01:03 of the popular Dare to Dream film... 01:05 We took it over, redemption. 01:08 And producer of the Mindful Minute fillers 01:11 that we show. 01:12 Thank you so much, Ryan, for being with us. 01:16 Oh, I'm honored to be here. 01:18 Jason, so good to see you, man. 01:19 Good to see you. 01:20 You... 01:22 When you're here last time. Yes. 01:23 We talked about a project that you were gonna work on. 01:27 We talked about it on Dare to Dream 01:30 and we talked about it on the parent network as well. 01:32 Yes. 01:33 This was gonna be the Daniel and Revelation series. 01:36 Yes. 01:37 Tell us, have you gotten it done? 01:40 And what's happened with that? 01:41 From the time you were here to now. 01:44 So, yes, we are in postproduction on all of it. 01:49 And as you recall it is in three sections, 01:53 we have the signs of Jesus return, 01:56 and then we have Daniel, the Book of Daniel. 01:58 That's four sections, excuse me. 01:59 And then we have Revelation 02:01 and the fourth section is discussing 02:03 the second coming of Jesus Christ, 02:06 nothing but the second coming of Jesus Christ. 02:08 A lot has happened since I was last here 02:11 and I can't wait to tell the story. 02:12 Oh, I know, I know, I can't wait to hear it. 02:14 But before you start, 02:16 what's different about your series 02:17 from any of the other Daniel and Revelation series 02:20 that are out there? 02:22 What's different? 02:23 Well, first I have to acknowledge 02:24 the God filled men and women, 02:27 who are out there, they are in the field, 02:29 they have a passion for making sure 02:32 that we humanity are as ready as we can be, 02:35 as filled with Biblical knowledge as we can be 02:38 for the second coming of Jesus the Christ. 02:41 And I have had the privilege 02:43 to work with many of these people 02:45 and they've been doing series and doing seminars. 02:48 But I grew up in the age of Project Sunlight. 02:52 Now we're talking earlier, I know you've read that. 02:55 Unleashed and then there was 02:57 this audio production called "Now". 02:59 And these are people who would get on 03:02 and they would dramatize biblically 03:04 the things that we are told about 03:07 in the Word of God. 03:09 And they would take it all the way through to 03:11 when the clouds roll back 03:13 and Jesus comes in the clouds of glory. 03:15 So as we were putting this together, 03:18 we realize that John, 03:21 there alone on the Isle of Patmos 03:23 and Daniel, of course, 03:26 the Titan there 03:28 at the different stages of the Babylonian Empire 03:30 and the Medo-Persian Empire. 03:32 When the Spirit of God came to them 03:34 and showed them these things, 03:35 they were given this massive meal of visual input. 03:40 In fact, one of the prophets has told, 03:42 what you see right and that is what they did 03:46 and the Word of God is effective. 03:47 Yes, we read what it is that they saw, 03:50 and we read what it is 03:52 that they were impressed to write, 03:53 but we are reading an account from men 03:57 who are doing their best 03:59 to describe the powerful things that they saw. 04:02 And that motivated us. 04:03 Of course, we could never equate 04:05 to what it is that they saw, 04:07 but what if we could use our skills 04:10 and our talents prayerfully 04:12 to create an extremely visually stimulating series 04:16 that bounced back and forth between the instruction 04:20 and the visual all of it, of course, 04:24 on the backbone of the Word of God. 04:26 And that is what we believe 04:28 it makes this a bit different 04:29 than the other prophecies, series that are out there. 04:32 The focus on the dramatizing and bringing to life 04:36 the things that are discussed in the Word of God. 04:38 I'll tell you what. 04:39 You've got me on the edge of my seat. 04:41 You know, I think you should do like an audio book. 04:45 With that voice, right? Exactly. 04:47 I'm just listening like I'm just stuck. 04:50 You, guys, are too kind. 04:52 The graphics are so powerful... Oh, praise the Lord. 04:55 In fact we have a clip that we're gonna show 04:56 in just a minute. 04:58 That will kind of illustrate to our viewers, 05:01 just how intense some of these graphics are. 05:04 Because I think we need visual aids, 05:07 when we're working with books like Daniel and Revelation, 05:11 we need to have something that really that we can see. 05:15 Yes, ma'am. 05:17 Not just that we read but that we can see 05:19 so it really impacts us. 05:22 Praise the Lord. Praise the Lord. 05:23 Mentally and spiritually. 05:24 And there's so much symbolism. 05:27 Yes. 05:28 So it helps to be able to visualize that. 05:32 Now how did you get started in all this, 05:34 like where did you start? 05:37 That's a great question, Jason, without queuing the violins 05:40 and going on and on for ever. 05:43 I am a classic example of a man 05:46 who had his direction... 05:49 Serving a God who had his direction 05:51 and then being taught to follow the God, not the man. 05:56 You may know that 05:57 I have a background in medicine, 05:59 I've a medical degree, 06:00 and while I was in medical school, 06:03 we developed a software, an educational software 06:07 using the skills that we have and it was very visual. 06:10 Anatomy is, of course, 06:12 something that one must experience 06:14 tactile and visually in order to orient him or herself 06:17 to the human body. 06:18 And our software began with that 06:21 and we just perfected 06:23 and, of course, we're still in the process 06:24 of getting better and better. 06:27 We perfected ways 06:28 to economically represent the human body visually 06:33 and found ourselves standing in the middle of a field, 06:36 that we call visual effects. 06:38 Now right about that time, my home church 06:42 which is the Northeast Seventh-day Adventist Church 06:45 in Charlotte, North Carolina, 06:46 they do this Easter program every single year. 06:51 And they had done this program, my dad and my mother 06:54 very instrumental in that and I called my mom and said, 06:59 "You know, I've got a crazy idea, 07:01 what if we take some of these visual effects 07:03 and just see what we can do with it?" 07:06 And it is out of that, that redemption was born. 07:11 And we're standing there on the precipice of opportunity 07:16 and realizing that there's an entire ministry 07:19 here in this direction. 07:21 And then the infamous Lord, what would you have me do? 07:24 And through a lot of things, you know, 07:26 we have found ourselves here. 07:28 How does the medical degree tie in? 07:29 Well, I do get many opportunities 07:33 to preach and talk on health. 07:35 We do believe that the health message 07:37 is an integral part of the three angels' message 07:41 and give glory to Him 07:42 and that includes our bodies, minds, and bodies. 07:44 And Daniel talks about that in Daniel 1 I believe. 07:48 And that's kind of how all of that ties in 07:50 but anyway I hear the violins, so let me back off. 07:53 No, no, no. You're good. You're good. You're good. 07:56 But that's how I get into this. Yes. 07:57 So you used your... 07:59 You kind of started out in your medical place... 08:01 Yes. 08:03 But then you saw the spiritual application of... 08:04 Yes, ma'am. 08:06 Of what you had learned with the software. 08:07 Yes, ma'am. Look at God. 08:09 Look at how God. Look at God. 08:10 It's amazing to me, 08:11 how he just leads and guides and orchestrates things 08:16 and gets us where He wants us to be 08:18 with His different projects. 08:19 Yes, He does. I love it. I love it. 08:21 If we were just listened have mercy. 08:23 And so as I had said before these graphics are amazing. 08:27 Let's take a look at that clip, right now. 11:01 Wow. 11:03 Is that powerful or what? 11:04 Praise the Lord, praise the Lord. 11:06 Oh, this is a series 11:11 that everybody's gonna wanna see. 11:13 Oh, we hope so. We hope so. 11:15 Really, because it's got 11:17 all these different elements in it. 11:19 Who are some of the speakers that we saw in it? 11:22 Oh, yes. 11:23 And you remember over the years you and I would discuss 11:26 who shall we use. 11:28 Well, the first speaker... 11:29 The entire project 11:32 is divided up into four main sections. 11:35 I mean, we're gonna be playing with your permission 11:37 a lot of stuff on the air here, over the next year or so. 11:41 Oh, wait, wait. Yes, ma'am? 11:43 You heard that right, viewers? 11:44 You've heard that? 11:46 Dare to Dream gets to play a lot of this on the air. 11:50 I'm just saying. 11:52 You can't get out of it now. 11:54 Oh, I'm on it. 11:55 Our first section is signs. 11:58 And the Pastor Taj Pacleb, wonderful young man, 12:01 I know you know him. 12:03 Yes. 12:04 And I've had a great opportunity 12:05 to work with him. 12:07 I just have to say, when he's shooting his part, 12:09 he's impeccably dressed. 12:11 You know his tie, his shirt is stark's and everything. 12:14 But he's a Hawaiian. 12:16 So when you get down and he's there on camera 12:18 and he's preaching with such passion, such conviction, 12:21 and then you get to his feet and he's barefoot. 12:23 Oh, you're kidding. 12:24 Oh, I love this, little behind the scene stuff. 12:27 But anyway Pastor Pacleb 12:30 he has the first section it is signs 12:32 and he talks about the signs of Christ return. 12:35 But tries to tie 12:37 in some of the current events, you know, 12:40 and just remind us that God is in control 12:43 and truly He's coming. 12:44 Our second section is a big section 12:47 and it is Daniel, the entire book of Daniel. 12:50 Pastor Peter Neri, who is the pastor 12:52 of the Paradise Seventh-day Adventist Church 12:54 in Las Vegas 12:55 and we were talking about him earlier. 12:57 He takes on the entire Book of Daniel, 12:59 beginning with chapter 1 13:01 and going all the way through chapter 12. 13:03 And that is... 13:05 Well, that was something we'll talk about 13:07 some of the challenges that he was having 13:08 during that time. 13:10 The third section of Daniel that is Pastor Henry Wright 13:14 the infamous. 13:16 I know. A wonderful man... 13:17 He is incredible. A frighteningly prepared man. 13:23 A brilliant man. 13:24 Brilliant, I'd tell you, you know, 13:26 you're standing there and you're just like, 13:28 "Ryan, this guy is awesome." 13:29 And he... 13:31 In fact, he told us, he said, 13:33 "I will be doing the book of Revelation." 13:36 And Pastor Wright has spoken, he is... 13:39 Yes, he is. 13:41 And he has the book of Revelation 13:42 and he discusses it 13:44 from the standpoint of redemption, 13:46 a wonderful standpoint. 13:48 In a way that I have never heard it, 13:50 presented before. 13:51 And then of course my mentor, Pastor Ezra Mendinghall 13:55 from Charlotte, North Carolina. 13:57 He does a fireside chat, 14:00 sort of account 14:01 of the second coming of Jesus Christ. 14:04 Just sits down 14:06 and then begins to talk narratively. 14:09 Now the first section that is released that, 14:11 which you have seen we actually began with that. 14:14 And we introduced, you know, the other speakers 14:17 but the primary course in that meal 14:21 is the second coming of Jesus. 14:23 "Why?" One would ask, "Why would you begin there?" 14:26 Because the entire Bible all of it, 14:29 all of the prophecies when you put together 14:31 and looked at as a sum it's about the coming of Jesus, 14:34 the coming of Jesus in his first advent, 14:37 the coming of Jesus again to take his children home. 14:39 And I believe particularly now in our tumultuous society 14:44 we need to be encouraged so we released that first. 14:47 "Hey, Jesus coming." 14:49 Yes, yes. You know. 14:51 But these are the preachers, outstanding people 14:54 with whom I have been very honored to work with. 14:57 Yes, ma'am. 14:58 This project has not been without challenges, 15:02 tell us some of the things that you...? 15:04 Well, first of all, how long has it been 15:06 that you've been working on this? 15:09 And then what's happened as you've been working on it? 15:12 Because we know that the enemy does not want this out 15:15 so tell us what some of the challenges 15:17 that you've been faced with. 15:20 I think it's been about four years 15:22 from conception to where we are right now. 15:28 It's been a number of years 15:29 since I was blessed to be on the air with you. 15:34 You know, 1 Peter says, 15:38 "I think it not strange." 15:41 The fiery trials. 15:44 And we read a text like that 15:48 over and over and over. 15:51 And just the way the human mind is, 15:54 we allow it to lose its meaning and pertinence. 15:59 And then every now and then 16:01 I will say I will call it a blessing, we are blessed. 16:04 To be reminded that this thing is serious. 16:10 The devil is not playing and our God is all powerful. 16:13 That it is spiritual warfare. 16:16 Oh, so well put, Dr. Lewis. 16:18 Yes, ma'am. 16:20 You will remember... 16:23 When you came out and thank you so much 16:24 for coming out to Las Vegas 16:27 for the premier of Silent Witness 16:30 and I'll tell our viewers' a Silent Witness 16:32 is a production that we put on 16:35 that discusses personal evangelism. 16:39 And if you're interested, you're welcome 16:40 to play that as well. 16:42 Thank you. 16:43 You will remember that when you came 16:44 to the premier of Silent Witness 16:47 my left arm was not working. 16:50 And you said to me, 16:53 "Ryan, you know, what's going on?" 16:55 I said, well I've got this problem with my with my arm." 16:57 And I had a kind of tucked like an injured wing 17:00 next to my body. 17:01 And you gathered 17:03 my little brother Rodney and myself 17:07 and right there in the arena you prayed, you remember that? 17:10 No. 17:12 You don't remember that? No, I don't remember. 17:13 You prayed a special prayer. She did. 17:16 She said, "Lord, there are challenges, 17:21 the enemy wants to stop this project, 17:23 and I pray a special blessing on this team." 17:28 And we did not know that we were standing at that point 17:33 just in the gateway. 17:36 And through the gateway there was an obstacle course, 17:41 and we did not know. 17:43 Now jokingly Pastor Ezra Mendinghall and I 17:47 had made a pact 17:49 when we embarked on this and this is before that. 17:52 We joked on the phone that we were not afraid 17:55 of what the enemy would do, 17:57 we would go forth, we are soldiers, 18:00 you know, "You're not afraid?" 18:01 "I'm not afraid." "You're afraid?" 18:02 "I'm not afraid." 18:05 And if only we had known what stood before us, 18:08 I would like to thank that 18:09 we would still have made such a pact. 18:11 You probably would not have been laughing. 18:13 Right, right, right. 18:15 You know, I'm not afraid. 18:16 It would have been more, you know, in that vain. 18:19 And immediately following that we went on vacation 18:25 after you went back. 18:28 Oh, you're all over the world. 18:29 I assume you went to Illinois, you could have gone to Russia. 18:32 I don't know. 18:34 And then began the reign of terror for me. 18:38 I was diagnosed with 18:40 an extremely severe aggressive form of rheumatoid arthritis 18:45 and what happened in my left hand 18:47 soon spread all over my body. 18:50 I was preaching sermons, you know, with the cane, 18:53 just leaning, I had the gloves, you know, 18:56 the braces just leaning on the pulpit. 18:59 One time I was I was preaching in a church 19:01 and the cane fell off of the pulpit 19:04 onto the ground and I thought 19:05 I'm going to be standing here forever. 19:08 I'll be here next Sabbath, guys. 19:09 Oh, wow. 19:11 And this gentleman, this elderly gentleman, 19:12 you know, far more ambulatory than I, 19:14 gets up, he grabs the cane, and he hands it to me 19:17 and he says, "You know, here you're doctor." 19:18 I said "Thank you." 19:20 It was during that period 19:23 and I have to try to illustrate the overlap. 19:26 It was during that period, while I was on a severe decline 19:30 that we were scheduled to shoot Pastor Henry Wright. 19:34 And it was November by the time we got to Takoma Park 19:40 and I was very, very bad off. 19:42 I couldn't do the camera equipment, 19:45 Jason, so I had to have help putting it together, 19:47 my father was there with me, 19:49 and he had actually just had surgery on his foot. 19:51 So we were two crippled Johnsons 19:54 showing up in the Takoma Park, Maryland 19:57 and we're there. 19:58 And, you know, Pastor Wright is so full of energy and life, 20:01 you know, and he's like, "Do you need any help?" 20:03 I was like, "Oh, yes, sir." 20:05 So I go creeping out on the cane over to the car 20:09 and he's standing there and I look down the road 20:11 and these young people's good looking men and women, 20:14 they're coming from the university, 20:16 and I didn't wanna be standing there with a cane. 20:18 You know, when the young people went by. 20:19 So I said, "You know, hey, Pastor Wright 20:21 would you hold my cane for a second?" 20:25 Set him up. 20:27 He takes the cane 20:28 and then he sees this people, young people, 20:30 he just gives me this look, you know. 20:33 "So I have to keep this thing?" 20:35 You know, "Please don't, sir." 20:37 But it got very bad, very quickly, 20:40 we did that taping that filming 20:42 and that was November by December 20:45 I was unable to get out of bed, 20:47 unable to feed myself, unable to go to the bathroom. 20:50 The arthritis had settled in my lungs, 20:52 I had an effusion, I've... 20:55 Breathe like that. 20:57 It had gotten into my heart and... 21:01 Wow. 21:02 There came a day, 21:04 when I knew that I was gonna die. 21:08 You know, in my medical experience 21:13 we're always on the front side of the desk. 21:18 When you look a person in their face and you say, 21:20 "There's nothing we can do." 21:23 But I got to be on the other side. 21:27 And they said, "There's nothing we can do. 21:31 We've never seen a case like this." 21:35 While this is going on 21:37 Pastor Mendinghall calls me as he would do encourage me. 21:42 And in passing he says, "You know..." 21:44 Now Pastor Mendinghall is 21:48 he would be just be so glad to know that 21:50 I'm going to say something 21:52 that could be even construed his praise 21:54 but he's a fine example of a man, 21:56 in my opinion, and in the opinion of many others. 21:58 He really is, he walks the walk. 22:01 And the health message is something that he, 22:04 at hears to he hold it close to his heart 22:08 and lives by example. 22:10 So when he said, "You know, 22:12 I went and had a physical and my levels are a little high 22:14 and I'm thinking about having a prostate biopsy." 22:19 Now I have permission for him to tell the story. 22:22 And I was there and I was, you know, 22:24 all balled up and everything and I said, 22:28 "Well, you're gonna do it?" 22:29 He says, "Well, I've lived right, 22:31 I've done everything, I don't really know." 22:33 And I said, "Well, sir, 22:34 I think you have it in your family, 22:35 you think you should go and have that biopsy." 22:37 And I would call him 22:38 and I would stress him out have the biopsy, have the... 22:40 I got to do a funeral, here I have go to Fresno. 22:43 "Get the biopsy, sir. Get the biopsy, sir." 22:45 And he did. 22:48 Now when you see Pastor Mendinghall 22:51 on the Daniel project 22:53 know that he is just a few days from that biopsy, 22:58 which is an invasive process. 23:00 And I was concerned about whether or not 23:02 he could even sit there and do this 23:04 but he said, "We have work to do." 23:06 This was after the biopsy. 23:09 This wasn't days before, right? 23:12 Say again please. 23:13 Was this before the biopsy that he did...? 23:15 No, he did it... It's right after... 23:17 His taping following the biopsy. 23:19 Okay. Wow. 23:20 So the overlap is while I was on this severe physical decline 23:24 then his trials began, right about there. 23:28 So we leave his story for a second if I may, 23:31 and then I just plummeted, plummeted 23:34 it was absolute awfulness. 23:37 I must admit, I'll admit on the air. 23:40 I turned to my wife one day and I said, 23:42 "I cannot do this any more. 23:44 I can't live in this kind of pain anymore." 23:50 And all production on Daniel had come to a complete stop. 23:56 And it's often then 23:58 when we are at the very end of our understanding 24:00 that we remember the great physician, "Oh, yes." 24:05 There is one greater than I, is there not. 24:07 And he has outlined so clearly in the Bible how we should live 24:12 so there's a little place called Wiemar 24:14 many of you heard of it, out there by Sacramento. 24:17 After the doctors had nothing else, 24:19 I had nothing else. 24:20 No one knew what to do. 24:22 It wasn't even me, I was like, you know, 24:24 I'll go cart me around, you know, just do whatever. 24:29 My wife and my mother got together 24:30 and they began a GoFundMe, 24:32 one of these crowd funding things 24:34 and churches from around the country 24:36 put in money to get me to Wiemar, 24:37 they laid me out in the back of this SUV 24:40 they rented and they drove me up to Wiemar. 24:42 And I wish you could have seen their faces, 24:44 that there are people there with cancer, 24:45 with congestive heart failure, and various issues. 24:48 And I like the youngest one there, 24:51 they just pulled me out 24:53 and they looked at me 24:55 and the Wiemar physicians admitted to me later. 24:58 They said, "When we first saw you, 25:00 we thought what are we supposed to do with this." 25:05 They did what they always do. 25:06 They applied those principles of health. 25:09 And I began to just... 25:11 I had not been doing 25:13 what I would consider poorly 25:15 but I ate dairy, I daily ate cheese 25:17 they took all of that away 25:18 and after severe decline in about five days 25:22 I was able to walk kind of like a duck. 25:24 And I got on the phone it was a Sabbath afternoon 25:27 I called my wife I said, "Baby..." 25:28 Can I say baby? Yes. You are. 25:31 I said, "Baby..." I said, "I can walk like a duck." 25:34 She said, "You go my duck." 25:36 And we were praising God and rejoicing. 25:39 My good friend Jackie Esposito Cunningham, 25:42 you know her as well. 25:44 She's been here on the air, 25:45 she's working as a nurse there at Wiemar 25:48 and she would help me, 25:49 because I really needed help, I couldn't feed myself 25:51 and then when I got there. 25:52 And when we were rejoicing and praising God. 25:55 It was Sabbath afternoon 25:58 my very first week there at Wiemar 26:01 that things began to get bad again 26:04 progressively worse and worse 26:07 and then by Sabbath afternoon I gonna say 26:10 maybe four or five 26:12 I was completely paralyzed on my left side. 26:14 Wow. 26:16 And I lay there in pain 26:19 is beyond my ability to describe. 26:24 And the phone rang 26:25 I had the cell phone on my chest, 26:26 and my wife was there, 26:28 and I reached with my right hand 26:29 and I answered the phone, you know, 26:31 and she goes, "How's my duck?" 26:32 And I tried to be dishonest with my wife. 26:36 But she heard it in my voice. 26:39 I later heard the account of what happened 26:41 she was still at church for the afternoon program 26:43 the kids there, 26:45 when she heard the disease having returned in my voice. 26:52 There was just crying, "Lord, why? 26:56 Why we come so far? 26:59 But I had hung up the phone 27:00 because to hear my wife in that state 27:02 was far harder than what I was going through 27:05 and I lay there. 27:07 And there was a knock on the door 27:10 and I couldn't get to the door. 27:12 I guess they had missed me 27:14 and one of the attendants there at Wiemar. 27:17 I don't have the permission to talk about her 27:18 so I'll keep her name she says, "Johnson, are you all right?" 27:21 And I said from my bed "I'm a mess." 27:25 She opens the door, she comes in, 27:26 they came and they scrape me up, 27:28 they took me to those infamous showers, 27:30 they did their thing, rub me down, 27:31 they did whatever they could do. 27:33 They brought me back into the bed 27:34 and they lay me there. 27:36 Every Bible story about paralytics 27:38 is running through my mind 27:40 but now not from the perspective 27:41 of one who was reading a scripture about a paralytic 27:44 but now I understand, 27:47 the sinner, 27:49 helpless before the power of God 27:52 and they prayed over me. 27:54 Lord, we need a miracle. 27:57 Don't bother asking me 27:59 if the things I'm telling you today are true, 28:01 for they are, and there are witnesses. 28:04 And as they were leaving this attended, this woman says, 28:09 "You know, let me give you something," 28:11 and she gave me a benadryl, one pink pill 28:15 7:39 at Walgreens. 28:20 And then they put down the newspapers 28:22 and everything that I couldn't get to the restroom. 28:24 They said, "We'll check on you later." 28:26 Benadryl is an antihistamine put you to sleep 28:29 and I went to sleep. 28:30 For a while my friend Jackie had come in 28:33 and sat on the corner of the bed and watched me. 28:36 4:30 in the morning Dr. Jesus showed up. 28:41 Come on. Come on now. 28:45 I had to use the restroom, excuse me. 28:48 Emotional here and I got to through that, 28:50 I got more to tell. 28:52 I had to use the restroom and I just jumped out of bed. 28:57 Standing on my feet for the first time 29:00 and it scared me. 29:03 I wish I had a video camera 29:07 that you all could see the looks on their faces 29:10 the next day when they had breakfast 29:12 and I walked in that place. 29:15 Walked in. 29:16 So much so that the physicians had pull me aside 29:22 and they pulled my wife aside. 29:24 When she heard, she got in the car, 29:25 and drove all the way to say, "I got to see this for myself." 29:28 And they said, you know, we need to talk about, 29:30 how you're gonna talk about this. 29:32 We had people here, who need to, 29:33 and hear to the health program. 29:36 And here over night something has happened 29:38 we don't want them to think that 29:40 they can just drop how shall we... 29:42 Oh, my goodness a miracle had taken place. 29:45 People are crying 29:47 and then that began this phase in my life 29:50 when I'm going all over the country 29:52 talking about what God can do. 29:54 Now I get in the car when the time is up 29:58 and the doctors are there at Weimar 30:00 and they're waving at me. 30:01 Almost like a prodigal son that has come home 30:04 and I drive all the way home. 30:06 And my muscles have atrophied, 30:08 I'm in bad condition but I can walk. 30:11 And I get back to Las Vegas. 30:15 And I'm having to go and get iron infusions 30:19 because my body is been just that, 30:22 it deteriorated that much. 30:24 And one day I'm driving home 30:26 and I decide to call Pastor Mendinghall. 30:28 And I said, "Pastor, how are you doing?" 30:30 And he had just finished listening to the message 30:35 and I was the first to here. 30:38 He said, "Boy, you know, this thing is cancer." 30:44 Hard day. 30:46 Hard day. 30:49 And he said, "Don't tell anyone, 30:54 because I got to tell Sister Mendinghall." 31:00 I go to church that Sabbath and I'm bearing this burden 31:03 because I love Ezra Mendinghall, 31:07 I dressed like Ezra Mendinghall 31:09 I preach like Ezra Mendinghall. 31:12 I try. 31:16 Somewhere, someone is like, "No, you don't." 31:20 You wish. 31:22 And so Pastor Neri... 31:25 I go to the Paradise Church, which is there in Las Vegas. 31:28 He is out of town, 31:30 he has gone to Arkansas to preach a series 31:34 that he calls "The Shaking." 31:38 He wants to talk about 31:39 how we need to get back to the Word of God 31:41 because a little lady by the name of Ellen White 31:44 predicts that a shaking is coming 31:46 and while he is down there 31:48 his heart rate goes to about three hundred, 31:51 we're talking about cardiac arrest. 31:53 What do you mean 100? 31:56 They set him down they send him to the hospital. 32:01 And through many, many diagnostic process 32:04 because this came and it went, and it came and it went. 32:07 They find out that he had AFib. 32:10 And this is not uncommon 32:11 but, of course, it was a severe case. 32:16 He is the first to say, 32:21 we got on the phone and he said, 32:22 "It seems to me, Ryan. 32:25 That since we have all agreed to do this Daniel thing, 32:31 all of these things are happening to us." 32:34 And that is when we coined the term the Daniel effect. 32:41 It got to the point that when people volunteered 32:43 we let them know the devil is busy. 32:46 Everyone on the team 32:47 the gentleman who plays Jesus leukemia, 32:50 I could just go on and on and on 32:52 the devil got very, very busy. 32:56 Pastor Neri's case just horrible, 33:00 horrible things that he went through 33:03 before he was finally able to get the medical treatment 33:06 needed to mitigate 33:07 the symptoms that he was having. 33:09 Pastor Ezra Mendinghall 33:11 brought all the way down 33:12 into the valley of the shadow of death. 33:16 And then Jesus... 33:17 And brought all the way back out everyone with a testimony 33:20 me with a testimony, Taj with a testimony, 33:24 and Pastor Wright with a testimony, 33:25 Pastor Mendinghall with a testimony, 33:28 Pastor Neri with a testimony. 33:29 Now when you look at these people 33:32 looking at the camera and talking 33:33 they are talking from a depth. 33:36 They're talking from a level that they were not at before. 33:44 And when we do the Daniel section, 33:46 you will see that Pastor Wayne O'Bannon 33:49 is playing King Darius, King Darius. 33:53 I was filming him on this day. 33:58 We were over at 33:59 the Abundant Life Seventh-day Adventist Church, 34:01 which is also the school, 34:03 where my wife was a teacher, and she came in and she said, 34:05 "Ryan, when you finished, 34:07 I need you to take a look at Jaylen." 34:08 Jaylen was my... 34:10 She just turned eight year old daughter, my oldest. 34:12 I said, "Okay, I'll take a look." 34:14 We're laughing, we're talking, you know, what I'm walking, 34:17 we're having a great time because the first thing I said 34:22 when I got on the phone 34:23 after the Wiemar experience was, 34:26 "Now let's get back to Daniel." 34:28 Pastor Mendinghall said from the bed in the hospital, 34:32 "We must complete Daniel, we have work to do." 34:35 Pastor Neri calling me from the hospital, 34:38 "When I am done with this, 34:39 make sure that I'm able to do mine." 34:44 We were just in this very, very high state 34:47 when my wife said, 34:49 "I want you to have a look at Jaylen." 34:52 And I didn't think anything about it 34:55 I went on and we filmed Pastor O'Bannon. 34:58 I'm just gonna just embarrass him. 35:00 He is a wonderful man but, you know, 35:02 he had to dress up as a meed and so, you know, 35:07 he is there and he is in the process. 35:08 He is kind of a diesel I didn't know and... 35:12 Hair on his chest and everything, you know, 35:13 he is walking around. 35:16 I was like, I didn't know Pastor O'Bannon 35:17 had it like that, you know... 35:19 We're laughing and having a great time. 35:21 And six hours later I finished this 35:23 and my wife is still waiting on me, 35:25 "Will you look at Jaylen?" 35:26 Jaylen is there in the little kid's infirmary 35:29 and I went in there. 35:30 And she said, "Hey, daddy." 35:32 She jumped on me down, I shut the door. 35:34 "Hey, sweetheart, how you're doing?" 35:36 So I went on, and I had a look, 35:38 my wife is showing me when I saw it. 35:43 I thought 35:48 rhabdomyosarcoma. 35:55 You're here and then you're here. 36:00 No ladder, no steps, no pole, just... 36:06 For our viewers who don't know 36:08 what the symptoms are with that? 36:09 And what that is, it's a form of cancer? 36:11 What is that? It is a form of cancer. 36:13 And because of it the nature 36:19 I will use judgment as I describe this. 36:24 It usually shows up in children, 36:30 female children. 36:33 There is a higher prevalence 36:34 in the African-American demographic. 36:39 It is a highly malignant form of cancer, 36:44 usually when children get cancer 36:46 it is not the result, 36:48 it's not so much exogenous that cigarettes 36:51 but we're talking about. 36:53 It's not so much of a genetical nature 36:55 such as a mutation, 36:57 something that one is born with like breast cancer 37:00 the BRCA gene and that kind of thing. 37:02 But it is often left over's from the embryonic experience. 37:07 You get these embryonic cells 37:09 and they're very nondescript stem cells 37:14 and they can kind of go either way 37:16 and there are forms of cancers that show up in children. 37:20 That kind of in this classification and this is one. 37:26 I immediately said, you know, we need to call 37:29 her primary care physician and we did. 37:32 And then we go rushing over there and Dr. Darcy, 37:35 she says all other things, all the platitudes, 37:38 all the things that are necessary to say, 37:39 and then she gives me this look. 37:42 We go from there to the pediatric surgeon, 37:44 this is in like a matter of days. 37:47 And now this is an emergency 37:49 and now Jaylen whom we have tried to shield 37:52 from the reality 37:55 is beginning to pick up on what is going on. 37:58 There was this... 38:00 This scene they were... 38:02 That plays in my mind over and over they were, 38:04 they were learning a song at the academy 38:05 and Jaylen is sitting there on the doctor's table 38:08 and she's singing this song, 38:09 tears are just coming out of her face... 38:14 I called Mendinghall during one of these visits, 38:17 "Sir, we must pray, we have to pray." 38:20 And then I pulled the Mendinghall, 38:21 I didn't tell anyone and I asked my wife, 38:24 "No, let's not even speak it into existence." 38:26 The weekend went by 38:28 and I had to speak at a special thing 38:31 they were having on a Sunday believe it or not. 38:33 And I'm standing up 38:35 and I had to say to the congregation 38:36 my little girl is sick. 38:39 I can't even think straight yet 38:42 here's the sermon Lord be with me. 38:45 And then we went through this. 38:47 Pastor Neri was in the audience that day and he came up to me 38:49 and he said, "Ryan, what is going on? 38:51 Don't bear, whatever you are bearing alone." 38:54 And I told him. 38:56 And by this point we had scheduled a surgery, 38:59 a biopsy for my little girl. 39:03 Pastor Neri prayed with me. 39:07 And on a bright fine Monday 39:14 I think we get up and we dress 39:17 like we're going to church, you know, 39:19 with my little girl and her stuff 39:21 and we go down to Sunrise Medical Center, 39:25 the pediatric surgical wing. 39:29 We entered the hospital 39:31 and there are parents all of whom 39:32 are going through their own private terror. 39:35 And there is Pastor Neri, 39:37 he is there before we are there 39:38 and he stands up and he walks over 39:40 and I like to say that at this point 39:42 God was put on trial. 39:44 Because now these people see the preacher 39:47 and the family come in 39:48 and we pray right there in front of everybody. 39:51 And now everybody wants to see what God is gonna do. 39:57 After the prayer 39:58 I go back into the preparation room 40:00 with my wife and my little girl 40:02 and we're there and we're talking 40:04 and I'm the man of the house who supposed to be, 40:06 the strong one. 40:07 I had to step out. 40:10 I stepped out and Pastor Neri is there in the hall 40:12 waiting on me. 40:14 And then I go Pastor Neri 40:16 and I said, "Pastor, I know why this is happening. 40:21 In fact, we made a deal, we made a pact, 40:24 we would be afraid, we would go forth, 40:27 we would do this thing, 40:28 but this is a price I cannot pay." 40:32 I said this is too high or cost, not my little girl. 40:39 Pastor Neri put his hand on my shoulder 40:42 and he said, "Ryan, 40:45 I can only imagine what you're going through right now." 40:49 He says, "I know God gave His son, 40:53 He knows." 40:56 And then he looked me in my eye and he said, 40:59 "But I got to tell you, 41:02 when it comes to the gospel 41:05 no price is too high." 41:10 He said, "We agreed to fight are you a solider?" 41:18 And then he said, "We need to pray." 41:19 And he said, "Ryan, you pray first and I pray Lord, 41:22 mitigate it, Lord, make it better, 41:25 Lord, don't let it be so bad, let us have this far." 41:28 Jaylen was in classes to be baptized 41:31 and my wife had accompanied me, 41:33 maybe we should baptize her now. 41:34 You know, this is the kind of conversation, 41:37 Lord, just smooth it over. 41:39 And Neri was like, "Okay, okay, my turn to pray. 41:43 Jesus take it." 41:49 And then he left 41:51 and I went back into the room 41:53 and now they're prepping my little girl 41:54 and all the tubes and things 41:55 that one should never see in a child 41:57 are being attached to this little girl. 41:59 And my wife and I are standing 42:01 and then they go off in those double doors 42:03 that you can't go through 42:05 and they direct us to the waiting room. 42:06 You know, whenever I tell this story up front 42:09 this is where I focus the waiting room, 42:12 when you are there, 42:15 and you realize your absolute helplessness. 42:18 But you called on Jesus and you're waiting. 42:23 And what I tell you is true 10 minutes, 42:26 we had been sitting there 42:28 I was staring pretending to read a USA Today 42:32 and the surgeon himself came into the waiting room. 42:37 And said, "Johnson's..." 42:41 Now I'm 6'4" and my wife 5'9" we're hard to miss 42:47 and when we stand up and everyone is looking, 42:51 everyone that had seen us pray, 42:54 he meets us in the center of the waiting room 42:58 and he said, "Go home." 43:03 He said. 43:05 We went in there 43:10 to biopsy 43:13 and there is nothing there. 43:18 Wow. Yes. 43:19 Look at God. 43:21 It's what he said. 43:22 Nothing there? That's what he said. 43:24 I'll have you know I've been asked to lunch, 43:27 I've been asked to dinner by people 43:29 who've heard me tell the story. 43:30 And they said, 43:31 "Now that I have you face to face doctor. 43:33 Look me in my eye 43:35 and you tell me that story is true." 43:37 I said nothing makes me happier, 43:41 than I tell you that story is true. 43:43 And that evening as we are there rejoicing 43:46 and I'm just gonna let you know 43:47 that right there in the waiting room 43:48 church broke out. 43:50 Wow. People are rejoicing for you. 43:52 Unplanned church, yes, 43:55 and I learned the power a testimony 43:58 you can talk about it, preach about it, 44:00 philosophize about it, read about it, 44:02 all these things 44:04 but nothing is as powerful as saying 44:06 and this is what God did for me. 44:08 Amen. 44:10 I know that everybody's story won't end like that. 44:13 I know that not until we get to glory 44:16 will sickness and death be a thing in the past. 44:18 But I also know that regardless of the world in which we live 44:24 there was a God who is greater and we serve Him. 44:28 And look at how God, you know... 44:31 Satan he couldn't get... 44:33 He tried to work you. 44:36 Yes, ma'am. 44:37 And God delivered you. 44:40 So then he does it in even more cowardly thing 44:43 he goes for your children, for your child. 44:46 Yes, ma'am. 44:47 And God stepped in and said, "Get away from her." 44:50 Yes, ma'am. And she... 44:51 I cannot, I had no idea that all this is happening. 44:55 I'm trying to hold it together while you tell the story 44:59 because I'm just, yes, 45:01 it's just I cannot imagine going through all of this 45:05 and yet look at what God has brought you. 45:08 Yes, ma'am. 45:10 When you walked in here, 45:11 we had no idea that you had been knurled 45:14 and that you had been on a cane. 45:17 We had no idea because God has restored. 45:20 Yes, ma'am. 45:22 And He's done that with Jaylen too. 45:24 Yes, ma'am. Praise God. 45:25 And so there's nothing left now? 45:27 She has no... Nothing. 45:29 Oh my... 45:31 Praise the Lord. 45:32 The thing that my wife had brought me into see. 45:35 Gone. Wow. 45:37 And that night as my wife and I lay, 45:43 side by side, starring at the ceiling. 45:48 And we're talking about the things of the day, 45:50 as how do you even digest that? 45:52 The doctors themselves, the word they used is miracle. 45:57 The doctors, they don't like to use that word. 45:59 That's... It's not scientific. 46:01 The word. It is not. 46:03 That is not in the annals of allopathy, 46:06 that's not in there. Not in there. 46:07 That's right, not there, let's look on. 46:09 But we're lying in bed 46:10 and then my wife turns to me and says, 46:13 "Now finish Daniel." 46:19 We have known for a while 46:24 now that the devil doesn't want his people 46:28 telling the truth, 46:30 particularly in this age, he didn't want it. 46:35 And we have known now for a while 46:39 that he is willing to do anything to stop us. 46:43 We also know that God is greater. 46:47 That's right. 46:48 And that he cannot stop you, the devil can't stop you. 46:51 You know, when I'm sitting here and thinking about 46:55 what you're telling us right now, 46:57 I envision Satan trying to put an end to it, 47:02 trying to hurt you, 47:04 and in his attempt to do so 47:07 how many souls were won, that are waiting for him. 47:09 An excellent point Jason. 47:10 I cannot wait to get to heaven 47:13 and find out, find you, 47:19 and see how many people were won 47:24 as a result of God showing up 47:27 and showing out in that waiting room in that hospital. 47:30 He did make a wonderful point. 47:31 Your point is well made and well stated 47:34 that the thing that Satan intended for evil. 47:37 How is it wind up being... 47:39 Even more powerful tool for good. 47:41 Because can you imagine even this interview 47:45 without my being able to say everything I just said 47:48 at over last half hour. 47:50 And I can appreciate as well 47:54 a God who knows what He's doing 47:57 in the times when we say, "I don't get this, 48:01 I can appreciate a God who does." 48:04 I've done a lot of talking... 48:06 No, no. This is powerful. 48:09 Yes, yes. 48:10 This is exactly what we want... 48:12 When I asked you what had been happening. 48:14 Yes, ma'am. 48:15 I had no idea 48:17 of all the behind the scenes, things, 48:21 the tragedies that you've been enduring 48:25 and yet the triumphs. 48:27 Yes, ma'am. In Christ. 48:28 Yes, ma'am. 48:30 I and all the members of our team, 48:34 that we talked about how we can't go into details 48:37 because we don't have that permission. 48:38 But even you and I, 48:40 in some of the discussions we've had 48:42 and some of the people that we were wanting to work with. 48:46 You know, the enemy very angry. 48:50 Very. 48:52 I know we have another clip to play 48:54 and I've taken up a lot of time but... 48:56 Oh, we wanted you to... 48:58 I have really wanted to tell this story. 49:01 And our viewers will really be blessed by it. 49:04 Oh, praise the Lord. Really be blessed by it. 49:06 Setup the second clip for us. 49:08 Certainly. Let see what we have here. 49:10 John. John. 49:11 So we discussed earlier... 49:15 As I get old and crusty I really... 49:22 Hey, watch it not everybody old is crusty. 49:25 You're immune to the crust. 49:29 But, you know, I look at these stories in the Bible 49:32 and I begin to be introspective. 49:36 You know, you imagine as a person. 49:40 These pillars of the Bible, 49:42 these men and women in the Bible 49:44 what it must have been? 49:45 I try to put myself, you know, 49:47 if I may in their place and there's John. 49:50 You know, Pastor Wright talks about this so eloquently 49:53 John on the Isle of Patmos, John the last, 49:57 John his brother is dead, Peter is gone. 50:02 That crazy guy Paul came out of no where he is gone 50:05 and there he is the last and old man 50:08 Jesus called him, loved, 50:13 beloved he was there at the foot of the cross. 50:15 And I imagined that at this point 50:18 John doesn't think that he will see Jesus again. 50:23 Until the return 50:25 and then there on the Lord's Day 50:26 on the Isle of Patmos, 50:28 he turns around and there He is. 50:32 I am the alpha, the omega. 50:37 And what that meant to him personally 50:40 this last clip just kind of sets that up, 50:44 we began with some things, 50:45 show the other preachers 50:47 but then the backend sets up this moment 50:51 in John's experience on the Isle of Patmos. 50:53 Let's take a look. 51:00 Praise God in His Holy Word, has given us some alarms. 51:04 Alarms to help us wake up from spiritual slumber 51:07 because friends we have a celestial flight to catch, 51:11 a flight from earth to heaven. 51:14 Imagine that it tells here that Michael stands up 51:18 when the death who creates pass he says, "That's it." 51:21 And after he stands up to what happens, 51:24 to time of trouble such as never was. 51:27 And I can imagine approaching the pearly gates with Jesus 51:30 and all this numberless hosts behind Him. 51:33 And over got the 144,000 51:35 but then there's the number that no man number 51:38 and they're coming toward the gates. 51:43 This is the John, 51:46 the last living apostle 51:50 was given the Revelation of Jesus Christ. 51:56 He's old, 51:58 he's tired, 52:02 he's alone. 53:39 So powerful. 53:40 You know, I just know that 53:43 you're going to love this documentary. 53:46 I don't know, can we call a documentary? 53:48 What do we call it? 53:50 Docudrama you invented that term for us sometime ago. 53:52 It's a kind of a docudrama. Yes, ma'am. 53:55 Yeah. It's so powerful. Praise the Lord. 53:58 And now you know the story behind all of this and, I mean, 54:04 you know that it's got to be 54:06 something really, really special 54:08 because the enemy was trying to stop it 54:10 and he can't stop it. 54:12 He can't, it's unstoppable. 54:14 What do you want the viewers to take away 54:17 from Daniel and the Revelation? 54:20 What do you want them to know in about a minute? 54:22 We have this very interesting these two sides of the coin, 54:27 on one side people are searching, 54:31 people are looking for truth. 54:33 It's not just church folk going to see what's going on. 54:35 On the other side as you're discussing earlier 54:37 it seems to have fallen out of fashion, 54:40 the doctrine, the prophecy, 54:42 and as one person said 54:43 we only like to discuss social injustice. 54:46 And I, you know, as an African-American 54:48 can appreciate social injustice 54:50 but we can never say that prophecy 54:53 is going out of style. 54:54 Absolutely. 54:55 We must particularly now return to the word. 54:58 I'm hoping that what this does it spurs, 55:01 it sparks an interest in the word 55:05 and that people will return. 55:06 Yes, ma'am. 55:07 And so we get it on Dare to Dream. 55:09 Of course. Oh, I can't wait. 55:12 So what we'll do is we'll let you know 55:14 when it's going to air 55:15 because we just have to do some tweaks on it. 55:19 And you're in postproduction right now. 55:21 Yes. 55:22 What stage are you in right now? 55:23 Yes, so with the segment 55:25 that you're going to be showing first 55:26 was cleaning up some audio, 55:28 audio was our Achilles heel, you know. 55:30 So we don't have the same wonderful equipment 55:32 that I'm seeing here 55:34 so it takes us a little longer to do that 55:36 and get some releases taken care of 55:38 and then we can do the thing. 55:41 Oh, that's gonna be incredible. 55:43 We're gonna air it multiple times. 55:45 Oh, praise the Lord. 55:46 Lord willing on the Dare to Dream 55:48 because we want people to know 55:50 about the end of time as Danny always say 55:53 we read the back of the book, 55:54 we know that we're victorious through Jesus Christ. 55:57 So that's really important 55:59 but it's so good to see 56:01 what happens up to that point we know that. 56:04 If we have the visual aids, we have the word first, 56:08 we have visual aids, 56:09 it can really help people to understand 56:12 what's in Daniel and Revelation. 56:14 So I'm excited. 56:16 Oh, I am too and honored 56:18 that you all would let me go on and tell my story. 56:21 Thank you so much. 56:23 I could not believe the story, 56:26 I mean, all of the things that, the Daniel effect. 56:29 I mean, that is really a good term for it. 56:31 Yes, ma'am. 56:33 Because everyone met with opposition. 56:35 Yes, ma'am. 56:36 And we're not just talking about little minor things, 56:38 we're talking about life threatening, 56:41 life altering situations. 56:44 You and your child too. Yes, ma'am 56:47 And then Pastor Mendinghall, Pastor Neri, 56:49 everybody that was involved. 56:51 All of them. Yes, ma'am. 56:53 That's incredible. 56:54 It's an all in just that little time 56:56 since I was here last year. 56:58 Yes, yes. Indeed. 57:01 But now tell us in like 30 seconds or so 57:03 how you're doing now? 57:06 Physically. 57:07 So I had lost like 60, 70 pounds or just all. 57:11 I began lifting weights again about a year ago. 57:14 I put on 40 pounds muscle, 57:17 I'm bench pressing like 300 pounds, 57:19 and this is usually a locker room talk. 57:20 But I'm just talking about what God can do. 57:22 Yes. 57:23 Before I couldn't open a jar and I walk into a room 57:26 and people who knew how far down I had been 57:29 they see how God can restore. 57:32 So I'm doing well, I still have arthritis 57:35 but, God is in control. 57:37 God is so good. 57:38 Thank you so much for being with us. 57:40 It's been a blessing. 57:42 Thank you, Jay... Gracious. 57:44 For being my co-host, some wonderful co-host. 57:48 Don't forget that the Lord's got you 57:51 and he's got a plan for you and he can change everything. 57:56 Well, we've reached the end of another program 57:58 thank you for joining us. 58:00 Join us next time because, you know, what? 58:02 It just wouldn't be the same without you. |
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