Urban Report

Ministry Update

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Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Dr. Kim Nowlin, Erin Nowlin

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00:01 Stay tuned to get a sneak peek into what Dr. Kim's been up to.
00:05 My name is Yvonne Lewis
00:06 and you're watching Urban Report.
00:35 Hello, and welcome to Urban Report.
00:37 As you know, our host from Making It Work,
00:40 who are Dr. Kim Logan Nowlin and her husband Arthur Nowlin.
00:44 Arthur is now resting in Jesus,
00:47 but Dr Kim is still working hard.
00:50 She's the host of Dare to Dream's newest program,
00:53 Live to be Well.
00:55 I had a chance to visit with her in Detroit,
00:57 where the program is produced.
00:59 Take a look.
01:02 What a blessing it is for me to be sitting here
01:06 on the set of Live to be Well.
01:08 It's kind of bittersweet,
01:10 because the last time I was here,
01:13 Jason and I and our crew
01:16 were taping Dr. Kim and Arthur Nowlin,
01:20 and since then our dear Arthur has passed away.
01:23 But Dr. Kim is continuing and she is hosting
01:26 a new program on the Dare to Dream network
01:30 called Live to be Well.
01:31 And I'm super excited and I'm super excited
01:34 to have you sitting in that chair.
01:36 Yes. Yes, we are.
01:38 Hi, Erin. Hello.
01:41 Dr Kim. Yes.
01:42 You and Erin have been on quite a journey.
01:46 Yes.
01:49 And I want to talk to both of you
01:50 about how Arthur's death has impacted you.
01:56 I want to start with Erin.
01:57 Erin, I haven't ever had a conversation with you really.
02:02 And I'm interested in finding out
02:05 how have you been doing since your dad's passing.
02:09 Well, I've been coping in different ways.
02:13 I have my friends, really helps a lot, you know,
02:16 just going out with them,
02:19 and have them support me in different ways
02:22 like to take my mind off of things but I've been,
02:25 I've been good to be honest with you.
02:28 It's something like
02:30 what I noticed the fact when people say,
02:32 "I think about a person every day
02:34 that is passed away,"
02:36 that actually is very true like,
02:38 you go in the room and you don't see them
02:40 or like you want to do something,
02:42 and they're not there, they can't take you anywhere.
02:46 You get the feeling like, "oh, okay,
02:48 I see what you mean by that."
02:50 It's something that kind of hits you in waves, right?
02:53 So you might be doing okay for a minute
02:56 and then something will remind you of that person
03:00 or something happens and then you're like,
03:02 "Oh, wow, you know, my dad's not here."
03:05 But we just praise God for the resurrection, right?
03:08 Amen.
03:09 Because we know this is just a temporary situation.
03:11 That's right. That's right.
03:13 What grade are you in?
03:14 I'm going to be a senior.
03:16 Oh! Yes.
03:17 In a while. Wow.
03:19 And you have, you know,
03:21 you are very much like your mom and dad.
03:23 Now your mom is like Renaissance woman, I mean,
03:26 she got so much going on which makes your head spin.
03:29 But you have another kind of career on the side.
03:33 Tell us about some of the things that you do.
03:36 I act and do modeling,
03:40 some in film, some in theaters,
03:43 so that's a lot of things that I do in music.
03:47 I want to Major in filming, in theater, and minor in music,
03:53 studio engineer producing and different things like that.
03:57 We'll see which college.
03:59 So you love the arts? Yes. Performing arts.
04:02 And you've been doing some acting and...
04:05 Yes.
04:07 Do you do Christian plays and that kind of thing?
04:10 I do it all.
04:11 Christian plays, Christian commercials,
04:15 and when I was away at school last semester,
04:18 I did a lot of Christian plays
04:20 because it was a Seventh-day Adventist school.
04:22 Good, good.
04:24 One of the things that you might want to keep in mind
04:26 because I used to be in the arts for many years,
04:29 and one of the things you want to keep in mind
04:31 is it's very seductive, it will tend to pull you away,
04:37 if you don't hold on to Jesus.
04:39 So it's very tempting but you have to hold on
04:43 because you can just find yourself
04:46 just doing little compromises here and there,
04:49 and before you know it, you're all the way over here,
04:53 when, you know,
04:54 you should've stayed on that straight end and now so.
04:57 So just the word from somebody who's been there,
04:59 just be careful, be careful.
05:02 Don't let the enemy pull you out.
05:05 Because I think you're very gifted like your mom.
05:09 Dr. Kim? Yes, ma'am
05:11 What have you been doing?
05:13 This and just trying to find that balance and adjustment
05:19 since I was last with you,
05:20 we did the memorial program for Arthur,
05:23 making sure I take good care of the girls
05:27 and maintaining that our older daughter Micah
05:31 and who lives in Huntsville, Alabama.
05:33 Who is also in, you know, television broadcast
05:36 and radio.
05:37 So it's like, they're all following that first career
05:40 that I've had and now back to with Dare to Dream.
05:45 I've done a lot of fashion, you know,
05:47 I've my own fashion line out.
05:49 And yes, my own this is one of my designs,
05:53 so I have been doing a lot of online businesses,
05:58 the counseling clinic we have maintained,
06:00 the counseling clinics.
06:02 That's very important.
06:03 That you and your husband, yeah, together...
06:04 Yes, yes.
06:06 You know, I started it before I met Arthur.
06:07 He joined me and 26 years together
06:11 we were in practice right here, you know, in this office.
06:15 So when I come here every day, I go right past his office.
06:19 And if there, I've not really changed,
06:23 I've added I put up more plaques,
06:25 more things to remember, when people come they know
06:29 and I want people to know and people miss him,
06:32 his clients, people who call, who didn't know,
06:36 who want to meet with him again.
06:38 So there's still people who didn't know?
06:40 Oh, they still don't know.
06:42 And they call and they want to meet with him.
06:45 And Karen has said, our administrator,
06:47 "I'm so sorry to tell you that he's passed away."
06:50 So a lot of our couples,
06:51 we haven't seen in two or three years
06:54 who want to come back for a checkup therapy,
06:56 I call it checkup therapy.
06:57 Yes.
06:58 They're like, "What?"
07:00 They didn't know.
07:01 So I'm still mailing out programs and information
07:06 and letting them know and...
07:09 Because he touched so many lives
07:11 and he's still touching our lives.
07:13 I love having Erin home
07:14 because I'm not in the home alone
07:17 and but she's on our way out...
07:19 Did you say something?
07:20 No.
07:22 I do.
07:23 You know, she is getting reacquainted with her chores
07:26 and responsibility because that's very important.
07:29 You do chores. Yes.
07:31 What are your chores, Erin?
07:32 The whole upstairs
07:34 whatever she finds and searches for to clean.
07:38 Who does that remind you of?
07:39 Oh, my God, she reminds of her daddy's so much.
07:42 It's amazing. Yes.
07:44 So you have all of upstairs?
07:46 Basically, all of upstairs.
07:50 Sometimes, the...
07:51 Vacuuming the family room
07:53 or most of time vacuuming the family room,
07:55 in the kitchen, sweep the kitchen,
07:57 and do the dishes.
08:00 How many dishes? How many...
08:02 Because we use paperware. Yeah.
08:04 Okay, you know, it's just that much.
08:07 We just use paper plates,
08:08 we still use Tupperware and forks
08:10 and messes over cups
08:14 and just different things like that.
08:16 It's just whatever she finds for me to clean.
08:19 Why do you think chores are important?
08:21 I mean, it just helps you organize
08:24 but sometimes you have to do chores every day.
08:27 As a teenager, I'm supposed to do the chores,
08:29 I mean, you don't need to do chores every day.
08:32 Like if you make your bed, okay, yes, you make your bed.
08:36 Clean the bathroom,
08:37 you don't need to clean the bathroom every day.
08:39 Like you don't have to do that
08:41 or you don't have to vacuum the hallway every day.
08:44 It's just her thing... I like to give everybody...
08:46 What do you think Dr. Kim?
08:48 I feel like this
08:50 that if you use it, you need to clean it.
08:52 Every day.
08:53 You know, the bowls need to be clean.
08:55 You need...
08:57 Excuse me, you made me laugh.
09:00 And we had an incident last night
09:02 and I said, "Did you vacuum?"
09:04 But when I came back, I saw certain things
09:06 still where I'd left them.
09:07 I've purposely.
09:09 Who purposely leave things on the floor?
09:10 She's making sure you do your chore.
09:12 Right. Like that's just extra work.
09:14 I left little...
09:15 I said, "I want to see." Who wants to do that?
09:17 So I said, "Did you vacuum?" So I was furious.
09:20 So she came upstairs and I said, "Erin,
09:21 did you move the rugs out of the hall area?"
09:25 And I moved the rugs, and I said,
09:26 "You didn't vacuum."
09:28 "But Mom, I did move the rugs."
09:29 And I said, "Can we start again?"
09:31 Because I want her to be proficient, when she goes...
09:34 She's been to boarding school but she had a single room.
09:39 She lived alone. And I kept it clean.
09:41 And she kept the clean room, checks.
09:42 But as she went from home being in her own room,
09:45 boarding school was not going to be like that.
09:48 Now she's going to another school,
09:50 Oakwood Academy,
09:52 she'll be living with her sister,
09:54 she got the whole of upstairs.
09:55 So she still, like, living alone.
09:57 Yes. And I keep it clean.
10:00 And I kept it clean at boarding school.
10:01 I could perfect...
10:03 But I never get issue with your room check.
10:06 Exactly.
10:07 And she always said, when I was telling she was like,
10:08 "If you ever go to boarding school,
10:10 I don't know how you're going to keep your room clean."
10:11 I mean, the first week when I got there and I got a...
10:13 They would say typically
10:15 if I keep my room clean, I said,
10:16 "You always said I wouldn't keep my room clean,
10:18 this is what."
10:19 And then like this is what happened.
10:21 And then like I never got, you know,
10:23 how they have a boarding, I mean, a room check score.
10:27 I never got below eight like... Out of ten?
10:30 Out of ten. Okay.
10:32 And I probably got it eight because
10:34 I didn't take the trash out that day.
10:36 But, you know, like or I probably got an eight
10:38 because I didn't put skip on the day
10:41 I could skip room check.
10:43 I mean, my room was still clean but, you know,
10:44 just little things.
10:47 Well, now let me just tell you just...
10:48 Okay, please.
10:50 Like in defense of your mom. Yes.
10:52 She's helping you. That's right.
10:54 One of the things that I've seen with adults
10:57 who are at the top of their field
11:00 is that they had parents that had them do chores.
11:03 Their parents that had them do things
11:06 with the standard of excellence.
11:08 So that they didn't, now it's a pain,
11:11 when you're a teenager, it's a big pain.
11:13 It is a pain. It is. It is.
11:15 But you'll be so happy when you grow up
11:18 if the Lord hasn't come back by then
11:20 because you'll be good at whatever you do.
11:24 That's right.
11:25 At whatever you do, those same skills,
11:28 that same skill set generalizes to life.
11:31 That's right.
11:33 And you're going to be good at what you do.
11:35 My mother was hard on me.
11:36 Dad was a little bit laid back. She's like, oh whatever.
11:38 I mean, my father was really laid back.
11:40 And I see what he would do when he, like,
11:44 whenever my mom was like, she's like, "Arthur,
11:45 you didn't clean this or do this."
11:47 You know, if you just look at her sometimes
11:49 and then I was like, I would understand it.
11:53 But now I really see her like, "Wow."
11:56 Like I see what my dad, I think, I would,
11:58 I can tell what my dad was thinking
12:00 when she would say things like that.
12:02 "Arthur, you didn't do this or how come this is still here."
12:04 And he will just look at her, I was like,
12:06 and I didn't understand I'm like...
12:08 I understand now. Okay.
12:10 My opinion is if you use a spoon,
12:12 you're standing right there, you're laying it in the sink,
12:14 why not wash it?
12:16 You used Tupperware yesterday,
12:17 it's in the sink, you didn't wash it.
12:18 I did wash it.
12:20 No, you didn't. It was on the side.
12:21 What this is, this is so interesting
12:23 because this is Mother-Daughter teenage stuff.
12:27 This is what most mothers with teens go through.
12:30 So this is nothing unusual. I'll tell you right up.
12:34 But look how her mouth is...
12:35 But your mom is really helping you
12:37 to be a really strong woman of God.
12:42 Because you don't see... Excellent.
12:44 You don't see the standards I run in my office.
12:46 The standards of how hands are praise,
12:48 the standards of being at office in a shirt,
12:50 those are the same standards my mother and father would use
12:53 when I would clean, organize, make obey it.
12:56 Now I'm not gonna say something about bad this morning,
12:58 you know, because it wasn't all the way down
13:00 to the edge of where...
13:02 Like those type of things.
13:03 I like it to the edge. It's not even.
13:04 Okay. Even.
13:06 You know...
13:07 So are you a little obsessive? Yes.
13:09 Yes. I am a compulsive cleaner.
13:11 A litte OCD?
13:12 I am. A little.
13:13 Oh, it's a lot. Okay.
13:15 Yesterday, she wanted the trash can
13:16 like the trash can knot, it was, it was on a side,
13:21 she want it in the back.
13:22 She had me go through every room
13:24 to fix the trash can.
13:26 Because, you know, you don't want the trash
13:27 can knot looking forward when you tie the bag on,
13:30 I have those clear bags.
13:31 They just think it's trash you have thrown in something...
13:32 No, but I can see the bag knot, I want it back to the wall.
13:35 I don't want it...
13:37 Because it just complicates the decorum of my bathroom.
13:41 When I look down and see that trash bag...
13:44 See those are type of things my father will look at...
13:48 You know, when it's funny because when your dad
13:50 and your mom work co-hosting making it well,
13:54 that was kind of, making it worse,
13:56 I'm combining these two.
13:59 I'm combining the new one and the old one,
14:01 making it work.
14:02 When they were co-hosting that program,
14:05 they would have a little banter
14:07 kind of similar to what's going on here.
14:09 And it was, it was just really, really fun.
14:12 But let's talk a bit, Dr. Kim, about Live to be Well.
14:16 And what is that program going to do?
14:19 How is it different besides the obvious
14:22 the absence of Arthur,
14:23 but how is it different from Making It Work?
14:26 Well, Making It Work
14:28 really focused on relationships,
14:30 the dynamics of family, engaging
14:34 and, how Arthur and I would work together
14:38 to make sure that the couples looked at different tools
14:42 and how they were going to be able to transition
14:45 and maintain their marriage or those who are engaged
14:48 where we really focused in on couples
14:50 and their relationship.
14:52 Live to be Well will encompass everything
14:55 from relationships to professions,
14:58 working with teens, purities,
15:02 solvency, cooking, finances.
15:05 We want people to live to be well
15:08 to overall look at their lives and say,
15:10 "How can I raise the standards?
15:12 How can I look at my value system?
15:14 How can I look at how I associate myself
15:18 with the dynamics of my society?
15:21 And then how and what role do I play in that?"
15:24 So we want Live to be Well to be real,
15:26 which everyone like, "Wow, she has teenagers,
15:30 she has her own daughter on the program, she has..."
15:33 We had a seven year old that's something
15:36 Making It Work did not feature.
15:38 So we want to encompass everyone,
15:40 so everyone can identify with the program.
15:42 So you're really looking holistically at life.
15:47 And saying these are the areas of life
15:50 that if we can really work through these areas,
15:55 we can be well.
15:57 It's kind of a holistic view. Oh, yes.
15:58 So you talk about finance
15:59 and what are some of the topics that you talk about.
16:02 We're talking about finances, inner city finances, you know,
16:06 how our communities are being bombarded
16:09 with different avenues of check cashing
16:12 on every street,
16:14 they're from Ryan Mack talked about
16:18 living from paycheck to Tuesday.
16:20 So pay check is on Friday, you broke on Tuesday.
16:23 I love that that just really penetrated my soul.
16:27 And you had Ryan Mack who is the host of Dollars
16:30 and Sense on Dare to Dream, you know, that's awesome.
16:33 And he's a Detroiter. Yes.
16:35 And you're a Detroiter. Yes.
16:36 So that would sound great. So it's kind of a blessing.
16:39 Looking at how we need to look at pastoral care
16:42 in our communities.
16:44 We're looking at how God restored life,
16:49 we're looking at relationships with in teenagers
16:53 and young adults being Seventh Day Adventist
16:56 and being committed, not losing sight,
17:01 not going to the left to the right,
17:02 but staying focused and how to maintain.
17:05 We're looking at how we can help
17:07 our young people today stay on track with God.
17:10 So we're looking at a lot of different avenues,
17:12 we're looking at healthy eating with Dr. Patricia Ferguson on
17:17 my former OB/GYN, talking about different health issues
17:21 and it's all people we need to be healthy
17:24 in what we need to do
17:25 and we tend to wait till it's too late,
17:27 and we need to go now.
17:30 Not too long ago, I was ill
17:32 and I just kept putting it off, putting it off
17:35 and that program really hit home with me.
17:38 We must take care of our bodies.
17:40 So we're just talking about some of everything.
17:42 Oh, it's going to be a wonderful program.
17:46 It's exciting to see
17:48 how God is continuing to use you.
17:50 Yes.
17:52 What made you decide to go on
17:54 on your own without Arthur co-hosting?
17:57 Well, at first I didn't want to.
17:59 I really didn't.
18:02 We've been by each other side for so long with that,
18:05 you know, we were glued to each other.
18:08 And to go on without him just didn't feel right.
18:11 And then I prayed to the Lord
18:14 and my marketing director of my company
18:18 said to me, "You know, you need to be doing something
18:20 on social network."
18:22 And I was like, "No, I'm done with all of that."
18:24 "No, we need to do something to look at overall living."
18:29 And he and I were talking and we came with the idea
18:32 of Live to be Well, didn't want to do that either,
18:35 "Just leave me alone, let me just..."
18:38 You know, I was going to close the office.
18:40 I really didn't want to do that.
18:42 I didn't want to do anything.
18:43 You know, that's so much depression.
18:45 But I need to find a new direction
18:47 that everywhere I went, you know, wasn't a memory,
18:51 not that I was trying to forget him
18:53 but I needed some healing time.
18:55 Yes.
18:57 What I found out for me getting right back on the boat
19:00 was healing me.
19:02 And so Live to be Well was birth.
19:05 And then I called you with an idea.
19:08 I want to continue the program.
19:10 And we talked about having another co-host
19:13 and I said, "No, maybe guest co-host in the future
19:17 but let's go forward with Live to be Well."
19:20 And that's how it was birthed.
19:22 And I know Arthur, excuse me, would, excuse me,
19:27 would want me...
19:29 I'm getting a little emotional. Yeah.
19:30 Would want me to go forth.
19:34 And then be an example for my children
19:37 that difficulties will rise, we're going to have tragedy,
19:42 but we're more than overcomers and Christ Jesus,
19:45 we're more than conquerors.
19:46 And for them to see me go forth maintaining myself,
19:51 not letting myself go two ways, keeping the business going,
19:55 helping others, you know...
19:59 you know, who can God use?
20:01 Use me Lord, not knowing it was going to just
20:04 keep going and keep going and now I'm back to
20:07 just speaking engagements,
20:08 back to starting my clothing line,
20:11 Live to be Well, the business, the Ministry of the counseling,
20:15 clinic is more vibrant than ever.
20:19 And so I'm going forth because God is with me.
20:23 Praise the Lord for that. We praise the Lord for that.
20:25 What would you say have been the greatest challenges to you
20:31 since deciding to go on, you know,
20:35 what would you say have been the biggest obstacles?
20:43 Feeling my loyalty to God
20:47 being, not angry at God for taking my husband
20:51 putting him to sleep,
20:52 but at the same time, I got to honor you.
20:56 So it was a mixed emotion
21:01 to deal with my feelings with God
21:05 and allow myself to trust him,
21:09 and then to continue to serve him
21:11 because he gave me these talents and gifts.
21:14 And as a little girl, I had severe stuttering.
21:17 I was a severe stutterer.
21:18 And I am ADHD,
21:21 I went through special needs classes
21:23 from the sixth grade all the way through
21:25 graduate school having tutors.
21:28 But I said, "God, you didn't bring me this far
21:31 to leave me."
21:32 And so therefore, I must get up.
21:34 And I know me.
21:35 If I am not busy,
21:39 I can't keep still, I can't be still,
21:41 I got to be finding things for people to do,
21:44 and, I saw that.
21:46 And trying to help people find their niche,
21:50 helping people to understand.
21:51 And do you know since Arthur's passing,
21:55 more people have been calling for Christian counseling.
22:00 So I know and every time I get ready to close my doors,
22:03 the phone would ring.
22:05 And I said, "It's not my time. It's not my time."
22:07 And then when you said, "Yes."
22:10 Then I said, "It's not my time to end this."
22:13 Absolutely.
22:14 So I will continue to go forth.
22:15 So that was one of the largest challenges
22:20 allowing God to heal me and I'm still healing
22:24 and you can't put a time frame on this.
22:26 That's right.
22:27 Working with my children, being mom,
22:30 and being a single mom that is a challenge,
22:33 because Arthur was laid back, it was quiet,
22:36 "Leave the baby alone.
22:39 Let the baby... She can do it later.
22:42 Come on, Erin, we're out of here."
22:44 Exactly. Exactly.
22:45 He would, "Why are you fussing?
22:48 Is it really that big a deal?"
22:49 He would be laying in bed,
22:51 he would get up and go downstairs
22:53 and watch they want fork because I couldn't sleep.
22:55 He said, "You have issues." That's what he used to say.
22:57 "You got issues."
22:59 But we worked.
23:01 We made it work. You did.
23:02 Because we were our balance.
23:04 And I remember explaining to Arthur
23:07 why I was so...
23:09 I was OCD.
23:11 My father was very organized and clean, my mom too,
23:17 but when my parents got divorced,
23:19 I would clean, clean, clean, hoping that would be,
23:22 my dad would come home.
23:24 I said, "Daddy, I've cleaned this daddy,
23:25 I did this the way you like it.
23:27 Will you come home?"
23:28 He said, "No baby, I can't come home."
23:31 And so I became that force in the house
23:34 always keeping things clean and organized.
23:36 I had three siblings but my mom always called on me
23:39 because my father trained me to mow the lawn,
23:42 rake, organize, do everything.
23:45 He alphabetized all things in the cabinet.
23:48 So he was OCD, was your dad also OCD?
23:51 Yes, he was OCD. He was very OCD.
23:54 But out of all the children, I really pulled to him.
23:58 And then when my mom,
23:59 my mom got depressed after divorce,
24:01 and I started doing everything in the house.
24:04 I was the oldest daughter, but not the oldest sibling,
24:08 but I did when I told her brothers
24:10 but I did everything in and out.
24:12 So that transition to my life even in boarding school,
24:15 I cleaned the rooms in boarding school for,
24:17 you know, they paid me.
24:19 Because these girls did not clean their rooms,
24:21 out in the dorm at Oakwood.
24:23 I was like, "Really? Really?
24:26 This is how you organize your closet."
24:28 So people would pay me and I made lots of money.
24:30 I made my tuition.
24:31 Wow! Yes.
24:33 Organizing their rooms for room check
24:35 because they would get fined $25.
24:37 See that is...
24:40 That's making lemonade out of lemons.
24:41 That's right.
24:43 Well, if you're OCD, you put that really to good use
24:47 and made your tuition.
24:48 I made my tuition.
24:50 Yes, I did, I made of whoever...
24:51 I didn't make working in the cafe,
24:53 I was a hostess in the cafe, you know, greeting everyone,
24:56 I was the greeter.
24:57 But I still needed extra money.
24:59 You know, what I see with you, Dr. Kim, is that...
25:08 You practice what you preach.
25:09 In that, you're dealing with life from a biblical place
25:14 and you're taking bad situations
25:17 and trying to make something good come of it.
25:20 And it is a Biblical concept
25:25 but a lot of people don't do that.
25:27 Yes.
25:28 What about you, Erin, in one minute,
25:31 what would you tell young people
25:33 who are dealing with grief?
25:35 What would you tell them is the best way to get through?
25:40 I would say, move to God
25:44 and your siblings and whoever parent,
25:48 whatever parent you have with you,
25:50 and friends, bunch of friends,
25:53 not necessarily distractions but supporters to help you
25:58 get through whatever process you're in, basically.
26:03 So you get your support system from God
26:06 and from your friends and from your parent.
26:08 Yes. That's good.
26:10 And my siblings. Yeah.
26:12 Yes. Yeah.
26:13 Dr. Kim, do you have a quick closing thought?
26:15 I just want to say to everyone pace yourself
26:18 and pour into your children, love them.
26:21 I'm going to try to find a little bit more balance
26:24 in myself.
26:25 I'm in counseling and will be going on counseling
26:29 because I want her to understand
26:31 the importance of her healing and being able to talk freely.
26:36 So just pace yourself, be open, listen,
26:39 and be able to move forward in Jesus Christ.
26:44 Thank you.
26:45 Thank you so much for being so transparent.
26:47 You know, you really, kind of, gave us a little look
26:51 into the dynamic between you, but it's real.
26:55 It's real.
26:56 And this program Live to be Well is real.
26:59 So make sure you tune in. God bless.
27:05 Dr. Kim and Erin, we're so delightful.
27:08 It's so nice to see Dr. Kim in her own environment
27:12 and we got to meet Erin today.
27:15 What a blessing. What a legacy.
27:18 Arthur Nowlin left for his family
27:21 and for the viewers.
27:22 We're so thankful that we had him
27:24 for the time that we did.
27:26 And we're so thankful that Dr. Kim is pressing forward,
27:29 moving on continuing to host and to do therapy
27:35 and to just be a blessing.
27:36 She's a speaker everywhere.
27:38 She's just a blessing. So we're really thankful.
27:41 Be sure to tune in to Live to be Well.
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27:58 Keep Dr. Kim in your prayers as she and her family
28:01 continue to move forward.
28:02 Thanks for tuning in.
28:04 Join us next time
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